1 00:00:00 --> 00:00:01 2 00:00:01 --> 00:00:04 The following content is provided by MIT OpenCourseWare 3 00:00:04 --> 00:00:06 under a Creative Commons license. 4 00:00:06 --> 00:00:09 Additional information about our license and MIT 5 00:00:09 --> 00:00:16 OpenCourseWare in general is available at ocw.mit.edu. 6 00:00:16 --> 00:00:17 PROFESSOR: There's no new handout today. 7 00:00:17 --> 00:00:18 We're working off the old handout. 8 00:00:18 --> 00:00:20 If you don't have the old handout you'll probably 9 00:00:20 --> 00:00:22 survive without it. 10 00:00:22 --> 00:00:24 11 00:00:24 --> 00:00:32 The last thing to say before I say something is that between 12 00:00:32 --> 00:00:35 this morning and this afternoon I changed the end 13 00:00:35 --> 00:00:36 of the lecture. 14 00:00:36 --> 00:00:40 I decided I had a new idea and we will discover whether it 15 00:00:40 --> 00:00:43 turns out to be a new idea when I hear it coming 16 00:00:43 --> 00:00:44 out of my mouth. 17 00:00:44 --> 00:00:49 But if it slightly confuses the handout I'm sorry, it's the 18 00:00:49 --> 00:00:52 product of actual thought. 19 00:00:52 --> 00:00:56 All right, it is my belief, somebody remind me if I'm wrong 20 00:00:56 --> 00:01:01 that we had gotten to the incidence part of this story 21 00:01:01 --> 00:01:04 about coercive sexual behavior and we had not gotten 22 00:01:04 --> 00:01:05 to the etyology part. 23 00:01:05 --> 00:01:08 Does that sound about right to people? 24 00:01:08 --> 00:01:09 Yep, OK. 25 00:01:09 --> 00:01:12 26 00:01:12 --> 00:01:16 Let me see then. 27 00:01:16 --> 00:01:23 What I want to do is to talk about some risk factors then 28 00:01:23 --> 00:01:27 and rather like the eating disorders story, risk 29 00:01:27 --> 00:01:28 factors are risk factors. 30 00:01:28 --> 00:01:31 31 00:01:31 --> 00:01:36 They're not by themselves causative. 32 00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 And again, most of this is coming off of survey data. 33 00:01:39 --> 00:01:45 So for example, one of the things that turns out to be a 34 00:01:45 --> 00:01:53 risk factor for some sort of coercive relations taking 35 00:01:53 --> 00:01:57 place is who pays for dinner. 36 00:01:57 --> 00:02:04 And this is not because guys who pay for dinner are rapists, 37 00:02:04 --> 00:02:10 it's because some small fraction of folks who pay for 38 00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 dinner somehow think they paid for something else perhaps. 39 00:02:13 --> 00:02:17 It's not clear what the actual causality is, but if you go and 40 00:02:17 --> 00:02:24 take some giant body of data and you ask, what's correlated 41 00:02:24 --> 00:02:30 with something that looks like date rape as the end product? 42 00:02:30 --> 00:02:33 One of the correlated factors turns out to be things 43 00:02:33 --> 00:02:37 like, who pays? 44 00:02:37 --> 00:02:40 A similarly, not terribly powerful correlation is found 45 00:02:40 --> 00:02:45 with whose car it is or whose room it is or things like-- 46 00:02:45 --> 00:02:47 these are issues of control. 47 00:02:47 --> 00:02:53 That it's more likely that again, as sort of a weak 48 00:02:53 --> 00:02:57 correlative bit of data, his car is more dangerous than 49 00:02:57 --> 00:02:58 her car from that point. 50 00:02:58 --> 00:03:01 Does it mean that everybody with a car is a rapist? 51 00:03:01 --> 00:03:06 No of coure not, doesn't mean anything of the sort. 52 00:03:06 --> 00:03:07 But there's a correlation there. 53 00:03:07 --> 00:03:10 These are smallish effects. 54 00:03:10 --> 00:03:16 If you want a big effect go for alcohol. 55 00:03:16 --> 00:03:20 If you read this literature-- this somewhat depressing 56 00:03:20 --> 00:03:27 literature-- but if you read this literature you find that 57 00:03:27 --> 00:03:34 at least a majority of cases reported seemed to involve 58 00:03:34 --> 00:03:35 consumption of alcohol. 59 00:03:35 --> 00:03:38 Generally, fairly large amounts of alcohol. 60 00:03:38 --> 00:03:41 61 00:03:41 --> 00:03:44 In several of the studies it's anywhere between 50% and 62 00:03:44 --> 00:03:52 75% of cases involve consumption of alcohol. 63 00:03:52 --> 00:03:57 64 00:03:57 --> 00:04:04 This is alarming if it's taken along with the rise in binge 65 00:04:04 --> 00:04:06 drinking on college campuses. 66 00:04:06 --> 00:04:08 That's something that's risen over the last twenty years and 67 00:04:08 --> 00:04:14 if you assume that a big risk factor for coercive sexual 68 00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 relations is alcohol it's not going to be a good thing if 69 00:04:16 --> 00:04:19 there's a lot of binge drinking around. 70 00:04:19 --> 00:04:26 Some of this appears to be, in a sense, deliberate where some 71 00:04:26 --> 00:04:31 guys pressure some women to drink too much in the 72 00:04:31 --> 00:04:35 interests of promoting sexual activity of some variety. 73 00:04:35 --> 00:04:42 But mostly, this is a case of what Floyd Alexander-- 74 00:04:42 --> 00:04:42 is it Floyd or Lloyd? 75 00:04:42 --> 00:04:43 I can't remember. 76 00:04:43 --> 00:04:45 It says on the handout, right? 77 00:04:45 --> 00:04:46 AUDIENCE: Floyd. 78 00:04:46 --> 00:04:46 PROFESSOR: Floyd. 79 00:04:46 --> 00:04:47 Where'd he go? 80 00:04:47 --> 00:04:48 Franz. 81 00:04:48 --> 00:04:50 Well, it's neither Floyd nor Lloyd. 82 00:04:50 --> 00:04:55 No, Lloyd Alexander-- that's a lovely blend. 83 00:04:55 --> 00:05:01 Lloyd Alexander is an author of young adult fantasy novels, 84 00:05:01 --> 00:05:04 which some of you may have read. 85 00:05:04 --> 00:05:08 Franz Alexander is the American Freudian. 86 00:05:08 --> 00:05:11 So if you put Franz and Lloyd together apparently you get 87 00:05:11 --> 00:05:13 Floyd Alexander, who's nobody. 88 00:05:13 --> 00:05:18 But Franz Alexander, this early American Freudian, had the 89 00:05:18 --> 00:05:22 felicitous line that the superego is soluble in alcohol. 90 00:05:22 --> 00:05:25 91 00:05:25 --> 00:05:30 We might be more inclined today to look at the neuroimaging 92 00:05:30 --> 00:05:34 data that says "Oh look, here's this chunk of the frontal lobe. 93 00:05:34 --> 00:05:37 It seems to monitor errors. 94 00:05:37 --> 00:05:41 Oh look, here's this chunk of the frontal lobe on alcohol. 95 00:05:41 --> 00:05:47 Wow, it's really suppressed." Alcohol has an inhibitory 96 00:05:47 --> 00:05:48 effect on the nervous system. 97 00:05:48 --> 00:05:51 It has a particularly strong inhibitory effect on the chunk 98 00:05:51 --> 00:05:56 of the brain that, to the best of our knowledge, is there for 99 00:05:56 --> 00:05:57 doing things like error monitoring. 100 00:05:57 --> 00:06:02 If your error monitoring device is off all sorts 101 00:06:02 --> 00:06:04 of stupid things happen. 102 00:06:04 --> 00:06:08 If you're error monitoring is off in the context of sexual 103 00:06:08 --> 00:06:12 activity all sorts of stupid sexual activity sorts 104 00:06:12 --> 00:06:14 of things happen. 105 00:06:14 --> 00:06:19 That looks to be the most likely path for the 106 00:06:19 --> 00:06:20 effects of alcohol. 107 00:06:20 --> 00:06:26 It's simply makes people do stupid things. 108 00:06:26 --> 00:06:28 Both the man and the woman. 109 00:06:28 --> 00:06:31 It's an equal opportunity stupidifier. 110 00:06:31 --> 00:06:34 111 00:06:34 --> 00:06:38 While it is an equal opportunity stupidifier, 112 00:06:38 --> 00:06:48 suppose that she subsequently thinks or-- well, let's suppose 113 00:06:48 --> 00:06:49 this ends up in court. 114 00:06:49 --> 00:06:56 She charges him with date rape in some fashion or other. 115 00:06:56 --> 00:06:59 If everybody's drunk, what's the chance that 116 00:06:59 --> 00:07:00 there's a conviction? 117 00:07:00 --> 00:07:03 118 00:07:03 --> 00:07:05 Grr, That's about right. 119 00:07:05 --> 00:07:11 120 00:07:11 --> 00:07:15 You don't end up getting a conviction typically if there's 121 00:07:15 --> 00:07:21 a lot of alcohol involved and if everybody's drunk, blame 122 00:07:21 --> 00:07:27 tends to migrate to the woman in these sorts of cases. 123 00:07:27 --> 00:07:29 I'm not arguing that that is the right thing or anything, 124 00:07:29 --> 00:07:35 it's just an interesting factoid about responsibility. 125 00:07:35 --> 00:07:38 It turns out, at least in legal settings, to be very difficult 126 00:07:38 --> 00:07:44 to get a conviction for any of this if everybody is 127 00:07:44 --> 00:07:46 apparently drunk. 128 00:07:46 --> 00:07:51 These days in a dubious sort of progress we can improve on 129 00:07:51 --> 00:07:57 alcohol with so called date rape drugs. 130 00:07:57 --> 00:08:01 I put the name of the date rape drug, I mean, one gets sort of 131 00:08:01 --> 00:08:04 labeled that on the handout. 132 00:08:04 --> 00:08:10 But there's a whole class of these out there. 133 00:08:10 --> 00:08:13 The one on the handout in particular is part of a family 134 00:08:13 --> 00:08:18 of tranquilizers that are like Valium, basically. 135 00:08:18 --> 00:08:22 Their effects are to produce disinhibition, relaxation of 136 00:08:22 --> 00:08:27 voluntary muscles, and great amnesia. 137 00:08:27 --> 00:08:29 They produce an anterograde amnesia. 138 00:08:29 --> 00:08:30 Review time. 139 00:08:30 --> 00:08:33 Anterograde amnesia-- that's amnesia from after the 140 00:08:33 --> 00:08:34 point of the insult. 141 00:08:34 --> 00:08:36 So in this case, getting hit over the head is taking the 142 00:08:36 --> 00:08:41 drug so you have an amnesia for events subsequent 143 00:08:41 --> 00:08:43 to taking the drug. 144 00:08:43 --> 00:08:47 So you're disinhibited, stuff happens, and 145 00:08:47 --> 00:08:49 you don't remember. 146 00:08:49 --> 00:08:56 Here there are repeated reports of cases of drinks being spiked 147 00:08:56 --> 00:08:59 with drugs and things of that sort. 148 00:08:59 --> 00:09:02 So there is more of a sense that these may be being used in 149 00:09:02 --> 00:09:07 a deliberate sort of a sense. 150 00:09:07 --> 00:09:10 The alcohol by the way, potentially aids the effects of 151 00:09:10 --> 00:09:11 these sort of tranquilizers. 152 00:09:11 --> 00:09:17 So a mixture of alcohol and one of these drugs is a really 153 00:09:17 --> 00:09:20 potent way to end up doing things that you don't have any 154 00:09:20 --> 00:09:23 intention of doing and would not to do were all of your 155 00:09:23 --> 00:09:27 neurons functioning in a halfway reasonable fashion. 156 00:09:27 --> 00:09:28 Let's see. 157 00:09:28 --> 00:09:33 Other risk factors that I put on the handout. 158 00:09:33 --> 00:09:35 What do you do with time a is a risk factor for time 159 00:09:35 --> 00:09:38 b it says on the handout. 160 00:09:38 --> 00:09:46 That just says what your nervous aunt used to say 161 00:09:46 --> 00:09:48 or something like that. 162 00:09:48 --> 00:09:51 If you're holding hands with somebody the next thing you 163 00:09:51 --> 00:09:53 know you're hugging them. 164 00:09:53 --> 00:09:56 And if you're hugging them the next thing you know-- so each 165 00:09:56 --> 00:10:01 progressive act increases the likelihood of the next act. 166 00:10:01 --> 00:10:03 Again, that's just the sort of thing that you're going to 167 00:10:03 --> 00:10:05 pull out of correlative data. 168 00:10:05 --> 00:10:11 The other biggie in risk factors is miscommunication. 169 00:10:11 --> 00:10:15 Did anybody talk to anybody in the process 170 00:10:15 --> 00:10:19 of this interaction? 171 00:10:19 --> 00:10:23 Just as you get in report after report you get reports of 172 00:10:23 --> 00:10:29 alcohol use, you also hear a recurring litany-- she said, 173 00:10:29 --> 00:10:31 he said sorts of reports. 174 00:10:31 --> 00:10:36 She thought she said this, he thought he heard that. 175 00:10:36 --> 00:10:39 So there's some variety of miscommunication there. 176 00:10:39 --> 00:10:44 This raises the issue of consent. 177 00:10:44 --> 00:10:47 That the notion is-- the foundational notion is that you 178 00:10:47 --> 00:10:51 want all sexual relations to be consenual in some fashion. 179 00:10:51 --> 00:10:55 Most people will sign onto that notion in a pretty 180 00:10:55 --> 00:10:57 straightforward kind of manner. 181 00:10:57 --> 00:11:03 But exactly what consent means is rather difficult 182 00:11:03 --> 00:11:05 to make concrete. 183 00:11:05 --> 00:11:08 If you're in a laboratory situation consent is 184 00:11:08 --> 00:11:10 spectacularly concrete. 185 00:11:10 --> 00:11:12 You have to fill out forms. 186 00:11:12 --> 00:11:18 But nobody fills out forms in sexual relations. 187 00:11:18 --> 00:11:25 Every now and then you get some well- meaning-- Antioch College 188 00:11:25 --> 00:11:34 had a behavior code that boiled down to a consent form for 189 00:11:34 --> 00:11:36 interpersonal relations. 190 00:11:36 --> 00:11:42 But nobody really runs their life that way. 191 00:11:42 --> 00:11:45 Hi, I think our relationship has gotten to a certain point, 192 00:11:45 --> 00:11:48 would you please sign the following sixteen page form? 193 00:11:48 --> 00:11:52 194 00:11:52 --> 00:11:55 It doesn't quite ring true. 195 00:11:55 --> 00:12:01 Though in fact, it might be a marvel-- most of these efforts 196 00:12:01 --> 00:12:06 sound a little like softcore porn for the academic class. 197 00:12:06 --> 00:12:10 You know, long, written out forms that describe in 198 00:12:10 --> 00:12:16 detail, who's going to do what to whose body? 199 00:12:16 --> 00:12:18 It might be a kind of an interesting exercise, but 200 00:12:18 --> 00:12:21 suffice it to say that communication in intimate 201 00:12:21 --> 00:12:24 relationships doesn't look like that. 202 00:12:24 --> 00:12:28 And the possibilities are ripe for miscommunication and when 203 00:12:28 --> 00:12:34 you ask in survey data about relationships that became 204 00:12:34 --> 00:12:39 coercive in some fashion, what you find out is that there 205 00:12:39 --> 00:12:44 often seems to be a core chunk of miscommunication. 206 00:12:44 --> 00:12:48 So this gives us some sort of an epidemiological 207 00:12:48 --> 00:12:49 look at the problem. 208 00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 It doesn't have any explanatory power in itself. 209 00:12:51 --> 00:12:55 It just says that look, there are these things 210 00:12:55 --> 00:12:57 that are risk factors. 211 00:12:57 --> 00:13:02 It's more likely that if you're drunk in the back of his car 212 00:13:02 --> 00:13:03 that something's going to happen. 213 00:13:03 --> 00:13:06 214 00:13:06 --> 00:13:12 How can we understand this from a more theoretical 215 00:13:12 --> 00:13:14 point of view? 216 00:13:14 --> 00:13:17 Well, that's why it says theories on the handout, I see. 217 00:13:17 --> 00:13:20 218 00:13:20 --> 00:13:22 Again, one of the reasons we're talking about this is that 219 00:13:22 --> 00:13:25 gives me a lovely chance to go back and review the 220 00:13:25 --> 00:13:26 entire course. 221 00:13:26 --> 00:13:29 The theories run the usual run that you should be extremely 222 00:13:29 --> 00:13:30 familiar with at this point. 223 00:13:30 --> 00:13:33 224 00:13:33 --> 00:13:35 Well, since we're in the chunk of course on abnormal 225 00:13:35 --> 00:13:38 psychology there are psychopathological theories 226 00:13:38 --> 00:13:43 that say that the guys who end up accused of date 227 00:13:43 --> 00:13:47 rape are sick. 228 00:13:47 --> 00:13:51 That they are mentally ill in some fashion. 229 00:13:51 --> 00:13:55 That is not a bad theory for what's known as blitz rape. 230 00:13:55 --> 00:13:58 For the stranger in the bushes kind of rape. 231 00:13:58 --> 00:14:04 Those guys, and again, it's overwhelmingly males who commit 232 00:14:04 --> 00:14:10 stranger-- well, blitz rape is the term for some stranger 233 00:14:10 --> 00:14:13 grabs a person and rapes them. 234 00:14:13 --> 00:14:19 Those guys, those rapists when they are studied don't look 235 00:14:19 --> 00:14:22 psychologically normal, typically, as a population. 236 00:14:22 --> 00:14:24 They look deviant. 237 00:14:24 --> 00:14:29 However, there's nothing in these date rape population 238 00:14:29 --> 00:14:33 that looks like that. 239 00:14:33 --> 00:14:35 The standard description in a court case, I think I mentioned 240 00:14:35 --> 00:14:37 is, oh, just a regular guy. 241 00:14:37 --> 00:14:41 Just the guy next door and that really seems to be the case. 242 00:14:41 --> 00:14:44 There's some evidence for instance, that they might drink 243 00:14:44 --> 00:14:50 more than the population as a whole, but that's not 244 00:14:50 --> 00:14:53 telling you very much. 245 00:14:53 --> 00:14:58 So if it's not an individual pathology there are a class of 246 00:14:58 --> 00:15:04 theories out there that suggest that it's a gender pathology. 247 00:15:04 --> 00:15:08 That it's a problem of guys in general. 248 00:15:08 --> 00:15:12 The name, at least that I most closely associate with this is, 249 00:15:12 --> 00:15:16 Thornhill or Thornhill and Thornhill since there appear to 250 00:15:16 --> 00:15:18 be two of them from the reference on the handout. 251 00:15:18 --> 00:15:21 252 00:15:21 --> 00:15:23 I think only one of them wrote the book, two of 253 00:15:23 --> 00:15:25 them wrote the article. 254 00:15:25 --> 00:15:31 There's an MIT Press book that made quite a bit of a stir in 255 00:15:31 --> 00:15:38 the media-- oh, must be five years ago now or so-- that 256 00:15:38 --> 00:15:41 addressed the argument, the evolutionary psych argument 257 00:15:41 --> 00:15:47 that rape is adaptive. 258 00:15:47 --> 00:15:49 Again, to explain is not to condone. 259 00:15:49 --> 00:15:52 This is not that Thornhill was busy saying it's 260 00:15:52 --> 00:15:54 adaptive, so it's good. 261 00:15:54 --> 00:16:00 They're saying that it's got an evolutionary, adaptive function 262 00:16:00 --> 00:16:03 to it and it doesn't take a genius to figure this out if 263 00:16:03 --> 00:16:05 you were following the earlier arguments. 264 00:16:05 --> 00:16:13 If a male's goal is well, let's go propagate our genes-- and 265 00:16:13 --> 00:16:16 because he doesn't get pregnant and she does there's 266 00:16:16 --> 00:16:17 this asymmetry. 267 00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 She wants somebody who's going to have commitment 268 00:16:19 --> 00:16:20 to the whole project. 269 00:16:20 --> 00:16:24 He just wants to impregnate women and get those genes 270 00:16:24 --> 00:16:27 into the next generation. 271 00:16:27 --> 00:16:31 Taken to the extreme, somebody who goes out and just forcibly 272 00:16:31 --> 00:16:36 goes and impregnates people has a chance of getting more of 273 00:16:36 --> 00:16:44 their genes into the next generation and maybe 274 00:16:44 --> 00:16:47 that's adaptive. 275 00:16:47 --> 00:16:53 One can argue that there is no specific adaptation toward 276 00:16:53 --> 00:17:02 sexual violence, but that it is the combination of a general-- 277 00:17:02 --> 00:17:06 males are on average, more aggressive than females. 278 00:17:06 --> 00:17:08 There's lots of data for this. 279 00:17:08 --> 00:17:12 At the start of the women's movement there was a fairly 280 00:17:12 --> 00:17:17 strenuous effort to argue that the differences in aggression 281 00:17:17 --> 00:17:22 between males and females were all just driven by culture. 282 00:17:22 --> 00:17:26 That little boys were trained to be soldiers and little girls 283 00:17:26 --> 00:17:29 were trained-- they were playing with the dolls and the 284 00:17:29 --> 00:17:35 guys were playing with the guns and so in the 70s, 80s that 285 00:17:35 --> 00:17:39 thing you did if you were a parent of feminist sort of 286 00:17:39 --> 00:17:42 inclinations is you made sure that your little girl had guns 287 00:17:42 --> 00:17:46 and your little boy had dolls and the experience over the 288 00:17:46 --> 00:17:52 course of, I suppose, the generation or so now is that if 289 00:17:52 --> 00:17:55 you're a little boy you can make a gun out of Barbie too, 290 00:17:55 --> 00:17:58 if you hold her just right she looks like a submachine gun. 291 00:17:58 --> 00:18:05 292 00:18:05 --> 00:18:09 To recapitulate a large literature in a line or so 293 00:18:09 --> 00:18:17 there is plenty of evidence at this point that human males are 294 00:18:17 --> 00:18:21 bigger and more aggressive than human females. 295 00:18:21 --> 00:18:24 Not true across the entire animal kingdom. 296 00:18:24 --> 00:18:29 I don't think I've told you about the octopus. 297 00:18:29 --> 00:18:34 The greatest case of sexual asymmetry in the animal kingdom 298 00:18:34 --> 00:18:40 as far as I know is some seagoing octopus that I think 299 00:18:40 --> 00:18:43 was actually only discovered as a species within the 300 00:18:43 --> 00:18:44 last decade or so. 301 00:18:44 --> 00:18:54 But this is an octopus where the male is small enough that 302 00:18:54 --> 00:18:58 he could fit into her eye. 303 00:18:58 --> 00:19:01 So this is an asymmetrical species. 304 00:19:01 --> 00:19:05 305 00:19:05 --> 00:19:13 It's not clear-- and his goal in life-- he's a little 306 00:19:13 --> 00:19:15 octopus harpoon. 307 00:19:15 --> 00:19:18 And his goal in life is to impregnate one of these 308 00:19:18 --> 00:19:20 gigantic [UNINTELLIGIBLE] 309 00:19:20 --> 00:19:22 octopuses swimming around. 310 00:19:22 --> 00:19:25 It's abundantly unclear that she knows what's 311 00:19:25 --> 00:19:27 happened at all, right? 312 00:19:27 --> 00:19:30 [UNINTELLIGIBLE PHRASE] 313 00:19:30 --> 00:19:33 Oh look, we've got babies or something. 314 00:19:33 --> 00:19:33 I don't know. 315 00:19:33 --> 00:19:35 Do octopus bear live young or not? 316 00:19:35 --> 00:19:36 I don't remember. 317 00:19:36 --> 00:19:43 Anyway, very dramatic asymmetry running the other direction. 318 00:19:43 --> 00:19:50 319 00:19:50 --> 00:19:52 There are plenty of species where the female is the more 320 00:19:52 --> 00:19:55 aggressive species-- did I tell you about spiders? 321 00:19:55 --> 00:19:58 Yeah, I told you about spiders. 322 00:19:58 --> 00:20:00 Praying mantises are good too. 323 00:20:00 --> 00:20:03 324 00:20:03 --> 00:20:08 Praying mantis sexual relations apparently involve her biting 325 00:20:08 --> 00:20:13 off his head, which apparently doesn't impair his functions 326 00:20:13 --> 00:20:15 as a mate at all. 327 00:20:15 --> 00:20:19 One of the great advantages of a distributed nervous system, 328 00:20:19 --> 00:20:23 the head is overrated in praying mantises apparently. 329 00:20:23 --> 00:20:30 Everything is out there, but in humans it's clear that 330 00:20:30 --> 00:20:32 males are more aggressive. 331 00:20:32 --> 00:20:36 Between being more aggressive and being inclined to have more 332 00:20:36 --> 00:20:41 sexual partners again, probably because of evolutionary forces. 333 00:20:41 --> 00:20:46 You could imagine that rather than having sexual aggression 334 00:20:46 --> 00:20:52 as a specific adaptation it ends up being sort of a 335 00:20:52 --> 00:20:57 byproduct of other facts that occur. 336 00:20:57 --> 00:21:00 337 00:21:00 --> 00:21:07 The notion that rape is sort of a male pathology, a gender wide 338 00:21:07 --> 00:21:11 pathology doesn't only show up in biological theories it also 339 00:21:11 --> 00:21:15 shows up in very sociological theories of sexual behavior. 340 00:21:15 --> 00:21:20 Notably, in feminist theories. 341 00:21:20 --> 00:21:25 One version of these would be the theory that-- this I'm 342 00:21:25 --> 00:21:29 borrowing from a book by [? Sandais ?] 343 00:21:29 --> 00:21:32 that rape is the means by which men are programmed 344 00:21:32 --> 00:21:32 for violence. 345 00:21:32 --> 00:21:36 A way to induct younger men into masculine roles. 346 00:21:36 --> 00:21:38 That it's somehow a training ground. 347 00:21:38 --> 00:21:44 She argues that in cultures where everybody sort of lives 348 00:21:44 --> 00:21:49 at harmony with nature and the mother child bond is sacred and 349 00:21:49 --> 00:21:52 things like that, that this doesn't happen. 350 00:21:52 --> 00:21:57 That rape happens in cultures where you need guys to go out 351 00:21:57 --> 00:21:59 and deal with the dangerous world. 352 00:21:59 --> 00:22:04 They gotta go out and do in the bears and the lions or 353 00:22:04 --> 00:22:07 something and that rape is in some sense, a training 354 00:22:07 --> 00:22:09 ground for that. 355 00:22:09 --> 00:22:14 It's an odd theory on two grounds actually, this one. 356 00:22:14 --> 00:22:18 One reason is it's desperately unclear that there are any of 357 00:22:18 --> 00:22:20 these lovely pastoral societies out there. 358 00:22:20 --> 00:22:24 We used to think people like Margaret Mead had told us that 359 00:22:24 --> 00:22:27 down in the South Seas there were-- in Samoa-- there were 360 00:22:27 --> 00:22:33 people without sexual hang-ups, everybody got along marvelously 361 00:22:33 --> 00:22:37 and it was all lovely. 362 00:22:37 --> 00:22:39 The data don't look so good when you go back and look. 363 00:22:39 --> 00:22:42 Subsequently, she saw a little bit of what she wanted to see 364 00:22:42 --> 00:22:48 and if you go and look at-- when you go and look at these 365 00:22:48 --> 00:22:51 nice simple cultures-- you get these reports from time to time 366 00:22:51 --> 00:22:54 of hunter-gatherer cultures that live in harmony with 367 00:22:54 --> 00:22:55 nature and stuff like that. 368 00:22:55 --> 00:22:57 When you actually go look at it it turns out they murder and 369 00:22:57 --> 00:22:59 rape each other at exactly the sort of rates that we murder 370 00:22:59 --> 00:23:02 and rape each other. 371 00:23:02 --> 00:23:07 There is no Garden of Eden out there, at least not anymore 372 00:23:07 --> 00:23:10 where everybody's living in beautiful harmony. 373 00:23:10 --> 00:23:13 374 00:23:13 --> 00:23:18 Another problem with the theory that it's got a general role is 375 00:23:18 --> 00:23:23 that the culture as a whole, at least explicitly, says 376 00:23:23 --> 00:23:26 that rape is illegal and says that rape is bad. 377 00:23:26 --> 00:23:32 That makes it hard to argue that the entire male gender is 378 00:23:32 --> 00:23:36 in on some plan to use this as a training ground for going out 379 00:23:36 --> 00:23:38 and killing the bears or something of that sort. 380 00:23:38 --> 00:23:42 A much more interesting, it seems to me, feminist account 381 00:23:42 --> 00:23:48 of what's going on is that rape is a giant protection 382 00:23:48 --> 00:23:50 racket run by males. 383 00:23:50 --> 00:23:53 384 00:23:53 --> 00:23:58 If you read feminist tracts on this I think they write as 385 00:23:58 --> 00:24:03 though there's some group of guys sitting around somehow 386 00:24:03 --> 00:24:07 deciding explicitly that this is the way things are. 387 00:24:07 --> 00:24:10 But the theory makes more sense if you think of it implicitly. 388 00:24:10 --> 00:24:14 Rather like if you think about it in terms of 389 00:24:14 --> 00:24:15 the cuckoo story. 390 00:24:15 --> 00:24:15 Remember cuckoos? 391 00:24:15 --> 00:24:19 Cuckoos are going and cheating and laying eggs 392 00:24:19 --> 00:24:21 in other bird's nests. 393 00:24:21 --> 00:24:24 But you can't have too many cuckoos. 394 00:24:24 --> 00:24:28 The argument runs-- because if you have too many cuckoos 395 00:24:28 --> 00:24:30 everybody dies, right? 396 00:24:30 --> 00:24:33 The argument runs in a similar kind of way in this argument. 397 00:24:33 --> 00:24:36 398 00:24:36 --> 00:24:40 You can't have all males being rapists. 399 00:24:40 --> 00:24:45 That just isn't a recipe for civilization. 400 00:24:45 --> 00:24:54 But if the society condones or spits up or creates a cadre of 401 00:24:54 --> 00:25:00 rapists then the rest of the guys can take on the role of 402 00:25:00 --> 00:25:05 protecting women from those bad guys. 403 00:25:05 --> 00:25:09 The argument is that rape is condoned in the society, 404 00:25:09 --> 00:25:12 perhaps implicitly rather than explicitly. 405 00:25:12 --> 00:25:14 I've got a useful, normal curve here. 406 00:25:14 --> 00:25:20 You know, we'll have a few guys out here who are bad and we, 407 00:25:20 --> 00:25:23 the rest of us, us good guys can now protect women 408 00:25:23 --> 00:25:25 from those bad guys. 409 00:25:25 --> 00:25:26 Well, what's that going to mean? 410 00:25:26 --> 00:25:29 Well, it might mean gee, you shouldn't go out 411 00:25:29 --> 00:25:31 much, for instance. 412 00:25:31 --> 00:25:33 You know, you should stay at home. 413 00:25:33 --> 00:25:38 414 00:25:38 --> 00:25:42 Or you should not be seen by men, you should not wear this, 415 00:25:42 --> 00:25:43 you should not do this. 416 00:25:43 --> 00:25:49 In any case, feminist argument argues that it can be a tool of 417 00:25:49 --> 00:25:56 control over women even if you only have a very small minority 418 00:25:56 --> 00:26:02 of males engaging in the activity. 419 00:26:02 --> 00:26:08 That strikes me as actually a fairly clever argument. 420 00:26:08 --> 00:26:15 I don't know if it's true, but it's an interesting argument. 421 00:26:15 --> 00:26:23 The feminist arguments often point towards pornography as a 422 00:26:23 --> 00:26:31 culprit here, as a training ground in the sense that if you 423 00:26:31 --> 00:26:38 took the earlier notion that the mind gets to pick its 424 00:26:38 --> 00:26:41 abnormality-- gets to pick how to go insane if you like, from 425 00:26:41 --> 00:26:46 the menu that's provided by the broader culture. 426 00:26:46 --> 00:26:49 So currently, if you want to have a dissociative disorder 427 00:26:49 --> 00:26:52 the way to have it is a multiple personality disorder. 428 00:26:52 --> 00:26:54 Couple hundred years ago it might have been to be 429 00:26:54 --> 00:26:56 possessed by a demon. 430 00:26:56 --> 00:26:59 These are the scripts if you like provided by the culture. 431 00:26:59 --> 00:27:03 Feminist writers argue that pornography and notably, 432 00:27:03 --> 00:27:09 violent pornography provides the script for coercive sex. 433 00:27:09 --> 00:27:12 434 00:27:12 --> 00:27:15 A number of feminist legal scholars have worked hard-- 435 00:27:15 --> 00:27:18 Catherine MacKinnon is the most famous name here-- have worked 436 00:27:18 --> 00:27:23 hard to make at least some classes of pornography illegal 437 00:27:23 --> 00:27:26 on grounds that they are actually dangerous to women. 438 00:27:26 --> 00:27:32 That it's not a free speech issue, that it's really a 439 00:27:32 --> 00:27:37 health and safety sort of issue. 440 00:27:37 --> 00:27:44 So you've got levels of explanation that occur at 441 00:27:44 --> 00:27:50 psychological, biological, sociological levels. 442 00:27:50 --> 00:28:00 Well, let me give you a version that's perhaps a version that 443 00:28:00 --> 00:28:03 would fit the general ethos of this course, which is that the 444 00:28:03 --> 00:28:06 answer is never-- it's all biology or it's all sociology 445 00:28:06 --> 00:28:08 or something like that. 446 00:28:08 --> 00:28:12 It's some curious interaction that's taking place. 447 00:28:12 --> 00:28:14 Well, what's going on here? 448 00:28:14 --> 00:28:20 What occurred to me between this morning's version of this 449 00:28:20 --> 00:28:24 lecture and concourse and this afternoon's is that the job may 450 00:28:24 --> 00:28:32 be less to explain coercive sexual relations, which you can 451 00:28:32 --> 00:28:37 see as-- like everything else, sexual relations are going to 452 00:28:37 --> 00:28:40 be distributed along some normal curve. 453 00:28:40 --> 00:28:42 It's going to have multiple dimensions but this one could 454 00:28:42 --> 00:28:47 be on a scale from extremely consenual to extremely 455 00:28:47 --> 00:28:49 not consenual. 456 00:28:49 --> 00:28:53 I suppose the extremely consenual abnormality one is 457 00:28:53 --> 00:28:56 the one where people really do sign forms or something like 458 00:28:56 --> 00:29:00 that and talk to each other in great detail about what's 459 00:29:00 --> 00:29:01 going to happen next. 460 00:29:01 --> 00:29:08 But the job may be not just to explain or to explain this the 461 00:29:08 --> 00:29:11 extreme point on what's after all going to be a normal 462 00:29:11 --> 00:29:16 function, but to explain how the overall behavior gets 463 00:29:16 --> 00:29:18 put in place all together. 464 00:29:18 --> 00:29:21 465 00:29:21 --> 00:29:24 It's one of those behaviors where high school health class 466 00:29:24 --> 00:29:28 not withstanding, nobody gives you much in the way of lessons 467 00:29:28 --> 00:29:32 and the lessons that you get are stupid lessons that you get 468 00:29:32 --> 00:29:36 from listening to your peers lie their heads off 469 00:29:36 --> 00:29:39 in the locker room. 470 00:29:39 --> 00:29:42 Where is this behavior coming from? 471 00:29:42 --> 00:29:47 People are learning this behavior in some fashion, we're 472 00:29:47 --> 00:29:52 not after all, praying mantises where the whole business is 473 00:29:52 --> 00:29:56 just wired into some ganglion in your spinal cord and if you 474 00:29:56 --> 00:30:00 take off the head everything works just fine anyway. 475 00:30:00 --> 00:30:02 So where is this behavior coming from? 476 00:30:02 --> 00:30:04 The pieces, fortunately, for the handout-- I'm not going 477 00:30:04 --> 00:30:07 to depart wildly from the handout-- the pieces strike me 478 00:30:07 --> 00:30:10 as similar to the pieces I was going to use anyway. 479 00:30:10 --> 00:30:14 One important piece and it's back to this idea that you get 480 00:30:14 --> 00:30:21 to choose your disorder or just your behavior in some fashion 481 00:30:21 --> 00:30:25 from the set of behaviors that your culture presents to you. 482 00:30:25 --> 00:30:30 Part of that is what we can consider to be the power of 483 00:30:30 --> 00:30:34 narrative thought in these sorts of behaviors. 484 00:30:34 --> 00:30:36 What's narrative thought? 485 00:30:36 --> 00:30:38 To review, I think. 486 00:30:38 --> 00:30:43 So propositional thought is moving symbols around and the 487 00:30:43 --> 00:30:47 sorts of things you might do in problem set land. 488 00:30:47 --> 00:30:52 Narrative thought is storytelling. 489 00:30:52 --> 00:30:53 You got the stuff? 490 00:30:53 --> 00:30:54 She's got the stuff. 491 00:30:54 --> 00:30:55 It's good. 492 00:30:55 --> 00:30:59 This is the evaluation forms for later. 493 00:30:59 --> 00:31:04 So narrative thought is about telling stories to yourself. 494 00:31:04 --> 00:31:08 And it's about telling yourself who you are. 495 00:31:08 --> 00:31:12 If you ask, why did that happen? 496 00:31:12 --> 00:31:14 You know, you don't generally sit down and start writing 497 00:31:14 --> 00:31:15 equations about it. 498 00:31:15 --> 00:31:17 You run through stories in your head. 499 00:31:17 --> 00:31:19 If you ask, what's going to happen next? 500 00:31:19 --> 00:31:21 You very much start running stories in your head. 501 00:31:21 --> 00:31:26 If I ask her out, what's going to happen? 502 00:31:26 --> 00:31:28 That's sort of narrative thought. 503 00:31:28 --> 00:31:30 Well, where did the narratives come from? 504 00:31:30 --> 00:31:36 505 00:31:36 --> 00:31:42 In the case of relations between the sexes-- well, let 506 00:31:42 --> 00:31:45 me give you a cartoon version of an answer to that. 507 00:31:45 --> 00:31:46 But I think it is illustrative. 508 00:31:46 --> 00:31:49 509 00:31:49 --> 00:31:53 If you go to the romance aisle, I mean, if you want to 510 00:31:53 --> 00:31:56 understand the narrative about romance you might as well go to 511 00:31:56 --> 00:32:00 the aisle in Borders that says romance on it. 512 00:32:00 --> 00:32:04 I mean, if you go to the aisle that says engineering you can 513 00:32:04 --> 00:32:05 find something different. 514 00:32:05 --> 00:32:08 So you go to the romance aisle and there's rack 515 00:32:08 --> 00:32:10 after rack of books. 516 00:32:10 --> 00:32:13 Conveniently enough I don't know what's in these books, by 517 00:32:13 --> 00:32:17 and large, because it's not a genre I read extensively, but I 518 00:32:17 --> 00:32:22 look at the covers and the covers seem pretty well 519 00:32:22 --> 00:32:23 illustrative as it were. 520 00:32:23 --> 00:32:30 What's on the cover of your typical romance novel? 521 00:32:30 --> 00:32:31 All right, we'll start with the basics. 522 00:32:31 --> 00:32:34 How many people are there on the cover of-- 523 00:32:34 --> 00:32:34 AUDIENCE: Twp. 524 00:32:34 --> 00:32:35 PROFESSOR: Two. 525 00:32:35 --> 00:32:37 That's a good number. 526 00:32:37 --> 00:32:38 OK. 527 00:32:38 --> 00:32:43 I'm sure somewhere that there is a genre of same sex romance 528 00:32:43 --> 00:32:47 novels, but they're not typically what's on the shelf 529 00:32:47 --> 00:32:49 at Borders or Barnes & Noble or something. 530 00:32:49 --> 00:32:52 There what you've got is you got two people. 531 00:32:52 --> 00:32:57 One of them is a male and one of them is a female. 532 00:32:57 --> 00:33:07 I will assert that in case after case it's the same 533 00:33:07 --> 00:33:11 picture more or less. 534 00:33:11 --> 00:33:14 Drawn in some gaudy kind of fashion, but the picture 535 00:33:14 --> 00:33:15 looks like this. 536 00:33:15 --> 00:33:18 537 00:33:18 --> 00:33:19 Right? 538 00:33:19 --> 00:33:21 Yeah? 539 00:33:21 --> 00:33:24 OK, so we got two people. 540 00:33:24 --> 00:33:26 We got this picture. 541 00:33:26 --> 00:33:29 Do we know which one is the guy? 542 00:33:29 --> 00:33:32 AUDIENCE: Yes. 543 00:33:32 --> 00:33:36 PROFESSOR: So one person-- there's this guy. 544 00:33:36 --> 00:33:45 He's the guy-- the pirate, the sailor, sometimes the doctor 545 00:33:45 --> 00:33:47 or something like that. 546 00:33:47 --> 00:33:49 You know, I don't think I've ever seen one where it was 547 00:33:49 --> 00:33:50 the college professor. 548 00:33:50 --> 00:33:54 Doesn't seem to be on the list at all. 549 00:33:54 --> 00:33:57 550 00:33:57 --> 00:34:00 Then there's the woman who's having clothing 551 00:34:00 --> 00:34:01 issues typically. 552 00:34:01 --> 00:34:05 553 00:34:05 --> 00:34:09 And she's in this sort of supine position. 554 00:34:09 --> 00:34:12 555 00:34:12 --> 00:34:16 This is telling you something. 556 00:34:16 --> 00:34:19 By the way, I was doing research on this-- I kid you 557 00:34:19 --> 00:34:25 not-- I thought I'd better check whether it's still true. 558 00:34:25 --> 00:34:29 You know, it could that in this latter day, I mean, if you ask 559 00:34:29 --> 00:34:33 for instance-- actually, I should ask again because 560 00:34:33 --> 00:34:35 these things keep shifting. 561 00:34:35 --> 00:34:41 The standard model when I was, well, when I was in high school 562 00:34:41 --> 00:34:43 whatever the standard model was I was ignoring it and was 563 00:34:43 --> 00:34:46 completely clueless, but in any case, the standard model 564 00:34:46 --> 00:34:49 appeared to be that the male person asked the 565 00:34:49 --> 00:34:51 female person out. 566 00:34:51 --> 00:34:56 Sometime that sort of disappeared, near as I can tell 567 00:34:56 --> 00:35:00 and nobody asked anybody out and people just sort of-- it 568 00:35:00 --> 00:35:03 was kind of like a chemical thing. 569 00:35:03 --> 00:35:08 Numbers of women and men were in the same place and by some 570 00:35:08 --> 00:35:11 mysterious technique they bonded. 571 00:35:11 --> 00:35:15 572 00:35:15 --> 00:35:17 Let's see. 573 00:35:17 --> 00:35:19 Since all the data here are survey data, let's 574 00:35:19 --> 00:35:20 get some survey data. 575 00:35:20 --> 00:35:23 576 00:35:23 --> 00:35:28 Is it typical for males to ask out females? 577 00:35:28 --> 00:35:32 How many think that that's typical? 578 00:35:32 --> 00:35:36 How may think it's typical for females to ask out males? 579 00:35:36 --> 00:35:38 Oh, isn't that interesting? 580 00:35:38 --> 00:35:41 See that's interesting because that's not the answer that I 581 00:35:41 --> 00:35:43 would have gotten from-- I haven't asked that question 582 00:35:43 --> 00:35:45 reliably every year, but it's not the answer I would have 583 00:35:45 --> 00:35:47 gotten ten years ago. 584 00:35:47 --> 00:35:54 Ten years ago the local custom had changed so that everybody 585 00:35:54 --> 00:35:57 was asking everybody or nobody was asking nobody, but there 586 00:35:57 --> 00:36:02 wasn't this sort of notion that males specifically were taking 587 00:36:02 --> 00:36:05 the lead and asking females. 588 00:36:05 --> 00:36:11 And so in a sense, it sounds like it's reverted to the 589 00:36:11 --> 00:36:15 pattern that existed when-- well, I won't say how many 590 00:36:15 --> 00:36:17 years ago, but it was a few years ago. 591 00:36:17 --> 00:36:22 Anyway, so I got to check whether or not the romance 592 00:36:22 --> 00:36:26 novels still look like this. 593 00:36:26 --> 00:36:28 So I went to Borders and went down to the romance aisle and I 594 00:36:28 --> 00:36:31 discovered this cool new thing. 595 00:36:31 --> 00:36:38 The cool new thing, at least it's new to me, is that the 596 00:36:38 --> 00:36:42 romance literature, these sort of series books have become 597 00:36:42 --> 00:36:45 explicitly stratified. 598 00:36:45 --> 00:36:50 That there are now multiple series of these things. 599 00:36:50 --> 00:36:51 They're color coded. 600 00:36:51 --> 00:36:56 It looks like homeland security, it's great because it 601 00:36:56 --> 00:37:00 runs from I think sort of a blue/green line, which has a 602 00:37:00 --> 00:37:07 title something like family values and then it runs over to 603 00:37:07 --> 00:37:12 this red line here-- I can't remember what the 604 00:37:12 --> 00:37:13 title of this is. 605 00:37:13 --> 00:37:15 This is all under the sort of general heading of Harlequin 606 00:37:15 --> 00:37:18 romance or one of those big romance publishers, but it's 607 00:37:18 --> 00:37:22 got some word like torrid in it or something like that. 608 00:37:22 --> 00:37:25 609 00:37:25 --> 00:37:29 But interestingly, the only difference in covers that I 610 00:37:29 --> 00:37:37 could detect on a brief survey is in the family values thing 611 00:37:37 --> 00:37:41 both parties are still more or less upright, but he's 612 00:37:41 --> 00:37:43 sort of leaning in. 613 00:37:43 --> 00:37:48 By the time you get to the torrid one she's, boom. 614 00:37:48 --> 00:37:49 Anyway, the principle is the same. 615 00:37:49 --> 00:37:56 It is not the case that-- there just are no books out there, 616 00:37:56 --> 00:37:58 there's probably one out there somewhere. 617 00:37:58 --> 00:38:01 618 00:38:01 --> 00:38:05 The central tendency of the distribution does not have a 619 00:38:05 --> 00:38:10 lot of female pirates overwhelming mild- 620 00:38:10 --> 00:38:13 mannered accountants or something like that. 621 00:38:13 --> 00:38:15 It's just not there. 622 00:38:15 --> 00:38:18 623 00:38:18 --> 00:38:22 I'm only using this as an example of a narrative that I 624 00:38:22 --> 00:38:24 think is very widely out there. 625 00:38:24 --> 00:38:26 You can pick it up in movies, you can pick 626 00:38:26 --> 00:38:29 it up on TV and so on. 627 00:38:29 --> 00:38:34 Importantly, it is not a narrative with anything like 628 00:38:34 --> 00:38:36 rape written at the top of it. 629 00:38:36 --> 00:38:41 It's a narrative with romance or seduction or something 630 00:38:41 --> 00:38:42 written at the top of it. 631 00:38:42 --> 00:38:46 And the promise in the vast bulk of cases that the ending 632 00:38:46 --> 00:38:49 is going to come out positive. 633 00:38:49 --> 00:38:51 I'd love to know what they just found on the web over there. 634 00:38:51 --> 00:38:54 AUDIENCE: We're looking up gay romance novels. 635 00:38:54 --> 00:38:58 PROFESSOR: You're looking up gay romance novels, OK. 636 00:38:58 --> 00:39:00 Thank you for being diligent in your research there. 637 00:39:00 --> 00:39:05 638 00:39:05 --> 00:39:09 Well, you can tell me who's-- anyway, nevermind. 639 00:39:09 --> 00:39:10 AUDIENCE: There's no picture. 640 00:39:10 --> 00:39:11 PROFESSOR: They don't have pictures. 641 00:39:11 --> 00:39:16 642 00:39:16 --> 00:39:18 Meantime there's several people trying to figure out on their 643 00:39:18 --> 00:39:21 cellphones what's there. 644 00:39:21 --> 00:39:27 Anyway, so the script out there, the sort of script that 645 00:39:27 --> 00:39:37 people are operating from is a script where-- well, it's, urk. 646 00:39:37 --> 00:39:40 That sort of script. 647 00:39:40 --> 00:39:46 Again, importantly not with the idea that it's not going to be 648 00:39:46 --> 00:39:50 consenual or whatever, but the notion here is that it's going 649 00:39:50 --> 00:39:56 to be in effect, the male who's doing the asking and the female 650 00:39:56 --> 00:40:02 who is giving or not giving consent in some fashion. 651 00:40:02 --> 00:40:08 This is presumably tied into evolutionary psych roots that 652 00:40:08 --> 00:40:10 we've talked about already. 653 00:40:10 --> 00:40:13 I think I mentioned earlier that there's evidence that 654 00:40:13 --> 00:40:17 males experience the falling in love part of falling 655 00:40:17 --> 00:40:21 in love more rapidly in a relationship than females. 656 00:40:21 --> 00:40:25 They certainly want more sexual partners and sex more often 657 00:40:25 --> 00:40:27 by all sorts of measures. 658 00:40:27 --> 00:40:32 These sort of pressures are likely to produce a situation 659 00:40:32 --> 00:40:38 in which it is the guy who's asking and the woman who is 660 00:40:38 --> 00:40:40 either giving or not giving consent. 661 00:40:40 --> 00:40:50 Now if it is the case that the male is falling in love more 662 00:40:50 --> 00:40:54 rapidly or falling in lust more rapidly-- it kind of doesn't 663 00:40:54 --> 00:41:01 matter-- it follows that the first answer's going to be no. 664 00:41:01 --> 00:41:04 665 00:41:04 --> 00:41:06 Typically, there are going to be some no's. 666 00:41:06 --> 00:41:09 If this is this script that the conversation is going 667 00:41:09 --> 00:41:11 to involve a bunch of no's. 668 00:41:11 --> 00:41:14 Now we should switch gears a little and do a little 669 00:41:14 --> 00:41:21 reviewing of learning theory sorts of things. 670 00:41:21 --> 00:41:23 I think it says something on the handout like the 671 00:41:23 --> 00:41:24 power of conditioning. 672 00:41:24 --> 00:41:29 But let's think a little bit about learning theory. 673 00:41:29 --> 00:41:31 Well, let's think about law of effect kind of 674 00:41:31 --> 00:41:33 stuff for starters. 675 00:41:33 --> 00:41:36 676 00:41:36 --> 00:41:39 The drive to reproduce is a strong one. 677 00:41:39 --> 00:41:42 There are strong positive reinforcers 678 00:41:42 --> 00:41:45 associated with sex. 679 00:41:45 --> 00:41:48 Nobody spends a lot of time-- I mean, look, if you think about 680 00:41:48 --> 00:41:51 the amount of-- I don't need to explain that. 681 00:41:51 --> 00:41:52 You knew that already. 682 00:41:52 --> 00:41:58 683 00:41:58 --> 00:42:04 What Thorndike's law of effect tells you is that any of 684 00:42:04 --> 00:42:09 these sort of yes activities here, at any level in the 685 00:42:09 --> 00:42:11 relationship are going to be positively reinforcing. 686 00:42:11 --> 00:42:15 Are going to tend to reinforce whatever happened beforehand. 687 00:42:15 --> 00:42:18 And so one of the things that people are doing and one of the 688 00:42:18 --> 00:42:20 things that they don't appreciate that they're doing 689 00:42:20 --> 00:42:22 even if they're signing fifteen page consent forms, which 690 00:42:22 --> 00:42:26 they're not-- is that people are shaping each other. 691 00:42:26 --> 00:42:30 The activities that couples are engaging in with each 692 00:42:30 --> 00:42:35 other are-- it's your own private Skinner box. 693 00:42:35 --> 00:42:40 And you're busy shaping that pigeon who is the other 694 00:42:40 --> 00:42:42 half of this relationship. 695 00:42:42 --> 00:42:46 The great difference of course is you're both the experimenter 696 00:42:46 --> 00:42:50 and the experimental animal in your study here. 697 00:42:50 --> 00:42:54 But let's just think from the male's point of view. 698 00:42:54 --> 00:42:59 So the male is hearing a lot of no's. 699 00:42:59 --> 00:43:05 If the relationship is eventually going to progress to 700 00:43:05 --> 00:43:10 let's have fifteen children then eventually there will be 701 00:43:10 --> 00:43:13 some variety of yes in here. 702 00:43:13 --> 00:43:17 That sounds like, what kind of schedule of reinforcement? 703 00:43:17 --> 00:43:18 AUDIENCE: [UNINTELLIGIBLE] 704 00:43:18 --> 00:43:19 PROFESSOR: Broomph. 705 00:43:19 --> 00:43:23 706 00:43:23 --> 00:43:26 No, somebody needs to raise their hand and nobody's 707 00:43:26 --> 00:43:27 going to raise their hand. 708 00:43:27 --> 00:43:31 They've all gotten shy. 709 00:43:31 --> 00:43:33 You scratch your head you're going to end up getting 710 00:43:33 --> 00:43:35 called on there. 711 00:43:35 --> 00:43:42 So the answer is this is a partial reinforcement schedule 712 00:43:42 --> 00:43:45 or more like a variable ratio schedule. 713 00:43:45 --> 00:43:47 It's not a variable interval schedule unless you have a 714 00:43:47 --> 00:43:48 very weird relationship. 715 00:43:48 --> 00:43:48 No. 716 00:43:48 --> 00:43:49 No. 717 00:43:49 --> 00:43:49 No. 718 00:43:49 --> 00:43:50 Monday, yes. 719 00:43:50 --> 00:43:51 No. 720 00:43:51 --> 00:43:51 No. 721 00:43:51 --> 00:43:51 No. 722 00:43:51 --> 00:43:52 Monday, yes. 723 00:43:52 --> 00:43:55 724 00:43:55 --> 00:43:56 That's a weird relationship. 725 00:43:56 --> 00:43:57 But more likely it's no. 726 00:43:57 --> 00:43:57 No. 727 00:43:57 --> 00:43:58 No. 728 00:43:58 --> 00:43:58 Yes. 729 00:43:58 --> 00:43:59 Maybe. 730 00:43:59 --> 00:43:59 No. 731 00:43:59 --> 00:43:59 Yes. 732 00:43:59 --> 00:44:00 Yes. 733 00:44:00 --> 00:44:00 No. 734 00:44:00 --> 00:44:00 No. 735 00:44:00 --> 00:44:01 No. 736 00:44:01 --> 00:44:01 No. 737 00:44:01 --> 00:44:01 No. 738 00:44:01 --> 00:44:07 Anyway, what do we know about those sorts of schedules? 739 00:44:07 --> 00:44:09 What do they produce in the way of behavior? 740 00:44:09 --> 00:44:11 741 00:44:11 --> 00:44:15 High rates-- if this all sounds completely new to you guys 742 00:44:15 --> 00:44:17 you've got work to do between now and next Thursday, 743 00:44:17 --> 00:44:19 let me tell you. 744 00:44:19 --> 00:44:24 But these sort of schedules of reinforcement if it's in a rat 745 00:44:24 --> 00:44:28 trying to get fed produced very high rates of bar pressing. 746 00:44:28 --> 00:44:32 If it's in a guy, it presumably produces very high rates 747 00:44:32 --> 00:44:33 of bar pressing, too. 748 00:44:33 --> 00:44:36 So he's going to emit a lot of behavior there. 749 00:44:36 --> 00:44:40 And it's also very hard to extinguish. 750 00:44:40 --> 00:44:47 So if you decide at some point to say, no forever it may be a 751 00:44:47 --> 00:44:52 long time before the guy gets the hint. 752 00:44:52 --> 00:44:54 At least the pigeon aspect of the guy. 753 00:44:54 --> 00:44:58 754 00:44:58 --> 00:45:02 One other thing tying into this-- we ought to say one more 755 00:45:02 --> 00:45:06 thing based on the sort of romance novel example, which is 756 00:45:06 --> 00:45:11 that the dialog doesn't tend to be great in those things. 757 00:45:11 --> 00:45:14 Guys doing manly things, pounding on their chests 758 00:45:14 --> 00:45:18 and females swooning or something like that. 759 00:45:18 --> 00:45:20 But there's just not a lot of conversation. 760 00:45:20 --> 00:45:26 So in the absence you're this giant committee-- another theme 761 00:45:26 --> 00:45:30 from the whole course-- your brain, your mind is 762 00:45:30 --> 00:45:36 this committee of semi-independent operators. 763 00:45:36 --> 00:45:40 Well, there's one operator there that's doing the verbal 764 00:45:40 --> 00:45:46 consent thing and thinking deep thoughts, but it's in a script 765 00:45:46 --> 00:45:51 that does not have much in the way of good dialog in it. 766 00:45:51 --> 00:45:54 That leaves this other chunk of your brain. 767 00:45:54 --> 00:45:58 The chunk that has an awful lot in common with rats pressing 768 00:45:58 --> 00:46:00 bars for food in Skinner boxes. 769 00:46:00 --> 00:46:04 A lot of realm to govern behavior. 770 00:46:04 --> 00:46:07 If you're not going to govern behavior with what you might 771 00:46:07 --> 00:46:10 want to call higher cognitive powers, well, these nice 772 00:46:10 --> 00:46:12 associative learning mechanisms will do a perfectly 773 00:46:12 --> 00:46:13 fine job for you. 774 00:46:13 --> 00:46:15 Hmm, got reinforced. 775 00:46:15 --> 00:46:18 Let's do that again or something of that sort. 776 00:46:18 --> 00:46:23 So you end up with a situation where you've got multiple 777 00:46:23 --> 00:46:27 forces acting on you. 778 00:46:27 --> 00:46:33 And you've systematically disabled some of the more 779 00:46:33 --> 00:46:37 intellectual parts of you. 780 00:46:37 --> 00:46:39 It reminds me, how many people have been to 781 00:46:39 --> 00:46:40 the Science Museum? 782 00:46:40 --> 00:46:42 Another place you should go sometimes if you haven't been. 783 00:46:42 --> 00:46:43 I think you get in free, right? 784 00:46:43 --> 00:46:44 Do you get in free? 785 00:46:44 --> 00:46:45 AUDIENCE: Yep. 786 00:46:45 --> 00:46:45 PROFESSOR: Yep. 787 00:46:45 --> 00:46:48 Get in free, go to the science museum. 788 00:46:48 --> 00:46:50 What you'll discover if you go to the-- I don't think, I don't 789 00:46:50 --> 00:46:53 know if you'll still discover it-- remember my spiral? 790 00:46:53 --> 00:46:59 Somebody from 900 went and was a volunteer at the Science 791 00:46:59 --> 00:47:03 Museum and said, oh you got to build this cool-- they still 792 00:47:03 --> 00:47:05 have a great motion after effect spiral, which I believe 793 00:47:05 --> 00:47:10 is patterned on having seen it in this class years ago. 794 00:47:10 --> 00:47:14 And then when they would do the little show they 795 00:47:14 --> 00:47:18 were using my lines. 796 00:47:18 --> 00:47:20 I didn't even get residuals. 797 00:47:20 --> 00:47:22 798 00:47:22 --> 00:47:26 But one of the demos they have there in the math section is 799 00:47:26 --> 00:47:30 this wonderful thing with an endless collection of pins 800 00:47:30 --> 00:47:32 arranged into sort of triangular way-- one, 801 00:47:32 --> 00:47:34 two, three-- is that Pascal's triangle? 802 00:47:34 --> 00:47:35 AUDIENCE: Yeah. 803 00:47:35 --> 00:47:36 PROFESSOR: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 804 00:47:36 --> 00:47:38 Anyway, it's a version of that. 805 00:47:38 --> 00:47:42 Anyway, the cool version of the demo is that you drop a ball at 806 00:47:42 --> 00:47:46 the top and it bounces from pin to pin and in effect at each 807 00:47:46 --> 00:47:49 pin it's got a fifty-fifty crack of going one 808 00:47:49 --> 00:47:50 way or the other. 809 00:47:50 --> 00:47:56 And if you have enough layers of pins what you end up with is 810 00:47:56 --> 00:48:00 essentially-- well, is exactly in the limit, a nice 811 00:48:00 --> 00:48:01 normal distribution. 812 00:48:01 --> 00:48:08 813 00:48:08 --> 00:48:12 From a ball that just completely neutral, dropped at 814 00:48:12 --> 00:48:18 the top, most of the time it's going to end up here, some time 815 00:48:18 --> 00:48:23 it's going to end up at one extreme or the other. 816 00:48:23 --> 00:48:28 I suspect that this is not a bad model for a wide 817 00:48:28 --> 00:48:30 range of behaviors. 818 00:48:30 --> 00:48:34 I'll argue in closing that it's a good model-- that it's at 819 00:48:34 --> 00:48:38 least, a model worth thinking about for something like 820 00:48:38 --> 00:48:40 coercive sexual behavior. 821 00:48:40 --> 00:48:43 That we know or at least we think we know that the 822 00:48:43 --> 00:48:46 population of guys engaging in that behavior are not 823 00:48:46 --> 00:48:48 sitting out here in some separate distribution. 824 00:48:48 --> 00:48:53 They seem to be the distribution of regular guys 825 00:48:53 --> 00:48:56 that just ended up in an odd part of the distribution. 826 00:48:56 --> 00:49:04 And it may well be that this collection-- if you want you 827 00:49:04 --> 00:49:09 can think of it in terms of shaping. 828 00:49:09 --> 00:49:14 That the collection of positive reinforcers that they got just 829 00:49:14 --> 00:49:19 balanced randomly off into this direction and produced what 830 00:49:19 --> 00:49:23 boils down to a very maladaptive behavior where the 831 00:49:23 --> 00:49:26 same guy starting from the same point might well have ended up 832 00:49:26 --> 00:49:29 in-- would most guys starting up from the same point would've 833 00:49:29 --> 00:49:34 ended up in the same, in this vast bulk of the normal end of 834 00:49:34 --> 00:49:37 the distribution or the middle of the distribution. 835 00:49:37 --> 00:49:40 That you don't need to posit that there's anything 836 00:49:40 --> 00:49:44 specifically wrong and that you might have a very difficult 837 00:49:44 --> 00:49:47 time, the perhaps disturbing piece of this if you were 838 00:49:47 --> 00:49:50 trying to set public policy is that you might have a very 839 00:49:50 --> 00:49:55 difficult time trying to say, gee, what can we do that would 840 00:49:55 --> 00:49:58 prevent this tale from happening? 841 00:49:58 --> 00:50:02 Because it might really be the result of a succession 842 00:50:02 --> 00:50:05 of random events. 843 00:50:05 --> 00:50:08 One thing that you might guess is that the degree to which you 844 00:50:08 --> 00:50:15 let cognition back into the game and let it run less on the 845 00:50:15 --> 00:50:19 rat pushing the bar kind of thought, the less chance that 846 00:50:19 --> 00:50:23 you have of ending up in some maladaptive corner of this 847 00:50:23 --> 00:50:26 particular distribution, but that's not desperately clear. 848 00:50:26 --> 00:50:27 Can I prove this? 849 00:50:27 --> 00:50:29 No. 850 00:50:29 --> 00:50:33 And so does that mean that the right answer on the final will 851 00:50:33 --> 00:50:37 be where does coercive sex come from? 852 00:50:37 --> 00:50:41 Apparently it comes from bouncing down the pin. 853 00:50:41 --> 00:50:43 No. 854 00:50:43 --> 00:50:47 This is clearly marked as Wolf's theory and not only 855 00:50:47 --> 00:50:50 that it's Wolf theory since this morning. 856 00:50:50 --> 00:50:53 I may decide by this evening that it was really dumb and 857 00:50:53 --> 00:50:56 feel deeply humiliated that I ever got up and said it in 858 00:50:56 --> 00:51:02 public, but at the moment I don't. 859 00:51:02 --> 00:51:08 But what I do feel is that what I want to do-- well, I want 860 00:51:08 --> 00:51:09 to do a couple of things. 861 00:51:09 --> 00:51:14 Thing one is to say, thank you for listening all term. 862 00:51:14 --> 00:51:17 It's kind of a privilege to be able to yack for a whole 863 00:51:17 --> 00:51:19 term and have people listen. 864 00:51:19 --> 00:51:20 It doesn't happen at home much. 865 00:51:20 --> 00:51:22 866 00:51:22 --> 00:51:30 The second, there are two different forms 867 00:51:30 --> 00:51:32 floating around. 868 00:51:32 --> 00:51:34 Well actually they're not--