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DAVID HSU: My name is David Hsu.

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Welcome to another installment
of my lecture series

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on urban energy
systems and policy.

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This is a class taught by the
Department of Urban Studies

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and Planning at MIT.

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And what we're going
to talk about today

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is the next installment of
talking about renewables

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and renewable energy.

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We're going to talk
about solar today.

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And this, again, is a
fundamental building block

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for how we are going
to decarbonize cities.

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The readings for today
are on the syllabus.

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If you have the PDF
hard copies, you

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can click through to the
readings in the pink links

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here on this page.

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I'll just recap what I
said in the last lecture.

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You have a renewable toolbox.

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The exciting thing is
that our building blocks,

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like solar, wind, storage,
geothermal, electrolysis,

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are all becoming
cheaper quickly.

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They're all cleaner
technologies.

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But they are fundamentally
different technologies

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than the fossil fuel
system that we've

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built our civilization on.

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So we need to build about 47
times more solar, about 28

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times more wind than we've
built in the last 40 years,

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to basically provide enough
energy to decarbonize

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our energy system.

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That gives you a very
lengthy to do list,

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but an exciting to do
list for your careers.

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Your to do list includes
financing, generation,

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transmission, distributing
power, balancing power,

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making sure that
power is reliable,

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making sure that the energy
systems are resilient,

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and siting these
energy resources.

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Last time we talked
about wind basics.

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We talked about capacity
factors as a key concept

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to understand intermittency.

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Today we're going to
talk about solar basics.

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And we're going to
use solar technologies

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as an example of adoption
costs, or learning curves,

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and siting issues.

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And the next lecture, we'll talk
about storage and geothermal.

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Those are technologies that
are developing new niches

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in the energy system, and may be
critical building blocks going

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forward, but haven't
quite developed

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into the same kind of
competitive technology

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that solar and wind have become.

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So just to review
basically, here's

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a diagram from MacKay's book.

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This is a solar, basically
converts incident

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light on the Earth into energy.

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Of course, you have
to capture the portion

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of the electromagnetic
energy in the ray.

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And so this diagram simply
shows that at the equator,

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you capture the full amount of
the energy landing in Nairobi

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with a horizontally-mounted
ground panel,

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a panel simply lying
flat on the ground.

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Whereas at 52 degrees latitude,
Cambridge, United Kingdom,

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or Cambridge,
Massachusetts, are the same,

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you actually only capture
about 60% of the energy

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because a 52 degree angle
doesn't capture the full ray

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energy of the
electromagnetic energy,

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or the sunlight
falling on the Earth.

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Helpfully, however, as
this last line points out,

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52 degrees is about the
pitch of a roof angle.

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So if you lay solar panels
flat on a roof in Cambridge,

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Massachusetts, and
those are pointed

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in the direction of the sun,
predominantly South, coming

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from the South in the
northern hemisphere,

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then you can capture the full
amount of the solar energy

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falling on the roof.

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This is why we have different
maps for solar resources.

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This is a map of the global
horizontal irradiation.

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This is the amount of
energy you would capture

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if you laid a solar panel
simply down on the ground flat

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facing up at the sky.

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As you can see,
around the equator,

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there are relatively
high amounts

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of global horizontal radiation.

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And, of course, slightly
off the equator,

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you also get a lot of
global horizontal radiation

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probably due to climate.

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This map probably incorporates
not only climate, but also

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the level of radiation that's
measured in these places.

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For the direct,
normal irradiation,

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this is how much
energy you'd capture

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if you laid a solar panel
at the precise angle

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to capture the maximum
amount of irradiation.

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And you can see that it's
a much more balanced view.

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This probably includes
climate, probably includes

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weather conditions,
but actually is based

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on empirical measurements.

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And you can see that
there, solar is actually

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a resource that's spread
fairly well around the world,

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especially closer
to the equator.

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The northern, southern
hemispheres also

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have abundant solar potential.

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So if you look at the total
photovoltaic power potential,

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again, a good
message from this map

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is that photovoltaic power is
evenly spread across the world.

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It can be accessed
in many countries.

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Quite importantly, it can be
accessed in parts of countries,

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depending on climate, depending
on incident solar radiation.

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And, of course, we can also
use solar tracking devices

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because the sun
tends to come low

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from the south in the
northern hemisphere,

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you might have a
house that's not

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pointed in the right direction.

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It may not be pointed East West.

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You may want a rooftop facing
to the South where the sun is.

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As the sun comes over
at different portions

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of the year-- it's higher in
the sky in the summer and lower

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in the sky in the winter--

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you may want a
solar collector that

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actually has different
angles, angles

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that can tilt to capture
this seasonal variation

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between summer and winter, and
may even tilt as the sun moves

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throughout the sky.

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So that's a two axis
solar tracking panel.

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Another technology that could
be used to capture solar energy

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is called concentrated
solar power.

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This is a CSP plant, or
a solar thermal tower.

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This is Crescent Dunes
in the American West.

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This is actually
10,000 heliostats.

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These are those tracking
mirrors I showed you.

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But instead of tracking
the sun directly,

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what these mirrors are doing
are actually tracking the sun,

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reflecting the sun
to this one point,

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and super heating
up a fluid here

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that's used to drive
a steam turbine.

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So these 10,000 mirrors
are moving in concert,

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are all moving differently,
all concentrating the sun

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on this one point to
superheat the site

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and create superheated liquid
or steam to drive a turbine

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to create energy.

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Of course, what we're going
to talk about mostly today

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is much humbler,
smaller technology.

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It's the solar
photovoltaic panel.

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A utility-scale solar
array is composed

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of many of these
modules, a rooftop

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on a residential installation,
or in a, let's say,

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camping cabin would probably
be based on one standard panel.

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This is a solar
panel installation

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on top of a big box store.

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But solar panels are
fundamentally modular.

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They can be deployed
in different ways.

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And we're going to spend most
of our time talking today

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about why solar photovoltaics,
that modular technology,

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has gotten cheap much faster
than other technologies.

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And so if you look at the
fundamental cell efficiency,

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this is how efficiently a solar
cell converts incident energy

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to electricity.

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This is what's called the
champion graph that NREL does.

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Every year, they
update this graph.

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And you can see
steadily, there are

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these different trajectories
of different technologies.

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The technologies are
all in upper left.

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They range from
multi junction cells

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to crystalline silicon
cells, to emerging

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photovoltaic technologies.

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You can see these technologies
have all developed over time

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and gotten better.

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The best research
cell efficiency

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is 47% conversion of incident
sunlight into electricity.

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But your average
solar panel that's

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deployed on most solar arrays
ranges from 20% to 25%.

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What MacKay says in
his book, that he'd

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be shocked if there's better
research cell, or better

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efficiencies.

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Efficiencies have
gone up over time.

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But that's not the key story
I want to focus on today.

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It's the fact that solar
panels have gotten much cheaper

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much more quickly, even
though the research

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efficiency, or the efficiency
of most solar panels

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sold has stayed relatively
constant, around 20%.

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So if you look at-- this
graph from the BP Statistical

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Review of World Energy.

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It shows the share of global
electricity generation by fuel.

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And you can see that oil and
coal and hydroelectricity

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are all relatively flat.

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Natural gas has trended up.

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But the one that's quite
remarkably trending up

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is renewables.

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And renewables is
trending up both in terms

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of wind and solar.

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If you look on the right-hand
graph and renewables

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as a share of power
generation by region,

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in every single
region of the world,

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renewables seem to be on this
very steep, increasing curve.

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That curve is
reminiscent of this

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putting of what's called
a cumulative distribution

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function.

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And this is basically simply
a sum of a bell curve.

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And you get this S curve by
summing up the bell curve.

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So using different
parameters for the mean

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or the standard deviation,
you get different steepness

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of S curves between this
mustard-colored curve

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and this green curve.

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And so just to point out how
that is the sum of these bell

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curves, those
S-shaped curves come

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from these green, and mustard,
and blue, and red bell curves.

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The reason why this is
important is because this

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is an idea about how
innovations diffuse,

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that you may have
seen this famous curve

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called the diffusion
of innovations

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curve that was coined
by Everett Rogers.

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And you may have heard
this phrase, "innovators

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and early adopters."

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And he adopts this idea of a
bell curve of different people

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or different organizations
willing to adopt technologies

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in different ways.

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There's innovators and early
adopters who are first.

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There's an early majority, late
majority, and there's laggers.

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And if you take this bell curve
of behaviors and add it up,

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you get this distribution,
this S-shaped distribution

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of adoption.

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And that's really what we
want to talk about today

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because if you look at
this S-shaped curve,

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this is a curve from
a New York Times

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article by Nicholas Felton.

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And you can see
that our adoption

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of different technologies
over the last century

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have essentially followed
this S-shaped curve.

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We have electricity which has a
kind of bump here in the 1920s,

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but looks roughly S-shaped.

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You see rapid adoption
of refrigerators.

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You see rapid
adoption of color TVs.

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And the point of this
column by Nicholas Felton

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a number of years ago
was that these curves get

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increasingly steep over time.

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Of course, we can't assume
that this is a causal process,

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or this is a inevitable
or ineluctable process.

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Obviously, some of
these technologies

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like clothes, dryers,
microwaves, color TVs, cell

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phones, computers,
VCRs, could only

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exist if electricity
existed beforehand.

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You see the track
of the telephone

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has a much more mixed,
not S-shaped curve.

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So we shouldn't assume
that a S-shaped curve is

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inevitable or
ineluctable, we obviously

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have to do things to
adopt these technologies.

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The progress of our
technologies may not

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be completely
predictable or linear.

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But the point I want to
make about solar power

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is that solar power has
declined by price by about 90%

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in the last 10 years.

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This is, again, that graph
from Our World in Data.

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And the key point of this being
part of your renewable toolbox

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is that you want to
work with technologies

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that are getting cheaper and
also happen to be cleaner.

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So if you look at all
the energy or electricity

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generating technologies
on this graph,

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again, nuclear's
gotten more expensive.

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Coal stayed relatively flat.

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Gas has gotten cheaper, but not
as quickly as solar power has

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gotten cheaper.

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Solar thermal towers, the
concentrating solar technology

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I showed you a few
slides ago, that kind

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of awesome installation
in the desert,

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though it's awesome
in how it looks,

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it has not necessarily
gone cheap as quick

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as the humble solar panel.

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And, also, of
course, onshore wind

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has declined rapidly over time.

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And, again, if you
look at these curves,

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you can see that lithium
ion batteries since 1992

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are also steeply
decreasing in price.

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And I think I said
in the last lecture

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that this is called
the learning rate.

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For every doubling in
cumulative capacity,

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price has declined
an average of 18.9%.

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Solar technologies,
electrolyzers,

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are also following
a very rapid curve.

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And, again, the key
point is that, yes,

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coal is a dirty fuel.

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But nuclear is also a low
carbon or clean resource.

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I would argue that
nuclear will probably

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be a critical or important
firm resource for the future.

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But the problem is, our existing
ways of building nuclear power

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plants have only gotten
more expensive over time.

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They've not demonstrated
any learning rate,

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whereas solar photovoltaics
have a learning rate of 36%.

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Offshore wind has a
learning rate of 10%.

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Onshore wind has a
learning rate of 23%.

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And lithium ion
batteries, which are

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crucial to electrifying
vehicles and all

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of our electronic devices,
have a learning rate of 19%.

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You can perhaps,
if not count on it,

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assume that some of
these learning rates

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will continue in the near
future that will only

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make these technologies more
competitive in the near future.

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And so a key question is, why
have the solar prices declined?

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This is a topic that
my colleague Jessika

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Trancik at MIT has studied.

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And she studied in a 2016
paper all the various factors

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leading to these
declines in solar prices,

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or this learning rate.

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And it's also
important to point out

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that, as the
Nicholas Felton graph

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I showed you a few
slides ago, it's

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not necessarily
ineluctable, or inevitable,

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or fated for all these
things to happen.

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But it is a little strange,
and it is a little weirdly

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wonderful how they follow a
fairly consistent pattern,

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even if different factors
are leading to these price

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declines.

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For example, in
Jessika Trancik's paper

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she decomposes the
sources of price decline

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from 1980 to 2001, from 2001 to
2012, and the overall effect.

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And so she finds that the
overall effect, the biggest

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contribution to solar prices
declining is the efficiency.

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Nonsilicon material
costs have also improved.

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Silicon prices
themselves have improved.

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The usage of silicon
has improved.

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The wafer areas have improved.

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Plant sizes have gotten bigger.

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The yields have gotten better.

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And there's been
slight impact on price.

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But you can see
from 1980 to 2001,

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and 2001, 2012, a lot of
these different factors

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play in at different times.

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In other words,
for some reason, we

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have these fairly steady
declines in solar,

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though they're not
completely linear when

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graphed on a logarithmic graph.

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But it's also weirdly wonderful
how all these different factors

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play together.

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And when one part
of the industry

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improved in one part
of the technology,

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other parts of industry were
then able to, let's say,

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improve others.

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For example, Germany
was a pioneer in solar

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until China pioneered
large-scale manufacturing

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of solar panels.

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If we break down
some of these changes

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and attribute them
to larger categories,

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you can see that there's
an overall effect

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of public and private research
and development funding.

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There are some effects
of learning by doing.

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The more you do something, the
better you learn how to do it.

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Economies of scale--
the more of something

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you build, it
actually gets cheaper

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if you build it in large
volumes, and other factors.

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But, again, between 1980
and 2001, and 2001, 2012,

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you actually see the really
different contributions

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from these different factors.

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And so another question
is, will solar prices

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continue to decline?

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And this is that
learning rate graph

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showing solar actual
asset costs by year.

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This is from a recent paper by
Way, Ives, Mealy and Farmer.

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And what's really entertaining
about this graph to me

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is that you can see the
different projections

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for solar costs.

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And the important
thing about this graph

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is that, in every single
case, the empirically-observed

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capacity cost has been lower
than the projected costs.

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In fact, for some reason, a lot
of integrated assessment models

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keep on projecting
that solar is not

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going to get cheaper faster.

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They have a shallower curve.

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But in reality, solar
has gotten much cheaper

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much more quickly than
anyone ever projected

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in the first place.

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The authors of this
paper argue and forecast

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that solar prices will
continue to get cheaper

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because they look at
other empirical cost

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declines over time.

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If you look at wind, wind has
been on a similar trajectory

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of decline.

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And in all of these
cases, many models

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keep on predicting that
wind is going to cost

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more than it actually has.

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So this leads to the question,
if solar and wind continue

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to get cheaper more
quickly than we expect,

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what might happen in
the energy transition?

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The authors of
this paper actually

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argue that there could be a fast
transition between clean energy

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and fossil fuels, a slow
transition, or no transition

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at all, where fossil fuels
remain in our energy system.

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And clean energy
simply adds to it.

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But they actually
argue that based

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on the probability of technical
and technological process,

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which could be low,
medium, or high,

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we'd actually save
quite a bit of energy

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if we had a fast
transition to renewables.

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That would actually result in
less costs in this scenario

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than it would if we continue
to use fossil fuels.

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And that's assuming
that solar and wind

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prices continue to get cheaper.

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If we have a slower,
medium transition,

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then we will still save money
over a no transition scenario.

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It just won't be as much.

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And it won't be as fast.

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If you look at some of
the price breakdowns

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of solar installation
costs, this

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is, again, the cost to actually
install and get solar running,

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you can see that NREL
did a study in 2015

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looking at benchmark prices
and price breakdowns.

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And you can see in a
lot of these cases,

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that residential, small
installations are much more

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expensive than commercial
large installations,

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or utility-scale installations.

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But when I point out to you
is that the actual hardware,

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the solar module, the inverter,
the rack, and the balance

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of system, are actually
not much different

00:18:47.560 --> 00:18:49.210 align:middle line:84%
between residential
and commercial

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and utility-scale installations.

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The panels are basically
the same panel.

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It might cost different amounts
to mount them and put them

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in a rack.

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But the costs are
not very different

00:19:00.130 --> 00:19:03.490 align:middle line:84%
between even a single solar
panel on a residential house

00:19:03.490 --> 00:19:05.530 align:middle line:90%
versus utility-scale solar.

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The big difference is
between the soft costs.

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The labor is slightly higher to
install on a residential house,

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probably because we
haven't achieved economies

00:19:14.230 --> 00:19:16.250 align:middle line:90%
of scale or large volumes.

00:19:16.250 --> 00:19:19.150 align:middle line:84%
But the soft costs
are a big difference.

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Why residential?

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Rooftop solar is
much more expensive

00:19:22.330 --> 00:19:24.400 align:middle line:90%
than utility-scale solar.

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And so if I had to urge
urban planners in cities

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to work on one problem, I would
argue that if we were to--

00:19:31.370 --> 00:19:34.660 align:middle line:84%
if we were able to decrease
the soft cost of installation,

00:19:34.660 --> 00:19:38.170 align:middle line:84%
then rooftop solar could be
competitive with utility-scale

00:19:38.170 --> 00:19:40.860 align:middle line:90%
solar installations.

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And so NREL also
did a study in 2018,

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showing a road map to achieving
cheaper solar electricity.

00:19:48.630 --> 00:19:51.815 align:middle line:84%
This shows the 2017
real levelized cost

00:19:51.815 --> 00:19:53.190 align:middle line:84%
of energy, something
we've talked

00:19:53.190 --> 00:19:55.030 align:middle line:90%
about in this class before.

00:19:55.030 --> 00:19:59.280 align:middle line:84%
This shows what the goal
is, $0.05 per kilowatt hour

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for a residential PV system.

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And it shows that the
roadmap for cheaper rooftop

00:20:05.730 --> 00:20:07.950 align:middle line:84%
or residential
solar goes entirely

00:20:07.950 --> 00:20:09.340 align:middle line:90%
through soft cost reduction.

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This is a waterfall
diagram again.

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You can see all the things
you can do to get to the goal.

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But, obviously, the
bulk of the savings

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comes from reducing soft cost.

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That's reducing permitting.

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That's reducing design costs.

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That's reducing
design complexity.

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It's making permitting
easier at city hall.

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If urban planners
and policy makers

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were to focus their
attention on this,

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we could have equally
cheap rooftop solar.

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And that would probably
not have the same land-use

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impacts as utility-scale solar.

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Now, let's go to
the MacKay graphs

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for a second, MacKay
papers for a second,

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because I think they
usually show points

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about the energy density
per area required

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for renewable technologies.

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This brings us into
talking about siting.

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This is a graph of a vertical
axis and energy consumption

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per person the population
density of people

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per square kilometer.

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And you can see, the
world has generally

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in the last two centuries,
both consumed more energy

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and gotten more dense.

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The United States had
higher energy consumption

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at the beginning and
lower population densities

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than the world.

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Developing countries
tend to have

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lower energy consumption and
higher population densities.

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England, over the
last four centuries,

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has gotten to very high
energy consumption per person,

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though not as high as
the US, but much higher

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population densities
than the US.

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And what MacKay does is graph
simply where we are currently.

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This is the United States.

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And he uses this graph to
show that if you multiply

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these factors together, you can
get these kind of isoclines,

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or these gradient lines.

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And you can see that the
energy consumption of the US

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and the size of the circle is
the population of the country

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is basically approaching what
can be provided by energy

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crops, which is to
say, given this energy

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consumption per
person for the US,

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and given this
population density,

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we could supply all of our
energy needs with energy crops,

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assuming we use the entire
United States for energy crops.

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If we add other
possible technologies,

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you can see the limit for
wind power is further out.

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Of course, that would require
us to use much of the US

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for wind power.

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And the US has enough
energy density.

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So we would have to use the
entire country for wind power.

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But you can see
countries like Germany,

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the United Kingdom,
and Japan, are already

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at the limit for what
wind power can provide.

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South Korea does
not have enough land

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to provide all of its
energy through wind power.

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If you look at these
other technologies

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that MacKay discusses,
solar PV parks

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in sunny locations
or northern Europe

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are concentrating solar power.

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You can see that they
have lower energy--

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the higher energy densities
or lower land take.

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So the frontier gets
pushed further out.

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So for one of the
students from Singapore,

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he asked how much,
what technologies could

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we use to supply Singapore?

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You can see that it's
possible to use the UK

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sun before conversion--

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sorry, and the desert
sun before conversion.

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Those are things that
the population and energy

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consumption of Singapore
would fit into.

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Obviously, it's not
entirely possible to convert

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all of Singapore into
energy production.

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But this gives you a back
of the envelope estimate

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of how much energy,
or how much land you

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need to provide that energy.

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And so this brings
me to the paper

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by Carley et al 2020,
which focuses on energy

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infrastructure and NIMBY-ism.

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And let's just start with what
is a systematic literature

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review.

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A systematic
literature review is

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a paper where you set particular
search terms and parameters.

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You extract the relevant
academic literature.

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The reason why you do this
kind of literature search

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is that there's just too
much literature to read.

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So we occasionally write
papers to summarize

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what's been written.

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And then you code and
analyze and summarize

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all the papers you find.

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And you categorize the
vital data they use,

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what kind of methods and
findings they come to.

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And so the findings of
this particular systematic

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literature review is
that on page 1 they say,

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knowledge, trust, and
positive perceptions

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of the benefits of
projects are positively

00:24:19.230 --> 00:24:21.450 align:middle line:84%
correlated with support
for projects with variation

00:24:21.450 --> 00:24:22.950 align:middle line:90%
across energy types.

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They actually say that we don't
focus on the positive aspects

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of energy projects enough.

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And our study of energy
infrastructure and often

00:24:30.360 --> 00:24:33.360 align:middle line:84%
NIMBY-ism were often focused
on some of the drawbacks

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of these policies.

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And people ask, or asked
in survey literature,

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much more about the drawbacks.

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And so, and also they
find in this paper

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that in our assessment,
it's not clear that NIMBY--

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which stands for "Not
In My Backyard"--

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traditionally defined is
often being evaluated.

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At best, we have a set of
inconsistent findings regarding

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the weight that people give
to the proximity of energy

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infrastructure.

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And, finally, they say on page
13 the high rates of support

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or found literature
may seem to contradict

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what is often portrayed
as significant opposition.

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And so this leads us to the
question, how much opposition

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is there really to
energy infrastructure?

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Do we actually have
significant opposition

00:25:15.260 --> 00:25:16.430 align:middle line:90%
to energy infrastructure?

00:25:16.430 --> 00:25:18.770 align:middle line:84%
We have a million anecdotes
about this happening

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in many places.

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But this paper is trying to
get at the existing survey

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literature, summarizing
a lot of papers,

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trying to understand, what
is the actual opposition?

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Does it actually fit
into our definition

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of "not in my
backyard" sentiments?

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And so I like this graph.

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Actually it's in this
paper quite a bit.

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It's a way of
summarizing the papers.

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They look at these
independent variables,

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whether or not
they're considered

00:25:45.040 --> 00:25:47.440 align:middle line:84%
in the literature,
terms of knowledge,

00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:50.620 align:middle line:84%
gender, trust,
benefits of energy,

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and drawbacks of
energy infrastructure.

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And they look at the total
portfolio of energy types.

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Total portfolio--
and then that's

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composed of wind, solar, nuclear
power plants, fossil fuels,

00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:03.220 align:middle line:84%
and transmission and
distribution lines.

00:26:03.220 --> 00:26:06.010 align:middle line:84%
And the red, yellow,
and blue columns

00:26:06.010 --> 00:26:10.300 align:middle line:84%
represent percent of papers
that include this factor,

00:26:10.300 --> 00:26:12.820 align:middle line:84%
the percent of papers that
find it to be statistically

00:26:12.820 --> 00:26:15.040 align:middle line:84%
significant, and the
percent of papers that find

00:26:15.040 --> 00:26:17.048 align:middle line:90%
it to have a positive effect.

00:26:17.048 --> 00:26:19.090 align:middle line:84%
So what's important to
note from this graph, what

00:26:19.090 --> 00:26:21.940 align:middle line:84%
I want to point out,
is that wind, solar,

00:26:21.940 --> 00:26:24.040 align:middle line:84%
nuclear, fossil fuels,
and transmission lines

00:26:24.040 --> 00:26:29.060 align:middle line:84%
have very different profiles
in terms of who supports it.

00:26:29.060 --> 00:26:31.510 align:middle line:84%
Not many researchers
have considered

00:26:31.510 --> 00:26:35.210 align:middle line:84%
asking people about their actual
knowledge of wind projects.

00:26:35.210 --> 00:26:37.480 align:middle line:84%
But if you include
a gender variable,

00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.230 align:middle line:84%
you'll often find that one
gender, I'm guessing female,

00:26:41.230 --> 00:26:44.723 align:middle line:84%
is actually quite
supportive of wind projects.

00:26:44.723 --> 00:26:47.140 align:middle line:84%
Not all the papers find this
as statistically significant.

00:26:47.140 --> 00:26:50.380 align:middle line:84%
But almost all the papers
find this support of gender

00:26:50.380 --> 00:26:54.410 align:middle line:84%
to be a very strong factor
in supporting wind power.

00:26:54.410 --> 00:26:56.050 align:middle line:84%
If you look at a
different technology,

00:26:56.050 --> 00:27:00.490 align:middle line:84%
let's say, nuclear technology,
only about half of the papers

00:27:00.490 --> 00:27:03.760 align:middle line:84%
asked people their actual
knowledge of nuclear power.

00:27:03.760 --> 00:27:05.590 align:middle line:84%
Only about 50% of
papers find it to be

00:27:05.590 --> 00:27:06.860 align:middle line:90%
statistically significant.

00:27:06.860 --> 00:27:10.390 align:middle line:84%
And, actually, they find that
knowledge of nuclear power

00:27:10.390 --> 00:27:15.520 align:middle line:84%
is quite positively correlated
with support for nuclear power.

00:27:15.520 --> 00:27:18.730 align:middle line:84%
At the same, time if you
include gender, almost 100%

00:27:18.730 --> 00:27:20.380 align:middle line:90%
of the papers include gender.

00:27:20.380 --> 00:27:22.790 align:middle line:84%
2/3 of them find to be
statistically significant.

00:27:22.790 --> 00:27:26.380 align:middle line:84%
And they don't find a strong
positive effect of gender

00:27:26.380 --> 00:27:28.660 align:middle line:90%
sentiment about nuclear power.

00:27:28.660 --> 00:27:30.580 align:middle line:84%
What I'm trying to
point out this graph

00:27:30.580 --> 00:27:34.210 align:middle line:84%
is that all of these factors,
knowledge, gender, trust,

00:27:34.210 --> 00:27:38.060 align:middle line:84%
benefits, and drawbacks,
have different profiles.

00:27:38.060 --> 00:27:39.940 align:middle line:84%
Some of these
technologies like solar

00:27:39.940 --> 00:27:43.000 align:middle line:84%
have extremely
positive correlations

00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.970 align:middle line:84%
with the benefits
of solar power,

00:27:45.970 --> 00:27:48.250 align:middle line:84%
whereas the drawbacks are
quite often asked about

00:27:48.250 --> 00:27:50.380 align:middle line:84%
and have very little
difference in how

00:27:50.380 --> 00:27:52.210 align:middle line:90%
people feel about solar power.

00:27:52.210 --> 00:27:54.710 align:middle line:84%
What I encourage you to do
is just look at this graph.

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Look at these different
factors on the top.

00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:58.360 align:middle line:90%
Look at the energy technologies.

00:27:58.360 --> 00:28:01.630 align:middle line:84%
And think about how you might
appeal to different people

00:28:01.630 --> 00:28:03.490 align:middle line:84%
to support different
technologies.

00:28:03.490 --> 00:28:08.500 align:middle line:84%
Obviously, the profile
for fossil fuels

00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:11.050 align:middle line:84%
is quite different than the
profile for transmission

00:28:11.050 --> 00:28:12.410 align:middle line:90%
and distribution lines.

00:28:12.410 --> 00:28:15.310 align:middle line:84%
And so we should think
about this research,

00:28:15.310 --> 00:28:16.930 align:middle line:84%
and think about how
to use it to get

00:28:16.930 --> 00:28:19.420 align:middle line:84%
people to support these
different technologies that we

00:28:19.420 --> 00:28:21.120 align:middle line:90%
do need.

00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:23.060 align:middle line:84%
So another paper I
want to talk about

00:28:23.060 --> 00:28:26.270 align:middle line:84%
is written by my colleague
Larry Susskind at MIT.

00:28:26.270 --> 00:28:29.090 align:middle line:84%
It's just written this year
about sources of opposition

00:28:29.090 --> 00:28:30.650 align:middle line:90%
to renewable energy.

00:28:30.650 --> 00:28:33.880 align:middle line:84%
And to summarize this
paper, a team of students--

00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:35.630 align:middle line:84%
many students I know
from our department--

00:28:35.630 --> 00:28:37.640 align:middle line:84%
helped build this
database of opposition

00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.180 align:middle line:90%
to renewable energy projects.

00:28:40.180 --> 00:28:43.870 align:middle line:84%
And they did this by reviewing
open access media reports

00:28:43.870 --> 00:28:46.810 align:middle line:84%
and published scholarship
to identify instances

00:28:46.810 --> 00:28:48.910 align:middle line:84%
in which conflict or
opposition paused,

00:28:48.910 --> 00:28:51.700 align:middle line:84%
delayed, or canceled a
utility-scale renewable energy

00:28:51.700 --> 00:28:52.690 align:middle line:90%
project.

00:28:52.690 --> 00:28:54.460 align:middle line:84%
There were media
reports on projects

00:28:54.460 --> 00:28:57.250 align:middle line:84%
that had been defeated,
including some concerns

00:28:57.250 --> 00:29:00.400 align:middle line:84%
about these projects that did
not lead to stoppage or delay.

00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:02.750 align:middle line:84%
They did not include
these in their study.

00:29:02.750 --> 00:29:04.570 align:middle line:84%
So essentially what
they did is they

00:29:04.570 --> 00:29:06.130 align:middle line:84%
went and looked
at media reports,

00:29:06.130 --> 00:29:08.410 align:middle line:84%
and looked for projects
in which there actually

00:29:08.410 --> 00:29:11.900 align:middle line:90%
had been delays or opposition.

00:29:11.900 --> 00:29:13.790 align:middle line:84%
What they find in
this database, they

00:29:13.790 --> 00:29:18.980 align:middle line:84%
find 53 projects equivalent
to 9,586 megawatts

00:29:18.980 --> 00:29:20.370 align:middle line:90%
that were affected.

00:29:20.370 --> 00:29:23.090 align:middle line:84%
They find that 34% of the
projects were delayed.

00:29:23.090 --> 00:29:25.580 align:middle line:84%
50% of the projects were
canceled permanently.

00:29:25.580 --> 00:29:28.940 align:middle line:84%
And 26% of the
projects were resumed

00:29:28.940 --> 00:29:32.030 align:middle line:84%
after being stopped for
several months or years.

00:29:32.030 --> 00:29:33.860 align:middle line:84%
In terms of the
energy transition,

00:29:33.860 --> 00:29:35.960 align:middle line:84%
this is a very
concerning finding

00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.960 align:middle line:84%
because we know we need to
build solar and wind much more

00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:42.020 align:middle line:84%
rapidly than in the past to
achieve our decarbonization

00:29:42.020 --> 00:29:44.150 align:middle line:90%
goals.

00:29:44.150 --> 00:29:46.070 align:middle line:84%
And they have seven
distinct hypotheses

00:29:46.070 --> 00:29:48.650 align:middle line:84%
regarding the sources of
opposition and barriers

00:29:48.650 --> 00:29:50.840 align:middle line:90%
to renewable energy development.

00:29:50.840 --> 00:29:54.170 align:middle line:84%
First, communities could
be expressing concerns

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about possible
environmental impacts,

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including impacts on wildlife.

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There could be challenges to
project financing and revenue

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generation.

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There could be
public perceptions

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of unfair
participation processes

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or inadequate inclusion in light
of regulatory requirements.

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There could be a
failure to respect

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tribal rights, including
the right to consultation.

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There could be health
and safety concerns.

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The intergovernmental disputes.

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And there could be potential
impacts on land and property

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value.

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In the paper, one of the
notable findings, I think,

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is that they find that
most opposition to projects

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is not composed of a single
source of opposition.

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As they characterize
it, only 20%

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of the sources of opposition
have one rationale

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or one basis for opposition.

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Most projects represent multiple
concerns or multiple sources

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of opposition, or a
collision of different groups

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that may be opposed
to the project.

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Now, this is a very
concerning finding

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in terms of what
we are going to be

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able to site in terms of
our future renewable energy

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projects.

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But one thing I actually
noticed about this paper

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is that I actually thought back
to other studies I've seen.

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This is a graph from the
US Energy Information

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Administration.

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And this actually shows how
much generation capacity we've

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added over the last 22 years.

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In 1990, you can see that our
energy, our renewable energy

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generation is actually dominated
by hydroconventional and

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hydropumped storage.

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Even by 2005, we had very little
wind and very little solar.

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And by 2021, 16 years
later, we basically

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had this massive
explosion of wind,

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and this very rapid explosion
of solar that is probably

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only increasing this year also.

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But what I realized
when I calculated

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this is that you
had this question

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about whether the findings of
this paper are generalizable.

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The Susskind et al
paper finds 53 projects

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over the years 2008 to 2021.

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And that basically
is 9,586 megawatts,

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which is 9.6 gigawatts.

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But from that graph
I just showed you,

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the Energy Information
Administration

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finds roughly over the same
period of time 2005 to 2021,

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that we added 185 gigawatts.

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So if you calculate
the percentage,

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essentially the
Susskind paper is

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looking at 5% of the projects.

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And so there's three
perhaps stupid questions

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that we need to ask about
this question of permitting

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and sources of opposition
to renewable energy.

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First, how big is the
problem of permitting?

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If these opposition sources
are expressing themselves

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through denying
permits for projects,

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we can find 5% of the projects
have been blocked or opposed,

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does that mean that our other
185 gigawatts of projects that

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were built, could we have
had another 185 gigawatts

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of projects if 50% of the
projects were canceled?

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Or do we find in this
case the projects that

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were canceled or opposed, and
the vast majority of projects

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are actually built without
as much controversy?

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And so this brings me to the
question of permitting reform,

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which we started the class,
which is discussed quite a bit

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in Congress, and we in class.

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How pervasive is this problem?

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And, finally, are
the future problems

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we're going to have around
sources of opposition

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or permitting similar to
the past problems that have

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been found in this database?

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Those are all open
questions for us

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to consider in class discussion.

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I look forward to seeing
you in class tomorrow.

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