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DAVID HSU: My name is David Hsu.

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I'm a professor of Urban
Studies and Planning at MIT.

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And this is another
installment of my lecture

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series on urban energy
systems and policies.

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Today, we're going to talk
about renewable energy.

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And we've been talking in
this class about consumption,

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how we consume energy in
our personal transportation

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and our buildings and our
consumption of material goods,

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quite often produced by
industrial manufacturing

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processes.

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And I've emphasized
in the class that we

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need to make all those uses
more efficient in order

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for us to help
decarbonize cities.

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But now it's time for
us to turn to talking

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about renewable energy,
the fundamental building

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blocks that'll enable
cities to transition

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from their current energy
sources, which mostly depend

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on fossil fuels, to renewable
energy sources that will help

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cities decarbonize and avoid the
worst consequences of climate

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change.

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So today, in the first part
I'll talk about wind energy.

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The materials for today, if you
have the PDF or hard copies,

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you can click on
these pink links,

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and they'll take you to
the various resources.

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These are the materials
we'll be discussing today.

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And just to refresh our
memory where we are,

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these are, again, the
decarbonization pathways

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from the Williams et al.

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2021 paper.

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This is the 100%
renewable energy scenario.

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So on the left-hand side
of the Sankey diagram,

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you can see that all of
our primary energy sources

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are essentially decarbonized,
renewable energy sources,

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solar, wind, and biomass
being the three largest

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sources of energy.

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And what I want to
emphasize in this class

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is that we're going to--
or the next few classes

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is we're going to talk about
your renewable toolbox.

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Like, I define sustainable
energy or sustainable

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production of energy as
categories of wind, solar,

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hydropower, wave power,
hydropower, geothermal power,

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and MacKay gives nuclear a
question mark because it's not

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clear whether or not--

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it's not clear to
MacKay and still to me

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whether nuclear power
counts as sustainable.

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But what I want to emphasize
with your renewable toolbox--

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and we're going to
develop this theme

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in the next few lectures-- is
that it has become increasingly

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cheap, increasingly clean, but
these fundamental technologies

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require transitioning
our energy system

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and how it works,
because they work

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in different ways in our
existing fossil fuel resources.

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And so just to give a definition
of renewable resources,

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why we are focused on
particular technologies,

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there are technologies
that derive energy

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from natural
processes, they can be

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regenerative over
short periods of time,

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and they will not be depleted.

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We can talk about
whether or not renewables

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are defined as clean,
net zero, or carbon-free.

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All these definitions or
these various descriptors

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have slightly
different meanings.

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And of course, I
want to emphasize

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energy efficiency is
also necessary for us

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to achieve decarbonization.

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The 100% renewable scenario I
showed you in the last slide

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and from the Williams
et al. papers

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and many-- most of
the decarbonization

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studies all emphasize
the fact that we

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can't build renewable
resources as fast as we need

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to to meet our
mid-century goal, so it's

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going to be necessary to
use energy efficiency.

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And that can be the
technologies, products,

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services, or changes in
behaviors or expectations

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that reduce the energy required
for certain processes or tasks

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or services.

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And we also talked about
that a few lectures ago.

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And the other thing
I want to emphasize

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about your renewable
toolbox is that it

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has different limitations.

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We have to think about key
factors or key categories

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of problems to solve.

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First, there's the total
potential of renewable energy

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that we can achieve in a
meaningful period of time.

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Second, as you may have heard,
many renewable technologies

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may be intermittent in terms
of how they derive energy

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from natural processes.

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And something I've
emphasized in this class

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and I think is particularly
relevant to cities and land use

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is, how much land use or how
much land take is required

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to build renewable resources?

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Renewable resources are
quite often less energy dense

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than fossil fuel energy systems.

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But just to give you a
sense of the intermittency

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or what the kind of sources of
energy for wind and solar look

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like, there's a few kind
of fun visualizations

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I'll click on here in a moment.

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If we look at the wind right
now across the United States,

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that first link takes us to this
wind map that you can see here.

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You can see that the wind
has a directionality.

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It's concentrated
in some places,

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quite clearly blowing in the
Mountain West and the Midwest

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and Texas much more than it
is here on the East Coast

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where I'm recording this video.

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If we look at the
global map of wind,

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you can also see
something very different.

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You can see that the wind is
much stronger over the oceans

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than it is over the land.

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This is a pretty neat
little visualization.

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You can actually see
any part of the world

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and see where the wind is.

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And of course,
these little vectors

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and these kind of
field vectors show you

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that there may be a storm
off of, I think, Mexico here.

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There may be some very strong
winds in the upper North

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Atlantic.

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But you can see in
almost all the cases

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that the wind is much stronger
offshore than it is onshore,

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and that'll be a key theme
we'll talk about today.

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So just going back to our
slides on wind, again,

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to emphasize that your renewable
toolbox is going to require

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deploying these at scale.

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It's going to require us to
essentially build a new energy

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system to avoid climate change.

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And so we just want to
focus on this building

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block for a second
and the challenges.

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Our first building block
is going to be solar.

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I'll talk about how
solar technologies have

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become drastically cheaper
in the next lecture.

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But we have to build
approximately 47 times

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more solar in the
United States to achieve

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our mid-century goals.

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Wind as another building block,
that has been very successful.

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Probably our highest amount of
capacity of renewable energy

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comes from wind right now.

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We still have to
actually increase

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the amount we've built by
28 times over what we've

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built over the last 40 years.

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And storage, geothermal,
and electrolysis,

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that can be used
to create hydrogen

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from renewable resources.

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Those are fundamentally
the building blocks

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that are going to be part
of your renewable toolbox.

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But I want to emphasize
this toolbox is probably

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the toolbox you'll be using
for much of your careers.

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And to your credit or to your
advantage, all these building

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blocks have gotten
increasingly cheap over time,

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will probably get
cheaper over time.

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All you have to figure
out in your careers is--

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I'll give you a to-do
list for your careers.

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All you have to do
is figure out how

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to finance these new
technologies, which sometimes

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have higher upfront costs.

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All you have to do
is figure out how

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to install the capacity, the 47
times more solar, 28 times more

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wind to generate
electricity or energy.

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You have to figure out how to
transmit this power across--

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from the places that it's
generated to the places

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that it's needed.

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You have to figure
out how to distribute

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this power within cities.

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You have to figure out
how to balance this power

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across the grid, because
electricity can not

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very easily be stored, though
we'll talk about storage.

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You have to figure out how to
balance the system so that when

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you're generating power in one
part of the continental US,

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like you saw the wind
blowing in the Mountain West,

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it can be consumed elsewhere,
like on the West Coast.

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You have to figure out how
to make this grid reliable.

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You have to figure
out how to make

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this grid resilient in the face
of increasing climate changes.

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And of course, you have to site
all these resources and all

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these transmission lines.

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So again, your
renewable toolbox has

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some fundamentally really
interesting, really

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increasingly cheap and
cost-effective building blocks

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on the left-hand side.

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This is your to-do list
to build a new energy

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system on the right-hand side.

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So the agenda for
our next few classes

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is going to emphasize a series
of different technologies.

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And I'll try to teach you a
series of different concepts

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that are useful to
think about the nature

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of those technologies.

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So today, we'll talk
about wind basics,

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and we'll use that to
illustrate capacity factors

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and the levelized
cost of energy.

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On the next lecture, we'll talk
about solar basics, including

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adoption costs, learning
curves, and siting issues.

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And then the third
lecture from now, we'll

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talk about storage
and geothermal

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as examples of how we
might develop new niches

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or new technologies in the
existing energy system.

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Renewable energy potential.

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What is it?

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There's a potential amount
of renewable resource

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that can be generated.

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If you want to see maps for
pretty much every country

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in the world or globally,
you can see the International

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Renewable Energy Agency.

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IRENA has a very good resource
of renewable energy potential

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studies.

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IRENA was founded in 2009.

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It's the agency specifically
focused on renewables.

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If you go to this link, you
can see potential studies.

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And they have 10,000 studies
on five major categories

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of renewables.

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And I think you can see which
countries have been studied

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for your papers for this class.

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So getting back to this graph,
I touched on this a little bit,

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I think, in the last lecture.

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The price of electricity
from new power plants

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has drastically
changed over time,

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a lot of these arrows in 2009.

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Nuclear has gotten
more expensive.

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Solar thermal has
decreased slightly.

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Coal power has not
changed at all.

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Natural gas peaking plants
and combined cycle plants

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have both decreased in the cost
of electricity for new power

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plants.

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But of course, the
two most drastic lines

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or the steepest
slopes on this chart

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is the price of electricity from
solar declining by about 90%

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over the last 10 years and
the price of onshore wind

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electricity declining by
70% over the last 10 years.

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Just, again, highlight that.

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The price of onshore, we'd
love to see it decline

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by 70% in the past 10 years.

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And we have a very large
installed base of wind.

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So just to look at
our wind basics,

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these are all graphs
from the Mackay chapter

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that you all read
for this class.

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Wind power is essentially
just taking a wind.

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You have some kind of volume
of air hits your wind turbine.

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It gets slightly displaced
by the obstacle of the wind

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turbine until it blows.

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And you're taking some amount
of energy out of the wind.

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This rule of thumb
in MacKay's book

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is that the wind turbines should
be about five diameters apart.

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I think that's probably changed.

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It has gotten more
sophisticated over time.

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Michael Howland, a
new faculty member

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in the Department
of Civil Engineering

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studies the operation
of wind turbine blades

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and how to optimize them.

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And of course, the important
point that MacKay makes

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is that the wind
speed changes versus

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the height off of the ground.

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You can see that the wind
speed comes quite a bit higher.

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And the power density that
you can extract from the wind

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goes up actually
nonlinearly off the ground.

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So in other words, the
bigger you make the turbine,

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the higher off the ground,
the more wind power is there,

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or the more wind speed is there.

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And the power density goes at a
nonlinear function of the wind

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speed so more power
can be extracted

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from this volume of air.

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That's going to be
a recurring theme

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as we look at wind
turbines and wind power

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and where it might go.

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Looking-- the Department of
Energy in the United States

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produces a land-based wind
market report in 2022.

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Here, they just
map the wind speed

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at 100 meters off the ground.

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They map it against
these different regions,

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which are tracked along
different regional transmission

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or intersystem--

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interconnected system operators.

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These are all different
regions of the electric grid.

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It's relevant
because wind is going

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to plug into regions of
the electric grid that

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are governed in different ways.

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But the most important
thing is that you

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can see that most of the
power, wind power, or the wind

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speed in the United States
is concentrated here

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in the middle part
of the country.

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That's concentrated in Texas.

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This is the region of
the Electric Reliability

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Council of Texas.

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The Southwest Power Pool
constitutes much of the Midwest

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here.

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And the Midcontinental
Intersystem Operator

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operates much in this
part of the Midwest.

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So our wind power is
clearly concentrated on land

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in the middle of our country.

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And if you look at the
wind market report,

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it's been exciting to track
it over the last few years

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because you can see
over the last few years,

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these are the cumulative
total capacity added.

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And the cumulative
total capacity

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has, of course, gone steadily
up over the last 22 years.

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But if you look at the
capacity additions,

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you can see that every
single year we're

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adding much more
capacity of wind power.

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In fact, until this
last year, until 2020,

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for four straight years
the capacity had increased.

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And you can see that almost
quite regularly we're

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starting to break records
for how much capacity

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we're adding in any given year.

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2021 slowed
slightly, but you can

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see that a lot of
this capacity is

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being added in certain
regions, and those

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are those three regions I
showed you the map before.

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Texas, the Southwest Power
Pool, and the Midcontinental

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Intersystem Operator.

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If you look at where wind stands
in our capacity additions,

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another exciting
part of the story

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is that this is from
the Wind Market report.

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It shows over years,
well, how much capacity?

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How much capacity are
we adding to the grid

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to generate electric power?

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You can see overwhelmingly
it is coming

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from wind, solar, and storage
over the last few years.

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Natural gas in light blue
has had some years of growth,

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but is steadily becoming a
smaller part of our capacity

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additions.

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Our capacity additions
to our electricity system

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are almost entirely
wind, solar, and storage.

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Wind for the first
time has, I think,

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fallen in the second
place from solar.

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It used to be--

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a few years here, it looked
like solar was actually larger,

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but now wind is clearly
in the second position.

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Solar is the biggest
capacity addition

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being added to the grid.

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This is the
capacity, the ability

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to generate power in gigawatts.

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That doesn't necessarily
mean that capacity

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is being used all the time,
which we will talk about when

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we talk about intermittency.

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But finally, if we look
at the different regions,

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again, wind is quite dominant
in the middle of the country,

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in the Southwest Power Pool,
in the Electric Reliability

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Council of Texas, and the
Midcontinental Intersystem

00:15:07.220 --> 00:15:08.160 align:middle line:90%
Operator.

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You can see all of these areas
are quite dominated by wind.

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Other parts of the
country are more

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dominated by solar
and natural gas.

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So just to give you an example
of what these offshore wind

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turbines look like, this is
actually a plane picture I took

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out of a plane window
when I was flying,

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I think, over the
North Sea in Europe.

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This is, I think, off
the coast of Holland.

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And this just gives
you a sense of what

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you can see from a plane.

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There's a little ship, probably
not a little ship sailing

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between these wind turbines.

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But these wind turbines
are simply offshore where

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we know more wind is blowing.

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I have to give you
another picture.

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This is a picture of offshore
wind turbines in Europe,

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which tends to have
shallower waters than the US.

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But you have-- it
looks like a ferry

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and you have a sailboat
sailing through.

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And the reason why it's exciting
to talk about wind offshore

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is that if you look at the
average wind speed above North

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America, you can
see that there is

00:16:11.710 --> 00:16:14.980 align:middle line:84%
this concentration of wind power
in the center of the country.

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But very importantly,
you actually

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have very high wind speeds
off the coast of the US.

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This probably doesn't go all
the way out into the ocean.

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This is probably just mapped
along the continental shelf.

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But you can see the
concentrations of wind

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are just as high, if not higher
than the middle of the country.

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But also, quite importantly,
these wind towers or wind

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potential are located very
close to the population centers

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of the US.

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We know most of the
population of the US

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is actually concentrated
along the coasts,

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and so it's important to be able
to generate renewable energy

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close to the populations
because it minimizes our need

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to transmit the power
through the grid.

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So we will need more
transmission lines for the grid

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also.

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So just to give you a sense
of what these floating wind

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turbines would look like
off the shore of the US,

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here's three different ways
of anchoring a floating wind

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turbine to the ocean floor.

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You have one that has this
big kind of counterweight

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to keep it upright.

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You have this kind of tripod
system with three anchors.

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And you have a
different tripod system,

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all meant to anchor
wind turbines offshore.

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Of course, just to give you a
sense of where this technical

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potential is located,
according to the NREL study,

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if you look at places that have
greater than seven meters per

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second wind speed, less
than 1,000 meters in depth,

00:17:39.150 --> 00:17:41.580 align:middle line:84%
less than 60 meters in
depth-- the Great Lakes--

00:17:41.580 --> 00:17:44.010 align:middle line:84%
and if you try to
avoid conflicting

00:17:44.010 --> 00:17:46.080 align:middle line:84%
use and environmental
exclusions,

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you can see that they
break each of these bars

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into the places where the water
depth is greater than 60 meters

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and less than 60 meters.

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And you can see
surprisingly that one

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of the largest states for
practical energy potential

00:17:58.590 --> 00:17:59.910 align:middle line:90%
is Massachusetts.

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And then Florida, and
then Texas, and so on.

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So these are all
offshore wind potentials

00:18:05.040 --> 00:18:07.020 align:middle line:84%
for different states,
but this is also

00:18:07.020 --> 00:18:09.360 align:middle line:84%
to give you a sense of
why it's so important

00:18:09.360 --> 00:18:12.870 align:middle line:84%
that Massachusetts is
pursuing offshore wind energy.

00:18:12.870 --> 00:18:15.090 align:middle line:84%
This is the chance
that Massachusetts

00:18:15.090 --> 00:18:18.780 align:middle line:84%
has to develop renewable
energy resources.

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In a highly dense area of the
country, a highly populated

00:18:23.220 --> 00:18:25.230 align:middle line:84%
area of the country
like Massachusetts,

00:18:25.230 --> 00:18:26.680 align:middle line:90%
we're not going to build--

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we're not going to be able
to build as much solar

00:18:28.740 --> 00:18:30.150 align:middle line:90%
as other parts of the country.

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And frankly, it's not very
sunny in Massachusetts

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compared to Arizona or Hawaii.

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So offshore wind
is probably going

00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:41.460 align:middle line:84%
to be our biggest opportunity
for building renewable energy.

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Now, what's really exciting
is if you look at the DOE,

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the US DOE also does an
offshore wind market report.

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Every year, I've
been updating this.

00:18:50.250 --> 00:18:52.280 align:middle line:84%
And so actually,
it's interesting

00:18:52.280 --> 00:18:54.320 align:middle line:84%
when you look at the
graphics in this report,

00:18:54.320 --> 00:18:57.260 align:middle line:84%
every year they change
because offshore wind

00:18:57.260 --> 00:18:59.300 align:middle line:84%
is growing, and
in fact, basically

00:18:59.300 --> 00:19:02.430 align:middle line:90%
exploding in its potential.

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So last year, I
think when I looked

00:19:04.580 --> 00:19:09.230 align:middle line:84%
at this map they had the entire
Atlantic coast was on one map.

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And there was, I think,
about 20 planned projects.

00:19:12.620 --> 00:19:17.600 align:middle line:84%
Now there's about 20, 31 planned
projects in the North Atlantic

00:19:17.600 --> 00:19:18.780 align:middle line:90%
alone.

00:19:18.780 --> 00:19:20.060 align:middle line:90%
They also-- actually, sorry.

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32 because they show Lake Erie
having a offshore wind project,

00:19:26.630 --> 00:19:28.100 align:middle line:90%
a freshwater wind project.

00:19:28.100 --> 00:19:30.320 align:middle line:90%
There's one all the way up in--

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off the coast of Maine.

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And you can see on
this graph that there's

00:19:34.070 --> 00:19:37.220 align:middle line:90%
about 32 planned wind projects.

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They all are in different
areas off the coast.

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You can see they occur at
different bathymetric depths.

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They are-- some of
them are leased.

00:19:46.130 --> 00:19:48.830 align:middle line:84%
Some of them are
dormant areas, but these

00:19:48.830 --> 00:19:52.940 align:middle line:84%
are all areas that have been
explored for offshore wind.

00:19:52.940 --> 00:19:55.580 align:middle line:84%
If you look the Pacific
Coast and the South Atlantic,

00:19:55.580 --> 00:19:57.680 align:middle line:84%
now they have separate
maps broken out just

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for these areas.

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You can see that on the
West Coast off of Oregon

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and California, there's
a number of offshore wind

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projects planned.

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There's offshore wind projects
planned off of Hawaii now

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and these in the South Atlantic.

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These are all areas
in the Gulf of Mexico.

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These are all areas
that weren't even mapped

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in the last offshore wind market
report from just last year.

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So clearly, this is an area
that is growing very rapidly.

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If we look at the pipeline
for offshore wind,

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the striking thing
about it to you

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should be this classification
from what we actually

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have operating, from
what's under construction,

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from what's financially
closed, what's been approved,

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what's waiting for
permitting, areas

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that are under site control, and
areas that are being planned.

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If you add all of
these parts up,

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you get the total pipeline
of offshore wind expected.

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What you should
notice about this

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is that we have about 40,000
megawatts of offshore wind

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that's in the pipeline.

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That's up from about 35,000
megawatts just last year alone.

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But the really
striking thing to you

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should be that of the 40,000
megawatts we have planned,

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we only have 42
megawatts operating.

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That's actually, I think,
exactly seven offshore wind

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turbines in the US right
now, five off of Rhode Island

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and two off of Virginia.

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That's all we have operating.

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When we go to
under construction,

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we're going to
effectively, I think,

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increase that by a factor of 20.

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A lot of that looks
like in Massachusetts.

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And we have very little
that's been financially closed

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and financially approved.

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But if you look the states that
are permitted offshore wind,

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it's New York, Massachusetts,
New Jersey, North Carolina,

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Virginia, Maryland.

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All up and down
the East Coast we

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have a lot of permitting,
a lot of permits that

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need to be expedited or need
to be achieved or approved

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for these projects
to go forward.

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In terms of areas
that have people,

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developers have
achieved site control,

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a large majority of that is
in New York and Massachusetts.

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And then in terms
of planning, we

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have quite a bit of planning
for offshore wind in California.

00:22:17.430 --> 00:22:21.330 align:middle line:84%
But again, if you add this whole
pipeline together of the 40,000

00:22:21.330 --> 00:22:24.090 align:middle line:84%
megawatts we have in
our total pipeline,

00:22:24.090 --> 00:22:29.850 align:middle line:84%
we only have 42 megawatts
operating, which is 0.1%.

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So we obviously have big
ambitions for offshore wind,

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but we haven't realized 99.9%
of the actual wind capacity yet.

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If you look at the states and
the wind pipeline by state,

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you can also think
about how this

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fits into the energy policies.

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Currently, quite a bit
of New York's potential

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is under site control, and
quite a bit is being permitted,

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and a very small portion
is under construction.

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And Massachusetts has less
total wind offshore pipeline,

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but has less under site
control, more in permitting,

00:23:07.420 --> 00:23:09.280 align:middle line:90%
and more under construction.

00:23:09.280 --> 00:23:12.340 align:middle line:84%
New Jersey is almost entirely
in the permitting phase,

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and so on and so on.

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But just to give you a sense
of how big these wind turbine

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blades are, this is a graphic
of the Haliade-X turbine,

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a new turbine introduced by
GE just a couple of years ago.

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And just to give
you an example, this

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is the Statue of Liberty at
305 feet, the Empire State

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Building, the Eiffel Tower.

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The average onshore
turbine is 466 feet tall.

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The tallest US turbine, the
tallest turbine you've probably

00:23:41.780 --> 00:23:45.110 align:middle line:90%
seen onshore, is 574 feet tall.

00:23:45.110 --> 00:23:50.000 align:middle line:84%
The new GE Haliade-X
is 853 feet tall.

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The current-- the
five wind turbines

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we have operating in
the US off Rhode Island

00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:56.810 align:middle line:90%
are only 590 feet tall.

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So GE can build these turbines.

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They've introduced
this as a product.

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But clearly, these
turbines are very large.

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I think each of those blades is
one or two aircraft wings long.

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So just to give you a
sense, the total height

00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.260 align:middle line:84%
of the new Haliade-X
wind turbine

00:24:18.260 --> 00:24:20.960 align:middle line:84%
is three times the
Flatiron Building.

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The diameter is equivalent to
the Golden Gate Bridge tower

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height above the water.

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And the surface
of the blade sweep

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is equivalent to seven
American football fields.

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A single one of these turbines
can generate 67 gigawatt hours

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annually, which is--

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I guess that's enough for
16,000 European households

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per turbine, which I
guess is maybe about

00:24:42.470 --> 00:24:44.990 align:middle line:90%
8,000 American households.

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The key point, though, is
that because of the map

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I showed you before, wind
speeds are higher offshore.

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The wind is steadier offshore.

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If you put one of these
turbines offshore,

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it'll generate much more
power than onshore turbines.

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But again, we have yet to
realize the technology.

00:25:01.970 --> 00:25:06.208 align:middle line:84%
American waters are deeper and
stormier than European waters.

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Europeans, I think,
have deployed something

00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:10.760 align:middle line:84%
like 5,000 or 6,000
offshore wind turbines.

00:25:10.760 --> 00:25:12.530 align:middle line:84%
We've only deployed
seven in the US.

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We have a lot of
obstacles and barriers

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to overcome such as the
right kinds of ships

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and the right kind of workforce
and the port capability

00:25:22.625 --> 00:25:25.790 align:middle line:84%
that are all necessary to
build these offshore turbines,

00:25:25.790 --> 00:25:29.870 align:middle line:84%
let alone the undersea
wiring required to transmit

00:25:29.870 --> 00:25:32.240 align:middle line:84%
the power from
offshore to onshore

00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.760 align:middle line:90%
and connect it to our grid.

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I'll skip over more GE
marketing literature.

00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.390 align:middle line:84%
One key point or kind
of elemental concept

00:25:42.390 --> 00:25:44.910 align:middle line:84%
I want to talk to you about
is the idea of intermittency.

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You've probably heard that
renewable energy technologies

00:25:47.610 --> 00:25:50.820 align:middle line:84%
are intermittent in that the
wind doesn't always blow.

00:25:50.820 --> 00:25:52.740 align:middle line:90%
The sun doesn't always shine.

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But what we use to measure the
output of these technologies

00:25:56.910 --> 00:26:00.840 align:middle line:84%
is a calculation called
the capacity factor.

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The capacity factor is defined
as the ratio of actual power

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produced divided by the
maximum possible power

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over a period of time.

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So the key point I want to
make is that it's a unitless.

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It's a percentage.

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This is the number or
percentage that's empirically

00:26:15.090 --> 00:26:17.250 align:middle line:84%
determined in
real-life operation,

00:26:17.250 --> 00:26:19.290 align:middle line:90%
and it changes seasonally.

00:26:19.290 --> 00:26:21.300 align:middle line:84%
The wind blows
differently in different

00:26:21.300 --> 00:26:23.790 align:middle line:84%
places in the summer
than the winter.

00:26:23.790 --> 00:26:27.090 align:middle line:84%
Obviously, it's determined
in real-life operation.

00:26:27.090 --> 00:26:30.210 align:middle line:84%
Seasonally, solar
operates-- has different

00:26:30.210 --> 00:26:31.800 align:middle line:84%
intermittency or
different capacity

00:26:31.800 --> 00:26:33.250 align:middle line:90%
in different times of the year.

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So we measure the
capacity factor,

00:26:35.190 --> 00:26:39.090 align:middle line:84%
and we use capacity factor
as kind of a general ratio

00:26:39.090 --> 00:26:42.030 align:middle line:84%
that we use to calculate
how much energy we're

00:26:42.030 --> 00:26:44.440 align:middle line:84%
going to produce from
a given technology,

00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:48.120 align:middle line:84%
given that the resource that is
harvesting the wind or the sun

00:26:48.120 --> 00:26:50.960 align:middle line:84%
are not necessarily
always there.

00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:53.470 align:middle line:84%
So just to give you
a few other kind

00:26:53.470 --> 00:26:56.630 align:middle line:84%
of key terms, the nameplate
generation capacity.

00:26:56.630 --> 00:26:59.140 align:middle line:84%
This is what the
manufacturer says

00:26:59.140 --> 00:27:00.880 align:middle line:90%
the technology can generate.

00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.670 align:middle line:84%
That's what the GE diagram
in the previous few slides

00:27:04.670 --> 00:27:05.170 align:middle line:90%
showed you.

00:27:05.170 --> 00:27:07.330 align:middle line:84%
That's the nameplate
generation capacity.

00:27:07.330 --> 00:27:09.220 align:middle line:84%
And the nameplate
generation capacity

00:27:09.220 --> 00:27:11.260 align:middle line:84%
varies for different
technologies.

00:27:11.260 --> 00:27:14.110 align:middle line:84%
Just to show you two
fossil fuel technologies,

00:27:14.110 --> 00:27:17.650 align:middle line:84%
a coal-fired power plant
or a natural gas turbine.

00:27:17.650 --> 00:27:26.730 align:middle line:84%
If we skip to the tables put
out by the US Energy Information

00:27:26.730 --> 00:27:29.610 align:middle line:84%
Administration, when
I clicked on the link

00:27:29.610 --> 00:27:33.120 align:middle line:84%
from the slides
for the EIA tables

00:27:33.120 --> 00:27:35.790 align:middle line:84%
from the Electric Power Monthly,
what you're looking at here

00:27:35.790 --> 00:27:39.930 align:middle line:84%
is a table of capacity factors
for utility scale generators

00:27:39.930 --> 00:27:41.850 align:middle line:90%
primarily using fossil fuels.

00:27:41.850 --> 00:27:45.160 align:middle line:84%
So just look at the kind
of aspects of this table.

00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:46.710 align:middle line:90%
You have the annual data.

00:27:46.710 --> 00:27:48.540 align:middle line:90%
This is annualized data.

00:27:48.540 --> 00:27:51.600 align:middle line:84%
You have the various fossil
fuel-generating technologies.

00:27:51.600 --> 00:27:53.070 align:middle line:90%
Coal, natural gas.

00:27:53.070 --> 00:27:56.280 align:middle line:84%
Natural gas is broken into
combined cycle, gas turbines,

00:27:56.280 --> 00:27:58.455 align:middle line:90%
and peaking gas turbines.

00:27:58.455 --> 00:28:01.590 align:middle line:84%
And you have petroleum steam
turbines, gas turbines,

00:28:01.590 --> 00:28:03.610 align:middle line:90%
internal combustion, and so on.

00:28:03.610 --> 00:28:05.850 align:middle line:84%
These are all categorized
in different ways.

00:28:05.850 --> 00:28:07.410 align:middle line:84%
But then the important
thing to note

00:28:07.410 --> 00:28:09.420 align:middle line:84%
is that there's a
time-adjusted capacity,

00:28:09.420 --> 00:28:11.400 align:middle line:90%
and it varies across years.

00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:12.870 align:middle line:90%
And here's the capacity factor.

00:28:12.870 --> 00:28:16.350 align:middle line:84%
It's a percentage of the time
that the resource is actually

00:28:16.350 --> 00:28:17.800 align:middle line:90%
producing power.

00:28:17.800 --> 00:28:20.310 align:middle line:84%
So you can see that
coal has a relatively

00:28:20.310 --> 00:28:24.153 align:middle line:84%
high-capacity factor, I
guess, around 50% or 60%.

00:28:24.153 --> 00:28:25.320 align:middle line:90%
But that's still much lower.

00:28:25.320 --> 00:28:27.180 align:middle line:84%
When we talk about
coal as a base load

00:28:27.180 --> 00:28:29.260 align:middle line:84%
resource, a lot of
advocates will say,

00:28:29.260 --> 00:28:31.770 align:middle line:84%
well, we need coal as
a baseload resource

00:28:31.770 --> 00:28:34.110 align:middle line:84%
because it's always
providing power.

00:28:34.110 --> 00:28:37.260 align:middle line:84%
This capacity factor could be
relatively low at 50% to 60%--

00:28:37.260 --> 00:28:39.660 align:middle line:84%
50% or 60% of the
time, it's only

00:28:39.660 --> 00:28:42.485 align:middle line:84%
providing resources
or energy for a couple

00:28:42.485 --> 00:28:43.360 align:middle line:90%
of different reasons.

00:28:43.360 --> 00:28:46.560 align:middle line:84%
It could be because it's coal
power plants are actually

00:28:46.560 --> 00:28:48.510 align:middle line:90%
frequently down for maintenance.

00:28:48.510 --> 00:28:50.880 align:middle line:84%
It could also be that coal-fired
power plants are simply

00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.790 align:middle line:84%
outcompeted in certain
seasons of the year.

00:28:53.790 --> 00:28:56.130 align:middle line:84%
For example, if you
at the year 2020,

00:28:56.130 --> 00:28:59.130 align:middle line:84%
you look at the capacity
factor, coal-fired power plants

00:28:59.130 --> 00:29:03.030 align:middle line:84%
look like they have a capacity
factor around 50% or 60%

00:29:03.030 --> 00:29:05.760 align:middle line:84%
still in the summer
because in July and August,

00:29:05.760 --> 00:29:07.560 align:middle line:90%
we have peak electric demand.

00:29:07.560 --> 00:29:11.340 align:middle line:84%
But the capacity factor
gets as low as 25% or 30%

00:29:11.340 --> 00:29:14.940 align:middle line:84%
for these kind of shoulder
seasons and the winter seasons,

00:29:14.940 --> 00:29:19.110 align:middle line:84%
probably because coal is
simply not as necessary as for,

00:29:19.110 --> 00:29:22.242 align:middle line:84%
quote, unquote, "baseload power"
in those seasons of the year.

00:29:22.242 --> 00:29:23.700 align:middle line:84%
And it's probably
being outcompeted

00:29:23.700 --> 00:29:26.040 align:middle line:90%
by natural gas power plants.

00:29:26.040 --> 00:29:28.890 align:middle line:84%
And if you look at combined
cycle gas turbines,

00:29:28.890 --> 00:29:30.930 align:middle line:84%
capacity factor has
been relatively steady

00:29:30.930 --> 00:29:34.440 align:middle line:84%
over the previous years,
let's say around 50% to 60%.

00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:35.940 align:middle line:84%
And you can see,
again, that they're

00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:37.980 align:middle line:84%
much more utilized
in the summer when

00:29:37.980 --> 00:29:40.590 align:middle line:84%
we have electricity demand
very high because of air

00:29:40.590 --> 00:29:41.650 align:middle line:90%
conditioners.

00:29:41.650 --> 00:29:45.690 align:middle line:84%
But it actually dips
also in the spring

00:29:45.690 --> 00:29:48.870 align:middle line:84%
and fall simply because there's
not as much electricity demand

00:29:48.870 --> 00:29:51.580 align:middle line:84%
when it's not very
hot or very cold.

00:29:51.580 --> 00:29:54.570 align:middle line:84%
If you look at another kind of
gas turbine, natural gas gas

00:29:54.570 --> 00:29:56.610 align:middle line:84%
turbines, these are
probably peaking plants

00:29:56.610 --> 00:29:57.990 align:middle line:84%
that are used to
meet electricity

00:29:57.990 --> 00:30:02.370 align:middle line:84%
demand for certain peaks or
for regulation of the grid,

00:30:02.370 --> 00:30:04.590 align:middle line:84%
keeping the grid at
the right frequency,

00:30:04.590 --> 00:30:06.570 align:middle line:84%
you can see that the
demand utilization

00:30:06.570 --> 00:30:08.800 align:middle line:84%
for these technologies
is relatively low.

00:30:08.800 --> 00:30:12.450 align:middle line:84%
It's like 15%, 16%
in July and August.

00:30:12.450 --> 00:30:15.780 align:middle line:84%
It dips as low as about 9% or
10% in the rest of the year,

00:30:15.780 --> 00:30:17.670 align:middle line:84%
simply because these
turbines are mostly

00:30:17.670 --> 00:30:22.110 align:middle line:84%
used to meet kind of
the peaks or the reserve

00:30:22.110 --> 00:30:24.810 align:middle line:84%
or the regulation
of the grid itself.

00:30:24.810 --> 00:30:27.350 align:middle line:84%
Now, I'm going to show
you a different slide.

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One moment.

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If we go back to the
slides, the handout,

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and I click on this table for
Electric Power Monthly Table

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6.07B for nonfossil resources,
what you now see are capacity

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factors for utility-scale
generators primarily using

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nonfossil fuels.

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So we should just note
right off the bat,

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this is for
utility-scale generators.

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This is what the US EIA,
the Energy Information

00:30:55.360 --> 00:30:56.770 align:middle line:90%
Administration, collects.

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This doesn't include
necessarily rooftop solar.

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But if you look at the different
types of technologies--

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geothermal, hydroelectric,
nuclear, biomass,

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other kinds of gas, solar
photovoltaic and solar thermal,

00:31:09.100 --> 00:31:10.690 align:middle line:90%
and wind and wood--

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these are kind of
what I've referred

00:31:12.190 --> 00:31:14.200 align:middle line:90%
to as our renewable toolkit.

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If you look at the capacity
factor for geothermal,

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it's actually quite high.

00:31:17.940 --> 00:31:19.343 align:middle line:90%
It's around 70%.

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Geothermal, because it comes
from the heat from the Earth,

00:31:21.760 --> 00:31:23.500 align:middle line:90%
is quite steady.

00:31:23.500 --> 00:31:25.690 align:middle line:84%
Hydroelectric is
actually surprisingly

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low from 30% or 40%,
probably because

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hydroelectric technologies
often require water

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to be behind a reservoir, and
then it flows through a turbine

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and generates electricity.

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So hydroelectric plants
may not be run all year,

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or they may be run
certain times of the year.

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Again, let's say
in July and August.

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Actually, it's
relatively low here.

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But you might imagine
hydroelectric power plants

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being run for various reasons
in different times of the year.

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For example, where there's
more spring runoff or snowmelt

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in the spring, it might actually
have higher capacity factors.

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Nuclear power plants look like
they have very high capacity

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factors, around
90% consistently.

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And then solar photovoltaic
you can see only

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has a capacity factor
of 25% over many years.

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That doesn't seem to change
a whole lot, though you

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can tell in the year
2020 it does change

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throughout the year,
because obviously

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some parts of the year the
days are longer, notably

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summer than they are winter.

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Wind, you can see the
capacity factors are

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around 30%, 35% over the years.

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And you can actually
see the capacity factors

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go down slightly in the summer.

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They're slightly
higher in the spring

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and the winter and the fall.

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So this is just to give
you a sense of even

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though certain technologies have
a nameplate capacity like GE

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markets their Haliade
turbines, it's not necessarily

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the energy or the
electricity that we

00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.550 align:middle line:90%
derive from these technologies.

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That's a percentage of
the possible capacity.

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So going back to our
slides, just to show you,

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again, the capacity
factor changes.

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You can see that nuclear has
relatively high capacity.

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Hydropower, wind, solar
PV, solar thermal all

00:33:08.270 --> 00:33:10.440 align:middle line:90%
have lower capacity factors.

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And of course, our landfill
gas, our biomass, coal,

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and natural gas power plants
have higher capacity factors,

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so geothermal is
also quite high.

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A noticeable thing I want
you to observe in this graph

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is that offshore wind has no
capacity factor because we

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haven't empirically
determined it yet,

00:33:27.500 --> 00:33:30.470 align:middle line:84%
or we haven't observed
this technology in action.

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As I said to you on
the earlier slides,

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there's only seven offshore wind
turbines operating in the US.

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Even though we are planning
to build about 100%

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or 1,000 times more offshore
capacity, at the moment

00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.230 align:middle line:84%
it's a unproven
technology that we still

00:33:45.230 --> 00:33:47.660 align:middle line:84%
need to understand what the
actual capacity is going

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to be so we can plan to build
our grid or forecast how

00:33:51.470 --> 00:33:55.050 align:middle line:84%
effective this technology is
going to be in the future.

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So another key metric for the
cost of these technologies

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is the levelized cost of energy.

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In a simple way--

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I just call it here the simple
levelized cost of energy--

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it's taking the fixed
cost, the fuel costs,

00:34:13.100 --> 00:34:16.310 align:middle line:84%
and then variable operations and
maintenance and dividing it all

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or amortizing it over the length
of life of the technology.

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In other words, taking the
average cost of technology

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averaged over its full lifetime.

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To show you in another way,
you have the capital cost times

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recovery factor
plus the fixed cost.

00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:32.690 align:middle line:90%
This is the fixed cost term.

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You divide it by
8,760 hours in a year

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and multiply it times
the capacity factor

00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:41.520 align:middle line:84%
because you're not getting the
full capacity of the technology

00:34:41.520 --> 00:34:42.860 align:middle line:90%
all the time.

00:34:42.860 --> 00:34:45.290 align:middle line:84%
You can add on this
additional fuel costs.

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This is kind of the cost you're
incurring throughout the life

00:34:48.710 --> 00:34:49.850 align:middle line:90%
of the technology.

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So you take the fuel
cost to average over time

00:34:52.580 --> 00:34:54.739 align:middle line:84%
and multiply times
this heat rate, which

00:34:54.739 --> 00:34:57.470 align:middle line:84%
is the exact amount of energy
you're actually getting out

00:34:57.470 --> 00:34:59.300 align:middle line:84%
of the heat energy
of the technology.

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For example, with a
coal-fired power plant

00:35:01.730 --> 00:35:05.565 align:middle line:84%
if it has a low heat
rate around 30% or 40%,

00:35:05.565 --> 00:35:07.190 align:middle line:84%
the heat of the
technology may actually

00:35:07.190 --> 00:35:08.900 align:middle line:84%
be going out in the
smokestack and you

00:35:08.900 --> 00:35:11.720 align:middle line:84%
wouldn't factor that into
the energy of the fuel

00:35:11.720 --> 00:35:13.070 align:middle line:90%
that you're getting.

00:35:13.070 --> 00:35:15.260 align:middle line:84%
And then you might add on
some variable operations

00:35:15.260 --> 00:35:16.700 align:middle line:90%
and maintenance costs.

00:35:16.700 --> 00:35:20.600 align:middle line:84%
I think a more exact way or
a better but more complicated

00:35:20.600 --> 00:35:23.510 align:middle line:84%
formula for the
levelized cost of energy,

00:35:23.510 --> 00:35:26.240 align:middle line:84%
Wikipedia actually has a
surprisingly good article

00:35:26.240 --> 00:35:26.990 align:middle line:90%
on this.

00:35:26.990 --> 00:35:28.770 align:middle line:84%
They call the levelized
cost of energy

00:35:28.770 --> 00:35:31.430 align:middle line:84%
the sum of costs over
the lifetime divided

00:35:31.430 --> 00:35:34.980 align:middle line:84%
by the sum of electrical energy
produced over the lifetime.

00:35:34.980 --> 00:35:37.460 align:middle line:84%
So you have various terms like
the investment expenditure

00:35:37.460 --> 00:35:40.580 align:middle line:84%
in year T. That's
this term here.

00:35:40.580 --> 00:35:42.590 align:middle line:84%
Plus the operations and
maintenance expenditures

00:35:42.590 --> 00:35:45.170 align:middle line:90%
in year T. That's the MT here.

00:35:45.170 --> 00:35:48.440 align:middle line:84%
Plus the fuel expenditures
in a given year T here.

00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:52.130 align:middle line:84%
You add it up across all
the years and starting at T

00:35:52.130 --> 00:35:53.210 align:middle line:90%
equals 1.

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But the more complicated
formula has a discount term, 1

00:35:56.600 --> 00:36:00.050 align:middle line:84%
plus R over T where
R is a discount rate.

00:36:00.050 --> 00:36:03.170 align:middle line:84%
That's a way of taking
all the financial costs

00:36:03.170 --> 00:36:05.930 align:middle line:84%
and discounting it
over the discount rate.

00:36:05.930 --> 00:36:08.940 align:middle line:84%
And then what you do on the
bottom is you have the energy.

00:36:08.940 --> 00:36:11.240 align:middle line:90%
So this is the cost per energy.

00:36:11.240 --> 00:36:15.020 align:middle line:84%
And you take all the energy over
each-- the periods T. Again,

00:36:15.020 --> 00:36:17.750 align:middle line:84%
sum it up over n
terms and discount it.

00:36:17.750 --> 00:36:20.300 align:middle line:84%
So you discount it
because the value

00:36:20.300 --> 00:36:22.190 align:middle line:84%
of the energy or the
cost of the energy

00:36:22.190 --> 00:36:25.430 align:middle line:84%
may not be the same in
the future as it is now.

00:36:25.430 --> 00:36:27.440 align:middle line:84%
Like the time value
of money, you're

00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.170 align:middle line:84%
valuing the energy
and the costs upfront

00:36:30.170 --> 00:36:34.660 align:middle line:84%
more than you are the energy
and cost in the future.

00:36:34.660 --> 00:36:36.900 align:middle line:84%
And of course, this note
down here is useful.

00:36:36.900 --> 00:36:39.270 align:middle line:84%
Some caution must be
taken when using formulas

00:36:39.270 --> 00:36:43.260 align:middle line:84%
for levelized costs as they
often embody unseen assumptions

00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:45.360 align:middle line:84%
like neglecting the
effects of taxes

00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.520 align:middle line:84%
or maybe specified in
real or nominal terms.

00:36:48.520 --> 00:36:50.940 align:middle line:84%
In other words, other
versions of the above formula

00:36:50.940 --> 00:36:54.330 align:middle line:84%
like the previous slide do not
discount the electricity stream

00:36:54.330 --> 00:36:58.680 align:middle line:84%
in the way that the Wikipedia
formula discounts it.

00:36:58.680 --> 00:37:02.910 align:middle line:84%
But this is why we look at the
Lazard levelized cost of energy

00:37:02.910 --> 00:37:03.600 align:middle line:90%
analysis.

00:37:03.600 --> 00:37:06.540 align:middle line:84%
I think all the assumptions are
stated upfront in the report.

00:37:06.540 --> 00:37:08.880 align:middle line:84%
This is a fairly
industry standard report

00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:10.842 align:middle line:90%
that gets reported every year.

00:37:10.842 --> 00:37:12.300 align:middle line:84%
Last year, it came
out in this week

00:37:12.300 --> 00:37:15.870 align:middle line:84%
in October, so we may get
a new version this week.

00:37:15.870 --> 00:37:18.060 align:middle line:84%
You can see the cost
of renewable energy

00:37:18.060 --> 00:37:21.360 align:middle line:84%
up here in the top boxes and
the cost of conventional, quote

00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.160 align:middle line:84%
unquote, "conventional" or
fossil fuel technologies

00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:25.120 align:middle line:90%
at the bottom.

00:37:25.120 --> 00:37:28.320 align:middle line:84%
And the reason why I say your
renewable toolkit is getting

00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.610 align:middle line:84%
cheaper and cleaner
all the time,

00:37:30.610 --> 00:37:33.390 align:middle line:84%
look at the relative costs
of each of the technologies.

00:37:33.390 --> 00:37:38.520 align:middle line:84%
Solar PV on a cost in
dollars of a megawatt hour

00:37:38.520 --> 00:37:42.780 align:middle line:84%
is the same thing as the cost
of cents per kilowatt hour.

00:37:42.780 --> 00:37:48.540 align:middle line:84%
That's $147 per megawatt
hour at least for solar PV

00:37:48.540 --> 00:37:50.160 align:middle line:90%
in the rooftop residential.

00:37:50.160 --> 00:37:53.580 align:middle line:84%
But it's much cheaper for a
commercial industrial rooftop

00:37:53.580 --> 00:37:54.720 align:middle line:90%
installation.

00:37:54.720 --> 00:37:58.620 align:middle line:84%
It's actually about
2.5 times less.

00:37:58.620 --> 00:38:02.620 align:middle line:84%
A solar PV in a community solar
installation is even lower,

00:38:02.620 --> 00:38:05.220 align:middle line:84%
but none of these other
solar installations

00:38:05.220 --> 00:38:09.030 align:middle line:84%
are as cheap as solar installed
at the utility scale using

00:38:09.030 --> 00:38:11.790 align:middle line:84%
different technologies like
crystalline, photovoltaic

00:38:11.790 --> 00:38:15.240 align:middle line:84%
panels, or thin film
photovoltaic panels.

00:38:15.240 --> 00:38:17.220 align:middle line:84%
If you look at
solar thermal tower,

00:38:17.220 --> 00:38:19.650 align:middle line:84%
that's also called a
concentrating solar tower.

00:38:19.650 --> 00:38:23.070 align:middle line:84%
This is like out in the
desert in California.

00:38:23.070 --> 00:38:24.570 align:middle line:84%
This is still
relatively expensive

00:38:24.570 --> 00:38:26.580 align:middle line:84%
and has not gotten
cheaper over time.

00:38:26.580 --> 00:38:28.950 align:middle line:84%
Solar PV is the
technology that's

00:38:28.950 --> 00:38:31.020 align:middle line:84%
gotten cheapest most
quickly, and we'll talk more

00:38:31.020 --> 00:38:33.120 align:middle line:90%
about that in the next lecture.

00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:36.440 align:middle line:84%
Geothermal is relatively
cheap, but it's also

00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.630 align:middle line:84%
important to note in the
context of this class

00:38:38.630 --> 00:38:40.880 align:middle line:84%
that wind is the
cheapest resource

00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.470 align:middle line:84%
among the renewable
technologies.

00:38:42.470 --> 00:38:47.270 align:middle line:84%
It's at least at the lowest
point $26 per megawatt hour.

00:38:47.270 --> 00:38:50.600 align:middle line:84%
That can vary and be as much
as $50 per megawatt hour,

00:38:50.600 --> 00:38:54.650 align:middle line:84%
probably for an older wind farm
that has smaller wind turbines.

00:38:54.650 --> 00:38:56.480 align:middle line:84%
The important thing
to note is that wind

00:38:56.480 --> 00:39:00.260 align:middle line:84%
at $26 per megawatt hour
on the low end of the scale

00:39:00.260 --> 00:39:02.390 align:middle line:84%
is actually much cheaper
than our other technology.

00:39:02.390 --> 00:39:05.780 align:middle line:84%
It's cheaper than a gas
peaking natural gas plant.

00:39:05.780 --> 00:39:08.510 align:middle line:84%
It's much cheaper than
a nuclear power plant.

00:39:08.510 --> 00:39:10.730 align:middle line:84%
It's cheaper than a
coal-fired power plant.

00:39:10.730 --> 00:39:14.390 align:middle line:84%
And it's basically cheaper than
a combined gas cycle turbine

00:39:14.390 --> 00:39:16.120 align:middle line:90%
power plant.

00:39:16.120 --> 00:39:19.330 align:middle line:84%
If we look at the sensitivity
of these various costs

00:39:19.330 --> 00:39:23.470 align:middle line:84%
to federal tax subsidies,
these levelized cost estimates

00:39:23.470 --> 00:39:26.890 align:middle line:84%
from Lazard clearly include
federal tax subsidies

00:39:26.890 --> 00:39:28.150 align:middle line:90%
in some of the calculations.

00:39:28.150 --> 00:39:30.250 align:middle line:84%
You can see that federal
tax subsidies make

00:39:30.250 --> 00:39:33.100 align:middle line:84%
solar PV on the rooftop
cheaper and make

00:39:33.100 --> 00:39:36.340 align:middle line:84%
solar PV on the commercial
industrial buildings cheaper.

00:39:36.340 --> 00:39:39.880 align:middle line:84%
It makes community solar
cheaper and makes utility scale

00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:43.615 align:middle line:90%
cheaper by about 25%, 30%.

00:39:43.615 --> 00:39:46.300 align:middle line:84%
It makes solar thermal
towers cheaper.

00:39:46.300 --> 00:39:48.550 align:middle line:84%
It makes geothermal
technology cheaper.

00:39:48.550 --> 00:39:50.650 align:middle line:84%
And it makes wind
much, much cheaper.

00:39:50.650 --> 00:39:56.660 align:middle line:84%
At the low end, $26 per megawatt
hour to $9 per megawatt hour.

00:39:56.660 --> 00:39:59.200 align:middle line:84%
If you compare that to all
the conventional or fossil

00:39:59.200 --> 00:40:01.300 align:middle line:84%
technologies in the
previous slide--

00:40:01.300 --> 00:40:03.490 align:middle line:84%
and none of these things
compete because we

00:40:03.490 --> 00:40:06.160 align:middle line:84%
don't offer as many
overt federal tax

00:40:06.160 --> 00:40:09.190 align:middle line:84%
subsidies for these technologies
in terms of energy production,

00:40:09.190 --> 00:40:12.880 align:middle line:84%
even though these technologies
or these industries

00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.460 align:middle line:84%
do receive a lot of
subsidies in other ways.

00:40:15.460 --> 00:40:19.420 align:middle line:84%
But Lazard doesn't calculate
those levelized costs.

00:40:19.420 --> 00:40:21.820 align:middle line:84%
Just to show the
sensitivity of this

00:40:21.820 --> 00:40:24.730 align:middle line:84%
because the federal tax
subsidies for renewable energy

00:40:24.730 --> 00:40:26.650 align:middle line:84%
have been much more
debated and are,

00:40:26.650 --> 00:40:30.880 align:middle line:84%
frankly, sometimes a little
less secure or less entrenched

00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.540 align:middle line:90%
than the fossil fuel subsidies.

00:40:33.540 --> 00:40:36.220 align:middle line:84%
But if we do this
comparison again,

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the key point from a
lot of energy analysts

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and a lot of renewable
energy advocates

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is that if you compare
the levelized cost

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of new billed wind and solar
versus the marginal cost

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of selected existing
conventional generation--

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in other words, the right-hand
side here for coal, nuclear,

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and combined and
gas cycle turbines,

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we already have that
fossil fuel system.

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It's already built.

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What we're trying to
compare is, should we

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continue to operate the fossil
fuel system that we have,

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or should we new
build wind and solar?

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And so the point of this graph
is to show that onshore wind,

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if you subsidize
it, it's cheaper

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to build a whole new
onshore wind turbine or farm

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and provide power that way.

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Subsidized wind outcompetes
all these fossil generation

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technologies.

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And unsubsidized solar
PV, unsubsidized wind,

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and subsidized solar PV
are getting to the point

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where they're starting to
outcompete coal and nuclear,

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and will probably
soon outcompete

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gas and combined cycle--

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combined cycle
gas turbines also.

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Thank you very much.

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