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DAVID HSU: This is another
lecture installment

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in the Urban Energy Systems
and Policy class at MIT.

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My name is David Hsu.

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I'm a Professor of Urban
studies and Planning.

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And today, we're going to talk
about cities and a just energy

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transition.

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What is a just energy
transition going to look like?

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What does it mean for us
to try to achieve a just

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or equitable energy transition?

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The readings for today
are listed on the slide.

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A lot of this lecture will
be setting up our discussion

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in class of these readings.

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It will be a fairly
short lecture today.

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I think that's going to be the
best way to set up discussion.

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And, hopefully, we have a
lively discussion in class.

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Let me just start
with a few stories

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to supplement the reading.

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I want to start with this rather
hale-looking fellow, President

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Theodore Roosevelt. He's the
26th president of the United

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States.

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He is known in his lifetime
as a soldier; a naturalist;

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a writer; a politician,
reformer, and imperialist.

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He does all this despite
being a Harvard graduate.

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But I would think what's most
relevant about his political

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career is that also he's
known as a progressive,

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a turn-of-the-century
progressive,

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suspicious of big corporations,
a trust-buster, reform-minded,

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in favor of clean and
strong government action

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and intervention
into the economy.

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That's why he's
become quite relevant.

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The Roosevelt Institute is
one of our most progressive

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economic think tanks.

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He's also, for the
purposes of our class,

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known as a conservationist.

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He's strongly associated with
the US National Park System.

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There's a quote from
Wallace Stegner, a noted

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environmental writer.

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He calls the national parks, one
of "the best ideas we ever had.

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Absolutely American,
absolutely democratic,

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they reflect us at our best
rather than our worst."

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Of course, I put the asterisks
on the National Park System

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because, as many people have
noted throughout history,

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and more recently, a lot
of the National Park System

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is also land appropriated
from Indigenous peoples

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of the United States.

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But also relevant
for our discussion

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today, Theodore Roosevelt
has fairly troubling

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racial beliefs,
even for his time.

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One could argue that he was
in favor of immigration,

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but also assimilation
of immigrants

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into a strong American culture.

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One could argue that he
had Booker T. Washington

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as a dinner guest at the White
House, which was considered

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quite controversial
at the time--

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one of the first presidents
to entertain a Black dinner

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guest at the White House.

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However, he's also known
for essentially advocating

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race war against Native
Americans early in his career,

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in his writings,
and also prosecuted

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a Black regiment in
Brownsville, Texas for mutiny,

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quite unjustly, according
to the historical evidence.

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So we have this kind
of troubling history.

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On one hand, he's known
as a conservationist.

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He's one of our more
scholarly presidents.

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He writes about the environment,
writes about the need

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to conserve nature.

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At the same time, he also has
these troubling racial beliefs.

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Let me tell you another
story about John Muir.

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John Muir was born
in Scotland in 1838.

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He is an early naturalist
writer, early environmentalist.

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He's considered one of
the founding fathers

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of environmentalism
because of his strong ideas

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about human
relationships in nature,

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our impact on the Earth,
and the preservation

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of the idea of wilderness.

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He's also closely associated
with the American West,

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the founding of Yosemite Park,
and the founding of the Sierra

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Club.

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Many of his writings
on the Sierra Nevadas,

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leading to the founding
of the Sierra Club.

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He also has recently noted--

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we've also recently noted
his troubling racial beliefs,

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most notably in 2020, when
the executive director

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of the Sierra Club,
Michael Brune,

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apologized for his racial
beliefs and racial writings.

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He writes early on in his
career about Native Americans

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and Blacks as lazy.

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At the same time, later
on, other scholars

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note that he writes approvingly
of Native American culture

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as having much less
impact on the Earth.

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Other scholars have noted
that his idea of wilderness

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essentially assumes a
pristine wilderness,

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in the absence of
people, ignoring

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the presence of Indigenous
peoples and cultures.

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And so what I want to do
by kind of just talking

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about these biographies a little
bit is explore the idea of what

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is justice going to be
in a climate context,

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do his racial writings
matter, or does

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his idea of wilderness and
preservation of wilderness

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also matter?

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How do they matter?

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That's something we're
going to discuss in class.

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Just to take one more example,
Frederick Law Olmsted, Jr.,

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was a noted journalist, writer,
farmer, and abolitionist,

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well-known for his writings
before he becomes a landscape

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architect.

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But as a landscape architect,
he's fairly prolific.

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Here, in Boston, he builds
the Boston Common, the Public

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Garden, the Emerald
Necklace, and the Fens.

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In New York, he builds
Prospect Park in Brooklyn,

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Belle Isle Park in
the Detroit River,

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the Biltmore Estate
in North Carolina,

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and also designs the
US Capitol grounds.

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More recently,
however, there has

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been controversy, not
so much about his role,

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but about his most noted,
perhaps, work, Central Park.

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Central Park at the time
was well north of the city.

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So actually outside of
New York City, which was I

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think largely below 34th Street.

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And at the time, New
York state legislators

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basically looked at it as
700 acres of not particularly

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desirable landscape

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Frederick Law Olmsted and
his partner, Calvert Vaux,

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are well-known for
transforming Central Park

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into what we know it as today.

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The design has largely
been preserved.

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And they build
Central Park and they

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write about Prospect Park as
a open-air area for immigrants

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and people from all
backgrounds to mix.

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They have an essentially
democratic vision of what these

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parks are meant to do in a
bustling, turn-of-the-century,

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rapidly changing New York City.

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Of course, more recently,
landscape architects

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and historians have
unearthed or noted

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the presence-- that
it was not actually

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a barren landscape,
as the New York State

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legislator wrote about it.

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There were actually several
small villages, notably

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Seneca Village, one of
the few middle-class Black

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communities in New York City.

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Apparently, it also had
German and Irish immigrants.

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But by eminent domain,
the city or the state

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claims the landscape
of Central Park

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and essentially
razes Seneca Village.

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So there's a lot more historical
writing about Seneca Village

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recently.

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And the question is, does this
change the legacy of Frederick

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Law Olmsted or should
we talk about his works

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in a different way?

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And this brings me to the
last story I want to tell you.

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It's about Professor
Robert Bullard, considered

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one of the leading scholars
on environmental racism

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and environmental justice.

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And I think it's
just a good story

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of how he gets
involved in this topic

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and how he continues to write
about these issues today.

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There's a 2012
portrait on the left.

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This is a small
excerpt on the right.

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It's a list of summary of
community disputes from one

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of his earliest writings
on environmental racism.

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And, essentially, lists
grassroots movements

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throughout the South, but
also the American West,

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where communities and
neighborhoods are trying

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to fight back against
environmental infrastructure

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that will be located
in neighborhoods.

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Environmental infrastructure,
like landfills, smelters,

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houses, waste incinerators,
petrochemical refineries,

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that we know will probably
have negative environmental or

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health effects on the residents.

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His wife at the
time is a lawyer--

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or, in fact, his
wife is a lawyer.

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And at the time, she's
involved in litigation

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against this landfill.

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She asks him to get involved
in the lawsuit as an expert

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witness and to do research on
where landfills are located.

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He finds that 100% of
landfills in Houston

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are actually located
in Black neighborhoods,

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even though only 25% of the
population of Houston is Black.

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And so he essentially identifies
this as a racial phenomenon,

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that these
infrastructures are being

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located in Black communities.

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And he starts writing about it.

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And so this is a good example--

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or I think all of
these stories are

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good examples of how we have
to discuss race and justice

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in environmental context.

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The 1960s and '70s are noted
for the environmental and

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civil rights movements.

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The civil rights
movements, obviously

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typified by the
civil rights leaders

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like Martin Luther
King, Jr., or Malcolm

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X, or Stokely Carmichael.

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At the same time, we have
the environmental movement,

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culminating in the Clean Air
and Clean Water Act in 1970s.

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These two movements are
largely separate, typified

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by different people,
and different leaders,

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and different groups.

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Of course, there
are nascent linkages

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between some of these issues.

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The United Church of Christ
Commission on Racial Justice

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issues a report in 1987,
called Toxic Wastes and Race

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in the United States.

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Robert Bullard starts
writing about it--

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or, after this expert witness
testimony in his wife's

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lawsuit, he writes
Dumping in Dixie, 1990,

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arguing for convergence
between the Civil Rights

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and environmental movements.

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And he writes about
environmental justice

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and racism using very
similar terms that we now

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think about those things today.

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It's also really interesting
in these writings

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how he writes very
clearly that racism

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plays a key factor in
environmental planning

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and decision-making.

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And what's really
striking about his writing

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is that it's a
very clear critique

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of the mainstream
environmental movement, which

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is separate than the
Civil Rights movement.

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He writes, "It is a fact of
life in the United States

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that the mainstream
environmental movement is only

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beginning to wake up to," the
fact of life being racism.

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But, just the same year,
the EPA issues a report

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called "Environmental equity--

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reducing risk for
all communities."

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They very self-consciously
choose the phrase

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"environmental equity."

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And they put it in
terms of reducing risk

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for all communities.

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They say in the introduction
that environmental equity

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is to study or to identify
the "distribution and effects

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of environmental problems and
the policies and processes

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to reduce differences in who
bears environmental risks."

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And in just the next year, the
US president, Bill Clinton,

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issued an executive
order, in 1994,

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titled "Federal Actions
to Address Environmental

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Justice in Minority Populations
and Low-Income Populations."

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So even in this seven-year
period or so, in these writings

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you see the idea of
environmental justice

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essentially becoming
fully normalized.

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Of course, we still have to
understand what it means.

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Of course, it's also
worth pointing out

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that environmentalists, or
the mainstream environmental

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movement, as Robert
Bullard calls it,

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is still quite separate from the
environmental justice movement.

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Here's a headline,
very typical in 2020,

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about green groups
that are grappling

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with a history of
racism and exclusion.

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"The environmental
movement in America

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has deep ties to
the nation's history

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of systemic racism
and white supremacy,"

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this article writes.

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"Now, as Americans confront
racial injustice anew,

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powerful green groups
like the Sierra Club

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are beginning to reckon with
their own histories of hate

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and exclusion."

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And so there is
significant controversy

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within the Sierra Club itself--

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Sierra Club also
closely associated

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with the idea of conservation.

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The executive
director apologized

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for John Muir's writings
about Black people

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and Native Americans.

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Other board members
disagreed, and argued

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that the Sierra Club has a
strong legacy of conservation.

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Of course, the question
is, conservation for who?

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And what's more interesting
about the article--

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I encourage you to either
listen to it as a radio segment

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or read it-- is that a
reporter from The Washington

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Post, Darrell Fears,
started writing

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about green groups and their
lack of diversity many years

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before.

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He said that if you go to
many environmental meetings,

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and basically essentially see
no other Black people there.

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And so he started writing
about the homogeneity

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of the environmental
movement then.

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And so environmental
justice movements

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are much more closely associated
with grassroots movements

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and community groups.

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And the question is,
how do we, perhaps,

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hopefully, bring these
two movements together

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into a coalition?

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And so this has spawned many
different kind of conceptions.

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And I would argue to you
that our ideas about justice,

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fairness, and equity, which
are not necessarily the same,

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but often used quite
interchangeably,

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have become crossed
with energy and climate.

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And this is the key thing
we want to discuss in class.

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For example, climate
justice has roots

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in ideas about
historical responsibility

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and intergenerational equity.

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We will talk about
historical responsibility

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and intergenerational equity,
in terms of climate change,

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as a problem that
older generations may

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be leaving for later or
following generations.

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It is interesting to see how
that rhetoric has perhaps

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diminished because climate
change is here now.

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We all know that climate
change is happening.

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It may no longer be a
intergenerational problem.

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It is a problem here and now.

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And so I think a
more modern, I guess,

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way to talk about
climate justice

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has been about its
disproportionate causes

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and burdens, not only on
our older generations,

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causing greenhouse
gas emissions that

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will affect future generations
in terms of climate change.

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We also know that rich
Western or developed countries

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have disproportionately
caused the problem.

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This is an argument
I've made to you before.

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And that those burdens have
been modeled or forecast

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to disproportionately
affect the countries that

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are least responsible for
causing climate change,

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like the flooding happening
in Pakistan, like hurricanes

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and typhoons hitting Mozambique.

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At the same time,
climate justice

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has become a more
important phrase or idea

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because of the rise of
grassroots movements,

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like Fridays for the Future
or Extinction Rebellion.

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When you have a
social movement, you

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need to have a set of
organizing principles or ideas.

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Climate justice has become
one of those important ideas.

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And of course,
climate justice has

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become a more important idea
because of legal actions

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on climate change.

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I think the United
Nations counted recently

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almost 900 legal actions
on climate change.

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A lot of those,
adjudication of litigation

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around the effects
of climate change,

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are trying to get
to an idea of who is

00:14:53.790 --> 00:14:55.750 align:middle line:90%
responsible for climate change?

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How can, let's say, different
countries, or groups,

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or corporations be
held responsible

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for the impacts
of climate change?

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Do they owe reparations or
remedies to affected groups?

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Climate justice is
also closely associated

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with the idea of
transformative justice.

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These are practices
and philosophies

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designed to create
change in social systems.

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I would encourage
you to take note

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of the idea of
transformational justice

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in Shalanda Baker's
article that I

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assigned for this
discussion, and also

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the idea of energy justice.

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A number of these
different articles

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mentioned the idea
of energy justice

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as a fairly nascent
idea in the literature.

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And the idea of energy
justice gets at the idea

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that there are
disproportionate access

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or disproportionate people
who have access to the energy

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system, including its benefits.

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But also the energy
system we know

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has clear harms and burdens
that fall disproportionately

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on certain groups, like
Black Americans and minority

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groups, who live much more
closely to the polluting

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infrastructure, that Robert
Bullard first identified

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in the '70s and '80s.

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And, of course, our
discussion of climate justice

00:16:11.110 --> 00:16:14.800 align:middle line:84%
has to get at the idea of,
disproportionate to who?

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There are plenty of
disproportionate harms

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of the fossil fuel
system to go around.

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But as we start to seek
an energy transition,

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one group that has been notably
skeptical, until recently,

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of an energy transition,
mostly pushed

00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:32.110 align:middle line:84%
by environmentalists-- unions
and workers have been notably

00:16:32.110 --> 00:16:35.380 align:middle line:84%
skeptical sometimes of the
idea of an energy transition,

00:16:35.380 --> 00:16:37.480 align:middle line:84%
and the energy transition
that we are seeking,

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because of probably
well-founded skepticism

00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:43.870 align:middle line:84%
that they may not have
the same jobs or standard

00:16:43.870 --> 00:16:46.300 align:middle line:84%
of living in an
energy transition,

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and I think for good reason.

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Fossil fuel-dominated
communities-- fossil fuel jobs

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typically are higher
paying than average,

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than other jobs with the
same education level.

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And fossil fuel jobs in a
fossil fuel-dominated community,

00:17:00.790 --> 00:17:02.800 align:middle line:84%
according to this
Marchand and Weber study,

00:17:02.800 --> 00:17:05.990 align:middle line:84%
typically creates or supports
two to five other jobs.

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So if we seek an
energy transition,

00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:11.050 align:middle line:84%
how are we going to make sure
that workers, and unions,

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and fossil fuel-dominated
communities maintain

00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.480 align:middle line:84%
or even improve their
standard of living?

00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:17.920 align:middle line:84%
And, of course,
we know that there

00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:20.500 align:middle line:84%
are disproportionate
harms on frontline

00:17:20.500 --> 00:17:22.300 align:middle line:84%
or environmental
justice communities,

00:17:22.300 --> 00:17:25.150 align:middle line:84%
like minority groups,
like African Americans.

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We know that there are
particular places that

00:17:27.760 --> 00:17:31.580 align:middle line:84%
are affected by the
harms of fossil fuels,

00:17:31.580 --> 00:17:34.180 align:middle line:84%
including spills, including
refining, including

00:17:34.180 --> 00:17:35.140 align:middle line:90%
air pollution.

00:17:35.140 --> 00:17:36.760 align:middle line:84%
And, of course, it's
also worth noting

00:17:36.760 --> 00:17:40.390 align:middle line:84%
that these two groups, that
have disproportionate effects

00:17:40.390 --> 00:17:42.880 align:middle line:84%
of the energy system,
are often the same group.

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You could be a member of
a front-line environmental

00:17:45.970 --> 00:17:47.060 align:middle line:90%
justice community.

00:17:47.060 --> 00:17:49.910 align:middle line:84%
Whether you're white or Black,
you may be a fossil fuel worker

00:17:49.910 --> 00:17:50.410 align:middle line:90%
also.

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And you may actually oppose
change in the fossil fuel

00:17:52.930 --> 00:17:55.210 align:middle line:84%
system because you're
worried about maintaining

00:17:55.210 --> 00:17:57.123 align:middle line:90%
your standard of living or job.

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And so it's
interesting, actually.

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If you look at the
Shalanda Baker article,

00:18:00.760 --> 00:18:03.550 align:middle line:84%
she talks about her
Black relatives,

00:18:03.550 --> 00:18:07.007 align:middle line:84%
who are fossil fuel
workers in Port Arthur.

00:18:07.007 --> 00:18:09.340 align:middle line:84%
And, of course, this recent
headline from The Washington

00:18:09.340 --> 00:18:12.520 align:middle line:84%
Post, a few weeks
ago, actually kind of

00:18:12.520 --> 00:18:14.770 align:middle line:84%
describes now how the
conversation has changed.

00:18:14.770 --> 00:18:18.670 align:middle line:84%
This headline is about people
in Port Arthur, Texas, who

00:18:18.670 --> 00:18:20.380 align:middle line:90%
are surrounded by fossil fuels.

00:18:20.380 --> 00:18:23.140 align:middle line:84%
But they fear that the climate
bill leaves them behind.

00:18:23.140 --> 00:18:25.870 align:middle line:84%
And this includes not
only fossil fuel workers,

00:18:25.870 --> 00:18:28.300 align:middle line:84%
who work in Port
Arthur, but climate

00:18:28.300 --> 00:18:29.770 align:middle line:84%
and environmental
activists, who've

00:18:29.770 --> 00:18:32.720 align:middle line:84%
been fighting this environmental
infrastructure for a long time.

00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:34.330 align:middle line:84%
The climate bill,
which I've been

00:18:34.330 --> 00:18:37.932 align:middle line:84%
celebrating in the discussion,
we know has significant gaps.

00:18:37.932 --> 00:18:40.390 align:middle line:84%
And one of those significant
gaps is environmental justice.

00:18:40.390 --> 00:18:45.970 align:middle line:84%
In fact, one of the compromises
made in the climate legislation

00:18:45.970 --> 00:18:49.030 align:middle line:84%
was to allow
additional oil and gas

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leasing in the Gulf of Mexico.

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And additional
permitting of pipelines

00:18:53.020 --> 00:18:54.460 align:middle line:90%
may be coming this fall.

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But environmental
justice activists,

00:18:56.350 --> 00:18:58.330 align:middle line:84%
in places like Port
Arthur, are quite

00:18:58.330 --> 00:19:00.070 align:middle line:84%
disappointed by
the climate bill,

00:19:00.070 --> 00:19:04.870 align:middle line:84%
even as much of the climate
movement celebrates this bill.

00:19:04.870 --> 00:19:08.800 align:middle line:84%
And so this brings me to a basis
for our discussion or class

00:19:08.800 --> 00:19:12.340 align:middle line:84%
exercise that we're
going to have.

00:19:12.340 --> 00:19:16.150 align:middle line:84%
This is a geography article
by Heffron and McAuley,

00:19:16.150 --> 00:19:18.670 align:middle line:84%
asking what is a
just transition?

00:19:18.670 --> 00:19:23.440 align:middle line:84%
They identify four components
of a just transition--

00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:25.330 align:middle line:90%
justice, universality.

00:19:25.330 --> 00:19:26.680 align:middle line:90%
It's a geography article.

00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:29.260 align:middle line:84%
So they focus on space
and also the time.

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But I want to focus on the
different forms of justice

00:19:31.840 --> 00:19:34.420 align:middle line:84%
because I would argue that
there are rhetorical forms

00:19:34.420 --> 00:19:36.940 align:middle line:84%
or framings of the
idea of justice.

00:19:36.940 --> 00:19:38.470 align:middle line:90%
And they're all quite different.

00:19:38.470 --> 00:19:41.290 align:middle line:84%
There's the idea of
distributional justice.

00:19:41.290 --> 00:19:42.880 align:middle line:90%
There's procedural justice.

00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:44.810 align:middle line:90%
There's restorative justice.

00:19:44.810 --> 00:19:48.700 align:middle line:84%
They say there's different kind
of dimension of universality.

00:19:48.700 --> 00:19:51.580 align:middle line:84%
That universal forms of justice
may include recognition justice

00:19:51.580 --> 00:19:53.770 align:middle line:90%
and cosmopolitanism.

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Let's examine that a
little more closely--

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how Pai uses it
in their article.

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Distributional justice concerns
the equitable distribution

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of burdens and benefits of
energy and environmental

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decisions.

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Procedural justice
highlights the right

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to a fair process for
different stakeholders

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to take part equitably in
the decision-making process.

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Restorative justice
primarily aims

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to repair the harm done
to individuals, instead

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of focusing upon
punishing the offender.

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Whereas, universal
conceptions of justice

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do draw on these other
forms of justice.

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But Pai et al., distinguish
recognition justice

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as entailing recognition
of parts of society

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that might suffer as the result
of energy and environmental

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decisions, and identify
individuals and groups

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who might be impacted
by such decisions.

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The jump to
universality is to start

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to think about groups
of individuals,

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rather than specific harm
or specific individuals.

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And, of course,
cosmopolitan justice

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is an idea that reinforces all
of the above justice forms.

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But states that the
above forms of justice

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must apply universally
to all human beings.

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And I think it's
important for us

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to think about how our
conceptions of justice

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and how our rhetorical
framing of justice

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may apply to different groups.

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Does it apply
differently to people

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in cities or rural areas?

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Does it apply differently
to people involved

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in the fossil fuel industry,
whether or not they're white

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or they're Black, in
the United States?

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Do we expect that energy
workers in the United States

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should have the
same standard living

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as energy workers in other
countries, say India,

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say in Pakistan?

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What does this mean for
us-- for our conception

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of climate justice, depending on
the scale that we apply it to?

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And, of course, I would argue
that our idea of climate

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justice is fairly inseparable
from our idea of politics.

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Just to take the
climate part, this

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is a figure from
the Yale Project

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on Climate Communication.

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In 2018, they looked at
Democratic and Republican views

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of global warming.

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And when they asked
the estimated--

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registered voters if they were
worried about global warming,

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the percentages
are quite striking.

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You look here, in the left-hand
side, regardless of geography,

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about 80% to 90% of Democrats
are fairly concerned

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about global warming.

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If you look on the right-hand
side, about maybe 30% to 40%

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of Republicans are quite
concerned about global warming.

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This is not to
say that there are

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equal distributions of
Democrats and Republicans

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across the United States.

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But I would argue, for
the purposes of our class,

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talking about cities
and what cities can do,

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there may not be similar numbers
of Democrats or Republicans

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in city and rural areas.

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That's for sure.

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But, at the same time,
it's also quite possible

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that our partisanship
or our political beliefs

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may trump, necessarily,
where we live--

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I guess pun intended--

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and this may affect how
we talk about climate.

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Not only climate, but
even the word "justice"

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may resonate quite differently.

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We talk about racial
and social justice

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quite often in universities.

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I would argue that
justice may not

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be a frame or a phrase
that even carries very far

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outside of universities.

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For example, ideas
about fairness

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may resonate more deeply
with different audiences.

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Just to reinforce this
point, again, another

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figure from the Yale Project
on Climate Communication.

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This is from their
sixth American study.

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They have run, I think, 20
or so surveys since 2008,

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looking at the US
adults' populations

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attitudes about climate change.

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They ask questions
about race, ethnicity,

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partisan affiliation, or
political affiliation.

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And they find that they can
segment the US population

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overwhelmingly into six groups.

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On the left-side side, there's
the alarmed and concerned

00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:41.570 align:middle line:90%
groups.

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These are the groups
that have the highest

00:23:42.890 --> 00:23:43.970 align:middle line:90%
belief in global warming.

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They're most concerned
about climate change.

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They're most motivated
to do something about it.

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And on the right-hand
side, these four groups--

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the cautious, the
disengaged, the doubtful,

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and the dismissive--
have the lowest belief

00:23:55.100 --> 00:23:56.000 align:middle line:90%
in global warming.

00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:57.050 align:middle line:90%
They're least concerned.

00:23:57.050 --> 00:23:58.520 align:middle line:90%
They're least motivated.

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Of course, on the
left-hand side,

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these two groups,
alarmed and concerned,

00:24:02.630 --> 00:24:05.360 align:middle line:90%
are dominated by Democrats.

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The other four groups are
dominated by Republicans.

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The groups on the left tend to
skew younger and more female.

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The groups on the right tend
to skew older and more male.

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And so this is just
a question about how

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are we going to present the
idea of climate justice?

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Is this an idea that is
going to have traction

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with all six of these groups?

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We're going to
discuss this in class.

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Finally, there's this
interesting quiz,

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I kind of enjoyed taking.

00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:34.080 align:middle line:90%
It's The New York Times quiz.

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If America had six
parties, rather than two,

00:24:36.700 --> 00:24:38.260 align:middle line:90%
which would you belong to?

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This is a political
scientist simply commenting

00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.680 align:middle line:84%
on how our major political
parties are distributed

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or comprised of
different coalitions

00:24:47.290 --> 00:24:48.430 align:middle line:90%
and different groups.

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Those groups have
different social--

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certain levels of
social conservatism

00:24:52.540 --> 00:24:54.190 align:middle line:90%
and economic conservatism.

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For example, you could take
the American Labor Party,

00:24:56.500 --> 00:24:58.420 align:middle line:84%
Progressive Party,
and Neoliberal Party

00:24:58.420 --> 00:25:01.150 align:middle line:90%
as relatively democratic groups.

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But it turns out that
the American Labor

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Party and the Growth
and Opportunity Party,

00:25:05.370 --> 00:25:07.120 align:middle line:84%
probably more associated
with Republicans,

00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:10.747 align:middle line:84%
have similar attitudes
about social conservatism.

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At the same time, if
you look at the Patriot

00:25:12.580 --> 00:25:14.110 align:middle line:84%
Party, and the Christian
Conservative Party,

00:25:14.110 --> 00:25:15.880 align:middle line:84%
and the Growth and
Opportunity Party,

00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:19.150 align:middle line:84%
it turns out that part of
the Republican coalition

00:25:19.150 --> 00:25:22.240 align:middle line:84%
or Republican
Party is relatively

00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.490 align:middle line:84%
close to the economically
conservative group

00:25:24.490 --> 00:25:28.253 align:middle line:84%
in the Democratic coalition,
called the Neoliberal Party.

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And so this is to say that all
of our different rhetorical

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framings of justice--

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how we talk about history--

00:25:33.910 --> 00:25:35.050 align:middle line:90%
some of these ideas--

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how we talk about the imperative
to achieve climate justice--

00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:42.260 align:middle line:84%
may resonate differently
with all six of these groups.

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So what we're going to do
in our class discussion

00:25:44.612 --> 00:25:46.570 align:middle line:84%
is we're going to do a
discussion exercise that

00:25:46.570 --> 00:25:49.960 align:middle line:84%
requires you to argue for
different energy policy

00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:52.510 align:middle line:84%
based on different
conceptions of justice.

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And we're going to do this
as discussion together.

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And it's good for you to prepare
by looking at the Ramey et al.

00:25:59.710 --> 00:26:02.410 align:middle line:84%
article, looking at a
specific energy policy,

00:26:02.410 --> 00:26:04.450 align:middle line:84%
and thinking about how
different groups might

00:26:04.450 --> 00:26:07.410 align:middle line:90%
talk about this energy policy.

00:26:07.410 --> 00:26:23.000 align:middle line:90%