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DAVID HSU: My name is David Hsu.

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I'm a professor at MIT in the
Department of Urban Studies

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and Planning.

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I'd like to welcome
you to another lecture

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in my series on Urban
Energy Systems and Policy.

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Today, we're going
to talk about cities

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and industrial emissions.

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And what I want to do in
this class, in this lecture,

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is connect cities to the larger
issues of industrial emissions,

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partly because industrial
emissions don't always

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seem to be very
present in cities

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or don't seem to connect
to cities as centers

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of consumption, as I've
been talking to you

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about in this lecture series.

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But also, industrial emissions
are a considered an extremely

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tough-to-decarbonize sector.

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We have to replace
the electricity,

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but also crucially the heat.

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And the materials we use
in industrial systems

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to reduce our greenhouse gas
emissions, that doesn't always

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seem to be an area or
a scale at which cities

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can affect this kind of policy.

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But we'll explore
today in this lecture

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how cities can affect or reduce
their industrial emissions.

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The materials for today
are all in syllabus.

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If you have the PDFs,
then please go ahead

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and you can link
to these materials

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to read them before the lecture.

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The lecture will build
on these materials.

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And the themes I want
to focus on today

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are consumption as a mechanism
of greenhouse gas emissions.

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That's something
I've said to you

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before in previous lectures.

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I want to emphasize consumption
as a connection to larger

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energy systems.

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I think I've said to you also in
previous lectures how we often

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focus on changing the energy
system, how energy is produced,

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how it is transmitted,
but not always thinking

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about how we can change
how energy is consumed.

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I'll also argue, too,
in today's lecture

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that industrial
emissions have very

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strong environmental
justice implications.

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It also is perhaps connected
to our urban-rural,

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regional, and
political polarization

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over climate action.

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And then we'll finish today an
in-class discussion, thinking

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about how we might transform
this industrial system

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both within cities
and from cities also.

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And so if we just start with
MacKay's calculation in chapter

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15, he talks about
lifecycle analysis.

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He talks about the energy or
sustainable energy required

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to obtain raw materials, how do
we produce finished goods out

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of the raw materials, how do we
use those materials, acquiring

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energy.

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And ultimately, how do we
dispose or get rid of materials

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by calling it waste?

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It's something we talked about
in the last lecture on energy

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efficiency.

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And the materials he goes
through briefly in chapter 15

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are the production
of raw materials

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like aluminum or steel,
packaging, chips,

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semiconductors, paper, building,
construction, and roads,

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automaking.

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And of course, MacKay makes
the point that a lot of things

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aren't necessarily
made in the UK anymore.

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They're quite often imported.

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So that is embodied energy in
the form of materials and goods

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being brought into the UK.

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And surprisingly, if
we look in his stats--

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we haven't visited revisiting
this concept for a while.

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If you look at all
the previous chapters,

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we've talked about heating
and cooling and jet flights

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and cars--

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stuff and the
transporting of stuff

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is the largest category so far.

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And so far, by chapter
15, he is tipping us

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over into more consumption than
we can produce from sustainable

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energy resources on the right.

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If we just think about
some of these energy

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uses on the same
footing, the stuff

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per person that MacKay
calculates in Appendix H

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around is 41 kilowatt
hours per day.

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That's 41 kilowatt hours per
day as a rate of energy use.

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Hot water, hot air,
and cooling add up

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to roughly about 37
kilowatt hours per day.

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And the construction of the
house that MacKay estimates--

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I think a typical English house,
just the shell of the house

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itself is about 42,000
kilowatt hours over 100 years.

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The house is assumed
to last 100 years.

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So if you put that
on equal footing,

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it's only 1.2 kilowatt
hours per day.

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So we might conclude from these
back-of-the-envelope numbers

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in MacKay's book that materials
and construction aren't really

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a problem.

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Well, let's just question
this for a second.

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There's obvious reasons
why by putting things

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in the same footing, by
amortizing this energy over 100

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years, we might be
missing some things.

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First, the houses
that we construct now

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in this calculation are
assumed to last for 100 years.

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Not only does that assume
we don't retrofit or modify

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them or redecorate them or
demolish in the next 100

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years, which is obviously an
assumption that probably does

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not hold in many North
American cities, let

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alone vast developing
countries, but also, it

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assumes that the house
construction that we do today

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is essentially baked in.

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We're locking in that
energy construction now.

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We're locking the
energy implications

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of that house construction now.

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And we're actually omitting the
carbon emissions of that now.

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So not only do we
calculate this energy basis

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and average it over
the next 100 years,

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but it matters much
more if we actually do

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a lot of construction and emit
a lot of carbon now-- much more

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today than 100 years from now.

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As I've said to you
multiple times this class,

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we have a mid-century
goal of 2050.

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If we assume that
we're going to stop

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doing any construction
after this next 10 years,

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that might be one thing.

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But we've still frontloaded our
energy or our carbon emissions

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today for the next 100 years.

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We can make this assumption.

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So perhaps averaging
everything over 100 years

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is not the way we
should think about it.

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But another argument
I want to make to you

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is that there's definitely
different implications

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of industrial emissions for
livelihood and climate action.

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In one of the
previous lectures--

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I think even the second
lecture for this class,

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I talked to you
about Robert Bullard.

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Robert Bullard is an
environmental justice scholar--

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really in some ways, the father
of environmental justice.

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And as I said to you
in the second lecture,

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he discovered early on in
his career as a sociologist

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that 100% of the
landfills in Houston

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were located in
Black neighborhoods,

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though the Black
population was only 25%

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of Houston's population.

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At the same time,
this paper we read

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by Sandeep Pai and others--

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this is the same author.

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He recently wrote a book
called Total Transition.

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And it's called The Human
Side of the Renewable Energy

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Revolution because he focuses
on workers in the fossil fuel

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industries, and argues that
if we have a renewable energy

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revolution, it is going to
disproportionately affect

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these workers.

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So he investigates the
situations of workers

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both in India and in Canada.

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And these two things
are not unconnected.

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First, the environmental justice
implications of fossil fuel use

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and consumption and
production, focused on

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by Robert Bullard
and Shalanda Baker--

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if you remember that article
we read maybe a few weeks back.

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But Sandeep Pai also
says that in terms

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of justice implications,
there's obviously

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a very large literature
review focusing

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on a large literature looking
at why this is going to affect

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workers and why
workers might resist

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trying to take climate action.

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A similar argument has been
made by Matto Mildenberger

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in his book Carbon Capture.

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He argues that our coalitions
for climate action are also,

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we have to recognize, split.

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Business and labor
have influence

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on the left and right coalitions
for or opposing climate action.

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So he argues that climate
action in multiple countries

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has been stymied by the fact
that even for coalitions that

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argue for climate action,
business and labor have

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had substantial influence
in stopping or exempting

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certain industries
from climate action.

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And so just to give you
another sense of how cities

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are connected to
industrial nations,

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quite often in
this class, you're

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talking about cities that have
relatively high population

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density and population.

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Looking at the population
density and population

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in the United States,
this vertical axis

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is the log of
population density.

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The horizontal axis is the
industrial greenhouse gas

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emissions as a percentage
of the total greenhouse gas

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emissions for the county.

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This is all calculated from
EPA'S industrial greenhouse gas

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figures.

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You can click on this link
and see the numbers there,

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or calculate them
yourself if you want.

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But the point is
for cities, if you

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look at the log of
population density,

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you can see in the United States
we have a nice bell curve.

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If you put a histogram on
the side or a density plot

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on the side, the log
of population density,

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it is relatively
bell curve-shaped.

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You can see, that means if we
take the population density,

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we have a few cities that
are very high in population

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density like New York.

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And the vast majority of cities
are lower population density,

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but I take the log because
it makes the data clearer.

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And so if you consider, for
example, the highest population

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density and population
counties in each state,

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Cook County is the seat
of Chicago, Illinois.

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You can see how it's mostly
low individual greenhouse gas

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emissions as a
percentage of total.

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For the other highest population
density and population counties

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in each state, that's true
for Maricopa County, which

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is the home of Phoenix,
Arizona, Dallas County, which

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is the seat of Dallas, Texas,
King County, Washington,

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Seattle, as well with
low industrial emissions.

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Wayne County is the
seat of Detroit.

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And New York County is one of
the four very high population

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counties that comprise New York.

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And so generally,
the way we talk

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about cities as
centers of consumption,

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if these are the cities
that come to mind,

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then yes, we have relatively
low industrial emissions

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associated with cities.

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But now let's look
at this chart.

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If we look at this
chart, we can see

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that there's all these
other cities out here that

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have much higher industrial
greenhouse gas emissions.

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Which cities are those?

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Which counties are those?

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If we look at the--

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Philadelphia also has relatively
low industrial emissions

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as a percentage of its total.

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But if we look at the
highest population

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density and relatively high
industrial-emitting counties

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in each state, then we get
to a different set of cities

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that we don't often talk
about in urban planning.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma, Newcastle,
Delaware have about a quarter

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of their greenhouse gas
emissions are from industry.

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Denver, Colorado, has relatively
high greenhouse gas emissions.

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Jefferson County in Alabama has
relatively high greenhouse gas

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emissions.

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Dallas, again, shows up on
this list, and about 20%

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of its emissions are
from greenhouse gas--

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20% of its greenhouse gas
emissions of its total.

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So it's higher than other
cities that we looked at.

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And Cuyahoga County in
Ohio, the seat of Cleveland,

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also has surprisingly higher,
but still relatively low,

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greenhouse gas emissions.

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Let's look at some
of the cities that

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have extremely high
industrial emissions

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as a percentage of the total.

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What are those
cities and counties?

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If we look at the highest
industrial-emitting counties

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with high population
densities, East Baton Rouge,

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Saint John the Baptist
County, Calcasieu County--

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mispronounced that, and St.
Charles County and Ascension

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County are all in Louisiana.

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In fact, if we go back
to Robert Bullard,

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the reason why he started
studying environmental justice

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the first place, you can see
that the highest population

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density and
industrial-emitting counties

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are all in Louisiana,
Texas, Virginia.

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These are not only
places that are

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concentrated in a few states.

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Remarkably high proportions of
their greenhouse gas emissions

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come from industry--

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about 70%, up to
92%, in Covington,

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Virginia that have
extremely high populations

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for their area.

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They have very high
population densities.

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But also, what I
want to emphasize

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to you is that they have
extremely high nonwhite

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populations that, in
this case, not only are

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the people subject
to the consequences

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or the burdens of
industrial emissions.

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But these are all
people who also may work

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in these industries as well.

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So this hopefully brings
into focus the way

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that these different
ideas about livelihood

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and environmental burden and
climate action can coincide.

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All of these counties are
extremely high percentages

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of nonwhite population, in
many cases African-Americans.

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They have high
population densities.

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These are essentially
highly urbanized areas,

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and they are areas
that also have

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very high industrial emissions.

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This is an area in
Louisiana, I guess,

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known recently as Cancer Alley.

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It's a phrase used in this
ProPublica investigation about

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"Welcome to 'Cancer Alley,'
Where Toxic Air Is About to Get

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Much Worse."

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The article is about how
air quality has improved

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for decades across
the United states,

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but Louisiana's backsliding
because their analysis found

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that many new industrial
plants will increase

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the concentration of
cancer-causing chemicals

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in predominantly Black
and poor communities.

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So if we think about cities'
industrial emissions,

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it's not only cities like
New York that are perhaps

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centers of consumption.

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But other cities actually
have high concentrations

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of industrial pollution
within the city boundaries,

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or the county
boundaries as well.

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If we look at how fossil fuel
infrastructure is distributed

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across the US, these
are some graphics

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that my student Darryle Ulama
and I made a few years ago

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from the US Energy Information
Administration and Homeland

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Security data.

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You can see power
plants are relatively

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distributed across the US.

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This graphic of coal, natural
gas, and petroleum plants

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effectively follows the
population or the urban pattern

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of the United States.

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But you can see
that natural gas is

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highly concentrated in the
exact places we've just

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talked about--

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Texas and Louisiana prefer.

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Virginia is a different
case, I think, out there.

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If we look at natural gas,
it's highly concentrated here,

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partly because
import and export,

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but also because of
petrochemical refining

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and production.

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And if we look at only
oil and petroleum,

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you can see our pipelines again
run from Texas, Louisiana,

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pretty much following the urban
patterns of the United States.

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We look at cumulative
impacts, yes, we

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see fossil fuel infrastructure
concentrated across the United

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States.

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But clearly, based on
the industrial emissions

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we looked at before,
the industrial emissions

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are very differently
distributed across urban areas

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the United States,
which brings me

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to the Ahman et al, 2017, paper.

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Just to focus on
this paper, it's

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about global
climate policies for

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energy-intensive industries.

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We're going to go through
a bunch of acronyms here.

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At the global level, we have
energy-intensive industries

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like steel, cement, aluminum,
fertilizer, and plastics.

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That's EII.

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BATs are the best-available
technologies.

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But crucially, the paper
argues that they only

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reduce emissions 15%
or 30% So hopefully,

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in the five years since
this paper was written,

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we've come up with
more ideas for how

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to decarbonize industry.

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But at least the best available
technologies five years ago

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only reduced emissions a
fraction of what we need.

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There's a number
of other acronyms

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quite often about international
climate negotiations--

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common-but-differentiated
responsibilities, CBDRs.

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Clean development
mechanism, CDM--

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this is a mechanism
intended for rich countries

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to help poor countries
decarbonize and meet

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their INDCs, their intended
nationally-determined

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contributions.

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This is what we said in the
Paris Climate Agreement.

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Every country came,
said what their intended

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nationally-determined
contribution was of the INDC.

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Basically, every
country came and said

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this is the best we could
do on climate change.

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Of course, there's
a lot of discussion

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now in climate policy about
border carbon adjustments.

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These are the border
carbon adjustments

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that rich countries
might use to try

00:16:27.630 --> 00:16:33.180 align:middle line:84%
to account for the embodied
energy that they're importing,

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but also that's hopefully not
causing additional leakage

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of jobs to other countries.

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In other words,
if other countries

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seem like they have low
greenhouse gas consumption

00:16:44.100 --> 00:16:45.960 align:middle line:84%
or emissions associated
with consumption,

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and maybe because they're
actually exporting their goods

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to rich countries.

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So both rich and poor countries
have proposed border carbon

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adjustments, where
we can hopefully

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account for this at the border
when materials and goods are

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imported.

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And finally, CCS
is something we're

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going to talk about
a lot going forward.

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Carbon capture
and storage, often

00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:11.619 align:middle line:84%
called carbon capture,
utilization, and storage now.

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Just to give you a sense
of where greenhouse gas

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emissions have gone, this is
a plot from the Ahman paper.

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If the data is
normalized in 1990,

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when the UN started
accounting, you

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could see that world
emissions have gone up.

00:17:26.980 --> 00:17:29.980 align:middle line:84%
Emissions in Japan and
the EU have gone down.

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In the US, they've
stayed relatively flat,

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either industrial, direct
greenhouse gas emissions.

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But obviously, rapidly
developing countries

00:17:37.150 --> 00:17:40.660 align:middle line:84%
like China, India, and
Brazil have rapidly

00:17:40.660 --> 00:17:42.610 align:middle line:84%
increased their
greenhouse gas emissions.

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But we should also recognize
that these greenhouse gas

00:17:44.860 --> 00:17:48.130 align:middle line:84%
emissions have increased
in these countries because

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of their exports to the
rich and developed world.

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And so this brings
up fundamental issues

00:17:54.090 --> 00:17:57.810 align:middle line:84%
of efficiency,
equity, and fairness.

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There's a lot of
issues that need

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to be negotiated within
and between countries

00:18:01.230 --> 00:18:03.060 align:middle line:90%
around industrial emissions.

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There's the idea
of carbon leakage.

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This is where there will be
a loss of competitiveness

00:18:07.380 --> 00:18:11.660 align:middle line:84%
and relocation of industry
to other countries.

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There's questions about
political stability,

00:18:13.820 --> 00:18:16.340 align:middle line:84%
transportation infrastructure,
labor legislation

00:18:16.340 --> 00:18:19.910 align:middle line:84%
and protections, access
to markets and feedstock,

00:18:19.910 --> 00:18:21.640 align:middle line:90%
and industrial policy.

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The reason why we're talking
about it in this urban planning

00:18:24.140 --> 00:18:26.630 align:middle line:84%
class is that we think
about all these as issues

00:18:26.630 --> 00:18:29.300 align:middle line:84%
to be negotiated within
and between countries.

00:18:29.300 --> 00:18:31.460 align:middle line:84%
The key issue for
cities is how do we

00:18:31.460 --> 00:18:35.390 align:middle line:84%
negotiate these issues between
cities and within countries?

00:18:35.390 --> 00:18:39.230 align:middle line:84%
In other words, again, if we
have centers of consumption,

00:18:39.230 --> 00:18:41.330 align:middle line:84%
quite often on
the coasts, we are

00:18:41.330 --> 00:18:43.220 align:middle line:84%
drawing on industrial
emissions that

00:18:43.220 --> 00:18:44.630 align:middle line:84%
are in other parts
of the country

00:18:44.630 --> 00:18:46.220 align:middle line:90%
or other parts of the world.

00:18:46.220 --> 00:18:48.440 align:middle line:84%
How do we account
for this consumption?

00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:52.760 align:middle line:84%
What do relatively rich
developed areas, such as cities

00:18:52.760 --> 00:18:56.870 align:middle line:84%
in North America, have to do
to account for their emissions

00:18:56.870 --> 00:19:01.070 align:middle line:84%
or how to make up for
their consumption?

00:19:01.070 --> 00:19:03.190 align:middle line:84%
So this again is a
good time to focus

00:19:03.190 --> 00:19:06.400 align:middle line:84%
on how we can scale down some
of these national policies.

00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:09.250 align:middle line:84%
And I'll argue to you that
a lot of these policies that

00:19:09.250 --> 00:19:11.860 align:middle line:84%
exist at the national level
that are discussed in this Ahman

00:19:11.860 --> 00:19:17.130 align:middle line:84%
paper also have equivalents
at the urban scale.

00:19:17.130 --> 00:19:19.670 align:middle line:84%
For example, in the
first policy here, we

00:19:19.670 --> 00:19:21.440 align:middle line:84%
have mitigation
policies and measures

00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:23.570 align:middle line:84%
that have an intended,
direct effect.

00:19:23.570 --> 00:19:25.940 align:middle line:84%
We have mitigation policies
and measures with intended

00:19:25.940 --> 00:19:26.900 align:middle line:90%
long-term effects.

00:19:26.900 --> 00:19:29.900 align:middle line:84%
In the EU, we had a
regulated target for industry

00:19:29.900 --> 00:19:32.390 align:middle line:84%
together with the power sector
to reduce its greenhouse gas

00:19:32.390 --> 00:19:35.870 align:middle line:84%
emissions via the
emissions trading scheme.

00:19:35.870 --> 00:19:38.840 align:middle line:84%
We've obviously discussed
possible emissions

00:19:38.840 --> 00:19:40.520 align:middle line:90%
trading schemes in the US.

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Not only does California have
an emissions trading scheme

00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:45.020 align:middle line:90%
within California.

00:19:45.020 --> 00:19:48.620 align:middle line:84%
We have the Regional Greenhouse
Gas Initiative, RGGI,

00:19:48.620 --> 00:19:52.550 align:middle line:84%
on the East Coast, trying to
trade emissions within the East

00:19:52.550 --> 00:19:54.420 align:middle line:90%
Coast or mid-Atlantic states.

00:19:54.420 --> 00:19:55.940 align:middle line:84%
We also have the
Clean Power Plan,

00:19:55.940 --> 00:19:59.360 align:middle line:84%
which would allow the power
sector in different states

00:19:59.360 --> 00:20:02.630 align:middle line:84%
to meet emissions targets
in different ways.

00:20:02.630 --> 00:20:05.210 align:middle line:84%
Regulations reducing emissions
of industrial gases--

00:20:05.210 --> 00:20:07.280 align:middle line:84%
I think some states
have increased,

00:20:07.280 --> 00:20:10.820 align:middle line:84%
like RGGI in California, having
these regulations designed

00:20:10.820 --> 00:20:13.280 align:middle line:84%
to reduce emissions
of industrial gases.

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And there's energy
efficiency directives

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that can be applied differently
at the city and state level.

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We also have, in our
most recent legislation,

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the Inflation Reduction Act.

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We have funding for
demonstration of carbon capture

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and storage and
bioenergy for sure.

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Japan has implementation
of voluntary action plans

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by industries for promoting
energy efficiency.

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Obviously, in the
last few classes,

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we've talked about
how cities have

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implemented different
energy efficiency programs.

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We also have subsidies for
increasing the adoption

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of best-available technologies.

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We have a low carbon technology
roadmap relevant to steel.

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I think we have that in our
new Inflation Reduction Act

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legislation.

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We definitely have roadmaps
for low carbon production

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of industrial production.

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And finally, the ENERGY
STAR program for industry

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for adopting energy-efficient
technologies,

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this is purely a
US-level policy.

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But as I spoke to you
about benchmarking,

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benchmarking is essentially
built on ENERGY STAR.

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We have benchmarking
programs to encourage

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adoption of energy
efficient technologies

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in buildings and so on.

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Now, the interesting part for
cities and industrial emissions

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is the policies that exist in
developing countries arguably

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could be applied to
cities that are producing

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a lot of industrial emission--
like we talked about,

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Louisiana, Texas, and Virginia,
and other parts of the country.

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We have major programs on
energy efficiency in industry.

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In China, we have
mandated phase-out

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of outdated backward industries.

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We have pricing policies
that favor energy efficiency.

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And we have major clean
development mechanisms

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to help China basically
phase out non-CO2 gases.

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We have other schemes
in India and Brazil,

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such as sectoral
plans for industry,

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including energy
conservation programs.

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These are all things that
can and are being applied

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to industrial emissions
in cities that have more

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higher industrial emissions.

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This brings me to
the Rissman paper--

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this Rissman paper
with many co-authors.

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We're going to use
this as the basis

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for our discussion in class.

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And what I want to emphasize
to you, just maybe a few points

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in the paper before we go
into the discussion together,

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this is a figure showing
emissions by sector.

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The left-hand side has the
groupings by sector, including,

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let's say for
buildings, indirect

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and direct energy-related
emissions is 24% of heat,

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and electricity
emissions is aggregated.

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If we group heat, electricity,
and heat emissions together,

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buildings only seem
to be about 8%.

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But this is a
considerable divergence

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from where we started
the lecture from.

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In other words, buildings
consume a very large portion

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of energy in this
aggregated view of both heat

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and electricity emissions.

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If we group it together, then
we hide some of the building

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emissions in the power sector.

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But if we look specifically
at how much energy

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or how much emissions
are associated

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with different
sectors by industry,

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you can see the
number two or three

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are iron, steel, chemicals,
and plastics and cement.

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Aluminum, refining,
machinery, pulp and paper--

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all of these various
manufacturing or production

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activities result in high
greenhouse gas emissions.

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These are a significant fraction
of the world's greenhouse gas

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emissions we've
been talking about.

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So what we'll talk about
in our class discussion

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are various policies
and interventions.

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On the supply side,
some of the ones

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that students were
interested in last year

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were carbon capture utilization
storage, low carbon development

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for developing countries.

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How could we apply
that to cities?

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Worker retraining
programs, firms influencing

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government decisions, low-carbon
steel production, electrolysis,

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renewable energy
production, electrification,

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hydrogen production and use.

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On the demand side,
students discussed

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[INAUDIBLE] material
substitution,

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material efficiency,
reduced material use,

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sharing of public goods,
efficiency standards,

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the circular economy,
data transparency,

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and of course building codes.

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Thank you very much.

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I look forward to our
discussion in class in person.

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