1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,139 GUEST SPEAKER: Dear secretary of the interior, 2 00:00:13,139 --> 00:00:14,680 thank you for inviting me to weigh in 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,600 on this very important counter study 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,640 to and indefensible claim by the heritage society. 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,160 As you know, this conservative organization 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,957 is pushing for free enterprise in limited government. 7 00:00:24,957 --> 00:00:26,540 So they're merely trying to deregulate 8 00:00:26,540 --> 00:00:29,270 to support free enterprise and to help their allies, 9 00:00:29,270 --> 00:00:31,630 including industry to save some money. 10 00:00:31,630 --> 00:00:33,970 As you know, in 1970 the EPA was formed 11 00:00:33,970 --> 00:00:36,230 to control the extreme pollution of water and air 12 00:00:36,230 --> 00:00:37,130 in this country. 13 00:00:37,130 --> 00:00:39,830 These conditions were causing fish kills, bird [INAUDIBLE],, 14 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:42,094 and having negative effects on human health. 15 00:00:42,094 --> 00:00:44,510 [INAUDIBLE] control policy suggests that clean [INAUDIBLE] 16 00:00:44,510 --> 00:00:47,330 were established, also in 1970, to regulate 17 00:00:47,330 --> 00:00:48,700 the use of these pollutants. 18 00:00:48,700 --> 00:00:50,950 The goal was to protect the ecosystem and human health 19 00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:52,610 for future generations. 20 00:00:52,610 --> 00:00:55,090 And so far, it's been effective from the point 21 00:00:55,090 --> 00:00:57,330 of view of scientists and environmental advocates. 22 00:00:57,330 --> 00:00:58,030 It's a success. 23 00:00:58,030 --> 00:00:59,730 Pollution has been vastly reduced 24 00:00:59,730 --> 00:01:01,188 to [INAUDIBLE] [? implementation ?] 25 00:01:01,188 --> 00:01:03,940 these policies and this is a tremendous achievement, 26 00:01:03,940 --> 00:01:07,780 so why stop now is our argument. 27 00:01:07,780 --> 00:01:10,070 There are still extremely endangered ecosystems 28 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:12,250 in the country and industries are constantly 29 00:01:12,250 --> 00:01:16,510 inventing new products that have new negative effects 30 00:01:16,510 --> 00:01:20,000 on the environment that we're not yet aware of. 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,240 So the study we conduct to challenge the heritage 32 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,490 societies claims will have four parts. 33 00:01:25,490 --> 00:01:27,780 First, we'll focus on science benchmarks. 34 00:01:27,780 --> 00:01:31,080 We'll also focus on topic opinion, 35 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,820 propose an administrative review of the EPA, 36 00:01:33,820 --> 00:01:36,100 and a review by the Justice Department. 37 00:01:36,100 --> 00:01:38,410 So for our first pillar, the scientific measurements 38 00:01:38,410 --> 00:01:41,440 will hire an outside team of environmental scientists 39 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,590 to evaluate air and water quality 40 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:45,970 and how it has improved since 1970. 41 00:01:45,970 --> 00:01:47,880 Scientists must also prove that threats 42 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,260 to the health of our environment, 43 00:01:49,260 --> 00:01:51,630 to our clean air and water, still exists 44 00:01:51,630 --> 00:01:54,520 and that regulation of anything should be expanded and improved 45 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,800 and not reduced or terminated. 46 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,760 We need to frame our study and focus on scientific results 47 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,380 to counter the heritage societies 48 00:02:02,380 --> 00:02:05,480 focus on economic results. 49 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,691 We will design a study based on science and numbers, 50 00:02:07,691 --> 00:02:09,190 because that is how you will measure 51 00:02:09,190 --> 00:02:13,750 the efficacy of a program like the clean air act. 52 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:16,280 So focus on how you improve vehicle emissions, 53 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,150 how efficient bird have bounced back. 54 00:02:19,150 --> 00:02:20,970 And this will help legitimate our study 55 00:02:20,970 --> 00:02:23,020 in the eyes of the scientific community 56 00:02:23,020 --> 00:02:25,580 and we'll also involve the scientific community. 57 00:02:25,580 --> 00:02:27,780 We can also come at this from an angle that 58 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:30,730 will satisfy the business community and congress. 59 00:02:30,730 --> 00:02:33,340 We can require companies to maintain certain air quality 60 00:02:33,340 --> 00:02:36,660 standards as a means to spur innovation. 61 00:02:36,660 --> 00:02:39,770 We've been innovative in this regard so far. 62 00:02:39,770 --> 00:02:44,665 We've invented cleaner fuels, renewable energy 63 00:02:44,665 --> 00:02:47,290 and we believe that the American people can invent even better, 64 00:02:47,290 --> 00:02:49,600 cleaner technologies and the regulation 65 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,340 will help inspire that. 66 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:55,420 Our second component will focus on the public stance 67 00:02:55,420 --> 00:02:57,610 on the issue of environmental protection. 68 00:02:57,610 --> 00:03:00,460 We're in an unprecedented era in environmental awareness 69 00:03:00,460 --> 00:03:02,650 and the public is completely behind it. 70 00:03:02,650 --> 00:03:05,770 I'd like to bring your attention to a very revealing ruling that 71 00:03:05,770 --> 00:03:09,040 just came out in the last few weeks in Massachusetts. 72 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,700 Two men used their lobster boat to block a coal shipment 73 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:14,470 from passing through the channel on its way 74 00:03:14,470 --> 00:03:16,570 to Brayton Point Power Plant. 75 00:03:16,570 --> 00:03:19,120 The men were on trial for several counts 76 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,600 and faced several years in jail and the judge 77 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,190 ruled that he approved the use of necessity 78 00:03:24,190 --> 00:03:26,140 as a defense for their actions. 79 00:03:26,140 --> 00:03:27,810 In order to use the necessity defense, 80 00:03:27,810 --> 00:03:31,666 you have to prove that you were in clear and imminent danger. 81 00:03:31,666 --> 00:03:33,040 And in this instance, the defense 82 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,050 argues the men in their communities 83 00:03:35,050 --> 00:03:38,510 were in clear and imminent danger of climate change. 84 00:03:38,510 --> 00:03:40,700 So the judge decreed they had no legal alternative 85 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:42,491 to protect themselves and their communities 86 00:03:42,491 --> 00:03:45,050 other than to try to block the coal shipment. 87 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:47,920 So the prosecutors subsequently dropped the charges. 88 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,030 So obviously this is a totally unprecedented case. 89 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:54,970 This is an exciting time for environmental progressives. 90 00:03:54,970 --> 00:03:56,932 Judges are going rouge on this issue 91 00:03:56,932 --> 00:03:58,640 and they're allowing people a lot of room 92 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,338 to maneuver, to fight environmental problems, 93 00:04:01,338 --> 00:04:03,254 so we want to design a policy [INAUDIBLE] that 94 00:04:03,254 --> 00:04:06,380 involves the public energy as much as possible. 95 00:04:06,380 --> 00:04:08,300 So we're going to educate the public, 96 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:09,883 we're going to use some of our funding 97 00:04:09,883 --> 00:04:12,100 to organize conferences and small community advisory 98 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:12,607 committees. 99 00:04:12,607 --> 00:04:15,190 These committees will call small meetings in their communities 100 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:18,750 and discuss the EPA's [INAUDIBLE] control policies 101 00:04:18,750 --> 00:04:20,380 and they can weigh in on whether or not 102 00:04:20,380 --> 00:04:23,250 they think those policies should continue at this time. 103 00:04:23,250 --> 00:04:25,000 This method will give our study legitimacy 104 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,940 in the eyes of the public and in the eyes 105 00:04:26,940 --> 00:04:31,900 of congress, who depend on the public for voting. 106 00:04:31,900 --> 00:04:34,830 I highly doubt a heritage society did a public assessment 107 00:04:34,830 --> 00:04:37,024 or reached out to the public in their review, 108 00:04:37,024 --> 00:04:38,440 so basically, we'll get our study, 109 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,500 that added legitimacy that we involved the public opinion. 110 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:43,420 And then, come election time, the public 111 00:04:43,420 --> 00:04:46,150 will play a role in the political evaluation 112 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:51,040 of the heritage societies policy suggestions. 113 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,300 And we'll also ask the public to consider who the heritage 114 00:04:54,300 --> 00:04:56,620 society is serving in trying to overturn 115 00:04:56,620 --> 00:04:59,300 these important policies. 116 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:01,270 The courts finally ruled that the BP oil 117 00:05:01,270 --> 00:05:05,430 spill was the result of gross negligence and so we can ask, 118 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:07,930 are these the types of behaviors the heritage society thinks 119 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:10,691 we no longer need to regulate against. 120 00:05:10,691 --> 00:05:11,190 OK. 121 00:05:11,190 --> 00:05:14,590 Third component, we're going to play the business community 122 00:05:14,590 --> 00:05:16,165 into the heritage society by holding 123 00:05:16,165 --> 00:05:19,020 an administrative review of the EPA. 124 00:05:19,020 --> 00:05:21,550 They are arguing against the efficiency of the program. 125 00:05:21,550 --> 00:05:24,130 The EPA has had some organizational problems in 126 00:05:24,130 --> 00:05:28,510 the last few decades, so we're going to go ahead and help them 127 00:05:28,510 --> 00:05:31,360 out with that and also better-- 128 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,900 organize better [? about ?] EPA is good for everybody. 129 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:37,840 And that will satisfy the business community, also, 130 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:39,700 to have some of that what they see 131 00:05:39,700 --> 00:05:41,590 as wasteful practices reduced. 132 00:05:41,590 --> 00:05:43,173 Our fourth review method, like I said, 133 00:05:43,173 --> 00:05:45,094 is to involve the Justice Department 134 00:05:45,094 --> 00:05:47,760 and I'll remind you again of the instance of the judge releasing 135 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,980 the environmental activists who blocked the coal barge. 136 00:05:50,980 --> 00:05:52,720 So the Justice Department, as a whole, 137 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,075 we think should take a stand on this issue of the right 138 00:05:55,075 --> 00:05:57,440 to clean air and water, so we're requesting 139 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,200 a judicial review of the constitutionality of removing 140 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,460 [INAUDIBLE] policies designed to protect 141 00:06:02,460 --> 00:06:04,274 the people and the environment. 142 00:06:04,274 --> 00:06:06,190 So in conclusion, I agree with you, secretary, 143 00:06:06,190 --> 00:06:08,856 that the study by the heritage society is bogus 144 00:06:08,856 --> 00:06:11,230 and we need to organize our own review of command control 145 00:06:11,230 --> 00:06:13,550 policies that highlight their value. 146 00:06:13,550 --> 00:06:15,100 PROFESSOR: Thank you.