WEBVTT

00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.640 align:middle line:84%
The following content is
provided under a Creative

00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:04.000 align:middle line:90%
Commons license.

00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:06.400 align:middle line:84%
Your support will help
MIT OpenCourseWare

00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:10.080 align:middle line:84%
continue to offer high-quality
educational resources for free.

00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:13.320 align:middle line:84%
To make a donation or
view additional materials

00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:17.280 align:middle line:84%
from hundreds of MIT courses,
visit MIT OpenCourseWare

00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:18.560 align:middle line:90%
at ocw.mit.edu.

00:00:18.560 --> 00:00:21.440 align:middle line:90%


00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:24.160 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: So what
we've been talking about

00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:30.400 align:middle line:84%
is looking at the formation
of, in the upper ocean,

00:00:30.400 --> 00:00:35.480 align:middle line:84%
of particulate organic matter
that would then gravitationally

00:00:35.480 --> 00:00:44.000 align:middle line:84%
sink, and some fraction of it
would be respired at depth.

00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:48.440 align:middle line:84%
And then we talked
some on Tuesday

00:00:48.440 --> 00:00:53.780 align:middle line:84%
also about dissolved organic
matter that would be advected,

00:00:53.780 --> 00:00:56.320 align:middle line:84%
and some of it would
end up in the deep ocean

00:00:56.320 --> 00:01:01.050 align:middle line:90%
where it would be respired.

00:01:01.050 --> 00:01:04.730 align:middle line:84%
We're going to finish up
this section of the class

00:01:04.730 --> 00:01:07.650 align:middle line:90%
by looking at--

00:01:07.650 --> 00:01:10.570 align:middle line:84%
rather than looking at the
particulate organic matter

00:01:10.570 --> 00:01:13.510 align:middle line:84%
and the dissolved
organic matter itself,

00:01:13.510 --> 00:01:19.422 align:middle line:84%
we're going to look at
the geochemical signatures

00:01:19.422 --> 00:01:23.250 align:middle line:84%
of the respiration
and remineralization

00:01:23.250 --> 00:01:29.050 align:middle line:84%
of this organic matter on carbon
nutrients, and a little bit

00:01:29.050 --> 00:01:31.290 align:middle line:90%
at the end on calcium--

00:01:31.290 --> 00:01:36.290 align:middle line:84%
the effect of remineralization
of calcium carbonate and opal.

00:01:36.290 --> 00:01:44.170 align:middle line:84%
And in fact, a lot of the early
information on respiration

00:01:44.170 --> 00:01:49.090 align:middle line:84%
and remineralization pathways
were not actually discovered

00:01:49.090 --> 00:01:51.330 align:middle line:84%
based on putting
out sediment traps

00:01:51.330 --> 00:01:53.410 align:middle line:84%
and measuring particulate
organic matter

00:01:53.410 --> 00:01:56.010 align:middle line:84%
or looking at dissolved
organic matter,

00:01:56.010 --> 00:01:59.860 align:middle line:84%
they were based on looking
at the oxygen gradients,

00:01:59.860 --> 00:02:03.840 align:middle line:84%
the nutrient gradients,
and more recently,

00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:09.479 align:middle line:84%
the DIC and alkalinity
distributions in the deep ocean.

00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:14.380 align:middle line:90%


00:02:14.380 --> 00:02:17.140 align:middle line:84%
And in particular, what
we'll be looking at today

00:02:17.140 --> 00:02:20.740 align:middle line:84%
is the geochemical
signatures, and then also

00:02:20.740 --> 00:02:28.320 align:middle line:84%
estimates of the respiration
and remineralization rates.

00:02:28.320 --> 00:02:35.900 align:middle line:90%


00:02:35.900 --> 00:02:41.060 align:middle line:84%
So simply looking at the
geochemical signatures

00:02:41.060 --> 00:02:43.800 align:middle line:84%
gives you a sense of where
things might be occurring,

00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.660 align:middle line:84%
but it doesn't tell you
how fast it's occurring.

00:02:46.660 --> 00:02:49.300 align:middle line:84%
And so we need to
combine information

00:02:49.300 --> 00:02:52.980 align:middle line:84%
on the special distributions
of oxygen nutrients, DIC,

00:02:52.980 --> 00:02:57.310 align:middle line:84%
and alkalinity with, for
example, transient tracers

00:02:57.310 --> 00:03:04.870 align:middle line:84%
to actually get at the rates
that you could then compare

00:03:04.870 --> 00:03:08.630 align:middle line:84%
with, say, your estimates
of the divergence of sinking

00:03:08.630 --> 00:03:12.210 align:middle line:84%
particulate organic matter and
see if everything held together,

00:03:12.210 --> 00:03:15.630 align:middle line:84%
see if attacking the problem
from two different directions

00:03:15.630 --> 00:03:19.350 align:middle line:90%
gave you a consistent story.

00:03:19.350 --> 00:03:24.070 align:middle line:84%
So, just as a reminder,
we'll be talking--

00:03:24.070 --> 00:03:28.430 align:middle line:84%
to convert back and forth again
between the different elemental

00:03:28.430 --> 00:03:30.150 align:middle line:90%
currencies.

00:03:30.150 --> 00:03:35.110 align:middle line:84%
We'll be using the Redfield
elemental stoichiometries,

00:03:35.110 --> 00:03:40.070 align:middle line:84%
and we'll talk a little bit
about how those were actually

00:03:40.070 --> 00:03:42.470 align:middle line:84%
determined, and
in part, that was

00:03:42.470 --> 00:03:46.070 align:middle line:84%
based on these
geochemical signatures.

00:03:46.070 --> 00:03:48.610 align:middle line:84%
There's lots of different
variants on this,

00:03:48.610 --> 00:03:53.470 align:middle line:84%
and we've talked about
that, but most of the ones

00:03:53.470 --> 00:04:00.320 align:middle line:84%
that I was able to find from
a survey of the literature--

00:04:00.320 --> 00:04:05.320 align:middle line:84%
I should say an unscientific,
informal survey,

00:04:05.320 --> 00:04:08.760 align:middle line:84%
if you looked at the
ratio of carbon organic

00:04:08.760 --> 00:04:13.480 align:middle line:84%
to nitrogen to
phosphorus to the oxygen

00:04:13.480 --> 00:04:17.079 align:middle line:84%
demand for the respiration
of this organic matter,

00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:19.640 align:middle line:90%
the ratio was something like--

00:04:19.640 --> 00:04:37.160 align:middle line:84%
117 plus or minus 14,
16 plus or minus 1, 1

00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:39.560 align:middle line:84%
because everything's been
ratioed to phosphorus,

00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:48.600 align:middle line:84%
so that's invariant, and
then minus 170, probably

00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:50.460 align:middle line:90%
close to plus or minus 30.

00:04:50.460 --> 00:04:52.450 align:middle line:84%
There are some
wide-ranging values

00:04:52.450 --> 00:04:56.690 align:middle line:90%
of oxygen in the literature.

00:04:56.690 --> 00:04:59.570 align:middle line:84%
And there's still
some open debate.

00:04:59.570 --> 00:05:03.290 align:middle line:84%
In part, there's such
variation because

00:05:03.290 --> 00:05:16.210 align:middle line:84%
the elemental stoichiometries
are not constant in nature.

00:05:16.210 --> 00:05:19.090 align:middle line:84%
And so this is an
approximation or a fiction

00:05:19.090 --> 00:05:22.250 align:middle line:84%
that we use for convenience,
but there's good reason

00:05:22.250 --> 00:05:24.710 align:middle line:84%
to think that
they're not constant,

00:05:24.710 --> 00:05:29.930 align:middle line:84%
both because of
changes in production--

00:05:29.930 --> 00:05:34.090 align:middle line:84%
so the actual organic
matter that's being produced

00:05:34.090 --> 00:05:35.330 align:middle line:90%
will differ.

00:05:35.330 --> 00:05:40.890 align:middle line:84%
So for example, late
in a bloom, when

00:05:40.890 --> 00:05:47.050 align:middle line:84%
you have nutrient
limitation, you'll

00:05:47.050 --> 00:05:51.280 align:middle line:84%
tend to get high
carbon-to-nitrogen ratios.

00:05:51.280 --> 00:05:55.060 align:middle line:90%


00:05:55.060 --> 00:05:58.940 align:middle line:84%
Basically, the organisms
are under nutrient stress

00:05:58.940 --> 00:06:03.300 align:middle line:84%
and there's not a lot
of available nitrogen,

00:06:03.300 --> 00:06:07.540 align:middle line:84%
so they'll still attempt to
grow and conserve as much

00:06:07.540 --> 00:06:10.940 align:middle line:84%
of the nitrogen they have, and
what results is a high carbon

00:06:10.940 --> 00:06:13.340 align:middle line:90%
and nitrogen in the biomass.

00:06:13.340 --> 00:06:16.060 align:middle line:84%
Similarly, when we start to
talk about nitrogen-fixing

00:06:16.060 --> 00:06:17.080 align:middle line:90%
organisms--

00:06:17.080 --> 00:06:20.100 align:middle line:90%


00:06:20.100 --> 00:06:23.260 align:middle line:84%
and Karen will be coming back--
[? Karen ?] [? Calciadi ?] will

00:06:23.260 --> 00:06:27.860 align:middle line:84%
be coming back and giving a
fairly detailed set of lectures

00:06:27.860 --> 00:06:31.820 align:middle line:84%
later-- or a fairly detailed
lecture on the nitrogen cycle,

00:06:31.820 --> 00:06:34.580 align:middle line:84%
but when you have
nitrogen-fixing organisms,

00:06:34.580 --> 00:06:38.860 align:middle line:84%
they tend to be
phosphorus-limited,

00:06:38.860 --> 00:06:44.220 align:middle line:84%
and so they can generate
some very high N-to-P ratios

00:06:44.220 --> 00:06:48.770 align:middle line:90%
and carbon-to-phosphorus ratios.

00:06:48.770 --> 00:06:52.230 align:middle line:90%


00:06:52.230 --> 00:07:01.310 align:middle line:84%
Also, there can be
differentiable remineralization.

00:07:01.310 --> 00:07:04.710 align:middle line:84%
There can be differentiable
remineralization.

00:07:04.710 --> 00:07:09.750 align:middle line:84%
And this hasn't been completely
resolved in a general case,

00:07:09.750 --> 00:07:14.110 align:middle line:90%
but typically we think of--

00:07:14.110 --> 00:07:21.630 align:middle line:84%
if you were to look at the
length scale of sinking

00:07:21.630 --> 00:07:23.830 align:middle line:90%
organic matter--

00:07:23.830 --> 00:07:28.030 align:middle line:84%
So here's the base of
the euphotic zone, say,

00:07:28.030 --> 00:07:34.550 align:middle line:84%
and you had some flux
as a function of depth,

00:07:34.550 --> 00:07:39.942 align:middle line:90%
the length scale would be--

00:07:39.942 --> 00:07:42.670 align:middle line:84%
flux would-- you
could approximate flux

00:07:42.670 --> 00:07:52.620 align:middle line:84%
is equal to some flux near the
surface e to the minus z over.

00:07:52.620 --> 00:07:56.200 align:middle line:90%


00:07:56.200 --> 00:08:00.740 align:middle line:84%
z remin where z remin
would be some length scale.

00:08:00.740 --> 00:08:05.600 align:middle line:84%
So you could approximate
the loss of organic matter

00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:10.040 align:middle line:84%
as an exponential, at least
in the upper water column.

00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:18.680 align:middle line:84%
And the z remin tends to be
shallowest for phosphorus.

00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:21.120 align:middle line:84%
So organic compounds that
are rich in phosphorus

00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:27.880 align:middle line:84%
tend to get remineralized early,
earlier than those with nitrogen

00:08:27.880 --> 00:08:30.800 align:middle line:84%
and earlier than
those with carbon.

00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:35.159 align:middle line:84%
Now it's a rule of thumb,
but different systems

00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:37.880 align:middle line:84%
will respond
somewhat differently,

00:08:37.880 --> 00:08:41.559 align:middle line:84%
but there is the idea that
the Redfield ratio assumes

00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:45.610 align:middle line:84%
that all the organic matter is
the same, it's one bulk pool,

00:08:45.610 --> 00:08:48.370 align:middle line:84%
but in reality, some
of this organic matter

00:08:48.370 --> 00:08:53.370 align:middle line:84%
is either tastier to the
bacteria or is more labile

00:08:53.370 --> 00:08:55.570 align:middle line:84%
or is in a particulate
form that is more

00:08:55.570 --> 00:08:58.010 align:middle line:84%
likely to be
remineralized with depth,

00:08:58.010 --> 00:09:00.170 align:middle line:84%
and that will lead
to separation.

00:09:00.170 --> 00:09:03.970 align:middle line:84%
So you would see, as you
move down the water column,

00:09:03.970 --> 00:09:05.650 align:middle line:84%
the remineralization
signal would

00:09:05.650 --> 00:09:08.050 align:middle line:84%
change because you're
actually remineralizing

00:09:08.050 --> 00:09:09.150 align:middle line:90%
different material.

00:09:09.150 --> 00:09:13.570 align:middle line:90%


00:09:13.570 --> 00:09:15.710 align:middle line:90%
Now-- sure.

00:09:15.710 --> 00:09:18.010 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: So is this
exponential graph

00:09:18.010 --> 00:09:21.670 align:middle line:84%
the amount of organic matter or
the degree of remineralization?

00:09:21.670 --> 00:09:24.970 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: This is just
flux for some component.

00:09:24.970 --> 00:09:27.090 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: Flux of organic
matter into the water--

00:09:27.090 --> 00:09:28.130 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Yeah.

00:09:28.130 --> 00:09:31.410 align:middle line:84%
And the derivative of that
would be the remineralization.

00:09:31.410 --> 00:09:33.610 align:middle line:84%
So of course, the
derivative of an exponential

00:09:33.610 --> 00:09:38.650 align:middle line:84%
is an exponential, so if I were
to plot the remineralization,

00:09:38.650 --> 00:09:40.590 align:middle line:90%
it would look the same.

00:09:40.590 --> 00:09:41.590 align:middle line:90%
It would scale the same.

00:09:41.590 --> 00:09:43.298 align:middle line:84%
Of course, it would
have different units.

00:09:43.298 --> 00:09:45.900 align:middle line:90%


00:09:45.900 --> 00:09:47.200 align:middle line:90%
Questions on that?

00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:49.860 align:middle line:90%


00:09:49.860 --> 00:09:51.360 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:54.489 align:middle line:90%


00:09:54.489 --> 00:09:57.720 align:middle line:84%
Usually the way-- I'm
going to switch pages.

00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:07.220 align:middle line:90%


00:10:07.220 --> 00:10:13.740 align:middle line:84%
One of the ways that the
Redfield ratios were originally

00:10:13.740 --> 00:10:19.780 align:middle line:90%
defined was to follow--

00:10:19.780 --> 00:10:23.140 align:middle line:90%
so here's our ocean surface.

00:10:23.140 --> 00:10:28.300 align:middle line:84%
If you were to plot
an isopycnal surface--

00:10:28.300 --> 00:10:37.020 align:middle line:84%
so a density surface,
one of the early ideas

00:10:37.020 --> 00:10:40.220 align:middle line:90%
in chemical oceanography--

00:10:40.220 --> 00:10:42.350 align:middle line:84%
one of the early
ideas in chemical

00:10:42.350 --> 00:10:46.790 align:middle line:84%
oceanography was that if you
knew where a water mass formed

00:10:46.790 --> 00:10:48.750 align:middle line:90%
with some set of properties--

00:10:48.750 --> 00:10:53.630 align:middle line:84%
so this would be the
surface properties

00:10:53.630 --> 00:10:59.350 align:middle line:84%
of any particular
chemical species--

00:10:59.350 --> 00:11:05.510 align:middle line:84%
so you could, say, define
that as this would be x0.

00:11:05.510 --> 00:11:16.310 align:middle line:84%
That if you were to trace along
the flow path and look at x,

00:11:16.310 --> 00:11:19.750 align:middle line:84%
it would be defined
by some initial state

00:11:19.750 --> 00:11:33.070 align:middle line:84%
x0 plus the biogeochemical
sources and sinks.

00:11:33.070 --> 00:11:35.230 align:middle line:90%
So in this case, this would be--

00:11:35.230 --> 00:11:38.390 align:middle line:84%
for example, if it was
carbon, the remineralization

00:11:38.390 --> 00:11:43.740 align:middle line:84%
of organic matter would
add carbon with time,

00:11:43.740 --> 00:11:50.240 align:middle line:84%
and so you would expect, if
you were to plot, say, distance

00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:59.040 align:middle line:84%
from the outcrop,
you would expect x0

00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:03.720 align:middle line:84%
to increase with distance
from the outcrop because

00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:06.240 align:middle line:84%
of remineralization of
organic matter, respiration

00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.440 align:middle line:90%
of organic matter.

00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:15.440 align:middle line:84%
One of the ways we will discuss
that is to use what's called

00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:25.200 align:middle line:84%
preformed nutrients
or preformed carbon.

00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:27.960 align:middle line:84%
And preformed is
just a term that's

00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:30.320 align:middle line:84%
propped up in the
literature, and it basically

00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.600 align:middle line:84%
just means the initial
conditions at the surface.

00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:36.490 align:middle line:84%
So in this case, x0
would be your are

00:12:36.490 --> 00:12:40.090 align:middle line:90%
preformed nutrients or carbon.

00:12:40.090 --> 00:12:43.490 align:middle line:84%
And so what you might
see, for example,

00:12:43.490 --> 00:12:46.670 align:middle line:84%
is you might see a derivation
where someone says,

00:12:46.670 --> 00:12:52.970 align:middle line:84%
OK, I have an observed
DIC concentration

00:12:52.970 --> 00:12:56.170 align:middle line:84%
and I'm going to partition that
and say, well, some of that

00:12:56.170 --> 00:13:02.730 align:middle line:84%
was due to my preformed
DIC at the surface,

00:13:02.730 --> 00:13:06.470 align:middle line:84%
and then there's
been an addition

00:13:06.470 --> 00:13:15.770 align:middle line:84%
due to organic matter,
respiration, and then

00:13:15.770 --> 00:13:23.570 align:middle line:84%
an addition due to calcium
carbonate remineralization.

00:13:23.570 --> 00:13:25.510 align:middle line:84%
And I could do the same
thing for nutrients.

00:13:25.510 --> 00:13:28.250 align:middle line:84%
I could write out
the observed nitrate

00:13:28.250 --> 00:13:33.530 align:middle line:84%
would be equal to the preformed
nitrate plus the organic matter

00:13:33.530 --> 00:13:37.120 align:middle line:84%
nitrate similarly for
alkalinity, but in that case,

00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.360 align:middle line:84%
it would just be due to
the calcium carbonate,

00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:42.780 align:middle line:84%
and of course, it would be
twice the calcium carbonate

00:13:42.780 --> 00:13:45.380 align:middle line:84%
remineralization because
alkalinity, the carbonate

00:13:45.380 --> 00:13:48.740 align:middle line:90%
comes in and adds two.

00:13:48.740 --> 00:13:57.420 align:middle line:84%
For oxygen, typically what is
done is a little different.

00:13:57.420 --> 00:14:02.100 align:middle line:84%
You don't always hear about
preformed oxygen. Instead--

00:14:02.100 --> 00:14:03.580 align:middle line:90%
hey.

00:14:03.580 --> 00:14:11.820 align:middle line:84%
For oxygen, often we use what's
called an apparent oxygen

00:14:11.820 --> 00:14:14.340 align:middle line:90%
utilization rate-- utilization.

00:14:14.340 --> 00:14:17.340 align:middle line:90%
Utilization.

00:14:17.340 --> 00:14:30.300 align:middle line:84%
And so AOU is just
defined as what

00:14:30.300 --> 00:14:34.390 align:middle line:84%
you would expect for
equilibrium saturation

00:14:34.390 --> 00:14:38.070 align:middle line:84%
at your potential
temperature and salinity

00:14:38.070 --> 00:14:42.850 align:middle line:90%
minus your observed value.

00:14:42.850 --> 00:14:46.070 align:middle line:90%


00:14:46.070 --> 00:14:56.430 align:middle line:84%
And AOU is basically a
measure of the delta oxygen

00:14:56.430 --> 00:15:02.390 align:middle line:84%
due to organic
matter respiration

00:15:02.390 --> 00:15:04.430 align:middle line:84%
because that's what
you-- as an expectation

00:15:04.430 --> 00:15:06.750 align:middle line:84%
you would expect the
preform oxygen that

00:15:06.750 --> 00:15:11.310 align:middle line:84%
leaves the surface
would be saturated,

00:15:11.310 --> 00:15:14.510 align:middle line:84%
and then minus some
organic matter respiration

00:15:14.510 --> 00:15:16.910 align:middle line:84%
term because of--
the negative sign

00:15:16.910 --> 00:15:19.150 align:middle line:84%
is because you're
using up oxygen.

00:15:19.150 --> 00:15:21.190 align:middle line:84%
We just typically
switch it around so

00:15:21.190 --> 00:15:23.890 align:middle line:84%
that we actually are talking
about positive values

00:15:23.890 --> 00:15:25.430 align:middle line:90%
in the case of AOU.

00:15:25.430 --> 00:15:30.030 align:middle line:84%
So AOU is-- almost everywhere
AOU will be positive,

00:15:30.030 --> 00:15:33.000 align:middle line:84%
but that means that there's
been oxygen loss just because

00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.960 align:middle line:84%
of the sign convention
of the definition.

00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.520 align:middle line:84%
Does that make
sense to everybody?

00:15:38.520 --> 00:15:41.382 align:middle line:84%
This is one of those
things you have to just--

00:15:41.382 --> 00:15:42.840 align:middle line:84%
you have to memorize
because you're

00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:47.320 align:middle line:84%
going to see it all the time,
is people will talk about AOU.

00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:56.600 align:middle line:84%
This assumes equilibrium
of surface waters.

00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:58.520 align:middle line:84%
The surface waters
that are getting

00:15:58.520 --> 00:16:00.500 align:middle line:90%
advected down this isopycnal.

00:16:00.500 --> 00:16:04.840 align:middle line:90%


00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:10.480 align:middle line:84%
So let's look at a
couple of figures.

00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:13.000 align:middle line:84%
And I'm just going to show you
some of the color plates out

00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:16.240 align:middle line:90%
of Sarmiento and Gruber.

00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:19.880 align:middle line:84%
And they're nice because
they've kind of lumped together

00:16:19.880 --> 00:16:22.320 align:middle line:90%
a whole bunch of sections.

00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:28.120 align:middle line:84%
And Nicky has this odd
convention where he plots--

00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:35.210 align:middle line:84%
he starts in the North Atlantic
and ends in the North Pacific,

00:16:35.210 --> 00:16:37.450 align:middle line:84%
and he puts it on one
section where it goes

00:16:37.450 --> 00:16:39.570 align:middle line:90%
through the Southern Ocean.

00:16:39.570 --> 00:16:41.930 align:middle line:84%
So it basically goes--
it'll be a section that

00:16:41.930 --> 00:16:44.910 align:middle line:84%
goes down the North Atlantic,
through the Southern Ocean,

00:16:44.910 --> 00:16:46.690 align:middle line:90%
and then up the North Pacific.

00:16:46.690 --> 00:16:50.070 align:middle line:84%
So it's along the pathway
of the global conveyor belt,

00:16:50.070 --> 00:17:01.330 align:middle line:84%
so you would expect-- so this
would be the global thermohaline

00:17:01.330 --> 00:17:03.410 align:middle line:84%
circulation where
you have inputs

00:17:03.410 --> 00:17:08.369 align:middle line:84%
of new deep water in the North
Atlantic and the Southern Ocean,

00:17:08.369 --> 00:17:12.690 align:middle line:84%
and then you have generalized
upwelling in the North Pacific.

00:17:12.690 --> 00:17:15.710 align:middle line:84%
Of course, as we talked
about early in the semester,

00:17:15.710 --> 00:17:20.347 align:middle line:84%
it's much more complicated
than that in any detail.

00:17:20.347 --> 00:17:22.430 align:middle line:84%
So if you want, I'll just
show you a few of these,

00:17:22.430 --> 00:17:27.170 align:middle line:84%
and then you can always go back
and stare at these ad nauseam

00:17:27.170 --> 00:17:29.020 align:middle line:90%
if you either--

00:17:29.020 --> 00:17:31.540 align:middle line:90%
while these are on reserve.

00:17:31.540 --> 00:17:40.820 align:middle line:84%
So let's-- so some of this
should be very familiar

00:17:40.820 --> 00:17:44.060 align:middle line:84%
because we've talked about the
nutrient distributions, but--

00:17:44.060 --> 00:17:47.140 align:middle line:84%
So for example, this
is nitrate where

00:17:47.140 --> 00:17:50.420 align:middle line:84%
you see low values entering
in the northern North

00:17:50.420 --> 00:17:59.940 align:middle line:84%
Atlantic and low values of
nitrate coming in in the North

00:17:59.940 --> 00:18:03.660 align:middle line:84%
Atlantic deep water, nitrate
continuing to build up

00:18:03.660 --> 00:18:08.180 align:middle line:84%
as you move into
the North Pacific,

00:18:08.180 --> 00:18:10.700 align:middle line:84%
and then higher values at
mid-depth because that's

00:18:10.700 --> 00:18:13.600 align:middle line:84%
where most of the
remineralization is occurring.

00:18:13.600 --> 00:18:16.220 align:middle line:90%


00:18:16.220 --> 00:18:23.200 align:middle line:84%
Now, one of the tricks of
this preformed nutrients--

00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:23.700 align:middle line:90%
oops.

00:18:23.700 --> 00:18:32.430 align:middle line:90%


00:18:32.430 --> 00:18:37.190 align:middle line:84%
The original model
we showed up here

00:18:37.190 --> 00:18:40.950 align:middle line:84%
had only a single spot where
deep water-- or water was

00:18:40.950 --> 00:18:44.830 align:middle line:84%
forming, and then it was
advecting down in isopycnal.

00:18:44.830 --> 00:18:48.030 align:middle line:84%
The reality is, in large
parts of the ocean,

00:18:48.030 --> 00:18:51.550 align:middle line:84%
you'll have sources that
come from multiple places.

00:18:51.550 --> 00:18:53.510 align:middle line:90%
So you might have--

00:18:53.510 --> 00:18:59.390 align:middle line:84%
along the same isopycnal,
you'll have a northern source

00:18:59.390 --> 00:19:00.890 align:middle line:90%
and a southern source.

00:19:00.890 --> 00:19:03.750 align:middle line:90%


00:19:03.750 --> 00:19:05.710 align:middle line:90%
Source.

00:19:05.710 --> 00:19:15.150 align:middle line:84%
And those might have
different preformed nutrient

00:19:15.150 --> 00:19:16.410 align:middle line:90%
concentrations.

00:19:16.410 --> 00:19:19.550 align:middle line:90%


00:19:19.550 --> 00:19:27.120 align:middle line:84%
And so what's often done
is people will use salinity

00:19:27.120 --> 00:19:32.580 align:middle line:90%
to correct for source water.

00:19:32.580 --> 00:19:48.600 align:middle line:90%


00:19:48.600 --> 00:19:54.520 align:middle line:84%
And it's pretty straightforward
in the case of a single--

00:19:54.520 --> 00:19:58.720 align:middle line:84%
if you have either a single
endmember or two endmembers.

00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:01.520 align:middle line:84%
It looks, in some
ways, like what

00:20:01.520 --> 00:20:05.200 align:middle line:90%
we were looking at for rivers.

00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:14.000 align:middle line:84%
So let's say we have
a two-endmember case.

00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:17.880 align:middle line:84%
So you have one surface water,
you have another surface water,

00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:24.750 align:middle line:84%
and you have water that is a
mixture of these two endmembers.

00:20:24.750 --> 00:20:32.050 align:middle line:90%


00:20:32.050 --> 00:20:33.270 align:middle line:90%
I have to switch pages.

00:20:33.270 --> 00:20:34.630 align:middle line:90%
You guys, everybody ready?

00:20:34.630 --> 00:20:52.690 align:middle line:90%


00:20:52.690 --> 00:20:56.410 align:middle line:84%
So again, the
two-endmember case where

00:20:56.410 --> 00:21:00.050 align:middle line:84%
you've got water, that's a
mixture of two endmembers.

00:21:00.050 --> 00:21:06.690 align:middle line:84%
Well, if I were to plot
against a conservative tracer--

00:21:06.690 --> 00:21:09.930 align:middle line:84%
in this case,
we'll use salinity,

00:21:09.930 --> 00:21:14.190 align:middle line:84%
so we're going to treat salinity
as a conservative tracer.

00:21:14.190 --> 00:21:17.010 align:middle line:90%


00:21:17.010 --> 00:21:19.290 align:middle line:84%
Along the isopycnal surface,
which is a pretty good

00:21:19.290 --> 00:21:23.540 align:middle line:84%
assumption as you're far
enough away from the surface

00:21:23.540 --> 00:21:25.780 align:middle line:84%
and there's not a lot
of diapycnal mixing

00:21:25.780 --> 00:21:27.880 align:middle line:84%
and you're not in a
region of salt fingering.

00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:30.500 align:middle line:90%


00:21:30.500 --> 00:21:36.740 align:middle line:84%
If I plotted whatever
tracer I wanted, say C0--

00:21:36.740 --> 00:21:41.900 align:middle line:84%
or C, in this case, I'd
have these two endmembers.

00:21:41.900 --> 00:21:43.960 align:middle line:84%
So these are my
surface endmembers.

00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:49.300 align:middle line:90%


00:21:49.300 --> 00:21:50.780 align:middle line:90%
And so what's going to happen--

00:21:50.780 --> 00:21:53.180 align:middle line:84%
let's say there's no
biogeochemistry, there's just

00:21:53.180 --> 00:21:55.920 align:middle line:84%
mixing, what's that
plot going to look like?

00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:59.098 align:middle line:90%


00:21:59.098 --> 00:22:00.140 align:middle line:90%
STUDENT: A straight line?

00:22:00.140 --> 00:22:02.540 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: It'll be
a straight line right.

00:22:02.540 --> 00:22:09.060 align:middle line:84%
So this would be
no biogeochemistry.

00:22:09.060 --> 00:22:12.660 align:middle line:84%
It would just be conservative,
you'd have conservative mixing.

00:22:12.660 --> 00:22:16.060 align:middle line:84%
So what you would-- just like in
the river in the estuarine case,

00:22:16.060 --> 00:22:23.670 align:middle line:84%
what you'd be looking for
are deviations from linearity

00:22:23.670 --> 00:22:25.210 align:middle line:90%
from a salinity curve.

00:22:25.210 --> 00:22:28.350 align:middle line:90%


00:22:28.350 --> 00:22:33.350 align:middle line:84%
So it's very analogous to
what's done in estuaries.

00:22:33.350 --> 00:22:38.550 align:middle line:84%
And this-- at any
particular point,

00:22:38.550 --> 00:22:48.390 align:middle line:84%
this would be the delta C net,
would be-- the net contribution

00:22:48.390 --> 00:22:52.110 align:middle line:84%
of biogeochemistry
would be the deviation

00:22:52.110 --> 00:22:54.630 align:middle line:90%
from that straight line.

00:22:54.630 --> 00:22:57.002 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: What is
the y-axis in here?

00:22:57.002 --> 00:22:58.710 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: It would
be any tracer, just

00:22:58.710 --> 00:23:02.010 align:middle line:90%
C. Any arbitrary tracer.

00:23:02.010 --> 00:23:04.950 align:middle line:84%
It could be oxygen, it
could be nitrate, silicate.

00:23:04.950 --> 00:23:10.270 align:middle line:90%


00:23:10.270 --> 00:23:15.430 align:middle line:84%
And so, in fact, one of the ways
that the people go out and make

00:23:15.430 --> 00:23:22.240 align:middle line:84%
Redfield ratio
measurements, or estimates,

00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:26.960 align:middle line:84%
is they go out and they map
tracer distributions along

00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:32.120 align:middle line:84%
isopycnal surfaces and then
correct for the mixing from

00:23:32.120 --> 00:23:35.400 align:middle line:84%
the different endmembers, these
different pre-formed endmembers,

00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:38.200 align:middle line:90%
and then compare--

00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:47.240 align:middle line:84%
so they would compare
the delta phosphorus net

00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:55.640 align:middle line:84%
to delta nitrogen net
to delta carbon net

00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:57.660 align:middle line:90%
along a series of isopycnals.

00:23:57.660 --> 00:24:01.320 align:middle line:90%


00:24:01.320 --> 00:24:07.200 align:middle line:84%
And you have to find a place
where the biogeochemical signal

00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:12.200 align:middle line:84%
is large relative to all the
advection and mixing signals

00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:16.230 align:middle line:84%
because if there's not a large
contribution of organic matter

00:24:16.230 --> 00:24:19.570 align:middle line:84%
or you're not looking at a big
enough distance, what you get

00:24:19.570 --> 00:24:22.050 align:middle line:84%
is most of these things
end up being linear,

00:24:22.050 --> 00:24:25.130 align:middle line:84%
and it's just the
advection and the mixing

00:24:25.130 --> 00:24:31.050 align:middle line:84%
between two different endmembers
rather than the biogeochemistry.

00:24:31.050 --> 00:24:34.050 align:middle line:84%
So you can't just look
at-- you can't just plot--

00:24:34.050 --> 00:24:43.650 align:middle line:84%
don't simply plot, say,
phosphate concentration over DIC

00:24:43.650 --> 00:24:48.450 align:middle line:84%
and expect to get a
Redfield ratio because a lot

00:24:48.450 --> 00:24:53.050 align:middle line:84%
of what's there actually
has to do with equilibrium,

00:24:53.050 --> 00:24:54.970 align:middle line:90%
the preformed equilibrium--

00:24:54.970 --> 00:24:56.930 align:middle line:84%
or the equilibrium
concentrations

00:24:56.930 --> 00:24:59.290 align:middle line:84%
of the preformed
surface concentrations

00:24:59.290 --> 00:25:01.950 align:middle line:84%
that the water gets advected
into the interior with.

00:25:01.950 --> 00:25:19.540 align:middle line:90%


00:25:19.540 --> 00:25:29.980 align:middle line:84%
There's one complication, which
is the fact that a lot of times,

00:25:29.980 --> 00:25:34.340 align:middle line:84%
you don't have just a
simple two-endmember case.

00:25:34.340 --> 00:25:39.300 align:middle line:84%
You might have three
or more endmembers.

00:25:39.300 --> 00:25:46.260 align:middle line:84%
And it gets rather messy, and
you don't always have a good--

00:25:46.260 --> 00:25:51.900 align:middle line:84%
you don't always have a good
set of conservative tracers

00:25:51.900 --> 00:25:55.700 align:middle line:84%
because once you get away from--
remember, along an isopycnal,

00:25:55.700 --> 00:25:57.840 align:middle line:84%
temperature and
salinity are correlated,

00:25:57.840 --> 00:26:00.840 align:middle line:84%
so you can only use
one or the other,

00:26:00.840 --> 00:26:04.100 align:middle line:84%
you can't use both, because
as you change salinity

00:26:04.100 --> 00:26:05.660 align:middle line:84%
along an isopycnal,
you have to have

00:26:05.660 --> 00:26:08.220 align:middle line:84%
a corresponding
change in temperature

00:26:08.220 --> 00:26:10.620 align:middle line:84%
for you to stay
along the isopycnal.

00:26:10.620 --> 00:26:12.750 align:middle line:84%
So there are a
variety of techniques

00:26:12.750 --> 00:26:18.830 align:middle line:84%
that people have tried to use
for these multiple endmember

00:26:18.830 --> 00:26:27.350 align:middle line:84%
cases, and there's basically a
series of mixing models where

00:26:27.350 --> 00:26:30.430 align:middle line:84%
people try to set up
mathematical techniques where

00:26:30.430 --> 00:26:34.070 align:middle line:84%
they can pull out and
resolve from the data

00:26:34.070 --> 00:26:40.790 align:middle line:84%
the surface endmembers that
go into the mixing model.

00:26:40.790 --> 00:26:44.510 align:middle line:84%
The problem is,
sometimes it's difficult.

00:26:44.510 --> 00:26:49.330 align:middle line:84%
We don't always know
the surface endmembers.

00:26:49.330 --> 00:26:53.190 align:middle line:90%


00:26:53.190 --> 00:26:59.030 align:middle line:84%
And it's sometimes difficult
to figure out the fractions

00:26:59.030 --> 00:27:02.350 align:middle line:90%
of the different sources.

00:27:02.350 --> 00:27:03.950 align:middle line:84%
And so it is a
complication, and you

00:27:03.950 --> 00:27:05.830 align:middle line:84%
should be aware of
that a lot of this work

00:27:05.830 --> 00:27:09.250 align:middle line:84%
depends upon how well you
can do this separation.

00:27:09.250 --> 00:27:11.840 align:middle line:90%


00:27:11.840 --> 00:27:14.500 align:middle line:84%
Fraction of sources
or mixing ratios.

00:27:14.500 --> 00:27:18.600 align:middle line:90%


00:27:18.600 --> 00:27:22.800 align:middle line:84%
I do just want to say one thing
about this surface endmembers.

00:27:22.800 --> 00:27:24.640 align:middle line:84%
Part of the reason
why we don't know

00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:29.000 align:middle line:84%
this is the surface
endmembers should really

00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.520 align:middle line:90%
be the winter water--

00:27:32.520 --> 00:27:34.960 align:middle line:90%
waters.

00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:36.940 align:middle line:90%
The water at the out--

00:27:36.940 --> 00:27:40.440 align:middle line:84%
so what you want
is the water that

00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:48.160 align:middle line:84%
forms at the actual outcrop of
an isopycnal surface in winter.

00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:53.640 align:middle line:84%
And so if I were to
plot my density surface,

00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:55.920 align:middle line:84%
what you'll see
in the thermocline

00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:03.160 align:middle line:84%
is, during the summer, this
isopycnal-- so this is,

00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.520 align:middle line:84%
say, a particular isopycnal
with a certain water mass.

00:28:07.520 --> 00:28:11.570 align:middle line:84%
And during the winter, it
might outcrop like that.

00:28:11.570 --> 00:28:15.370 align:middle line:90%
And so this would be winter.

00:28:15.370 --> 00:28:20.170 align:middle line:84%
But during the summer, you'll
get much warmer water there.

00:28:20.170 --> 00:28:23.650 align:middle line:90%
So let's say this is cold.

00:28:23.650 --> 00:28:27.010 align:middle line:84%
And so during the
summer, this will

00:28:27.010 --> 00:28:31.690 align:middle line:90%
outcrop much further poleward.

00:28:31.690 --> 00:28:33.270 align:middle line:90%
So this would be poleward.

00:28:33.270 --> 00:28:37.450 align:middle line:90%


00:28:37.450 --> 00:28:46.010 align:middle line:84%
But all of this water-- this is
all in the seasonal thermocline,

00:28:46.010 --> 00:28:48.930 align:middle line:84%
and that's not the water
we want to look at.

00:28:48.930 --> 00:28:51.610 align:middle line:84%
And so unfortunately, a lot
of our geochemical surveys

00:28:51.610 --> 00:28:55.490 align:middle line:84%
are done during the summer,
particularly in high latitudes,

00:28:55.490 --> 00:28:57.610 align:middle line:90%
because of weather constraints.

00:28:57.610 --> 00:28:59.730 align:middle line:84%
And sometimes you
have to actually try

00:28:59.730 --> 00:29:04.170 align:middle line:84%
to interpolate back to what the
conditions were in winter so

00:29:04.170 --> 00:29:07.180 align:middle line:84%
that you know what the winter
source waters are because it's

00:29:07.180 --> 00:29:12.180 align:middle line:84%
actually the winter water that
gets advected down for the most

00:29:12.180 --> 00:29:16.460 align:middle line:84%
part onto the isopycnals, not
what's happening on the summer.

00:29:16.460 --> 00:29:19.140 align:middle line:84%
Does that make
sense to everybody?

00:29:19.140 --> 00:29:22.300 align:middle line:90%


00:29:22.300 --> 00:29:23.320 align:middle line:90%
Is that OK with you?

00:29:23.320 --> 00:29:24.600 align:middle line:90%
Everybody up at MIT?

00:29:24.600 --> 00:29:28.460 align:middle line:90%


00:29:28.460 --> 00:29:32.340 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: What's the
scale on that diagram?

00:29:32.340 --> 00:29:34.060 align:middle line:90%
Like latitude-wise.

00:29:34.060 --> 00:29:37.140 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: It could be 10
or 15 degrees of latitude.

00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:40.400 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: So you just-- like
you said, survey up there?

00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:41.780 align:middle line:90%
You can just go down there--

00:29:41.780 --> 00:29:42.280 align:middle line:90%
[COUGHING]

00:29:42.280 --> 00:29:43.460 align:middle line:90%
--deeper?

00:29:43.460 --> 00:29:48.340 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: Well, one approach
is to look along the isopycnals

00:29:48.340 --> 00:29:51.580 align:middle line:84%
and see where you think winter
water was formed the last time

00:29:51.580 --> 00:29:54.980 align:middle line:84%
winter water was formed, but
stuff has already-- there's

00:29:54.980 --> 00:29:57.940 align:middle line:84%
been biogeochemical changes
already to that water,

00:29:57.940 --> 00:30:03.140 align:middle line:84%
and so people have attempted
to build tools to correct back

00:30:03.140 --> 00:30:08.190 align:middle line:84%
to what they think winter
concentrations might be.

00:30:08.190 --> 00:30:10.070 align:middle line:84%
The best way, of
course, is to figure out

00:30:10.070 --> 00:30:13.430 align:middle line:84%
a way to make your measurements
remotely on some autonomous

00:30:13.430 --> 00:30:14.032 align:middle line:90%
platform.

00:30:14.032 --> 00:30:15.990 align:middle line:84%
Throw the thing out there
and let it bob around

00:30:15.990 --> 00:30:19.350 align:middle line:84%
in the winter making
measurements rather than being

00:30:19.350 --> 00:30:23.070 align:middle line:84%
out there at sea
during the winter.

00:30:23.070 --> 00:30:27.670 align:middle line:90%
But just a caveat to that.

00:30:27.670 --> 00:30:29.890 align:middle line:90%
So I showed you the--

00:30:29.890 --> 00:30:32.510 align:middle line:90%


00:30:32.510 --> 00:30:34.410 align:middle line:90%
remember, this was the nitrate.

00:30:34.410 --> 00:30:39.870 align:middle line:90%


00:30:39.870 --> 00:30:43.050 align:middle line:84%
So this was the nitrate
distributions, North Atlantic

00:30:43.050 --> 00:30:45.790 align:middle line:90%
deep water, North Pacific.

00:30:45.790 --> 00:30:47.910 align:middle line:84%
If we were to look
at an estimate, then,

00:30:47.910 --> 00:30:50.350 align:middle line:90%
of the preformed nitrate--

00:30:50.350 --> 00:30:53.090 align:middle line:84%
this is the nitrate
that's coming in,

00:30:53.090 --> 00:30:56.870 align:middle line:84%
what you see is that the
gradients are much smaller.

00:30:56.870 --> 00:31:03.400 align:middle line:84%
There's a fairly--
there are differences

00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:05.983 align:middle line:84%
between the preformed
nitrogen that's

00:31:05.983 --> 00:31:07.400 align:middle line:84%
being formed in
the northern North

00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.000 align:middle line:84%
Atlantic versus
the Southern Ocean,

00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.480 align:middle line:84%
but they are
considerably smaller.

00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:15.480 align:middle line:90%
For phosphate, that's not true.

00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.440 align:middle line:84%
If we look at the preformed
concentration of phosphate,

00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.840 align:middle line:84%
there's actually
quite large gradients

00:31:22.840 --> 00:31:25.880 align:middle line:84%
between what's formed in
the Northern Hemisphere

00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.080 align:middle line:84%
and what's formed in
the Southern Hemisphere.

00:31:28.080 --> 00:31:31.560 align:middle line:84%
And this difference between
the preformed phosphate

00:31:31.560 --> 00:31:34.000 align:middle line:84%
between the northern
and the southern waters

00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.380 align:middle line:84%
is actually used a lot to
help to partition that out.

00:31:37.380 --> 00:31:39.280 align:middle line:84%
There are various
techniques that have

00:31:39.280 --> 00:31:43.200 align:middle line:90%
been developed to try to tool.

00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:46.000 align:middle line:84%
But what you need to do
is, for example, if you're

00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:48.400 align:middle line:84%
interested in the
remineralization,

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.340 align:middle line:84%
you would take,
say, for nitrate,

00:31:51.340 --> 00:31:55.200 align:middle line:90%
you'd take the nitrate field--

00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.700 align:middle line:84%
let's do it for phosphate
because it's a bigger signal.

00:31:57.700 --> 00:32:02.770 align:middle line:84%
You take the phosphate
field, you then subtract off

00:32:02.770 --> 00:32:05.690 align:middle line:84%
the preformed
phosphate, and then you

00:32:05.690 --> 00:32:09.233 align:middle line:84%
get the remineralization
phosphate term,

00:32:09.233 --> 00:32:11.650 align:middle line:84%
which is what you're actually
interested in because that's

00:32:11.650 --> 00:32:12.990 align:middle line:90%
the biogeochemistry.

00:32:12.990 --> 00:32:20.890 align:middle line:90%


00:32:20.890 --> 00:32:22.990 align:middle line:90%
And the other thing--

00:32:22.990 --> 00:32:26.410 align:middle line:84%
I'll either put-- these
figures are probably

00:32:26.410 --> 00:32:30.590 align:middle line:84%
just a couple of sections on the
homework, the upcoming homework,

00:32:30.590 --> 00:32:33.130 align:middle line:84%
so you guys can get spend
a little more time looking

00:32:33.130 --> 00:32:36.210 align:middle line:84%
at them, but we had
talked about AOU.

00:32:36.210 --> 00:32:39.450 align:middle line:84%
Remember, by the way
the definition's set up,

00:32:39.450 --> 00:32:41.530 align:middle line:90%
AOU is always positive.

00:32:41.530 --> 00:32:43.690 align:middle line:84%
So for example, the North
Atlantic deep waters

00:32:43.690 --> 00:32:47.890 align:middle line:84%
will have low AOUs, and as you
move into the North Pacific,

00:32:47.890 --> 00:32:57.770 align:middle line:84%
you get higher and higher AOUs
because you're using up oxygen.

00:32:57.770 --> 00:33:03.580 align:middle line:84%
OK, so that's the large-scale
distribution of nutrients.

00:33:03.580 --> 00:33:07.640 align:middle line:84%
The next question is, can we get
some rate estimates out of that?

00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.580 align:middle line:90%


00:33:10.580 --> 00:33:12.460 align:middle line:84%
And there's a couple
of techniques that have

00:33:12.460 --> 00:33:15.580 align:middle line:90%
been developed to try to get--

00:33:15.580 --> 00:33:22.900 align:middle line:84%
oops-- to get geochemical rate
estimates that you could then

00:33:22.900 --> 00:33:26.780 align:middle line:84%
compare with some
of the other more

00:33:26.780 --> 00:33:31.540 align:middle line:84%
biological techniques or more
process oriented techniques.

00:33:31.540 --> 00:33:33.720 align:middle line:84%
Remember, we talked a
lot in the upper ocean

00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:36.740 align:middle line:84%
how one of the advantages
of geochemical techniques

00:33:36.740 --> 00:33:39.660 align:middle line:84%
is that you're not actually
manipulating the system,

00:33:39.660 --> 00:33:45.060 align:middle line:84%
you're not doing incubations,
you're not trying to grow bugs.

00:33:45.060 --> 00:33:50.460 align:middle line:84%
So the geochemical techniques
have that advantage, that they--

00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:52.640 align:middle line:84%
no direct manipulation
of the system.

00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:56.910 align:middle line:90%


00:33:56.910 --> 00:34:00.190 align:middle line:84%
They also have the
advantage and disadvantage

00:34:00.190 --> 00:34:09.170 align:middle line:84%
that they integrate over
large time and space scales.

00:34:09.170 --> 00:34:12.270 align:middle line:90%


00:34:12.270 --> 00:34:16.830 align:middle line:84%
So if I'm going to use the
geochemical gradients of nitrate

00:34:16.830 --> 00:34:18.630 align:middle line:90%
through the North Atlantic--

00:34:18.630 --> 00:34:22.190 align:middle line:84%
or through the Atlantic to try
to estimate remineralization

00:34:22.190 --> 00:34:25.909 align:middle line:84%
or respiration, I'm
inherently making

00:34:25.909 --> 00:34:27.949 align:middle line:84%
a basin-wide average
right, because I'm

00:34:27.949 --> 00:34:30.469 align:middle line:90%
using basin-wide gradients.

00:34:30.469 --> 00:34:34.469 align:middle line:84%
I can't distinguish between
what's going on here and a point

00:34:34.469 --> 00:34:36.790 align:middle line:84%
100 kilometers
away, but I might be

00:34:36.790 --> 00:34:39.909 align:middle line:84%
able to give you some average
value over the North Atlantic

00:34:39.909 --> 00:34:43.230 align:middle line:84%
over the ventilation
timescales of that water.

00:34:43.230 --> 00:34:47.590 align:middle line:84%
So it might be 1,000 kilometers
or multi-thousand kilometers

00:34:47.590 --> 00:34:49.909 align:middle line:90%
and decades.

00:34:49.909 --> 00:34:52.790 align:middle line:84%
But maybe that's
a better estimate

00:34:52.790 --> 00:34:55.880 align:middle line:84%
than somebody going out
1 February and making

00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:59.623 align:middle line:84%
one measurement at one on one
particular day because that

00:34:59.623 --> 00:35:02.040 align:middle line:84%
might have been-- there might
have been a storm or a bloom

00:35:02.040 --> 00:35:03.920 align:middle line:84%
event, or they
might just have had

00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.480 align:middle line:84%
some big piece of
marine snow that

00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.680 align:middle line:84%
got stuck in their
incubation bottle

00:35:10.680 --> 00:35:13.140 align:middle line:90%
and might alias their results.

00:35:13.140 --> 00:35:17.360 align:middle line:90%


00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:21.560 align:middle line:84%
This has been-- a
lot of the focus

00:35:21.560 --> 00:35:27.360 align:middle line:84%
has been on oxygen and AOU,
in part because of the larger

00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.520 align:middle line:84%
database and the longer
historical database

00:35:30.520 --> 00:35:33.040 align:middle line:90%
for oxygen and AOU.

00:35:33.040 --> 00:35:38.840 align:middle line:84%
So one of the terms
you'll see is the OUR,

00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:48.160 align:middle line:84%
which is the Oxygen
Utilization Rate, so it's now

00:35:48.160 --> 00:35:51.440 align:middle line:90%
being turned into a time rate.

00:35:51.440 --> 00:36:02.260 align:middle line:84%
And that's simply the rate
of change of AOU with time,

00:36:02.260 --> 00:36:13.020 align:middle line:84%
and that can be approximated
as delta AOU over delta age

00:36:13.020 --> 00:36:18.060 align:middle line:84%
where age is some age
derived from some tracer.

00:36:18.060 --> 00:36:20.060 align:middle line:84%
And usually the
assumption is that we

00:36:20.060 --> 00:36:23.220 align:middle line:84%
start at the surface
with zero AOU

00:36:23.220 --> 00:36:25.560 align:middle line:84%
and then we just
look at the age,

00:36:25.560 --> 00:36:31.440 align:middle line:84%
though, people have done more
localized estimates as well.

00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.335 align:middle line:90%


00:36:35.335 --> 00:36:37.420 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: Why [? would ?]
[? the ?] AOU to be zero

00:36:37.420 --> 00:36:38.553 align:middle line:90%
unchanged.

00:36:38.553 --> 00:36:39.220 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Ah.

00:36:39.220 --> 00:36:40.845 align:middle line:84%
Let's go back to the
definition of AOU.

00:36:40.845 --> 00:36:44.060 align:middle line:90%


00:36:44.060 --> 00:36:47.440 align:middle line:84%
So this was the definition
of AOU at the surface.

00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:52.190 align:middle line:84%
It was the thermodynamic gas
exchange-- or the gas exchange

00:36:52.190 --> 00:36:56.230 align:middle line:84%
equilibrium that you'd expect
at that temperature and salinity

00:36:56.230 --> 00:36:59.790 align:middle line:90%
minus the observed oxygen.

00:36:59.790 --> 00:37:02.830 align:middle line:84%
So to first order, you
expect surface waters

00:37:02.830 --> 00:37:07.190 align:middle line:84%
to be in equilibrium
with the atmosphere.

00:37:07.190 --> 00:37:09.790 align:middle line:84%
That's not always true,
but during the winter,

00:37:09.790 --> 00:37:11.630 align:middle line:84%
that's a reasonable
assumption unless you

00:37:11.630 --> 00:37:13.950 align:middle line:90%
have very deep mixing.

00:37:13.950 --> 00:37:16.072 align:middle line:84%
In some places, like
the Labrador Sea,

00:37:16.072 --> 00:37:18.030 align:middle line:84%
where you have a lot of
deep convective mixing,

00:37:18.030 --> 00:37:19.270 align:middle line:90%
you bring up--

00:37:19.270 --> 00:37:24.230 align:middle line:84%
you rapidly bring up deep
water that has a positive AOU,

00:37:24.230 --> 00:37:26.590 align:middle line:84%
the gas exchange
just can't keep up,

00:37:26.590 --> 00:37:30.190 align:middle line:84%
and so the convection collapses
and the water sinks back down

00:37:30.190 --> 00:37:32.430 align:middle line:90%
and still has an AOU signature.

00:37:32.430 --> 00:37:35.750 align:middle line:84%
But in places with
relatively shallow mixing,

00:37:35.750 --> 00:37:38.450 align:middle line:84%
the gas exchange will
equilibrate oxygen. Remember,

00:37:38.450 --> 00:37:41.910 align:middle line:84%
oxygen has a time scale of
about a month-- or a few weeks

00:37:41.910 --> 00:37:43.350 align:middle line:90%
to a month.

00:37:43.350 --> 00:37:46.550 align:middle line:84%
And so as long as you have
enough time for gas exchange

00:37:46.550 --> 00:37:50.600 align:middle line:90%
to occur, this should be true.

00:37:50.600 --> 00:37:53.680 align:middle line:84%
The same is not true
for DIC, and that's

00:37:53.680 --> 00:37:59.960 align:middle line:84%
why you don't see people
writing CO2 saturation minus--

00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:05.080 align:middle line:84%
DIC saturation minus DIC
observed as frequently

00:38:05.080 --> 00:38:08.060 align:middle line:84%
because the DIC doesn't
have enough time.

00:38:08.060 --> 00:38:10.520 align:middle line:84%
Remember, DIC has a much
longer gas exchange time

00:38:10.520 --> 00:38:16.280 align:middle line:84%
scale, so it doesn't have
enough time to equilibrate.

00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:22.500 align:middle line:84%
We'll come back to that I
guess the last two lectures.

00:38:22.500 --> 00:38:24.920 align:middle line:84%
We do anthropogenic CO2,
and we'll talk about some

00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.000 align:middle line:84%
of the techniques
that people use

00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:28.800 align:middle line:84%
to estimate anthropogenic
CO2, and we'll

00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.700 align:middle line:90%
get into CO2 disequilibrium.

00:38:31.700 --> 00:38:35.600 align:middle line:90%


00:38:35.600 --> 00:38:37.100 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:38:37.100 --> 00:38:42.280 align:middle line:84%
So, what we were talking about
was oxygen utilization rate,

00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:47.080 align:middle line:84%
where it's the AOU
divided by age.

00:38:47.080 --> 00:38:49.110 align:middle line:84%
So where do you get
the age model from?

00:38:49.110 --> 00:38:50.590 align:middle line:84%
Where do you get
the age estimates?

00:38:50.590 --> 00:38:56.610 align:middle line:90%


00:38:56.610 --> 00:39:01.330 align:middle line:84%
One of the first
papers on this was by--

00:39:01.330 --> 00:39:15.330 align:middle line:90%
estimates by Riley in 1951.

00:39:15.330 --> 00:39:21.090 align:middle line:84%
And he tried to combine
geostrophic velocities

00:39:21.090 --> 00:39:40.850 align:middle line:84%
with oxygen gradients
to try to get it at OUR.

00:39:40.850 --> 00:39:42.970 align:middle line:90%
So essentially, if you had a--

00:39:42.970 --> 00:39:46.340 align:middle line:84%
let's say you had flow
along an isopycnal,

00:39:46.340 --> 00:39:50.980 align:middle line:84%
and if you knew what the
velocity was, and you knew

00:39:50.980 --> 00:39:58.140 align:middle line:84%
that you had an oxygen
value at some point 1

00:39:58.140 --> 00:40:02.100 align:middle line:84%
and you had an oxygen
value at some point 2,

00:40:02.100 --> 00:40:07.220 align:middle line:84%
you could difference
these to get your AOU,

00:40:07.220 --> 00:40:09.680 align:middle line:84%
and then you can
estimate the time scale

00:40:09.680 --> 00:40:12.940 align:middle line:84%
if you know the velocity of how
long it takes to get from one

00:40:12.940 --> 00:40:14.360 align:middle line:90%
point to the next point.

00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:19.340 align:middle line:90%


00:40:19.340 --> 00:40:24.100 align:middle line:84%
Probably the next big
paper in this realm

00:40:24.100 --> 00:40:29.500 align:middle line:84%
was actually by Bill Jenkins,
who's down here at WHOI.

00:40:29.500 --> 00:40:32.460 align:middle line:84%
He had a whole series
of papers, but it

00:40:32.460 --> 00:40:41.220 align:middle line:84%
started with a paper in 1980
where he used the tritium/helium

00:40:41.220 --> 00:40:43.420 align:middle line:90%
age method.

00:40:43.420 --> 00:40:46.950 align:middle line:90%
And we went over this--

00:40:46.950 --> 00:40:50.530 align:middle line:84%
we went over this some when
we were doing ocean physics,

00:40:50.530 --> 00:40:52.990 align:middle line:90%
but I'll just review it briefly.

00:40:52.990 --> 00:40:57.470 align:middle line:84%
Remember that tritium
is an isotope of water.

00:40:57.470 --> 00:41:02.310 align:middle line:84%
Decays to helium-3,
which is a gas.

00:41:02.310 --> 00:41:04.950 align:middle line:90%
So this is part of H2O--

00:41:04.950 --> 00:41:08.290 align:middle line:90%
or actually, H3HO.

00:41:08.290 --> 00:41:11.350 align:middle line:90%


00:41:11.350 --> 00:41:17.530 align:middle line:84%
And it decays with a half-life
of about 12 and 1/2 years.

00:41:17.530 --> 00:41:24.350 align:middle line:90%


00:41:24.350 --> 00:41:29.870 align:middle line:84%
The assumption is that when
you take a parcel of water

00:41:29.870 --> 00:41:36.310 align:middle line:84%
from the ocean surface
and it sinks down,

00:41:36.310 --> 00:41:40.370 align:middle line:84%
the assumption is that
in this surface box,

00:41:40.370 --> 00:41:47.320 align:middle line:84%
there was no excess
helium-3 where that would

00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:49.580 align:middle line:90%
be excess above saturation.

00:41:49.580 --> 00:41:54.600 align:middle line:90%


00:41:54.600 --> 00:41:56.920 align:middle line:84%
And so usually when you
see-- almost always when

00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.560 align:middle line:84%
you see helium-3
measurements, they're

00:41:59.560 --> 00:42:06.080 align:middle line:84%
actually reporting the excess
above thermodynamic saturation

00:42:06.080 --> 00:42:08.960 align:middle line:90%
with the atmosphere.

00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.100 align:middle line:84%
And so if you were
to write out the--

00:42:11.100 --> 00:42:14.560 align:middle line:90%


00:42:14.560 --> 00:42:18.960 align:middle line:84%
assuming no mixing of that
parcel, if you were to write out

00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:23.360 align:middle line:84%
the time derivative
of tritium, it's

00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:34.280 align:middle line:84%
going to be equal to minus
lambda times tritium.

00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:40.120 align:middle line:84%
Similarly for helium-3, and
this is excess helium-3,

00:42:40.120 --> 00:42:47.710 align:middle line:84%
it's going to be equal to
plus lambda times the tritium.

00:42:47.710 --> 00:42:50.450 align:middle line:90%


00:42:50.450 --> 00:42:54.810 align:middle line:90%
And so usually the--

00:42:54.810 --> 00:43:01.650 align:middle line:84%
you can solve this since we
know that any excess helium was

00:43:01.650 --> 00:43:04.050 align:middle line:84%
originally-- is just
dead tritium, it's

00:43:04.050 --> 00:43:09.250 align:middle line:84%
tritium that decayed, we
can think of the tritium

00:43:09.250 --> 00:43:14.570 align:middle line:84%
concentration in
the box as equaling

00:43:14.570 --> 00:43:23.010 align:middle line:84%
the initial tritium when
it was at the surface times

00:43:23.010 --> 00:43:26.570 align:middle line:84%
some decay,
exponential decay rate.

00:43:26.570 --> 00:43:32.010 align:middle line:84%
And then that initial
tritium can actually

00:43:32.010 --> 00:43:38.860 align:middle line:84%
be set as equal to the tritium
that you have at present plus

00:43:38.860 --> 00:43:42.060 align:middle line:84%
all the excess helium-3,
assuming that you

00:43:42.060 --> 00:43:44.740 align:middle line:90%
haven't had any gas exchange.

00:43:44.740 --> 00:43:48.100 align:middle line:84%
So as long as this parcel
followed a path where

00:43:48.100 --> 00:43:50.660 align:middle line:84%
it was at the surface
and then sank down

00:43:50.660 --> 00:43:53.180 align:middle line:84%
and has been isolated
from the atmosphere,

00:43:53.180 --> 00:43:58.260 align:middle line:84%
this helium-3 will grow in and
basically gives you a clock

00:43:58.260 --> 00:44:03.900 align:middle line:84%
because you can then
solve this equation.

00:44:03.900 --> 00:44:08.660 align:middle line:84%
You measure you measure
this, that's the same thing.

00:44:08.660 --> 00:44:17.140 align:middle line:84%
You measure that, and then you
lambda, so you can solve for t.

00:44:17.140 --> 00:44:28.100 align:middle line:90%
And this is the H.

00:44:28.100 --> 00:44:36.355 align:middle line:84%
So if you do this-- and this was
originally done off of Bermuda

00:44:36.355 --> 00:44:38.470 align:middle line:84%
because it's a convenient
spot in the ocean

00:44:38.470 --> 00:44:41.030 align:middle line:84%
to go to because it has
an island and a biostation

00:44:41.030 --> 00:44:41.690 align:middle line:90%
and a ship.

00:44:41.690 --> 00:44:49.710 align:middle line:90%


00:44:49.710 --> 00:44:56.510 align:middle line:84%
Bill and colleagues looked, as
a function of depth, at the age.

00:44:56.510 --> 00:45:00.930 align:middle line:84%
So this would be the
tritium/helium-3 age.

00:45:00.930 --> 00:45:05.830 align:middle line:90%


00:45:05.830 --> 00:45:11.750 align:middle line:84%
And it tended to be close to
0 at the surface and somewhere

00:45:11.750 --> 00:45:16.430 align:middle line:90%
around 30 years at depth.

00:45:16.430 --> 00:45:19.530 align:middle line:84%
And this was-- the depth
was the thermocline,

00:45:19.530 --> 00:45:23.750 align:middle line:90%
so this would be 1,000 meters.

00:45:23.750 --> 00:45:26.930 align:middle line:84%
You could then plug this-- if
you had the AOU measurements--

00:45:26.930 --> 00:45:32.590 align:middle line:84%
so you have an AOU
profile, they could then

00:45:32.590 --> 00:45:36.440 align:middle line:84%
combine the age estimate
with the AOU profile

00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:45.800 align:middle line:84%
and come up with
a profile of OUR.

00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:50.560 align:middle line:84%
So a profile of the
oxygen utilization rate.

00:45:50.560 --> 00:45:54.320 align:middle line:84%
And what they found was
that at the peak, which

00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:57.760 align:middle line:84%
was pretty shallow, right
below the euphotic zone,

00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:08.200 align:middle line:84%
in the shallow aphotic zone,
AOU was 10 to 30 micromoles

00:46:08.200 --> 00:46:10.640 align:middle line:90%
per kilogram per year--

00:46:10.640 --> 00:46:12.920 align:middle line:90%
or per year.

00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:17.680 align:middle line:84%
And by the time you got down
to the base of the thermocline,

00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:21.720 align:middle line:84%
it was more like
1 to 3 micromoles

00:46:21.720 --> 00:46:23.580 align:middle line:90%
per kilogram per year.

00:46:23.580 --> 00:46:27.040 align:middle line:90%


00:46:27.040 --> 00:46:29.960 align:middle line:84%
And this was actually
occurring about the same time

00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.800 align:middle line:84%
that people were putting
out sediment traps,

00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:36.690 align:middle line:84%
and the sediment trap data
was showing that the particle

00:46:36.690 --> 00:46:39.950 align:middle line:84%
flux was dropping off fairly
dramatically in the upper ocean,

00:46:39.950 --> 00:46:42.730 align:middle line:84%
and then not so much
in the deep ocean.

00:46:42.730 --> 00:46:47.170 align:middle line:84%
And so to first order, these
appeared to be consistent,

00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:50.967 align:middle line:84%
that most of the
remineralization/respiration's

00:46:50.967 --> 00:46:53.050 align:middle line:84%
occurring in the upper
couple hundred meters right

00:46:53.050 --> 00:46:55.610 align:middle line:84%
below the base of
the euphotic zone,

00:46:55.610 --> 00:47:01.690 align:middle line:84%
and then tends to drop to much
lower rates in the deep water.

00:47:01.690 --> 00:47:05.090 align:middle line:90%
If you integrate that--

00:47:05.090 --> 00:47:10.770 align:middle line:84%
so if I do a vertical
integral of OUR with depth,

00:47:10.770 --> 00:47:13.970 align:middle line:90%
I get the water column demand.

00:47:13.970 --> 00:47:18.790 align:middle line:84%
And that tends to
be fairly large.

00:47:18.790 --> 00:47:20.270 align:middle line:84%
They were getting
values of, say,

00:47:20.270 --> 00:47:30.050 align:middle line:84%
3 to 6 moles of oxygen per
meter squared per year.

00:47:30.050 --> 00:47:32.360 align:middle line:84%
Which at the time, when
Bill first published,

00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:38.300 align:middle line:84%
this was a strikingly large
number because people thought

00:47:38.300 --> 00:47:41.580 align:middle line:84%
that the product-- if you
converted this to carbon units,

00:47:41.580 --> 00:47:44.940 align:middle line:84%
people thought at the time, that
all the primary productivity

00:47:44.940 --> 00:47:46.100 align:middle line:90%
at Bermuda--

00:47:46.100 --> 00:47:48.720 align:middle line:84%
the total primary productivity,
not export production,

00:47:48.720 --> 00:47:51.400 align:middle line:84%
but primary productivity,
was in about the same--

00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:53.860 align:middle line:90%
was about the same values.

00:47:53.860 --> 00:47:57.300 align:middle line:84%
And so there was a big
ongoing controversy

00:47:57.300 --> 00:48:01.900 align:middle line:84%
of a lot of the people doing
incubation studies arguing

00:48:01.900 --> 00:48:03.900 align:middle line:84%
that the geochemical
techniques had to be wrong

00:48:03.900 --> 00:48:06.280 align:middle line:84%
and the geochemists
scratching their heads saying,

00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.660 align:middle line:84%
well, we can't figure
out why it's wrong.

00:48:09.660 --> 00:48:13.060 align:middle line:84%
These numbers have
held up over time,

00:48:13.060 --> 00:48:15.220 align:middle line:84%
and estimates of the
primary productivity

00:48:15.220 --> 00:48:16.980 align:middle line:90%
have been reevaluated.

00:48:16.980 --> 00:48:20.200 align:middle line:84%
And it appears that,
as [INAUDIBLE] cycle,

00:48:20.200 --> 00:48:22.140 align:middle line:90%
you miss a lot of events.

00:48:22.140 --> 00:48:27.340 align:middle line:84%
And so if you're not careful,
you're totally biasing--

00:48:27.340 --> 00:48:30.190 align:middle line:84%
you totally bias your
estimate, and you

00:48:30.190 --> 00:48:34.430 align:middle line:84%
tend to bias it low because the
events tend to be very episodic.

00:48:34.430 --> 00:48:37.490 align:middle line:84%
And so the primary production
might go along like this

00:48:37.490 --> 00:48:40.590 align:middle line:84%
and then have some big
event and another big spike.

00:48:40.590 --> 00:48:43.910 align:middle line:84%
And so because
it's so skewed, you

00:48:43.910 --> 00:48:47.310 align:middle line:84%
tend to always-- you tend
to estimate low values.

00:48:47.310 --> 00:48:49.950 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: When did they
come fix the trace metal

00:48:49.950 --> 00:48:50.990 align:middle line:90%
issues with the--

00:48:50.990 --> 00:48:54.690 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: The trace metal
issues were early to mid '70s.

00:48:54.690 --> 00:48:56.030 align:middle line:90%
So this was post--

00:48:56.030 --> 00:49:00.350 align:middle line:84%
a lot of the data that went
into Epley and Peterson in '79

00:49:00.350 --> 00:49:04.190 align:middle line:84%
is just still horribly
trace metal-contaminated.

00:49:04.190 --> 00:49:07.430 align:middle line:84%
And so there was some of
that in this argument,

00:49:07.430 --> 00:49:10.030 align:middle line:84%
that there were trace
metal issues as well, so it

00:49:10.030 --> 00:49:11.650 align:middle line:84%
is a combination--
yeah, you're right,

00:49:11.650 --> 00:49:13.233 align:middle line:84%
it is a combination
of the trace metal

00:49:13.233 --> 00:49:15.430 align:middle line:84%
effects and the
primary production

00:49:15.430 --> 00:49:18.570 align:middle line:84%
and some really, really
pig-headed people.

00:49:18.570 --> 00:49:22.590 align:middle line:90%


00:49:22.590 --> 00:49:27.940 align:middle line:84%
There are some caveats
and biases with the--

00:49:27.940 --> 00:49:30.720 align:middle line:90%


00:49:30.720 --> 00:49:35.280 align:middle line:84%
mixing can tend to
screw up tracer ages.

00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.460 align:middle line:84%
And I won't go into
detail about that,

00:49:37.460 --> 00:49:42.480 align:middle line:84%
but there's been a lot of
work on that, of how you--

00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.240 align:middle line:84%
remember, the assumption was
that the water left the surface

00:49:46.240 --> 00:49:49.800 align:middle line:84%
and went down as a
nice Lagrangian parcel,

00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:56.280 align:middle line:84%
but if there's mixing, it can
tend to alias the tracer ages.

00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:57.880 align:middle line:84%
And one of the
ways is people have

00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.180 align:middle line:90%
looked at is multiple tracers.

00:50:00.180 --> 00:50:05.120 align:middle line:84%
So they'll look at CFCs,
they'll look at radium-228,

00:50:05.120 --> 00:50:09.840 align:middle line:84%
which tends to have a
continental source--

00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:12.960 align:middle line:84%
continental shelf source that
comes out in the surface water

00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:17.040 align:middle line:84%
and then gets
advected into depth.

00:50:17.040 --> 00:50:21.200 align:middle line:84%
And then they'll also
use the tritium/helium.

00:50:21.200 --> 00:50:25.600 align:middle line:84%
And by combining
tracers, you can resolve

00:50:25.600 --> 00:50:28.110 align:middle line:90%
some of these mixing issues.

00:50:28.110 --> 00:50:34.250 align:middle line:90%


00:50:34.250 --> 00:50:38.230 align:middle line:84%
OK, I might actually
get all caught up today.

00:50:38.230 --> 00:50:41.370 align:middle line:90%


00:50:41.370 --> 00:50:45.290 align:middle line:84%
So these have-- the
tritium/helium/freon

00:50:45.290 --> 00:50:49.290 align:middle line:84%
approaches have been used
quite a bit in the upper ocean

00:50:49.290 --> 00:50:52.730 align:middle line:84%
and are now an
accepted technique

00:50:52.730 --> 00:50:56.750 align:middle line:84%
for backing out oxygen
utilization rates.

00:50:56.750 --> 00:50:59.610 align:middle line:84%
They've now been
applied to dissolved

00:50:59.610 --> 00:51:03.530 align:middle line:84%
inorganic carbon,
alkalinity, nutrients,

00:51:03.530 --> 00:51:05.190 align:middle line:90%
you name it, as a tracer.

00:51:05.190 --> 00:51:07.090 align:middle line:84%
People have tried
to use these age

00:51:07.090 --> 00:51:10.090 align:middle line:84%
approaches to get
at the production

00:51:10.090 --> 00:51:12.890 align:middle line:84%
rates, the geochemical
production rates

00:51:12.890 --> 00:51:15.970 align:middle line:90%
in the thermocline.

00:51:15.970 --> 00:51:21.770 align:middle line:84%
In the deep water, there's
just not enough tritium or CFCs

00:51:21.770 --> 00:51:26.460 align:middle line:84%
to be particularly confident
about your age model

00:51:26.460 --> 00:51:29.920 align:middle line:84%
because the water is, for
the most part, pretty old,

00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:33.340 align:middle line:84%
and you have a little
bit of a signal coming in

00:51:33.340 --> 00:51:35.340 align:middle line:90%
from these transient tracers.

00:51:35.340 --> 00:51:40.540 align:middle line:84%
And so what's typically
done for the older waters

00:51:40.540 --> 00:51:46.740 align:middle line:84%
is to rely on radiocarbon to get
at those slow remineralization

00:51:46.740 --> 00:51:47.440 align:middle line:90%
rates.

00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:54.580 align:middle line:90%


00:51:54.580 --> 00:51:56.960 align:middle line:84%
And some of this
was work-- well,

00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:01.580 align:middle line:84%
this has been pioneered
by a number of people.

00:52:01.580 --> 00:52:06.860 align:middle line:84%
Harmon Craig, Walter Monk,
Wally Broecker starting

00:52:06.860 --> 00:52:10.300 align:middle line:84%
in the '60s and in the '70s when
they started to make the first

00:52:10.300 --> 00:52:12.740 align:middle line:90%
radiocarbon measurements.

00:52:12.740 --> 00:52:26.590 align:middle line:84%
And so what was done was to use
radiocarbon for your age model.

00:52:26.590 --> 00:52:33.110 align:middle line:84%
And you had to make corrections
because of endmember mixing.

00:52:33.110 --> 00:52:38.050 align:middle line:84%
So this would be age
model for deepwater.

00:52:38.050 --> 00:52:41.790 align:middle line:90%


00:52:41.790 --> 00:52:52.670 align:middle line:84%
And so often, what you would
see is that the radiocarbon

00:52:52.670 --> 00:52:55.230 align:middle line:84%
would have different
endmembers, just like we were

00:52:55.230 --> 00:52:57.870 align:middle line:90%
talking about for preformed.

00:52:57.870 --> 00:53:01.370 align:middle line:84%
And some of the assumptions
were very crude.

00:53:01.370 --> 00:53:02.810 align:middle line:90%
They didn't even use salinity.

00:53:02.810 --> 00:53:07.230 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes they used
salinity, sometimes they just

00:53:07.230 --> 00:53:11.705 align:middle line:84%
used latitude and treated the
whole deepwater as one box

00:53:11.705 --> 00:53:13.330 align:middle line:84%
because there were
so few measurements.

00:53:13.330 --> 00:53:16.230 align:middle line:84%
This was back before
the AMS techniques,

00:53:16.230 --> 00:53:19.690 align:middle line:84%
so you needed very large volume
samples to measure radiocarbon,

00:53:19.690 --> 00:53:25.960 align:middle line:84%
and it was rather
tedious to collect.

00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:33.040 align:middle line:84%
And so what people would
do would be to just fit--

00:53:33.040 --> 00:53:37.160 align:middle line:84%
look at the observations
relative to a mixing curve,

00:53:37.160 --> 00:53:43.960 align:middle line:84%
estimated delta for delta tracer
relative to the approximation

00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.120 align:middle line:90%
of a mixing curve.

00:53:46.120 --> 00:53:53.640 align:middle line:84%
And so for example, you could
plot delta oxygen or minus delta

00:53:53.640 --> 00:53:54.880 align:middle line:90%
oxygen--

00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.760 align:middle line:90%
nope, sorry.

00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:58.400 align:middle line:84%
Plus delta oxygen
because I stole this

00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.320 align:middle line:90%
from a different place.

00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:12.280 align:middle line:84%
Or AOU versus delta delta 14C
where the second delta is just

00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:16.220 align:middle line:84%
the fact that you've corrected
it for the mixing model.

00:54:16.220 --> 00:54:18.770 align:middle line:90%


00:54:18.770 --> 00:54:23.130 align:middle line:84%
And when you do
that, you get a plot

00:54:23.130 --> 00:54:28.730 align:middle line:90%
that looks something like this.

00:54:28.730 --> 00:54:30.810 align:middle line:84%
Waters that have
high radiocarbon

00:54:30.810 --> 00:54:38.870 align:middle line:84%
tend to have high oxygen. And
as you get to older waters,

00:54:38.870 --> 00:54:42.256 align:middle line:90%
they tend to have lower--

00:54:42.256 --> 00:54:43.690 align:middle line:90%
strike that, hang on.

00:54:43.690 --> 00:54:46.930 align:middle line:84%
I'm having sign
convention problems here.

00:54:46.930 --> 00:54:54.770 align:middle line:84%
So this would be delta
AOU or delta minus oxygen.

00:54:54.770 --> 00:55:00.810 align:middle line:84%
So where you have
high delta AOU--

00:55:00.810 --> 00:55:02.810 align:middle line:90%
hang on.

00:55:02.810 --> 00:55:05.970 align:middle line:90%
Did that backwards again.

00:55:05.970 --> 00:55:14.970 align:middle line:84%
Where you had-- well, where
you have younger waters,

00:55:14.970 --> 00:55:18.380 align:middle line:84%
you don't have nearly as
much change in oxygen,

00:55:18.380 --> 00:55:20.300 align:middle line:84%
and where you have
older waters, you

00:55:20.300 --> 00:55:23.020 align:middle line:84%
have a large change
in oxygen. And they

00:55:23.020 --> 00:55:28.860 align:middle line:84%
got rates of approximately
1 micromole or less

00:55:28.860 --> 00:55:33.820 align:middle line:90%
per kilogram per mL.

00:55:33.820 --> 00:55:36.180 align:middle line:84%
That's what the slope
would look like.

00:55:36.180 --> 00:55:39.480 align:middle line:84%
And that gives you
your OUR estimate.

00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:42.540 align:middle line:90%


00:55:42.540 --> 00:55:45.460 align:middle line:90%
And if you convert that into--

00:55:45.460 --> 00:55:51.380 align:middle line:84%
if you convert this into age
for the Atlantic and Pacific,

00:55:51.380 --> 00:55:56.420 align:middle line:84%
it's something like
10 to 15 micromoles

00:55:56.420 --> 00:56:00.500 align:middle line:90%
per kilogram per century.

00:56:00.500 --> 00:56:02.780 align:middle line:84%
Remember before, we were
talking about at the base

00:56:02.780 --> 00:56:05.060 align:middle line:84%
of the thermocline, it
was 1 to 3 micromoles

00:56:05.060 --> 00:56:06.900 align:middle line:90%
per kilogram per year.

00:56:06.900 --> 00:56:08.860 align:middle line:84%
We're now talking
about something

00:56:08.860 --> 00:56:13.620 align:middle line:84%
that's about a factor of 10
less because it's 10 to 15

00:56:13.620 --> 00:56:16.590 align:middle line:90%
over 100 years.

00:56:16.590 --> 00:56:19.070 align:middle line:84%
And those are probably
still the best estimates

00:56:19.070 --> 00:56:24.590 align:middle line:84%
we have for remineralization
rates in the deepwater

00:56:24.590 --> 00:56:29.950 align:middle line:84%
because a lot of the
biochemical assays,

00:56:29.950 --> 00:56:32.830 align:middle line:84%
say, for electron
transport in bacteria

00:56:32.830 --> 00:56:35.190 align:middle line:84%
or for differencing
sediment traps are just

00:56:35.190 --> 00:56:40.270 align:middle line:84%
too imprecise to really get a
long-term average value that we

00:56:40.270 --> 00:56:41.170 align:middle line:90%
would trust.

00:56:41.170 --> 00:56:46.098 align:middle line:90%


00:56:46.098 --> 00:56:48.430 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: Is that in
the deep Pacific?

00:56:48.430 --> 00:56:50.110 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: What?

00:56:50.110 --> 00:56:52.057 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: That's in the
deep Pacific, is it?

00:56:52.057 --> 00:56:54.390 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: Those are values
for both the deep Atlantic

00:56:54.390 --> 00:56:55.770 align:middle line:90%
and the deep Pacific.

00:56:55.770 --> 00:56:58.910 align:middle line:90%


00:56:58.910 --> 00:57:02.510 align:middle line:84%
I took a compilation--
this was a plot that

00:57:02.510 --> 00:57:07.470 align:middle line:84%
was a compilation of both, where
they plotted everything together

00:57:07.470 --> 00:57:09.090 align:middle line:90%
and calculated one slope.

00:57:09.090 --> 00:57:13.080 align:middle line:90%


00:57:13.080 --> 00:57:14.560 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:57:14.560 --> 00:57:19.760 align:middle line:84%
Bill's going to talk a lot
more about calcium carbonate.

00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:23.120 align:middle line:90%
I think he will.

00:57:23.120 --> 00:57:26.580 align:middle line:84%
So I was going to move
out of organic matter.

00:57:26.580 --> 00:57:29.640 align:middle line:84%
So this was the organic
matter remineralization.

00:57:29.640 --> 00:57:38.760 align:middle line:84%
I did want to talk a little
bit about opal, or silica,

00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:41.080 align:middle line:84%
before we conclude, and
then we'll wrap up a little

00:57:41.080 --> 00:57:44.120 align:middle line:90%
early today.

00:57:44.120 --> 00:57:49.960 align:middle line:84%
So opal, we talked
about you form

00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:55.880 align:middle line:84%
a lot of silicate-- or
silica in the surface water

00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:57.380 align:middle line:90%
due to diatoms.

00:57:57.380 --> 00:58:03.000 align:middle line:90%


00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:11.490 align:middle line:84%
About half of that
is remineralized

00:58:11.490 --> 00:58:12.790 align:middle line:90%
in the euphotic zone.

00:58:12.790 --> 00:58:18.130 align:middle line:90%


00:58:18.130 --> 00:58:21.490 align:middle line:84%
The other half
sinks down to depth

00:58:21.490 --> 00:58:24.930 align:middle line:84%
and is remineralized
either in the water column

00:58:24.930 --> 00:58:32.130 align:middle line:84%
or at the sea floor with some
fraction of it getting buried.

00:58:32.130 --> 00:58:39.110 align:middle line:84%
The reaction we're looking
at is something like this.

00:58:39.110 --> 00:58:44.930 align:middle line:90%
It's a hydrated silica.

00:58:44.930 --> 00:58:48.410 align:middle line:84%
So the biogenic
opal is not pure.

00:58:48.410 --> 00:58:53.210 align:middle line:84%
It's not pure silica, but it's
actually a hydrated amorphous

00:58:53.210 --> 00:58:57.150 align:middle line:90%
silica combining with water.

00:58:57.150 --> 00:59:00.050 align:middle line:84%
And the n just means that
there's a variable number

00:59:00.050 --> 00:59:02.570 align:middle line:90%
of waters in the hydration.

00:59:02.570 --> 00:59:05.846 align:middle line:90%


00:59:05.846 --> 00:59:11.360 align:middle line:90%
To go back to silicious acid.

00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:14.060 align:middle line:90%


00:59:14.060 --> 00:59:22.300 align:middle line:84%
And then that silicious
acid can lose protons.

00:59:22.300 --> 00:59:26.420 align:middle line:84%
That would be two protons
because you add a proton there.

00:59:26.420 --> 00:59:27.580 align:middle line:90%
I will give you a--

00:59:27.580 --> 00:59:31.460 align:middle line:84%
I'll give you an
important secret.

00:59:31.460 --> 00:59:34.340 align:middle line:84%
For reasons that escape me,
in the chemical oceanography

00:59:34.340 --> 00:59:39.220 align:middle line:84%
literature, people often
write silicate as SiO3,

00:59:39.220 --> 00:59:41.860 align:middle line:84%
which annoys some of the
chemists, particularly

00:59:41.860 --> 00:59:44.460 align:middle line:84%
some of the chemists
at MIT, to no end.

00:59:44.460 --> 00:59:48.700 align:middle line:84%
So if you're doing general
exams and you're in chemistry,

00:59:48.700 --> 00:59:54.580 align:middle line:84%
save yourself some grief by
writing it out as siliceous acid

00:59:54.580 --> 00:59:56.460 align:middle line:90%
and taking the protons off.

00:59:56.460 --> 00:59:58.300 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: But you will
see it in all three

00:59:58.300 --> 01:00:00.382 align:middle line:90%
of those different forms?

01:00:00.382 --> 01:00:02.340 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: You'll see
it written as all three

01:00:02.340 --> 01:00:06.740 align:middle line:84%
of those forms, but just
giving you a hint because I've

01:00:06.740 --> 01:00:09.030 align:middle line:90%
seen it enough.

01:00:09.030 --> 01:00:10.910 align:middle line:84%
It'll always come
up, why did you--

01:00:10.910 --> 01:00:16.933 align:middle line:84%
what's the valence of
silicon and siliceous acid?

01:00:16.933 --> 01:00:18.850 align:middle line:84%
And they make you walk
all the way through it,

01:00:18.850 --> 01:00:22.130 align:middle line:84%
and it's just easier to
save yourself the grief.

01:00:22.130 --> 01:00:25.710 align:middle line:90%


01:00:25.710 --> 01:00:26.650 align:middle line:90%
STUDENT: It's painful.

01:00:26.650 --> 01:00:28.225 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Yeah.

01:00:28.225 --> 01:00:29.850 align:middle line:84%
I can't remember if
you had to do that.

01:00:29.850 --> 01:00:30.650 align:middle line:90%
STUDENT: Wasn't me.

01:00:30.650 --> 01:00:34.430 align:middle line:90%
I got warned, I think.

01:00:34.430 --> 01:00:39.230 align:middle line:84%
Because when we were studying,
we were like, wait a second.

01:00:39.230 --> 01:00:40.963 align:middle line:90%
No consistency.

01:00:40.963 --> 01:00:41.630 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: No.

01:00:41.630 --> 01:00:43.880 align:middle line:84%
That's because chemical
oceanographers aren't actually

01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:44.550 align:middle line:90%
chemists.

01:00:44.550 --> 01:00:46.883 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: Well, when you're
looking for the Ksp's and you

01:00:46.883 --> 01:00:50.390 align:middle line:84%
start freaking
out, in which case.

01:00:50.390 --> 01:00:53.390 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: And these are the
k-values for these acid-base--

01:00:53.390 --> 01:00:55.770 align:middle line:90%
for the acid-base reactions.

01:00:55.770 --> 01:01:00.750 align:middle line:90%


01:01:00.750 --> 01:01:07.440 align:middle line:84%
As you increase
the pH of seawater,

01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:14.800 align:middle line:84%
you will tend to decrease
the amount of siliceous acid.

01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.240 align:middle line:84%
And it's actually
the siliceous acid

01:01:17.240 --> 01:01:23.520 align:middle line:84%
that's involved in the
dissolution solubility reactions

01:01:23.520 --> 01:01:26.500 align:middle line:84%
with the amorphous
hydrated silica.

01:01:26.500 --> 01:01:29.080 align:middle line:90%


01:01:29.080 --> 01:01:32.240 align:middle line:84%
And so as you increase
the pH of the water,

01:01:32.240 --> 01:01:34.540 align:middle line:84%
you actually increase
the solubility.

01:01:34.540 --> 01:01:37.240 align:middle line:84%
And so one of the
things that affects

01:01:37.240 --> 01:01:41.760 align:middle line:84%
siliceous acid
dissolution is the pH,

01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:44.920 align:middle line:84%
and so there's a coupling
between the CO2 system

01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:47.540 align:middle line:90%
and the siliceous acid system.

01:01:47.540 --> 01:01:56.100 align:middle line:90%


01:01:56.100 --> 01:01:57.740 align:middle line:90%
And there's a--

01:01:57.740 --> 01:02:02.720 align:middle line:84%
I'm trying to remember if
it's in-- is it in Pilsen?

01:02:02.720 --> 01:02:11.210 align:middle line:84%
There's a rather entertaining
discussion of how you would--

01:02:11.210 --> 01:02:21.890 align:middle line:84%
how you go about computing
the Ksp for silica where

01:02:21.890 --> 01:02:27.930 align:middle line:84%
he walks you through some of
the issues of what you would--

01:02:27.930 --> 01:02:33.290 align:middle line:84%
if you were a geochemist and you
just went to a geological table,

01:02:33.290 --> 01:02:34.970 align:middle line:84%
and what you'd get
out versus what

01:02:34.970 --> 01:02:37.610 align:middle line:84%
you actually get
in the real ocean.

01:02:37.610 --> 01:02:40.090 align:middle line:84%
And the way this
was done was people

01:02:40.090 --> 01:02:43.130 align:middle line:84%
would go out into the
deep ocean and-- they

01:02:43.130 --> 01:02:48.650 align:middle line:84%
did this both for calcite
and aragonite and for silica,

01:02:48.650 --> 01:02:54.290 align:middle line:84%
is they would take, say, diatom
shells or benthic forams,

01:02:54.290 --> 01:02:58.190 align:middle line:84%
put them out in the water at
depth for a period of time,

01:02:58.190 --> 01:03:00.810 align:middle line:84%
and then see how much
they'd remineralized.

01:03:00.810 --> 01:03:03.980 align:middle line:90%
Or see what the--

01:03:03.980 --> 01:03:06.940 align:middle line:84%
if you put enough out, see what
they would come to equilibrium

01:03:06.940 --> 01:03:08.260 align:middle line:90%
with in the lab.

01:03:08.260 --> 01:03:09.860 align:middle line:84%
So they would do
kinetic experiments

01:03:09.860 --> 01:03:13.140 align:middle line:84%
where they'd put these things
out and watch them dissolve

01:03:13.140 --> 01:03:17.300 align:middle line:84%
with time, or they would put
these in the lab in seawater

01:03:17.300 --> 01:03:19.260 align:middle line:84%
and basically allow
it to dissolve

01:03:19.260 --> 01:03:21.420 align:middle line:84%
until it came into
equilibrium with the water.

01:03:21.420 --> 01:03:25.500 align:middle line:84%
Because these are not pure
mineral phases, and particularly

01:03:25.500 --> 01:03:29.460 align:middle line:84%
because of this amorphous
hydration, a lot of the kinetics

01:03:29.460 --> 01:03:32.540 align:middle line:84%
you would estimate
from pure phases

01:03:32.540 --> 01:03:36.220 align:middle line:84%
and the solubility product
you'd estimate from pure phases

01:03:36.220 --> 01:03:37.780 align:middle line:90%
are unrealistic.

01:03:37.780 --> 01:03:44.180 align:middle line:84%
They're not going to be very
useful for environmental work.

01:03:44.180 --> 01:03:50.820 align:middle line:84%
The Ksp for silica, for the
amorphous silica in the ocean,

01:03:50.820 --> 01:03:58.340 align:middle line:84%
is something like 1,000
micromoles per kilogram at 3

01:03:58.340 --> 01:03:59.120 align:middle line:90%
degrees.

01:03:59.120 --> 01:04:02.430 align:middle line:90%


01:04:02.430 --> 01:04:08.570 align:middle line:84%
It's much larger than what you
would get, say, for quartz.

01:04:08.570 --> 01:04:14.350 align:middle line:90%


01:04:14.350 --> 01:04:16.370 align:middle line:90%
And it's basically the--

01:04:16.370 --> 01:04:19.870 align:middle line:90%


01:04:19.870 --> 01:04:24.350 align:middle line:84%
it has a much more imperfect
crystalline structure,

01:04:24.350 --> 01:04:26.770 align:middle line:84%
and it's much easier
for it to solubilize,

01:04:26.770 --> 01:04:31.110 align:middle line:84%
and you need a higher silicate
concentration to balance that.

01:04:31.110 --> 01:04:33.470 align:middle line:84%
It'll come into equilibrium
with a much higher silicate

01:04:33.470 --> 01:04:35.590 align:middle line:90%
concentration.

01:04:35.590 --> 01:04:41.070 align:middle line:84%
Now, 1,000 is actually
the highest values you see

01:04:41.070 --> 01:04:43.470 align:middle line:90%
in the ocean.

01:04:43.470 --> 01:04:45.710 align:middle line:90%
I think you can see the--

01:04:45.710 --> 01:04:49.670 align:middle line:84%
I don't know if you can
see the color bar here.

01:04:49.670 --> 01:04:53.430 align:middle line:84%
This is the silicate
distribution along that section

01:04:53.430 --> 01:04:54.550 align:middle line:90%
that we've been--

01:04:54.550 --> 01:04:56.670 align:middle line:90%
I've been showing you.

01:04:56.670 --> 01:04:59.360 align:middle line:84%
Values are quite low
in the surface ocean,

01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.280 align:middle line:84%
less than 10, and in fact,
a lot of the North Atlantic

01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.720 align:middle line:90%
has values less than 10.

01:05:04.720 --> 01:05:06.880 align:middle line:84%
The highest values you
see in the North Pacific

01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:10.360 align:middle line:90%
are up somewhere around 200.

01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:17.480 align:middle line:84%
So essentially, everywhere
in the water column,

01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:24.160 align:middle line:84%
everywhere in the
water column, it's

01:05:24.160 --> 01:05:30.860 align:middle line:84%
undersaturated with respect
to this amorphous silica.

01:05:30.860 --> 01:05:33.800 align:middle line:90%


01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.320 align:middle line:84%
The reason why the
particles actually

01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:39.400 align:middle line:84%
can make it to the sea
floor and not dissolve

01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:44.380 align:middle line:84%
has to do with the kinetics
and the sinking velocity.

01:05:44.380 --> 01:05:46.920 align:middle line:90%


01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:50.520 align:middle line:84%
So the kinetics have
to be slow enough such

01:05:50.520 --> 01:05:54.620 align:middle line:84%
that we know silica
reaches the bottom.

01:05:54.620 --> 01:05:57.570 align:middle line:84%
In fact, there are large parts
of the oceans that the sediments

01:05:57.570 --> 01:06:05.210 align:middle line:84%
are made up of diatom frustules
which says that the kinetics

01:06:05.210 --> 01:06:06.770 align:middle line:84%
must be slow enough
sinking through--

01:06:06.770 --> 01:06:09.370 align:middle line:90%
that the sinking velocity is--

01:06:09.370 --> 01:06:12.490 align:middle line:84%
can get them to the bottom
before they dissolve.

01:06:12.490 --> 01:06:20.570 align:middle line:84%
Or they're somehow protected
by some organic coating

01:06:20.570 --> 01:06:24.930 align:middle line:90%
or some other factor.

01:06:24.930 --> 01:06:27.510 align:middle line:84%
Well, usually the organic--
the organic coating.

01:06:27.510 --> 01:06:33.490 align:middle line:90%


01:06:33.490 --> 01:06:39.090 align:middle line:84%
The fact that silica isn't
dissolving in the water column

01:06:39.090 --> 01:06:41.210 align:middle line:84%
once you get out of
the surface layer,

01:06:41.210 --> 01:06:43.650 align:middle line:84%
there's a fair amount of
remineralization in the surface

01:06:43.650 --> 01:06:46.890 align:middle line:84%
layer because you have
processing by organisms.

01:06:46.890 --> 01:06:49.550 align:middle line:84%
You have copepods that
are eating diatoms,

01:06:49.550 --> 01:06:55.475 align:middle line:84%
and that gets into-- you're
processing through guts.

01:06:55.475 --> 01:06:59.980 align:middle line:90%
Lots of biological processing.

01:06:59.980 --> 01:07:03.140 align:middle line:84%
Once you get below
about 1,000 meters,

01:07:03.140 --> 01:07:05.740 align:middle line:84%
it looks like most of the
silica actually makes it down

01:07:05.740 --> 01:07:09.260 align:middle line:84%
to the bottom, and then some of
it dissolves there because it

01:07:09.260 --> 01:07:11.820 align:middle line:84%
then it has a long time, it's
sitting on the bottom exposed

01:07:11.820 --> 01:07:16.140 align:middle line:84%
to deep waters, and some
of that remineralizes.

01:07:16.140 --> 01:07:27.020 align:middle line:84%
And so if you make a plot
with depth of H for SiO--

01:07:27.020 --> 01:07:29.860 align:middle line:90%


01:07:29.860 --> 01:07:38.060 align:middle line:84%
or, excuse me-- H2SiO4-, what
you see is that you have low

01:07:38.060 --> 01:07:40.900 align:middle line:90%
values at the surface--

01:07:40.900 --> 01:07:42.720 align:middle line:84%
oh, I didn't draw
that very well.

01:07:42.720 --> 01:07:44.220 align:middle line:84%
What I was trying
to do was show you

01:07:44.220 --> 01:07:47.580 align:middle line:84%
that it tends to build up
deep in the water column.

01:07:47.580 --> 01:07:50.340 align:middle line:84%
So if I were to
show you nitrate--

01:07:50.340 --> 01:07:53.910 align:middle line:84%
so this would be, say,
nitrate versus silicate.

01:07:53.910 --> 01:07:57.790 align:middle line:84%
That silicate tends to build
up deeper in the water column

01:07:57.790 --> 01:08:01.750 align:middle line:84%
and be more bottom-intensified
than nitrate.

01:08:01.750 --> 01:08:07.150 align:middle line:84%
And I can show you
that in these plots.

01:08:07.150 --> 01:08:08.730 align:middle line:90%
So this is nitrate.

01:08:08.730 --> 01:08:13.270 align:middle line:84%
You get a big subsurface
maximum around 1,000 meters,

01:08:13.270 --> 01:08:17.050 align:middle line:84%
where silicate, the maximum
is either at the bottom

01:08:17.050 --> 01:08:19.310 align:middle line:90%
or in the deep waters.

01:08:19.310 --> 01:08:22.790 align:middle line:84%
And that's just a function of
where the remineralization is

01:08:22.790 --> 01:08:23.830 align:middle line:90%
occurring.

01:08:23.830 --> 01:08:26.390 align:middle line:90%
Nitrate is coming mostly from--

01:08:26.390 --> 01:08:28.175 align:middle line:84%
coming all from
the organic matter.

01:08:28.175 --> 01:08:30.550 align:middle line:84%
The organic matter, a lot of
it's going to be mineralized

01:08:30.550 --> 01:08:36.550 align:middle line:84%
in the upper 1,000 meters,
where the silicate,

01:08:36.550 --> 01:08:39.790 align:middle line:84%
most of it that escapes the
euphotic zone is making it

01:08:39.790 --> 01:08:42.770 align:middle line:84%
to the bottom and it's
getting remineralized there,

01:08:42.770 --> 01:08:45.529 align:middle line:84%
and so it has more of
a bottom signature.

01:08:45.529 --> 01:08:50.779 align:middle line:90%


01:08:50.779 --> 01:08:53.560 align:middle line:90%
STUDENT: [INAUDIBLE]

01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:56.450 align:middle line:90%


01:08:56.450 --> 01:08:57.200 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Sure.

01:08:57.200 --> 01:09:04.160 align:middle line:90%


01:09:04.160 --> 01:09:08.279 align:middle line:90%
Any questions on silica cycling?

01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:08.960 align:middle line:90%
Sure.

01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:10.899 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: In that mineral
layer at the bottom,

01:09:10.899 --> 01:09:13.433 align:middle line:84%
is silica saturated
in the water?

01:09:13.433 --> 01:09:14.100 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: No.

01:09:14.100 --> 01:09:18.359 align:middle line:84%
It's still not-- it's never
saturated in the water column.

01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:21.500 align:middle line:84%
It does get saturated if you
move down the sediment core,

01:09:21.500 --> 01:09:25.319 align:middle line:84%
and Bill will talk about
that some next week.

01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:26.080 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:09:26.080 --> 01:09:28.359 align:middle line:84%
STUDENT: For the silica
plot that you should--

01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:31.920 align:middle line:84%
there's a build-up-- like,
it's higher concentrations

01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:34.460 align:middle line:84%
along the bottom, but then
when you get to the Pacific,

01:09:34.460 --> 01:09:36.859 align:middle line:84%
there's higher concentrations
also in the water column.

01:09:36.859 --> 01:09:37.651 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Right.

01:09:37.651 --> 01:09:39.240 align:middle line:90%
STUDENT: Is that from upwelling?

01:09:39.240 --> 01:09:40.140 align:middle line:90%
Or what is that?

01:09:40.140 --> 01:09:44.120 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: The
geochemical signature

01:09:44.120 --> 01:09:46.399 align:middle line:84%
is going to be a combination
of the remineralization

01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:48.640 align:middle line:90%
rates plus the ventilation.

01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:51.609 align:middle line:84%
And so in the North
Pacific, the younger waters

01:09:51.609 --> 01:09:53.770 align:middle line:84%
are actually coming
in along the bottom.

01:09:53.770 --> 01:09:56.630 align:middle line:84%
They're really cold
Antarctic bottom water,

01:09:56.630 --> 01:09:59.130 align:middle line:84%
and so that's penetrating
right along the bottom,

01:09:59.130 --> 01:10:03.050 align:middle line:84%
and then the water is above it
are actually are somewhat older.

01:10:03.050 --> 01:10:05.730 align:middle line:84%
And so that water has
just had more time

01:10:05.730 --> 01:10:11.730 align:middle line:84%
and seen more
remineralization over time.

01:10:11.730 --> 01:10:13.230 align:middle line:90%
OK.

01:10:13.230 --> 01:10:16.370 align:middle line:84%
There are lots of
other-- we could do--

01:10:16.370 --> 01:10:19.910 align:middle line:84%
I've shown you
nutrients and silicate.

01:10:19.910 --> 01:10:25.130 align:middle line:84%
We could look at-- there are
other biologically influenced

01:10:25.130 --> 01:10:26.170 align:middle line:90%
elements.

01:10:26.170 --> 01:10:28.410 align:middle line:90%
Things like barium.

01:10:28.410 --> 01:10:33.010 align:middle line:84%
Even to a degree,
strontium is slightly

01:10:33.010 --> 01:10:37.370 align:middle line:90%
biologically influenced.

01:10:37.370 --> 01:10:41.110 align:middle line:84%
Those are tangential to the
main emphasis of the course.

01:10:41.110 --> 01:10:43.810 align:middle line:84%
So I think what we'll
do is we'll stop there.

01:10:43.810 --> 01:10:49.160 align:middle line:84%
Bill will pick up and talk about
sediments for two lectures.