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SCOTT DONEY: There were
some questions on-- we

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had finished up on Thursday.

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We were talking about
Sverdrup's critical depth

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hypothesis and light.

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And I gather from the
recitation that there

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were some questions on that.

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So I wanted to go through
it a little bit more

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to give you guys a little bit
more background on that to help

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you with the problem set.

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And so the assumptions
we're going to make

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is that there's
some mixed layer--

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so this would be depth.

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There's some mixed layer
that's being turbulently mixed.

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And then below that if
this was temperature,

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it would drop off like that.

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And that within
that mixed layer,

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you have a phytoplankton
community and also

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some heterotrophic activity.

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And the question was,
as the mixed layer

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starts to shoal and
shallow in the spring,

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at what point can the
phytoplankton really bloom?

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At what point does the
light limitation that's

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been holding them back
all winter get relieved

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and you start to see the
classic spring bloom that's

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a very common occurrence, for
example, in the North Atlantic.

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So there were a couple
of simple equations.

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We were going to assume that
primary production is going

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to be proportional to
irradiance so that everywhere

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within this mixed layer there
would be some phytoplankton.

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And at any instance
in time they're

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going to be seeing an
instantaneous light

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and that the photosynthesis
rate at that depth

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would be some constant of
proportionality, alpha,

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this initial slope,
times an irradiance.

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Now, eventually, this would
saturate and turn over.

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But we're going to assume we're
on the linear part of the curve.

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The second assumption
that we're going to make

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is that the irradiance
at any depth

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is simply going to be
a surface irradiance

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times an exponential function,
where k is our attenuation

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coefficient.

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So k equals attenuation.

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Now, if you look at
this equation, what

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units does k have to have
if it's up in an exponential

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like that, where it's
e equals minus kz?

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[INAUDIBLE]

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AUDIENCE: 1 over meters.

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SCOTT DONEY: Has to have
one over meters, right?

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It has to have 1 over length.

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Because otherwise, there
would be a dimension up here.

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And then you can't take the
exponential of a dimension.

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So k is going to have
units of 1 over meters.

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We're also going to assume
that respiration at any depth

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is going to be a constant.

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And we'll just call
it r0 because it's

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constant through
the mixed layer.

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Is everybody with me so far?

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OK.

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So then we're going to say
we want to find the depth,

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the critical depth where--

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and we'll call this zcr--

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where the integrated respiration
just equals the integrated

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production.

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And that's going to be
the depth where we're

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going to say when mixed layer
is greater than critical depth,

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it's light limited,
and you get no bloom.

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And when mixed layer is
less than that depth,

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you get a bloom.

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So if you go ahead
and do the math,

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the integral on the lefthand
side is just r0 zcr.

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We're going to integrate
from the surface

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down to this critical depth.

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And since r is constant, it
just turns out to be that.

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The other side, we're
going to integrate--

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we'll plug in alpha i0
e to the minus kz dz.

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And if you work this out,
you'll get a nonlinear equation

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where k [? zcr ?] 1
minus e minus k [? zcr ?]

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equals r0 over alpha
i0 or r0 over p0,

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where we're just going to set
p0 to find p0 is equal alpha i0.

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So if you know your surface
irradiance and your respiration,

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you can go ahead and
calculate the critical depth.

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AUDIENCE: One more
question on that--

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just to clarify, the
k par that you give,

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you told me yesterday
that surface chlorophyll

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is what you plug in there.

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You don't have to plug
in different chlorophyll

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[INAUDIBLE] ?

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SCOTT DONEY: Right.

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The assumption is that the
mixed layer is well mixed.

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And for most situations, that's
a pretty good approximation.

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If you actually have a
turbulent mixed layer,

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the phytoplankton concentration
just can't fight it.

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It can't grow fast enough.

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The turnover time
is fast enough it

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maintains a homogeneous layer.

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OK?

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OK.

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Oops.

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On we go.

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Does everybody have that?

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So what we were going to do
today was-- we did light.

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Now we want to look at--

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nutrients is the next one.

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And typically, the way nutrient
limitation is formulated

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is in terms-- of you'll
hear it sometimes

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called a Monod curve,
Michaelis-Menten

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from enzyme kinetics.

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It's essentially just
a curve that saturates

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as you get to high nutrients.

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So if you have some uptake
of a nutrient plotted

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against the nutrient, it's going
to look something like this.

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There's going to be a period
where it's fairly linear.

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And then it's going to
saturate to some maximum value.

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So when you don't have
a lot of the nutrient,

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it's going to slow the uptake
down and slow growth down.

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But if you have the nutrient in
abundance, it'll just saturate,

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and they'll be happy
and fine, and they won't

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care if you add more nutrient.

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The typical form of this is
that uptake is parameterized

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as some maximum uptake.

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So that would be this v
max times n over n plus kn,

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where kn is a half saturation.

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And if you think about
it, if n is equal to kn,

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the denominator is going
to have a value of 2/1.

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And so kn really is the value of
n at which uptake is 1/2 v max.

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So this would be kn, and
this would be one half v max.

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Now, there's lots of
nutrients that we worry about.

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So, for example, the
standard macronutrients

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are nitrogen, phosphorus,
silicon for diatoms.

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But there's now
tremendous interest

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in various trace metals, so
iron, cobalt, zinc, perhaps

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some vitamins, a vitamin just
being some organic compound

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that the particular
species you're looking at

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can't manufacture.

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So it needs to either
get it from heterotrophy,

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or it needs to get it
from the environment

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by taking up some
dissolved organic compound.

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You need to worry about
things like weather.

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For example, for nitrogen,
is it in the form

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of nitrate or ammonia?

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It could be in the form of urea.

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It could be in the form of some
other dissolved organic nitrogen

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compound.

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And you're going to
have different uptake

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curves and different
behavior depending upon which

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nutrient you're talking about.

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And in fact, some--

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and we'll talk about this
either today or Thursday--

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organisms don't use nitrate,
a organic form that has--

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the organic nitrogen usually
looks a lot more like ammonia,

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in terms of its redox state.

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And there are
organisms that are not

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capable of assimilating nitrate.

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And so you need to know not
only which nutrients are there

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but whether the organisms
you're interested in

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can actually use that particular
form of that nutrient.

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So it's not just enough
to know whether there's

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an inorganic nitrogen, but
what form it's actually in.

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And, in fact, in some
communities, there's inhibition.

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When you have ammonia,
ammonia is much easier

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to use than nitrate.

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And if you add
ammonia to the system,

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you'll actually reduce
the nitrate uptake

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because the
organisms will switch

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because they don't
have to expend

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the energy of reducing nitrate.

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A lot of interest now in
dissolved organic nutrients, so

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DON, also DOP.

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The problem is that those
are very heterogeneous pools.

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And you have to be
very careful that you

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understand what exactly is
being taken up by the organisms.

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You can't just call it
a generic DON or a DOP.

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You really have to start
characterizing which compounds

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within that are being taken up.

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Typically, we don't think of DIC
as being a limiting nutrient.

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But it can be for some
organisms in some environments.

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And the reason why is that
many organisms can only

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take up dissolved CO2 gas.

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Remember, most of H2CO3
star is actually CO2 gas.

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And the rubisco enzyme, which
is the main enzyme for CO2

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incorporation into the
organic matter as part

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of the photosynthetic
pathway, uses CO2 gas.

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So if you were to look
at a plot of CO2 gas--

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this is now dissolved
in the water.

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So gas dissolved in the water--

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versus photosynthesis
rate, we're

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currently somewhere around
10 micromoles per kilogram.

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That would be a surface
saturation value.

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There are some
phytoplankton that

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would have a curve that look
like that, which would suggest

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that they are actually
sensitive to the DIC

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concentration or,
more importantly,

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the CO2 gas concentration.

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So you'd need to know DIC
and alkalinity or DIC and pH

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to figure out what the
actual partitioning is.

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So, for example, a E. hux,
which is a coccolithophore,

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appears to have a
shape like that.

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Other organisms-- and this is--

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AUDIENCE: So this is if you're
growing something in culture?

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SCOTT DONEY: Well,
yeah, these curves

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are mostly grown from culture.

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AUDIENCE: OK.

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So you can really isolate--

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SCOTT DONEY: Yes.

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Yeah, you would do these
experiments in culture.

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But there are many
phytoplankton that look more

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like that, where they
saturate quite quickly

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at quite low values of CO2 gas.

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And the E. hux curve looks
a lot more like the enzyme

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if you just isolate the enzyme
and look at the enzyme activity.

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So if you're growing-- so this
is some plankton and rubisco.

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So in order for these
other phytoplankton

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to have this steep
saturation curve,

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they have to have some
mechanism for concentrating CO2

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at the enzyme site.

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And you'll see this very
creative, innovative term

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called a CCM for a Carbon
Concentrating Mechanism.

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And there are a variety
of ways you could do this.

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For example, having
carbonic anhydrase, which

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is the enzyme that catalyzes
the conversion between CO2 gas

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and H2CO3, the carbonic acid,
if you had carbonic anhydrase,

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as you started to reduce
CO2 at the enzyme site,

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it would catalyze this equation.

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And you could actually
draw more carbon out

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of the inorganic carbon system.

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Another way would be-- so this
would be our carbonic anhydrase.

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You can also have active
transport, actually,

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the cell is expending
energy in order

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to increase the
CO2 concentration

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at the enzyme site.

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So there's not actually
a tremendous amount

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known about this right now.

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It's of some interest
because if you

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were to look into
the future, we're

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going to be somewhere out
around-- we're currently

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about here.

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By the end of the century,
we're going to be somewhere out

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here on this curve.

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If there is a big sensitivity
to photosynthesis,

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that's a big deal.

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But if they're
already saturated,

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they're already saturated.

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Who cares?

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So there is a lot
of interest in this,

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and people are starting to try
to look at in different systems

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to figure out what
exactly is going on.

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The last thing on nutrients
is, you will often

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hear of something called
Liebig's law or Liebig's

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law of the minimum.

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And Liebig was actually
an agricultural--

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I guess agricultural chemist.

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I don't know exactly
how to-- he was

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dealing with agricultural
plants, with crops.

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And he was interested in the
issue of-- let's say you have

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multiple limiting nutrients.

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What happens?

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Well, there's a couple
of possibilities.

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One is, you can say there's some
function f, that as you have

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this, say, a saturation
curve for some nutrient x,

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it can take on a value of
somewhere between 0 to 1.

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At 0, it would be
completely limiting.

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At 1, it wouldn't
be limiting at all.

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So your primary
production would be--

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say, it would be f
of x times p max.

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That would be for
a single nutrient.

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Now, if you have
multiple nutrients,

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it could be that p
would be f of x, f of y,

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f of z, dot, dot, dot, p max.

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So if x was limiting you by 50%
and y was limiting you by 50%

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and z was limiting you by
50%, by the time you're

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done with that string, it would
be 0.5 times 0.5 times 0.5.

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You'd have very low production.

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What Liebig argued
was that it actually

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should be that there's a single
limiting nutrient at any time.

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So you'd look at the
limitation due to x,

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limitation due to the
y, limitation due to z.

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You'd take the one that
was the most limiting,

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and that would set the rate.

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So if you don't have enough
phosphorus-- phosphorus is only

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there to get you
like 20% growth rate,

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of your maximum growth rate.

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Doesn't matter that nitrogen
might be at 30% or silica

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might be at 40%.

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It would be set by that
single that single maximum.

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This has become-- it's
now called the law.

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Well, it's an
empirical observation.

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And it's a guess
that organisms would

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adapt themselves so
that everything else--

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that they would concentrate
and be limited only

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by the thing that
was most limiting,

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and that if everything else
was a little greater than that,

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they could survive
and limp along.

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It doesn't always hold.

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Sometimes you'll have
what's called co-limitation,

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particularly if-- for example,
a classic co-limitation is,

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you need this reaction.

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Remember that we talked
about the nitrogen reduction

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to ammonia.

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The reductase, the
enzyme that does

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this reduction, the enzyme
system, is iron rich.

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And so you might
have a co-limitation

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where there's an iron
limitation on this reductase.

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And so your rate
might depend on both

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how much nitrate you have
there-- because that's

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what you're using--
but also the iron

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because the iron's
limiting how quickly you

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can use that nitrate.

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So there are nutrient-nutrient
co-limitations.

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You'll also see
nutrient-light co-limitations.

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The Liebig's law of the minimum
is a good first approximation,

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probably better than the
multiplicative approach.

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This would be the
multiplicative.

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But it's not like
the law of gravity.

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AUDIENCE: There's [? probably ?]
problems with that too but--

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SCOTT DONEY: Yeah,
the fifth force.

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AUDIENCE: It used to work.

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SCOTT DONEY: The law of gravity?

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AUDIENCE: Yeah.

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SCOTT DONEY: Yeah.

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One never knows.

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Maybe Congress will repeal it.

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AUDIENCE: They might try.

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SCOTT DONEY: I don't know.

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There's an apocryphal story.

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I don't know if
it's actually true.

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But I read somewhere
that the state of Ohio

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once tried to mandate
that the value of pi

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had to be 3 because
they thought it was

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too inconvenient
for the students

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that it was an
irrational number.

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But--

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] Ohio.

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SCOTT DONEY: That might
just be one of those--

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it sounds too good to be true.

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So--

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AUDIENCE: It does sound good.

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SCOTT DONEY: OK.

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The last limitation
is temperature.

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And temperature is an
awkward one because--

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people talk about
temperature limitation.

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And it depends on what sort
of background you come from.

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If you're a
card-carrying biologist,

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we're going to define a
parameter called mu, where

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mu is the specific growth rate.

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And let's say you're
some phytoplankton.

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Or you're a biologist
measuring phytoplankton.

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You don't actually have to
be phytoplankton to do this.

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Mu is going to be--
you're going to look

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at the growth rate of whatever
organism you're looking at.

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And then you're going to divide
it by the instantaneous biomass

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that you're keeping track of.

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So if you're keeping track of
moles of carbon in the organism,

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it would be the rate
of change of moles

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of carbon divided by the moles
of carbon in the organism.

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And so if you look at
this, the units for mu--

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so this is equal mu--

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have to have units
of 1 over time.

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So they're often expressed
for phytoplankton in days,

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so like 1 over days, because
that's about the generation

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time for phytoplankton
and bacteria,

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is something like half
a day to a few days.

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So that's the common-- and it's
much better than if you just

00:25:29.010 --> 00:25:29.790 align:middle line:90%
did--

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if you just reported
things as dp dt,

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it would really depend on how
rich your culture was, how much

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phytoplankton you had there.

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Unfortunately, this is
a culture-based view.

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And the reason why
is, in the field, we

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often don't know how much
actual biomass there is.

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So we'll talk about these
photosynthesis rates.

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And you might try to
normalize it to something.

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But it's often
hard to figure out

00:26:04.450 --> 00:26:08.290 align:middle line:84%
exactly how many viable
living phytoplankton are there

00:26:08.290 --> 00:26:09.370 align:middle line:90%
in the field.

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And so for culture stuff, you'll
often see it in the form of mu.

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For a lot of field work,
you'll just see it as dp dt,

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or it'll express as just
a photosynthesis rate.

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For the temperature.

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Often what you see for
a lot of organisms,

00:26:33.610 --> 00:26:36.270 align:middle line:84%
whether aquatic
or terrestrial, is

00:26:36.270 --> 00:26:40.270 align:middle line:84%
that if you plot mu as a
function of temperature,

00:26:40.270 --> 00:26:43.770 align:middle line:84%
you'll see some tail where
they'll grow pretty low-- well,

00:26:43.770 --> 00:26:47.350 align:middle line:84%
they'll grow, but not
well, at low temperatures.

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There'll be some optimal
temperature band.

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And then it's a very steep fall
off if you go above the optimum.

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So it's asymmetric with respect
to the optimal temperature.

00:27:05.290 --> 00:27:10.750 align:middle line:90%


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That's great if you're
doing individual organisms.

00:27:13.210 --> 00:27:17.250 align:middle line:84%
But often, people are interested
in what happens to a community.

00:27:17.250 --> 00:27:19.230 align:middle line:84%
And the community
will actually shift

00:27:19.230 --> 00:27:21.840 align:middle line:84%
as you move through
the seasons, in part

00:27:21.840 --> 00:27:24.040 align:middle line:84%
because as the
temperature warms up,

00:27:24.040 --> 00:27:26.000 align:middle line:90%
bugs that weren't doing well--

00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:31.498 align:middle line:84%
as the temperature shifts--
and let's say it gets warmer.

00:27:31.498 --> 00:27:33.040 align:middle line:84%
Some of the bugs,
you've now exceeded

00:27:33.040 --> 00:27:36.160 align:middle line:84%
their optimal temperature,
and they die off.

00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:40.800 align:middle line:84%
Other bugs, you're just kind of
entering their suboptimal lower

00:27:40.800 --> 00:27:41.900 align:middle line:90%
temperature range.

00:27:41.900 --> 00:27:44.040 align:middle line:90%
And so they'll start to grow.

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And so what you'll often see
is a curve that looks more

00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:55.420 align:middle line:84%
like this, which
is, for a community,

00:27:55.420 --> 00:28:01.280 align:middle line:84%
there's a whole collection
of temperatures over which it

00:28:01.280 --> 00:28:09.540 align:middle line:84%
will grow, where if you were to
plot the upper envelope of that,

00:28:09.540 --> 00:28:11.760 align:middle line:84%
that upper envelope
tends to increase as you

00:28:11.760 --> 00:28:13.440 align:middle line:90%
get to higher temperatures.

00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:16.340 align:middle line:84%
So for any particular organism,
that might not be true.

00:28:16.340 --> 00:28:18.680 align:middle line:84%
But for the community,
as you go to warmer

00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:21.460 align:middle line:84%
and warmer temperatures,
growth rates tend to go up.

00:28:21.460 --> 00:28:26.060 align:middle line:84%
Enzyme reactions go faster
is the basic argument,

00:28:26.060 --> 00:28:31.900 align:middle line:84%
that your metabolism can run
faster at higher temperatures.

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Note the presence of warmth
of warm-blooded, endothermic

00:28:36.340 --> 00:28:40.900 align:middle line:84%
animals, in part because their
metabolism can run faster.

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In '72, Epley
published an equation

00:28:47.260 --> 00:28:52.660 align:middle line:84%
that he probably never figured
people would use this much,

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but they do.

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If you publish a
useful approximation,

00:28:58.380 --> 00:29:00.180 align:middle line:84%
people seem to
just flock to it--

00:29:00.180 --> 00:29:04.140 align:middle line:84%
where he said that the
upper envelope could

00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:12.060 align:middle line:84%
be approximated for
phytoplankton as mu of t t,

00:29:12.060 --> 00:29:15.803 align:middle line:90%
in degrees, c.

00:29:15.803 --> 00:29:17.220 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: That's
empirical, right?

00:29:17.220 --> 00:29:18.803 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: This
is purely empirical.

00:29:18.803 --> 00:29:26.430 align:middle line:90%


00:29:26.430 --> 00:29:29.070 align:middle line:84%
And that gives you a
pretty useful sense for,

00:29:29.070 --> 00:29:31.670 align:middle line:84%
if you're in cold
climates, photosynthesis

00:29:31.670 --> 00:29:32.490 align:middle line:90%
is going to be low.

00:29:32.490 --> 00:29:35.110 align:middle line:84%
If you're in warmer
climates, it gives a doubling

00:29:35.110 --> 00:29:39.750 align:middle line:90%
of about every 10 degrees.

00:29:39.750 --> 00:29:44.470 align:middle line:84%
c is approximately a
doubling, yeah, doubling,

00:29:44.470 --> 00:29:47.370 align:middle line:90%
doubling of growth rate.

00:29:47.370 --> 00:29:54.430 align:middle line:90%


00:29:54.430 --> 00:29:59.710 align:middle line:84%
So what does this all look like
if we pull this all together?

00:29:59.710 --> 00:30:02.090 align:middle line:90%
We talked about--

00:30:02.090 --> 00:30:05.150 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Question--
question from MIT.

00:30:05.150 --> 00:30:07.050 align:middle line:90%
What's below 0.6?

00:30:07.050 --> 00:30:08.950 align:middle line:90%
Sorry.

00:30:08.950 --> 00:30:10.125 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Days.

00:30:10.125 --> 00:30:10.750 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Days.

00:30:10.750 --> 00:30:13.447 align:middle line:90%
Thank you.

00:30:13.447 --> 00:30:14.530 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Sorry, Virginia.

00:30:14.530 --> 00:30:15.370 align:middle line:90%
We can't see you.

00:30:15.370 --> 00:30:16.550 align:middle line:90%


00:30:16.550 --> 00:30:18.370 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Don't worry.

00:30:18.370 --> 00:30:24.250 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: So at 0
degrees C, this goes to 0.

00:30:24.250 --> 00:30:30.530 align:middle line:84%
The 1.066-- anything
raised to the 0 power is 1.

00:30:30.530 --> 00:30:35.210 align:middle line:84%
So it's 0.6 days at
0 degrees C. So it

00:30:35.210 --> 00:30:47.250 align:middle line:84%
would be at 0 degrees C
goes to 0.61 over day.

00:30:47.250 --> 00:30:49.290 align:middle line:90%
That's for-- it would be mu.

00:30:49.290 --> 00:30:51.790 align:middle line:84%
Don't use Kelvin,
does awful things.

00:30:51.790 --> 00:30:56.130 align:middle line:90%


00:30:56.130 --> 00:30:57.630 align:middle line:90%
So what does this look like?

00:30:57.630 --> 00:31:01.050 align:middle line:90%
We talked a little bit about--

00:31:01.050 --> 00:31:02.250 align:middle line:90%
oh.

00:31:02.250 --> 00:31:04.410 align:middle line:84%
Well, there's, what
does this look like,

00:31:04.410 --> 00:31:06.390 align:middle line:90%
in terms of seasonal cycles?

00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:10.850 align:middle line:90%


00:31:10.850 --> 00:31:12.650 align:middle line:84%
And I think I showed
this the other day.

00:31:12.650 --> 00:31:17.180 align:middle line:84%
There's two end
members if you were

00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:19.120 align:middle line:90%
to look at the annual cycle.

00:31:19.120 --> 00:31:24.180 align:middle line:90%


00:31:24.180 --> 00:31:26.480 align:middle line:84%
Often, for the
Northern Hemisphere,

00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:31.260 align:middle line:84%
the mixed layer depth will
do something like that.

00:31:31.260 --> 00:31:38.080 align:middle line:84%
So it gets deeper in the
winter, shallower in the summer,

00:31:38.080 --> 00:31:41.500 align:middle line:90%
deeper in the winter.

00:31:41.500 --> 00:31:49.140 align:middle line:84%
And you see, in some regions,
like the North Atlantic,

00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:55.340 align:middle line:84%
you'll see a big
bloom of phytoplankton

00:31:55.340 --> 00:31:58.800 align:middle line:90%
in both the spring and the fall.

00:31:58.800 --> 00:32:02.860 align:middle line:84%
So this would be
your phytoplankton.

00:32:02.860 --> 00:32:07.540 align:middle line:84%
The proxy for that
might be chlorophyll.

00:32:07.540 --> 00:32:20.920 align:middle line:84%
And the nutrients
might look like that,

00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:23.760 align:middle line:90%
where this is the nutrients.

00:32:23.760 --> 00:32:26.060 align:middle line:84%
And so the idea is,
during the winter,

00:32:26.060 --> 00:32:28.760 align:middle line:84%
you have a lot of mixing,
brings a lot of nutrients up.

00:32:28.760 --> 00:32:31.440 align:middle line:84%
When the mixed layer
shoals, you get

00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:34.620 align:middle line:84%
a bloom because of the
release of light limitation.

00:32:34.620 --> 00:32:36.480 align:middle line:84%
You have lots of
nutrients present.

00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.720 align:middle line:90%
That draws the nutrients down.

00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.520 align:middle line:84%
You have a period over
the summer where you

00:32:40.520 --> 00:32:42.220 align:middle line:90%
don't have a lot of nutrients.

00:32:42.220 --> 00:32:44.800 align:middle line:84%
You have a lot of light
but not a lot of nutrients.

00:32:44.800 --> 00:32:48.280 align:middle line:84%
You have some background
phytoplankton concentration.

00:32:48.280 --> 00:32:51.140 align:middle line:84%
And then in the winter,
when you mix down again,

00:32:51.140 --> 00:32:53.300 align:middle line:84%
you kick up a little
bit of nutrients.

00:32:53.300 --> 00:32:56.960 align:middle line:84%
And that tends to
drive a fall bloom.

00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:02.680 align:middle line:84%
So this would be
spring and fall.

00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.880 align:middle line:84%
A lot of this is based
off of measurements

00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.760 align:middle line:84%
that were made by
the Scandinavians

00:33:07.760 --> 00:33:09.620 align:middle line:84%
in the early part
of the last century.

00:33:09.620 --> 00:33:13.460 align:middle line:84%
That was where a lot
biological oceanography really

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:15.540 align:middle line:90%
got its start.

00:33:15.540 --> 00:33:19.140 align:middle line:84%
So that was considered
canonical or normal.

00:33:19.140 --> 00:33:28.500 align:middle line:84%
There are other places that have
a fairly different seasonality.

00:33:28.500 --> 00:33:34.740 align:middle line:84%
And-- oh, in this plot,
the primary production

00:33:34.740 --> 00:33:39.940 align:middle line:90%
follows phytoplankton.

00:33:39.940 --> 00:33:44.300 align:middle line:84%
So I won't draw it on there
because I'll just confuse

00:33:44.300 --> 00:33:47.140 align:middle line:90%
an already complicated drawing.

00:33:47.140 --> 00:33:49.880 align:middle line:84%
But for example-- so this
would be the North Atlantic.

00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:54.220 align:middle line:90%


00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:59.020 align:middle line:84%
But if you go to parts
of the North Pacific,

00:33:59.020 --> 00:34:01.700 align:middle line:84%
you see a very
different pattern.

00:34:01.700 --> 00:34:09.139 align:middle line:84%
There, the nutrients never
get drawn all the way down.

00:34:09.139 --> 00:34:14.710 align:middle line:84%
So there is a seasonality
to the nutrients,

00:34:14.710 --> 00:34:19.949 align:middle line:84%
but they're never reduced
all the way down to 0.

00:34:19.949 --> 00:34:31.409 align:middle line:84%
You see chlorophyll that looks
pretty flat through the year.

00:34:31.409 --> 00:34:34.030 align:middle line:90%


00:34:34.030 --> 00:34:42.250 align:middle line:84%
But primary production
shows a seasonality.

00:34:42.250 --> 00:34:45.350 align:middle line:90%


00:34:45.350 --> 00:34:50.949 align:middle line:84%
So this would be
primary production.

00:34:50.949 --> 00:34:58.350 align:middle line:84%
And in here, something needs to
be controlling the chlorophyll

00:34:58.350 --> 00:35:01.190 align:middle line:84%
or the phytoplankton
biomass such

00:35:01.190 --> 00:35:05.990 align:middle line:84%
that even as the primary
production increases sharply,

00:35:05.990 --> 00:35:08.790 align:middle line:90%
the biomass doesn't build up.

00:35:08.790 --> 00:35:18.810 align:middle line:84%
So this is a region where
you're focused on growth.

00:35:18.810 --> 00:35:21.450 align:middle line:84%
You have these big
events where you

00:35:21.450 --> 00:35:24.710 align:middle line:84%
supply enough nutrients and
enough light, and off they grow.

00:35:24.710 --> 00:35:27.130 align:middle line:84%
And you're mostly focused
on the growth term.

00:35:27.130 --> 00:35:29.010 align:middle line:84%
And it's only after
the bloom that you

00:35:29.010 --> 00:35:32.170 align:middle line:90%
worry about the loss terms.

00:35:32.170 --> 00:35:36.410 align:middle line:84%
So this is-- you might
call it unbalanced,

00:35:36.410 --> 00:35:42.370 align:middle line:84%
where there's a decoupling
between growth and loss.

00:35:42.370 --> 00:35:46.710 align:middle line:84%
The North Pacific, the
sort of opposite extreme--

00:35:46.710 --> 00:35:49.650 align:middle line:84%
and these are, of course,
obviously caricatures

00:35:49.650 --> 00:35:51.770 align:middle line:90%
of the real system--

00:35:51.770 --> 00:35:56.010 align:middle line:84%
is more like a steady
state, where you have

00:35:56.010 --> 00:36:01.290 align:middle line:90%
growth being balanced by loss.

00:36:01.290 --> 00:36:04.930 align:middle line:84%
So the biomass isn't
changing significantly,

00:36:04.930 --> 00:36:06.770 align:middle line:90%
but the growth term is.

00:36:06.770 --> 00:36:11.400 align:middle line:84%
And so there has to be a
corresponding control on loss.

00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:17.757 align:middle line:90%


00:36:17.757 --> 00:36:19.340 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: One more
time-- like, what's

00:36:19.340 --> 00:36:25.020 align:middle line:84%
causing the peak in the
phytoplankton there?

00:36:25.020 --> 00:36:25.720 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: OK.

00:36:25.720 --> 00:36:29.780 align:middle line:84%
So let's say your biomass
is constant all year.

00:36:29.780 --> 00:36:31.980 align:middle line:84%
And your nutrients,
they go down,

00:36:31.980 --> 00:36:33.560 align:middle line:90%
but they're always saturating.

00:36:33.560 --> 00:36:35.980 align:middle line:84%
You're always up on
that saturating curve.

00:36:35.980 --> 00:36:38.500 align:middle line:84%
What are a couple of things
that could give you seasonality

00:36:38.500 --> 00:36:39.880 align:middle line:90%
in primary production?

00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:43.820 align:middle line:90%


00:36:43.820 --> 00:36:46.360 align:middle line:84%
We just went through things
that control primary production.

00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:47.980 align:middle line:84%
What could generate
seasonality, where

00:36:47.980 --> 00:36:51.500 align:middle line:84%
you get a peak in primary
production in the summer?

00:36:51.500 --> 00:36:53.100 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Light and duration.

00:36:53.100 --> 00:36:53.767 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Light.

00:36:53.767 --> 00:36:56.500 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: Light
and temperature.

00:36:56.500 --> 00:36:59.620 align:middle line:84%
So if you had constant
biomass and you

00:36:59.620 --> 00:37:03.020 align:middle line:84%
didn't have seasonality
and nutrient limitation,

00:37:03.020 --> 00:37:04.940 align:middle line:90%
this is what you would expect.

00:37:04.940 --> 00:37:07.480 align:middle line:84%
You'd expect primary production
to go up in the summer

00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.040 align:middle line:90%
because you have more light.

00:37:09.040 --> 00:37:11.080 align:middle line:84%
And you'd expect
primary production

00:37:11.080 --> 00:37:14.080 align:middle line:84%
to be higher, photosynthesis
rates to be higher

00:37:14.080 --> 00:37:16.180 align:middle line:84%
because you have
warmer temperatures.

00:37:16.180 --> 00:37:19.960 align:middle line:90%


00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:20.680 align:middle line:90%
Does that make--

00:37:20.680 --> 00:37:22.430 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: pp is primary
production and not

00:37:22.430 --> 00:37:23.420 align:middle line:90%
phytoplankton?

00:37:23.420 --> 00:37:29.440 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: Yeah, sorry,
primary production.

00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:32.520 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: And so why does
chlorophyll stay constant then?

00:37:32.520 --> 00:37:34.400 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: Chlorophyll
stays constant

00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:41.720 align:middle line:84%
because somebody has to
be eating all the growth

00:37:41.720 --> 00:37:43.400 align:middle line:90%
I call this--

00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.560 align:middle line:84%
and this tells you how
much I like yard work.

00:37:45.560 --> 00:37:50.208 align:middle line:84%
This is the suburban
lawn hypothesis.

00:37:50.208 --> 00:37:52.500 align:middle line:84%
That's not actually called
the suburban lawn hypothesis

00:37:52.500 --> 00:37:54.100 align:middle line:90%
any place outside of this class.

00:37:54.100 --> 00:37:55.960 align:middle line:84%
But to me, this is
a classic example

00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:00.420 align:middle line:84%
of the suburban lawn, which
is, during the summer,

00:38:00.420 --> 00:38:03.040 align:middle line:84%
I have to mow the lawn, like,
twice a week because the lawn is

00:38:03.040 --> 00:38:04.920 align:middle line:90%
growing like crazy.

00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.450 align:middle line:84%
But I maintain no
change in biomass

00:38:08.450 --> 00:38:10.130 align:middle line:84%
by going out there
every couple of days

00:38:10.130 --> 00:38:13.290 align:middle line:90%
and mowing it back down flat.

00:38:13.290 --> 00:38:21.170 align:middle line:84%
So this is a system where you
have balanced growth, which

00:38:21.170 --> 00:38:27.130 align:middle line:84%
is the more canonical term
but just isn't as evocative.

00:38:27.130 --> 00:38:29.850 align:middle line:84%
So you have balanced
growth, where the loss terms

00:38:29.850 --> 00:38:33.770 align:middle line:84%
have to be balancing the
growth terms fairly closely

00:38:33.770 --> 00:38:39.090 align:middle line:84%
and maintaining no net
change in the biomass.

00:38:39.090 --> 00:38:41.610 align:middle line:90%


00:38:41.610 --> 00:38:44.330 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: The primary production
is just like total carbon

00:38:44.330 --> 00:38:45.222 align:middle line:90%
fixed here?

00:38:45.222 --> 00:38:45.930 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Yep.

00:38:45.930 --> 00:38:48.950 align:middle line:84%
Primary production
would be total--

00:38:48.950 --> 00:38:50.490 align:middle line:90%
well, yeah.

00:38:50.490 --> 00:38:53.290 align:middle line:84%
Usually, it's that net
primary production.

00:38:53.290 --> 00:38:55.510 align:middle line:84%
We're going to talk about
techniques in a minute.

00:38:55.510 --> 00:38:58.890 align:middle line:84%
But it's the total amount
of net carbon going

00:38:58.890 --> 00:39:04.190 align:middle line:84%
into the autotrophs going
into the photosynthesizers,

00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:05.490 align:middle line:90%
the phytoplankton.

00:39:05.490 --> 00:39:08.830 align:middle line:90%


00:39:08.830 --> 00:39:11.430 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So would you
see a change in biomass

00:39:11.430 --> 00:39:16.310 align:middle line:90%
and primary consumers then?

00:39:16.310 --> 00:39:19.830 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: The assumption--
and I call it an assumption

00:39:19.830 --> 00:39:23.590 align:middle line:84%
because there's not nearly as
much data on the zooplankton,

00:39:23.590 --> 00:39:26.210 align:middle line:84%
typically, as there
are on phytoplankton.

00:39:26.210 --> 00:39:29.390 align:middle line:84%
The reason is, there's a very
easy assay for phytoplankton,

00:39:29.390 --> 00:39:30.630 align:middle line:90%
which is chlorophyll.

00:39:30.630 --> 00:39:32.130 align:middle line:90%
It's not the best assay.

00:39:32.130 --> 00:39:36.830 align:middle line:84%
But it's the drunk looking
under the lamppost for his keys.

00:39:36.830 --> 00:39:38.950 align:middle line:84%
We measure phytoplankton
and chlorophyll

00:39:38.950 --> 00:39:42.150 align:middle line:84%
because it's
straightforward and easy.

00:39:42.150 --> 00:39:44.430 align:middle line:84%
If you were to look
at zooplankton,

00:39:44.430 --> 00:39:46.990 align:middle line:84%
you would assume that your
zooplankton biomass would

00:39:46.990 --> 00:39:51.270 align:middle line:84%
probably more closely track
primary production in the system

00:39:51.270 --> 00:39:55.070 align:middle line:84%
because there's got to be a
much bigger pool of zooplankton

00:39:55.070 --> 00:39:58.210 align:middle line:84%
in order to keep up with
the primary production.

00:39:58.210 --> 00:40:03.410 align:middle line:90%


00:40:03.410 --> 00:40:05.430 align:middle line:84%
Does that make sense
to you guys up there?

00:40:05.430 --> 00:40:08.010 align:middle line:90%


00:40:08.010 --> 00:40:10.250 align:middle line:90%
Yes, no?

00:40:10.250 --> 00:40:11.130 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Yes.

00:40:11.130 --> 00:40:13.850 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: OK.

00:40:13.850 --> 00:40:16.850 align:middle line:84%
And we'll get back to,
later in the course,

00:40:16.850 --> 00:40:20.370 align:middle line:84%
why these two systems
are different.

00:40:20.370 --> 00:40:23.930 align:middle line:84%
But the main thought is that
one of the things that's

00:40:23.930 --> 00:40:28.130 align:middle line:84%
different about these is that
you have probably more iron

00:40:28.130 --> 00:40:31.450 align:middle line:84%
limitation in this
balanced growth.

00:40:31.450 --> 00:40:33.290 align:middle line:84%
And the iron
limitation basically

00:40:33.290 --> 00:40:37.830 align:middle line:84%
knocks all of the
phytoplankton down a little bit

00:40:37.830 --> 00:40:42.810 align:middle line:84%
so you can't grow as
fast, so the zooplankton

00:40:42.810 --> 00:40:46.290 align:middle line:84%
have an easier time of grazing
you and keeping you in check.

00:40:46.290 --> 00:40:50.710 align:middle line:84%
And the bigger phytoplankton
that tend to bloom,

00:40:50.710 --> 00:40:53.810 align:middle line:84%
the bloom-forming species that
are harder for the zooplankton

00:40:53.810 --> 00:40:59.250 align:middle line:84%
to keep track of, are really
limited in this system

00:40:59.250 --> 00:41:01.980 align:middle line:84%
and really can't
grow nearly as fast.

00:41:01.980 --> 00:41:10.380 align:middle line:84%
And so that iron limitation, the
proximate cause for this control

00:41:10.380 --> 00:41:11.320 align:middle line:90%
is grazing.

00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:15.300 align:middle line:84%
But the distal, underlying
cause is iron limitation

00:41:15.300 --> 00:41:17.380 align:middle line:84%
on the phytoplankton
that changes

00:41:17.380 --> 00:41:20.260 align:middle line:84%
both the primary production
rates and the community

00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:23.560 align:middle line:84%
structure, so who's there,
the taxonomy of who's growing.

00:41:23.560 --> 00:41:36.220 align:middle line:90%


00:41:36.220 --> 00:41:38.520 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:41:38.520 --> 00:41:41.040 align:middle line:84%
We also might want to look
at vertical structure.

00:41:41.040 --> 00:41:56.380 align:middle line:90%


00:41:56.380 --> 00:42:00.040 align:middle line:84%
Remember, if we
look in depth, we

00:42:00.040 --> 00:42:04.960 align:middle line:84%
tend to have light dropping
off as an exponential.

00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:06.140 align:middle line:90%
So this would be light.

00:42:06.140 --> 00:42:09.520 align:middle line:90%


00:42:09.520 --> 00:42:14.080 align:middle line:90%
Nutrients often look like this.

00:42:14.080 --> 00:42:16.320 align:middle line:84%
So you have more
nutrients at depth

00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:21.000 align:middle line:90%
than you do at the surface.

00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.040 align:middle line:84%
And you'll commonly
see, particularly

00:42:24.040 --> 00:42:29.420 align:middle line:84%
in the subtropical
gyres, you'll see a--

00:42:29.420 --> 00:42:35.600 align:middle line:90%


00:42:35.600 --> 00:42:38.360 align:middle line:84%
it's hard to do without color,
but color doesn't show up

00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:42.440 align:middle line:90%
very well on the monitors.

00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.260 align:middle line:84%
You'll see what's called a
deep chlorophyll maximum.

00:42:45.260 --> 00:42:52.880 align:middle line:90%


00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:56.240 align:middle line:84%
And the deep chlorophyll
maximum can have two causes.

00:42:56.240 --> 00:43:00.430 align:middle line:84%
It can be caused by
actual cell abundance.

00:43:00.430 --> 00:43:03.210 align:middle line:90%


00:43:03.210 --> 00:43:06.810 align:middle line:84%
So it could actually be a real
maximum and biomass or cell

00:43:06.810 --> 00:43:08.330 align:middle line:90%
abundance.

00:43:08.330 --> 00:43:12.130 align:middle line:84%
And the argument there is,
well, up at the surface,

00:43:12.130 --> 00:43:14.530 align:middle line:84%
I don't have enough
nutrients to grow,

00:43:14.530 --> 00:43:17.450 align:middle line:84%
or the phytoplankton don't
have enough nutrients to grow.

00:43:17.450 --> 00:43:21.090 align:middle line:84%
There's plenty of light
but just no nutrients.

00:43:21.090 --> 00:43:24.850 align:middle line:84%
Deep in the water column, I
have nutrients but no light.

00:43:24.850 --> 00:43:26.750 align:middle line:84%
And the deep
chlorophyll maximum,

00:43:26.750 --> 00:43:30.550 align:middle line:84%
which is often somewhere
about the euphotic depth--

00:43:30.550 --> 00:43:33.490 align:middle line:90%


00:43:33.490 --> 00:43:37.810 align:middle line:84%
so, commonly, around
the 1% light level--

00:43:37.810 --> 00:43:40.530 align:middle line:84%
is kind of a happy medium,
where I might have some

00:43:40.530 --> 00:43:43.350 align:middle line:90%
nutrients there and some light.

00:43:43.350 --> 00:43:45.450 align:middle line:90%
And I need both to grow.

00:43:45.450 --> 00:43:47.610 align:middle line:84%
And so the deep
chlorophyll maximum

00:43:47.610 --> 00:43:52.570 align:middle line:84%
can be a cell abundance maximum
because of, basically, living

00:43:52.570 --> 00:43:56.990 align:middle line:84%
on the interface where you
get both light and nutrients.

00:43:56.990 --> 00:44:02.790 align:middle line:84%
It can also be an
apparent maximum

00:44:02.790 --> 00:44:05.670 align:middle line:84%
because cellular
chlorophyll to carbon ratios

00:44:05.670 --> 00:44:11.690 align:middle line:84%
vary through a process
called photoacclimation.

00:44:11.690 --> 00:44:14.390 align:middle line:90%


00:44:14.390 --> 00:44:19.310 align:middle line:84%
Photoacclimation is if you
take an individual cell,

00:44:19.310 --> 00:44:23.190 align:middle line:84%
and if they are light starved,
if they don't have enough light,

00:44:23.190 --> 00:44:26.910 align:middle line:84%
they will increase
their chlorophyll faster

00:44:26.910 --> 00:44:35.630 align:middle line:84%
than carbon or other components
of their cell mechanism.

00:44:35.630 --> 00:44:41.790 align:middle line:84%
Because if you're light
limited, what you need is light.

00:44:41.790 --> 00:44:45.170 align:middle line:84%
And so you devote-- think about
it from an energy point of view.

00:44:45.170 --> 00:44:49.910 align:middle line:84%
You're going to devote energy
to manufacturing the chlorophyll

00:44:49.910 --> 00:44:52.710 align:middle line:90%
in order to boost that up.

00:44:52.710 --> 00:44:57.000 align:middle line:84%
It can also occur
through photoadaptation.

00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:03.160 align:middle line:84%
And these terms are get bandied
about a little bit too loosely.

00:45:03.160 --> 00:45:05.720 align:middle line:84%
Photoadaptation, I
think of as, there

00:45:05.720 --> 00:45:10.280 align:middle line:84%
are some species that
are better adapted

00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:13.280 align:middle line:90%
for low light environments.

00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:20.400 align:middle line:84%
And they tend to grow in the
deep chlorophyll maximum.

00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:23.920 align:middle line:84%
And they have inherent
to them higher

00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.120 align:middle line:84%
chlorophyll-to-carbon
ratios because they're

00:45:26.120 --> 00:45:28.440 align:middle line:90%
adapted to low light.

00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:33.720 align:middle line:84%
So photoacclimation is
a physiological response

00:45:33.720 --> 00:45:36.440 align:middle line:84%
to an individual
cell or cell culture.

00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.600 align:middle line:84%
Photoadaptation
probably technically

00:45:38.600 --> 00:45:42.280 align:middle line:84%
is best thought of
as a cell succession,

00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:46.120 align:middle line:84%
as a species succession, over
longer time periods, where

00:45:46.120 --> 00:45:49.120 align:middle line:84%
one species can replace
another because it's better

00:45:49.120 --> 00:45:50.860 align:middle line:90%
acclimated to that niche.

00:45:50.860 --> 00:45:53.680 align:middle line:90%


00:45:53.680 --> 00:45:56.740 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Can any
phytoplankton acclimate to--

00:45:56.740 --> 00:46:00.740 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: Most phytoplankton
can show some acclimation.

00:46:00.740 --> 00:46:04.880 align:middle line:84%
But there's a real question
about how plastic cells are.

00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.740 align:middle line:90%


00:46:07.740 --> 00:46:12.660 align:middle line:84%
So in addition to selling this
book, which unfortunately I

00:46:12.660 --> 00:46:17.840 align:middle line:84%
don't get any money
from, I did bring down--

00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:24.660 align:middle line:90%


00:46:24.660 --> 00:46:31.140 align:middle line:84%
and just focus on the middle
graph or the middle line.

00:46:31.140 --> 00:46:33.980 align:middle line:90%
Let's do one at a time then.

00:46:33.980 --> 00:46:34.760 align:middle line:90%
How's that?

00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:38.100 align:middle line:90%


00:46:38.100 --> 00:46:38.755 align:middle line:90%
Is that good?

00:46:38.755 --> 00:46:39.380 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Good.

00:46:39.380 --> 00:46:39.880 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:41.940 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: OK.

00:46:41.940 --> 00:46:47.660 align:middle line:84%
This is panel is showing the
summertime primary production

00:46:47.660 --> 00:46:50.020 align:middle line:90%
estimated from space.

00:46:50.020 --> 00:46:55.960 align:middle line:84%
And the way this is done is,
you look at visible radiation.

00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.340 align:middle line:84%
You look at the different
colors of the radiation.

00:46:58.340 --> 00:47:02.680 align:middle line:84%
Remember, chlorophyll
absorbs in what?

00:47:02.680 --> 00:47:03.740 align:middle line:90%
Chlorophyll is green.

00:47:03.740 --> 00:47:04.922 align:middle line:90%
So what does it absorb?

00:47:04.922 --> 00:47:05.880 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Blue and red.

00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.760 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: It absorbs
blue and red, leaving green.

00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:11.900 align:middle line:84%
If you look at the light that's
backscattered out of the water,

00:47:11.900 --> 00:47:17.760 align:middle line:84%
some fraction of the sunlight
comes down, enters the ocean.

00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.160 align:middle line:84%
Some of it gets
absorbed by chlorophyll

00:47:20.160 --> 00:47:21.760 align:middle line:90%
and by phytoplankton.

00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:26.060 align:middle line:84%
But some of the remaining light
actually gets backscattered out,

00:47:26.060 --> 00:47:28.400 align:middle line:84%
leaves the ocean surface,
and you can measure it

00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.080 align:middle line:90%
from a satellite.

00:47:30.080 --> 00:47:32.120 align:middle line:84%
And if you look at the
strength of the light

00:47:32.120 --> 00:47:35.000 align:middle line:84%
and the different wavelength
bands in the visible,

00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.760 align:middle line:84%
you can actually say,
well, that water looks

00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.640 align:middle line:90%
more green than it looks blue.

00:47:39.640 --> 00:47:42.000 align:middle line:84%
Therefore, it has more
chlorophyll in it.

00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.840 align:middle line:84%
It's a little more complicated
than that but not that much.

00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:46.560 align:middle line:90%
And it's very empirical because.

00:47:46.560 --> 00:47:48.600 align:middle line:84%
We don't have excellent
models for this.

00:47:48.600 --> 00:47:53.130 align:middle line:84%
Using that, you can come up
with the amount of chlorophyll

00:47:53.130 --> 00:47:54.050 align:middle line:90%
that's there.

00:47:54.050 --> 00:47:57.210 align:middle line:84%
You can then make assumptions
about light limitation

00:47:57.210 --> 00:47:59.630 align:middle line:90%
and nutrients and temperature.

00:47:59.630 --> 00:48:02.810 align:middle line:84%
And you can come up with an
estimate of primary production.

00:48:02.810 --> 00:48:05.130 align:middle line:84%
So this is a seasonal
primary production.

00:48:05.130 --> 00:48:11.550 align:middle line:84%
It's on a log scale, which
I cut off for this purposes.

00:48:11.550 --> 00:48:14.330 align:middle line:84%
But maybe we can
scan this figure in

00:48:14.330 --> 00:48:17.290 align:middle line:90%
and get it into the notes.

00:48:17.290 --> 00:48:23.930 align:middle line:84%
So there's almost a factor of
100 range between the purples,

00:48:23.930 --> 00:48:26.970 align:middle line:84%
which are very low
productivity, and the reds which

00:48:26.970 --> 00:48:30.330 align:middle line:90%
are very high productivity.

00:48:30.330 --> 00:48:41.370 align:middle line:84%
And so what you see is that to
first order, primary production

00:48:41.370 --> 00:48:45.250 align:middle line:90%
maps to regions of upwelling.

00:48:45.250 --> 00:48:48.690 align:middle line:84%
In regions where you're bringing
nutrients up to the surface,

00:48:48.690 --> 00:48:51.230 align:middle line:84%
you have a lot of
phytoplankton, and you

00:48:51.230 --> 00:48:53.590 align:middle line:90%
have a lot of photosynthesis.

00:48:53.590 --> 00:48:59.030 align:middle line:84%
So you see maxima
along the equator

00:48:59.030 --> 00:49:01.550 align:middle line:84%
in both the Pacific
and the Atlantic,

00:49:01.550 --> 00:49:06.790 align:middle line:84%
maxima in the Arabian Sea
because of monsoonal upwelling.

00:49:06.790 --> 00:49:09.790 align:middle line:90%
This is the summer season.

00:49:09.790 --> 00:49:12.590 align:middle line:84%
Along the Benguela and
North African coasts

00:49:12.590 --> 00:49:16.030 align:middle line:84%
due to coastal upwelling,
along Peru because

00:49:16.030 --> 00:49:19.950 align:middle line:84%
of coastal upwelling, and then
in the high-latitude North

00:49:19.950 --> 00:49:22.430 align:middle line:84%
Atlantic and North
Pacific, associated

00:49:22.430 --> 00:49:25.990 align:middle line:84%
with nutrients that have been
brought up by subpolar upwelling

00:49:25.990 --> 00:49:28.630 align:middle line:84%
and also deep convective
mixing in the winter.

00:49:28.630 --> 00:49:31.230 align:middle line:84%
So you have deep convective
mixing during the winter brings

00:49:31.230 --> 00:49:33.310 align:middle line:90%
nutrients up to the surface.

00:49:33.310 --> 00:49:35.350 align:middle line:84%
In the summer, the
water stratifies,

00:49:35.350 --> 00:49:38.230 align:middle line:90%
and you get a big bloom.

00:49:38.230 --> 00:49:40.750 align:middle line:84%
If I slide this over
without knocking

00:49:40.750 --> 00:49:43.990 align:middle line:90%
my water off the table--

00:49:43.990 --> 00:49:47.270 align:middle line:90%
this is the winter season.

00:49:47.270 --> 00:49:52.600 align:middle line:84%
And what you see is, similarly,
at high latitudes in the winter

00:49:52.600 --> 00:49:54.600 align:middle line:84%
in the Northern Hemisphere,
almost no production

00:49:54.600 --> 00:49:56.600 align:middle line:90%
because it's very light limited.

00:49:56.600 --> 00:49:59.760 align:middle line:84%
You still see the equatorial
bands, the coastal bands.

00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:02.240 align:middle line:84%
And now you see this band
of higher productivity

00:50:02.240 --> 00:50:05.440 align:middle line:84%
in the Southern Ocean, which
is another region of fairly

00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:09.680 align:middle line:84%
deep mixing where you bring
nutrients up from below.

00:50:09.680 --> 00:50:12.360 align:middle line:84%
What's intriguing in
the Southern Ocean is

00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:16.800 align:middle line:84%
that you do see possible hints,
depending on which set of data

00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.960 align:middle line:84%
you look at, that the
productivity is higher downwind

00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:29.200 align:middle line:84%
or downstream of land masses
and some subsurface geological

00:50:29.200 --> 00:50:30.400 align:middle line:90%
features.

00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:34.840 align:middle line:84%
And some people are arguing
that those patterns are actually

00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:36.800 align:middle line:90%
controlled by iron.

00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:40.360 align:middle line:84%
This is a region where there's
documented iron limitation.

00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.020 align:middle line:84%
Iron has a fairly
high scavenging rate.

00:50:43.020 --> 00:50:45.320 align:middle line:84%
So there's not a lot of
iron in the surface layer.

00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.440 align:middle line:84%
And so where you have
atmospheric deposition of dust,

00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:52.900 align:middle line:84%
so, for example, off of
Patagonia or downstream

00:50:52.900 --> 00:50:56.220 align:middle line:84%
of the plateau that
New Zealand sits on

00:50:56.220 --> 00:50:58.660 align:middle line:84%
because of iron coming
off the sediments,

00:50:58.660 --> 00:51:01.620 align:middle line:84%
you might have
elevated productivity.

00:51:01.620 --> 00:51:05.140 align:middle line:84%
But those are basically the
general patterns or story

00:51:05.140 --> 00:51:09.340 align:middle line:84%
of primary production, which
is a seasonality associated

00:51:09.340 --> 00:51:11.700 align:middle line:84%
with mixing and
temperature and light

00:51:11.700 --> 00:51:15.100 align:middle line:84%
and then also broad
geographic distribution

00:51:15.100 --> 00:51:18.800 align:middle line:84%
controlled by convective mixing
and upwelling of nutrients.

00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:22.140 align:middle line:90%


00:51:22.140 --> 00:51:24.060 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I think I have
a second [INAUDIBLE].

00:51:24.060 --> 00:51:26.660 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Yeah.

00:51:26.660 --> 00:51:32.700 align:middle line:84%
The best satellite
out there is SeaWiFS.

00:51:32.700 --> 00:51:33.200 align:middle line:90%
Oops.

00:51:33.200 --> 00:51:33.700 align:middle line:90%
Whoo.

00:51:33.700 --> 00:51:39.060 align:middle line:90%


00:51:39.060 --> 00:51:42.220 align:middle line:84%
And if you just
google SeaWiFS, you'll

00:51:42.220 --> 00:51:45.280 align:middle line:84%
get more images
than you want to.

00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:54.890 align:middle line:90%


00:51:54.890 --> 00:51:55.390 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:51:55.390 --> 00:51:56.765 align:middle line:84%
As long as the
instructor doesn't

00:51:56.765 --> 00:51:58.330 align:middle line:90%
develop Tourette's, we're OK.

00:51:58.330 --> 00:52:02.470 align:middle line:90%


00:52:02.470 --> 00:52:03.750 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:52:03.750 --> 00:52:07.550 align:middle line:84%
So I've been talking
about photosynthesis

00:52:07.550 --> 00:52:09.930 align:middle line:84%
and not really telling
you how we measure it.

00:52:09.930 --> 00:52:12.350 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] really
confused too [INAUDIBLE].

00:52:12.350 --> 00:52:13.870 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Oh, I'm sorry.

00:52:13.870 --> 00:52:17.410 align:middle line:84%
There was somebody walking by
the window of the classroom,

00:52:17.410 --> 00:52:20.750 align:middle line:90%
making random, irrational--

00:52:20.750 --> 00:52:22.150 align:middle line:90%
I think he was calling-- yeah.

00:52:22.150 --> 00:52:24.510 align:middle line:84%
Kristen thinks he
was calling his dog.

00:52:24.510 --> 00:52:25.550 align:middle line:90%
But--

00:52:25.550 --> 00:52:28.532 align:middle line:90%
[LAUGHTER]

00:52:28.532 --> 00:52:30.030 align:middle line:90%


00:52:30.030 --> 00:52:31.015 align:middle line:90%
Sorry.

00:52:31.015 --> 00:52:32.890 align:middle line:84%
It's not that I forget
you guys are up there,

00:52:32.890 --> 00:52:35.030 align:middle line:84%
but sometimes the jokes
just don't translate

00:52:35.030 --> 00:52:37.710 align:middle line:90%
through the video link.

00:52:37.710 --> 00:52:39.530 align:middle line:84%
So we've been talking
about photosynthesis,

00:52:39.530 --> 00:52:41.990 align:middle line:84%
but we haven't really
talked photosynthesis

00:52:41.990 --> 00:52:43.550 align:middle line:90%
in primary production.

00:52:43.550 --> 00:52:46.450 align:middle line:84%
But we haven't talked
about how we measure it.

00:52:46.450 --> 00:52:51.010 align:middle line:90%
And this is not a methods class.

00:52:51.010 --> 00:52:54.650 align:middle line:84%
But what we're going to find
in the next couple of lectures

00:52:54.650 --> 00:52:59.450 align:middle line:84%
is that we're going to start
defining particular processes.

00:52:59.450 --> 00:53:02.850 align:middle line:84%
And they're somewhat
operationally defined.

00:53:02.850 --> 00:53:05.610 align:middle line:84%
And so you really need to
have some understanding of how

00:53:05.610 --> 00:53:08.130 align:middle line:84%
they're measured so
that you can understand

00:53:08.130 --> 00:53:09.610 align:middle line:90%
how they're interconnected.

00:53:09.610 --> 00:53:12.850 align:middle line:84%
Because there are
classic things that sound

00:53:12.850 --> 00:53:15.370 align:middle line:84%
like they should be giving you
the same results that they're

00:53:15.370 --> 00:53:22.010 align:middle line:84%
measuring, the same broad
parts of the elephant.

00:53:22.010 --> 00:53:23.810 align:middle line:84%
The picturesque is a
group of blind people

00:53:23.810 --> 00:53:26.310 align:middle line:84%
walking around an elephant,
trying to figure out what it is.

00:53:26.310 --> 00:53:28.720 align:middle line:84%
You think you're all
measuring the tail,

00:53:28.720 --> 00:53:30.470 align:middle line:84%
but you're measuring
it in different ways.

00:53:30.470 --> 00:53:32.690 align:middle line:84%
And then you get
inconsistent results.

00:53:32.690 --> 00:53:34.690 align:middle line:84%
And the reason is
because the way

00:53:34.690 --> 00:53:36.410 align:middle line:84%
you're measuring
them is measuring

00:53:36.410 --> 00:53:39.890 align:middle line:84%
is truly actually measuring
different aspects of the system.

00:53:39.890 --> 00:53:42.170 align:middle line:84%
And so we're going to go
through some description

00:53:42.170 --> 00:53:48.670 align:middle line:84%
of primary production to give
you some broad ideas on that.

00:53:48.670 --> 00:53:52.950 align:middle line:90%
There's a few main ways.

00:53:52.950 --> 00:53:58.047 align:middle line:84%
One would be, if you remember,
photosynthesis-- oops,

00:53:58.047 --> 00:53:59.130 align:middle line:90%
writing it the wrong way--

00:53:59.130 --> 00:54:08.350 align:middle line:84%
CO2 plus water goes to
carbohydrate plus oxygen.

00:54:08.350 --> 00:54:11.150 align:middle line:90%
That was the basic equation.

00:54:11.150 --> 00:54:13.830 align:middle line:84%
So there's a couple ways
we could attack this.

00:54:13.830 --> 00:54:23.550 align:middle line:84%
We could measure the
formation of the carbohydrate.

00:54:23.550 --> 00:54:30.190 align:middle line:84%
We could measure
the loss of CO2.

00:54:30.190 --> 00:54:37.232 align:middle line:84%
Or we could measure the
production of oxygen.

00:54:37.232 --> 00:54:39.190 align:middle line:84%
We're not going to deal
with water because it's

00:54:39.190 --> 00:54:43.200 align:middle line:84%
an aquatic system, and it
would be way too hard to track

00:54:43.200 --> 00:54:45.880 align:middle line:90%
the water loss.

00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:55.040 align:middle line:84%
Or we could look at light
absorption utilization.

00:54:55.040 --> 00:55:00.960 align:middle line:84%
Because there actually is
a light term in the forward

00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:02.380 align:middle line:90%
in the forward reaction.

00:55:02.380 --> 00:55:05.120 align:middle line:90%


00:55:05.120 --> 00:55:12.640 align:middle line:84%
The initial work was done
by [? Gran ?] starting

00:55:12.640 --> 00:55:16.520 align:middle line:84%
around the end of
the First World War.

00:55:16.520 --> 00:55:23.960 align:middle line:84%
And they were doing incubations
of the change in oxygen

00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:28.300 align:middle line:84%
over time in light
and dark bottles.

00:55:28.300 --> 00:55:32.560 align:middle line:90%


00:55:32.560 --> 00:55:38.620 align:middle line:84%
So these would be incubations
that were done in a laboratory.

00:55:38.620 --> 00:55:42.400 align:middle line:90%


00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.260 align:middle line:84%
You would inoculate a certain
amount of phytoplankton.

00:55:45.260 --> 00:55:47.120 align:middle line:84%
You would then
close up the bottle.

00:55:47.120 --> 00:55:50.980 align:middle line:84%
Well, you'd inoculate
the phytoplankton,

00:55:50.980 --> 00:55:53.460 align:middle line:84%
measure the amount of oxygen
that's there at the beginning

00:55:53.460 --> 00:55:58.460 align:middle line:84%
time, close the bottle up,
either put them in the dark

00:55:58.460 --> 00:56:02.380 align:middle line:84%
or put them in the
light, and then measure

00:56:02.380 --> 00:56:08.420 align:middle line:84%
how much is there a
day later, for example.

00:56:08.420 --> 00:56:11.240 align:middle line:84%
And the limitations
on this, of course,

00:56:11.240 --> 00:56:13.940 align:middle line:84%
are that you need to have
a big enough signal so

00:56:13.940 --> 00:56:19.260 align:middle line:84%
that you can actually
measure a drawdown of oxygen.

00:56:19.260 --> 00:56:24.460 align:middle line:84%
So this was pretty good
for coastal systems,

00:56:24.460 --> 00:56:27.380 align:middle line:84%
not so good for open ocean
systems because you just didn't

00:56:27.380 --> 00:56:33.540 align:middle line:84%
have a strong enough signal
because there just wasn't enough

00:56:33.540 --> 00:56:36.660 align:middle line:90%
phytoplankton there.

00:56:36.660 --> 00:56:44.230 align:middle line:84%
Also, this was around the
time of the introduction of

00:56:44.230 --> 00:56:48.110 align:middle line:84%
or the use of the
Winkler O2 titration.

00:56:48.110 --> 00:56:51.750 align:middle line:84%
So there were fairly
good, precise ways

00:56:51.750 --> 00:56:54.890 align:middle line:84%
of measuring changes in oxygen
with the Winkler titration.

00:56:54.890 --> 00:56:58.190 align:middle line:90%


00:56:58.190 --> 00:57:00.710 align:middle line:90%
And let's see.

00:57:00.710 --> 00:57:13.390 align:middle line:84%
Nielsen in 1952 introduced the
C14 carbon fixation approach.

00:57:13.390 --> 00:57:28.790 align:middle line:84%
So this is-- you take an add
radiolabeled CO2 to your system.

00:57:28.790 --> 00:57:35.190 align:middle line:84%
That gets formed into
radiolabeled organic matter.

00:57:35.190 --> 00:57:43.090 align:middle line:84%
And you measure how
much radiolabel ends up

00:57:43.090 --> 00:57:50.850 align:middle line:90%
on particulate organic carbon.

00:57:50.850 --> 00:57:55.850 align:middle line:84%
So the idea here is, you spike
something with radiolabeled C14

00:57:55.850 --> 00:57:57.370 align:middle line:90%
inorganic.

00:57:57.370 --> 00:57:59.690 align:middle line:84%
After some period of
time, you grow them

00:57:59.690 --> 00:58:00.990 align:middle line:90%
again in dark and light.

00:58:00.990 --> 00:58:04.250 align:middle line:84%
So you can look at the
dark as your control

00:58:04.250 --> 00:58:09.050 align:middle line:84%
to see if there are any effects
due to absorption or problems

00:58:09.050 --> 00:58:11.570 align:middle line:90%
like that.

00:58:11.570 --> 00:58:14.690 align:middle line:84%
And then you would
then filter the sample

00:58:14.690 --> 00:58:17.490 align:middle line:84%
and then put it in a
scintillation counter

00:58:17.490 --> 00:58:21.182 align:middle line:84%
and count how much radioactivity
is on your particles.

00:58:21.182 --> 00:58:22.890 align:middle line:84%
And you'd have to be
very careful to make

00:58:22.890 --> 00:58:27.410 align:middle line:84%
sure you got rid of all the
seawater that's on your filter.

00:58:27.410 --> 00:58:30.210 align:middle line:84%
So you might actually
acidify your filter

00:58:30.210 --> 00:58:34.410 align:middle line:84%
to drive off any radiolabel that
ends up in your inorganic carbon

00:58:34.410 --> 00:58:34.950 align:middle line:90%
pool.

00:58:34.950 --> 00:58:39.630 align:middle line:90%


00:58:39.630 --> 00:58:44.090 align:middle line:84%
Other than the fact that-- well,
there's two issues with this.

00:58:44.090 --> 00:58:48.630 align:middle line:84%
One is, if you do this, you're
going to be in a constant battle

00:58:48.630 --> 00:58:50.470 align:middle line:84%
with people who want
to measure radiocarbon

00:58:50.470 --> 00:58:53.190 align:middle line:90%
in the natural environment.

00:58:53.190 --> 00:58:57.070 align:middle line:84%
In fact, at WHOI, because we
have a big accelerator that

00:58:57.070 --> 00:59:00.990 align:middle line:84%
measures radiocarbon at
natural abundance levels,

00:59:00.990 --> 00:59:04.750 align:middle line:84%
there's sort of an
informal ban for people

00:59:04.750 --> 00:59:06.390 align:middle line:84%
from walking from
one set of buildings

00:59:06.390 --> 00:59:07.848 align:middle line:84%
to another set of
buildings because

00:59:07.848 --> 00:59:09.790 align:middle line:90%
of cross-contamination issues.

00:59:09.790 --> 00:59:12.370 align:middle line:90%
It is actually a serious issue.

00:59:12.370 --> 00:59:15.953 align:middle line:84%
But that's more that's more
social than it is analytical.

00:59:15.953 --> 00:59:17.370 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Like
change their shoes?

00:59:17.370 --> 00:59:19.390 align:middle line:84%
SCOTT DONEY: Yeah, changing
your shoes or going home

00:59:19.390 --> 00:59:21.598 align:middle line:84%
and not coming back until
you've showered and changed

00:59:21.598 --> 00:59:22.250 align:middle line:90%
your clothes.

00:59:22.250 --> 00:59:24.950 align:middle line:90%


00:59:24.950 --> 00:59:28.150 align:middle line:84%
One problem is that
this technique typically

00:59:28.150 --> 00:59:32.990 align:middle line:84%
only measures particulate
organic carbon.

00:59:32.990 --> 00:59:36.380 align:middle line:84%
I want to go on to a
next page for this.

00:59:36.380 --> 00:59:55.280 align:middle line:90%


00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:59.920 align:middle line:90%
So you've got this 14 CO2.

00:59:59.920 --> 01:00:09.440 align:middle line:84%
It gets taken up into
14C organic matter.

01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:14.520 align:middle line:84%
Now, if you ran this
reaction instantaneously--

01:00:14.520 --> 01:00:17.400 align:middle line:84%
so if you were able
to spike the sample

01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:22.120 align:middle line:84%
and measure it a
millisecond later--

01:00:22.120 --> 01:00:25.360 align:middle line:84%
and, presumably,
everything was well mixed--

01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:27.680 align:middle line:84%
the only reaction
you'd be measuring

01:00:27.680 --> 01:00:30.440 align:middle line:90%
would be this forward reaction.

01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:35.740 align:middle line:84%
Because there would be so little
production of organic matter

01:00:35.740 --> 01:00:38.740 align:middle line:90%
that has this radiolabel.

01:00:38.740 --> 01:00:40.340 align:middle line:84%
You use high enough
values that you

01:00:40.340 --> 01:00:42.940 align:middle line:84%
don't worry about the
natural background,

01:00:42.940 --> 01:00:48.560 align:middle line:84%
that you won't have
any loss of this.

01:00:48.560 --> 01:00:53.260 align:middle line:84%
And so that would be an
instantaneous measure of.

01:00:53.260 --> 01:00:55.140 align:middle line:90%
gross primary production.

01:00:55.140 --> 01:01:01.680 align:middle line:84%
Remember, gross primary
production was photosynthesis.

01:01:01.680 --> 01:01:07.340 align:middle line:90%


01:01:07.340 --> 01:01:10.860 align:middle line:84%
Net primary production
is photosynthesis

01:01:10.860 --> 01:01:21.980 align:middle line:90%
minus autotroph respiration.

01:01:21.980 --> 01:01:26.820 align:middle line:90%


01:01:26.820 --> 01:01:29.780 align:middle line:84%
The problem comes because
of the finite duration

01:01:29.780 --> 01:01:36.030 align:middle line:90%
of the incubation.

01:01:36.030 --> 01:01:38.070 align:middle line:84%
You have to run
it long enough so

01:01:38.070 --> 01:01:41.030 align:middle line:84%
that you get a big enough
signal to actually see.

01:01:41.030 --> 01:01:43.490 align:middle line:84%
But if you start to
run it for, let's say,

01:01:43.490 --> 01:01:47.790 align:middle line:84%
24 hours or 12 hours-- those
are the two common ones,

01:01:47.790 --> 01:01:50.310 align:middle line:90%
are 12 hour--

01:01:50.310 --> 01:01:57.190 align:middle line:90%
you'll hear it as dawn to dusk--

01:01:57.190 --> 01:01:58.850 align:middle line:90%
or 24 hours.

01:01:58.850 --> 01:02:01.470 align:middle line:90%


01:02:01.470 --> 01:02:07.190 align:middle line:84%
Some of this radiolabeled
organic carbon

01:02:07.190 --> 01:02:11.030 align:middle line:84%
might have other fates than
staying in particulate.

01:02:11.030 --> 01:02:17.510 align:middle line:84%
It might start forming
radiolabeled DOC.

01:02:17.510 --> 01:02:19.470 align:middle line:84%
And typically you
only are looking

01:02:19.470 --> 01:02:24.430 align:middle line:84%
at the stuff that's
filtered onto particles, not

01:02:24.430 --> 01:02:25.910 align:middle line:90%
in the dissolve pool.

01:02:25.910 --> 01:02:27.610 align:middle line:84%
So if you're doing
this technique,

01:02:27.610 --> 01:02:32.210 align:middle line:84%
the C14 primary
production technique,

01:02:32.210 --> 01:02:35.970 align:middle line:84%
if there's a substantial
production of DOC,

01:02:35.970 --> 01:02:37.770 align:middle line:84%
you'd actually be
underestimating

01:02:37.770 --> 01:02:41.010 align:middle line:84%
your total photosynthesis
rate because you'd

01:02:41.010 --> 01:02:43.450 align:middle line:84%
be missing the
fraction that ended up

01:02:43.450 --> 01:02:46.890 align:middle line:90%
in the dissolved organic pool.

01:02:46.890 --> 01:02:50.050 align:middle line:84%
If you ran it for
long enough, you'd

01:02:50.050 --> 01:03:01.850 align:middle line:84%
actually start having
the back reaction,

01:03:01.850 --> 01:03:06.410 align:middle line:84%
where some of this organic
matter would then be respired.

01:03:06.410 --> 01:03:11.130 align:middle line:84%
And that can be a problem if you
have a lot of photorespiration,

01:03:11.130 --> 01:03:13.570 align:middle line:84%
where you're forming
organic matter

01:03:13.570 --> 01:03:16.290 align:middle line:84%
and then you're
respiring it right away.

01:03:16.290 --> 01:03:19.930 align:middle line:84%
It might not be that the whole
cell has to become radiolabeled

01:03:19.930 --> 01:03:24.490 align:middle line:84%
but that certain metabolic
pathways get radiolabeled and so

01:03:24.490 --> 01:03:27.370 align:middle line:84%
that you lose organic
matter fairly quickly.

01:03:27.370 --> 01:03:29.980 align:middle line:90%
Those are both complications.

01:03:29.980 --> 01:03:33.940 align:middle line:84%
And the C14 technique
generally, although it's

01:03:33.940 --> 01:03:44.540 align:middle line:84%
the most widely used, is
somewhere between GPP and NPP.

01:03:44.540 --> 01:03:46.960 align:middle line:90%
It's not truly NPP.

01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:48.780 align:middle line:90%
It's not truly GPP.

01:03:48.780 --> 01:03:51.900 align:middle line:84%
But it's what's most
commonly measured

01:03:51.900 --> 01:03:53.440 align:middle line:90%
and what's compared against.

01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:59.060 align:middle line:90%


01:03:59.060 --> 01:04:07.420 align:middle line:84%
When they first started doing
this about contamination--

01:04:07.420 --> 01:04:12.460 align:middle line:84%
and this is especially true
for open ocean plankton.

01:04:12.460 --> 01:04:17.500 align:middle line:84%
Open ocean plankton are used
to relatively low trace metals.

01:04:17.500 --> 01:04:20.440 align:middle line:84%
And in a lot of the
bottle incubations,

01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:21.900 align:middle line:84%
you were getting
contamination that

01:04:21.900 --> 01:04:26.580 align:middle line:84%
led to underestimates in
primary production because

01:04:26.580 --> 01:04:28.920 align:middle line:90%
of trace metal poisoning.

01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:33.840 align:middle line:84%
And so there's been a lot of
effort, back in the 1970s,

01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:39.068 align:middle line:84%
to develop trace metal clean
techniques for your C14 work.

01:04:39.068 --> 01:04:41.360 align:middle line:84%
And they think they've gotten
around most of the bottle

01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:43.280 align:middle line:90%
incubation effects.

01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:45.660 align:middle line:84%
But a lot of the
older data is suspect.

01:04:45.660 --> 01:04:56.600 align:middle line:90%


01:04:56.600 --> 01:04:57.980 align:middle line:90%
Where did I get last year?

01:04:57.980 --> 01:05:07.360 align:middle line:90%


01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:07.880 align:middle line:90%
OK.

01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:13.580 align:middle line:90%


01:05:13.580 --> 01:05:17.520 align:middle line:84%
There are a couple of other
techniques that are used.

01:05:17.520 --> 01:05:26.940 align:middle line:90%
There is an O18 technique.

01:05:26.940 --> 01:05:30.540 align:middle line:84%
And the idea there is--
remember, one of the ways

01:05:30.540 --> 01:05:32.760 align:middle line:84%
would be to look at
oxygen production.

01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:35.940 align:middle line:90%


01:05:35.940 --> 01:05:39.540 align:middle line:84%
But oxygen production has
some of the same issues.

01:05:39.540 --> 01:05:43.540 align:middle line:84%
If you run an incubation
and you're producing oxygen,

01:05:43.540 --> 01:05:48.260 align:middle line:84%
anybody who's respiring, who
has respiration, not just

01:05:48.260 --> 01:05:51.300 align:middle line:84%
the phytoplankton, but
also any heterotrophs,

01:05:51.300 --> 01:05:53.320 align:middle line:90%
are going to be reducing oxygen.

01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:56.260 align:middle line:84%
So you could have a
lot of photosynthesis

01:05:56.260 --> 01:05:59.700 align:middle line:84%
but very little growth in
oxygen in your container

01:05:59.700 --> 01:06:03.140 align:middle line:84%
because somebody else is
respiring at the same time.

01:06:03.140 --> 01:06:10.180 align:middle line:84%
But if you spike the water
and do this in heavy water

01:06:10.180 --> 01:06:19.580 align:middle line:84%
and then measure the
O18-O16 ratio in the oxygen,

01:06:19.580 --> 01:06:24.190 align:middle line:84%
you can really get at
just the forward reaction.

01:06:24.190 --> 01:06:26.110 align:middle line:84%
And the reason why it's
the forward reaction

01:06:26.110 --> 01:06:30.710 align:middle line:84%
is, so little of your
water is being used up

01:06:30.710 --> 01:06:36.390 align:middle line:84%
that there's really
little effect.

01:06:36.390 --> 01:06:38.110 align:middle line:84%
Very little of the
water's used up.

01:06:38.110 --> 01:06:40.190 align:middle line:84%
Very little of the
oxygen is changed

01:06:40.190 --> 01:06:43.070 align:middle line:84%
because you have a lot
of oxygen, typically,

01:06:43.070 --> 01:06:46.190 align:middle line:90%
in the container.

01:06:46.190 --> 01:06:48.670 align:middle line:84%
And so you can't
really affect or back

01:06:48.670 --> 01:06:53.830 align:middle line:84%
affect the reaction
of your 18 oxygen

01:06:53.830 --> 01:06:56.030 align:middle line:90%
if you use a big enough spike.

01:06:56.030 --> 01:07:00.190 align:middle line:84%
And so this O18 spiking
incubation really

01:07:00.190 --> 01:07:03.190 align:middle line:84%
is probably one of
our best measures

01:07:03.190 --> 01:07:05.550 align:middle line:90%
of gross primary production.

01:07:05.550 --> 01:07:08.370 align:middle line:90%
It's not commonly done.

01:07:08.370 --> 01:07:10.590 align:middle line:90%
It's done a handful of times.

01:07:10.590 --> 01:07:18.510 align:middle line:84%
Probably for every 100 cruises
with C14, somebody does O18.

01:07:18.510 --> 01:07:20.590 align:middle line:84%
But it does give some
idea where then you

01:07:20.590 --> 01:07:35.730 align:middle line:84%
can go and look at the
correction for GPP to C14 NPP.

01:07:35.730 --> 01:07:38.170 align:middle line:84%
So you could make a
correction for what

01:07:38.170 --> 01:07:40.170 align:middle line:84%
the true gross
primary production is

01:07:40.170 --> 01:07:44.292 align:middle line:84%
relative to the C14 measurements
that are being made.

01:07:44.292 --> 01:07:46.250 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: That's just
because it's a lot harder

01:07:46.250 --> 01:07:47.850 align:middle line:90%
to do that technique than the--

01:07:47.850 --> 01:07:50.330 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Yeah.

01:07:50.330 --> 01:07:53.330 align:middle line:84%
The C14, you can do by
scintillation counter.

01:07:53.330 --> 01:07:57.170 align:middle line:84%
This, first off, you're
dealing with gases.

01:07:57.170 --> 01:08:00.930 align:middle line:84%
So before, you're just filtering
water and putting particles

01:08:00.930 --> 01:08:02.650 align:middle line:90%
onto filters.

01:08:02.650 --> 01:08:05.690 align:middle line:84%
Here, you actually need to do
it in a gas-tight system, where

01:08:05.690 --> 01:08:08.210 align:middle line:84%
you can keep track of
that you're not having gas

01:08:08.210 --> 01:08:10.970 align:middle line:90%
exchange during the experiment.

01:08:10.970 --> 01:08:15.290 align:middle line:84%
Then you need to run this
on a gas-proportional mass

01:08:15.290 --> 01:08:16.890 align:middle line:90%
spectrometer.

01:08:16.890 --> 01:08:19.990 align:middle line:84%
They're not nearly as common
as scintillation counters.

01:08:19.990 --> 01:08:22.300 align:middle line:90%
It's just it's a lot more work.

01:08:22.300 --> 01:08:24.399 align:middle line:90%
Also, and this is expensive.

01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:27.540 align:middle line:90%


01:08:27.540 --> 01:08:32.540 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Just to make sure
here, the reason this works

01:08:32.540 --> 01:08:34.700 align:middle line:84%
is because the
oxygen from the water

01:08:34.700 --> 01:08:40.620 align:middle line:84%
goes into oxygen gas rather
than the organic matter.

01:08:40.620 --> 01:08:43.800 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Right.

01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:47.420 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: I Just wanted to--

01:08:47.420 --> 01:08:49.952 align:middle line:84%
it's something we were
questioning during generals.

01:08:49.952 --> 01:08:50.660 align:middle line:90%
SCOTT DONEY: Yes.

01:08:50.660 --> 01:08:56.180 align:middle line:84%
In photosynthesis, one
of the oxygens in O2

01:08:56.180 --> 01:08:58.220 align:middle line:90%
is coming from water.

01:08:58.220 --> 01:09:06.620 align:middle line:84%
Remember, CO2 plus water
goes to CH2O plus O2.

01:09:06.620 --> 01:09:09.080 align:middle line:90%
So it's that.

01:09:09.080 --> 01:09:15.180 align:middle line:90%


01:09:15.180 --> 01:09:23.240 align:middle line:84%
There have been
a lot of advances

01:09:23.240 --> 01:09:28.439 align:middle line:84%
in making DIC measurements
and also oxygen measurements.

01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:30.640 align:middle line:84%
So people are starting
to do a lot more

01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:38.680 align:middle line:84%
computer-controlled titrations
of the changes in DIC

01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:39.800 align:middle line:90%
and oxygen.

01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:42.020 align:middle line:84%
So unlike [? Gran's ?]
original experiments,

01:09:42.020 --> 01:09:46.040 align:middle line:84%
where there just wasn't enough
signal for him to measure,

01:09:46.040 --> 01:09:54.440 align:middle line:84%
people can start to look
at diurnal changes in DIC

01:09:54.440 --> 01:10:01.460 align:middle line:84%
and oxygen, both in
incubations and in the field.

01:10:01.460 --> 01:10:05.120 align:middle line:90%


01:10:05.120 --> 01:10:07.880 align:middle line:84%
And gas exchange really
isn't fast enough

01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:11.960 align:middle line:84%
to equilibrate the water
on diurnal timescales.

01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:16.440 align:middle line:84%
So the diurnal drawdown if you
looked at the diurnal cycle

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in the water-- let's say
DIC was high in the morning,

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low and then high and then low.

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That would give you a pretty
good estimate for photosynthesis

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because you could
back out and say

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what respiration was at night.

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And so people have been trying
to do that from the field

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to get away from doing
bottle incubations,

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where anytime you collect an
organism from the water column,

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there's a chance that
you're going to screw it up

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and you're going to
perturb the system.

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And then finally,
we're not going

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to go into a lot of the
details for the bio-optics.

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But the basic idea for the
bio-optics is as follows.

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You have photons coming in.

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So this would be a photon.

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There's lots of different
pathways that photon can take.

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It can heat the water.

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It can be absorbed by detrital
junk, that [INAUDIBLE] stuff.

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But some of them are actually
going to hit a phytoplankton

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and be absorbed.

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And if you knew how
much was absorbed

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and then what the fate of
that absorbed light is--

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so that can go several pathways.

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So the absorbed photon,
it could go to heat.

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You could just start
cooking your phytoplankton.

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Some of it could be fluoresced--

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that's not spelled right.

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That's supposed to be
fluorescence, basically

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readmitted at a
different wavelength.

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Remember, chlorophyll absorbs
in the blue, emits in the red.

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Or it could be going to chemical
energy for photosynthesis.

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So if you were able to
understand and compute

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how many of the photons
are actually being absorbed

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by phytoplankton and then able
to partition how much of those

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absorbed photons are going
into these different pathways,

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you would be able to
then say something

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about how much
photosynthesis rates are,

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which is this right here.

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Now, one of the really clever
techniques that's been invented

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is it's sometimes
called pump and probe

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or variable fluorescence,
variable fluorescence.

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Basically, it's the idea that--

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let's say you have your
chlorophyll antennas.

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At any one particular
time, many of these antenna

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are open at the reaction sites.

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And so a photon comes in.

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And some of it's going to get
dissipated by heat because it's

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just a dissipative system.

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Some of it's going to
go to chemical energy.

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But if you added enough
light to the phytoplankton,

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you would actually fill up
all the reaction centers.

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So let's say you're
measuring your phytoplankton.

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And then you start
giving it enough light

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so that you very quickly,
on short time scales,

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you fill up all the
reaction centers

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so that none of the
reaction centers are open.

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They all have just
received a photon.

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They can't receive
another photon.

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They can't accept another photon
for a certain amount of time

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because it takes a certain
amount of time for the reaction

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centers to process that
photon and reset themselves.

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If you looked at the
change in fluorescence

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before and after you've closed
all the reaction antenna,

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that would give you an idea of
how many antenna were actually

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open and ready to
accept a photon.

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Because before you've done
this-- let's say some of them

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are going to heat, and some of
them are going to fluorescence,

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and some of them are
going to photosynthesis.

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But after you fill
the reaction centers,

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the argument is,
well, the same amount

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is going to be going to heat.

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You're then going to have
this huge amount going

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to fluorescence because there's
no other pathway for them to go.

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And you'd have zero
going to photosynthesis.

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And by that pathway,
you can then

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back out what the
photosynthesis rate would

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have been before because you
now know how many reaction

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centers were absorbing light.

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So it's pretty clever.

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It's just being developed
over the last 10 or 15 years.

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And it nicely
complements the C14 work.

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Because instead of focusing
on the organic products,

01:16:25.250 --> 01:16:30.110 align:middle line:90%
you're now looking at the light.

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I just wanted to show
this, if I can fit it

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on here, this last figure.

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Oops.

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And then we'll wrap
it up for the day.

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This is a summary
plot out of this book

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I was showing earlier
for primary production

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from the seven US JGOFS process
studies and time series sites.

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And so it's primary production--
or photosynthesis, if you like--

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in millimoles carbon per
meter squared per day.

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This is measured by
C14 in all cases.

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These are different
environments.

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And the values range from--
down about the triangles

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are the means.

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The circles are the maximums.

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And then there are standard
statistical ranges.

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Typical primary
production values

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are somewhere between, say,
20 and 30 millimoles carbon

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per meter squared per day, with
peak values during, say, bloom

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seasons as high as 100 to 150.

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And so that gives you a
scaling for what to expect.

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Great.

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So what we'll do is,
we'll start talking

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about export production and new
production and net community

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production on Thursday.