1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,440 [SQUEAKING] 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,392 [RUSTLING] 3 00:00:04,392 --> 00:00:06,344 [CLICKING] 4 00:00:10,495 --> 00:00:11,620 FRANK SCHILBACH: All right. 5 00:00:11,620 --> 00:00:15,360 Welcome, everyone, to lecture 13 of 14.13. 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,210 This is my last lecture on social preferences. 7 00:00:18,210 --> 00:00:21,870 I hope all of you are doing fine remotely. 8 00:00:21,870 --> 00:00:22,510 Hang in there. 9 00:00:22,510 --> 00:00:24,660 I know this is a very difficult time. 10 00:00:24,660 --> 00:00:27,090 This lecture is a bit of a more uplifting lecture 11 00:00:27,090 --> 00:00:28,620 than the previous ones. 12 00:00:28,620 --> 00:00:31,140 While the previous ones have looked at social preferences, 13 00:00:31,140 --> 00:00:33,450 how we can measure social preferences, 14 00:00:33,450 --> 00:00:37,200 and how can we perhaps isolate pure altruism-- 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,490 do people really want others to be better for their own sake, 16 00:00:41,490 --> 00:00:46,350 even if nobody knows about it, either others or whether 17 00:00:46,350 --> 00:00:48,360 there's no feedback-- 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,990 we sort of found out that like it seems like what looks a lot 19 00:00:51,990 --> 00:00:54,690 like altruism-- people are nice to each other-- 20 00:00:54,690 --> 00:00:56,760 is not pure altruism in the sense 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,700 that like they really want others to do well. 22 00:00:59,700 --> 00:01:04,379 Instead, they want to either look good in front of others, 23 00:01:04,379 --> 00:01:06,810 or they're worried about reciprocity or sort 24 00:01:06,810 --> 00:01:09,480 of any other negative feedback from others, 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,050 or it might be they might want to protect their self-image. 26 00:01:13,050 --> 00:01:15,270 They want to look good in front of themselves 27 00:01:15,270 --> 00:01:18,960 and they try to figure out ways to deceive themselves 28 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:19,710 that they're nice. 29 00:01:19,710 --> 00:01:21,990 And given the opportunity to not be nice, 30 00:01:21,990 --> 00:01:24,480 people actually seem to be not as 31 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,330 nice as one might think from pure dictator games 32 00:01:27,330 --> 00:01:30,270 or ultimatum games that we observe. 33 00:01:30,270 --> 00:01:33,090 This lecture is a bit more uplifting in the sense 34 00:01:33,090 --> 00:01:38,040 that it talks about field evidence on social preferences, 35 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,440 and in particular you can ask the question 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:46,890 about can policies increase pro-sociology in certain ways. 37 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:51,275 We're going to talk about three broad sets of studies. 38 00:01:51,275 --> 00:01:53,400 First, we're going to talk about social preferences 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,630 at the workplace. 40 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:57,990 I'm going to talk about the impact of relative pay 41 00:01:57,990 --> 00:01:58,712 on productivity. 42 00:01:58,712 --> 00:02:00,420 We talked about this last time at the end 43 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:01,920 of the lecture a little bit, but I'm 44 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,190 going to just restart from scratch to sort of explain 45 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:06,270 that a little bit better. 46 00:02:06,270 --> 00:02:08,280 Then we're going to talk about the morale 47 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,020 effects of pay inequality. 48 00:02:10,020 --> 00:02:12,090 What happens to worker inequality 49 00:02:12,090 --> 00:02:17,657 when people are paid unequally, and is that a good idea? 50 00:02:17,657 --> 00:02:19,740 There's also a very nice paper in ethnic divisions 51 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:21,940 and production in firms. 52 00:02:21,940 --> 00:02:25,620 We're going to talk about this a little bit in recitation. 53 00:02:25,620 --> 00:02:29,430 Number two-- we're going to talk about whether policies 54 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:32,265 can induce pro-sociality. 55 00:02:32,265 --> 00:02:34,140 In particular we're going to focus on mixing. 56 00:02:34,140 --> 00:02:36,990 This is sort of called the contact hypothesis. 57 00:02:36,990 --> 00:02:39,360 When you mix people from different backgrounds, 58 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,500 do they become nicer to each other in various ways? 59 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:45,810 You'll discuss a very nice paper by Gautam Rao 60 00:02:45,810 --> 00:02:49,210 when mixing rich and poor children in school. 61 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:52,980 And I talk very briefly about mixing cricket players in India 62 00:02:52,980 --> 00:02:57,630 to reduce tensions across castes or make people 63 00:02:57,630 --> 00:03:00,680 from different castes perhaps more prosocial to each other. 64 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,430 And then I'm going to also briefly mention 65 00:03:02,430 --> 00:03:06,700 a study on mixing roommates in college by Corno et al. 66 00:03:06,700 --> 00:03:08,370 Finally, we're going to talk about 67 00:03:08,370 --> 00:03:10,950 whether people perhaps underestimate 68 00:03:10,950 --> 00:03:12,840 the benefits of prosociality. 69 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,340 In particular, I'm going to show you 70 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:17,880 a study on people undervaluing gratitude. 71 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,150 So when people write letters of gratitude, 72 00:03:21,150 --> 00:03:23,430 do they understand how others might react, 73 00:03:23,430 --> 00:03:28,000 and is there perhaps some evidence that people are not 74 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,430 prosocial enough because they misunderstand the effects 75 00:03:32,430 --> 00:03:34,920 that that might have on others? 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:41,880 OK, so let me start with social preferences at the workplace. 77 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,880 So Bandiera et al. is a very nice study 78 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,030 that looks at the impact of relative pay on productivity. 79 00:03:48,030 --> 00:03:51,230 This is field evidence from the fruit farm in the UK. 80 00:03:51,230 --> 00:03:53,240 It's literally field evidence because it's 81 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,840 from fruit-picking farms from fruit fields. 82 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,060 The study looks at two types of payment schemes. 83 00:04:00,060 --> 00:04:01,700 These are piece rates-- 84 00:04:01,700 --> 00:04:04,550 workers are paid per unit of output. 85 00:04:04,550 --> 00:04:06,650 And the second scheme is relative pay-- workers 86 00:04:06,650 --> 00:04:09,200 are paid relative to others. 87 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,140 We might think that relative pay is a good way 88 00:04:12,140 --> 00:04:15,020 to incentivize workers because you want to do better 89 00:04:15,020 --> 00:04:19,820 than your neighbor, and there's a computation of who does best. 90 00:04:19,820 --> 00:04:21,583 And in principle, it could be that that, 91 00:04:21,583 --> 00:04:23,750 really, if you only care about yourself, that really 92 00:04:23,750 --> 00:04:26,480 gets people to work very hard. 93 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,070 Now, what Bandiera et al. look at 94 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:31,940 is, how does the introduction of relative pay 95 00:04:31,940 --> 00:04:34,940 affect workers' effort and output? 96 00:04:34,940 --> 00:04:39,770 Now, one thing to notice is that while relative incentives might 97 00:04:39,770 --> 00:04:43,190 be good because you might induce people to want to be better 98 00:04:43,190 --> 00:04:46,460 than their neighbors or their co-workers, 99 00:04:46,460 --> 00:04:51,300 there's also a negative externality of relative pay. 100 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:53,870 That is the idea that increasing your own pay 101 00:04:53,870 --> 00:04:56,235 comes at the costs of others pay. 102 00:04:56,235 --> 00:04:57,860 That is to say, if there's relative pay 103 00:04:57,860 --> 00:05:00,140 and I work really hard, I'm paid how 104 00:05:00,140 --> 00:05:03,515 I do relative to my friends or others that I'm working with. 105 00:05:03,515 --> 00:05:06,140 Well, if I'm working really hard and do better than my friends, 106 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:07,430 I'm going to be paid more. 107 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:11,060 But at the same time, for any effort that I put in, 108 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:13,580 my friends are going to be paid less. 109 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:19,370 And so workers anticipating these impacts on others 110 00:05:19,370 --> 00:05:22,105 might reduce their effort if they care about others. 111 00:05:22,105 --> 00:05:24,230 If I'm really worried about if there's relative pay 112 00:05:24,230 --> 00:05:26,750 and I work really hard, my friends are going to look bad. 113 00:05:26,750 --> 00:05:30,350 They're going to be relatively unproductive, 114 00:05:30,350 --> 00:05:33,740 and I worry that they might not be paid enough. 115 00:05:33,740 --> 00:05:37,250 Then I might reduce my effort. 116 00:05:37,250 --> 00:05:38,940 And then everybody might do that, 117 00:05:38,940 --> 00:05:40,940 and then the introduction of relative pay 118 00:05:40,940 --> 00:05:43,220 or the relative pay schemes might actually not 119 00:05:43,220 --> 00:05:48,290 be particularly effective or an effective way of incentivizing 120 00:05:48,290 --> 00:05:49,980 and motivating workers. 121 00:05:49,980 --> 00:05:53,210 So there's sort of this tension that relative pay in principle 122 00:05:53,210 --> 00:05:54,180 could work quite well. 123 00:05:54,180 --> 00:05:56,960 But if people really care a lot about others, 124 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,250 then it might not work at all. 125 00:05:58,250 --> 00:06:00,800 It might actually backfire in some ways. 126 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,150 Notice that it could be either that people care about others 127 00:06:05,150 --> 00:06:08,120 for their own sake in the sense that you might care 128 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,870 about them because you want them to have high earnings, 129 00:06:11,870 --> 00:06:14,360 or you might care about others' earnings, 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,395 not because you actually care about the outcomes per se, 131 00:06:17,395 --> 00:06:18,770 but rather because you're worried 132 00:06:18,770 --> 00:06:20,570 about negative repercussions. 133 00:06:20,570 --> 00:06:22,700 If these are your friends and you work really hard, 134 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:25,190 well, at nights, your friends might really not be happy, 135 00:06:25,190 --> 00:06:28,160 and there might be retribution against you socially 136 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,260 or in some other ways if you work too hard, if you caused 137 00:06:31,260 --> 00:06:35,020 them their earnings to go down. 138 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:37,270 OK, so now, what does this paper do? 139 00:06:37,270 --> 00:06:39,610 It looks at how does switching to piece rates 140 00:06:39,610 --> 00:06:42,370 affect people's productivity? 141 00:06:42,370 --> 00:06:46,210 So the study has personnel data from a food farm in the UK. 142 00:06:46,210 --> 00:06:49,720 They measure productivity as a function of their compensation 143 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,130 scheme. 144 00:06:51,130 --> 00:06:53,500 This is a quasi-field experiment. 145 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:55,480 The timeline is as follows. 146 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,750 For the first eight weeks of the 2002 picking season, 147 00:06:58,750 --> 00:07:02,830 fruit pickers were compensated on a relative performance 148 00:07:02,830 --> 00:07:03,520 scheme. 149 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:09,010 So the per fruit piece rate is decreasing 150 00:07:09,010 --> 00:07:11,290 in average productivity. 151 00:07:11,290 --> 00:07:13,060 So if everybody works really hard 152 00:07:13,060 --> 00:07:15,490 and I don't, if I'm relatively bad compared to others, 153 00:07:15,490 --> 00:07:19,420 I get less than others. 154 00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:21,220 This is an incentive, as I discussed, 155 00:07:21,220 --> 00:07:25,390 to keep the productivity low if you care about others. 156 00:07:25,390 --> 00:07:27,070 And then in the next eight weeks, 157 00:07:27,070 --> 00:07:30,555 compensation will switch to a flat piece rate per fruit. 158 00:07:30,555 --> 00:07:31,930 So that's essentially just you're 159 00:07:31,930 --> 00:07:34,750 paid by however how much you produce, 160 00:07:34,750 --> 00:07:38,020 how many kilograms of fruit you collect. 161 00:07:38,020 --> 00:07:43,570 And the payment is entirely disjoint or independent of what 162 00:07:43,570 --> 00:07:44,390 other people do. 163 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:47,140 That's a classic piece rate payment. 164 00:07:47,140 --> 00:07:49,810 So the externalities are entirely shut down. 165 00:07:49,810 --> 00:07:53,150 If I work really hard, I'm going to be paid. 166 00:07:53,150 --> 00:07:57,160 There's no effect whatsoever on my fellow workers. 167 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,170 The switch was announced on the day the change took place, 168 00:08:00,170 --> 00:08:01,937 so it came as a surprise to workers. 169 00:08:01,937 --> 00:08:03,520 So we should not be worried about sort 170 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,740 of pre-trends or productivity going up over time anyway. 171 00:08:08,740 --> 00:08:11,170 Now, what the paper finds is a dramatic increase 172 00:08:11,170 --> 00:08:14,620 in productivity with the introduction of piece rates. 173 00:08:14,620 --> 00:08:17,530 That is to say what you see here in the figure 174 00:08:17,530 --> 00:08:20,528 is the average worker productivity for two 175 00:08:20,528 --> 00:08:22,070 of the fields-- so that's essentially 176 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:24,250 like broad, big fields where people work on, 177 00:08:24,250 --> 00:08:25,780 and I'm showing you the data for two 178 00:08:25,780 --> 00:08:28,690 of those fields, for which, essentially, on most days, 179 00:08:28,690 --> 00:08:31,720 there was actually production workers were picking fruit. 180 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:37,090 What you see on the left side of the graph is when people were 181 00:08:37,090 --> 00:08:42,159 working under relative pay, there you see, essentially, 182 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:44,169 relatively flat productivity. 183 00:08:44,169 --> 00:08:48,850 People picked about 5 kilograms per hour. 184 00:08:48,850 --> 00:08:51,740 There doesn't seem to be any trend upwards over time. 185 00:08:51,740 --> 00:08:53,830 So before the new policy was introduced, 186 00:08:53,830 --> 00:08:57,400 essentially, workers were producing or picking 187 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,160 their fruit at a relatively constant rate over time, 188 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,010 about 5 kilograms per hour. 189 00:09:03,010 --> 00:09:05,260 There was no trends, as I said. 190 00:09:05,260 --> 00:09:09,850 Now, you see the vertical line in the middle. 191 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:13,480 This is when piece rates were, in fact, introduced. 192 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,260 So there was no relative pay anymore, 193 00:09:15,260 --> 00:09:17,680 and now people were paid by piece rate. 194 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,330 And that increased productivity by over 50%. 195 00:09:20,330 --> 00:09:24,310 So workers became a lot more productive after that. 196 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:27,070 That's true for both of those fields. 197 00:09:27,070 --> 00:09:29,830 It is not the case that the average payment 198 00:09:29,830 --> 00:09:35,050 per unit of output per kilogram of fruit paid was actually 199 00:09:35,050 --> 00:09:36,100 was going up. 200 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:38,350 So you might say, well, if the piece rate was actually 201 00:09:38,350 --> 00:09:42,400 higher under the piece rate payments 202 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,250 on the right side of the screen, of the graph, 203 00:09:45,250 --> 00:09:47,440 then maybe workers would just be more productive. 204 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,355 But in fact, if you look at the piece rate 205 00:09:49,355 --> 00:09:50,980 over time, if anything, the piece rates 206 00:09:50,980 --> 00:09:54,880 actually went down over time what the company was paying. 207 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,610 So that is to say, the introduction 208 00:09:57,610 --> 00:10:01,480 of those piece rates, the productivity effect 209 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,340 is not explained by workers being 210 00:10:03,340 --> 00:10:06,010 paid more per unit of output. 211 00:10:06,010 --> 00:10:08,050 Instead it seems to be really coming 212 00:10:08,050 --> 00:10:10,780 from the different incentives people workers have 213 00:10:10,780 --> 00:10:13,570 when it comes to how their productivity affects 214 00:10:13,570 --> 00:10:16,510 their fellow workers on the field. 215 00:10:16,510 --> 00:10:19,360 Now, you might have two potential explanations 216 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,550 here for this evidence. 217 00:10:21,550 --> 00:10:23,260 One is social preferences. 218 00:10:23,260 --> 00:10:26,740 So you might work less to help others 219 00:10:26,740 --> 00:10:35,290 under relative incentives, even less when your friends benefit. 220 00:10:35,290 --> 00:10:38,340 You have many friends on a certain field 221 00:10:38,340 --> 00:10:39,600 that work with you. 222 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,150 Well, then you might be particularly inclined 223 00:10:42,150 --> 00:10:48,220 to not work very hard because you care a lot more for them. 224 00:10:48,220 --> 00:10:50,778 And this is exactly what they find in this paper. 225 00:10:50,778 --> 00:10:52,320 These effects are stronger when there 226 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,520 are more friends on the field for a particular worker. 227 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,400 Second, however, it's also like a repeated game. 228 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,180 That is to say, there's a low effort equilibrium, 229 00:11:03,180 --> 00:11:04,980 where, essentially, if there relative pay, 230 00:11:04,980 --> 00:11:07,590 we can just all agree everybody on the field 231 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:10,800 might agree that not working particularly hard 232 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,710 is a good idea because we are essentially 233 00:11:13,710 --> 00:11:15,270 paid relatively anyway. 234 00:11:15,270 --> 00:11:20,130 So if everybody doubles their effort, 235 00:11:20,130 --> 00:11:23,082 nothing is going to happen to a worker's compensation. 236 00:11:23,082 --> 00:11:25,290 So you might as well just decide everybody could just 237 00:11:25,290 --> 00:11:27,540 decide work half as hard, and you're 238 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:28,680 going to be paid the same. 239 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:32,760 And as long as we can sustain that equilibrium, 240 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,870 that's a good idea. 241 00:11:33,870 --> 00:11:38,490 Of course, in any given period, any given worker 242 00:11:38,490 --> 00:11:41,597 might have the incentive to deviate from this equilibrium 243 00:11:41,597 --> 00:11:43,680 because on any given day, if you work really hard, 244 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:47,230 you're going to be paid a lot more for that day. 245 00:11:47,230 --> 00:11:50,820 And so how might we be able to disentangle that? 246 00:11:50,820 --> 00:11:52,410 Well, what Bandiera et al. 247 00:11:52,410 --> 00:11:54,870 have is they have also some variation in the types 248 00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:57,910 of fruits that were collected. 249 00:11:57,910 --> 00:11:59,320 What do I mean by that? 250 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,140 Well, if you think about what you 251 00:12:01,140 --> 00:12:04,770 need to be able to disentangle these, what you might want 252 00:12:04,770 --> 00:12:09,470 to have is differences in the observability of effort, right? 253 00:12:09,470 --> 00:12:11,980 So if I can see what my co-worker does, 254 00:12:11,980 --> 00:12:13,950 I can punish them very effectively. 255 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:17,460 I can just know whenever Frank is working really hard, 256 00:12:17,460 --> 00:12:20,717 my co-workers might want to punish me. 257 00:12:20,717 --> 00:12:22,800 And then it's very hard for me to work really hard 258 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,110 because I'm getting in trouble at nights 259 00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:27,810 after work with my co-workers. 260 00:12:27,810 --> 00:12:30,240 Or in the next day, everybody might also work really hard, 261 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,460 and I don't want that. 262 00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:35,040 On the other hand, if I can hide how hard I'm working, 263 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,370 well then, I might secretly work really hard, 264 00:12:38,370 --> 00:12:40,980 and my co-workers might not even find out. 265 00:12:40,980 --> 00:12:47,250 So then, if that's the case, in the repeated game equilibrium 266 00:12:47,250 --> 00:12:49,787 might just not be enforceable, as in I might just 267 00:12:49,787 --> 00:12:51,870 tell my friends, oh, I wasn't really working hard. 268 00:12:51,870 --> 00:12:53,010 But in fact, I was. 269 00:12:53,010 --> 00:12:58,590 And they have no way of finding out because I was unobservable. 270 00:12:58,590 --> 00:13:00,720 If, instead, I really care about them, 271 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,740 if I'm really interested in their well-being 272 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:06,600 overall and their payment, it doesn't 273 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,730 matter whether my effort is observable. 274 00:13:08,730 --> 00:13:10,860 Regardless of how observable my effort is, 275 00:13:10,860 --> 00:13:13,440 I will not work very hard because not working 276 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,430 hard makes them better off. 277 00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:18,420 So if you just had some differences in observability 278 00:13:18,420 --> 00:13:21,165 in effort, how hard people work, we 279 00:13:21,165 --> 00:13:25,260 could just disentangle these two explanations. 280 00:13:25,260 --> 00:13:27,435 So Bandiera et al. have this very nice variation. 281 00:13:27,435 --> 00:13:29,760 They have two fruits there, fruit type 282 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,770 1, which are strawberries, and they 283 00:13:31,770 --> 00:13:34,620 have fruit of type 2, which are raspberries. 284 00:13:34,620 --> 00:13:36,870 If you ever have picked strawberries, 285 00:13:36,870 --> 00:13:39,270 you would know that strawberries is very easy. 286 00:13:39,270 --> 00:13:43,800 These are essentially very flat and low fruit 287 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,810 that when somebody picks strawberries, 288 00:13:45,810 --> 00:13:48,330 it's very easy to see how fast somebody works, 289 00:13:48,330 --> 00:13:51,300 how much anybody picks and so on because you can just 290 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:52,650 see across the entire field. 291 00:13:52,650 --> 00:13:56,010 You can see essentially what all of your coworkers are doing. 292 00:13:56,010 --> 00:14:00,930 In contrast, if you look at raspberries, these are bushes. 293 00:14:00,930 --> 00:14:04,860 So you can essentially literally hide behind the bushes and work 294 00:14:04,860 --> 00:14:08,250 really hard to pick really hard and fast 295 00:14:08,250 --> 00:14:09,870 without others noticing. 296 00:14:09,870 --> 00:14:13,440 So essentially, productivity is at least more unobserved 297 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,780 than for strawberries. 298 00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:17,380 Now, what Bandiera et al. then find, 299 00:14:17,380 --> 00:14:21,750 in fact, is no impact of the piece rate on fruits of type 2, 300 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:23,770 which is raspberries. 301 00:14:23,770 --> 00:14:27,960 So that suggests there is no evidence of pure altruism, 302 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,340 and the effects, perhaps, could be driven by reciprocity. 303 00:14:32,340 --> 00:14:34,980 This is consistent with what we had found before. 304 00:14:34,980 --> 00:14:37,260 When you remember the dictator ultimatum games 305 00:14:37,260 --> 00:14:40,740 that we showed you, it looked a lot like people are altruistic. 306 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:42,060 They care about others. 307 00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:44,820 But when you look at their actual motives, 308 00:14:44,820 --> 00:14:46,830 when you dig a little deeper, we find out that, 309 00:14:46,830 --> 00:14:50,640 in fact, this is driven by reciprocity, or by worries 310 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,940 about repeated game effects, or worries about essentially 311 00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:57,450 just retribution, either on the field that other people will 312 00:14:57,450 --> 00:14:59,790 work also really hard if I work really hard right 313 00:14:59,790 --> 00:15:03,360 now, or socially after work, my coworkers 314 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,635 might be really mean to me. 315 00:15:04,635 --> 00:15:06,510 They might even beat me up, or they might not 316 00:15:06,510 --> 00:15:10,260 be my friends anymore. 317 00:15:10,260 --> 00:15:12,840 Here is regression tables that show you this. 318 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,350 The first column, you see fruit type 2. 319 00:15:16,350 --> 00:15:17,820 Again, these are the raspberries. 320 00:15:17,820 --> 00:15:20,700 This is when things are unobserved. 321 00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:23,130 There's no effective introducing the piece rate. 322 00:15:23,130 --> 00:15:27,120 In contrast, if you look at column 2, this is fruit type 1. 323 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,850 These are strawberries, and there's large productivity 324 00:15:29,850 --> 00:15:33,600 effects of strawberries there. 325 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,120 So these results, again, highlight the importance 326 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,060 of setting the incentives carefully. 327 00:15:39,060 --> 00:15:40,800 Small details matter, and you really 328 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,660 want to be very careful in how you 329 00:15:42,660 --> 00:15:45,720 said relative incentives that in principle seemed 330 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,520 like a good idea because they provide 331 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,900 steep incentives to workers, but in practice might actually not 332 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:54,300 work particularly well. 333 00:15:57,490 --> 00:15:59,530 OK, so the second paper we're going to look at 334 00:15:59,530 --> 00:16:00,370 is Breza et al. 335 00:16:00,370 --> 00:16:03,190 These are the morale effects of pay inequality. 336 00:16:03,190 --> 00:16:06,790 This is a very nice randomized field experiment in rural India 337 00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:09,520 with low-skill manufacturing workers. 338 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,700 The question the authors ask is do workers 339 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:14,920 care about relative pay? 340 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,720 And perhaps why do we see so little variation in pay 341 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:20,440 across settings? 342 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,350 So what we often see in many companies in India, 343 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:27,940 but also in other places, also in certain villages in India, 344 00:16:27,940 --> 00:16:31,070 what we see is wages tend to be very compressed. 345 00:16:31,070 --> 00:16:34,480 So workers essentially earn the exact same wage, 346 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,650 regardless of their underlying productivity, experience, 347 00:16:38,650 --> 00:16:39,520 and so on. 348 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,000 Good and bad workers tend to earn 349 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,140 exactly the same amount of money for per day 350 00:16:47,140 --> 00:16:49,270 or per hour and the like. 351 00:16:49,270 --> 00:16:50,890 Economists think that's inefficient 352 00:16:50,890 --> 00:16:52,450 because if you want to hire somebody 353 00:16:52,450 --> 00:16:53,950 who's really, really productive, you 354 00:16:53,950 --> 00:16:55,930 might want to pay them more. 355 00:16:55,930 --> 00:16:58,330 If you want to hire somebody who is not that productive, 356 00:16:58,330 --> 00:16:59,670 you might want to pay them less. 357 00:16:59,670 --> 00:17:02,170 You might actually want to pay them less than the prevailing 358 00:17:02,170 --> 00:17:04,270 wage, but you might not be able to do 359 00:17:04,270 --> 00:17:07,970 so because the norm is that you have to pay them the prevailing 360 00:17:07,970 --> 00:17:08,470 wage. 361 00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:10,960 And then you might end up not hiring that person, 362 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,329 and that person might end up being unemployed, 363 00:17:13,329 --> 00:17:16,599 even though you would be very happy to pay them 364 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:18,280 at a lower wage. 365 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,780 This is a really relevant question. 366 00:17:20,780 --> 00:17:22,569 Sorry, the second question the authors ask 367 00:17:22,569 --> 00:17:26,260 is what is the notion of the underlying notion of fairness? 368 00:17:26,260 --> 00:17:28,900 What is fair and what's not fair? 369 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:32,860 As in if there is wage dispersion across workers 370 00:17:32,860 --> 00:17:37,060 within teams or within a certain firm, under some circumstances 371 00:17:37,060 --> 00:17:38,385 under which that's OK to do? 372 00:17:38,385 --> 00:17:39,760 Are there some good justification 373 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:47,380 that workers are OK with, or is it just always bad to do so? 374 00:17:47,380 --> 00:17:51,340 So can we find some situation under which it's justified 375 00:17:51,340 --> 00:17:54,730 for workers or not, or is it just like we cannot pay have 376 00:17:54,730 --> 00:17:57,760 pay inequality under any circumstances in those kinds 377 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,000 of firms? 378 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,580 This is potentially quite relevant 379 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:03,170 for many features of the labor market. 380 00:18:03,170 --> 00:18:05,170 It might explain wage compression. 381 00:18:05,170 --> 00:18:06,670 That's what I'm saying, like wages 382 00:18:06,670 --> 00:18:09,460 tend to be fairly compressed, even if productivity is fairly 383 00:18:09,460 --> 00:18:11,500 dispersed across workers. 384 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:13,450 There tends to be lots of wage rigidity. 385 00:18:13,450 --> 00:18:17,170 Wages tend to not move very much. 386 00:18:17,170 --> 00:18:20,500 Employers have trouble adjusting wages, 387 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:23,080 or they are reluctant to adjust people's wages much, 388 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,520 in particular when it comes to like downward rigidity. 389 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,895 We talked about this a little bit 390 00:18:26,895 --> 00:18:31,120 already when we talked about reference dependence. 391 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,460 This can help us think about like sorting of workers 392 00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:35,830 into firms and inequality. 393 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:37,950 We can think about firm boundaries in a sense 394 00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:41,680 and say should they be really large firms 395 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,420 or a number of small firms? 396 00:18:43,420 --> 00:18:48,070 If you think the relative comparison is across workers 397 00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:50,380 within firms, that would say, well, we should probably 398 00:18:50,380 --> 00:18:52,233 have a lot of small firms. 399 00:18:52,233 --> 00:18:53,650 And then each of these small firms 400 00:18:53,650 --> 00:18:55,510 could have different wages, as opposed 401 00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:58,360 to one large firm where essentially everybody has to be 402 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:00,377 paid more or less the same. 403 00:19:00,377 --> 00:19:02,710 And we might think that's inefficient because as returns 404 00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:05,500 to scale of having a large firm. 405 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:08,350 Think about it is also relevant for some HR policies 406 00:19:08,350 --> 00:19:10,810 in terms of how do you pay workers, 407 00:19:10,810 --> 00:19:13,130 how do you set wages, and so on. 408 00:19:13,130 --> 00:19:15,970 So as motivation in the study, the authors 409 00:19:15,970 --> 00:19:19,460 ask people the following questions. 410 00:19:19,460 --> 00:19:21,850 The questions are the following. 411 00:19:21,850 --> 00:19:29,080 This is rural India in Rissa, a relatively poor area with lots 412 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,600 of small-scale manufacturing. 413 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,430 The question is three people from a village 414 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:36,760 get hired to work on a construction site together. 415 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,940 The prevailing wage is 250 rupees. 416 00:19:39,940 --> 00:19:42,010 That's the standard wage in the village. 417 00:19:42,010 --> 00:19:43,960 Each village tends to have like a prevailing 418 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,780 wage, which is how much people are paid usually. 419 00:19:46,780 --> 00:19:51,460 The contractor pays them 250 rupees per day. 420 00:19:51,460 --> 00:19:53,920 How well will they work together? 421 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,050 And what you see is what respondents tend to say 422 00:19:56,050 --> 00:20:01,810 is 80% of respondents say people worked very well together. 423 00:20:01,810 --> 00:20:06,650 20% say as well as usual, and 0% say there will be conflict. 424 00:20:06,650 --> 00:20:08,620 So that's seems like paying everybody 425 00:20:08,620 --> 00:20:11,540 the same is the socially acceptable thing to do. 426 00:20:11,540 --> 00:20:14,260 Everybody seems happy with that. 427 00:20:14,260 --> 00:20:16,430 In contrast, if you ask the following, 428 00:20:16,430 --> 00:20:19,420 which is the contractor pays them different wages. 429 00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:23,890 If the contractor pays 250 per day, 270 per day, 430 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:28,790 and 290 per day, how well will they work together? 431 00:20:28,790 --> 00:20:32,260 And so now, what you see here is when 432 00:20:32,260 --> 00:20:37,180 there is differences across pay, 94% of workers 433 00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:40,893 say there will be conflict. 434 00:20:40,893 --> 00:20:42,560 Listen, in this version of the question, 435 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,850 it doesn't specify whether that's due with underlying 436 00:20:45,850 --> 00:20:47,000 productivity differences. 437 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,060 So why is it that some workers are paid different than others? 438 00:20:50,060 --> 00:20:52,690 However, it's very strong suggestive evidence 439 00:20:52,690 --> 00:20:55,720 that workers might be really unhappy, 440 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,320 and there will be conflict across workers 441 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,340 if they're paid different wages in the same kind of team, 442 00:21:03,340 --> 00:21:06,700 or at least on the same construction site. 443 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:08,840 And then, of course, if you're an employer, 444 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,240 you might be quite worried about paying people different wages 445 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,410 because of this conflict. 446 00:21:14,410 --> 00:21:17,770 Presumably, workers will not work or collaborate as well 447 00:21:17,770 --> 00:21:20,500 as they could potentially. 448 00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:23,920 OK, so now the authors set up a very nice field experiment 449 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,070 that looks like this. 450 00:21:25,070 --> 00:21:30,850 So there's 10 production units of 3 workers in each factory. 451 00:21:30,850 --> 00:21:35,470 So think of factories like work sites, factories in quotation 452 00:21:35,470 --> 00:21:37,360 marks because it's really not just a factory 453 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:38,860 as you might imagine it. 454 00:21:38,860 --> 00:21:41,410 It's really like a small work site, an office where people 455 00:21:41,410 --> 00:21:43,720 are working in different areas. 456 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,670 There's 10 units of 3 workers each, 457 00:21:45,670 --> 00:21:47,350 so it's not a huge office. 458 00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:51,920 Each unit of three workers produces different products. 459 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,700 So each unit has one product. 460 00:21:54,700 --> 00:21:56,650 For example, unit 1 makes brooms. 461 00:21:56,650 --> 00:21:59,140 Unit 2 makes incense sticks. 462 00:21:59,140 --> 00:22:03,000 Unit 3 makes leaf plates, and so on. 463 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,442 So each unit has one item of production. 464 00:22:06,442 --> 00:22:07,900 Now, why are there different units? 465 00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:09,430 It's essentially to separate workers 466 00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:11,290 into different lines of work. 467 00:22:11,290 --> 00:22:13,390 So what we're going to expect is that workers 468 00:22:13,390 --> 00:22:15,700 are going to compare each other within unit, 469 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:20,200 but not so much across units because if I make brooms 470 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,040 and you make incense sticks, that's 471 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,088 very different work in some ways. 472 00:22:24,088 --> 00:22:25,630 But if you make the exact same thing, 473 00:22:25,630 --> 00:22:27,910 the natural comparison now for workers 474 00:22:27,910 --> 00:22:30,640 to compare yourself with another worker. 475 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,180 All unit members, so everybody in a given unit, 476 00:22:34,180 --> 00:22:35,930 makes the exact same product. 477 00:22:35,930 --> 00:22:40,810 So everybody in unit 1, who is three workers, makes brooms. 478 00:22:40,810 --> 00:22:44,390 Everybody in unit 2 makes incense sticks, and so on. 479 00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:47,980 Now the key experimental variation in the experiment 480 00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:52,900 is weight dispersion across workers within teams. 481 00:22:52,900 --> 00:22:56,290 Finally, there's also-- and I'll get back to that at the end-- 482 00:22:56,290 --> 00:23:02,000 production tasks vary in their observability of performance. 483 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,300 So that is to say for some tasks it just 484 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:07,240 happens to be that it's much easier 485 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,150 to understand how productive your co-worker is than 486 00:23:10,150 --> 00:23:12,430 in other tasks. 487 00:23:12,430 --> 00:23:17,050 OK, so now what is the variation in relative pay. 488 00:23:17,050 --> 00:23:23,920 So here you see people are paid depending on their worker rank. 489 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,260 There's four different regimes of pay 490 00:23:26,260 --> 00:23:28,990 in the different columns, heterogeneous, 491 00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:32,950 compressed L, compressed M, and compressed H. Workers 492 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:33,753 are sorted. 493 00:23:33,753 --> 00:23:35,170 So there's a baseline period where 494 00:23:35,170 --> 00:23:38,380 workers who work for a few days, and the few days 495 00:23:38,380 --> 00:23:41,260 are used to assess their baseline productivity. 496 00:23:41,260 --> 00:23:44,560 They're ranked into three turnstyles, 497 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,420 so there's like the low productive workers, 498 00:23:46,420 --> 00:23:49,060 median productivity, and high productivity workers. 499 00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:51,160 They're ranked essentially based on how well they 500 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,570 did at baseline. 501 00:23:52,570 --> 00:23:54,755 OK, so if you're like really bad at the start, 502 00:23:54,755 --> 00:23:56,380 you would be a low productivity worker. 503 00:23:56,380 --> 00:23:57,760 If you're like an average worker, 504 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,325 you would be median productivity. 505 00:23:59,325 --> 00:24:01,450 And if you're really like highly productive worker, 506 00:24:01,450 --> 00:24:06,280 you would be classified as high productivity workers. 507 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,780 Notice that's always done for all of the different treatment 508 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:09,530 groups. 509 00:24:09,530 --> 00:24:13,640 The difference now is across these different regimes 510 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,530 how workers are paid. 511 00:24:15,530 --> 00:24:19,280 In their heterogeneous pay essentially, there's 512 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,790 differences in cross workers in the sense 513 00:24:22,790 --> 00:24:27,830 of like the low productivity workers are paid low wage, 514 00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:29,570 the median productivity paid workers 515 00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:32,990 are paid the median weight, and the high productivity workers 516 00:24:32,990 --> 00:24:34,178 are paid the high wage. 517 00:24:34,178 --> 00:24:36,470 As you might expect, that's, sort of, the natural thing 518 00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:39,590 to do in terms if wanted more productivity, the most 519 00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:43,220 productive workers you're going to pay the most. 520 00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:46,130 Notice that these wage differences are modest. 521 00:24:46,130 --> 00:24:48,140 Even like the difference between W 522 00:24:48,140 --> 00:24:54,472 high and W low are like only about like up to 10%. 523 00:24:54,472 --> 00:24:56,180 So really these are not huge differences. 524 00:24:56,180 --> 00:24:58,680 It's not that the other guy if you are like low productivity 525 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,870 worker if you get W low, it's not the other guy 526 00:25:01,870 --> 00:25:03,120 gets like twice as much. 527 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:06,350 It really is like modestly more, but it is more money 528 00:25:06,350 --> 00:25:07,580 that they get. 529 00:25:07,580 --> 00:25:10,790 Now then if you look at the other three regimes, compressed 530 00:25:10,790 --> 00:25:15,140 L, compressed M, and compressed H, low productivity-- so 531 00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:18,980 in compressed L, everybody gets to low wage, in compressed M, 532 00:25:18,980 --> 00:25:22,040 everybody gets the minimum wage, and in compressed H, 533 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,260 everybody gets the high wage. 534 00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:26,510 And now the study now lets the authors 535 00:25:26,510 --> 00:25:31,100 compare the different columns for holding exactly 536 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:34,820 constant baseline productivity and wage levels. 537 00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:39,800 That is to say, for instance, we can compare the heterogeneous-- 538 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,810 the low productivity workers that 539 00:25:41,810 --> 00:25:44,600 happen to be randomized into like the heterogeneous 540 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,130 treatment, they receive W low or compare them 541 00:25:49,130 --> 00:25:51,530 with like low productivity workers at baseline who 542 00:25:51,530 --> 00:25:54,530 happen to be randomized into a compressed L. 543 00:25:54,530 --> 00:25:56,240 So I should have said more clearly 544 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,750 people are randomized into any of these four groups, 545 00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:02,570 and then depending on what your baseline productivity is 546 00:26:02,570 --> 00:26:05,970 you get the wages as I show here in the table. 547 00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:08,780 So for example, if you are like a low productivity worker, 548 00:26:08,780 --> 00:26:13,670 you might be randomized into the heterogeneous treatment group. 549 00:26:13,670 --> 00:26:16,130 You might receive W low, or you might 550 00:26:16,130 --> 00:26:18,260 be randomized into the low-- 551 00:26:18,260 --> 00:26:23,150 compressed, low treatment where you also receive W low. 552 00:26:23,150 --> 00:26:25,760 Notice that in both cases, that worker 553 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,100 is a low productivity worker. 554 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:31,430 In both cases, the worker receives W low. 555 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:34,850 However, what's different here now is that his co-worker-- 556 00:26:34,850 --> 00:26:36,230 his or her-- 557 00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:38,060 in this case, these are all men-- 558 00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:41,210 co-workers are receiving either the same, which 559 00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:44,900 is in compressed L, or they receive higher wages 560 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:49,020 in the heterogeneous weight treatment, right. 561 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:50,720 So now we can look at workers who 562 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,000 have the exact same baseline productivity on average 563 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,330 at least and have the exact same weight, but what's being varied 564 00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:58,700 is like how much other workers are earning. 565 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,698 We can do this for low productivity workers. 566 00:27:01,698 --> 00:27:03,740 We can also do it for median productivity workers 567 00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:05,667 or also for high productivity workers. 568 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:07,250 I skip the median productivity worker, 569 00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:08,810 but that's exactly the same. 570 00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:10,220 For high productivity workers, we 571 00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:15,800 can look at the workers who had been randomized 572 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:22,340 into the heterogeneous treatment group or heterogeneous worker 573 00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:23,870 group-- 574 00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:26,870 sorry, heterogeneous wage group where 575 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:29,150 the worker gets a WH but everybody 576 00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:31,460 else gets like a lower wage, or we 577 00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:35,120 can compare that to compressed age where everybody 578 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,340 gets WH in that group. 579 00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:45,820 OK, so now what do you what do the authors find? 580 00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:48,820 Let's start with the low productivity 581 00:27:48,820 --> 00:27:50,170 workers at baseline. 582 00:27:50,170 --> 00:27:52,120 Remember the collinear comparison here 583 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:56,200 is between pay disparity-- this is a heterogeneous group-- pay 584 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,330 disparity and compressed L, which 585 00:27:58,330 --> 00:28:02,710 is like the group where everybody is paid the same. 586 00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:05,500 Now what the authors find-- and you see this in the graph 587 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:09,272 fairly nicely, which is like the productivity-- 588 00:28:09,272 --> 00:28:11,230 these are like the red line and the blue line-- 589 00:28:11,230 --> 00:28:12,910 the productivity on the left side- 590 00:28:12,910 --> 00:28:17,440 this is before the treatment starts for about over 10 days-- 591 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,180 the productivity looks pretty much the same. 592 00:28:20,180 --> 00:28:22,390 But then when you go to the right side of the graph, 593 00:28:22,390 --> 00:28:26,350 not immediately but after a few days they seem to be a gap 594 00:28:26,350 --> 00:28:30,310 or a gap emerges between the red line and the blue line, which 595 00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:36,160 is exactly the gap as you would expect if the disparity makes 596 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,120 workers less productive, which is to say the workers who 597 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,000 receive a low wage but others in that group 598 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,510 are receiving higher wages are becoming less productive 599 00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:50,830 compared to workers that receive a low wage where others have 600 00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:53,530 the exact same productivity. 601 00:28:53,530 --> 00:28:57,340 And you see this also in the regression tables, 602 00:28:57,340 --> 00:29:01,690 you see about a 22% reduction in mean output 603 00:29:01,690 --> 00:29:05,903 and a 9% reduction in earnings, which are pretty large effects. 604 00:29:05,903 --> 00:29:07,570 So these are like large effects compared 605 00:29:07,570 --> 00:29:10,810 to like other interventions that people have tried. 606 00:29:10,810 --> 00:29:12,550 Interesting, you see a little bit 607 00:29:12,550 --> 00:29:15,820 like while the treatment effect when you look at the graph 608 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:19,360 initially looks not particularly large, if anything it might not 609 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,660 even be there often like a few days, that treatment effect 610 00:29:22,660 --> 00:29:23,890 increases over time. 611 00:29:23,890 --> 00:29:27,610 It becomes larger so over time people 612 00:29:27,610 --> 00:29:33,550 become less and less productive compared to the compressed wage 613 00:29:33,550 --> 00:29:34,690 treatment. 614 00:29:34,690 --> 00:29:36,940 Interestingly, we find-- the authors 615 00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:40,720 find similar effects for high ranked, high productivity 616 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,740 workers. 617 00:29:41,740 --> 00:29:43,870 So notice that these are not workers 618 00:29:43,870 --> 00:29:46,540 who either who are high productivity workers 619 00:29:46,540 --> 00:29:49,600 to receive the same wage in the pay disparity treatment 620 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,200 and the compressed H treatment that have the same wage. 621 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,140 In one case, they are paid exactly the same. 622 00:29:56,140 --> 00:29:58,630 In the other case, they're paid more 623 00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:00,910 compared to their coworkers. 624 00:30:00,910 --> 00:30:03,190 And what happens what seems to be the case 625 00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:08,410 is that the compressed high paid workers are, in fact, more 626 00:30:08,410 --> 00:30:10,420 productive compared to others. 627 00:30:10,420 --> 00:30:13,498 You might have expected in some ways like if one guy gets paid 628 00:30:13,498 --> 00:30:15,040 high payment but then others get paid 629 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,802 less, that makes the high pay worker more productive, 630 00:30:17,802 --> 00:30:19,510 because maybe he feels good about himself 631 00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:20,800 that he's a high paid workers. 632 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,710 And maybe he feels he can prove himself or the like, 633 00:30:23,710 --> 00:30:26,050 but instead what seems to be the case the group that 634 00:30:26,050 --> 00:30:31,270 works in his team that does not work well together or they just 635 00:30:31,270 --> 00:30:34,030 becomes uncomfortable to work with somebody else who is like 636 00:30:34,030 --> 00:30:37,500 really mad at you for earning more than they do. 637 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:41,950 And so now the high pay workers in the compressed treatment, 638 00:30:41,950 --> 00:30:44,140 in fact, earn more or produce more 639 00:30:44,140 --> 00:30:49,160 than the high paid workers in the pay disparity treatment. 640 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,510 So that is to say the pay disparity, 641 00:30:52,510 --> 00:30:55,630 pay inequality does not only reduce 642 00:30:55,630 --> 00:30:58,360 worker's productivity for the low pay workers, 643 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,400 so not only the people-- 644 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,533 the workers who are earning less compared to their co-workers, 645 00:31:04,533 --> 00:31:06,200 and that's in some sense to be expected. 646 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,492 You might just be mad at everybody else or other people 647 00:31:08,492 --> 00:31:11,350 in your group are earning more. 648 00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:13,190 Then you might be unhappy and mad about that 649 00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:14,950 and just then produce less. 650 00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:17,890 Instead it seems to be the case even the high productivity 651 00:31:17,890 --> 00:31:21,130 workers, the workers who earn more than others in their group 652 00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:25,330 are producing less compared to the control group where 653 00:31:25,330 --> 00:31:27,890 everybody earns the same. 654 00:31:27,890 --> 00:31:29,320 So what did we learn from that? 655 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,070 Well, pay disparity lowers worker performance for all team 656 00:31:33,070 --> 00:31:36,790 members, and so the interpretation of that 657 00:31:36,790 --> 00:31:42,070 is that pay disparity undermines workers ability to cooperate 658 00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:46,000 in their own self-interest. 659 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,740 The paper has some additional evidence 660 00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:50,050 with some cooperative tasks where 661 00:31:50,050 --> 00:31:53,060 essentially workers are worse at cooperating with each other. 662 00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:55,480 It seems to really be that workers are not 663 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,760 happy to work in the same place with somebody 664 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,550 else who earns less. 665 00:32:00,550 --> 00:32:03,100 Importantly, the perceived justification 666 00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:05,800 is essential in mediating these effects. 667 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,590 That is to say I told you previously that for some task 668 00:32:08,590 --> 00:32:12,680 it was easier to see who was more productive than others, 669 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,400 especially at baseline just because in the task 670 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,570 the difference is across highly and less highly productive. 671 00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:22,480 Or high and low productivity workers was just wider, 672 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,270 and it's just easy to see that Frank is really bad at this 673 00:32:25,270 --> 00:32:26,800 and somebody else is really good. 674 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,320 And for some task, it's really easy to see that, 675 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,800 for others not. 676 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,410 So if it's really easy-- if there's 677 00:32:32,410 --> 00:32:34,397 a perceived justification for workers, 678 00:32:34,397 --> 00:32:35,980 if workers, sort of, thought, OK, it's 679 00:32:35,980 --> 00:32:39,550 really easy to see who is more productive than others, 680 00:32:39,550 --> 00:32:42,250 the effects are much weaker than when there 681 00:32:42,250 --> 00:32:44,440 is no receive justification. 682 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,473 That is to say workers themselves are saying, 683 00:32:46,473 --> 00:32:47,890 like, if I'm saying, look, there's 684 00:32:47,890 --> 00:32:50,000 this other worker who is really productive 685 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,740 and if I'm sort of saying, hey, look, 686 00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:53,198 this is really obvious that they're 687 00:32:53,198 --> 00:32:54,910 more productive than I am, it's only fair 688 00:32:54,910 --> 00:32:57,910 that they're earning more, then the affects 689 00:32:57,910 --> 00:33:01,190 are much damage-- then there's much less than an effect that's 690 00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:04,120 accepted, and there's much less of a productivity 691 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,048 effect, if any, if there's pay inequality. 692 00:33:08,048 --> 00:33:10,090 However, if it seems to be the case that they're, 693 00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:12,550 kind of, like producing the same thing, 694 00:33:12,550 --> 00:33:16,150 if we like similarly producing the same thing 695 00:33:16,150 --> 00:33:19,270 and we're equally good at it or approximately equally good 696 00:33:19,270 --> 00:33:22,610 and one person is paid more than I am for no good reason, 697 00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:26,200 so it appears that workers are really not happy about that, 698 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:33,160 then work performance, in particular output falls. 699 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,430 So what are the implications? 700 00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:39,370 Well, this evidence suggests that weight compression 701 00:33:39,370 --> 00:33:42,490 may be more likely in some settings than in others, right. 702 00:33:42,490 --> 00:33:45,220 That's to say like if it's easy to justify, 703 00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:48,280 if the production function or like the production process is 704 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,030 such that all aspects of the production and the output 705 00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:55,750 or the performance are easy, measurable, and observable 706 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:58,720 for workers, then workers might say 707 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,510 it's OK if some workers are earning more than others. 708 00:34:02,510 --> 00:34:05,740 However, if that's not the case, if there's a bunch of stuff 709 00:34:05,740 --> 00:34:08,020 in the work process that's really not observed-- 710 00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:11,170 maybe it's verbal or maybe just really hard to justify or hard 711 00:34:11,170 --> 00:34:14,199 to sort of assess in some tangible way-- 712 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,750 then workers might be really unhappy 713 00:34:16,750 --> 00:34:19,060 and that might lead to weight compression, 714 00:34:19,060 --> 00:34:23,110 because the employer might anticipate that. 715 00:34:23,110 --> 00:34:28,239 So overall, this, sort of, says that like relative comparisons 716 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,500 matter quite a bit. 717 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:32,860 Fairness matters quite a bit, and what's 718 00:34:32,860 --> 00:34:34,909 really key for an employer and anybody who 719 00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:39,130 sets incentives is to take into account these fairness 720 00:34:39,130 --> 00:34:43,090 considerations, and one wants to really understand what is fair 721 00:34:43,090 --> 00:34:44,300 and what is not. 722 00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:48,460 And upsetting workers by violating these fairness 723 00:34:48,460 --> 00:34:52,030 considerations or norms might be really, really costly 724 00:34:52,030 --> 00:34:55,060 for an employer. 725 00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:58,980 So the good news here is that if one understands that well, one 726 00:34:58,980 --> 00:35:01,890 can really sort of produce increased productivity quite 727 00:35:01,890 --> 00:35:06,660 a bit, and in some cases weight inequalities actually fine. 728 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:09,600 One just has to be careful in figuring out when exactly is 729 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,790 that the case, OK. 730 00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:14,290 As I said, there's a very nice paper 731 00:35:14,290 --> 00:35:17,350 by Jonas Hjort on ethnic divisions 732 00:35:17,350 --> 00:35:18,760 and production in firms. 733 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,740 You're going to talk about that in recitation. 734 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,880 OK, the second part of this lecture 735 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,620 we'll talk about policies to increase pro-sociality. 736 00:35:31,620 --> 00:35:34,290 And so the first of these papers is 737 00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:37,320 very nice recent paper by Gautam Rao that looks at the question 738 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,660 are social preferences malleable. 739 00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:41,920 Like, what are the origins of social preferences? 740 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,930 Why is it that some people appear nicer than others? 741 00:35:46,930 --> 00:35:48,660 And then once we understand that, 742 00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:51,960 perhaps, we can also understand what policies, if anything, 743 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,837 can affect social preferences. 744 00:35:56,460 --> 00:35:58,350 The main question that this paper asks 745 00:35:58,350 --> 00:36:01,560 is how does being mixed with poor students in school 746 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,040 affect the social preferences of rich students. 747 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,790 Now in a lot of the, kind of, policies 748 00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:11,430 where poor students are mixed with rich students, 749 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:13,320 you might ask the question, how does 750 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,500 it affect the poor student. 751 00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:16,410 If a poor student for whatever reason 752 00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:20,130 would not be able to afford like a rich school or rich student's 753 00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:22,320 school and you, sort of, allow them 754 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,610 by giving them scholarships or other policies, 755 00:36:26,610 --> 00:36:28,110 often the question that people ask 756 00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:30,450 is like what are the benefits of doing that. 757 00:36:30,450 --> 00:36:34,035 Is the poor student doing better in school, 758 00:36:34,035 --> 00:36:36,660 or do they have different types of friends, different networks, 759 00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:39,520 and does it lead to better jobs and so on and so forth? 760 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,790 This question, this paper ask a different question. 761 00:36:41,790 --> 00:36:45,270 It asks the question about what is the effect of rich students 762 00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:47,100 if they randomly or quasi randomly 763 00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:52,200 are exposed to being in class with additional or some more 764 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,150 poor students. 765 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:56,490 The paper exploits a policy change 766 00:36:56,490 --> 00:37:01,800 that introduced an admissions quota of 20% for poor students 767 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,000 in primary schools in Delhi. 768 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,280 In Delhi, these are rich primary schools. 769 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,410 The paper looks at two sources of variation. 770 00:37:11,410 --> 00:37:14,100 There's variation across classrooms 771 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:17,400 that allows the author to look at the overall effects. 772 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,370 So you can look at, like, within schools there's 773 00:37:21,370 --> 00:37:26,650 going to be treated and controlled cohorts, 774 00:37:26,650 --> 00:37:30,010 because the policy was introduced at some point. 775 00:37:30,010 --> 00:37:33,280 So for some students, they enjoyed 776 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,760 the benefits of being in class with poor students 777 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,050 or the costs. 778 00:37:38,050 --> 00:37:39,550 We'll see about that. 779 00:37:39,550 --> 00:37:42,130 And for other schools, they're already too far advanced. 780 00:37:42,130 --> 00:37:44,230 They were like essentially before the-- 781 00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:46,780 they went to school before the policy was enacted, 782 00:37:46,780 --> 00:37:49,390 and therefore they were not exposed 783 00:37:49,390 --> 00:37:52,270 to having poor students in school. 784 00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:53,830 For these treated schools there is 785 00:37:53,830 --> 00:37:57,340 essentially variation within school across cohorts 786 00:37:57,340 --> 00:37:59,890 that we can look at. 787 00:37:59,890 --> 00:38:01,250 Second within cohorts. 788 00:38:01,250 --> 00:38:04,000 We can look at treated and control schools. 789 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,300 So some schools were getting additional poor kids and others 790 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:08,800 did not. 791 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,180 I'll tell you about this in a second. 792 00:38:11,180 --> 00:38:14,020 And then there's variation within classrooms 793 00:38:14,020 --> 00:38:17,800 to allow us to look at the role of personal interactions. 794 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,780 There are, sort of, idiosyncratic assignments 795 00:38:19,780 --> 00:38:22,210 to study groups, so some students 796 00:38:22,210 --> 00:38:25,240 happen to be in study groups with a poor kid, 797 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,830 and others were not. 798 00:38:32,795 --> 00:38:34,170 Now what does this study measure. 799 00:38:34,170 --> 00:38:36,750 The study measures three broad set of outcomes. 800 00:38:36,750 --> 00:38:39,420 It measures pro-social behavior and generosity. 801 00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:41,670 This is very much what we have already looked at. 802 00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:45,810 In particular, it looks at dictator games and volunteering 803 00:38:45,810 --> 00:38:47,670 for charities at school. 804 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:51,318 The paper has a very nice mix of laboratory outcomes, 805 00:38:51,318 --> 00:38:52,860 sort of, measured in the field, which 806 00:38:52,860 --> 00:38:55,795 is, sort of, the dictator game that you're all familiar with. 807 00:38:55,795 --> 00:38:57,420 And field outcomes, were just, sort of, 808 00:38:57,420 --> 00:39:00,480 trying to collect real world outcomes 809 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,880 in the sense of like things that are, perhaps, 810 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,320 somewhat less contrived from the perspective of kids in school. 811 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,240 And what's very nice about the study is 812 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:12,780 that it seems to be that the results are very much aligned 813 00:39:12,780 --> 00:39:15,540 between, sort of, these live outcomes, the dictator game 814 00:39:15,540 --> 00:39:18,250 type outcomes, and the field outcomes, 815 00:39:18,250 --> 00:39:21,870 which is volunteering for charity at school in this case. 816 00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:26,010 Second, the author looks at discrimination 817 00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:27,570 in social interactions. 818 00:39:27,570 --> 00:39:30,780 In particular, he does it all sports contests and looks 819 00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:33,660 at teammates selection among these students 820 00:39:33,660 --> 00:39:38,010 and then willingness to attend play dates with poor students. 821 00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:41,370 Finally, the author also looks at academic outcomes, 822 00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:44,970 in particular test scores and disciplinary infractions. 823 00:39:44,970 --> 00:39:47,910 Now why might one want to look at academic outcomes, 824 00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:51,960 and why we're interested in social preferences, 825 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,270 there's several reasons for that. 826 00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:55,920 In particular, an important reason 827 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,830 here is that if you're against this type of policy, 828 00:39:59,830 --> 00:40:04,560 I might, sort of, show you that, oh, adding poor children 829 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,140 might affect the social preference of rich children 830 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:08,400 and so on in various ways. 831 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,830 Maybe discretization goes down, but perhaps it's 832 00:40:10,830 --> 00:40:13,780 the case that all comes at the cost of academic performance, 833 00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:14,280 right. 834 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,405 If you're trying to, sort of, implement this policy 835 00:40:16,405 --> 00:40:23,100 and persuade policymakers, maybe teachers or parents of like, 836 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:27,690 OK, let's have more poor students in your school. 837 00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:29,640 Well, parents might, sort of, be OK fine. 838 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,310 There's going to be like some change in social preferences, 839 00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:34,110 some change in discrimination, but really 840 00:40:34,110 --> 00:40:39,390 what we care about is test scores or discipline at school, 841 00:40:39,390 --> 00:40:42,180 and these poor kids might not be-- 842 00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:44,310 might be worse in terms of test scores, 843 00:40:44,310 --> 00:40:46,560 and they might have negative peer effects 844 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,450 in terms of test scores but also in terms 845 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:53,400 of disciplinary infractions. 846 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,300 And, sort of, as a policy question, 847 00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:57,360 then it's really important to understand 848 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,010 if there are some benefits in terms 849 00:40:59,010 --> 00:41:02,280 of poor sociology or reduced discrimination, 850 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,050 do these benefits come at the cost 851 00:41:04,050 --> 00:41:07,005 of reduced academic performance? 852 00:41:12,093 --> 00:41:14,010 So now what is, in fact, the policy innovation 853 00:41:14,010 --> 00:41:15,690 in Delhi in 2007. 854 00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:20,340 There was a 20% admissions quota in private schools introduced 855 00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:22,980 for poor students in some of these private schools. 856 00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:26,737 There's a household income cutoff of $2,000 per year. 857 00:41:26,737 --> 00:41:28,320 So these are not, sort of, the poorest 858 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,820 of the pole of the students who are qualified. 859 00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:35,760 Schools which received subsidized land 860 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,870 from the government were essentially 861 00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:41,820 included in this policy change. 862 00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:44,693 That's over 90% of elite private schools. 863 00:41:44,693 --> 00:41:46,360 So think of these elite private schools. 864 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,730 These are really, sort of, like very rich kids or parents 865 00:41:50,730 --> 00:41:52,013 of these kids. 866 00:41:52,013 --> 00:41:53,430 There's no fees for the poor kids, 867 00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:57,000 because they would not be able to afford these fees anyway. 868 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,980 There was importantly also no tracking. 869 00:41:58,980 --> 00:42:03,870 So it wasn't that high ability or high performance kids 870 00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:05,310 would do very well where they like 871 00:42:05,310 --> 00:42:08,310 tracked into the high tracks and the good tracks verses 872 00:42:08,310 --> 00:42:09,540 lower tracks. 873 00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:11,730 Instead everybody was mixed together, 874 00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:15,600 poor and rich, high performing, low performing students. 875 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,720 And the poor kids were selected using lotteries, 876 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,600 which in principle also allows the author or others to look 877 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,330 at the effective on those poor kids, the students who 878 00:42:24,330 --> 00:42:25,860 are selected versus not. 879 00:42:25,860 --> 00:42:29,040 To be clear this is not the subject of this paper. 880 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,900 Just to give you a sense of the magnitude of like the mixing, 881 00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:38,400 you see is that the average beneficiary was a, sort of, 882 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:45,690 at the 25th percentile of the income distribution in Delhi, 883 00:42:45,690 --> 00:42:51,130 and wealthy students are very much on the right tail-- 884 00:42:51,130 --> 00:42:54,540 sorry on the right tail of the distribution, something 885 00:42:54,540 --> 00:42:58,170 like the 90th percentile, 95th, which is about-- 886 00:42:58,170 --> 00:43:02,410 the US equivalent of that would be about $200,000 per year. 887 00:43:02,410 --> 00:43:06,420 The average beneficiary had like the US equivalent 888 00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:08,340 income of like $23,000. 889 00:43:08,340 --> 00:43:10,530 Again, these are not the poorest of the pole 890 00:43:10,530 --> 00:43:14,460 but relatively poor as about like an order of magnitude 891 00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:19,230 poorer than the average person in the actual school. 892 00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:23,640 Now this policy then induced large variation 893 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,260 across classrooms. 894 00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:30,150 If you look at poor students in the fraction of the numbers 895 00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:33,810 of poor students in by grade in 2011, 896 00:43:33,810 --> 00:43:38,010 I told you the policy innovation was in 2007. 897 00:43:38,010 --> 00:43:42,540 So if you look at 2011-- that's four years later-- 898 00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:47,100 anybody who is in grade four in 2011 899 00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:51,420 has essentially no poor student in that class 900 00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:53,310 in those rich schools. 901 00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:57,870 So for students who were in 2011 in grade four, five, or six. 902 00:43:57,870 --> 00:43:59,610 That policy came too late. 903 00:43:59,610 --> 00:44:02,730 They did not have any poor classmates. 904 00:44:02,730 --> 00:44:07,140 In contrast, if you look at the lower grades, 905 00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:10,430 grades 3, 2, 1, and 0, which essentially preschool 906 00:44:10,430 --> 00:44:13,500 or minus 1, which is preschool grades, 907 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:15,660 there's lots of additional poor students 908 00:44:15,660 --> 00:44:19,750 now in those rich schools. 909 00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:22,560 Now again, there's variation within schools 910 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,490 and across schools. 911 00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:26,190 The variation within schools is across classrooms. 912 00:44:26,190 --> 00:44:29,190 That's, kind of, what I'm showing you here. 913 00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:31,883 But it's also a variation across schools. 914 00:44:31,883 --> 00:44:33,300 So just to be clear, the variation 915 00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:39,030 within schools across classrooms is like in the treated schools 916 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:41,850 there's some classes like the fourth grade have 917 00:44:41,850 --> 00:44:45,090 like essentially zero poor kids in their classes, 918 00:44:45,090 --> 00:44:48,210 and the third grade, in contrast, 919 00:44:48,210 --> 00:44:52,390 have lots of poor kids in the classroom. 920 00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:55,080 They can do that comparison across classrooms 921 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,340 within school. 922 00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:59,040 In addition, has also variation across schools. 923 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,920 There is, in particular, there's treatment schools, which 924 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,590 comply in 2007 as they were supposed to, 925 00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:07,200 but then there's also delayed treatment schools, 926 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,940 which complied in 2008. 927 00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:11,100 So the jump shifted by one cohort. 928 00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:13,350 So the cohort, the jump that I showed you here, 929 00:45:13,350 --> 00:45:17,820 this is for the treatment schools that complied 930 00:45:17,820 --> 00:45:20,580 or this for everybody that complied in 2007. 931 00:45:20,580 --> 00:45:22,540 The delayed one complied a year later, 932 00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:26,820 so you'll see them essentially, somewhat later increasing-- 933 00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:28,590 or one year later exactly increasing 934 00:45:28,590 --> 00:45:31,020 the fraction of poor kids in their classroom. 935 00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:32,970 And then there is the control schools 936 00:45:32,970 --> 00:45:36,630 that were not subject to the policy, at least until 2013. 937 00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:39,625 So they had received-- 938 00:45:39,625 --> 00:45:42,000 they had received land from federal government or private 939 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,140 foundations. 940 00:45:44,140 --> 00:45:46,410 So essentially there was no treatment. 941 00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:50,700 That is all students are rich in these types of classes. 942 00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:53,630 So that is-- the land receiving is essentially just-- 943 00:45:53,630 --> 00:45:57,180 that was like a fairly arbitrary rule in some ways. 944 00:45:57,180 --> 00:46:00,470 So that, sort of, leads to at least quasi random variation. 945 00:46:00,470 --> 00:46:07,280 And some schools received the treatment, and others did not. 946 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,330 Now let me show you some outcomes. 947 00:46:09,330 --> 00:46:11,960 So one outcome is our friend the dictator game which you have 948 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,350 seen quite a bit and played already as well is students are 949 00:46:15,350 --> 00:46:18,860 allowed with 10 rupees, which is not very much-- 950 00:46:18,860 --> 00:46:21,380 that's about like $0.15-- 951 00:46:21,380 --> 00:46:23,540 and they choose to share-- 952 00:46:23,540 --> 00:46:25,760 notice that these are pretty young kids, 953 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,040 so 10 rupees is quite a bit of money for them. 954 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:33,170 They choose to share an amount as before between 0 and 10. 955 00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:36,203 And Gautam sets this up such that students could-- 956 00:46:36,203 --> 00:46:38,120 it was not just about the money, but they also 957 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,850 can exchange the money for candy later, add 1 rupee per piece. 958 00:46:41,850 --> 00:46:45,190 So that was a pretty good deal. 959 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:48,490 Then the dictator games for the order was randomized. 960 00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:50,350 The kids would play two games. 961 00:46:50,350 --> 00:46:53,800 Again, so all rich kids would do that. 962 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,340 They play first game one where the recipient is a poor student 963 00:46:57,340 --> 00:46:59,170 in a school for poor children. 964 00:46:59,170 --> 00:47:01,990 And in game 2, it's a rich student 965 00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:03,880 in a private control school. 966 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,750 Notice it's a control school to be clear, 967 00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:10,960 so it's not a kid that they might know. 968 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,430 So the kids are chosen such that the kids were 969 00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:18,640 given the names and the photographs of the school shown 970 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,440 to the subject, to the kids. 971 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,850 So you could sort of see-- 972 00:47:21,850 --> 00:47:23,470 and this is verified in the briefing 973 00:47:23,470 --> 00:47:26,710 by the author-- is that the children understand 974 00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:30,370 very well who is a rich kid and who's a poor kid, 975 00:47:30,370 --> 00:47:33,290 but these are not kids that they would actually know. 976 00:47:33,290 --> 00:47:35,290 And something that's a less interesting question 977 00:47:35,290 --> 00:47:38,530 if you have gone to school with somebody for a long time, 978 00:47:38,530 --> 00:47:41,740 you might have seen them around in your school yard, 979 00:47:41,740 --> 00:47:44,450 you might be nicer to them or less nice to them. 980 00:47:44,450 --> 00:47:46,330 That's not what the study is looking at. 981 00:47:46,330 --> 00:47:50,200 The study is looking at other kids in other schools 982 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,530 that look rich or look poor both in terms 983 00:47:53,530 --> 00:47:56,930 of the way they're dressed and so on, 984 00:47:56,930 --> 00:47:59,570 but in particular the way their school looks like. 985 00:47:59,570 --> 00:48:01,085 So essentially these are-- 986 00:48:01,085 --> 00:48:02,710 now we're looking at social preferences 987 00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:07,310 towards other people, people that these kids don't know. 988 00:48:07,310 --> 00:48:09,410 OK, so now what do we see. 989 00:48:09,410 --> 00:48:11,570 So this is a generosity to the pole. 990 00:48:11,570 --> 00:48:14,690 So like this is essentially the results from game number one. 991 00:48:14,690 --> 00:48:18,500 Again, remember these are all rich kids who are giving now 992 00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:22,190 to poor kids, and the question now is being exposed to 993 00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:27,860 or does being exposed to poor children for several years, 994 00:48:27,860 --> 00:48:32,480 does that affect giving in the form of dictator 995 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,230 games towards poor children to start with. 996 00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:39,270 And we're going to talk about rich students after that. 997 00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:43,430 So here you see the generosity to the poor in control schools. 998 00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:47,450 You see this is the percent to the poor recipient. 999 00:48:47,450 --> 00:48:50,340 It's remarkably similar to what we've seen previously, 1000 00:48:50,340 --> 00:48:52,120 which is about 20% to 30%. 1001 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,570 About 25% is given to the pole kid in the control 1002 00:48:56,570 --> 00:48:59,930 groups in the control schools. 1003 00:48:59,930 --> 00:49:04,190 This fraction seems to trend up a little bit over time, 1004 00:49:04,190 --> 00:49:07,370 but it's also quite constant over time across grades. 1005 00:49:07,370 --> 00:49:10,970 You see here by grades two, three, four, and five 1006 00:49:10,970 --> 00:49:11,990 on the x-axis. 1007 00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:15,320 On the y-axis, it's the percent given to the poor recipients. 1008 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,240 Now adding the treatment schools, 1009 00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:20,600 now we find that for two grades-- 1010 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,030 for grade two and grade three, remember the graph 1011 00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:24,940 that I showed you here. 1012 00:49:24,940 --> 00:49:27,610 You see that in grades three, two, one, 1013 00:49:27,610 --> 00:49:29,200 and so on, these are the kids who 1014 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,130 are exposed to the poor children in class in contrast 1015 00:49:33,130 --> 00:49:35,410 to grades four and five that have not been exposed 1016 00:49:35,410 --> 00:49:37,540 to poor kids in their class. 1017 00:49:37,540 --> 00:49:41,620 So what this graph shows is that exactly the grades 1018 00:49:41,620 --> 00:49:44,470 three and two that have been exposed-- 1019 00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:46,000 in the treatment groups that have 1020 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,280 been exposed to poor classmates, these 1021 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:55,030 are exactly the students, the grades where giving is higher 1022 00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:58,690 towards the poor compared to the control groups 1023 00:49:58,690 --> 00:50:02,710 but also compared to the older cohorts four and five, 1024 00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:04,090 the grade four and five. 1025 00:50:04,090 --> 00:50:07,070 When you look at grades four and five, 1026 00:50:07,070 --> 00:50:09,320 they see essentially no difference between treatment 1027 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,640 and control schools. 1028 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,530 So they seem to be very similar. 1029 00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:15,170 In contrast, if you look at grades three 1030 00:50:15,170 --> 00:50:18,770 and through where the treatment kids are exposed 1031 00:50:18,770 --> 00:50:22,430 to the treatment by having the poor kids in their classrooms, 1032 00:50:22,430 --> 00:50:27,020 these are exactly the years where giving goes up and goes 1033 00:50:27,020 --> 00:50:27,890 up by quite a bit. 1034 00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:31,730 While the average was, as I said before, about 25%, 1035 00:50:31,730 --> 00:50:34,010 that goes up to about 35%. 1036 00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:36,455 So that's a pretty large relative increase. 1037 00:50:39,650 --> 00:50:42,530 Now in addition, as I told you, there 1038 00:50:42,530 --> 00:50:45,800 are also delayed treatment groups, treatment schools. 1039 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,968 For those schools, if you were in grade three, 1040 00:50:48,968 --> 00:50:51,260 it was also too late for you, because the treatment was 1041 00:50:51,260 --> 00:50:53,490 introduced only a year later. 1042 00:50:53,490 --> 00:50:55,850 So if you were in grade three, you 1043 00:50:55,850 --> 00:50:58,880 did not have any poor kids in your school. 1044 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,800 Now if you look at the yellow line here, 1045 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,620 the yellow line looks very much like the green line. 1046 00:51:03,620 --> 00:51:06,200 That is for the delay treatment schools, 1047 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,180 there's no impact either. 1048 00:51:08,180 --> 00:51:11,360 They look very much like the control group of schools, 1049 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,710 as you would expect. 1050 00:51:13,710 --> 00:51:17,960 However, in the delayed treatment schools 1051 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,460 in grade number two, that's the grade where 1052 00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:23,640 the students are exposed-- 1053 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,450 the rich students are exposed to the poor kids using 1054 00:51:26,450 --> 00:51:31,340 the essentially similar effects to the treatment schools, 1055 00:51:31,340 --> 00:51:32,520 as you expect. 1056 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,070 So that's fairly compelling evidence 1057 00:51:34,070 --> 00:51:39,230 that really the differences that you see across these schools 1058 00:51:39,230 --> 00:51:43,790 are driven by the treatment that was-- 1059 00:51:43,790 --> 00:51:48,770 the timing of the treatment as opposed to other potential 1060 00:51:48,770 --> 00:51:52,100 effects due to like selection or maybe these schools 1061 00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:53,390 are different and so on. 1062 00:51:53,390 --> 00:51:55,070 We see essentially no differences 1063 00:51:55,070 --> 00:51:58,650 in grades four and five for any of the treatment and control 1064 00:51:58,650 --> 00:51:59,330 schools. 1065 00:51:59,330 --> 00:52:02,150 You also see no difference in grades three 1066 00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:03,890 for the delayed treatment schools 1067 00:52:03,890 --> 00:52:05,430 compared to the control group. 1068 00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:07,970 In contrast, we see clear differences 1069 00:52:07,970 --> 00:52:11,180 in grades two for the delay in the treatment school as 1070 00:52:11,180 --> 00:52:12,770 compared to the control schools. 1071 00:52:12,770 --> 00:52:16,040 We also see a clear difference for the treatment schools 1072 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,280 compared to both the control schools and the delayed 1073 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,650 treatment schools as well. 1074 00:52:22,650 --> 00:52:25,400 So that's fairly compelling evidence 1075 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,550 that game or play, dictator games 1076 00:52:28,550 --> 00:52:32,690 changes when students are exposed 1077 00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:37,750 for quite a long time to poor kids in their classroom. 1078 00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:41,830 OK so now in addition, we will have 1079 00:52:41,830 --> 00:52:44,270 variation within classroom. 1080 00:52:44,270 --> 00:52:46,690 So what I show you here, this is all variation 1081 00:52:46,690 --> 00:52:48,400 across classrooms. 1082 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,640 That is to say, if you have a poor kid in your classroom, 1083 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,760 you will behave differently, or that will change your attitude 1084 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,840 toward your giving and dictator games 1085 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,370 towards the poor or other poor children. 1086 00:53:03,370 --> 00:53:06,490 Now, in addition, the author also 1087 00:53:06,490 --> 00:53:10,750 has evidence of variation within classroom. 1088 00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:12,500 Now, he lets you think about for a second, 1089 00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:15,590 why is it important to also have variation within classroom? 1090 00:53:15,590 --> 00:53:18,410 Isn't the evidence that we have here already compelling enough? 1091 00:53:18,410 --> 00:53:20,643 Why do we need more? 1092 00:53:20,643 --> 00:53:22,310 And you can think about it for a second. 1093 00:53:29,530 --> 00:53:33,250 The reason for that is that the diff-in-diff, the difference 1094 00:53:33,250 --> 00:53:36,790 in differences comparing essentially across classrooms, 1095 00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:39,190 identifies the overall effective having 1096 00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:41,380 poor classmates in class. 1097 00:53:41,380 --> 00:53:44,920 That might be the result of personal interactions. 1098 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,160 But it might also be the result of the teacher. 1099 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,390 The curriculum might change. 1100 00:53:49,390 --> 00:53:52,010 Your parents might change in some ways in just telling you, 1101 00:53:52,010 --> 00:53:52,510 look. 1102 00:53:52,510 --> 00:53:54,460 There's these poor kids in your class. 1103 00:53:54,460 --> 00:53:56,350 The teachers might tell everybody, oh, you 1104 00:53:56,350 --> 00:53:58,120 need to be nice to poor kids. 1105 00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,320 The curriculum might change. 1106 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,820 It might sort of include things that 1107 00:54:00,820 --> 00:54:02,770 tell you to be nice to poor kids and so on. 1108 00:54:02,770 --> 00:54:04,937 You might be sort of exposed to just different types 1109 00:54:04,937 --> 00:54:05,860 of material. 1110 00:54:05,860 --> 00:54:08,050 So really, given the evidence that we have here, 1111 00:54:08,050 --> 00:54:10,480 when you just compare across classrooms, 1112 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,170 you cannot disentangle whether this is driven from being 1113 00:54:14,170 --> 00:54:18,430 personally exposed in terms of interacting with poor children 1114 00:54:18,430 --> 00:54:20,830 personally by just talking to them in certain ways, 1115 00:54:20,830 --> 00:54:24,290 or being exposed to them, or learning about them and so on. 1116 00:54:24,290 --> 00:54:27,820 So you cannot disentangle personal interactions from 1117 00:54:27,820 --> 00:54:30,430 teacher or curriculum changes that are essentially 1118 00:54:30,430 --> 00:54:32,960 at the classroom level. 1119 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,320 So in addition, then, Gautam also 1120 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,360 has a within-classroom strategy that 1121 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,180 exploits the assignments of study groups. 1122 00:54:43,180 --> 00:54:44,860 What is that doing is essentially, 1123 00:54:44,860 --> 00:54:48,190 it isolates the role of direct personal interactions 1124 00:54:48,190 --> 00:54:50,630 and is not subject to sorting concerns. 1125 00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:53,260 Another concern might be that you might sort of say, 1126 00:54:53,260 --> 00:54:57,820 oh, well, in this school, they're 1127 00:54:57,820 --> 00:55:01,000 having poor kids that are allowed 1128 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,260 into this private school. 1129 00:55:02,260 --> 00:55:05,120 I'm going to send my kids to somebody else. 1130 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:10,150 So that's also an issue perhaps potentially in the evidence 1131 00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:12,250 that I showed you before across classrooms. 1132 00:55:12,250 --> 00:55:14,080 The within-classroom strategy is now 1133 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,170 looking at everybody who is in that classroom 1134 00:55:17,170 --> 00:55:22,900 and looking at some kids were just randomly assigned 1135 00:55:22,900 --> 00:55:25,810 to be in study groups with poor kids, and others were not. 1136 00:55:25,810 --> 00:55:28,240 And that sort of allowed us to disentangle 1137 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:30,085 or allows us to isolate the effect 1138 00:55:30,085 --> 00:55:32,870 of personal interactions. 1139 00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:36,670 So one hour a day, kids were working in small groups 1140 00:55:36,670 --> 00:55:38,530 of 2 to 4 students. 1141 00:55:38,530 --> 00:55:41,200 Remember, this was for a very long period of time. 1142 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,450 So it's one hour per day, but it was also 1143 00:55:43,450 --> 00:55:44,450 for quite a bit of time. 1144 00:55:44,450 --> 00:55:46,090 It's not just doing that once or twice. 1145 00:55:46,090 --> 00:55:48,610 It's more an extended period of time. 1146 00:55:48,610 --> 00:55:51,760 And crucially, some schools use the alphabetic order 1147 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,450 of first names to assign study groups. 1148 00:55:54,450 --> 00:55:56,350 So that's essentially exogenous variation 1149 00:55:56,350 --> 00:55:58,090 in personal interactions. 1150 00:55:58,090 --> 00:56:04,120 Other schools frequently shuffled the groups and only-- 1151 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,020 which essentially sort of-- 1152 00:56:08,020 --> 00:56:11,080 everybody was equally exposed to those kinds of-- 1153 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,300 to different students. 1154 00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:16,270 So you are sometimes in study groups with rich students 1155 00:56:16,270 --> 00:56:18,760 only and sometimes with poor students only. 1156 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,170 In the first group where the alphabetic order was used, 1157 00:56:23,170 --> 00:56:25,600 you were either sort of in the study group 1158 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:32,170 where you happened to be next to somebody who's 1159 00:56:32,170 --> 00:56:34,360 a poor kid because they happened to be next to you 1160 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,000 in the alphabet, or you're not, and that stayed the same. 1161 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,370 Now, what does this let us look at? 1162 00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:44,190 Essentially, the alphabetical order predicts study partners. 1163 00:56:44,190 --> 00:56:46,790 So now you might say people with different names might also 1164 00:56:46,790 --> 00:56:47,520 be different. 1165 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,400 So it could just be that like my name-- 1166 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,350 because my name is different, I'm 1167 00:56:51,350 --> 00:56:55,890 more likely to be next in the alphabet to a poor student. 1168 00:56:55,890 --> 00:56:58,250 For example, if I'm a rich kid and there 1169 00:56:58,250 --> 00:57:02,000 are some names that are more similar to poor kids' names, 1170 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,610 it could be that my parents are particularly tolerant. 1171 00:57:04,610 --> 00:57:09,050 They also gave me a name that sounds like a poor person. 1172 00:57:09,050 --> 00:57:11,510 And therefore, I'm more likely to be in a study group 1173 00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:14,420 with the poor kids. 1174 00:57:14,420 --> 00:57:16,910 And that's not the impact of being in the study group 1175 00:57:16,910 --> 00:57:18,170 or rather sort of selection. 1176 00:57:18,170 --> 00:57:20,075 It could be that names are different 1177 00:57:20,075 --> 00:57:22,440 or people with different names are different. 1178 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,050 So that's why having this control group is really nice. 1179 00:57:25,050 --> 00:57:26,900 So what we can look at now is to say, 1180 00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:33,200 you can look at kids that have names adjacent to rich students 1181 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,810 and kids that have names adjacent to poor students. 1182 00:57:36,810 --> 00:57:39,095 So if you look at the left side, this 1183 00:57:39,095 --> 00:57:41,060 is essentially looking at students 1184 00:57:41,060 --> 00:57:45,890 that have their names adjacent to rich students only 1185 00:57:45,890 --> 00:57:48,350 or students that have names adjacent to also 1186 00:57:48,350 --> 00:57:49,670 some poor students. 1187 00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:53,460 When you look at that, where the alphabetic order was not used, 1188 00:57:53,460 --> 00:57:55,400 the outcome here is what's your share 1189 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,833 of having poor study partners? 1190 00:57:56,833 --> 00:57:58,250 And so there, essentially, there's 1191 00:57:58,250 --> 00:58:01,490 no difference, as it should be, because the alphabetic order 1192 00:58:01,490 --> 00:58:02,210 was not used. 1193 00:58:02,210 --> 00:58:04,040 There was a shuffling around the kids 1194 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,630 all the time, so it didn't really 1195 00:58:05,630 --> 00:58:07,040 matter what your alphabet was. 1196 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,040 It didn't really matter. 1197 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,370 But crucially, we can still look at the alphabet. 1198 00:58:10,370 --> 00:58:14,787 We can look at kids that have names 1199 00:58:14,787 --> 00:58:16,370 where, Jason, in the alphabet, there's 1200 00:58:16,370 --> 00:58:18,800 only rich kids, rich students. 1201 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,160 Or they can look at kids that have 1202 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,380 names where, adjacent to the alphabets, 1203 00:58:24,380 --> 00:58:25,650 there are poor students. 1204 00:58:25,650 --> 00:58:27,650 And, here you see on the left side of the graph, 1205 00:58:27,650 --> 00:58:31,890 you see essentially no difference across these groups. 1206 00:58:31,890 --> 00:58:35,270 So they were equally likely to have a poor kid in their study 1207 00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:36,200 group. 1208 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,690 In contrast, on the right side of the graph, 1209 00:58:38,690 --> 00:58:45,150 you see the alphabetic order was used to assign study groups. 1210 00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:50,450 So if you had a name adjacent to a poor student in the alphabet, 1211 00:58:50,450 --> 00:58:54,260 you're very, very likely to have a poor kid assigned to you 1212 00:58:54,260 --> 00:58:55,400 or be in your study group. 1213 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,440 Not always because sometimes, these are groups of three. 1214 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,980 So sometimes, you were lucky or unlucky 1215 00:59:00,980 --> 00:59:02,930 depending on how you view it. 1216 00:59:02,930 --> 00:59:06,350 The group was just above you or below you in the alphabet. 1217 00:59:06,350 --> 00:59:07,880 But most of the time, if you have 1218 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,520 a name adjacent to a poor student, that student 1219 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:15,290 or any student would be in your study group. 1220 00:59:15,290 --> 00:59:19,564 If you didn't have a name adjacent to you or f 1221 00:59:19,564 --> 00:59:21,530 you only had rich students adjacent to you, 1222 00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:23,030 there's still a chance that you have 1223 00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:24,380 a poor student in your study group 1224 00:59:24,380 --> 00:59:26,720 because it could be just like not the person next to you 1225 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:31,350 but another person further down is, in fact, a poor student. 1226 00:59:31,350 --> 00:59:33,920 You end up in that group with that student. 1227 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,347 Remember, these are groups of 2 to 4 students. 1228 00:59:36,347 --> 00:59:38,930 So it could just be that you're in a group of 3 to 4 students, 1229 00:59:38,930 --> 00:59:42,230 and not the person adjacent to you but the person after that 1230 00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:44,820 ends up in your study group. 1231 00:59:44,820 --> 00:59:47,570 So you're still likely to have-- 1232 00:59:47,570 --> 00:59:50,570 you have still like about like a 40% chance of having 1233 00:59:50,570 --> 00:59:54,500 a poor kid in your study group. 1234 00:59:54,500 --> 00:59:56,600 But there's a huge difference between the two 1235 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,190 types of groups. 1236 00:59:58,190 --> 01:00:00,710 The name adjacent to the study group 1237 01:00:00,710 --> 01:00:05,330 has a huge fraction, about 90%, versus 40%. 1238 01:00:05,330 --> 01:00:07,520 So crucially, now, we can compare 1239 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,040 for both types of schools, for the schools 1240 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,010 on the right-hand side where, essentially, the names are very 1241 01:00:13,010 --> 01:00:18,200 predictive of having a poor kid in your study group, 1242 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,780 versus on the left-hand side where the names are not 1243 01:00:20,780 --> 01:00:24,920 predicative at all whether you have a poor kid in your study 1244 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:25,680 group. 1245 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,350 And so we can-- 1246 01:00:27,350 --> 01:00:30,260 that way, we can keep selection the same, the types of name 1247 01:00:30,260 --> 01:00:31,040 are the same. 1248 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,080 We are isolating the impact of having 1249 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,540 a poor kid in your study group. 1250 01:00:35,540 --> 01:00:36,920 Now, what does the author find? 1251 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,570 He finds that-- this is what we showed you before, 1252 01:00:39,570 --> 01:00:43,430 which is in the control group, we had about, 1253 01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:46,109 in the dictator game, these kids gave about 27%. 1254 01:00:51,350 --> 01:00:53,060 Having a poor kid in your classroom. 1255 01:00:53,060 --> 01:00:54,977 That's the evidence that I already showed you. 1256 01:00:54,977 --> 01:00:58,980 The treatment effect is about 12 percentage points. 1257 01:00:58,980 --> 01:00:59,940 That's fairly large. 1258 01:00:59,940 --> 01:01:02,900 That's almost like a 50% increase. 1259 01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:04,290 A little bit less than that. 1260 01:01:04,290 --> 01:01:06,620 So that's a huge increase. 1261 01:01:06,620 --> 01:01:08,960 And then in addition, when you look 1262 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:14,330 at kids that have a poor study partner, 1263 01:01:14,330 --> 01:01:16,580 notice that these are things not necessarily additive, 1264 01:01:16,580 --> 01:01:19,220 but if you have a poor study partner versus not, 1265 01:01:19,220 --> 01:01:23,340 there's an effective about 7.5 percentage points. 1266 01:01:23,340 --> 01:01:26,100 That's a pretty large effect. 1267 01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:29,690 So both of these things seem to matter. 1268 01:01:29,690 --> 01:01:32,240 Personal interactions seem to be quite important. 1269 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,890 But in addition, there seem to be also 1270 01:01:33,890 --> 01:01:35,600 some additional effects perhaps coming 1271 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,640 from the classroom level. 1272 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,740 You might-- so there's two types of effects 1273 01:01:39,740 --> 01:01:40,940 that are possible here. 1274 01:01:40,940 --> 01:01:44,030 Some types of effects could be from the teacher, parents, 1275 01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:45,090 curriculum, et cetera. 1276 01:01:45,090 --> 01:01:46,190 Might be different. 1277 01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:47,720 Or other things could be just like, 1278 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,690 even if you don't have a poor kid in your study group, 1279 01:01:50,690 --> 01:01:52,940 you might still play with them or be friends with them 1280 01:01:52,940 --> 01:01:55,880 or just seeing them around in the classroom might affect you. 1281 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,690 But crucially, the personal interactions 1282 01:01:59,690 --> 01:02:03,305 seem to be very important as well. 1283 01:02:03,305 --> 01:02:05,430 Now, one question you might ask is, well, so far, I 1284 01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:08,490 showed you generosity towards poor children. 1285 01:02:08,490 --> 01:02:09,690 So that was game number 1. 1286 01:02:09,690 --> 01:02:14,190 We looked at what happens in the dictator games 1287 01:02:14,190 --> 01:02:16,170 when a rich kid plays with a poor kid 1288 01:02:16,170 --> 01:02:19,810 and the rich kids become nicer towards the poor kids. 1289 01:02:19,810 --> 01:02:23,640 Now, how about generosity towards other wealthy children? 1290 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,000 Well, it turns out that that increases as well. 1291 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,850 So it's a smaller effect size, but it's still substantial, 1292 01:02:29,850 --> 01:02:32,830 and, in fact, statistically significant. 1293 01:02:32,830 --> 01:02:34,230 So why might that be? 1294 01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:37,030 You might sort of ask, well, what's going on here? 1295 01:02:37,030 --> 01:02:38,790 So here's the evidence. 1296 01:02:38,790 --> 01:02:42,130 You sort of see the change in giving to rich participants. 1297 01:02:42,130 --> 01:02:43,630 This is sort of like a distribution. 1298 01:02:43,630 --> 01:02:47,550 You see this is the share giving to the rich participant. 1299 01:02:47,550 --> 01:02:49,013 It seems to be what happens-- 1300 01:02:49,013 --> 01:02:50,430 these are essentially the fraction 1301 01:02:50,430 --> 01:02:53,190 of students in the different treatment versus control 1302 01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:56,760 who give 0%, 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%. 1303 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,850 And what you see-- there is about a 10 percentage points 1304 01:02:59,850 --> 01:03:04,350 decrease in the fraction who give 0% and about 1305 01:03:04,350 --> 01:03:07,110 an 8-something percentage points increase 1306 01:03:07,110 --> 01:03:09,750 in the fraction who give 50%. 1307 01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:12,510 So it seems to be that there's quite a few students who 1308 01:03:12,510 --> 01:03:14,310 move from 0%. 1309 01:03:14,310 --> 01:03:19,830 About 10% of them move from 0% to 50%. 1310 01:03:19,830 --> 01:03:23,400 And 50-50 is kind of like the equal allocation. 1311 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,880 So rich kids also becoming nicer towards rich kids 1312 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,620 in these dictator games. 1313 01:03:28,620 --> 01:03:31,230 So what's going on here? 1314 01:03:31,230 --> 01:03:33,810 There's different potential explanations. 1315 01:03:33,810 --> 01:03:37,590 Perhaps the most plausible explanation-- the study 1316 01:03:37,590 --> 01:03:39,540 has some evidence on that. 1317 01:03:39,540 --> 01:03:42,060 At the end of the day, it's hard to sort of entirely 1318 01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:47,230 nail this or rule out all other potential explanation, 1319 01:03:47,230 --> 01:03:50,160 but it's quite plausible that what's happening here 1320 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,160 is that inequity, students, when you're 1321 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:58,530 exposed to poor children, you are essentially a bit more 1322 01:03:58,530 --> 01:04:05,010 averse to inequality or inequity across people, even in things, 1323 01:04:05,010 --> 01:04:08,610 in fairly trivial things such as dictator games. 1324 01:04:08,610 --> 01:04:11,130 Now, I told you before, that's a little bit funny 1325 01:04:11,130 --> 01:04:13,620 because dictator games obviously are very narrowly 1326 01:04:13,620 --> 01:04:16,710 framing people and looking at essentially very 1327 01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:18,900 narrow outcomes. 1328 01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:22,560 If we have, like, a 50/50 outcome in the dictator game, 1329 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,410 that doesn't mean that our life is the same. 1330 01:04:25,410 --> 01:04:27,660 You might be still much richer than I am. 1331 01:04:27,660 --> 01:04:30,450 So having sort of equal outcomes in the dictator, 1332 01:04:30,450 --> 01:04:32,910 the 50-50 allocation in the dictator game, 1333 01:04:32,910 --> 01:04:35,910 might be narrowly framed, in that particular game, fair. 1334 01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:38,730 But of course, it's not fair in the grand scheme of things. 1335 01:04:38,730 --> 01:04:41,180 But what seems to be the case is that-- 1336 01:04:41,180 --> 01:04:43,230 and there's some other evidence in the paper 1337 01:04:43,230 --> 01:04:45,420 that you can read if you would like. 1338 01:04:45,420 --> 01:04:49,320 It seems to be the case that rich children become 1339 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:53,160 more averse to unequal outcomes in the world in general 1340 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,220 because they essentially see these poor kids who 1341 01:04:56,220 --> 01:04:59,160 are very smart and are disadvantaged 1342 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,190 in terms of various ways from having 1343 01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:03,780 lower wealth of their parents. 1344 01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:06,750 The rich kids become sort of more adverse against that, 1345 01:05:06,750 --> 01:05:09,660 and that translates even into dictator games 1346 01:05:09,660 --> 01:05:13,260 with other rich kids in a very sort of minor thing 1347 01:05:13,260 --> 01:05:15,250 in the world and in these dictator games, 1348 01:05:15,250 --> 01:05:17,250 again, even though these dictator games actually 1349 01:05:17,250 --> 01:05:18,210 don't change very much. 1350 01:05:18,210 --> 01:05:21,550 But they really seem to be averse to inequality 1351 01:05:21,550 --> 01:05:25,650 of these outcomes and move them from the 10-0 allocation 1352 01:05:25,650 --> 01:05:31,910 to 50-50, even with these rich kids. 1353 01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:32,660 OK. 1354 01:05:32,660 --> 01:05:35,240 So that was evidence on social preferences 1355 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,070 as measured by dictator games. 1356 01:05:37,070 --> 01:05:41,120 But people also had some evidence on discrimination. 1357 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,210 In particular, a small field experiment on team selection. 1358 01:05:45,210 --> 01:05:47,390 So what does this study do? 1359 01:05:47,390 --> 01:05:49,790 So its subjects are, again, students 1360 01:05:49,790 --> 01:05:51,660 from two elite private schools. 1361 01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:55,970 So now, it's like two of these selected schools are selected. 1362 01:05:55,970 --> 01:05:57,650 One is a treatment school. 1363 01:05:57,650 --> 01:05:59,060 One is a control group. 1364 01:05:59,060 --> 01:06:03,830 And in addition, Gautam invited athletic poor students 1365 01:06:03,830 --> 01:06:04,790 from a public school. 1366 01:06:04,790 --> 01:06:07,280 Importantly, he said, athletic students-- these 1367 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,240 are students who are better at sports than the rich kids. 1368 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,990 You might think the poorer kids are better 1369 01:06:11,990 --> 01:06:14,940 at sports than the rich kids anyway, which is probably true. 1370 01:06:14,940 --> 01:06:18,380 But now, these are particularly athletic students on purpose 1371 01:06:18,380 --> 01:06:22,940 who are invited to attend a sports event as well. 1372 01:06:22,940 --> 01:06:25,920 Now, students in this experiment, in this game, 1373 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,570 must choose teammates to run a relay race. 1374 01:06:29,570 --> 01:06:35,480 Now, when you're a rich kid who is thinking about who 1375 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,310 should be in my team, you can either 1376 01:06:37,310 --> 01:06:41,780 choose a rich kid who is kind of like similar to you 1377 01:06:41,780 --> 01:06:46,730 in social ways, or you can choose a poor kid 1378 01:06:46,730 --> 01:06:48,110 who you don't know very much. 1379 01:06:48,110 --> 01:06:50,660 You might actually not like the poor kids. 1380 01:06:50,660 --> 01:06:54,840 But the poor kid is a lot better in the running, 1381 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,990 so it might be much better for you. 1382 01:06:56,990 --> 01:06:59,150 You might be much more likely to win in the game 1383 01:06:59,150 --> 01:07:02,190 because now your partner in the relay race is much faster. 1384 01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:04,520 So it's a very nice trade-off between ability-- 1385 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,960 choosing the fast runner versus social similarity. 1386 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,440 And now, what Gautam then is doing 1387 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,340 is like, if you sort of choose the rich kid, that's 1388 01:07:16,340 --> 01:07:19,430 then a measure of discrimination because essentially, you're 1389 01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:23,870 choosing a worse runner in favor of 1390 01:07:23,870 --> 01:07:26,660 or because you want more social similarity. 1391 01:07:26,660 --> 01:07:28,820 You don't want to hang out with a poor kid. 1392 01:07:28,820 --> 01:07:30,680 Instead, you choose the rich kid, 1393 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,990 which reduces your chances in the race 1394 01:07:32,990 --> 01:07:36,350 but increases your time spent with the rich kids 1395 01:07:36,350 --> 01:07:38,360 compared to poor kids. 1396 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,900 Let me tell you a little bit more detail of the experiment. 1397 01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:43,220 Stage 1 is randomization. 1398 01:07:43,220 --> 01:07:47,810 So the people were randomized to sessions with varying stakes. 1399 01:07:47,810 --> 01:07:53,630 There's 50 rupees, 20 rupees, 500 rupees per student 1400 01:07:53,630 --> 01:07:55,340 for the winning team. 1401 01:07:55,340 --> 01:07:58,300 This is a lot of money compared to students usual pocket money, 1402 01:07:58,300 --> 01:07:58,800 right? 1403 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,450 So they would get something like $10 or 500 rupees 1404 01:08:02,450 --> 01:08:04,690 is like one month's of pocket money. 1405 01:08:04,690 --> 01:08:07,370 So that's really high stakes for these kids. 1406 01:08:07,370 --> 01:08:09,140 The price is varied, essentially, 1407 01:08:09,140 --> 01:08:10,760 because it lets us price out. 1408 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,770 It gives us a price of discrimination. 1409 01:08:12,770 --> 01:08:15,620 Lets us understand how much are students willing to give up 1410 01:08:15,620 --> 01:08:19,500 in order to not have to-- 1411 01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:23,450 or in order to be able to socialize with the rich kids 1412 01:08:23,450 --> 01:08:24,890 compared to the poor kid. 1413 01:08:24,890 --> 01:08:28,250 There was a brief mixing to start with to judge 1414 01:08:28,250 --> 01:08:30,170 socioeconomic status. 1415 01:08:30,170 --> 01:08:32,810 So the kids were allowed to mingle a little bit. 1416 01:08:32,810 --> 01:08:36,050 That would allow them to fairly easily understand 1417 01:08:36,050 --> 01:08:39,109 who was a poor kid and who's a rich kid. 1418 01:08:39,109 --> 01:08:40,069 OK. 1419 01:08:40,069 --> 01:08:43,670 Stage number 2 was ability revelation and team selection. 1420 01:08:43,670 --> 01:08:47,029 So you could essentially observe a two-person race. 1421 01:08:47,029 --> 01:08:49,850 Usually, it's one poor and one rich students. 1422 01:08:49,850 --> 01:08:51,283 Neither is from the old school. 1423 01:08:51,283 --> 01:08:52,700 So these are not students that you 1424 01:08:52,700 --> 01:08:56,540 would know from school anyway. 1425 01:08:56,540 --> 01:08:59,149 But the uniforms make the school identifiable. 1426 01:08:59,149 --> 01:09:01,819 You kind of know who is the rich kid and who's the poor kid. 1427 01:09:01,819 --> 01:09:05,029 Now, then you can pick which of these two runners 1428 01:09:05,029 --> 01:09:07,140 you want to have as your partners. 1429 01:09:07,140 --> 01:09:10,939 So that is to say you see them run one by one. 1430 01:09:10,939 --> 01:09:13,609 It's very easy to see who's faster and who's not. 1431 01:09:13,609 --> 01:09:15,290 And so again, discrimination here 1432 01:09:15,290 --> 01:09:18,600 is interpreted as picking the slow runner. 1433 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,189 So if you pick the slower runner, 1434 01:09:22,189 --> 01:09:25,370 then it must be because you like something 1435 01:09:25,370 --> 01:09:28,250 some other characteristics about that person more. 1436 01:09:28,250 --> 01:09:29,840 The obvious characteristic here is 1437 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:34,380 that it's most likely going to be that kid is rich. 1438 01:09:34,380 --> 01:09:35,250 OK. 1439 01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:41,189 Then stages 3 and 4 are the choice implementation 1440 01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:42,270 relay race. 1441 01:09:42,270 --> 01:09:43,896 So students are randomly picked to have 1442 01:09:43,896 --> 01:09:44,979 their choices implemented. 1443 01:09:44,979 --> 01:09:46,260 So some of those choices-- 1444 01:09:46,260 --> 01:09:48,029 this is, again, the strategy method. 1445 01:09:48,029 --> 01:09:50,790 Some of these choices were actually randomly implemented. 1446 01:09:50,790 --> 01:09:54,660 So there's plausible deniability for the students 1447 01:09:54,660 --> 01:10:01,440 in the sense of you could just happen to be randomized 1448 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:05,520 or you happen to pick some students versus another. 1449 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,080 It could just be by chance that you 1450 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,058 are with one student versus another. 1451 01:10:09,058 --> 01:10:11,100 So you could-- your freedom to choose essentially 1452 01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:12,030 provide you cover. 1453 01:10:12,030 --> 01:10:14,070 Sometimes, as we discussed before, 1454 01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:16,380 the computer is choosing, so you always have an excuse. 1455 01:10:16,380 --> 01:10:20,280 So it's intended to reveal student's true preferences as 1456 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,140 opposed to perhaps what they think 1457 01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:26,190 that their friends want them to choose or the other runners. 1458 01:10:26,190 --> 01:10:28,020 Then the relay races were actually held 1459 01:10:28,020 --> 01:10:30,630 and prizes were distributed as promised. 1460 01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:34,840 Number 4, crucially, there was a social interaction. 1461 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,770 So if you picked your teammate, you actually 1462 01:10:37,770 --> 01:10:40,980 had to spend two hours of playing with a teammate. 1463 01:10:40,980 --> 01:10:43,930 Board games, sports, playgrounds, and so on. 1464 01:10:43,930 --> 01:10:45,690 Importantly, this was preannounce. 1465 01:10:45,690 --> 01:10:49,680 So now, again, as I said before, when picking your partner, 1466 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,350 you have the choice between either picking 1467 01:10:52,350 --> 01:10:55,230 the fast, poor kid, which will really 1468 01:10:55,230 --> 01:10:57,960 increase your probability of winning, 1469 01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,820 or the rich kid, who is kind of slow 1470 01:10:59,820 --> 01:11:03,240 and will reduce your probability of winning. 1471 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,670 But if you pick that poor kid or the rich kid, 1472 01:11:05,670 --> 01:11:08,850 you have to actually spend two hours with that teammate 1473 01:11:08,850 --> 01:11:11,370 playing board games, sports, playground, and so on, 1474 01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:16,540 and you might not want to do that with a poor kid. 1475 01:11:16,540 --> 01:11:17,380 OK. 1476 01:11:17,380 --> 01:11:21,310 So now, first, what is the demand for discrimination? 1477 01:11:21,310 --> 01:11:22,660 You can look at this graph. 1478 01:11:22,660 --> 01:11:25,330 It shows very nicely for the different prices. 1479 01:11:25,330 --> 01:11:28,840 As I said, 500 rupees for winning the race, 200 rupees, 1480 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,340 or 500 rupees. 1481 01:11:30,340 --> 01:11:32,440 If you look at 500 rupees, this is again 1482 01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:34,120 one months of pocket money. 1483 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,430 There's no difference between treated and untreated 1484 01:11:36,430 --> 01:11:37,190 classrooms. 1485 01:11:37,190 --> 01:11:38,800 That is to say-- 1486 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,560 so there's 10% of people are, as you 1487 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:42,820 want, discriminating the poor. 1488 01:11:42,820 --> 01:11:48,820 So this is less than 10% is about 7%, 8% of students 1489 01:11:48,820 --> 01:11:55,120 pick the rich kids, even in the really, really high stakes 1490 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:55,870 race. 1491 01:11:55,870 --> 01:11:58,360 That is to say, when the stakes are 500 rupees, 1492 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,970 there are, like, about 6%, 7%, 8% 1493 01:12:00,970 --> 01:12:04,210 of students who still pick the rich kids, 1494 01:12:04,210 --> 01:12:06,130 and they sort of take into account 1495 01:12:06,130 --> 01:12:11,800 the chance that that might lose them the race. 1496 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:16,450 But they don't have to spend two hours with a poor kid then 1497 01:12:16,450 --> 01:12:17,710 socializing. 1498 01:12:17,710 --> 01:12:20,560 Now, when you look at the lower prices, the fraction, 1499 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,020 as you expect-- this is the red line. 1500 01:12:23,020 --> 01:12:25,960 Sorry, this is the green line, the upper line. 1501 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,270 The fraction who choose the rich kids, 1502 01:12:28,270 --> 01:12:29,770 the fraction who were discriminating 1503 01:12:29,770 --> 01:12:33,360 against the poor, increases as you expect. 1504 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,200 So now, it becomes cheaper. 1505 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,990 The race is only 200 rupees or 50 rupees. 1506 01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:41,110 You might be more inclined to pick the rich kid because you 1507 01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:43,510 know the value of socializing stays the same, 1508 01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:45,520 but the costs of picking the rich kid, 1509 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,680 the cost of losing the race, potentially 1510 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,760 at least is reduced. 1511 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,620 If you look at 50 rupees, the price 1512 01:12:53,620 --> 01:12:59,890 of 50 rupees for the game, for the relay race, that's 1513 01:12:59,890 --> 01:13:03,460 about almost 40% of students now pick the rich kid, 1514 01:13:03,460 --> 01:13:05,650 even though that might lose them the race. 1515 01:13:05,650 --> 01:13:09,400 And now, crucially, in red, the dashed line 1516 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,920 below, you can see the treated classrooms. 1517 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,860 And what he finds is that for 500 rupees, when 1518 01:13:14,860 --> 01:13:17,518 the stakes are really, really high, there's no effect. 1519 01:13:17,518 --> 01:13:19,060 Essentially, it doesn't really matter 1520 01:13:19,060 --> 01:13:21,393 whether you are in a treated or a not treated classroom, 1521 01:13:21,393 --> 01:13:25,060 in part perhaps because there's not much room for going lower 1522 01:13:25,060 --> 01:13:25,940 than that. 1523 01:13:25,940 --> 01:13:29,382 So essentially, there's no effect on there 1524 01:13:29,382 --> 01:13:31,840 because you know the stakes are really, really high anyway. 1525 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,460 There's not much discrimination. 1526 01:13:33,460 --> 01:13:35,555 And having had a treated-- 1527 01:13:35,555 --> 01:13:37,180 having had a poor kid in your classroom 1528 01:13:37,180 --> 01:13:39,220 doesn't really change that. 1529 01:13:39,220 --> 01:13:42,820 But then, very clearly, for 250 rupees and 50 rupees, the lower 1530 01:13:42,820 --> 01:13:45,670 stakes, there's a clear difference 1531 01:13:45,670 --> 01:13:48,050 between the green and the red lines. 1532 01:13:48,050 --> 01:13:51,400 That is to say, there's a lot less discrimination 1533 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,780 towards the poor kids. 1534 01:13:52,780 --> 01:13:54,970 Poor kids are a lot more likely to be 1535 01:13:54,970 --> 01:14:00,430 chosen when a student has-- in treated classrooms 1536 01:14:00,430 --> 01:14:03,070 when somebody had a poor kid, another poor kid 1537 01:14:03,070 --> 01:14:05,480 in that classroom for several years. 1538 01:14:05,480 --> 01:14:07,840 So that's to say there's-- 1539 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,880 being exposed to these poor children 1540 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:14,740 reduces discrimination among the poor among the rich students 1541 01:14:14,740 --> 01:14:15,520 subsequently. 1542 01:14:18,260 --> 01:14:20,723 This is sort of the same graph that I showed you before. 1543 01:14:20,723 --> 01:14:23,140 Again, that's sort of consistent with what we have before. 1544 01:14:23,140 --> 01:14:26,170 It gets a little messier than we had seen previously. 1545 01:14:26,170 --> 01:14:29,440 But similarly, even within classrooms, 1546 01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:33,520 if you look at grades 2 and 3 versus 4 and 5, 1547 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,250 the effects seem to be concentrated more 1548 01:14:36,250 --> 01:14:40,680 pronounced in grades 2 and 3. 1549 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:46,290 Now, finally, as I said, we look at test scores and discipline. 1550 01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:48,390 So arguably, there are some positive effects 1551 01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:49,590 on social preferences. 1552 01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:53,040 And as I said before, the policy question now is, 1553 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,950 does that come at the cost of academic achievement 1554 01:14:55,950 --> 01:14:57,070 in some ways? 1555 01:14:57,070 --> 01:14:59,520 So is it that the rich kid now, by being exposed 1556 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,010 to the poor kids, may be somewhat nicer and more 1557 01:15:02,010 --> 01:15:05,460 friendly and less discriminating against the poor? 1558 01:15:05,460 --> 01:15:06,330 That's all and good. 1559 01:15:06,330 --> 01:15:09,960 But is it the case now that test scores go down? 1560 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,250 So Gautam finds no effect on aggregate test score index 1561 01:15:14,250 --> 01:15:16,440 or zero effect in Hindi and math. 1562 01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:22,230 There's a little bit of a reduction in English scores 1563 01:15:22,230 --> 01:15:25,320 of 0.9 standard deviations. 1564 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,480 That's marginally significant. 1565 01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:34,810 That's suggestive but not perhaps particularly large. 1566 01:15:34,810 --> 01:15:36,807 So these effects are not particularly large. 1567 01:15:36,807 --> 01:15:39,390 And in particular, in aggregate, so if you agree to everything 1568 01:15:39,390 --> 01:15:43,350 together, there don't seem to be any significant effects. 1569 01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:47,550 So perhaps the English scores are suggestive but sort of not 1570 01:15:47,550 --> 01:15:48,870 particularly large. 1571 01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:51,000 There's some mild effect on discipline. 1572 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,980 Interestingly, there's an increase in swearing. 1573 01:15:52,980 --> 01:15:54,188 You think that's good or bad. 1574 01:15:54,188 --> 01:15:55,260 You can think about that. 1575 01:15:55,260 --> 01:15:58,710 But there seems to be a little bit of an effect in terms 1576 01:15:58,710 --> 01:16:01,620 of language uses. 1577 01:16:01,620 --> 01:16:04,020 There's no effect on violent and disruptive behavior, 1578 01:16:04,020 --> 01:16:11,200 which you might think is a lot more damaging, potentially. 1579 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:11,860 OK. 1580 01:16:11,860 --> 01:16:14,230 So just summarizing, what does the paper find? 1581 01:16:14,230 --> 01:16:17,260 Well, having poor classmates makes wealthy students 1582 01:16:17,260 --> 01:16:19,180 more prosocial and generous. 1583 01:16:19,180 --> 01:16:22,385 They're more likely to volunteer for charities. 1584 01:16:22,385 --> 01:16:24,760 I didn't show you that evidence, but that's another piece 1585 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,110 of evidence that he finds. 1586 01:16:26,110 --> 01:16:29,500 They're more likely to give in money in dictator games 1587 01:16:29,500 --> 01:16:32,500 to give them more higher fractions of their shares 1588 01:16:32,500 --> 01:16:33,820 in dictator games. 1589 01:16:33,820 --> 01:16:37,940 They also choose more equitable outcomes 1590 01:16:37,940 --> 01:16:41,890 in sort of disinterested third party games 1591 01:16:41,890 --> 01:16:45,730 where essentially, you choose between two other students 1592 01:16:45,730 --> 01:16:47,073 and their allocation. 1593 01:16:47,073 --> 01:16:48,490 So it's not just that they're more 1594 01:16:48,490 --> 01:16:51,310 likely to be willing to give up money that others get, 1595 01:16:51,310 --> 01:16:55,390 but also, they're more likely to choose equal allocations 1596 01:16:55,390 --> 01:16:57,845 in third party games and disinterested games. 1597 01:16:57,845 --> 01:16:59,470 Again, I didn't show you that evidence. 1598 01:16:59,470 --> 01:17:01,870 But it seems to be that what's increasing here 1599 01:17:01,870 --> 01:17:04,780 is sort of like inequality aversion 1600 01:17:04,780 --> 01:17:11,290 in these sort of disinterested dictator or the types of games, 1601 01:17:11,290 --> 01:17:14,080 where essentially, these students, by being exposed 1602 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:19,420 to poor kids, are now more averse against unequal outcomes 1603 01:17:19,420 --> 01:17:21,130 in these types of games. 1604 01:17:21,130 --> 01:17:23,710 Second, there is less discrimination 1605 01:17:23,710 --> 01:17:27,640 and more higher willingness to socialize with the poor. 1606 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,300 They're more likely to choose poor teammates 1607 01:17:31,300 --> 01:17:32,830 in sports contests. 1608 01:17:32,830 --> 01:17:34,810 They're also more willing to attend playdates 1609 01:17:34,810 --> 01:17:35,650 with poor children. 1610 01:17:35,650 --> 01:17:38,200 Again, I didn't show you that evidence. 1611 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,600 And then there's some small, negative effect 1612 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:46,960 on academic outcomes that I think are mostly negligible. 1613 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,230 Now, there's other work on the contact hypothesis 1614 01:17:50,230 --> 01:17:50,980 that I showed you. 1615 01:17:50,980 --> 01:17:53,470 So the contact-- what is the contact hypothesis? 1616 01:17:53,470 --> 01:17:57,190 The contact hypothesis goes back to at least Allport 1617 01:17:57,190 --> 01:18:01,600 in 1954, which is the idea that interpersonal contacts 1618 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,020 reduces prejudice until certain conditions. 1619 01:18:05,020 --> 01:18:08,290 And not just prejudice, but also changes 1620 01:18:08,290 --> 01:18:11,440 attitudes and social preferences potentially. 1621 01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:14,290 So Matt Lowe, who was a PhD student here at MIT, 1622 01:18:14,290 --> 01:18:17,680 has a very nice paper that looks at cricket tournaments 1623 01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,950 and asks the question whether cricket leagues in India 1624 01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:25,900 can increase cross-class interaction in pro-sociology. 1625 01:18:25,900 --> 01:18:28,810 So what he does is he randomizes, essentially, 1626 01:18:28,810 --> 01:18:31,300 cricket leagues and teams in cricket leagues 1627 01:18:31,300 --> 01:18:33,370 where people across different castes 1628 01:18:33,370 --> 01:18:36,710 are now more or less likely to play with each other, 1629 01:18:36,710 --> 01:18:39,790 both in terms of-- he varies or there's variation 1630 01:18:39,790 --> 01:18:42,010 in the study within teams. 1631 01:18:42,010 --> 01:18:44,080 So are you more or less likely to have 1632 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,780 a-- or some people are more or less likely to have 1633 01:18:46,780 --> 01:18:48,640 a lower or higher caste. 1634 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,550 So a person from a different cast in their team. 1635 01:18:51,550 --> 01:18:55,870 And he has variation in what he calls adversarial contact, 1636 01:18:55,870 --> 01:19:00,850 which is they're more or less likely to be exposed to players 1637 01:19:00,850 --> 01:19:04,450 from other teams in higher or different castes 1638 01:19:04,450 --> 01:19:05,840 from themselves. 1639 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,770 So if you're on the team and have a person 1640 01:19:08,770 --> 01:19:11,500 from a different caste on your team, you're on the same team. 1641 01:19:11,500 --> 01:19:15,170 You share the same objective, and you want to win together. 1642 01:19:15,170 --> 01:19:17,410 So now, having somebody from a different caste 1643 01:19:17,410 --> 01:19:20,230 or just somebody who's different in various ways in your team 1644 01:19:20,230 --> 01:19:23,620 might make you like them better. 1645 01:19:23,620 --> 01:19:26,500 You might be sort of more positive about them. 1646 01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:28,900 You might be sort of more likely to talk to them. 1647 01:19:28,900 --> 01:19:30,233 You might learn about them. 1648 01:19:30,233 --> 01:19:31,900 You might sort of see some sides in them 1649 01:19:31,900 --> 01:19:33,245 that you hadn't seen before. 1650 01:19:33,245 --> 01:19:35,620 So you might be more like they sort of empathize and look 1651 01:19:35,620 --> 01:19:37,300 at sort of nice characteristic of them 1652 01:19:37,300 --> 01:19:39,790 and sort of update them positively about people 1653 01:19:39,790 --> 01:19:42,910 from other tasks, and that changes your attitudes 1654 01:19:42,910 --> 01:19:45,340 towards them in general. 1655 01:19:45,340 --> 01:19:48,737 If, however, you play against somebody from different castes, 1656 01:19:48,737 --> 01:19:51,070 you might, actually-- that might, actually, if anything, 1657 01:19:51,070 --> 01:19:54,790 backfire, because you really don't like your opponents. 1658 01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:56,260 You might see them very negatively. 1659 01:19:56,260 --> 01:19:57,802 You might be aggressive towards them. 1660 01:19:57,802 --> 01:19:59,620 You might be unfriendly towards them. 1661 01:19:59,620 --> 01:20:01,660 You might sort of not like that they 1662 01:20:01,660 --> 01:20:03,320 win against you or the like. 1663 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,190 So I'll just add, these adversarial interactions 1664 01:20:06,190 --> 01:20:07,990 might actually backfire in the sense 1665 01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:09,760 that they might not foster integration 1666 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,900 but actually sort of make things worse. 1667 01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:21,490 So Matt runs this experiment and finds evidence of increased 1668 01:20:21,490 --> 01:20:22,820 cross-caste interactions. 1669 01:20:22,820 --> 01:20:25,810 So people are more likely to be friends, more likely 1670 01:20:25,810 --> 01:20:27,280 to hang out with others. 1671 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,850 They also are more generous in dictator and other types 1672 01:20:30,850 --> 01:20:31,870 of games. 1673 01:20:31,870 --> 01:20:35,980 They also are more likely to engage in trade 1674 01:20:35,980 --> 01:20:37,630 or in economic exchange. 1675 01:20:37,630 --> 01:20:40,390 So what Matt does is he sort of randomizes gloves. 1676 01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:42,490 It's like left gloves and right gloves. 1677 01:20:42,490 --> 01:20:43,990 And he does the same for flip-flops. 1678 01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:46,360 Left flip-flops and right flip-flops. 1679 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,120 And people are more likely to trade with somebody 1680 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:53,300 from another caste if they ever been on the same team 1681 01:20:53,300 --> 01:20:54,550 with people from other castes. 1682 01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:56,217 If they have a higher fraction of people 1683 01:20:56,217 --> 01:21:00,610 on their team of people from other castes, 1684 01:21:00,610 --> 01:21:03,400 they're more likely to engage in all these behaviors. 1685 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,710 They're more likely to have cross-class interaction. 1686 01:21:05,710 --> 01:21:07,690 More likely to be prosocial. 1687 01:21:07,690 --> 01:21:10,060 More likely to engage in economic exchange 1688 01:21:10,060 --> 01:21:13,110 with people from other castes. 1689 01:21:13,110 --> 01:21:17,270 So that's all true for collaborative contact. 1690 01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:21,470 That is to say, that's contact with people on the same team. 1691 01:21:21,470 --> 01:21:24,470 In contrast, for adversarial interactions, when people 1692 01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:28,460 are on the opposite team, having more people from other castes 1693 01:21:28,460 --> 01:21:31,730 or being exposed to more people from other castes 1694 01:21:31,730 --> 01:21:33,860 does not have these positive effects 1695 01:21:33,860 --> 01:21:36,630 and, for some of these outcomes, have even negative effects. 1696 01:21:36,630 --> 01:21:38,660 So if anything, that sort of backfires. 1697 01:21:38,660 --> 01:21:42,050 It doesn't-- just-- a mere exposure to others, 1698 01:21:42,050 --> 01:21:45,320 if you are sort of in an adversarial contact situation, 1699 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:49,580 does not really foster prosociology or any of these 1700 01:21:49,580 --> 01:21:50,930 types of integration. 1701 01:21:50,930 --> 01:21:52,970 If anything, it backfires. 1702 01:21:52,970 --> 01:21:54,188 Now, why is that important? 1703 01:21:54,188 --> 01:21:55,730 If you think about like, for example, 1704 01:21:55,730 --> 01:21:58,280 attitudes towards immigrants, it really 1705 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,670 matters hugely what types of contacts people are exposed to. 1706 01:22:01,670 --> 01:22:04,880 If people have worked together in the same team, if they have, 1707 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:09,440 perhaps, team pay, if they were to work towards the same goal, 1708 01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:11,990 really, it seems this evidence suggests 1709 01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:15,260 can foster prosociology and so on and so forth 1710 01:22:15,260 --> 01:22:18,590 that leads to integration, reduce discrimination, 1711 01:22:18,590 --> 01:22:19,980 and so on and so forth. 1712 01:22:19,980 --> 01:22:22,010 So it's sort of the incentives are aligned 1713 01:22:22,010 --> 01:22:25,010 or if you could sort of set up incentives that are aligned, 1714 01:22:25,010 --> 01:22:26,990 people might become nicer to each other 1715 01:22:26,990 --> 01:22:31,040 and interactions might be fostered. 1716 01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,248 In contrast, if contact is adversarial, 1717 01:22:34,248 --> 01:22:36,290 if you're worried that immigrants are taking away 1718 01:22:36,290 --> 01:22:39,410 your jobs, being exposed to immigrants 1719 01:22:39,410 --> 01:22:41,240 might just do the opposite. 1720 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,010 So you might see a lot of immigrants. 1721 01:22:43,010 --> 01:22:44,840 But in a way, if you feel like you're 1722 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,910 in computation with them, if they're adversarial, 1723 01:22:46,910 --> 01:22:49,010 if they're sort of your enemies in some ways 1724 01:22:49,010 --> 01:22:54,440 or your opponents in some computation for a job, 1725 01:22:54,440 --> 01:22:59,300 being exposed to them might things, in fact, if anything, 1726 01:22:59,300 --> 01:23:01,650 worse. 1727 01:23:01,650 --> 01:23:04,790 Finally, there's another piece of very nice evidence 1728 01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:06,470 by Corno et al. 1729 01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:09,710 This paper is considering the impact 1730 01:23:09,710 --> 01:23:11,750 of random interracial interactions 1731 01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:16,850 among college roommates in South Africa on stereotypes, 1732 01:23:16,850 --> 01:23:19,470 attitudes, and performance. 1733 01:23:19,470 --> 01:23:21,230 So what they look at, essentially, 1734 01:23:21,230 --> 01:23:26,820 is roommates of different race reduces-- 1735 01:23:26,820 --> 01:23:28,460 so these are black and white students-- 1736 01:23:28,460 --> 01:23:31,880 reduces white students stereotypes towards blacks 1737 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,360 and increases interracial friendships. 1738 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,410 It also improves grades and lowers dropouts among blacks. 1739 01:23:39,410 --> 01:23:42,740 So there's sort of a number of positive effects 1740 01:23:42,740 --> 01:23:46,670 of a very simple policy of increasing 1741 01:23:46,670 --> 01:23:48,770 contacts among roommates. 1742 01:23:48,770 --> 01:23:50,783 And again, if you think about this evidence, 1743 01:23:50,783 --> 01:23:53,450 it seems to suggest that perhaps that's kind of like if you have 1744 01:23:53,450 --> 01:23:56,090 a roommate that you're going to live with for quite 1745 01:23:56,090 --> 01:23:58,978 a while, that feels a lot like collaborative contact 1746 01:23:58,978 --> 01:24:00,770 in the sense of, like, you're sort of stuck 1747 01:24:00,770 --> 01:24:02,312 with that roommate for quite a while, 1748 01:24:02,312 --> 01:24:05,030 so you might as well sort make the best out of it, 1749 01:24:05,030 --> 01:24:07,103 even if you initially don't like that person 1750 01:24:07,103 --> 01:24:09,770 and you have the same objectives of being happy together, living 1751 01:24:09,770 --> 01:24:10,460 together. 1752 01:24:10,460 --> 01:24:12,530 And that really seems to foster and have 1753 01:24:12,530 --> 01:24:14,570 some positive benefits. 1754 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,760 So taking together, that sort of says, so A, 1755 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,270 the contact hypothesis seems to be broadly right. 1756 01:24:24,270 --> 01:24:27,480 Contact to people who are different from you 1757 01:24:27,480 --> 01:24:31,195 might make you more tolerant or more prosocial towards them. 1758 01:24:31,195 --> 01:24:32,820 There might be more sort of integration 1759 01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:34,180 of different groups. 1760 01:24:34,180 --> 01:24:36,180 But what really seems to matter quite a bit 1761 01:24:36,180 --> 01:24:40,890 is the type of contact that people are exposed to. 1762 01:24:40,890 --> 01:24:43,170 So finally and relatively quickly, 1763 01:24:43,170 --> 01:24:45,840 I'll tell you a little bit about whether people underestimate 1764 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,850 the benefits of prosociology. 1765 01:24:47,850 --> 01:24:50,910 I should mention that problem set 1766 01:24:50,910 --> 01:24:54,960 3 question 2 is, in fact, trying to ask you to do something 1767 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,220 related to that. 1768 01:24:56,220 --> 01:24:58,470 So you might want to actually do the problems at first 1769 01:24:58,470 --> 01:25:00,280 before you finish this lecture. 1770 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,280 At least sort of-- sorry, not the entire problem 1771 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,670 set, but question 2 of problems set 3. 1772 01:25:05,670 --> 01:25:09,810 That will not take you very long to do so, 1773 01:25:09,810 --> 01:25:11,310 and it's more like a fun exercise 1774 01:25:11,310 --> 01:25:15,460 that I thought would be nice for you to engage in. 1775 01:25:15,460 --> 01:25:20,670 But anyway, this is a very nice paper by Kumar and Epley. 1776 01:25:20,670 --> 01:25:22,200 That's a typo here. 1777 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,230 It should say Kumar and Epley. 1778 01:25:25,230 --> 01:25:27,660 And the officer is asked the question about, 1779 01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:32,110 do we have correct beliefs about the impacts of generosity? 1780 01:25:32,110 --> 01:25:34,260 And so what's the underlying reason here is, 1781 01:25:34,260 --> 01:25:37,710 well, many prosocial acts require estimating the impacts 1782 01:25:37,710 --> 01:25:39,150 on the recipient. 1783 01:25:39,150 --> 01:25:41,400 If you give money to somebody in Africa, 1784 01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:46,800 if you help anybody and people in need, if you donate money 1785 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,860 in general, if you write letters of gratitude 1786 01:25:50,860 --> 01:25:53,100 or if you do random acts of kindness, 1787 01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:55,970 it requires some sort of estimation of, 1788 01:25:55,970 --> 01:26:01,140 how is the other person going to feel if they receive-- 1789 01:26:01,140 --> 01:26:04,380 if they are on the receiving end of this prosocial act? 1790 01:26:04,380 --> 01:26:06,750 Now, what Epley and Kumar argue is 1791 01:26:06,750 --> 01:26:10,710 people are subject to egocentric bias, which 1792 01:26:10,710 --> 01:26:13,290 may lead them to systematically underestimate 1793 01:26:13,290 --> 01:26:15,390 the positive impact of prosociology. 1794 01:26:15,390 --> 01:26:18,960 In this case, gratitude letters. 1795 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,040 And so why is that? 1796 01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,130 Well, it's because predicting others mental states is 1797 01:26:23,130 --> 01:26:27,090 difficult. It's really hard for people 1798 01:26:27,090 --> 01:26:29,640 to understand how another person might feel. 1799 01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,710 Usually, people would sort think about themselves 1800 01:26:31,710 --> 01:26:35,590 and sort think about how would I feel, and what would things be, 1801 01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:36,690 and how are things like. 1802 01:26:36,690 --> 01:26:42,100 And it's very hard to understand how others might react to you. 1803 01:26:42,100 --> 01:26:43,890 It sort of requires perspective taking, 1804 01:26:43,890 --> 01:26:48,300 and that's sometimes tricky for people to do. 1805 01:26:48,300 --> 01:26:50,790 So this is again a very nice experiment 1806 01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:54,390 by Kumar and Nicholas Epley. 1807 01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:57,300 Not Nicholas last name, but Nicholas Epley. 1808 01:26:57,300 --> 01:27:00,630 And they test whether people misunderstand the consequences 1809 01:27:00,630 --> 01:27:02,530 of showing appreciation. 1810 01:27:02,530 --> 01:27:04,410 And so what are these experiments? 1811 01:27:04,410 --> 01:27:06,510 There's a series of experiments that look at this. 1812 01:27:06,510 --> 01:27:07,830 What do they look like? 1813 01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:10,920 But what they do is they ask people, 1814 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:14,280 MBA students or subjects in experiments, 1815 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:15,900 to pick a prosocial act. 1816 01:27:15,900 --> 01:27:18,990 That's writing a gratitude letter, for example. 1817 01:27:18,990 --> 01:27:22,603 And then ask how the giver and the recipient will be affected. 1818 01:27:22,603 --> 01:27:25,020 In some cases, it's only the recipient, and in some cases, 1819 01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:27,300 also the giver. 1820 01:27:27,300 --> 01:27:30,580 Then they perform the prosocial act by, for example, 1821 01:27:30,580 --> 01:27:32,350 writing a letter of gratitude. 1822 01:27:32,350 --> 01:27:34,290 And then assess how the giver under recipients 1823 01:27:34,290 --> 01:27:36,850 were actually affected by doing that. 1824 01:27:36,850 --> 01:27:38,970 And then you can compare that to item number 2. 1825 01:27:38,970 --> 01:27:42,750 To the estimation x ante. 1826 01:27:42,750 --> 01:27:44,130 Now, what do they find? 1827 01:27:44,130 --> 01:27:47,548 They find clear evidence that when you look at, 1828 01:27:47,548 --> 01:27:49,590 like, in particular, when you look at the giver-- 1829 01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:53,670 so these graphs all show kind of the predicted ratings. 1830 01:27:53,670 --> 01:27:59,700 The ratings is between 0 and 10 about what's the experience? 1831 01:27:59,700 --> 01:28:02,070 How happy is the other person? 1832 01:28:02,070 --> 01:28:05,820 What is the surprise about receiving this letter 1833 01:28:05,820 --> 01:28:07,630 of gratitude in this example? 1834 01:28:07,630 --> 01:28:10,200 So people are more surprised than predicted. 1835 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,300 They are also more surprised about the content 1836 01:28:12,300 --> 01:28:15,180 than predicted. 1837 01:28:15,180 --> 01:28:17,550 They're also-- the recipients mood 1838 01:28:17,550 --> 01:28:19,830 is actually better than predicted. 1839 01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:23,670 And the awkwardness is also better than predicted. 1840 01:28:23,670 --> 01:28:26,760 So when you ask people to write letters of gratitude, 1841 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,640 people tend to say, oh, you know, 1842 01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:33,810 it's going to be tedious to do, and the other person 1843 01:28:33,810 --> 01:28:35,550 might feel it's awkward. 1844 01:28:35,550 --> 01:28:37,210 And what am I going to say? 1845 01:28:37,210 --> 01:28:39,330 And is it going to be weird when I'm going to say? 1846 01:28:39,330 --> 01:28:41,850 Is the person-- don't they know already 1847 01:28:41,850 --> 01:28:45,360 anyway that I'm really appreciate of that person? 1848 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:46,330 And so on. 1849 01:28:46,330 --> 01:28:49,830 So people come up with all sorts of reasons why they might not 1850 01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:50,910 want to do that. 1851 01:28:50,910 --> 01:28:53,580 If you sort of introspect and ask yourself how many letters 1852 01:28:53,580 --> 01:28:57,930 of gratitude have you written in the last year, that doesn't-- 1853 01:28:57,930 --> 01:29:00,510 few people actually do that in practice. 1854 01:29:00,510 --> 01:29:03,390 And perhaps some of these reasons like the perceived 1855 01:29:03,390 --> 01:29:05,910 awkwardness or perhaps sort of the underestimation 1856 01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:09,973 of the recipient's mood might contribute to that. 1857 01:29:09,973 --> 01:29:11,640 Now, if you also think for a little bit, 1858 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:15,210 like, how would one actually feel to receive these letters, 1859 01:29:15,210 --> 01:29:17,005 it's pretty obvious once you think about it 1860 01:29:17,005 --> 01:29:19,380 that most people are actually quite happy about receiving 1861 01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:19,980 such letters. 1862 01:29:19,980 --> 01:29:21,930 It's kind of nice if somebody tells you, look. 1863 01:29:21,930 --> 01:29:25,200 You did something really nice for me some time 1864 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,560 a long time ago, and this helped me a lot in my career 1865 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:32,700 in whatever way, or getting into school, into college 1866 01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:33,900 or whatever it might be. 1867 01:29:33,900 --> 01:29:35,880 It's really nice to sort of hear from somebody 1868 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,190 that you did something nice in their life 1869 01:29:38,190 --> 01:29:42,270 that people are quite happy about. 1870 01:29:42,270 --> 01:29:46,830 Now, what's sort of some evidence, some summary of that? 1871 01:29:46,830 --> 01:29:49,230 Well, so we tend to systematically underestimate 1872 01:29:49,230 --> 01:29:53,010 other's appreciated and expressions of gratitude. 1873 01:29:53,010 --> 01:29:56,220 That's also true for some other types of effect. 1874 01:29:56,220 --> 01:29:59,640 That tends to be also true for random acts of kindness. 1875 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:04,050 People tend to be surprisingly more happy about those 1876 01:30:04,050 --> 01:30:05,520 compared to predicted. 1877 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,770 It's also true-- so Epley and Schroeder 1878 01:30:07,770 --> 01:30:10,360 argue for social connections. 1879 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,200 So people also underestimate on average 1880 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:14,880 how they themselves and others feel 1881 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,047 when starting conversations. 1882 01:30:16,047 --> 01:30:18,570 So what this experiment does is this gets people to-- it 1883 01:30:18,570 --> 01:30:22,620 randomized people to start conversations during commuting 1884 01:30:22,620 --> 01:30:24,190 on buses or trains. 1885 01:30:24,190 --> 01:30:26,430 And once people start doing that-- again, 1886 01:30:26,430 --> 01:30:29,640 before, when you ask them, like, how is the other person going 1887 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,140 to feel, how are you going to feel, 1888 01:30:31,140 --> 01:30:34,920 and so on, people will say, well, it's going to be awkward. 1889 01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:36,540 And what are we going to talk about? 1890 01:30:36,540 --> 01:30:38,207 And is the other person even interested? 1891 01:30:38,207 --> 01:30:39,348 And so on. 1892 01:30:39,348 --> 01:30:40,890 But when you actually do that, people 1893 01:30:40,890 --> 01:30:43,260 seem to be quite happy to have started conversations 1894 01:30:43,260 --> 01:30:45,600 and making human connection. 1895 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,195 To be clear, not everybody is happy. 1896 01:30:47,195 --> 01:30:48,570 Some people might be also grumpy. 1897 01:30:48,570 --> 01:30:51,360 But the vast majority, at least in these types of study, 1898 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,480 seem to be quite happy about initiating 1899 01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:57,180 social contact, about expressions, 1900 01:30:57,180 --> 01:31:00,750 letters of gratitude, or things like random acts of kindness. 1901 01:31:00,750 --> 01:31:02,250 It's really nice if somebody happens 1902 01:31:02,250 --> 01:31:04,830 to be something to do something nice towards you. 1903 01:31:04,830 --> 01:31:07,980 Could be like a random person who you've never seen before 1904 01:31:07,980 --> 01:31:09,030 and you never see again. 1905 01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:11,530 Just some random person on the street is really nice to you. 1906 01:31:11,530 --> 01:31:12,970 That might make your day. 1907 01:31:12,970 --> 01:31:15,690 It could be also somebody who quite well, 1908 01:31:15,690 --> 01:31:18,990 and he's a good friend, and who just 1909 01:31:18,990 --> 01:31:20,910 wants to do something nice for you 1910 01:31:20,910 --> 01:31:23,080 for no good, apparent reasons. 1911 01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,230 So one caveat to these kinds of experiments 1912 01:31:25,230 --> 01:31:28,265 is these are very much like one-short, short 1913 01:31:28,265 --> 01:31:28,890 interreactions. 1914 01:31:28,890 --> 01:31:31,200 These are one-time interactions, and then the effects 1915 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:32,080 are measured. 1916 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:33,780 So there are some questions about, 1917 01:31:33,780 --> 01:31:36,430 do these effects persist for repeat interactions? 1918 01:31:36,430 --> 01:31:40,190 That is to say, like, maybe if you do that once, people 1919 01:31:40,190 --> 01:31:41,340 are quite happy. 1920 01:31:41,340 --> 01:31:44,320 But when you try it more often, these effects tend to go away. 1921 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,820 So there's a bit of a question kind of like, how persistent, 1922 01:31:46,820 --> 01:31:48,450 how important are these in practice 1923 01:31:48,450 --> 01:31:52,160 if you do that more often in particular in the long run? 1924 01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:55,010 And then another important question 1925 01:31:55,010 --> 01:31:57,380 here is then the question about always 1926 01:31:57,380 --> 01:32:00,960 under-investing in prosociology in terms of our behavior. 1927 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,760 So lots of people who tend to be quite selfish 1928 01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,220 and do good things for themselves and not so much 1929 01:32:07,220 --> 01:32:08,288 others-- 1930 01:32:08,288 --> 01:32:09,830 presumably, they do that because they 1931 01:32:09,830 --> 01:32:11,930 want to make themselves happy. 1932 01:32:11,930 --> 01:32:14,600 Presumably, people who do nice things towards others 1933 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,120 to some degree do that because they want 1934 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:18,830 to make the other person happy. 1935 01:32:18,830 --> 01:32:23,960 In part perhaps because of social image 1936 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,130 and self-image concerns. 1937 01:32:26,130 --> 01:32:30,170 But one important hypothesis that Epley and others raises 1938 01:32:30,170 --> 01:32:34,640 the question of, like, well, are we underestimating how good it 1939 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,070 might not only make others feel but also 1940 01:32:37,070 --> 01:32:39,350 ourselves feel from being nice? 1941 01:32:39,350 --> 01:32:43,190 That is to say, perhaps, one easy way of making ourselves 1942 01:32:43,190 --> 01:32:47,840 happy is not just by being selfish and maximizing whatever 1943 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,980 outcomes but really, being nice towards others, in part 1944 01:32:51,980 --> 01:32:54,170 perhaps because it just makes us happy to see 1945 01:32:54,170 --> 01:32:55,400 when others are happy. 1946 01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,770 Perhaps it makes us happy because others 1947 01:32:57,770 --> 01:32:59,600 will be then nicer to us. 1948 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,100 And there's a question about, can we 1949 01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:04,070 make others and ourselves happier 1950 01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:08,030 by being more prosocial, perhaps because we 1951 01:33:08,030 --> 01:33:13,113 underestimate to start with what these effects might be? 1952 01:33:13,113 --> 01:33:14,780 I don't think there's that much evidence 1953 01:33:14,780 --> 01:33:17,430 on this specific question, but I'd love to learn more. 1954 01:33:17,430 --> 01:33:19,170 And when you think about your own life, 1955 01:33:19,170 --> 01:33:21,860 you might want to experiment for a while 1956 01:33:21,860 --> 01:33:24,800 and seeing trying to be nice or trying 1957 01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,910 to engage in random acts of kindness, letters of gratitude 1958 01:33:28,910 --> 01:33:31,760 and so on, that might be a nice habit to acquire. 1959 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,990 And you might see it may or might not make you happier. 1960 01:33:35,990 --> 01:33:39,230 Surely, it will make the other person on the receiving end 1961 01:33:39,230 --> 01:33:40,710 happier. 1962 01:33:40,710 --> 01:33:41,210 OK. 1963 01:33:41,210 --> 01:33:44,090 So let me sort of summarize what we learned 1964 01:33:44,090 --> 01:33:46,220 or what we studied on social preferences. 1965 01:33:46,220 --> 01:33:49,940 So first, others' outcomes and utility matter for people's 1966 01:33:49,940 --> 01:33:51,960 choices quite a bit. 1967 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,380 So in various situations, essentially, people 1968 01:33:54,380 --> 01:33:56,600 are willing to give to others, and they're influenced 1969 01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:58,760 by others in their choices. 1970 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,010 Now, upon closer look, there's not 1971 01:34:01,010 --> 01:34:02,900 much evidence of pure altruism. 1972 01:34:02,900 --> 01:34:05,810 Rarely does it seem that people just do stuff for others 1973 01:34:05,810 --> 01:34:08,520 just for the sake of others doing well. 1974 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,990 That is to say, if people get the chance of hiding 1975 01:34:11,990 --> 01:34:14,630 they're not so nice actions, they will often 1976 01:34:14,630 --> 01:34:16,770 take advantage of that. 1977 01:34:16,770 --> 01:34:19,190 The motivation there often is instead 1978 01:34:19,190 --> 01:34:21,650 motivation to give to others or be nice to others 1979 01:34:21,650 --> 01:34:25,470 to be prosocial is often saving face in front of others-- 1980 01:34:25,470 --> 01:34:26,690 this is social image-- 1981 01:34:26,690 --> 01:34:30,330 or themselves, which is self-image. 1982 01:34:30,330 --> 01:34:34,310 So here-- and because of that, situational circumstances 1983 01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:35,090 matter greatly. 1984 01:34:35,090 --> 01:34:38,160 Societal norms are really important to consider. 1985 01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,830 So when you think about incentives 1986 01:34:39,830 --> 01:34:42,750 or any sort of types of structures and organizations, 1987 01:34:42,750 --> 01:34:44,030 how might you-- 1988 01:34:44,030 --> 01:34:48,500 incentives, or how might be sort of a structure certain groups 1989 01:34:48,500 --> 01:34:51,830 of people working together, understanding these norms 1990 01:34:51,830 --> 01:34:55,170 and circumstances is key for fostering prosociology. 1991 01:34:55,170 --> 01:34:57,090 If you want people to be nice to each other, 1992 01:34:57,090 --> 01:35:00,710 you have to set it up in a way that it's maybe observable 1993 01:35:00,710 --> 01:35:02,280 what people do. 1994 01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:03,110 It's encouraged. 1995 01:35:03,110 --> 01:35:06,660 There's opportunities for reciprocity, and so on. 1996 01:35:06,660 --> 01:35:08,720 So a lot of the design of society, 1997 01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,880 of a firm, of a group that you work in 1998 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,180 or a team that you work in really seems to matter. 1999 01:35:14,180 --> 01:35:16,050 So on the one hand, as I said before, 2000 01:35:16,050 --> 01:35:18,050 it's a little bit disappointing that there's not 2001 01:35:18,050 --> 01:35:19,280 much pure altruism. 2002 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,890 But on the other hand, if you sort of understand 2003 01:35:21,890 --> 01:35:24,950 the motivations for people being to engage 2004 01:35:24,950 --> 01:35:28,640 in acts that are good for others, 2005 01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,430 you can sort of design incentives and structures 2006 01:35:31,430 --> 01:35:36,470 that people work in accordingly, which will then create people 2007 01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:40,110 being friendly and cooperative to each other. 2008 01:35:40,110 --> 01:35:42,020 Second, I showed you that social preferences 2009 01:35:42,020 --> 01:35:44,990 matter at workplaces. 2010 01:35:44,990 --> 01:35:47,720 Relative pay can depress incentives to work. 2011 01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:49,100 This is evidenced by Bandiera. 2012 01:35:49,100 --> 01:35:50,930 The fruit pickers that I showed you. 2013 01:35:50,930 --> 01:35:53,990 Pay inequality can lower performance via reduced morale. 2014 01:35:53,990 --> 01:35:56,030 So in particular, if pay inequality 2015 01:35:56,030 --> 01:36:01,250 is seemingly unjustified, that's really bad for worker morale 2016 01:36:01,250 --> 01:36:05,180 and might lower our worker outputs and sort 2017 01:36:05,180 --> 01:36:08,460 of attendance and so on. 2018 01:36:08,460 --> 01:36:12,200 Third, social preferences appear to be malleable and shaped 2019 01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,810 by external factors. 2020 01:36:14,810 --> 01:36:17,720 In particular, there's evidence in favor 2021 01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,030 of the contact hypothesis. 2022 01:36:20,030 --> 01:36:23,600 Being exposed to others from different backgrounds really 2023 01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,930 seems to make us more tolerant and more 2024 01:36:26,930 --> 01:36:30,420 understanding, more prosocial towards these other groups. 2025 01:36:30,420 --> 01:36:33,410 But also more prosocial perhaps in general, which 2026 01:36:33,410 --> 01:36:35,630 is the evidence by Gautam Rao. 2027 01:36:35,630 --> 01:36:38,910 And then finally, there's some evidence 2028 01:36:38,910 --> 01:36:43,090 that biased beliefs may lower prosociology in the sense 2029 01:36:43,090 --> 01:36:47,370 that people might under-invest potentially in how nice 2030 01:36:47,370 --> 01:36:50,700 they are to others perhaps because they misunderstand 2031 01:36:50,700 --> 01:36:53,970 what the effective of engaging on such a prosocial 2032 01:36:53,970 --> 01:36:56,080 act might have on others. 2033 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,550 And so potentially correcting these beliefs or experimenting 2034 01:36:59,550 --> 01:37:02,220 might sort of increase prosociology, at least 2035 01:37:02,220 --> 01:37:04,830 in some settings. 2036 01:37:04,830 --> 01:37:06,285 Now, what's coming next? 2037 01:37:06,285 --> 01:37:07,410 What are the next lectures? 2038 01:37:07,410 --> 01:37:10,180 Lecture number 14 is about limited attention. 2039 01:37:10,180 --> 01:37:13,240 15 is about projection and attribution bias. 2040 01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,420 This is the idea that people have 2041 01:37:15,420 --> 01:37:18,000 trouble projecting how they might 2042 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,810 feel on different states of the world. 2043 01:37:19,810 --> 01:37:21,900 That is the idea if you're really hungry, 2044 01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:24,630 it's really hard to project how you might feel when you're not 2045 01:37:24,630 --> 01:37:26,220 hungry and vise versa. 2046 01:37:26,220 --> 01:37:27,870 We're going to look at that. 2047 01:37:27,870 --> 01:37:30,960 In lecture 16 and 17, we'll look more specifically 2048 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,460 about beliefs and learning. 2049 01:37:32,460 --> 01:37:34,020 We talked a little bit about beliefs 2050 01:37:34,020 --> 01:37:35,520 already in various ways. 2051 01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,320 But now, we're going to talk specifically 2052 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,140 about biases in beliefs and learning, 2053 01:37:40,140 --> 01:37:44,640 as in people sub-optimally learning perhaps because 2054 01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:46,860 of computational issues in the sense that it's 2055 01:37:46,860 --> 01:37:48,990 really hard to learn in some settings, 2056 01:37:48,990 --> 01:37:51,390 in part because of motivated beliefs. 2057 01:37:51,390 --> 01:37:56,250 People might drive utility from their beliefs. 2058 01:37:56,250 --> 01:37:58,080 As in, for example, I might want to think 2059 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:03,220 that I'm a good-looking, smart, and a good teacher. 2060 01:38:03,220 --> 01:38:06,030 And if I get feedback on one way or the other, 2061 01:38:06,030 --> 01:38:08,820 I might react to positive feedback a lot more. 2062 01:38:08,820 --> 01:38:11,145 I might sort of update positively if somebody says, 2063 01:38:11,145 --> 01:38:12,270 Frank, you're really smart. 2064 01:38:12,270 --> 01:38:14,070 I might sort of update positively 2065 01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:15,960 because I feel really good about it. 2066 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,180 If somebody says instead, Frank, you're not so smart, 2067 01:38:18,180 --> 01:38:20,100 I might mostly ignore that feedback 2068 01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:24,290 because it might make me feel bad about myself. 2069 01:38:24,290 --> 01:38:26,080 So that's all for now. 2070 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:27,950 Thank you so much.