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JON GRUBER: Today,
we're going to continue

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with discussion of chapter 7.

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So you remember chapter 7, we
started with basically defining

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public goods, which
are goods that are

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non-rival and non-excludable.

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We then talked about how
basically, the optimal provision

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of public goods would be
determined differently

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than optimal provision
of private goods.

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Then when you solve the optimal
provision of private goods,

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you're equating each
individual's marginal rate

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of substitution with the
marginal rate of transformation

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or in this case,
just marginal cost.

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But when you do
public goods, you

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care about the sum of marginal
rates of substitution,

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because when you have a
public good, everyone gets it.

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So you care about
everyone's happiness,

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not just one person's happiness.

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So that's the key
difference between the two.

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And that key difference
drives the answer

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to the first question in public
finance, which is when should

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the government intervene.

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And the answer is that the
government needs to intervene.

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Or let me say it again.

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The market will
fail if there is--

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the private market will
fail to provide other goods,

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because the classic
free rider problem.

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Reminder-- the free
rider problem is whenever

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someone's actions have a private
cost, but a public benefit,

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they will underprovide
that action

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because they will not
see all the benefit.

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So to see that, I have an
example in the text, but let's

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go to the example in the
appendix, because the appendix

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here is for MIT students.

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The text is for others--

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MIT students too.

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But the appendix is more what
you want to see and can handle.

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So let's take two
individuals, Ben and Jerry.

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Ben and Jerry live by
themselves, far away

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from others.

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They have a private good
x with a price of $1.

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So P sub x equals 1.

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That's the numerator good.

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They consume two things--
the private good, x with P

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sub x is 1 and fireworks
which is a pure public good.

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And we're also going to
assume P sub f equals 1.

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Once again, no
harm in doing this.

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It just avoids us carrying
around a bunch of extra P terms.

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It doesn't change
the math at all.

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It just makes it simpler to see.

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So they can consume
a private good x.

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Think of this as a composite of
everything else they consume--

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or fireworks, which
is a pure public good.

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They each have an
income of $100.

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So yB equals yj equals 100.

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They each have an
income of $100.

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And because fireworks
are a public good,

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they care about the total
amount of fireworks,

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which is fireworks provided
by Ben plus fireworks provided

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by Jerry.

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What they care about is the
total amount of fireworks.

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In particular, each
individual i has

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utility of the following form.

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U-- we're going to
assume their utility.

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Obviously, utility
functions are assumed.

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Their utility
function is 2 times

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log x sub i where I
denotes b and j-- that's

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each individual,
plus log f, which is

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the total amount of fireworks.

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Here's the key thing.

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This is what's going to
make the math work here,

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which is that they only
care about the total amount

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of fireworks.

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They don't care about
the amount they set off.

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It's just what's in the sky.

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We'll come back later
to when they get utility

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from actually setting
it off, but we're

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going to ignore that for now.

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We're just going to assume
they're indifferent who

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sets the fireworks off.

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They just care how many
fireworks are in the sky.

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And their budget
constraint is that x

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sub i plus f sub i equals 100.

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So that's their
maximization problem.

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And the reason it's just
quantities rather than amounts

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is because we assume
prices are equal to 1,

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so our budget constraint,
which is expressed

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in terms of quantities.

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Now, imagine that
each individual

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is deciding on their own how
many fireworks to set up.

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Now, here we go back
to a classic game

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theoretic prisoner's
dilemma type problem

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of the type we saw in 14.01,
which is that basically, we

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have an issue where each
individual's actions affect

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the other.

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So they're going to have to have
some game theoretic solution

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to the situation.

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And we're going to, as in
14.01, assume that there's

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a Nash bargaining context.

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And remember, the way the
Nash bargaining context works

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is that each individual
optimizes their behavior,

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taking the other individual's
behavior as given.

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And then a Nash
equilibrium is one

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where both are
satisfied where, when

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I do what's best for
me, given your behavior,

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and you do what's best for
you, given my behavior,

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we get to the same
equilibrium point.

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Then we're at a
Nash equilibrium.

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And so it's just going to
be the same kind of math

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we did when we did Nash
equilibrium, Cournot equilibria

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in 14.01.

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Basically, we're
going to simply say--

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we can do a trick here.

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We can just insert
the budget constraint

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directly into the
utility function

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to make our math
a little easier.

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We can just say their goal
is to maximize utility,

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which is equal to 2
times log 100 minus fi

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plus log fi plus fj.

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So I've now written
their utility solely

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as a function of fireworks.

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So let's make this
utility of Jerry.

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Let me write this right--

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utility of Ben, so
it's 2 times 100 minus

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how many fireworks Ben sets off,
plus the fireworks set by Ben

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and the fireworks set by Jerry.

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That is their utility function.

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Just plug the budget
constraint in.

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If we differentiate this
with respect to f sub B,

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you get minus 2 over
100 minus f sub B

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plus 1 over f sub B
plus f sub j equals 0.

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That's what happens when we
differentiate that equation.

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And therefore from that, we
can generate the conclusion--

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just going to work upwards here.

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We'll generate the conclusion
that f sub B is equal

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to 100 minus 2 f sub J over 3.

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F sub B equals 100
minus 2 f sub j over 3.

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So once again, taking
f sub J is fixed,

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Ben solves and
gets that outcome.

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Similarly, by
symmetry, we get that f

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sub j equals 100 minus
2 f sub B over 3.

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You can solve that out.

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Or you can just know
by symmetry that's

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going to be true in this case.

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So that's two equations
and two unknowns.

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Solve them, and you
get that f sub B star,

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or f sub B the private
equilibrium, is 20

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and f sub j equals 20,
that they each provide 20

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fireworks for a total f of 40.

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Questions about that?

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So once again, they've each
maximized their firework use,

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taking the other person's
behavior as given.

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Now, what is the optimal
level of fireworks?

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Well, the optimal
level of fireworks

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we know from last
lecture is where

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the sum of the marginal
rates of substitution

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equals the marginal
rate of transformation.

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So that is the sum of what's the
marginal rate of substitution

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of Ben.

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It's going to be
the it's going to be

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the ratio of their marginal
utility of fireworks

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to their marginal
utility of private goods.

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So the marginal rate
of substitution for Ben

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equals the ratio of the marginal
utility of fireworks to Ben

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over the marginal utility
of private goods for Ben.

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So if we differentiate the
utility function to get this

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we're going to get that for Ben.

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We're going to get
that 100 minus f sub j.

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I'm sorry, minus f sub B. That's
differentiating this utility

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function with respect to
fireworks over 2 times

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f sub B plus f sub j is
going to be his marginal rate

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of substitution.

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That's going to be Ben's rate of
marginal rate of substitution.

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And what do we know from optimal
provision of public goods?

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That you want to set the sum of
marginal rates of substitution

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equal to the marginal
rate of transformation.

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So when I said that, we
want to do the same thing

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for Jerry, which by symmetry,
now all look the same.

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It will be 100 minus f sub
j over 2 times fB plus fj.

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That's going to be Jerry's
marginal rate of substitution.

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We want to set that sum equal
to the ratio of marginal cost

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of fireworks over marginal
cost of x, which is equal to 1

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by assumption here.

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Because we're in a
competitive market,

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price equals marginal cost.

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I did skip one step here.

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Notice I wrote that
prices were 1 here.

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I said marginal costs are 1.

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Why can I skip that step?

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Because in a competitive market,
price equals marginal cost.

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OK, sorry, that's a--

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be very clear that when
I assume price equals 1,

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I also assume marginal
cost equals 1 because I'm

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in a competitive market.

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It's just a step
I've skipped here.

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So this is the equation we
solve for optimal provision

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of public goods.

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And if you solve that, you get
that fB equals fj equals 30.

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The optimal provision is
that they each provide 30--

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I'm sorry 33.3, my bad--

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33.3, so that f equals
66.6 or 66.7666.

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That is the optimal provision.

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That is much higher than
the private provision.

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This is the key
of all this math.

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The key conclusion is that when
individuals privately optimize,

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taken the other person's
behavior as given,

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they will end up providing
fewer fireworks in total--

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40 fireworks, rather
than 66.66666 fireworks.

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Why?

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What's the intuition for that?

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Someone raise their
hand and tell me.

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Why does a private
provision yield less

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than the optimal amount
they should be providing?

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Hint-- I've already given
the answer in this lecture.

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Yeah, Enoch.

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AUDIENCE: They both benefit
from the other's purchase

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of fireworks.

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JON GRUBER: So it's
an example of what?

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Free rider problem.

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Raise your hand--
free rider problem.

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It's an example of
free rider problem.

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Basically, this is the
key intuition here.

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It's tricky, but we have in this
class what I call our light bulb

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moments where things are hard
until they're suddenly not.

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You just got to
get the light bulb

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moment on this, which
is that basically,

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when my actions
benefit other people,

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it's the intuition from
positive externalities.

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A public good is the ultimate
positive externality.

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When my actions benefit
others, I do too little of it.

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This is the perfect case.

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I'm doing two little
fireworks because my actions

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are benefiting my neighbor.

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So privately, I'm shooting
off too few fireworks

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relative to what's
socially optimal.

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So by the Samuelson condition,
which we proved last time--

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which says that the optimal
provision of public goods

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relies on the sum of marginal
rate of substitution,

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while the private
provision of public goods

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is going to rely on
each individual's

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marginal rate of
substitution, we

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end up providing too few public
goods in the private market.

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The private market will fail
to provide public goods.

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Not fail to provide them-- fail
to provide the optimal quantity.

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And this will come back.

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We have to remember to avoid
black and white thinking

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in this class.

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It's not either the
private market completely

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fails or completely succeeds.

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Failure is defined
as non-optimality.

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It is not defined as the
market being destroyed.

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It's defined as not optimal.

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The market still works.

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We get 40 fireworks.

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The sky is lit up.

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It's just not as
lit up as it would

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be if there was a social planner
optimizing social welfare.

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Questions about that?

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Yeah.

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AUDIENCE: Do you mind explaining
the math behind the 100 minus f

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[INAUDIBLE] of x-- or the m--

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JON GRUBER: Oh, the
marginal utility--

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I just differentiated
this function with respect

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to fireworks, f sub B.

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] data.

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JON GRUBER: Yes, exactly,
that utility function.

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Other questions?

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So this is the
mathematical illustration

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of the free rider problem.

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In practice, the free rider
problem is everywhere.

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So they have some fun
examples in the book.

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For example, the state
of Victoria in Australia

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used to pay for fire protection
by a tax on homeowner insurance

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policies.

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So you bought your
homeowner insurance,

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there was an extra tax.

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And that paid for fire services.

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So that meant if you
didn't insure your home,

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you didn't pay
for fire services.

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But the fire company still
came and saved your home

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because they had to because
they had to because other homes

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had burned down.

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So people stopped
buying insurance

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because they were like,
I'm going to get it anyway.

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And so then the
state of Victoria

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switched to financing it
through a property tax,

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rather than through insurance.

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Do we have any New
York Citiers here?

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No New York Citiers here.

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Any of you guys been the Met in
New York City, the museum there?

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So the Met in New
York City, since 1970,

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has had a recommended donation
instead of an admissions fee.

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You don't have to pay to
get into this incredibly

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famous museum.

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There's a recommended donation.

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For years, to try to get--

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now, that's a clear
free rider problem.

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I cannot pay and get the same
thing as you get by paying.

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So how did they try to solve it?

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"Recommended" was in tiny
letters relative to the sign.

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Well, actually a
lawsuit in 2013 said

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they could no longer do that.

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They had to make
it the same size,

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and the share of people
donating fell from 50% to 10%.

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That's another example
of free rider problem.

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And of course, we all
probably, every day,

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see examples of this
with our online usage.

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Take Dropbox, which you can use
for free until a certain level.

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People don't pay.

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Streaming services-- can
there's certain options.

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And what do they do?

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They try to fight it.

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Spotify is free.

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If it's free, you
got to pay ads.

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Dropbox, it's better
if it's not free,

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et cetera That's how they're
trying to fight this free rider

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problem.

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So that's the free rider
problem in practice.

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The question is, can--

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now the fact, the private market
doesn't deliver optimality

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does not by itself say the
government should be involved.

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In fact, once again, our
friend Coase spoke up and said,

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wait a second,
the private market

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can solve public good problems.

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And he pointed to a famous
example of lighthouses.

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He said, a lighthouse seems
to fit the classic definition

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of a pure public good.

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You can't exclude someone
from seeing the beacon.

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And if the beacon is
out there and I'm using,

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it doesn't deter your use of it.

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So lighthouses are a
pretty pure public good.

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And yet for much of
history, lighthouses

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were privately provided.

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There was no government
provision of lighthouses.

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They were privately provided.

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How did they do it?

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When your boat
landed, they wouldn't

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let you take the
cargo off the boat

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until you paid a fee that
offset the cost of running

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the lighthouse.

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So since they had a
property right to docking,

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they could essentially,
in a Coasean way,

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solve the public goods problem.

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So once again, in theory,
the same theoretical Coasean

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argument, which says
that externalities

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can be internalized, says public
goods problems can be solved,

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as long as there's
property rights.

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And indeed, a famous
example of this occurring

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is something called business
improvement districts.

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Once again, we don't
have New Yorkers

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here, but how many of you guys
have been to Times Square?

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OK, most of you.

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Times square, when I was
a kid, was a nightmare.

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I mean, I can't believe my
parents let me go there.

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It was just prostitutes
and gambling and drugs.

00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:54.420 align:middle line:90%
It was awful.

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Now it's just Disney
characters and M&M stores.

00:18:57.820 --> 00:18:59.582 align:middle line:90%
What happened?

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What happened was the government
was failing to provide it.

00:19:02.040 --> 00:19:04.860 align:middle line:84%
And New York had a law, which
is called a Business Improvement

00:19:04.860 --> 00:19:05.860 align:middle line:90%
District law.

00:19:05.860 --> 00:19:13.220 align:middle line:84%
And the way this law worked
was that basically, the law

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said that if you have an
organization of businesses

00:19:16.300 --> 00:19:22.700 align:middle line:84%
and 60% of them agree, you can
levy a charge on every business

00:19:22.700 --> 00:19:24.787 align:middle line:90%
for private purposes.

00:19:24.787 --> 00:19:27.120 align:middle line:84%
So the businesses in Times
Square got together and said,

00:19:27.120 --> 00:19:29.530 align:middle line:84%
as long as 60% of
us agree, we can

00:19:29.530 --> 00:19:31.490 align:middle line:84%
force every business
in Times Square

00:19:31.490 --> 00:19:34.050 align:middle line:84%
to pay a charge that will
go to private sanitation

00:19:34.050 --> 00:19:36.290 align:middle line:90%
and private enforcement.

00:19:36.290 --> 00:19:38.710 align:middle line:84%
And they did, and they privately
cleaned up Times Square.

00:19:38.710 --> 00:19:40.710 align:middle line:84%
The Times Square Business
Improvement District's

00:19:40.710 --> 00:19:46.050 align:middle line:84%
one of most successful
examples in the country, where

00:19:46.050 --> 00:19:48.770 align:middle line:84%
basically the budget of
the Times Square Alliance

00:19:48.770 --> 00:19:51.590 align:middle line:84%
is about $23 million,
about 200 employees.

00:19:51.590 --> 00:19:54.290 align:middle line:84%
And they keep the
place clean and safe.

00:19:54.290 --> 00:19:56.830 align:middle line:90%
So that's a Coasean solution.

00:19:56.830 --> 00:19:59.223 align:middle line:90%


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And these business
improvement districts

00:20:00.890 --> 00:20:01.790 align:middle line:90%
are all over the country.

00:20:01.790 --> 00:20:04.040 align:middle line:84%
Almost every state has a law
with business improvement

00:20:04.040 --> 00:20:04.850 align:middle line:90%
districts.

00:20:04.850 --> 00:20:07.490 align:middle line:90%
And they've grown.

00:20:07.490 --> 00:20:10.050 align:middle line:84%
There's a big one in Los
Angeles, which provided

00:20:10.050 --> 00:20:12.810 align:middle line:90%
crime reductions et cetera

00:20:12.810 --> 00:20:15.970 align:middle line:84%
Probably the state
with the fewest BIDs,

00:20:15.970 --> 00:20:19.450 align:middle line:84%
and the least successful,
is Massachusetts.

00:20:19.450 --> 00:20:21.090 align:middle line:90%
Now, why is that?

00:20:21.090 --> 00:20:24.250 align:middle line:84%
Well, think about the key way
the Massachusetts law differs

00:20:24.250 --> 00:20:33.040 align:middle line:84%
from other laws, which is that
if the vote passes in your area,

00:20:33.040 --> 00:20:37.240 align:middle line:84%
within 30 days, you can
opt out of paying the tax.

00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:41.620 align:middle line:84%
So if the district in Waltham,
which is a suburb of Boston,

00:20:41.620 --> 00:20:45.120 align:middle line:84%
60% of the businesses
vote to tax themselves.

00:20:45.120 --> 00:20:48.640 align:middle line:84%
The other 40% could just say, no
thanks, we're not going to pay.

00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:49.960 align:middle line:90%
Well, what does that do?

00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:52.120 align:middle line:84%
Reintroduce the
free rider problem,

00:20:52.120 --> 00:20:54.660 align:middle line:84%
because they know
once [INAUDIBLE] ride,

00:20:54.660 --> 00:20:55.680 align:middle line:90%
they'll benefit.

00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.880 align:middle line:90%
So why should they pay?

00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:01.293 align:middle line:84%
So subsets, you need more
than a property right

00:21:01.293 --> 00:21:02.710 align:middle line:84%
to make the Coasean
solution work.

00:21:02.710 --> 00:21:04.168 align:middle line:84%
For business
improvement districts,

00:21:04.168 --> 00:21:08.080 align:middle line:84%
you need correct legislation
to enforce the absence

00:21:08.080 --> 00:21:09.380 align:middle line:90%
of the free rider problem.

00:21:09.380 --> 00:21:12.620 align:middle line:84%
It was the fact that in Times
Square, when 60% approved,

00:21:12.620 --> 00:21:15.080 align:middle line:84%
everyone had to
pay, make it work.

00:21:15.080 --> 00:21:21.000 align:middle line:84%
In Massachusetts, when 60%
approve, if people can drop out,

00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.080 align:middle line:84%
then the whole
thing falls apart.

00:21:23.080 --> 00:21:24.020 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:21:24.020 --> 00:21:27.860 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Do the idea is that
don't have that opt-out clause.

00:21:27.860 --> 00:21:31.060 align:middle line:84%
It's like legal challenges where
if someone owns a storefront

00:21:31.060 --> 00:21:34.120 align:middle line:84%
that they operate [INAUDIBLE],
who are the other business?

00:21:34.120 --> 00:21:36.100 align:middle line:90%
Like, what legal authority--

00:21:36.100 --> 00:21:37.880 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: It's
a legal authority.

00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:39.500 align:middle line:90%
It's a great question.

00:21:39.500 --> 00:21:41.000 align:middle line:84%
I don't know enough
of the legality.

00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.120 align:middle line:84%
I don't know what
lawsuits they face.

00:21:42.120 --> 00:21:44.460 align:middle line:84%
They've certainly withstood
any lawsuits they faced.

00:21:44.460 --> 00:21:47.380 align:middle line:84%
But basically, the state
has given a legal authority

00:21:47.380 --> 00:21:49.900 align:middle line:84%
for businesses to essentially
create one of these business

00:21:49.900 --> 00:21:51.080 align:middle line:90%
improvement districts.

00:21:51.080 --> 00:21:53.310 align:middle line:84%
And I presume the
charges are nominal.

00:21:53.310 --> 00:21:55.060 align:middle line:84%
If they were phenomenal,
presumably people

00:21:55.060 --> 00:21:55.760 align:middle line:90%
would sue a lot.

00:21:55.760 --> 00:21:57.302 align:middle line:84%
But maybe they're
nominal if it's not

00:21:57.302 --> 00:21:58.638 align:middle line:90%
worth paying the lawyers to sue.

00:21:58.638 --> 00:21:59.680 align:middle line:90%
But it's a good question.

00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:04.620 align:middle line:84%
I don't know the legality of
it, how it's been challenged.

00:22:04.620 --> 00:22:09.628 align:middle line:84%
So in some sense, private
provision has a case here.

00:22:09.628 --> 00:22:10.920 align:middle line:90%
There's the lighthouse example.

00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:12.820 align:middle line:84%
There's the business
improvement districts.

00:22:12.820 --> 00:22:17.460 align:middle line:84%
So the question is, when
is private provision

00:22:17.460 --> 00:22:21.740 align:middle line:84%
likely to actually work
in providing public goods

00:22:21.740 --> 00:22:23.260 align:middle line:90%
and when is it not?

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What are the conditions
under which it will

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work, under which it will not?

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And in some sense, a key
example, a key point,

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is private provision
will work best

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when there's heterogeneity
among the parties involved.

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The more heterogeneity in
either income or tastes,

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the better private provision
of public goods might work.

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Why is that?

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Imagine Ben and Jerry in
their two-person economy,

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but Ben is very much
richer than Jerry.

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In that case, we will get
closer to the optimal provision

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of fireworks than if they
have the same incomes.

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Why?

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And for an intuition, think
about the extreme case.

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Imagine

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Ben has all the money,
Jerry has no money.

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We still won't get
to the optimal.

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We'll get closer.

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Why is that?

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Why does that heterogeneity--
or if you like,

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think about
heterogeneity in taste.

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Imagine Ben likes fireworks
a ton more than Jerry.

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You'll also get
closer to the optimum.

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Well, think of it this way.

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Does Robinson Crusoe face a
public goods problem when he's

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trapped alone in his island?

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You guys know Robinson Crusoe?

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You guys don't even
know who he is.

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It's an old story.

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He got trapped
alone in an island.

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That's all you need to know.

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He doesn't have a
public good problem.

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Why?

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He has a free rider problem
because it's just him.

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As most of the
resources and most

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of the taste for public goods
get coordinated into one person,

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it gets closer to
Robinson Crusoe.

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So you get closer
to the optimum.

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So let's see that
mathematically, once again

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from the appendix.

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Imagine that Ben now
has an income of $125,

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and Jerry's income is only $75.

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So now yb is 125
and yj equals 75.

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We've redistributed
income a little bit,

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so now Ben has more
money but the utilities

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are still the same.

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Now Ben has a demand
for fireworks.

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So if you do the
same math, f sub B,

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Ben's demand for
fireworks is going

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to be 125 minus f sub J over 3.

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And Jerry's is going to be
75 minus f sub B over 3.

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Sorry-- minus 2 f sub j.

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There's a 2 here.

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Do I have the 2 there?

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Did I screw that up?

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I might have screwed that up.

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Hold on.

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Yeah, there should be 2's here.

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That's my bad.

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There should be 2's here.

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This makes the math work.

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OK, I'm sorry.

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It's all in the appendix.

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But if you go back
to your notes,

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there should be 2's
in front of those.

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Yeah, I got it right up there.

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But I didn't get it right here.

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This should be 2's here.

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Even when I'm reading out of the
textbook, I can't get it right.

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You guys see that?

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OK, so basically, it's 125 minus
2 fj over 75 minus 2 fB over 3.

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When you solve those
two equations jointly,

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you're going to get
that f sub B equals 45

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and f sub j equals minus 5.

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That's what you're
going to get when

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you solve those equations
f sub B equals 45

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and f sub j equals minus 5.

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Now, you can't provide
negative fireworks.

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So f sub j becomes 0.

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So the total amount of
fireworks provided becomes 45.

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Yeah, and the total amount
of fireworks becomes 45.

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This is higher than
what they get when--

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no, actually, it doesn't become
45, because once this is 0,

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you re-solve for Ben.

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And once that's
re-solved for Ben,

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you actually get that f,
which is f sub B equals 41.66.

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Because once this is 0,
you got to re-plug this

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into Ben's condition.

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And you're going to get that the
total amount of fireworks fired

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is 41.66.

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So if you solve it, you get a
solution that can't be right,

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which is Jerry can't
provide negative fireworks.

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Jerry provides 0.

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You plug 0 back in here, and
you get that Ben's fireworks--

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Ben's the only person
provide fireworks, is 41.66.

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Take this to the extreme.

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If Ben has all the money and
Jerry has none of the money,

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you're going to get very, very
close to the optimal level.

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You'll never get there.

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The way I like to
think is the following.

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Imagine you have a giant
mansion and a tiny crappy

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shack that share a driveway.

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Maybe there's a little extra
bit that goes off to each.

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There should technically
be a free rider

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problem in plowing
that driveway,

00:27:35.380 --> 00:27:38.300 align:middle line:84%
but the mansion is just going
to fricking plow the driveway.

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They're not going to not plow it
because the shack won't kick in.

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Now, maybe they won't
do quite as good a job

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as they'd do if the
shack was paying.

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They certainly won't
do the little bit

00:27:48.043 --> 00:27:49.340 align:middle line:90%
that goes off to the shack.

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But they're going to pretty
much plow the driveway.

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The point is, the
more one party really

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has all the stake
in the decision,

00:27:56.537 --> 00:27:58.620 align:middle line:84%
the more you move away
from the free rider problem

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towards essentially the Robinson
Crusoe solution, which is

00:28:01.340 --> 00:28:02.560 align:middle line:90%
they just do the right thing.

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Yeah.

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AUDIENCE: When
introducing heterogeneity,

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does the distribution
of resources and tastes

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have to be positively
correlated?

00:28:10.380 --> 00:28:14.580 align:middle line:84%
So say, for example, one party
has all the resources but none

00:28:14.580 --> 00:28:15.200 align:middle line:90%
of the taste.

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JON GRUBER: Yes, that's right.

00:28:16.070 --> 00:28:16.903 align:middle line:90%
That's a good point.

00:28:16.903 --> 00:28:19.250 align:middle line:84%
That could be offsetting
heterogeneity.

00:28:19.250 --> 00:28:20.650 align:middle line:90%
That's a great point.

00:28:20.650 --> 00:28:24.533 align:middle line:84%
I've assumed that there's
no correlation here.

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They both like
fireworks the same.

00:28:25.950 --> 00:28:28.367 align:middle line:84%
But if there's offsetting
homogeneity, that would undo it.

00:28:28.367 --> 00:28:29.490 align:middle line:90%
Great point.

00:28:29.490 --> 00:28:32.610 align:middle line:90%
Other comments or questions?

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So that's one-- yeah.

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AUDIENCE: Among
[INAUDIBLE] since we're

00:28:39.610 --> 00:28:41.890 align:middle line:84%
talking about
heterogeneity, is there

00:28:41.890 --> 00:28:43.470 align:middle line:84%
a hard line between
heterogeneity

00:28:43.470 --> 00:28:46.182 align:middle line:84%
and just overall
concentration of resources?

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JON GRUBER: Yeah,
concentration is really

00:28:47.890 --> 00:28:50.850 align:middle line:90%
going to make the difference.

00:28:50.850 --> 00:28:52.490 align:middle line:90%
So that's one reason.

00:28:52.490 --> 00:28:55.330 align:middle line:84%
So we're talking about,
when is the private sector

00:28:55.330 --> 00:28:57.810 align:middle line:84%
going to be closer
to getting it right?

00:28:57.810 --> 00:29:00.207 align:middle line:84%
One is when there's
this concentration.

00:29:00.207 --> 00:29:02.290 align:middle line:84%
That's a better term than
heterogeneity, actually.

00:29:02.290 --> 00:29:04.570 align:middle line:90%
When this is "concentration."

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The second is when
there's altruism.

00:29:08.210 --> 00:29:16.400 align:middle line:84%
Altruism is defined as the
fact that my utility includes

00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.080 align:middle line:90%
your utility.

00:29:18.080 --> 00:29:19.680 align:middle line:84%
An altruistic
utility function is

00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:25.400 align:middle line:84%
a function of my own
consumption plus your utility.

00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.320 align:middle line:84%
That's an altruistic
utility function.

00:29:28.320 --> 00:29:31.040 align:middle line:84%
If individuals are
altruistic, then that

00:29:31.040 --> 00:29:34.360 align:middle line:84%
helps solve the
free rider problem,

00:29:34.360 --> 00:29:36.240 align:middle line:84%
because they're
incorporating the fact

00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:39.400 align:middle line:84%
that the other person would be
happier with more fireworks.

00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.520 align:middle line:84%
Once again, it
doesn't fully solve it

00:29:41.520 --> 00:29:43.180 align:middle line:90%
except under certain conditions.

00:29:43.180 --> 00:29:46.560 align:middle line:84%
But it will move us
closer to the optimum.

00:29:46.560 --> 00:29:51.660 align:middle line:84%
Now, it turns out that, much
to the chagrin of economists,

00:29:51.660 --> 00:29:53.780 align:middle line:90%
people are pretty altruistic.

00:29:53.780 --> 00:29:55.823 align:middle line:84%
It's not in our standard
models we teach.

00:29:55.823 --> 00:29:57.740 align:middle line:84%
But it turns out people
are pretty altruistic.

00:29:57.740 --> 00:30:01.120 align:middle line:84%
And the best way to see this is
to look at the dictator game.

00:30:01.120 --> 00:30:04.292 align:middle line:84%
Any of you guys ever been to
the science museum in Boston?

00:30:04.292 --> 00:30:06.000 align:middle line:84%
You probably didn't
go there, but there's

00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.812 align:middle line:84%
a room where there's computers
that can play a game where you

00:30:08.812 --> 00:30:10.020 align:middle line:90%
trade cookies back and forth.

00:30:10.020 --> 00:30:11.273 align:middle line:90%
Any you guys ever play that?

00:30:11.273 --> 00:30:12.440 align:middle line:90%
I used to play with my kids.

00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.080 align:middle line:84%
OK, it's more of a
kids thing anyway.

00:30:15.080 --> 00:30:20.260 align:middle line:84%
So basically, imagine
the following experiment.

00:30:20.260 --> 00:30:23.030 align:middle line:84%
It's a typical experiment,
run hundreds of times

00:30:23.030 --> 00:30:25.820 align:middle line:84%
at universities all
over the country.

00:30:25.820 --> 00:30:28.060 align:middle line:84%
You have five
students who are going

00:30:28.060 --> 00:30:30.060 align:middle line:90%
to play 10 rounds of a game.

00:30:30.060 --> 00:30:32.760 align:middle line:84%
And the way the game is going
to work is, in each round,

00:30:32.760 --> 00:30:35.220 align:middle line:90%
students are given $1.

00:30:35.220 --> 00:30:37.900 align:middle line:84%
And they have the option
of keeping that dollar

00:30:37.900 --> 00:30:40.400 align:middle line:84%
or putting it in the public
fund, which is in the middle.

00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.010 align:middle line:90%


00:30:43.010 --> 00:30:44.620 align:middle line:90%
If they could choose--

00:30:44.620 --> 00:30:48.820 align:middle line:90%


00:30:48.820 --> 00:30:51.580 align:middle line:84%
after all students decide
whether to contribute,

00:30:51.580 --> 00:30:54.060 align:middle line:84%
the amount in the
public fund is then

00:30:54.060 --> 00:30:57.340 align:middle line:84%
split up equally and
distributed back to everyone.

00:30:57.340 --> 00:30:58.700 align:middle line:90%
So everyone gets $1.

00:30:58.700 --> 00:31:00.860 align:middle line:90%
These five guys get $1.

00:31:00.860 --> 00:31:02.460 align:middle line:84%
They have a choice,
keep that dollar

00:31:02.460 --> 00:31:04.040 align:middle line:90%
or put it in a public fund.

00:31:04.040 --> 00:31:05.620 align:middle line:84%
If they put it in
the public fund,

00:31:05.620 --> 00:31:10.090 align:middle line:84%
it gets doubled and distributed
equally back to everyone.

00:31:10.090 --> 00:31:17.710 align:middle line:84%
So in a perfectly coordinated
cooperative equilibrium,

00:31:17.710 --> 00:31:20.210 align:middle line:84%
what's the optimal thing
to do for these guys?

00:31:20.210 --> 00:31:20.870 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:31:20.870 --> 00:31:21.810 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Everyone
puts in their dollar.

00:31:21.810 --> 00:31:24.352 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Puts in their dollar
and they all end up with $2.

00:31:24.352 --> 00:31:30.008 align:middle line:84%
In a Nash equilibrium,
what should each person do?

00:31:30.008 --> 00:31:30.550 align:middle line:90%
Someone else.

00:31:30.550 --> 00:31:33.170 align:middle line:90%
What should each person do?

00:31:33.170 --> 00:31:34.910 align:middle line:90%
What's privately optimal?

00:31:34.910 --> 00:31:36.690 align:middle line:84%
Socially optimal if
you each put in $1.

00:31:36.690 --> 00:31:38.705 align:middle line:90%
What's privately optimal?

00:31:38.705 --> 00:31:39.830 align:middle line:90%
Let's get some other folks.

00:31:39.830 --> 00:31:40.090 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:31:40.090 --> 00:31:41.170 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Keeping their money.

00:31:41.170 --> 00:31:43.712 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Keeping their money,
because every dollar you put

00:31:43.712 --> 00:31:46.770 align:middle line:90%
in, you get $0.40 back.

00:31:46.770 --> 00:31:49.630 align:middle line:84%
So why would you
put in your dollar?

00:31:49.630 --> 00:31:52.030 align:middle line:90%
So there's a free rider problem.

00:31:52.030 --> 00:31:55.610 align:middle line:84%
In practice, you put in $1, but
you only get $0.40 back of that

00:31:55.610 --> 00:31:57.170 align:middle line:90%
dollar.

00:31:57.170 --> 00:31:58.770 align:middle line:90%
So why would you put it in?

00:31:58.770 --> 00:32:00.770 align:middle line:84%
Well, in fact, when you
run these games, when

00:32:00.770 --> 00:32:03.530 align:middle line:84%
you run these
experiments in practice,

00:32:03.530 --> 00:32:11.120 align:middle line:84%
you find that roughly
half of participants

00:32:11.120 --> 00:32:12.680 align:middle line:90%
put in their dollar.

00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:16.600 align:middle line:84%
Even though there is no
private incentive, roughly half

00:32:16.600 --> 00:32:19.480 align:middle line:84%
put in the dollar,
which is consistent

00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.840 align:middle line:84%
with altruism, consistent with
the notion that basically-- now,

00:32:22.840 --> 00:32:25.060 align:middle line:84%
altruism could arrive
through social appropriation,

00:32:25.060 --> 00:32:27.600 align:middle line:84%
like I feel like a jerk if
I don't put in my dollar.

00:32:27.600 --> 00:32:31.040 align:middle line:84%
It could arise through true
loving your fellow person.

00:32:31.040 --> 00:32:33.640 align:middle line:84%
However it arises,
it effectively

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acts as if you care
about your fellow person.

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It operationalizes
itself in the same way.

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It's an interesting question
about where it comes through,

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but that's irrelevant to the
reduced form outcome, which

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sort of operationalizes itself
as people being altruistic.

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Yeah.

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AUDIENCE: This might
be slightly off topic,

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but would this be different
than a lottery example

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because there's uncertainty
in how many others

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contribute $1 when you--

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if I should
contribute $1 or not.

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JON GRUBER: Different
from a lottery example?

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What do you mean?

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

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So for example, the most
optimal thing for me,

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if I could coordinate
everyone else's behavior,

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is for me to keep my $1, but
everyone else to contribute $1.

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JON GRUBER: No, the
most optimal thing

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is you all put in your dollar.

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A lottery is not the same.

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There's only one winner.

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And as we learned
in 14.01 actually,

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the lottery is the reverse.

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For every dollar you put
in, you keep about $0.50.

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Because there's this
multiplier, it's

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optimal for them
all-- socially optimal

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for them all put their money in.

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And they're just making
me pay more money.

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Privately, they don't do that.

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Now, it's quite interesting
that there's that much--

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there's some interesting
lessons from that.

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First of all, you
might say, well, gee,

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maybe people didn't
understand it.

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How would you test whether
it's about learning

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versus about altruism?

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How would you test
that empirically?

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Someone tell me what you think.

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You're running
these experiments.

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I say, yeah, you ran it, but
maybe this don't understand it.

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What would you do?

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Someone raise their
hand and tell me.

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Yeah.

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] you could
stop and explain [INAUDIBLE].

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JON GRUBER: Or you
could just play it again

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and again and again.

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That's the way we think
economic intuition's developed.

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It turns out, if you
played it again and again,

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people become a little
less altruistic.

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But even after 10 rounds,
people are very altruistic.

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So it's not a learning thing.

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Now, I don't know if they've
tried explaining like, hey, you

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should be selfish.

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But they've had people
play it again and again,

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and it doesn't make
altruism go away.

00:34:33.429 --> 00:34:37.130 align:middle line:90%


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Now, of course, that's just
a laboratory experiment.

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The question is, does altruism
exist in the real world?

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And there's one
great paper-- it's

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an older paper, but
a great paper, which

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looked at contributions
to public radio.

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It basically looked at people's
giving, which is once again,

00:34:52.510 --> 00:34:55.110 align:middle line:84%
a classic example of public
good free rider problem--

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you don't have to
contribute to public radio.

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They make you feel guilty.

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But they don't come to
your house or anything,

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or they don't twist your arm.

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You don't have to
give to public radio.

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And what a typical
economic model would say

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is, if I enjoy public radio,
then as the number of listeners

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grows, I should be
less likely to give,

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because basically,
it's a fixed amount.

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Presuming the cost of
running public radio

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is roughly the same as the
number of listeners grows.

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It's just, you're sending
the transmission out.

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In other words, as
this grows, then

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basically there's more and
more of a free rider problem.

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So think of it this way.

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Think of yourself, when you're
coming out of the subway

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and there's no one else around,
there's the guy begging,

00:35:33.198 --> 00:35:35.240 align:middle line:84%
you feel more likely to
get money than if there's

00:35:35.240 --> 00:35:36.800 align:middle line:90%
20 people walking by.

00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:37.983 align:middle line:90%
It's just human nature.

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Likewise, it would
say that people

00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.220 align:middle line:84%
should give less to public radio
as the listener base goes up.

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And in fact, they don't, which
is consistent with the fact

00:35:46.240 --> 00:35:49.095 align:middle line:84%
that there's some altruistic
preferences going on.

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So that's one example of
a real world test of this.

00:35:51.220 --> 00:35:52.840 align:middle line:90%
There's lots more.

00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:59.000 align:middle line:84%
Now, the problem is, then you
ask the question of, well,

00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:00.880 align:middle line:90%
where does altruism come from?

00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.060 align:middle line:90%
Why are people altruistic?

00:36:02.060 --> 00:36:03.900 align:middle line:84%
Is this just inherent
in our nature?

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And it turns out altruism
is not purely inherent,

00:36:06.560 --> 00:36:08.060 align:middle line:90%
but can be influenced.

00:36:08.060 --> 00:36:09.860 align:middle line:84%
And the main thing that
influences altruism

00:36:09.860 --> 00:36:11.560 align:middle line:90%
is the degree of social capital.

00:36:11.560 --> 00:36:15.900 align:middle line:90%


00:36:15.900 --> 00:36:17.260 align:middle line:90%
This is the notion.

00:36:17.260 --> 00:36:19.360 align:middle line:84%
Social capital is
an abstract concept.

00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.060 align:middle line:84%
But it's roughly the idea of
how much you feel connected

00:36:22.060 --> 00:36:25.095 align:middle line:84%
to your fellow people,
how much you trust them,

00:36:25.095 --> 00:36:26.720 align:middle line:84%
how much you feel
integrated with them.

00:36:26.720 --> 00:36:28.387 align:middle line:84%
And it turns out, if
you run experiments

00:36:28.387 --> 00:36:31.460 align:middle line:84%
in more connected societies,
they're more altruistic.

00:36:31.460 --> 00:36:34.140 align:middle line:84%
When you're playing with
friends, you're more altruistic.

00:36:34.140 --> 00:36:35.835 align:middle line:84%
So clearly, part of
what drives altruism

00:36:35.835 --> 00:36:36.960 align:middle line:90%
is actually knowing people.

00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:38.320 align:middle line:84%
But even when you
don't know people,

00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:39.720 align:middle line:90%
there's still a lot of altruism.

00:36:39.720 --> 00:36:42.500 align:middle line:90%


00:36:42.500 --> 00:36:44.860 align:middle line:90%
So that is another reason.

00:36:44.860 --> 00:36:48.060 align:middle line:84%
We're talking about reasons why
the private market might get

00:36:48.060 --> 00:36:49.860 align:middle line:90%
closer to the public optimum.

00:36:49.860 --> 00:36:52.740 align:middle line:84%
The private market can never,
except in some extremely limited

00:36:52.740 --> 00:36:54.880 align:middle line:84%
case, achieve the
social optimum.

00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.260 align:middle line:84%
But it might get closer
if there's concentration.

00:36:58.260 --> 00:37:02.650 align:middle line:84%
It might get closer
if there is altruism.

00:37:02.650 --> 00:37:04.610 align:middle line:84%
And the third thing that
might drive it closer

00:37:04.610 --> 00:37:08.770 align:middle line:84%
is what we call the warm
glow model of giving.

00:37:08.770 --> 00:37:11.310 align:middle line:90%
Now, this is like altruism.

00:37:11.310 --> 00:37:13.690 align:middle line:84%
It has the same net result,
but an important modeling

00:37:13.690 --> 00:37:15.050 align:middle line:90%
difference.

00:37:15.050 --> 00:37:19.570 align:middle line:84%
The warm glow model is,
not that I care about you,

00:37:19.570 --> 00:37:22.875 align:middle line:84%
but that I get utility
from contributing.

00:37:22.875 --> 00:37:24.250 align:middle line:84%
So in the fireworks,
literally, I

00:37:24.250 --> 00:37:26.170 align:middle line:84%
get jollies from
lighting them off.

00:37:26.170 --> 00:37:27.590 align:middle line:90%
It's literally a warm glow.

00:37:27.590 --> 00:37:29.153 align:middle line:84%
It's not where it
then comes from.

00:37:29.153 --> 00:37:31.570 align:middle line:84%
But literally, if I get some
utility was setting them off,

00:37:31.570 --> 00:37:36.410 align:middle line:84%
then in my utility
function is your fireworks

00:37:36.410 --> 00:37:37.410 align:middle line:90%
because of that utility.

00:37:37.410 --> 00:37:41.410 align:middle line:84%
Or more generally,
if I get utility--

00:37:41.410 --> 00:37:46.930 align:middle line:84%
this is why churches and
temples are filled with plaques

00:37:46.930 --> 00:37:49.150 align:middle line:84%
and everybody's
name is everywhere.

00:37:49.150 --> 00:37:50.650 align:middle line:84%
People give partly
because they want

00:37:50.650 --> 00:37:53.890 align:middle line:90%
to see their name on a plaque.

00:37:53.890 --> 00:37:57.390 align:middle line:84%
If I give, because I want
to see my name on a plaque,

00:37:57.390 --> 00:37:59.050 align:middle line:90%
that is not altruism.

00:37:59.050 --> 00:38:01.880 align:middle line:84%
I literally get
utility of giving.

00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:03.960 align:middle line:90%
And that's the warm glow model.

00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:05.900 align:middle line:84%
Now, it ends up with
similar outcomes,

00:38:05.900 --> 00:38:08.880 align:middle line:90%
but it's a very different model.

00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.160 align:middle line:84%
The altruistic
utility function is

00:38:12.160 --> 00:38:15.960 align:middle line:84%
one where your utilities
and my utility function.

00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.760 align:middle line:84%
The warm glow utility
function, is where my giving

00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.320 align:middle line:90%
is in my utility function.

00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:25.480 align:middle line:84%
Very different-- I get
utility from my giving.

00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.240 align:middle line:84%
It's similar effects
but different models.

00:38:30.240 --> 00:38:37.620 align:middle line:84%
So that's basically the bottom
line on private provision.

00:38:37.620 --> 00:38:40.480 align:middle line:84%
Private provision will never
achieve the first best.

00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.280 align:middle line:84%
But in certain conditions,
it can get close Questions

00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.400 align:middle line:90%
about that?

00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:48.240 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, Enoch.

00:38:48.240 --> 00:38:50.000 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: How similar
in this context

00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.520 align:middle line:84%
is altruism from
having an information,

00:38:52.520 --> 00:38:54.640 align:middle line:84%
I guess, asymmetry,
in the sense that if I

00:38:54.640 --> 00:38:58.370 align:middle line:84%
know what my neighbor's utility
function is, I guess, right?

00:38:58.370 --> 00:39:00.120 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: No, but
if I'm not altruistic,

00:39:00.120 --> 00:39:01.547 align:middle line:90%
I would exploit that.

00:39:01.547 --> 00:39:02.880 align:middle line:90%
That wouldn't solve the problem.

00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.580 align:middle line:84%
That would make it
worse at one level.

00:39:05.580 --> 00:39:08.417 align:middle line:90%
But no, that's actually is here.

00:39:08.417 --> 00:39:10.500 align:middle line:84%
So here, I do know my
neighbor's utility function.

00:39:10.500 --> 00:39:12.620 align:middle line:90%
So imagine I didn't know.

00:39:12.620 --> 00:39:15.160 align:middle line:84%
Well, that would just introduce
uncertainty to this model.

00:39:15.160 --> 00:39:16.820 align:middle line:84%
I'd be guessing,
then, in which way--

00:39:16.820 --> 00:39:17.820 align:middle line:84%
I don't know which
way I'm biased.

00:39:17.820 --> 00:39:18.695 align:middle line:90%
That would affect it.

00:39:18.695 --> 00:39:21.300 align:middle line:84%
But it wouldn't change the
fundamental underprovision.

00:39:21.300 --> 00:39:22.300 align:middle line:90%
Good question.

00:39:22.300 --> 00:39:23.560 align:middle line:90%
Other questions about this?

00:39:23.560 --> 00:39:26.220 align:middle line:90%


00:39:26.220 --> 00:39:27.940 align:middle line:84%
OK, so if the
private market is not

00:39:27.940 --> 00:39:30.700 align:middle line:84%
going to get us to
the optimum, then we

00:39:30.700 --> 00:39:34.380 align:middle line:84%
go to the next question on
public finance, which is

00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:37.140 align:middle line:90%
what should the government do?

00:39:37.140 --> 00:39:41.100 align:middle line:84%
Or how should the
government intervene?

00:39:41.100 --> 00:39:44.980 align:middle line:84%
Well, before I get to that,
what we're going to do-- here's

00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:47.860 align:middle line:84%
the way that this sequence
of lectures is going to work,

00:39:47.860 --> 00:39:51.793 align:middle line:84%
which this is an
overview of public goods.

00:39:51.793 --> 00:39:53.460 align:middle line:84%
And then the next
three lectures will be

00:39:53.460 --> 00:39:56.290 align:middle line:90%
applications of public goods.

00:39:56.290 --> 00:39:59.650 align:middle line:84%
So this overview,
I'm going to talk

00:39:59.650 --> 00:40:03.490 align:middle line:84%
about the three fundamental
challenges facing

00:40:03.490 --> 00:40:06.370 align:middle line:84%
public provision
of public goods.

00:40:06.370 --> 00:40:09.743 align:middle line:84%
In the next three lectures we'll
talk about those challenges.

00:40:09.743 --> 00:40:11.410 align:middle line:84%
So in other words,
what I'm going to say

00:40:11.410 --> 00:40:14.230 align:middle line:84%
is-- this is the key
lesson from this class,

00:40:14.230 --> 00:40:16.370 align:middle line:90%
lest we be too liberal.

00:40:16.370 --> 00:40:19.970 align:middle line:84%
Market failure means that
government has the potential

00:40:19.970 --> 00:40:24.050 align:middle line:84%
to fix things, but not that
government necessarily will.

00:40:24.050 --> 00:40:26.033 align:middle line:84%
And what I talk about
here, so far, government

00:40:26.033 --> 00:40:26.950 align:middle line:90%
has been the good guy.

00:40:26.950 --> 00:40:28.550 align:middle line:84%
We have an externality,
someone comes in and fixes it.

00:40:28.550 --> 00:40:29.450 align:middle line:90%
Yay.

00:40:29.450 --> 00:40:31.748 align:middle line:84%
But in fact, that's
not always true.

00:40:31.748 --> 00:40:33.290 align:middle line:84%
And so we're going
to talk about here

00:40:33.290 --> 00:40:37.330 align:middle line:84%
is reasons why
public provision may

00:40:37.330 --> 00:40:40.850 align:middle line:90%
fail to get us to the optimum.

00:40:40.850 --> 00:40:46.270 align:middle line:84%
And there's three reasons why
public provision may fail.

00:40:46.270 --> 00:40:48.870 align:middle line:84%
The first is the
problem of crowd out.

00:40:48.870 --> 00:40:51.970 align:middle line:90%


00:40:51.970 --> 00:40:56.510 align:middle line:84%
The first is the problem
of crowd out, which

00:40:56.510 --> 00:41:01.070 align:middle line:84%
is when the government comes
in, part of what it will do

00:41:01.070 --> 00:41:03.750 align:middle line:84%
is just displace what
people are already

00:41:03.750 --> 00:41:06.830 align:middle line:84%
doing, rather than
actually increasing

00:41:06.830 --> 00:41:09.790 align:middle line:90%
the amount of the public good.

00:41:09.790 --> 00:41:12.750 align:middle line:84%
So to see that, let's
make three assumptions

00:41:12.750 --> 00:41:15.110 align:middle line:90%
in the firework example.

00:41:15.110 --> 00:41:17.550 align:middle line:84%
First of all, let's
assume there's

00:41:17.550 --> 00:41:19.350 align:middle line:90%
no warm glow or altruism.

00:41:19.350 --> 00:41:21.510 align:middle line:84%
Ben and Jerry just
care about total f.

00:41:21.510 --> 00:41:25.230 align:middle line:84%
They don't care who contributes,
no warm glow of altruism.

00:41:25.230 --> 00:41:29.350 align:middle line:84%
Second of all, let's say that
in this symmetric example,

00:41:29.350 --> 00:41:32.218 align:middle line:84%
the government will charge
Ben and Jerry equal amounts.

00:41:32.218 --> 00:41:33.510 align:middle line:90%
So there'll be equal financing.

00:41:33.510 --> 00:41:35.343 align:middle line:84%
Just because they're
individuals, identical,

00:41:35.343 --> 00:41:38.030 align:middle line:90%
we'll have equal financing.

00:41:38.030 --> 00:41:43.430 align:middle line:84%
Finally, we're going to
assume the government provides

00:41:43.430 --> 00:41:47.970 align:middle line:84%
fewer fireworks than were
provided individually.

00:41:47.970 --> 00:41:50.430 align:middle line:84%
The government is going
to provide fewer fireworks

00:41:50.430 --> 00:41:52.190 align:middle line:90%
than the private optimum--

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less than 40.

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Under those three conditions, I
will now show you mathematically

00:41:59.500 --> 00:42:03.460 align:middle line:84%
that government
provision does nothing.

00:42:03.460 --> 00:42:05.260 align:middle line:90%
Let's see that mathematically.

00:42:05.260 --> 00:42:14.380 align:middle line:84%
So under those conditions,
remember that basically--

00:42:14.380 --> 00:42:17.420 align:middle line:84%
we said in the original example,
total fireworks under-provided

00:42:17.420 --> 00:42:18.527 align:middle line:90%
by 26.6.

00:42:18.527 --> 00:42:19.360 align:middle line:90%
It's covered up now.

00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.980 align:middle line:84%
But I said the social optimum
is 66.6, private is 40.

00:42:22.980 --> 00:42:24.915 align:middle line:90%
So 26.6 is the underprovision.

00:42:24.915 --> 00:42:26.540 align:middle line:84%
So imagine the
government says, well, I

00:42:26.540 --> 00:42:28.100 align:middle line:90%
know how to solve this problem.

00:42:28.100 --> 00:42:31.340 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to charge
Ben and Jerry each 13.3

00:42:31.340 --> 00:42:33.420 align:middle line:90%
and have public fireworks.

00:42:33.420 --> 00:42:35.740 align:middle line:84%
So they'll provide
their 40 privately.

00:42:35.740 --> 00:42:38.260 align:middle line:90%
I'll provide my 26 extra.

00:42:38.260 --> 00:42:39.840 align:middle line:84%
And I'll pay for it
by charging them.

00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.500 align:middle line:90%
I'll force them to contribute.

00:42:43.500 --> 00:42:48.460 align:middle line:84%
So what I do is set up a tax
on each of them of 13.33.

00:42:48.460 --> 00:42:53.730 align:middle line:84%
Now their utility functions
become u equals 2 times

00:42:53.730 --> 00:43:12.570 align:middle line:84%
log x 2 times log x plus
log fB plus fj plus 26.6,

00:43:12.570 --> 00:43:15.170 align:middle line:84%
because they're getting
26.6 extra fireworks

00:43:15.170 --> 00:43:17.490 align:middle line:90%
from the government.

00:43:17.490 --> 00:43:24.050 align:middle line:84%
But subject to the budget
constraint that x plus x sub i

00:43:24.050 --> 00:43:27.570 align:middle line:84%
plus f sub i--
these are all i's.

00:43:27.570 --> 00:43:32.970 align:middle line:84%
x sub i plus f sub i
equals 100 minus 13.3

00:43:32.970 --> 00:43:34.390 align:middle line:90%
So here's the new problem.

00:43:34.390 --> 00:43:36.243 align:middle line:90%
We're taxing 13.3.

00:43:36.243 --> 00:43:37.910 align:middle line:84%
That comes out of the
budget constraint.

00:43:37.910 --> 00:43:42.090 align:middle line:84%
And we're giving an
extra 26.6 fireworks.

00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:44.930 align:middle line:90%
People understand that setup?

00:43:44.930 --> 00:43:50.470 align:middle line:84%
If you solve this, you will find
that each individual chooses

00:43:50.470 --> 00:43:54.670 align:middle line:84%
to provide 20, and the
total remains at 40.

00:43:54.670 --> 00:43:57.910 align:middle line:84%
That is, we will get what
we call full crowd out,

00:43:57.910 --> 00:44:02.310 align:middle line:84%
full displacement of
the public expenditure

00:44:02.310 --> 00:44:04.970 align:middle line:84%
by reduced private
contributions.

00:44:04.970 --> 00:44:06.470 align:middle line:90%
Why?

00:44:06.470 --> 00:44:09.970 align:middle line:90%


00:44:09.970 --> 00:44:12.930 align:middle line:84%
Why will government intervention
in this case make no difference?

00:44:12.930 --> 00:44:21.790 align:middle line:90%


00:44:21.790 --> 00:44:22.330 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:44:22.330 --> 00:44:27.710 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] Ben and
Jerry are purchasing the 13.3,

00:44:27.710 --> 00:44:29.248 align:middle line:90%
it's just, they're not directly.

00:44:29.248 --> 00:44:30.790 align:middle line:84%
They're going through
the government.

00:44:30.790 --> 00:44:33.480 align:middle line:84%
So now they'll just subtract
that off [INAUDIBLE].

00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:34.230 align:middle line:90%
JON GRUBER: Right.

00:44:34.230 --> 00:44:39.150 align:middle line:84%
Remember, economic equilibria
are fundamentally robust.

00:44:39.150 --> 00:44:42.530 align:middle line:84%
And if the government intervenes
in a way that can be undone,

00:44:42.530 --> 00:44:44.310 align:middle line:90%
it will be undone.

00:44:44.310 --> 00:44:47.150 align:middle line:84%
Government interventions
only matter if they

00:44:47.150 --> 00:44:48.233 align:middle line:90%
can't be perfectly undone.

00:44:48.233 --> 00:44:50.942 align:middle line:84%
And literally, you can perfectly
undo the government intervention

00:44:50.942 --> 00:44:51.500 align:middle line:90%
here.

00:44:51.500 --> 00:44:53.160 align:middle line:84%
There's no distortion,
nothing else.

00:44:53.160 --> 00:44:55.880 align:middle line:84%
You just literally say, fine,
I'll provide 13.3 less myself.

00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:56.960 align:middle line:90%
I'll be back where I was.

00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:58.860 align:middle line:84%
And remember, that's
where I want to be.

00:44:58.860 --> 00:45:01.260 align:middle line:90%
I already showed you my optimum.

00:45:01.260 --> 00:45:03.220 align:middle line:84%
I can get back to
that same optimum

00:45:03.220 --> 00:45:08.340 align:middle line:84%
by just lowering my
contributions from 20 to 6.66.

00:45:08.340 --> 00:45:10.900 align:middle line:84%
And boom, I'm back
to the optimum.

00:45:10.900 --> 00:45:13.478 align:middle line:84%
People, we already know
where they're happiest.

00:45:13.478 --> 00:45:15.020 align:middle line:84%
If the government
intervention allows

00:45:15.020 --> 00:45:17.145 align:middle line:84%
them to get exactly back
to where they're happiest,

00:45:17.145 --> 00:45:18.340 align:middle line:90%
they'll do so.

00:45:18.340 --> 00:45:19.800 align:middle line:84%
So under these
assumptions I made,

00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:23.180 align:middle line:90%
there will be full crowd out.

00:45:23.180 --> 00:45:26.220 align:middle line:84%
That is, government
intervention will not actually

00:45:26.220 --> 00:45:30.420 align:middle line:90%
increase the level of provision.

00:45:30.420 --> 00:45:33.127 align:middle line:90%
Questions about that?

00:45:33.127 --> 00:45:33.960 align:middle line:90%
Folks look confused.

00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.220 align:middle line:90%
So please ask.

00:45:37.220 --> 00:45:38.000 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, Enoch.

00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.740 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: For example, if you
think about government donating

00:45:40.740 --> 00:45:43.740 align:middle line:84%
to charity, like in the
sense of we pay taxes,

00:45:43.740 --> 00:45:46.340 align:middle line:84%
instead of us giving to charity,
government gives to charity.

00:45:46.340 --> 00:45:46.840 align:middle line:90%
Would that be an example of--

00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:48.590 align:middle line:90%
JON GRUBER: That's an example.

00:45:48.590 --> 00:45:52.650 align:middle line:84%
Now, this full credit
will almost never happen.

00:45:52.650 --> 00:45:56.370 align:middle line:84%
In your example, why would it
not lead to full crowd out?

00:45:56.370 --> 00:46:00.630 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: People still
have utility from giving.

00:46:00.630 --> 00:46:03.730 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Let's
take that out of it.

00:46:03.730 --> 00:46:04.352 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:46:04.352 --> 00:46:05.810 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: The
government's probably

00:46:05.810 --> 00:46:08.070 align:middle line:84%
paying for the taxes for someone
who wasn't going to donate.

00:46:08.070 --> 00:46:09.010 align:middle line:90%
JON GRUBER: Exactly.

00:46:09.010 --> 00:46:11.850 align:middle line:84%
The key thing is
in my example, I

00:46:11.850 --> 00:46:14.370 align:middle line:84%
set it up so the people
were taxed in proportion

00:46:14.370 --> 00:46:16.650 align:middle line:90%
to their contributions.

00:46:16.650 --> 00:46:20.010 align:middle line:84%
Imagine a world where
the government comes in

00:46:20.010 --> 00:46:23.970 align:middle line:84%
and the government actually
taxes some people who

00:46:23.970 --> 00:46:25.410 align:middle line:90%
weren't contributing before.

00:46:25.410 --> 00:46:29.250 align:middle line:90%
Well, then the total will go up.

00:46:29.250 --> 00:46:30.890 align:middle line:84%
Remember, the key
assumption I made

00:46:30.890 --> 00:46:34.010 align:middle line:84%
is that each individual
is taxed by less than what

00:46:34.010 --> 00:46:35.890 align:middle line:90%
they were contributing before.

00:46:35.890 --> 00:46:38.430 align:middle line:84%
Once everyone is taxed by
more than contributing before,

00:46:38.430 --> 00:46:40.490 align:middle line:90%
then you'll get more.

00:46:40.490 --> 00:46:45.070 align:middle line:84%
So crowding out is
unlikely to ever be full.

00:46:45.070 --> 00:46:47.350 align:middle line:84%
Credit's unlikely
to ever be full.

00:46:47.350 --> 00:46:49.870 align:middle line:84%
But it almost
certainly will always

00:46:49.870 --> 00:46:52.910 align:middle line:84%
be partial because
there will always

00:46:52.910 --> 00:46:55.650 align:middle line:84%
be some view that, if the
government is contributing,

00:46:55.650 --> 00:46:56.997 align:middle line:90%
I can contribute less.

00:46:56.997 --> 00:46:58.830 align:middle line:84%
And it's like my example,
leaving the subway

00:46:58.830 --> 00:47:00.550 align:middle line:90%
and seeing the homeless guy.

00:47:00.550 --> 00:47:02.510 align:middle line:84%
You're being crowded
out by the fact

00:47:02.510 --> 00:47:05.030 align:middle line:84%
that other people
are there giving.

00:47:05.030 --> 00:47:07.330 align:middle line:84%
Now, there's a lot of
studies of crowd out.

00:47:07.330 --> 00:47:09.550 align:middle line:84%
Most of them are
in lab settings.

00:47:09.550 --> 00:47:11.670 align:middle line:84%
And they find very
strong evidence

00:47:11.670 --> 00:47:14.510 align:middle line:90%
for the existence of crowd out.

00:47:14.510 --> 00:47:19.830 align:middle line:84%
They find very strong evidence
for the existence of crowd out.

00:47:19.830 --> 00:47:23.450 align:middle line:90%
Anyway, I can't find it.

00:47:23.450 --> 00:47:27.070 align:middle line:84%
But there's a lot of examples
of basically where they

00:47:27.070 --> 00:47:29.907 align:middle line:84%
do laboratory studies where they
essentially operationalize crowd

00:47:29.907 --> 00:47:31.990 align:middle line:84%
out, where they basically
have the government come

00:47:31.990 --> 00:47:34.190 align:middle line:84%
in and substitute in
for your contributions.

00:47:34.190 --> 00:47:38.390 align:middle line:84%
In those lab studies, they
find a lot of crowd out.

00:47:38.390 --> 00:47:41.150 align:middle line:84%
In real-world empirical studies,
the crowd out, people find,

00:47:41.150 --> 00:47:43.230 align:middle line:90%
is much smaller.

00:47:43.230 --> 00:47:45.660 align:middle line:84%
So I would say lab studies
suggests that crowd out

00:47:45.660 --> 00:47:47.660 align:middle line:90%
can be close to full.

00:47:47.660 --> 00:47:51.520 align:middle line:84%
Real world says crowd out is
less than 50% in many contexts.

00:47:51.520 --> 00:47:54.360 align:middle line:84%
But it's hugely
context-dependent,

00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.443 align:middle line:84%
and this is a term we'll use
a ton throughout the course.

00:47:57.443 --> 00:47:58.860 align:middle line:84%
Basically, it's
going to come back

00:47:58.860 --> 00:48:00.860 align:middle line:84%
to crowd out, which
is to what extent

00:48:00.860 --> 00:48:04.460 align:middle line:84%
does government contribution
displace private contribution?

00:48:04.460 --> 00:48:06.460 align:middle line:84%
Here, it's a [INAUDIBLE]
financial contribution.

00:48:06.460 --> 00:48:08.540 align:middle line:84%
In health insurance, we'll talk
about private health insurance

00:48:08.540 --> 00:48:10.140 align:middle line:84%
versus a public
health insurance.

00:48:10.140 --> 00:48:11.230 align:middle line:84%
And unemployment
insurance-- we'll

00:48:11.230 --> 00:48:13.605 align:middle line:84%
talk about your savings versus
the unemployment insurance

00:48:13.605 --> 00:48:14.113 align:middle line:90%
benefit.

00:48:14.113 --> 00:48:15.280 align:middle line:90%
But it's all the same thing.

00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.860 align:middle line:84%
It's the notion that you
can contribute privately.

00:48:17.860 --> 00:48:19.940 align:middle line:84%
So the government rolls
in and contributes.

00:48:19.940 --> 00:48:22.300 align:middle line:84%
That will offset your
private contributions.

00:48:22.300 --> 00:48:27.060 align:middle line:84%
And the extent to which it
will is an empirical question.

00:48:27.060 --> 00:48:27.560 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:48:27.560 --> 00:48:29.200 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: As long as the
government's efficient,

00:48:29.200 --> 00:48:31.460 align:middle line:84%
it doesn't matter if there's
crowd out, necessarily?

00:48:31.460 --> 00:48:33.460 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Well, that's
a great question, which

00:48:33.460 --> 00:48:36.180 align:middle line:84%
is what's the welfare
consequence of crowd out?

00:48:36.180 --> 00:48:39.460 align:middle line:84%
If the government
has free money,

00:48:39.460 --> 00:48:41.440 align:middle line:84%
then there's no
welfare consequences.

00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:45.010 align:middle line:84%
But in fact, money isn't free
when money's raised by taxation.

00:48:45.010 --> 00:48:46.810 align:middle line:84%
Now, in this case,
it is free money

00:48:46.810 --> 00:48:49.710 align:middle line:84%
because I don't have a
distortion margin here.

00:48:49.710 --> 00:48:51.610 align:middle line:84%
But if I had Ben
and Jerry working

00:48:51.610 --> 00:48:53.965 align:middle line:84%
and they could lower the
tax burden by working less,

00:48:53.965 --> 00:48:56.090 align:middle line:84%
that would be a distortion
and make life worse than

00:48:56.090 --> 00:48:58.213 align:middle line:90%
if the government didn't do it.

00:48:58.213 --> 00:49:00.130 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: But it could
also be that they could

00:49:00.130 --> 00:49:01.310 align:middle line:90%
produce fireworks cheaper.

00:49:01.310 --> 00:49:02.810 align:middle line:84%
So the cost to the
government [INAUDIBLE].

00:49:02.810 --> 00:49:04.727 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Right, so
what if the government's

00:49:04.727 --> 00:49:06.750 align:middle line:90%
cheaper producing them?

00:49:06.750 --> 00:49:08.015 align:middle line:90%
So you're absolutely right.

00:49:08.015 --> 00:49:10.390 align:middle line:84%
In the real world, that would
depend on a lot of factors.

00:49:10.390 --> 00:49:11.530 align:middle line:84%
One is the crowd
out would depend

00:49:11.530 --> 00:49:12.650 align:middle line:90%
on the efficiency of producing.

00:49:12.650 --> 00:49:14.490 align:middle line:84%
Like maybe the government is
better producing health insurers

00:49:14.490 --> 00:49:15.650 align:middle line:90%
than the private sector.

00:49:15.650 --> 00:49:18.250 align:middle line:84%
So even if it crowds it out,
that's still a good thing.

00:49:18.250 --> 00:49:20.633 align:middle line:84%
It will also depend a lot
on how bad crowd out is.

00:49:20.633 --> 00:49:23.050 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes we crowd out things
that people are doing, which

00:49:23.050 --> 00:49:25.130 align:middle line:90%
we wish they weren't doing.

00:49:25.130 --> 00:49:28.698 align:middle line:84%
So for example, talking
about unemployment insurance,

00:49:28.698 --> 00:49:30.490 align:middle line:84%
one way people react
to being unemployed is

00:49:30.490 --> 00:49:33.450 align:middle line:84%
by their spouses going to
work, even if the spouses would

00:49:33.450 --> 00:49:34.255 align:middle line:90%
prefer not to work.

00:49:34.255 --> 00:49:36.130 align:middle line:84%
Well, in that case, if
unemployment insurance

00:49:36.130 --> 00:49:38.790 align:middle line:84%
allows the spouse to stay home
and take care of the kids,

00:49:38.790 --> 00:49:40.270 align:middle line:84%
maybe that's not
such a bad thing.

00:49:40.270 --> 00:49:41.530 align:middle line:90%
But we call it crowd out.

00:49:41.530 --> 00:49:42.030 align:middle line:90%
So

00:49:42.030 --> 00:49:44.710 align:middle line:84%
The welfare consequences
crowd are very much dependent

00:49:44.710 --> 00:49:46.190 align:middle line:84%
on the efficiency
of the government

00:49:46.190 --> 00:49:47.690 align:middle line:90%
versus the private provision.

00:49:47.690 --> 00:49:48.610 align:middle line:90%
It's a great point.

00:49:48.610 --> 00:49:50.735 align:middle line:84%
In this case, I assume they
were equally efficient,

00:49:50.735 --> 00:49:53.950 align:middle line:84%
so there's not really
any welfare consequences.

00:49:53.950 --> 00:49:54.810 align:middle line:90%
Great question.

00:49:54.810 --> 00:49:57.070 align:middle line:90%
Other questions?

00:49:57.070 --> 00:50:01.910 align:middle line:84%
So that's the first
problem that we have.

00:50:01.910 --> 00:50:04.390 align:middle line:90%
The first problem is crowd out.

00:50:04.390 --> 00:50:07.310 align:middle line:84%
The second problem
with public provision

00:50:07.310 --> 00:50:09.530 align:middle line:90%
is the problem of measurement.

00:50:09.530 --> 00:50:16.310 align:middle line:90%


00:50:16.310 --> 00:50:20.310 align:middle line:84%
I've written down the Samuelson
formula, which is the sum of MRS

00:50:20.310 --> 00:50:21.410 align:middle line:90%
equals the MRT.

00:50:21.410 --> 00:50:23.950 align:middle line:90%


00:50:23.950 --> 00:50:25.750 align:middle line:84%
Well, that does you
no good if you're

00:50:25.750 --> 00:50:28.510 align:middle line:84%
trying to decide whether
to build a bridge or not.

00:50:28.510 --> 00:50:29.590 align:middle line:90%
We don't know people--

00:50:29.590 --> 00:50:31.390 align:middle line:90%
people don't have MRSs.

00:50:31.390 --> 00:50:34.050 align:middle line:84%
And we sort of have MRTs, we
know relative marginal costs.

00:50:34.050 --> 00:50:36.230 align:middle line:90%
We certainly don't have MRSs.

00:50:36.230 --> 00:50:39.180 align:middle line:84%
So we have to figure out
how to actually measure

00:50:39.180 --> 00:50:42.060 align:middle line:90%
costs and benefits in reality.

00:50:42.060 --> 00:50:44.200 align:middle line:84%
We can't just use-- that's
the theoretical concept.

00:50:44.200 --> 00:50:45.950 align:middle line:84%
And that leads to the
entire field of what

00:50:45.950 --> 00:50:47.840 align:middle line:90%
we call cost-benefit analysis.

00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:51.780 align:middle line:90%


00:50:51.780 --> 00:50:53.820 align:middle line:84%
We will discuss this
next time in chapter 8,

00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:55.140 align:middle line:90%
or we may start today.

00:50:55.140 --> 00:50:57.220 align:middle line:84%
This is probably the
most single thing

00:50:57.220 --> 00:50:59.800 align:middle line:84%
that-- if you look at all
economists around the world,

00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:01.060 align:middle line:84%
in the real world,
probably the single thing

00:51:01.060 --> 00:51:02.580 align:middle line:84%
they spend the most
time on is doing

00:51:02.580 --> 00:51:05.140 align:middle line:84%
some or another version of
cost-benefit analysis, which

00:51:05.140 --> 00:51:08.900 align:middle line:84%
is actually quantifying costs
and benefits that will lead

00:51:08.900 --> 00:51:11.540 align:middle line:84%
to-- so you can actually decide
if it's a decision worth making

00:51:11.540 --> 00:51:12.460 align:middle line:90%
or not.

00:51:12.460 --> 00:51:14.660 align:middle line:84%
So chapter 8 will be
about how do we literally

00:51:14.660 --> 00:51:18.700 align:middle line:84%
translate this theoretical
construct into real measurement.

00:51:18.700 --> 00:51:22.900 align:middle line:84%
The third problem is, let's
say we know what's optimal.

00:51:22.900 --> 00:51:24.860 align:middle line:84%
We know how much
crowd out there is.

00:51:24.860 --> 00:51:26.580 align:middle line:90%
We know how to measure it.

00:51:26.580 --> 00:51:28.580 align:middle line:84%
We know how to measure
the cost of benefits.

00:51:28.580 --> 00:51:31.520 align:middle line:84%
The question is, how do
we measure preferences?

00:51:31.520 --> 00:51:35.540 align:middle line:90%


00:51:35.540 --> 00:51:38.390 align:middle line:84%
And here, in other
words, how do we--

00:51:38.390 --> 00:51:40.870 align:middle line:84%
we're a society of
360 million people.

00:51:40.870 --> 00:51:44.250 align:middle line:84%
How do we decide whether
or not to do a public good?

00:51:44.250 --> 00:51:47.490 align:middle line:84%
Because in fact, we don't have
just one dictatorial public

00:51:47.490 --> 00:51:48.030 align:middle line:90%
planner.

00:51:48.030 --> 00:51:50.130 align:middle line:90%
We have a democracy.

00:51:50.130 --> 00:51:54.450 align:middle line:84%
And that raises three
critical problems.

00:51:54.450 --> 00:51:59.490 align:middle line:84%
The first problem is
preference revelation,

00:51:59.490 --> 00:52:02.170 align:middle line:84%
which is we need to know
people's preferences.

00:52:02.170 --> 00:52:06.570 align:middle line:84%
And if we ask us to tell
them, they may not be honest.

00:52:06.570 --> 00:52:10.370 align:middle line:84%
The second problem
is the problem

00:52:10.370 --> 00:52:15.290 align:middle line:84%
of preference knowledge,
which is people may not even

00:52:15.290 --> 00:52:16.967 align:middle line:90%
know their preferences.

00:52:16.967 --> 00:52:19.050 align:middle line:84%
I mean, do you know what
a missile is worth to you

00:52:19.050 --> 00:52:19.883 align:middle line:90%
in terms of cookies?

00:52:19.883 --> 00:52:22.650 align:middle line:84%
You have no fucking idea,
so you might not even

00:52:22.650 --> 00:52:23.670 align:middle line:90%
know your preferences.

00:52:23.670 --> 00:52:25.130 align:middle line:90%
He's saying seven cookies.

00:52:25.130 --> 00:52:31.090 align:middle line:84%
OK, you may not even know your
preferences, so this knowledge.

00:52:31.090 --> 00:52:34.390 align:middle line:84%
The final problem
is aggregation.

00:52:34.390 --> 00:52:37.005 align:middle line:90%


00:52:37.005 --> 00:52:41.170 align:middle line:84%
Let's say that you know your
preferences and you're honest.

00:52:41.170 --> 00:52:43.830 align:middle line:84%
How do I collect all
those preferences

00:52:43.830 --> 00:52:47.220 align:middle line:84%
in a way that effectively
aggregates them?

00:52:47.220 --> 00:52:49.470 align:middle line:84%
That turns out to be hard
to do for reasons we'll talk

00:52:49.470 --> 00:52:50.930 align:middle line:90%
about when we do chapter 9.

00:52:50.930 --> 00:52:55.750 align:middle line:84%
This all leads to the field of
political economy in chapter 9--

00:52:55.750 --> 00:52:59.910 align:middle line:90%
political econ in chapter 9.

00:52:59.910 --> 00:53:03.870 align:middle line:90%
So this is really the key.

00:53:03.870 --> 00:53:06.830 align:middle line:84%
The key insights of chapter
7 are the following.

00:53:06.830 --> 00:53:10.750 align:middle line:84%
A-- optimal provision
of public goods

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is where the sum of
the MRS equals the MRT.

00:53:14.350 --> 00:53:17.310 align:middle line:84%
B-- the private sector
is unlikely to achieve

00:53:17.310 --> 00:53:23.470 align:middle line:84%
that optimum due to
the free rider problem.

00:53:23.470 --> 00:53:26.250 align:middle line:84%
C-- or was it A,
B, C or 1, 2, 3?

00:53:26.250 --> 00:53:29.470 align:middle line:84%
Whatever the third
thing is on my list.

00:53:29.470 --> 00:53:33.150 align:middle line:84%
The public sector itself
faces challenges also

00:53:33.150 --> 00:53:35.720 align:middle line:90%
in solving this problem.

00:53:35.720 --> 00:53:38.797 align:middle line:84%
And those challenges are
what we'll turn to next.

00:53:38.797 --> 00:53:40.880 align:middle line:84%
Now, I want to cover one
last thing for chapter 7.

00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:42.463 align:middle line:84%
I won't give it as
much time because I

00:53:42.463 --> 00:53:43.580 align:middle line:90%
want to get to chapter 8.

00:53:43.580 --> 00:53:46.060 align:middle line:84%
But there's an awesome
box in chapter 7

00:53:46.060 --> 00:53:48.900 align:middle line:84%
about the fundamental
challenge the government faces

00:53:48.900 --> 00:53:52.080 align:middle line:84%
in deciding whether to provide
things publicly or privately.

00:53:52.080 --> 00:53:56.340 align:middle line:84%
And this is the problem we
call contracting out, which is,

00:53:56.340 --> 00:54:00.020 align:middle line:84%
let's say the government knows
there's too little of something.

00:54:00.020 --> 00:54:03.060 align:middle line:84%
There's fundamentally two
ways it can address that.

00:54:03.060 --> 00:54:07.940 align:middle line:84%
It can address that by
providing it or by--

00:54:07.940 --> 00:54:10.720 align:middle line:84%
let's say the government wants
there to be more of something.

00:54:10.720 --> 00:54:12.887 align:middle line:84%
There's two ways it can--
and not the only two ways,

00:54:12.887 --> 00:54:15.380 align:middle line:84%
but two ways it can address
that is by providing it

00:54:15.380 --> 00:54:18.005 align:middle line:84%
or by hiring other private
parties to provide it.

00:54:18.005 --> 00:54:19.380 align:middle line:84%
So should the
government directly

00:54:19.380 --> 00:54:22.340 align:middle line:84%
provide something
or contract out?

00:54:22.340 --> 00:54:24.540 align:middle line:84%
And it turns out
contracting out raises

00:54:24.540 --> 00:54:27.300 align:middle line:84%
a host of fascinating
issues around how do you

00:54:27.300 --> 00:54:30.140 align:middle line:84%
write private contracts to
get the outcome you want?

00:54:30.140 --> 00:54:33.587 align:middle line:84%
And there's great examples
of all sorts of shenanigans

00:54:33.587 --> 00:54:34.670 align:middle line:90%
when the government tries.

00:54:34.670 --> 00:54:36.310 align:middle line:84%
There's an example of
good contracting out,

00:54:36.310 --> 00:54:37.643 align:middle line:90%
but that's no fun to talk about.

00:54:37.643 --> 00:54:39.370 align:middle line:84%
Let's talk about
the shenanigans.

00:54:39.370 --> 00:54:43.290 align:middle line:84%
The shenanigans are
that basically, what we

00:54:43.290 --> 00:54:44.890 align:middle line:84%
find is a number
of studies which

00:54:44.890 --> 00:54:50.370 align:middle line:84%
show that when the government
contracts out social services,

00:54:50.370 --> 00:54:54.570 align:middle line:90%
it gets low-quality outcomes.

00:54:54.570 --> 00:54:56.550 align:middle line:84%
When it contracts
out ambulances,

00:54:56.550 --> 00:55:00.450 align:middle line:84%
prisons-- private prisons
have 10% more deaths

00:55:00.450 --> 00:55:02.210 align:middle line:90%
than public prisons.

00:55:02.210 --> 00:55:05.030 align:middle line:84%
Halfway houses-- horror
stories about halfway houses,

00:55:05.030 --> 00:55:09.443 align:middle line:84%
which are places people go when
they're trying to get clean.

00:55:09.443 --> 00:55:11.610 align:middle line:84%
There's horrible stories
of halfway houses being run

00:55:11.610 --> 00:55:14.930 align:middle line:84%
by for-profit private
enterprises that basically,

00:55:14.930 --> 00:55:15.830 align:middle line:90%
the government--

00:55:15.830 --> 00:55:18.770 align:middle line:84%
Now, on the other hand,
there's a long, long literature

00:55:18.770 --> 00:55:21.955 align:middle line:84%
that privatization
of many sectors,

00:55:21.955 --> 00:55:23.330 align:middle line:84%
that the government
traditionally

00:55:23.330 --> 00:55:25.650 align:middle line:90%
provided back in the day--

00:55:25.650 --> 00:55:28.130 align:middle line:84%
and in many places in the
world, governments often

00:55:28.130 --> 00:55:33.010 align:middle line:84%
provided things like
steel, airplanes, banks.

00:55:33.010 --> 00:55:34.275 align:middle line:90%
Those were all public.

00:55:34.275 --> 00:55:35.650 align:middle line:84%
Those were all
publicly provided.

00:55:35.650 --> 00:55:37.130 align:middle line:84%
And in many countries
like the US,

00:55:37.130 --> 00:55:38.770 align:middle line:90%
those became privately provided.

00:55:38.770 --> 00:55:41.470 align:middle line:84%
There's a lot of evidence that
when you're providing goods,

00:55:41.470 --> 00:55:44.710 align:middle line:84%
there's efficiencies from the
private sector taking it over.

00:55:44.710 --> 00:55:46.870 align:middle line:84%
But when you're
providing services,

00:55:46.870 --> 00:55:49.175 align:middle line:84%
they get worse when the
private sector takes it over.

00:55:49.175 --> 00:55:50.550 align:middle line:84%
And the fundamental
reason is one

00:55:50.550 --> 00:55:52.430 align:middle line:84%
Coase would have
us focus on, which

00:55:52.430 --> 00:55:56.448 align:middle line:84%
is essentially observability
of quality, which

00:55:56.448 --> 00:55:58.990 align:middle line:84%
is, I can really observe easily
if it's a good piece of steel

00:55:58.990 --> 00:55:59.730 align:middle line:90%
or not.

00:55:59.730 --> 00:56:02.950 align:middle line:84%
It's hard to observe it's a good
prison or good halfway house.

00:56:02.950 --> 00:56:04.770 align:middle line:84%
So when you have less
observable quality,

00:56:04.770 --> 00:56:07.750 align:middle line:84%
which you have with
services, the private sector

00:56:07.750 --> 00:56:09.870 align:middle line:90%
contracting out can have costs.

00:56:09.870 --> 00:56:13.310 align:middle line:84%
Now, they can try to combat
those costs with monitoring.

00:56:13.310 --> 00:56:19.670 align:middle line:84%
So for example, Rikers Island
jail facility in New York City

00:56:19.670 --> 00:56:23.290 align:middle line:90%
had a spate of violence in 2014.

00:56:23.290 --> 00:56:25.970 align:middle line:90%
So they paid McKinsey Company--

00:56:25.970 --> 00:56:29.110 align:middle line:84%
they're bad guys in all
these stories, $27.5 million

00:56:29.110 --> 00:56:31.980 align:middle line:84%
to create a plan to curtail
violence in the faculty.

00:56:31.980 --> 00:56:33.780 align:middle line:84%
Three years later,
McKinsey reported

00:56:33.780 --> 00:56:36.500 align:middle line:84%
that their $27.5 million
plan had succeeded

00:56:36.500 --> 00:56:42.340 align:middle line:84%
and that violence in the
facility had fallen by 70%.

00:56:42.340 --> 00:56:45.460 align:middle line:84%
It turns out McKinsey rigged
the results and violence went up

00:56:45.460 --> 00:56:47.460 align:middle line:90%
by 50%

00:56:47.460 --> 00:56:48.920 align:middle line:90%
That's not even the worst case.

00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:50.920 align:middle line:84%
The worst case involves
one of my favorite names

00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.120 align:middle line:84%
for a company, the
Wackenhut Corporation.

00:56:53.120 --> 00:56:55.340 align:middle line:84%
The Wackenhut
Corporation is in charge

00:56:55.340 --> 00:56:57.700 align:middle line:84%
of ensuring that our
nuclear facilities are

00:56:57.700 --> 00:57:00.060 align:middle line:90%
safe from military attack.

00:57:00.060 --> 00:57:04.305 align:middle line:84%
So they are in charge of
essentially probing and testing

00:57:04.305 --> 00:57:06.680 align:middle line:84%
whether nuclear facilities
are safe from military attack.

00:57:06.680 --> 00:57:09.860 align:middle line:84%
And they're supposed to do
this with simulated attacks.

00:57:09.860 --> 00:57:12.060 align:middle line:84%
It turned out that the
Wackenhut Corporation

00:57:12.060 --> 00:57:14.000 align:middle line:84%
would warn these
nuclear facilities

00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.060 align:middle line:84%
that the attacks were coming
and get paid for those warnings.

00:57:17.060 --> 00:57:20.100 align:middle line:84%
And they all looked super-safe
when they, in fact, weren't.

00:57:20.100 --> 00:57:25.040 align:middle line:84%
So the problem is, when
you're trying to contract out,

00:57:25.040 --> 00:57:26.880 align:middle line:90%
you get potential efficiencies.

00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:30.850 align:middle line:84%
But the monitoring difficulties
can be very, very high.

00:57:30.850 --> 00:57:33.850 align:middle line:84%
And that's a real challenge
in of contracting out world.

00:57:33.850 --> 00:57:35.350 align:middle line:84%
Anyway, it's a long
box in the book,

00:57:35.350 --> 00:57:36.310 align:middle line:90%
but it's kind of fun to read.

00:57:36.310 --> 00:57:37.727 align:middle line:84%
And there's a lot
of fun examples.

00:57:37.727 --> 00:57:41.490 align:middle line:84%
And in some sense, sometimes
the government has no choice,

00:57:41.490 --> 00:57:44.410 align:middle line:84%
or faced difficulties,
which is like during COVID.

00:57:44.410 --> 00:57:46.450 align:middle line:84%
During COVID, we suddenly
needed a shitload

00:57:46.450 --> 00:57:49.130 align:middle line:90%
of masks and respirators.

00:57:49.130 --> 00:57:50.630 align:middle line:90%
So we contracted out.

00:57:50.630 --> 00:57:51.390 align:middle line:90%
We got a lot.

00:57:51.390 --> 00:57:53.610 align:middle line:90%
We got a ton of fraud.

00:57:53.610 --> 00:57:55.910 align:middle line:84%
A ton of companies, which
weren't really capable,

00:57:55.910 --> 00:57:58.170 align:middle line:84%
got big contracts
and bombed out.

00:57:58.170 --> 00:58:00.890 align:middle line:84%
We also got a lot of
masks and respirators.

00:58:00.890 --> 00:58:03.430 align:middle line:84%
That's why a lot of
people were in favor of,

00:58:03.430 --> 00:58:05.930 align:middle line:84%
instead of contracting that
out, actually invoking something

00:58:05.930 --> 00:58:08.930 align:middle line:84%
called the Defense
Production Act, which

00:58:08.930 --> 00:58:11.130 align:middle line:84%
grants the president
authority to literally tell

00:58:11.130 --> 00:58:12.730 align:middle line:90%
firms what to do.

00:58:12.730 --> 00:58:14.490 align:middle line:90%
That's scary.

00:58:14.490 --> 00:58:19.190 align:middle line:84%
But the idea is, if you do that,
then you get the firms to do it.

00:58:19.190 --> 00:58:22.610 align:middle line:84%
If you contract out, you might
get firms that don't exist.

00:58:22.610 --> 00:58:25.747 align:middle line:84%
Or when they're trying to cover
Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico,

00:58:25.747 --> 00:58:27.830 align:middle line:84%
they hired some firm which
turned out to be, like,

00:58:27.830 --> 00:58:30.030 align:middle line:84%
two guys in Montana who
happened to be buddies

00:58:30.030 --> 00:58:33.510 align:middle line:84%
of the president at the time,
who ended up not doing anything

00:58:33.510 --> 00:58:34.450 align:middle line:90%
for Hurricane Maria.

00:58:34.450 --> 00:58:36.630 align:middle line:84%
So there's an interesting
trade-off here

00:58:36.630 --> 00:58:38.160 align:middle line:84%
that is worth
thinking more about.

00:58:38.160 --> 00:58:39.910 align:middle line:84%
I wish I had more time
on that, but that's

00:58:39.910 --> 00:58:43.270 align:middle line:90%
all I can say about that.

00:58:43.270 --> 00:58:44.250 align:middle line:90%
So that's chapter 7.

00:58:44.250 --> 00:58:46.590 align:middle line:90%
Any other questions about that?

00:58:46.590 --> 00:58:49.350 align:middle line:90%
OK, let's go on to chapter 8.

00:58:49.350 --> 00:58:52.590 align:middle line:84%
And let's start thinking
about this second problem--

00:58:52.590 --> 00:58:57.190 align:middle line:84%
measurement and the issue
of cost-benefit analysis.

00:58:57.190 --> 00:58:59.130 align:middle line:84%
And we're going to do
this through an example.

00:58:59.130 --> 00:59:00.070 align:middle line:84%
We're going have an
example that's going

00:59:00.070 --> 00:59:01.010 align:middle line:90%
to run through this chapter.

00:59:01.010 --> 00:59:01.650 align:middle line:90%
We'll start it today.

00:59:01.650 --> 00:59:02.890 align:middle line:90%
We'll finish it next time.

00:59:02.890 --> 00:59:05.630 align:middle line:84%
[? An ?] example is going
to run through this chapter

00:59:05.630 --> 00:59:09.630 align:middle line:84%
of a government's decision
to build a highway.

00:59:09.630 --> 00:59:13.790 align:middle line:84%
And we're going to assume
that building this highway,

00:59:13.790 --> 00:59:18.470 align:middle line:84%
if you look at table 8-1, will
require the following inputs--

00:59:18.470 --> 00:59:23.350 align:middle line:84%
a million bags of asphalt,
million hours of labor,

00:59:23.350 --> 00:59:27.020 align:middle line:84%
and $10 million a
year of maintenance.

00:59:27.020 --> 00:59:30.240 align:middle line:84%
But by building this-- let's
say it's expanding a highway.

00:59:30.240 --> 00:59:35.580 align:middle line:84%
Through this project, we'll
save 500,000 hours per year

00:59:35.580 --> 00:59:38.180 align:middle line:84%
in driving time because
we have better highway.

00:59:38.180 --> 00:59:41.940 align:middle line:84%
And it will save five lives a
year because it'll be safer.

00:59:41.940 --> 00:59:45.420 align:middle line:90%
So we have here the costs.

00:59:45.420 --> 00:59:47.785 align:middle line:90%
We have the benefits.

00:59:47.785 --> 00:59:50.160 align:middle line:84%
We know we want to sum those
benefits equal to the costs.

00:59:50.160 --> 00:59:51.040 align:middle line:90%
But we just have words.

00:59:51.040 --> 00:59:51.960 align:middle line:90%
We don't have numbers.

00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:52.840 align:middle line:90%
This is MIT.

00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:54.420 align:middle line:90%
We need numbers.

00:59:54.420 --> 00:59:56.980 align:middle line:84%
So how do we translate
these words into numbers?

00:59:56.980 --> 01:00:01.420 align:middle line:84%
And that is the field of
cost-benefit analysis.

01:00:01.420 --> 01:00:06.420 align:middle line:84%
Let's start with the easier side
of this, which is the cost side.

01:00:06.420 --> 01:00:10.260 align:middle line:84%
And let's think about how we
measure the costs of things

01:00:10.260 --> 01:00:12.740 align:middle line:90%
like asphalt and labor.

01:00:12.740 --> 01:00:16.140 align:middle line:84%
And here, we're going to rag
on our friends the accountants.

01:00:16.140 --> 01:00:19.500 align:middle line:84%
The way accountants
would do this

01:00:19.500 --> 01:00:21.620 align:middle line:84%
is they would say,
well, whatever

01:00:21.620 --> 01:00:25.170 align:middle line:84%
you pay for the labor of
the asphalt is its cost.

01:00:25.170 --> 01:00:26.970 align:middle line:84%
And economists would
say that's not true,

01:00:26.970 --> 01:00:30.590 align:middle line:84%
because what matters
is not the cash costs.

01:00:30.590 --> 01:00:33.530 align:middle line:90%
It's the opportunity costs.

01:00:33.530 --> 01:00:37.810 align:middle line:84%
It's the best alternative use
of those resources in society.

01:00:37.810 --> 01:00:41.410 align:middle line:90%
And those are not always equal.

01:00:41.410 --> 01:00:43.810 align:middle line:84%
In a perfectly
competitive market,

01:00:43.810 --> 01:00:46.090 align:middle line:90%
they are by definition equal.

01:00:46.090 --> 01:00:49.615 align:middle line:84%
In a perfectly competitive
market, the price of a good

01:00:49.615 --> 01:00:50.990 align:middle line:84%
is equal to its
opportunity cost.

01:00:50.990 --> 01:00:53.282 align:middle line:84%
Think about our perfectly
competitive market and demand

01:00:53.282 --> 01:00:54.690 align:middle line:90%
and supply equilibrating.

01:00:54.690 --> 01:00:57.770 align:middle line:84%
They equilibrate the point
where the value of the next bag

01:00:57.770 --> 01:01:00.130 align:middle line:84%
of asphalt equals
the cost of producing

01:01:00.130 --> 01:01:04.390 align:middle line:84%
the next bag of asphalt.
So the opportunity cost,

01:01:04.390 --> 01:01:06.370 align:middle line:84%
which is producing one
less bag of asphalt,

01:01:06.370 --> 01:01:09.370 align:middle line:84%
is equal to the price,
so cash accounting works.

01:01:09.370 --> 01:01:12.570 align:middle line:84%
But now imagine the
market is imperfect.

01:01:12.570 --> 01:01:16.010 align:middle line:84%
And let's actually think about
the labor market to start.

01:01:16.010 --> 01:01:20.410 align:middle line:84%
Imagine that you
have a world where

01:01:20.410 --> 01:01:24.310 align:middle line:84%
construction workers, as they
do in many cities in America,

01:01:24.310 --> 01:01:28.270 align:middle line:84%
have a higher minimum
wage for public projects

01:01:28.270 --> 01:01:31.630 align:middle line:90%
than the statewide minimum wage.

01:01:31.630 --> 01:01:36.870 align:middle line:84%
So let's imagine the statewide
market wage is $10 an hour,

01:01:36.870 --> 01:01:39.590 align:middle line:84%
that the state on average
people earn $10 an hour.

01:01:39.590 --> 01:01:42.350 align:middle line:84%
But there's a minimum wage for
public construction projects

01:01:42.350 --> 01:01:43.570 align:middle line:90%
of $20 an hour.

01:01:43.570 --> 01:01:46.550 align:middle line:90%


01:01:46.550 --> 01:01:52.270 align:middle line:84%
So let's imagine that the
government is going to hire

01:01:52.270 --> 01:01:58.630 align:middle line:90%
these 500,000 workers.

01:01:58.630 --> 01:02:02.910 align:middle line:84%
And it's going to end
up paying $20 million,

01:02:02.910 --> 01:02:09.070 align:middle line:84%
because it's $20 an hour for
this million hours of labor.

01:02:09.070 --> 01:02:14.430 align:middle line:84%
What is the opportunity
cost of that labor?

01:02:14.430 --> 01:02:17.670 align:middle line:84%
Well, it's the next
best use of that labor.

01:02:17.670 --> 01:02:20.740 align:middle line:84%
And the next best use
is another project where

01:02:20.740 --> 01:02:22.860 align:middle line:90%
they'd be paid $10 an hour.

01:02:22.860 --> 01:02:24.560 align:middle line:84%
And assuming labor
markets are perfect,

01:02:24.560 --> 01:02:26.442 align:middle line:90%
that's their marginal product.

01:02:26.442 --> 01:02:27.900 align:middle line:84%
Their marginal
product is what they

01:02:27.900 --> 01:02:31.940 align:middle line:84%
get paid in an alternative
job, which is $10 an hour.

01:02:31.940 --> 01:02:37.060 align:middle line:84%
So while the cash cost of
these workers is $20 million,

01:02:37.060 --> 01:02:39.700 align:middle line:84%
the opportunity cost
is only $10 million.

01:02:39.700 --> 01:02:41.820 align:middle line:84%
You're only
extracting $10 million

01:02:41.820 --> 01:02:44.003 align:middle line:84%
worth of marginal
product out of society,

01:02:44.003 --> 01:02:45.920 align:middle line:84%
because that's what
they'd earn in other jobs,

01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:48.620 align:middle line:84%
even though you're
paying them $20 million.

01:02:48.620 --> 01:02:49.800 align:middle line:90%
Well, then what's the magic?

01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:50.860 align:middle line:84%
Where's the other
$10 million go?

01:02:50.860 --> 01:02:52.277 align:middle line:84%
I mean, the
accountants are right,

01:02:52.277 --> 01:02:53.820 align:middle line:90%
we're spending $20 million.

01:02:53.820 --> 01:02:56.260 align:middle line:84%
What happens to the
other $10 million?

01:02:56.260 --> 01:02:59.940 align:middle line:84%
If the cash cost is $20 million,
but the opportunity cost

01:02:59.940 --> 01:03:03.040 align:middle line:84%
in terms of the marginal product
we're using is $10 million,

01:03:03.040 --> 01:03:04.320 align:middle line:90%
what's the other $10 million?

01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:08.040 align:middle line:90%


01:03:08.040 --> 01:03:08.540 align:middle line:90%
Yeah,

01:03:08.540 --> 01:03:10.035 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] workers.

01:03:10.035 --> 01:03:11.660 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Yeah,
the other $10 million

01:03:11.660 --> 01:03:14.100 align:middle line:90%
is what we call economic rents.

01:03:14.100 --> 01:03:16.980 align:middle line:84%
Those workers, by
getting these jobs,

01:03:16.980 --> 01:03:20.690 align:middle line:84%
have gotten a transfer
from the government.

01:03:20.690 --> 01:03:24.010 align:middle line:84%
The government has
transferred $10 an hour

01:03:24.010 --> 01:03:26.783 align:middle line:84%
to workers by giving
them these better jobs.

01:03:26.783 --> 01:03:28.950 align:middle line:84%
It's not better in terms
of higher marginal product,

01:03:28.950 --> 01:03:31.250 align:middle line:90%
better in terms of higher pay.

01:03:31.250 --> 01:03:35.130 align:middle line:90%
That has no efficiency cost.

01:03:35.130 --> 01:03:37.410 align:middle line:90%
If I give you $1--

01:03:37.410 --> 01:03:38.970 align:middle line:84%
I just give you
the dollar, there's

01:03:38.970 --> 01:03:41.610 align:middle line:90%
no efficiency cost to that.

01:03:41.610 --> 01:03:46.050 align:middle line:84%
So there's the opportunity cost,
the efficiency cost to society,

01:03:46.050 --> 01:03:48.930 align:middle line:84%
is the lost marginal product
by building this road.

01:03:48.930 --> 01:03:50.853 align:middle line:84%
It's what the workers
could have done instead.

01:03:50.853 --> 01:03:52.270 align:middle line:84%
If they weren't
building the road,

01:03:52.270 --> 01:03:53.050 align:middle line:84%
they would have
been doing something

01:03:53.050 --> 01:03:55.210 align:middle line:84%
with the marginal
product of $10 an hour.

01:03:55.210 --> 01:03:56.430 align:middle line:90%
And how do we know that?

01:03:56.430 --> 01:03:58.570 align:middle line:84%
Because their wage is
$10 an hour, and wage

01:03:58.570 --> 01:04:01.650 align:middle line:84%
equals marginal product in
a labor market equilibrium.

01:04:01.650 --> 01:04:03.530 align:middle line:90%
Once again, let me say it again.

01:04:03.530 --> 01:04:06.210 align:middle line:84%
In a labor market equilibrium,
in a perfectly functioning labor

01:04:06.210 --> 01:04:09.070 align:middle line:84%
market, wage equals
marginal product.

01:04:09.070 --> 01:04:11.930 align:middle line:90%
We solved for that in 14.01.

01:04:11.930 --> 01:04:15.210 align:middle line:84%
Therefore the
value of their time

01:04:15.210 --> 01:04:17.750 align:middle line:84%
is the $10 marginal
product we're losing

01:04:17.750 --> 01:04:19.163 align:middle line:90%
by having them build this road.

01:04:19.163 --> 01:04:20.330 align:middle line:90%
That's the opportunity cost.

01:04:20.330 --> 01:04:22.670 align:middle line:84%
The other $10 million is
literally just a transfer

01:04:22.670 --> 01:04:24.628 align:middle line:84%
from the government to
the lucky set of workers

01:04:24.628 --> 01:04:26.710 align:middle line:90%
who happen to get these jobs.

01:04:26.710 --> 01:04:28.690 align:middle line:90%
It's a hard concept.

01:04:28.690 --> 01:04:30.190 align:middle line:90%
Questions about that?

01:04:30.190 --> 01:04:30.790 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:04:30.790 --> 01:04:32.630 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: How is that
margin [INAUDIBLE]?

01:04:32.630 --> 01:04:33.810 align:middle line:90%
JON GRUBER: How's what?

01:04:33.810 --> 01:04:37.310 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: The margin between $20
and $10 set by the government

01:04:37.310 --> 01:04:39.132 align:middle line:90%
outside of, maybe, [INAUDIBLE]?

01:04:39.132 --> 01:04:41.590 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: You mean where does
that arise from in reality?

01:04:41.590 --> 01:04:43.070 align:middle line:90%
Just political economy.

01:04:43.070 --> 01:04:45.630 align:middle line:84%
They just decide they're going
to-- the construction workers

01:04:45.630 --> 01:04:47.390 align:middle line:90%
lobby, the union lobbies.

01:04:47.390 --> 01:04:48.890 align:middle line:84%
And they get a
higher wage for that.

01:04:48.890 --> 01:04:51.653 align:middle line:90%


01:04:51.653 --> 01:04:53.070 align:middle line:84%
That leads us to
this point, which

01:04:53.070 --> 01:04:55.170 align:middle line:90%
is why do we do what we do?

01:04:55.170 --> 01:04:58.030 align:middle line:90%


01:04:58.030 --> 01:05:03.230 align:middle line:84%
Now, can anyone tell me why
this same logic might apply,

01:05:03.230 --> 01:05:06.350 align:middle line:84%
and why the opportunity
cost, or the efficiency cost

01:05:06.350 --> 01:05:10.630 align:middle line:84%
of asphalt, under what
condition might the opportunity

01:05:10.630 --> 01:05:14.050 align:middle line:84%
cost of asphalt be
below its cash cost?

01:05:14.050 --> 01:05:19.100 align:middle line:90%


01:05:19.100 --> 01:05:21.140 align:middle line:84%
Remember, I said
a few minutes ago,

01:05:21.140 --> 01:05:23.500 align:middle line:84%
under what condition
they were equal.

01:05:23.500 --> 01:05:26.260 align:middle line:84%
So that tells you under what
condition they're not equal.

01:05:26.260 --> 01:05:26.780 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:05:26.780 --> 01:05:27.860 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Imperfect competition.

01:05:27.860 --> 01:05:29.277 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Imperfect
competition.

01:05:29.277 --> 01:05:32.200 align:middle line:84%
Under perfect competition,
opportunity costs,

01:05:32.200 --> 01:05:33.200 align:middle line:90%
cash costs are the same.

01:05:33.200 --> 01:05:35.780 align:middle line:84%
But imagine the asphalt is
produced by a monopoly asphalt

01:05:35.780 --> 01:05:37.300 align:middle line:90%
producer.

01:05:37.300 --> 01:05:41.180 align:middle line:84%
In that case, the monopolist,
the marginal cost,

01:05:41.180 --> 01:05:43.400 align:middle line:84%
the monopolist is below
the price they're paying.

01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:45.608 align:middle line:84%
Remember, for monopolists,
price above marginal cost,

01:05:45.608 --> 01:05:47.300 align:middle line:90%
we call it the markup.

01:05:47.300 --> 01:05:49.603 align:middle line:84%
So the price you
pay the monopolist,

01:05:49.603 --> 01:05:51.520 align:middle line:84%
minus the marginal cost
of the bag of asphalt,

01:05:51.520 --> 01:05:53.620 align:middle line:90%
is a transfer to the monopolist.

01:05:53.620 --> 01:05:58.860 align:middle line:84%
It's just like the better union
job is a transfer to the worker.

01:05:58.860 --> 01:06:01.380 align:middle line:84%
The difference between
the price of asphalt

01:06:01.380 --> 01:06:05.860 align:middle line:84%
and the marginal cost of asphalt
is a transfer to the monopolist.

01:06:05.860 --> 01:06:08.180 align:middle line:84%
So you would also have an
efficiency cost different

01:06:08.180 --> 01:06:09.760 align:middle line:90%
from the cash cost in that case.

01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:12.340 align:middle line:90%


01:06:12.340 --> 01:06:12.920 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:13.220 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Sorry.

01:06:13.220 --> 01:06:14.800 align:middle line:84%
Can you explain
that one more time,

01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:16.732 align:middle line:90%
the [INAUDIBLE] monopolists?

01:06:16.732 --> 01:06:19.080 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Well,
what is the efficiency

01:06:19.080 --> 01:06:21.118 align:middle line:90%
cost of a bag of asphalt?

01:06:21.118 --> 01:06:22.160 align:middle line:90%
Here's the key intuition.

01:06:22.160 --> 01:06:23.415 align:middle line:90%
I should say it this way.

01:06:23.415 --> 01:06:25.040 align:middle line:84%
The efficiency cost
is that I'm pulling

01:06:25.040 --> 01:06:29.160 align:middle line:84%
that bag of asphalt out of its
next best use in the economy.

01:06:29.160 --> 01:06:31.100 align:middle line:84%
What is the value of
its next best use?

01:06:31.100 --> 01:06:35.600 align:middle line:84%
Well, it's the marginal cost of
producing a bag of asphalt. What

01:06:35.600 --> 01:06:36.340 align:middle line:90%
do we pay for it?

01:06:36.340 --> 01:06:38.435 align:middle line:90%
We pay the price.

01:06:38.435 --> 01:06:40.560 align:middle line:84%
In a perfectly competitive
market, those are equal.

01:06:40.560 --> 01:06:42.020 align:middle line:84%
In a perfectly competitive
market, they're not.

01:06:42.020 --> 01:06:44.180 align:middle line:84%
And the gap is a transfer
given to the monopolist.

01:06:44.180 --> 01:06:47.298 align:middle line:90%


01:06:47.298 --> 01:06:48.340 align:middle line:90%
Good clarifying question.

01:06:48.340 --> 01:06:49.140 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:06:49.140 --> 01:06:50.680 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Is the
next best benefit

01:06:50.680 --> 01:06:52.960 align:middle line:84%
to society of that
bag of asphalt

01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:54.920 align:middle line:84%
equal the marginal cost
even in the case where

01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:57.120 align:middle line:84%
it's a monopolist who--
even if they're not

01:06:57.120 --> 01:07:01.080 align:middle line:84%
selling to the government,
they're still charging more?

01:07:01.080 --> 01:07:02.580 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: That's
a great question,

01:07:02.580 --> 01:07:04.705 align:middle line:84%
which is, what if the whole
industry's monopolized?

01:07:04.705 --> 01:07:08.520 align:middle line:84%
Then things get more
difficult. You're right.

01:07:08.520 --> 01:07:11.160 align:middle line:84%
So I'm assuming there is an
efficient market in which it

01:07:11.160 --> 01:07:12.340 align:middle line:90%
could otherwise be used.

01:07:12.340 --> 01:07:14.870 align:middle line:90%


01:07:14.870 --> 01:07:15.390 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:07:15.390 --> 01:07:19.230 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I have a question
about the imperfect competition.

01:07:19.230 --> 01:07:21.850 align:middle line:84%
What if, instead of there
only being one manufacturer,

01:07:21.850 --> 01:07:24.390 align:middle line:84%
there's only one purchaser,
like a monopsony?

01:07:24.390 --> 01:07:25.990 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Well,
I mean, then you

01:07:25.990 --> 01:07:27.518 align:middle line:84%
get into this
question asked here,

01:07:27.518 --> 01:07:29.810 align:middle line:84%
which is there's only one
purchaser for these projects.

01:07:29.810 --> 01:07:32.102 align:middle line:84%
Why do they pay him $20 an
hour instead of $10 an hour?

01:07:32.102 --> 01:07:34.390 align:middle line:84%
You'd think in that
case they'd pay below.

01:07:34.390 --> 01:07:37.170 align:middle line:90%
But they can't necessarily.

01:07:37.170 --> 01:07:39.910 align:middle line:90%
They might not necessarily.

01:07:39.910 --> 01:07:41.950 align:middle line:84%
This actually goes
back to last lecture,

01:07:41.950 --> 01:07:44.720 align:middle line:84%
these examples talk
about contracting out.

01:07:44.720 --> 01:07:46.470 align:middle line:84%
Part of the reason the
public sector often

01:07:46.470 --> 01:07:48.190 align:middle line:84%
pays too much for
goods is because they

01:07:48.190 --> 01:07:49.925 align:middle line:90%
have non-compete contracts.

01:07:49.925 --> 01:07:52.050 align:middle line:84%
Now, you think of a
non-compete contract for a good

01:07:52.050 --> 01:07:53.650 align:middle line:84%
if I'm a monopsony
buyer of a missile.

01:07:53.650 --> 01:07:55.070 align:middle line:90%
No one else is buying missiles.

01:07:55.070 --> 01:07:56.970 align:middle line:84%
I should be able
to pay much less.

01:07:56.970 --> 01:07:58.550 align:middle line:84%
But in fact, by
non-compete, I often

01:07:58.550 --> 01:08:01.202 align:middle line:84%
end up paying more
because I don't really

01:08:01.202 --> 01:08:02.410 align:middle line:90%
know what the right price is.

01:08:02.410 --> 01:08:04.530 align:middle line:84%
So when they compete, they
reveal the right price to me.

01:08:04.530 --> 01:08:06.070 align:middle line:84%
When there's a
non-compete, I just

01:08:06.070 --> 01:08:07.487 align:middle line:84%
have to go with
what they tell me.

01:08:07.487 --> 01:08:10.190 align:middle line:84%
And I've got no idea
what the right answer is.

01:08:10.190 --> 01:08:12.740 align:middle line:90%
All right, other questions?

01:08:12.740 --> 01:08:14.195 align:middle line:90%
So that's one-- yeah.

01:08:14.195 --> 01:08:15.820 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Is this
non-competes in terms

01:08:15.820 --> 01:08:18.637 align:middle line:84%
of, I don't know, McKinsey-- or
not McKinsey, sorry, Lockheed?

01:08:18.637 --> 01:08:19.720 align:middle line:90%
JON GRUBER: Yeah, exactly.

01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:22.380 align:middle line:84%
So basically, I'm
buying a missile.

01:08:22.380 --> 01:08:23.979 align:middle line:84%
What I can do is
say, look, anybody

01:08:23.979 --> 01:08:27.420 align:middle line:84%
who produces a missile bid on
this missile with this specs.

01:08:27.420 --> 01:08:29.460 align:middle line:84%
And unlike with
prisons, the specs

01:08:29.460 --> 01:08:31.220 align:middle line:90%
can be really pretty precise.

01:08:31.220 --> 01:08:34.380 align:middle line:90%
Build a missile to these specs.

01:08:34.380 --> 01:08:36.660 align:middle line:84%
I'll get the bids, and
I'll pick the lowest one.

01:08:36.660 --> 01:08:38.700 align:middle line:84%
That's the way you'd
think we'd do it.

01:08:38.700 --> 01:08:42.040 align:middle line:84%
That is less than half of all
contracts the government does.

01:08:42.040 --> 01:08:44.520 align:middle line:84%
And more than half all contracts
just say, hey, I like you.

01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:48.082 align:middle line:84%
You produce the missile, which
has the problem that there's

01:08:48.082 --> 01:08:49.540 align:middle line:84%
no competitive
pressure and there's

01:08:49.540 --> 01:08:51.060 align:middle line:90%
no information revelation.

01:08:51.060 --> 01:08:53.580 align:middle line:84%
Competition, remember, is
beautiful in that it solves

01:08:53.580 --> 01:08:55.757 align:middle line:84%
the information
revelation problem,

01:08:55.757 --> 01:08:57.840 align:middle line:84%
because competition reveals
what marginal cost is.

01:08:57.840 --> 01:08:59.100 align:middle line:84%
If you don't have
competition, how

01:08:59.100 --> 01:09:00.975 align:middle line:84%
do you reveal what the
true marginal cost is?

01:09:00.975 --> 01:09:01.500 align:middle line:90%
You don't.

01:09:01.500 --> 01:09:03.279 align:middle line:84%
And that's the problem with
the non-compete contracts.

01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:04.140 align:middle line:90%
Why?

01:09:04.140 --> 01:09:04.859 align:middle line:90%
Chapter 9.

01:09:04.859 --> 01:09:11.399 align:middle line:90%


01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:13.880 align:middle line:90%
That's the first challenge.

01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:17.080 align:middle line:84%
So costs, you would think,
would be pretty straightforward.

01:09:17.080 --> 01:09:20.560 align:middle line:84%
The first challenge
is imperfect markets.

01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:25.279 align:middle line:84%
The second challenge
is discounting,

01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:30.120 align:middle line:84%
the fact that not all costs
come at the same time.

01:09:30.120 --> 01:09:32.800 align:middle line:84%
Now, we haven't
covered chapter 4 yet.

01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:34.415 align:middle line:84%
But I'm going to
assume you remember

01:09:34.415 --> 01:09:36.040 align:middle line:84%
the concept of present
discounted value

01:09:36.040 --> 01:09:40.680 align:middle line:84%
from 14.01, which is that
dollars in the future

01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:43.062 align:middle line:84%
are less valuable
than dollars today.

01:09:43.062 --> 01:09:45.020 align:middle line:84%
It's a fundamental concept
of discounted value.

01:09:45.020 --> 01:09:47.340 align:middle line:84%
So if you want to express
the cost of something,

01:09:47.340 --> 01:09:50.920 align:middle line:84%
you have to express it in
today's dollars, discounting

01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:52.779 align:middle line:84%
future dollars because
they're worth less.

01:09:52.779 --> 01:09:52.840 align:middle line:90%
Why?

01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:54.180 align:middle line:84%
They're worth less,
because you had them today,

01:09:54.180 --> 01:09:56.800 align:middle line:84%
you could invest them and
they'd be more tomorrow.

01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:59.700 align:middle line:84%
Once again, we'll cover
this in chapter 4 to review.

01:09:59.700 --> 01:10:01.920 align:middle line:90%
But that was in 14.01.

01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:07.200 align:middle line:84%
So basically, the problem
is that some of these costs

01:10:07.200 --> 01:10:10.570 align:middle line:84%
come in the future, like
the maintenance costs.

01:10:10.570 --> 01:10:12.590 align:middle line:90%
That's $10 per year.

01:10:12.590 --> 01:10:14.490 align:middle line:84%
So we can't-- $10
million a year.

01:10:14.490 --> 01:10:18.290 align:middle line:84%
We can't just add that because
it's happening in the future,

01:10:18.290 --> 01:10:19.410 align:middle line:90%
so it's worth less.

01:10:19.410 --> 01:10:22.810 align:middle line:84%
We have to discount it
and get a PDV of costs.

01:10:22.810 --> 01:10:25.190 align:middle line:84%
The asphalt and the
laborers, we hire today.

01:10:25.190 --> 01:10:26.950 align:middle line:90%
So there's no PDV issues.

01:10:26.950 --> 01:10:29.610 align:middle line:84%
The maintenance,
we do over time.

01:10:29.610 --> 01:10:31.870 align:middle line:90%
And so we have to discount it.

01:10:31.870 --> 01:10:33.597 align:middle line:84%
So then we know how
to do discounts.

01:10:33.597 --> 01:10:34.930 align:middle line:90%
We know how to PDV calculations.

01:10:34.930 --> 01:10:36.230 align:middle line:90%
We've done those.

01:10:36.230 --> 01:10:40.748 align:middle line:84%
But the question is, what's
the right discount rate to use?

01:10:40.748 --> 01:10:43.290 align:middle line:84%
Because now it's a government
having to pick a discount rate,

01:10:43.290 --> 01:10:46.110 align:middle line:84%
not a private market
[INAUDIBLE] discount rate.

01:10:46.110 --> 01:10:50.550 align:middle line:84%
Now, you might say what would
be a natural starting point

01:10:50.550 --> 01:10:54.510 align:middle line:84%
for the right discount rate to
use for a government deciding

01:10:54.510 --> 01:10:55.890 align:middle line:90%
on whether to do a project.

01:10:55.890 --> 01:10:58.510 align:middle line:90%


01:10:58.510 --> 01:10:59.050 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:10:59.050 --> 01:11:02.070 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: The inflation rate?

01:11:02.070 --> 01:11:04.923 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Well, no, because
the opportunity cost of money

01:11:04.923 --> 01:11:06.090 align:middle line:90%
is not just about inflation.

01:11:06.090 --> 01:11:07.840 align:middle line:84%
It's about the fact that money
could be worth more tomorrow.

01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:09.760 align:middle line:84%
Even with zero inflation,
it's still a discount rate.

01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:10.300 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:11:10.300 --> 01:11:11.300 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Cost of borrowing.

01:11:11.300 --> 01:11:13.260 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: The private
sector discount rate--

01:11:13.260 --> 01:11:15.260 align:middle line:84%
a natural point to say,
look, the private sector

01:11:15.260 --> 01:11:16.320 align:middle line:90%
is a cost of capital.

01:11:16.320 --> 01:11:17.120 align:middle line:90%
It's what it costs.

01:11:17.120 --> 01:11:17.940 align:middle line:90%
Now, they don't just borrow.

01:11:17.940 --> 01:11:19.280 align:middle line:90%
They issue debt and equity.

01:11:19.280 --> 01:11:21.540 align:middle line:84%
We have an aggregate
cost of capital.

01:11:21.540 --> 01:11:23.380 align:middle line:90%
It's about 7%.

01:11:23.380 --> 01:11:25.840 align:middle line:90%
It's an historical estimate.

01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:27.860 align:middle line:84%
So for a typical firm
needing to raise capital

01:11:27.860 --> 01:11:30.340 align:middle line:84%
through equity or debt or
other means, in aggregate,

01:11:30.340 --> 01:11:32.540 align:middle line:90%
it's about a 7% cost of capital.

01:11:32.540 --> 01:11:36.900 align:middle line:84%
You have to pay about a 7% rate
of return to get your money.

01:11:36.900 --> 01:11:39.620 align:middle line:84%
So a natural starting
point is to say, look--

01:11:39.620 --> 01:11:41.580 align:middle line:84%
and this is why the
starting point makes sense.

01:11:41.580 --> 01:11:45.340 align:middle line:84%
If I take that money
to build this highway,

01:11:45.340 --> 01:11:47.280 align:middle line:84%
what's the alternative
use of the money?

01:11:47.280 --> 01:11:49.535 align:middle line:84%
The private sector
could have had it.

01:11:49.535 --> 01:11:51.160 align:middle line:84%
So if I'm spending
money in the future,

01:11:51.160 --> 01:11:54.700 align:middle line:84%
I should use the private
sector discount rate.

01:11:54.700 --> 01:11:59.740 align:middle line:84%
But there's one big difference,
which is subtle but important.

01:11:59.740 --> 01:12:04.920 align:middle line:84%
7% is the pre-tax historical
rate of return on capital.

01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:08.920 align:middle line:84%
But if you save in the
bank, you get taxed on that.

01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:13.160 align:middle line:84%
Post-tax, it's more like
5% or whatever it is.

01:12:13.160 --> 01:12:17.120 align:middle line:84%
So the rate of return on capital
used by the private sector

01:12:17.120 --> 01:12:19.880 align:middle line:90%
is the post-tax rate of return.

01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:23.240 align:middle line:84%
Should that be the rate
used by the government?

01:12:23.240 --> 01:12:24.152 align:middle line:90%
Why or why not?

01:12:24.152 --> 01:12:26.360 align:middle line:84%
Should the government follow
the private sector using

01:12:26.360 --> 01:12:28.180 align:middle line:90%
the post-tax rate of return?

01:12:28.180 --> 01:12:28.680 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:31.020 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: No, because they're
not taxing themselves.

01:12:31.020 --> 01:12:32.720 align:middle line:90%
JON GRUBER: They keep the money.

01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:34.160 align:middle line:84%
They get the tax
revenue, so they

01:12:34.160 --> 01:12:38.080 align:middle line:84%
should use-- the right answer
is that the federal government

01:12:38.080 --> 01:12:40.600 align:middle line:84%
should discount its
future costs and future

01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:46.305 align:middle line:84%
benefits by the pre-tax
private cost of capital.

01:12:46.305 --> 01:12:48.680 align:middle line:84%
Because the alternative is,
private sector has the money,

01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:52.160 align:middle line:84%
and that's their discount
rate that they use.

01:12:52.160 --> 01:12:55.560 align:middle line:84%
Now, the government uses a
variety of different discount

01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:59.260 align:middle line:84%
rates, but they're
centered around 7%.

01:12:59.260 --> 01:13:05.910 align:middle line:84%
So let's use 7% Let's
now go to table 8.2

01:13:05.910 --> 01:13:10.950 align:middle line:90%
and let's look at the costs.

01:13:10.950 --> 01:13:13.610 align:middle line:84%
We have a million
bags of asphalt.

01:13:13.610 --> 01:13:15.650 align:middle line:84%
Let's assume that the
price of asphalt is $100.

01:13:15.650 --> 01:13:17.870 align:middle line:84%
Let's assume that's a
perfectly competitive market.

01:13:17.870 --> 01:13:19.850 align:middle line:84%
So the opportunity
cost is the cash cost.

01:13:19.850 --> 01:13:20.770 align:middle line:90%
It's $100 a bag.

01:13:20.770 --> 01:13:22.830 align:middle line:90%
That's $100 million.

01:13:22.830 --> 01:13:24.530 align:middle line:84%
We have a million
of hours of labor.

01:13:24.530 --> 01:13:26.988 align:middle line:84%
But we're going to use the
opportunity cost of labor, which

01:13:26.988 --> 01:13:29.390 align:middle line:90%
is the market wage of $10.

01:13:29.390 --> 01:13:31.950 align:middle line:90%
So that's $10 million.

01:13:31.950 --> 01:13:35.190 align:middle line:84%
We have maintenance of $10
million a year forever,

01:13:35.190 --> 01:13:37.450 align:middle line:90%
but there's a 7% discount rate.

01:13:37.450 --> 01:13:39.990 align:middle line:84%
You all remember the
formula that, if you

01:13:39.990 --> 01:13:42.590 align:middle line:84%
have an infinite sum,
the value of something

01:13:42.590 --> 01:13:46.990 align:middle line:84%
is the amount you're paying
out, F, over the interest rate.

01:13:46.990 --> 01:13:55.870 align:middle line:84%
So $10 million over
0.07 is $143 million.

01:13:55.870 --> 01:13:57.250 align:middle line:90%
That is the three costs.

01:13:57.250 --> 01:14:01.900 align:middle line:84%
So the total cost of this
effort in today's dollars

01:14:01.900 --> 01:14:04.500 align:middle line:90%
is $253 million.

01:14:04.500 --> 01:14:05.640 align:middle line:90%
Questions about that?

01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:08.740 align:middle line:90%


01:14:08.740 --> 01:14:10.820 align:middle line:84%
Now we're going to
go to the harder

01:14:10.820 --> 01:14:13.757 align:middle line:90%
part, which is the benefits.

01:14:13.757 --> 01:14:15.340 align:middle line:84%
Let me just introduce
this, then we'll

01:14:15.340 --> 01:14:17.340 align:middle line:90%
stop and get into it next time.

01:14:17.340 --> 01:14:21.980 align:middle line:84%
The benefits are harder because
they value things like time

01:14:21.980 --> 01:14:23.420 align:middle line:90%
and lives.

01:14:23.420 --> 01:14:25.860 align:middle line:84%
These are things
without market prices.

01:14:25.860 --> 01:14:28.020 align:middle line:84%
We can talk about the
flaws in the market

01:14:28.020 --> 01:14:29.800 align:middle line:90%
prices for asphalt and labor.

01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:33.060 align:middle line:84%
But at least there
are market prices.

01:14:33.060 --> 01:14:36.240 align:middle line:84%
Time and lives do not
have market prices.

01:14:36.240 --> 01:14:39.900 align:middle line:84%
Now time, you might say, has a
market price, which is the wage.

01:14:39.900 --> 01:14:43.000 align:middle line:84%
And that would be a natural
starting point valuing time.

01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.500 align:middle line:84%
It would be to say,
look, we should value

01:14:45.500 --> 01:14:49.820 align:middle line:90%
the time you save by your wage.

01:14:49.820 --> 01:14:54.220 align:middle line:84%
And that would be what we
call a market-based solution.

01:14:54.220 --> 01:14:56.820 align:middle line:84%
A market-based solution
to valuing time

01:14:56.820 --> 01:15:00.320 align:middle line:90%
would be to use your wage.

01:15:00.320 --> 01:15:04.280 align:middle line:84%
Now suppose I said
to you, well, you

01:15:04.280 --> 01:15:07.200 align:middle line:84%
can't use a wage to
value time because people

01:15:07.200 --> 01:15:10.920 align:middle line:90%
don't work all the time.

01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:15.880 align:middle line:84%
And you responded to me, in
fact, the wage times 24 hours

01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.540 align:middle line:84%
is, in a perfectly
competitive labor market,

01:15:18.540 --> 01:15:21.980 align:middle line:84%
the proper way to value time,
even if as with most people

01:15:21.980 --> 01:15:25.120 align:middle line:84%
they only work about a quarter
of the time of their hours.

01:15:25.120 --> 01:15:27.000 align:middle line:90%
Why is that?

01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:28.560 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:31.120 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Because the not
working is the value of leisure.

01:15:31.120 --> 01:15:31.870 align:middle line:90%
JON GRUBER: Right.

01:15:31.870 --> 01:15:34.000 align:middle line:84%
In equilibrium,
people set the wage

01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:38.260 align:middle line:84%
equal to the marginal
value of leisure.

01:15:38.260 --> 01:15:39.580 align:middle line:90%
We solved that in 14.01.

01:15:39.580 --> 01:15:41.120 align:middle line:90%
And think about the intuition.

01:15:41.120 --> 01:15:44.280 align:middle line:84%
In a perfectly
competitive labor market,

01:15:44.280 --> 01:15:48.260 align:middle line:84%
if working is worth less
to you than not working,

01:15:48.260 --> 01:15:49.800 align:middle line:90%
what would you do?

01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:51.160 align:middle line:90%
Work less.

01:15:51.160 --> 01:15:53.260 align:middle line:84%
If work was worth more
to you than not working,

01:15:53.260 --> 01:15:54.160 align:middle line:90%
what would you do?

01:15:54.160 --> 01:15:55.960 align:middle line:90%
You'd work more.

01:15:55.960 --> 01:15:59.110 align:middle line:84%
So you will work until the
point where the wage equals

01:15:59.110 --> 01:16:01.510 align:middle line:90%
a marginal value of leisure.

01:16:01.510 --> 01:16:04.510 align:middle line:84%
So it doesn't matter if the time
you're saving by driving faster

01:16:04.510 --> 01:16:07.270 align:middle line:84%
comes from your kid's
soccer game or work.

01:16:07.270 --> 01:16:12.030 align:middle line:84%
Either way, you value
it at your wage.

01:16:12.030 --> 01:16:13.390 align:middle line:90%
The problem of-- questions?

01:16:13.390 --> 01:16:15.290 align:middle line:90%
People understand that?

01:16:15.290 --> 01:16:16.790 align:middle line:84%
The problem, of
course with that is,

01:16:16.790 --> 01:16:18.670 align:middle line:84%
we don't have a
perfect labor market.

01:16:18.670 --> 01:16:20.950 align:middle line:84%
And as a result, the
wage can actually

01:16:20.950 --> 01:16:23.510 align:middle line:84%
be very different than the
marginal value of leisure.

01:16:23.510 --> 01:16:29.310 align:middle line:84%
So what's an example of
why the wage could be less

01:16:29.310 --> 01:16:31.990 align:middle line:84%
than the marginal
value of leisure?

01:16:31.990 --> 01:16:33.365 align:middle line:84%
What would that
mean for the wage

01:16:33.365 --> 01:16:35.032 align:middle line:84%
to be less than
marginal value solution?

01:16:35.032 --> 01:16:35.950 align:middle line:90%
Why could that arise?

01:16:35.950 --> 01:16:37.598 align:middle line:84%
Let's get some other
folks involved.

01:16:37.598 --> 01:16:39.390 align:middle line:84%
What would it mean for
your wage to be less

01:16:39.390 --> 01:16:40.970 align:middle line:84%
than your marginal
value of leisure?

01:16:40.970 --> 01:16:44.670 align:middle line:90%
And why might that arise?

01:16:44.670 --> 01:16:46.450 align:middle line:90%
Take a stab, I don't bite.

01:16:46.450 --> 01:16:46.950 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:16:46.950 --> 01:16:49.258 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: You could
have passive income.

01:16:49.258 --> 01:16:50.750 align:middle line:90%
JON GRUBER: Yeah.

01:16:50.750 --> 01:16:53.010 align:middle line:84%
Well, a passive
income, it's marginal.

01:16:53.010 --> 01:16:55.390 align:middle line:84%
So passive income is
a fixed other thing.

01:16:55.390 --> 01:16:58.460 align:middle line:90%
But let's extend that.

01:16:58.460 --> 01:17:00.320 align:middle line:84%
Let's not think
of passive income.

01:17:00.320 --> 01:17:03.800 align:middle line:84%
What else comes with
jobs beside wages?

01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:04.740 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Benefits.

01:17:04.740 --> 01:17:06.060 align:middle line:90%
JON GRUBER: Benefits.

01:17:06.060 --> 01:17:08.940 align:middle line:84%
And basically, some
of those benefits

01:17:08.940 --> 01:17:11.740 align:middle line:84%
would be linked to
how hard you work.

01:17:11.740 --> 01:17:15.580 align:middle line:84%
In fact, the marginal value
of work is not the wage.

01:17:15.580 --> 01:17:17.900 align:middle line:90%
It's your total compensation.

01:17:17.900 --> 01:17:20.980 align:middle line:84%
So you really should
be setting compensation

01:17:20.980 --> 01:17:24.940 align:middle line:84%
equal to the marginal
value of leisure, not wage.

01:17:24.940 --> 01:17:28.580 align:middle line:84%
So you should be choosing
a higher marginal value

01:17:28.580 --> 01:17:31.660 align:middle line:90%
of leisure.

01:17:31.660 --> 01:17:33.220 align:middle line:84%
Actually, it's a
backward example.

01:17:33.220 --> 01:17:36.060 align:middle line:84%
That would say you'd
want to work less.

01:17:36.060 --> 01:17:39.300 align:middle line:84%
This is an opposite example
of what I suggested.

01:17:39.300 --> 01:17:40.900 align:middle line:90%
So we'll do the flip next.

01:17:40.900 --> 01:17:42.120 align:middle line:90%
You'd want to work less.

01:17:42.120 --> 01:17:42.640 align:middle line:90%
Why?

01:17:42.640 --> 01:17:46.680 align:middle line:84%
Because a higher marginal value
of leisure means less leisure.

01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.780 align:middle line:84%
Remember, margin's the
opposite way we think.

01:17:49.780 --> 01:17:52.020 align:middle line:84%
Higher marginal utility
means less consumption.

01:17:52.020 --> 01:17:54.460 align:middle line:84%
Higher marginal value of
leisure means less leisure.

01:17:54.460 --> 01:17:57.880 align:middle line:84%
So if you consider
benefits, that's

01:17:57.880 --> 01:17:59.600 align:middle line:84%
an example where
actually, the wage

01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:01.980 align:middle line:84%
is going to understate
the value of leisure.

01:18:01.980 --> 01:18:04.000 align:middle line:84%
What would be an
example the wage

01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.280 align:middle line:84%
might overstate the
value of leisure.

01:18:06.280 --> 01:18:06.820 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:18:06.820 --> 01:18:08.660 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: You might
want to work more.

01:18:08.660 --> 01:18:09.460 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: You might
want to work more.

01:18:09.460 --> 01:18:10.340 align:middle line:90%
But why couldn't you?

01:18:10.340 --> 01:18:12.600 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Not enough
employment opportunities.

01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:16.180 align:middle line:84%
JON GRUBER: Or
there's overtime loss.

01:18:16.180 --> 01:18:20.400 align:middle line:84%
You set W equals MBL, or
MBL at 43.5 hours a week,

01:18:20.400 --> 01:18:22.950 align:middle line:84%
and your employer just won't
let you have more than 40.

01:18:22.950 --> 01:18:24.700 align:middle line:84%
Well, then you're not
working hard enough.

01:18:24.700 --> 01:18:27.140 align:middle line:84%
Your wage is then above your
marginal value of leisure.

01:18:27.140 --> 01:18:30.440 align:middle line:84%
But you can't get to the
point where they're equal.

01:18:30.440 --> 01:18:34.520 align:middle line:84%
So for reasons like these,
wage is an imperfect measure

01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:37.480 align:middle line:84%
of the marginal
value of leisure.

01:18:37.480 --> 01:18:38.620 align:middle line:90%
Let me stop there.

01:18:38.620 --> 01:18:39.560 align:middle line:90%
We'll come back.

01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:42.240 align:middle line:84%
Paul, we should start
next time with table 8-2.

01:18:42.240 --> 01:18:46.740 align:middle line:84%
And it will do 8-2, 8-3, 8-4,
and then the table in Chapter 9.

01:18:46.740 --> 01:18:50.430 align:middle line:84%
So we'll finish up chapter
8 and get into chapter 9.

01:18:50.430 --> 01:18:55.000 align:middle line:90%