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BEN OLKEN: OK, let's
get started, everyone.

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All right, so just to remind
you guys where we were,

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we're talking about land issues.

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And in the previous lecture,
we talked about moral hazard

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issues and how do we think
about moral hazard in land.

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And the second piece
of the land puzzle

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that I want to
talk about today is

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about land titling and the
impacts of land titling.

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So that's going to be
the main thing today.

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So there's a few other things
I just wanted to finish up,

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on land, on the moral
hazard stuff first.

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So I think we basically
finished the-- we finished

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the discussion of the
experimental paper.

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The last thing I just
wanted to mention

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was if you think about
the theoretical models

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that I outlined last time, we
talked about both moral hazard

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models and limited
liability models,

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insurance kind of motives and
limited liability challenges.

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And you might want to
distinguish between those two.

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And here, I don't know
of a super great paper

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that does that.

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So I just wanted to
mention this because it

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seems like a natural thing
that you'd like to distinguish

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between those two.

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There's a paper by
Laffont and Matoussi

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that thinks about this.

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This is, as far as I know,
the original limited liability

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sharecropping kind of paper.

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When you say original, it's
always a risk of someone

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to find something
from before that.

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That's the one I know of.

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And in their paper, the
way they think about this,

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they think of this idea
of working capital.

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So working capital is
like money that you

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have available to you in the
short run for buying things,

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like paying your rent or
buying your fertilizer inputs,

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or whatever.

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And their idea is that
that working capital

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is the thing that's going to
determine the limited liability

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constraint for how
much you pay upfront.

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So in their model
they, basically say,

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instead of saying l has
to be greater than 0,

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they put in this constraint
that the amount that you pay--

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this l is the payment
in the low state,

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if you remember from the
model we had last time.

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So l greater than K, then the
higher K, the more the contract

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looks like a rental
contract rather than

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a sharecropping contract.

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So that's fine, whereas
in a risk aversion model,

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then what should matter
is your total wealth, not

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just the amount of
liquid assets you have.

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So that's the test they use to
argue for limited liability.

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So what do you think
of this as a test--

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good idea, bad idea?

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What do you think?

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It's plausible, not plausible?

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Yeah, Aaron.

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AUDIENCE: Wouldn't
you mean that wealth

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is pretty highly correlated
with working capital?

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BEN OLKEN: Yeah.

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Suppose you could
measure them both.

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AUDIENCE: I mean, another--

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don't we also think that risk
aversion is decreasing overall,

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so that--

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BEN OLKEN: That's-- yeah,
that's the idea, exactly right.

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So risk aversion
would be decreasing.

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so the idea of the test is
risk aversion should be--

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if is a risk
aversion model, then

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the determinants of
whatever-- of sharecropping

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or whatever-- should
be your total wealth.

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Because in a risk
aversion model, your--

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well I'm not going to write it
down because I'll get it wrong.

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But your utility is a function
of your total consumption.

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Your total consumption is a
function of your total wealth.

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And you can use
your total wealth

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to smooth your
consumption choices.

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So that's kind of what's
driving risk aversion.

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That's why risk aversion should
be a function of total wealth

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whereas the limited
liability is that you

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have cash that you need to pay.

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

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BEN OLKEN: So yes, exactly.

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The idea is if it's a
function of total wealth,

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it should be the
risk aversion model.

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If it's a function of
the limited liability,

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they're going to argue it's--

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sorry, if it's a function
of working capital,

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they're going to argue it's
the limited liability model.

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So what else do you think--

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good idea, not good idea?

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If I were to put up the
results, is this is a good test?

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Yeah.

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AUDIENCE: I just
asked is it clear

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those two things are different?

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So if someone [INAUDIBLE]
household [INAUDIBLE]??

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BEN OLKEN: That's
true, but again,

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that's a related
question to Aaron's.

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So suppose I can
run a regression.

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Suppose I get data,
and I run sharecropping

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is equal to alpha K plus
beta W plus epsilon,

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where this is working capital.

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And this thing is
your total wealth.

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So to run this
regression, number one,

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I have to be able to measure
these two things separately.

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And number two, I have
to have some variation.

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So you're right--
for some households,

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they'll be the same,
but those aren't

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the ones we're going
to identify this thing.

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I mean, if everyone
looked like that,

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then you wouldn't be able
to run this regression.

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So this is going to
be identified off

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of some households that have
different amounts of working

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capital and some households with
different amounts of wealth.

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So yes, some of them will
have none of anything,

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but then some must have some
wealth and not much working

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capital, and some
must have some working

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capital and not much wealth.

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That's what can identify
this regression.

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So suppose you can
run this regression

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and you get some
coefficients alpha and beta.

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What do you think
that tells you?

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Or is a good test
or not a good test?

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Yeah, [INAUDIBLE]
what do you think?

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AUDIENCE: Why do we think
that what capital is

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this [INAUDIBLE]
measure [INAUDIBLE]..

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BEN OLKEN: Sorry, you guys--

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AUDIENCE: Sorry, why do
we think working capital

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is the limit of--

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couldn't someone
be taken to court,

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get total wealth extracted?

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BEN OLKEN: Yeah, so right.

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So number one is it
could go the other way.

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So could be if you have
wealth, you could go to court

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and get the wealth.

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You could.

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So that's one reason.

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So I agree with you.

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So certainly in a
well-functioning legal system,

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absolutely, they go
after your total assets.

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They can make you sell
illiquid assets or whatever.

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And so that's one thing.

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What else?

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Yeah, [INAUDIBLE].

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AUDIENCE: They are
naturally [INAUDIBLE]

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and I would think
[INAUDIBLE] wealth

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is measured with much more
error than [INAUDIBLE]..

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BEN OLKEN: Yeah, so actually,
I'm not sure I agree with that.

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But you're right that there
could be measurement error.

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They're correlated in
their measurement error.

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So I agree that's going to
be a problem for interpreting

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this regression.

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So that's all kind of related
the measurement issues.

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But the reason I'm not
sure I agree is actually,

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your total wealth, if
most of it's in your land,

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that might be
relatively easy to value

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compared to actually adding
up your working capital.

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It may be hard to find that.

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So it's not obvious to me
which is a better measure.

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AUDIENCE: Because we
are computing for both,

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they are adding both.

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BEN OLKEN: Yes, I agree.

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So if you have
measurement error,

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if one thing is measured
poorly and they're correlated,

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that could be a problem
in this regression.

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Yeah.

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AUDIENCE: I don't have
the [INAUDIBLE] to that,

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but I feel like having
no working capital would

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make [INAUDIBLE].

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BEN OLKEN: Yeah, so why?

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Tell me more about that.

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AUDIENCE: Well, it's just like--

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it just seems like--

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I don't know, it just
seems like there's

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this direct relationship.

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BEN OLKEN: Yeah.

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AUDIENCE: I don't
know, is that--

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BEN OLKEN: Yes, that's
exactly-- so that's

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the second thing I think is a
challenge with this regression,

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actually.

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I agree with you.

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So if you think about, if you
take any Behavioral Economics,

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you'll see that people make
all kinds of risk-aversion

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decisions based on things
that don't look like--

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the standard economic model
says you should be making--

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what should matter
is your total wealth

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because that's going to
affect the degree you can kind

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of smooth your consumption
from period to period,

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and/or you're directly risk
averse over your total wealth.

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But we know people make all
kinds of decisions that look

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like they're not like that.

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So people think
about cash on hand.

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They make decisions over
much smaller lotteries.

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So it's, I think,
very easy to think

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that if I have some cash
on hand that's very liquid,

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and then a bunch of
stuff that's illiquid,

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I might be thinking
about the liquid piece

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when I'm making my--

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thinking about my risk
aversion decisions,

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even though our good
economic model says that that

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shouldn't be the case.

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So I think that's exactly the
second set of concerns here.

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There's also a
non-behavioral economic story

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to that, which is
just like if there

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are costs of taking
the non-working capital

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piece of my wealth
that's not liquid--

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like I own a lot of land.

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Yes, I own that,
but actually, there

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could be some costs of using
that for consumption smoothing.

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And even a straightforward
economic model

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might say that actually, the
working capital is more liquid

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and therefore, I going
to be more risk averse--

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my risk aversion will be
determined by that piece, not

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the overall wealth.

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So I think both of these are
a challenge with this test.

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They find that the
working capital is more

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predictive than total wealth.

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And they argue that's an
evidence of sharecropping.

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But I think these are some
reasons why you might not think

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this is the final word on that.

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And I just wanted to think
that through because I think

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that that's like- this test is
an example of taking the theory

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super duper seriously.

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But I think for the reasons
that we talked about, actually,

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it's not totally obvious.

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So that's all I want
to say about that.

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Other questions?

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All right.

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And the final thing I
wanted to say about this

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is, as I mentioned,
I think that there

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are important implications
of these two different models

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for land reform.

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So as we talked about,
under a limited liability,

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this could have a really
big long-run effect.

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The big long effect is it
relaxes kind of your liability

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because you don't pay anybody.

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Under risk aversion, it would--

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you might have
less risk aversion

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because you're not wealthier
because you own the land.

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So on a pure risk
aversion story,

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you would be a
little bit richer.

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But on the other hand, if
you're still risk averse,

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sharecropping might, again,
kind of emerging endogenously

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as a way of insuring
some of the risk

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that you're still faced against.

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So that is a
prediction that would

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be really interesting
to see what happens.

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Like if we do a land reform,
does this kind of institution

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emerge endogenously
again or not?

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And how does that happen?

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And that's not a
paper that I think

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that there's a great paper on.

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More generally, I
think that if you

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think about the paper we
saw about moral hazard,

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another prediction
of a land reform

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is that it should lead to
substantial productivity

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improvements.

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So this one this
one in some sense

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is about how do we share
kind of what's going on.

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So several things-- number
one is land reform should make

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the--

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if you're just giving
the land, if you're just

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redistributing it, that
should make people richer.

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Number two, this
is unclear what's

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going to happen to the
form of the contract.

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Number three, if there's
moral hazard going on

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and you don't end up back
in the share arrangement,

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then you might
think there's going

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to be substantial
increases in output.

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Yeah, Kyle, do you
have a question?

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It's a little hard to tell
people without the math

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sometimes.

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So it would be
really nice, I think,

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to understand what the
implications of land reform

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are.

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And my own view is
that I feel like there

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is an awesome land reform
paper waiting to be written.

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And in particular--
first of all,

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there are a lot more failed
land reforms successful land

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reforms.

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There was a huge amount
of political pushback

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against land reform for,
I think, obvious reasons.

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The people who were going to get
their land taken away from them

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were A, upset, and B, wealthy.

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And so it's not
totally surprising they

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were able to push back.

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So a lot of them didn't work.

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But some of them did.

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It was a few.

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At least I think there
were some examples.

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And so some of them had
sharp discontinuities

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in the amount of
land people could

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retain, like up to 1 hectare,
up to 5 hectares, or whatever.

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So it feels like you
should be able to--

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if you had the
right data, I could

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imagine you could match
your pre-period data

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on what land parcels were
and you could somehow

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match everything.

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You could find
discontinuity in your data.

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You could try to do that.

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And then you can
watch what happened,

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both to the people
who got wealthier,

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to the land-- did it get more
productive-- to the contract

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form, all that stuff.

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So there's a paper
by Kitamura in Japan,

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which tries something similar to
this but without the microdata.

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They have to
aggregate things up.

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There was a paper by
Joonas Tuhkuri, who's

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a grad student
actually [INAUDIBLE]

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market tried at some
point to study in Finland.

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For some reason,
it didn't work out.

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I don't remember why.

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I, working with a grad
student a number of years ago,

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spent a summer, or the student
spent a summer working with me,

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looking around for examples all
around the world of examples

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where we had the-- could
find the discontinuity,

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and the landform that
happened, and the data.

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And we didn't come up with any.

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But I'm just going to
leave this out here

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as something I would
like to see in a paper.

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Because an important
part of a PhD class

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is not just showing you the
papers that have been written,

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but mentioning papers that
haven't been written yet.

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Because that's kind of,
of course, the goal.

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So anyway, some
related studies--

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here are two that came
out relatively recently

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that are related.

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There's also a paper by
Abhijit and coauthors

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looking at a tenancy reform in
West Bengal, which basically,

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as I understand it, gave
existing sharecropped people

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greater protections and greater
rights, but didn't actually

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change, totally go all the
way to the farm ownership.

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But that is another
one you can look at.

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The paper by Galan, which is
a study of Columbia, which

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looks at people who were--

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there was this program that
provided land for the poor.

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So this is closer.

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I don't think it's quite the
same, for a variety of reasons,

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but I'll mention this one
as one you could look at.

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There's also a paper
by Montero, which

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is an RD that haciendas,
large haciendas,

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were reorganized into
worker cooperatives.

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But of course,
worker cooperatives

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are not the same as divvying
everything up individually

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to the individual worker.

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So these papers are
closer and interested.

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And I would recommend these
plus the West [INAUDIBLE] Bengal

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paper, all of these are
in the West Bengal paper,

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if you're interested
in this topic.

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OK, that's what I want to say
on moral hazard and land reform

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before I move on
to land titling.

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Any last questions or comments?

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So the discussion
thus far-- yeah.

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AUDIENCE: I have a question.

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So if in any of these letter
forms, what you're doing

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is you're giving property
rights to some people.

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Are they then required
to farm that land,

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or can they become
landlords themselves?

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BEN OLKEN: I think it depends.

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But I'm going to talk
about some of this.

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Yeah, I think it would depend.

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That would be one of
the things you decide.

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In principle-- but that's
actually kind of related

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to some of these other
questions, like or can

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they choose to become
sharecroppers again?

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Could they choose to sell
the land, pocket the money,

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or exit farming entirely?

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Maybe the other thing they could
do is they could sell the land

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and move to the city.

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So there's lots-- if
you have that kind

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of complete ownership, you
can do what you want with it.

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But in many cases,
but in some cases, no.

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And actually, that understanding
of whether or not--

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whether you get the land
and it's fully sellable

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and transferable
versus you get the land

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but you can't get rid of
it-- has huge implications.

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Because you might
decide you don't

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want to be a farmer anymore.

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And so the efficient thing
to do is sell the farm

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and move to the city.

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But if you're tied
to the land, then you

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can be stuck with that.

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And I'm going to talk about
some related issues in the land

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titling section
right now, actually.

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So the discussion
thus far has been

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about contract type,
essentially, own versus rent

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and the implications
for moral hazard.

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But what I want to talk
about now is this idea that--

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this is kind of
related, actually,

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to this point--
conditional on owning,

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there are different
degrees of ownership.

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And those can matter in
really important ways.

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And in particular, many people
in many developing countries

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do not have well-protected
formal titles to their land.

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So when you think
of a land title,

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you probably think of a deed
that says, this is my land,

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and I can, if I want
to sell the house,

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or sell it, or mortgage
it, or whatever--

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that piece of paper
saying this is the land,

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this is my title to the
land, is really important.

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And so if you don't have
formal title to your land--

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maybe you own it, but it's kind
of some informal understanding

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that you own it--
that can create

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all kinds of distortions.

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For example, it might
have reduced investment.

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So for example, if I don't know
that I own the land forever,

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then I might not want to put
a lot of fixed investments

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into my land because
I can be worried

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that I'm going to get
expropriated and lose

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the returns of that investment.

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I may have to put
in costly effort

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to prevent expropriation.

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So for example, I may
have to stick around.

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If I own the land and I
have clear title to it,

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I can go work in the
city and be confident

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that my land will still be
there and still be owned to me.

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If my title is not
great, I may actually

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have to be there
to prevent someone

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else from coming and taking it.

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So there are things
you have to do.

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And we're going to
talk about all this.

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This is an overview.

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Another is misallocation.

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so if you think about the
Coase theorem, which you

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guys have heard of the
Coase theorem, yes, no?

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I always assume that
everyone-- sometimes

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I assume everyone
knows everything.

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Of course, then what would be
the point of having the class?

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So in the Coase
theorem, it basically

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says if we have good, formal,
transferable property rights,

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then the property
should end up being

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owned by the person who's going
to the most efficient owner.

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And if we have a
transfer-- if we

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have full ownership in markets,
we'll be able to do that.

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Because if I have a higher
value of the land than you do,

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I'll offer to buy
the land for more,

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and eventually,
the land will get

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allocated to people with the
highest value of the land.

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But if I can't sell
the land, then we

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could end up in a world with
misallocation, and people

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who are not particularly
good farmers

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or whatever may end up
owning the land because they

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can't sell it to people
who'll be better farmers.

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And the fourth one is that I
can't either sell or mortgage

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the property or use it
for other transactions.

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So if you ever--

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I suspect none of you
have bought a house yet.

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But when you do someday, you
will probably get a mortgage.

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And the mortgage
basically says, I pledge--

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there's actually two
documents in the US,

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at least if you buy a house.

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One is a loan saying,
which is actually,

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as I discovered when I bought
a house, the short document,

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which basically says, I
owe the bank X $1,000.

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Then the more
complicated document

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is the mortgage,
which basically says,

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and if I don't pay the
loan, you can take my house,

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and that I'm pledging the house
as collateral for the loan.

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And the idea is that the
ability to have good titles

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is important because
then you can use them

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as collateral for loans.

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And it can relax your
credit constraints.

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And there was a big argument
by De Soto, in I guess,

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I think, the late
'80s or early '90s

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or so, which was
basically arguing

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that the lack of formal title
was creating a lot of credit

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constraints and putting
limitations on people's ability

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to borrow.

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So what I want to
talk about now is

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what do we know
about all this stuff.

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And in some sense, De Soto was
saying this is a huge problem,

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and then there was
all this evidence,

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work trying to understand it.

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And you'll see where I think
we are on some of this stuff.

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Questions?

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Overview?

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Yeah.

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Good.

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So as an aside, let me just
say that the institutions

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of property rights
are complicated.

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And by this, I'm going to give
you an example as follows.

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So suppose you were
buying a house,

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and someone offered
you in exchange

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for all the thousands
of dollars what's

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called a "quitclaim" deed.

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A quitclaim deed-- this is a
definition that you can get

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from Wikipedia--

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a quitclaim deed says
the following-- the owner

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or grantor of this
deed terminates

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or quits any right or
claim to the property,

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thereby allowing the
right or the claim

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to transfer to the person
you're granting it to.

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But unlike most
other property deeds,

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a quitclaim deed contains
no title covenant

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and thus, does not offer
any guarantee or warranty

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as to the status of the title.

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So the grantee is entitled
only to whatever interest

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the grantor actually
may or may not

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possess at the time
of the transfer.

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So this means that the
person issuing this deed

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does not guarantee that he or
she actually owns the property,

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or if she does, that no one else
has a claim on the property.

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It's just saying--
this deed basically

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says, if I happen
to own anything

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in this property, whatever I
may or may not own, it's yours.

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So would you buy that house?

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What do you think?

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No.

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Anyone else?

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AUDIENCE: Well, if you have some
mechanism to verify what they

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[INAUDIBLE] very simple
registry, then that's kind of--

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BEN OLKEN: Right.

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Like Salome, when I
first heard about this,

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I thought this sounded insane.

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Why would I possibly do this?

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Turns out every
deed, essentially 95%

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of deeds in the State
of Massachusetts,

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including my house, come
with this form of deed.

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And why is that?

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And why does this possibly work?

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So I think, as you're
saying, Rebecca,

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it's not the quitclaim
deed in isolation.

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So what basically
happens is we here

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in Massachusetts have
very good land records,

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but not perfect land records.

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So when you buy the
quitclaim deed, you can go,

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or your lawyer can
go, and search--

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go to the registry of deeds and
search the history of quitclaim

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deeds back to your house.

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And they can say,
well, so-and-so

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has a quitclaim deed from
some previous person,

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previously so-and-so,
and so forth.

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So it looks like maybe
there's something

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going on there that
looks-- and that gives you

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reasonably good assurance
that the person who's

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giving you the deed
probably owns the house.

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And if not, you also
buy title insurance.

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So when you buy a
house, at least here,

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you have to buy insurance
against the fact

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that maybe they don't
actually own the house.

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And it's a small
enough risk because

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of the pretty good information
that actually, that insurance

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is not--

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I don't think it's particularly
competitively priced,

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I will say.

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But I think that insurance is
not that expensive compared

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to the cost of the house.

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Because as you were
saying, Rebecca,

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they have pretty
good information.

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So this is a pretty small risk.

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So the only point I'm
making is that actually--

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first of all, I
love this example

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because I still can't
get over the fact

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that this is how
this actually works.

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But I think the broader
point here is it's not just--

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you have to think about the
whole set of institutions

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in their entirety and how all
the different pieces of them

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work together.

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This not super great deed
works reasonably well

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as part of a three-part
process where

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you have these reasonable
deeds, very good records,

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and title insurance for
the third piece of it.

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And so I think the institutional
details are really important.

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And if you try to
understand them,

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they're important for
understanding them

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if you're ever going to do
anything in this context.

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Another thing which, by
the way, is also kind of--

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let me make one other
general institutional point.

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You may think that why would
there be any possible downside

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to land titling?

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It seems like of
course, we should

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issue really good titles.

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However, let me just
point out that the process

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of actually going
through and titling land

00:26:03.970 --> 00:26:05.600 align:middle line:90%
is very, very complicated.

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So if you're in a world
with informal boundaries

00:26:08.560 --> 00:26:11.050 align:middle line:84%
or whatever, and you're
going to title them,

00:26:11.050 --> 00:26:12.520 align:middle line:84%
everyone understands
that whatever

00:26:12.520 --> 00:26:14.290 align:middle line:84%
titles get marked
down and delineated

00:26:14.290 --> 00:26:17.650 align:middle line:84%
are going to be actual
land border definitions now

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and forever.

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And so every possible dispute
over every possible border

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has to be adjudicated
and settled

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before the titling is done.

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So you might imagine that
there's lots of borders

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that we don't actually
need to really worry about.

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It's kind of like
we have our land,

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and there's kind of
some forests in between,

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and we kind of know
roughly where the thing is.

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And that's fine for a lot for
us because you and I don't

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actually particularly
care whether the border is

00:26:48.900 --> 00:26:50.922 align:middle line:84%
on this side of the
table or a foot over here

00:26:50.922 --> 00:26:53.130 align:middle line:84%
on this side of the table,
because it's approximately

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the border and we're good.

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It seems like it's fine.

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But if the government is
going to come on and say,

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this is the answer, every
single one of those disputes

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has to be adjudicated.

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So in some sense,
you move from a world

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where disputes are
only adjudicated

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in the small set of cases where
they actually matter to a world

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where you have to actually
adjudicate everything up front.

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And that could be costly.

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I'm not saying, by the
way, it's not worth it.

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I'm just saying it's worth
thinking those things through.

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There are other
issues that, if you're

00:27:21.540 --> 00:27:23.050 align:middle line:84%
interested in this stuff,
get kind of complicated.

00:27:23.050 --> 00:27:24.210 align:middle line:84%
For example, another
reason why we

00:27:24.210 --> 00:27:25.963 align:middle line:84%
have these crazy
deeds in Massachusetts

00:27:25.963 --> 00:27:27.630 align:middle line:84%
is there's a common
law principle called

00:27:27.630 --> 00:27:29.400 align:middle line:84%
adverse possession,
which basically means

00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:33.240 align:middle line:84%
if I'm using land for a
certain number of years,

00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.983 align:middle line:84%
and no one has explicitly
given me permission to use it,

00:27:36.983 --> 00:27:38.400 align:middle line:84%
no one's stopped
me from using it.

00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:40.430 align:middle line:84%
I just kind of do it and
nobody says anything.

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After a certain number
of years, that land

00:27:42.180 --> 00:27:43.170 align:middle line:90%
actually becomes mine.

00:27:43.170 --> 00:27:45.437 align:middle line:90%
That's a common law principle.

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And so actually, another
reason we have the crazy deeds,

00:27:47.770 --> 00:27:50.500 align:middle line:84%
we don't know actually what's
happened with all that usage

00:27:50.500 --> 00:27:51.000 align:middle line:90%
stuff.

00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:53.670 align:middle line:84%
And in fact, there would
be reasonable reasons

00:27:53.670 --> 00:27:57.990 align:middle line:84%
to have those kinds of things to
formally recognize things that

00:27:57.990 --> 00:27:59.740 align:middle line:90%
have been happening over time.

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So my only point
is I actually think

00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:06.630 align:middle line:84%
that the details of how
do you do all this titling

00:28:06.630 --> 00:28:08.580 align:middle line:84%
are probably a lot
more complicated

00:28:08.580 --> 00:28:11.378 align:middle line:84%
than you might at first
think, of oh, it's your house.

00:28:11.378 --> 00:28:12.420 align:middle line:90%
I sent you a little deed.

00:28:12.420 --> 00:28:13.378 align:middle line:90%
Write down, we're done.

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The actual process of
doing it is interesting.

00:28:15.295 --> 00:28:17.880 align:middle line:84%
And I suspect there's probably
some interesting and good

00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:21.643 align:middle line:84%
research to be done on the
details of how do you do that.

00:28:21.643 --> 00:28:23.310 align:middle line:84%
There could be really
interesting papers

00:28:23.310 --> 00:28:27.085 align:middle line:90%
on the adjudication process.

00:28:27.085 --> 00:28:29.460 align:middle line:84%
I, at one point, wanted to do
a paper on the adjudication

00:28:29.460 --> 00:28:30.090 align:middle line:90%
process.

00:28:30.090 --> 00:28:32.550 align:middle line:84%
And how do you actually
get communities to agree

00:28:32.550 --> 00:28:34.750 align:middle line:90%
on what the titles are?

00:28:34.750 --> 00:28:38.010 align:middle line:84%
And maybe if-- how does
the political environment

00:28:38.010 --> 00:28:40.010 align:middle line:84%
affect kind of that
adjudication process?

00:28:40.010 --> 00:28:42.010 align:middle line:84%
I think there's lots of
interesting stuff there.

00:28:42.010 --> 00:28:45.300 align:middle line:84%
So I just wanted to mention that
before I talk about it a bit.

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Yeah, kind of,

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AUDIENCE: When you're
thinking about this

00:28:47.878 --> 00:28:51.100 align:middle line:84%
and the risk of the
limited liability stuff,

00:28:51.100 --> 00:28:54.390 align:middle line:84%
is it like that we are sure
that land is being used

00:28:54.390 --> 00:28:56.890 align:middle line:84%
inefficiently in
developing countries,

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and we're trying to
figure out why that is?

00:28:58.990 --> 00:29:01.760 align:middle line:84%
Or is it like there
are these problems?

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BEN OLKEN: I'm going to talk
a little bit about that later.

00:29:04.280 --> 00:29:16.030 align:middle line:84%
So let's come back to that
at the end of this lecture.

00:29:16.030 --> 00:29:17.530 align:middle line:84%
Let me see if some
of the papers I'm

00:29:17.530 --> 00:29:19.160 align:middle line:84%
going to answer
solve your question--

00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:20.410 align:middle line:90%
answer some of your questions.

00:29:20.410 --> 00:29:21.952 align:middle line:84%
Because there are
at least a few that

00:29:21.952 --> 00:29:23.740 align:middle line:90%
are going to show inefficiency.

00:29:23.740 --> 00:29:27.060 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, question?

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All right, so now, I want
to talk about the four--

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after my little aside--
the four institutions,

00:29:34.260 --> 00:29:36.390 align:middle line:84%
the four little pieces,
four pieces here.

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What are the impacts
on investment,

00:29:38.100 --> 00:29:41.790 align:middle line:84%
on effort to prevent
expropriation, misallocation--

00:29:41.790 --> 00:29:44.830 align:middle line:84%
which is a bit kind
of related to--

00:29:44.830 --> 00:29:48.150 align:middle line:84%
sorry, on inability
for collateral.

00:29:48.150 --> 00:29:50.240 align:middle line:84%
I think all of these,
actually in some sense,

00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.740 align:middle line:84%
are trying to answer versions
of the efficiency consequences

00:29:52.740 --> 00:29:54.848 align:middle line:90%
question.

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Only one of them is like
the wrong people own it.

00:29:56.890 --> 00:29:58.830 align:middle line:84%
But all of these
are saying on net,

00:29:58.830 --> 00:30:01.420 align:middle line:84%
does all this stuff have
inefficiency consequences?

00:30:01.420 --> 00:30:04.270 align:middle line:84%
Not necessarily because of
moral hazard, but in general.

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00:30:07.273 --> 00:30:08.940 align:middle line:84%
And I think the answer
to your question,

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I think the point of
that [INAUDIBLE] paper

00:30:10.732 --> 00:30:14.360 align:middle line:84%
that we read last time was
that does show the efficiency

00:30:14.360 --> 00:30:16.670 align:middle line:84%
consequences of
the sharecropping

00:30:16.670 --> 00:30:18.585 align:middle line:90%
arrangements associated.

00:30:18.585 --> 00:30:19.710 align:middle line:90%
That was kind of the point.

00:30:19.710 --> 00:30:23.310 align:middle line:90%


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So the first thing I want
to talk about is investment

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and how does investment change
with better property rights.

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So Goldstein law, we're going
to study a land demarcation

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paper in Benin.

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Now note-- this is
not the titling piece.

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This is the demarcation piece.

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So I don't think they actually
then fully title everything,

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but they're just going through
where exactly are the borders

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piece, and let's
all agree on that.

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But you can think
of this as part

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of the process of moving towards
clarifying property rights.

00:31:01.490 --> 00:31:02.990 align:middle line:84%
And there's an
expectation this will

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form the basis of a
future property titling,

00:31:05.118 --> 00:31:07.660 align:middle line:84%
but they haven't actually done
that at the time of the study.

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Now, what I want to talk
about for a sec here

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is this experimental design.

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So take a minute and
have a look at this.

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And if you can't read
it, hopefully, you still

00:31:16.650 --> 00:31:18.525 align:middle line:84%
have your handout from
last time because this

00:31:18.525 --> 00:31:21.240 align:middle line:90%
is reproduced in the handout.

00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.810 align:middle line:84%
I want to compare the
experimental design

00:31:24.810 --> 00:31:27.360 align:middle line:84%
they did on the left with
the experimental design

00:31:27.360 --> 00:31:29.850 align:middle line:84%
that one could have
done on the right.

00:31:29.850 --> 00:31:32.802 align:middle line:84%
And I will put as
an aside, I put this

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up there because I put this
once as an exam question,

00:31:35.010 --> 00:31:36.670 align:middle line:84%
and I felt like people did
not fully know the answer.

00:31:36.670 --> 00:31:38.337 align:middle line:84%
So I decided it should
go in the lecture

00:31:38.337 --> 00:31:40.615 align:middle line:90%
rather than on the exam.

00:31:40.615 --> 00:31:41.490 align:middle line:90%
So what do you think?

00:31:41.490 --> 00:31:44.770 align:middle line:84%
What's the difference between
these two experimental designs?

00:31:44.770 --> 00:31:48.142 align:middle line:84%
So what's different about
these two experimental designs?

00:31:48.142 --> 00:31:49.350 align:middle line:90%
It's a randomized experiment.

00:31:49.350 --> 00:31:52.440 align:middle line:84%
We're going to randomize
these two different--

00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:53.820 align:middle line:84%
we're going to
randomize villages

00:31:53.820 --> 00:31:58.440 align:middle line:84%
into the getting this kind of
land titling treatment or not.

00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:00.845 align:middle line:90%
And let's forget about this.

00:32:00.845 --> 00:32:02.970 align:middle line:84%
I don't remember what this
EMICoV thing is exactly.

00:32:02.970 --> 00:32:03.970 align:middle line:90%
Let's forget about this.

00:32:03.970 --> 00:32:10.960 align:middle line:84%
I think it's actually not
essential to this, not central.

00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.120 align:middle line:84%
So what's the difference
between these two designs?

00:32:13.120 --> 00:32:17.980 align:middle line:90%


00:32:17.980 --> 00:32:19.435 align:middle line:90%
OK, go ahead, Christine.

00:32:19.435 --> 00:32:21.190 align:middle line:84%
I haven't heard
from you in a while.

00:32:21.190 --> 00:32:24.190 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: In the
left hand, you're

00:32:24.190 --> 00:32:27.150 align:middle line:84%
working only with villages
that are interested.

00:32:27.150 --> 00:32:30.720 align:middle line:84%
And on the right
hand, you are working

00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.020 align:middle line:84%
with villages that are both
interested and not interested.

00:32:34.020 --> 00:32:37.290 align:middle line:90%


00:32:37.290 --> 00:32:38.220 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: No.

00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:39.060 align:middle line:90%
Well, not really.

00:32:39.060 --> 00:32:41.850 align:middle line:84%
So what do you
mean, working with?

00:32:41.850 --> 00:32:45.830 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I mean,
[INAUDIBLE] people

00:32:45.830 --> 00:32:49.247 align:middle line:84%
only from a subset of people
that self-selected and be

00:32:49.247 --> 00:32:50.330 align:middle line:90%
interested in this design.

00:32:50.330 --> 00:32:50.890 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: On the left one.

00:32:50.890 --> 00:32:51.680 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Yeah.

00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.700 align:middle line:84%
And on the right hand, you have
controls that could be either

00:32:55.700 --> 00:32:57.650 align:middle line:90%
inclusive or not.

00:32:57.650 --> 00:33:04.370 align:middle line:84%
And [INAUDIBLE] people that are
interested or not interested.

00:33:04.370 --> 00:33:06.770 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Correct.

00:33:06.770 --> 00:33:07.310 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

00:33:07.310 --> 00:33:08.810 align:middle line:84%
I think that is the
main difference.

00:33:08.810 --> 00:33:12.050 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE] Same thing?

00:33:12.050 --> 00:33:14.391 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Oh, I guess
yeah, you might only

00:33:14.391 --> 00:33:17.734 align:middle line:84%
be interested in the
population of villages that are

00:33:17.734 --> 00:33:21.250 align:middle line:90%
interested and informed anyway.

00:33:21.250 --> 00:33:25.144 align:middle line:84%
So if you're looking to find
a treatment [INAUDIBLE]..

00:33:25.144 --> 00:33:28.622 align:middle line:90%


00:33:28.622 --> 00:33:30.830 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah, that would
be interested population.

00:33:30.830 --> 00:33:32.330 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, Pablo, what do you think?

00:33:32.330 --> 00:33:35.270 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: The last piece
is the eligibility part.

00:33:35.270 --> 00:33:43.450 align:middle line:84%
So on the left-hand side,
there are eligible villages

00:33:43.450 --> 00:33:46.930 align:middle line:84%
that are interested that are
stratified into treatment

00:33:46.930 --> 00:33:48.370 align:middle line:90%
and control groups.

00:33:48.370 --> 00:33:51.310 align:middle line:84%
Whereas on the
left-hand side, once

00:33:51.310 --> 00:33:53.052 align:middle line:84%
you're in the treatment
group, if you're

00:33:53.052 --> 00:33:55.510 align:middle line:84%
interested and eligible, you're
always going to be treated.

00:33:55.510 --> 00:33:56.260 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: [INAUDIBLE].

00:33:56.260 --> 00:33:58.052 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: You're always
going to be treated

00:33:58.052 --> 00:34:00.910 align:middle line:84%
if you are interested and
eligible, and [INAUDIBLE]

00:34:00.910 --> 00:34:03.140 align:middle line:90%
treatment [INAUDIBLE].

00:34:03.140 --> 00:34:05.240 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah, so how
we deal with interest

00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:06.230 align:middle line:84%
and how we deal
with eligibility,

00:34:06.230 --> 00:34:08.397 align:middle line:84%
we deal with them at different
stages of this design

00:34:08.397 --> 00:34:09.030 align:middle line:90%
and before--

00:34:09.030 --> 00:34:11.558 align:middle line:84%
so now my next question--
that's the key difference.

00:34:11.558 --> 00:34:12.350 align:middle line:90%
So which is better?

00:34:12.350 --> 00:34:13.475 align:middle line:90%
Which is the better design?

00:34:13.475 --> 00:34:18.260 align:middle line:90%


00:34:18.260 --> 00:34:20.514 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: The one on
the left seems better.

00:34:20.514 --> 00:34:22.139 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Sorry,
what were you saying?

00:34:22.139 --> 00:34:24.625 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Doesn't that
depend on what effect

00:34:24.625 --> 00:34:25.750 align:middle line:90%
you are trying to estimate.

00:34:25.750 --> 00:34:27.639 align:middle line:84%
Because treatment
group is the same.

00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.110 align:middle line:84%
Control groups
will be different.

00:34:30.110 --> 00:34:31.750 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: So
Ahmed says maybe it

00:34:31.750 --> 00:34:33.790 align:middle line:84%
depends on what you're
going to estimate.

00:34:33.790 --> 00:34:36.940 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE],, why do you
think the left one's better?

00:34:36.940 --> 00:34:40.210 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: So you are--

00:34:40.210 --> 00:34:44.170 align:middle line:84%
I mean, the classification of
knowing what types of people

00:34:44.170 --> 00:34:47.350 align:middle line:84%
are in the control group, you
don't know because you're not

00:34:47.350 --> 00:34:49.300 align:middle line:90%
measuring this.

00:34:49.300 --> 00:34:51.429 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Right, you
don't know who's over here.

00:34:51.429 --> 00:34:52.846 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: And also,
you're getting

00:34:52.846 --> 00:34:56.985 align:middle line:84%
pretty intense selection
effects on the right side.

00:34:56.985 --> 00:34:59.500 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: OK, so when
you say selection effects,

00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:00.495 align:middle line:90%
what do you mean?

00:35:00.495 --> 00:35:01.870 align:middle line:84%
So does this give
you the right--

00:35:01.870 --> 00:35:06.520 align:middle line:90%


00:35:06.520 --> 00:35:10.283 align:middle line:84%
are both these designs
internally valid?

00:35:10.283 --> 00:35:11.116 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: I suppose.

00:35:11.116 --> 00:35:12.742 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Let me
ask you a question.

00:35:12.742 --> 00:35:14.200 align:middle line:84%
So do these designs
differ in terms

00:35:14.200 --> 00:35:15.880 align:middle line:84%
of their internal validity
or external validity?

00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.505 align:middle line:84%
Let me ask those more
simple questions.

00:35:17.505 --> 00:35:19.458 align:middle line:90%


00:35:19.458 --> 00:35:21.000 align:middle line:84%
Sorry, Patrick, you
had your hand up.

00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:21.673 align:middle line:90%
I'm sorry.

00:35:21.673 --> 00:35:23.340 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I mean, it
was just addressing

00:35:23.340 --> 00:35:24.290 align:middle line:90%
which one was better.

00:35:24.290 --> 00:35:25.165 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: I'm sorry?

00:35:25.165 --> 00:35:27.380 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: It was just
addressing which one is better.

00:35:27.380 --> 00:35:28.268 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Which one?

00:35:28.268 --> 00:35:30.060 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I think if
power is not an issue,

00:35:30.060 --> 00:35:31.670 align:middle line:90%
I'd say the right-hand side.

00:35:31.670 --> 00:35:33.770 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: But we live
in a finite world,

00:35:33.770 --> 00:35:34.853 align:middle line:90%
so which one do you think?

00:35:34.853 --> 00:35:36.933 align:middle line:90%


00:35:36.933 --> 00:35:37.850 align:middle line:90%
We have finite number.

00:35:37.850 --> 00:35:40.310 align:middle line:84%
We've got a finite
number of villages.

00:35:40.310 --> 00:35:42.890 align:middle line:84%
Let's suppose we have
600 villages over here,

00:35:42.890 --> 00:35:44.820 align:middle line:84%
or 1,000 villages, finite
number of villages.

00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:53.100 align:middle line:90%


00:35:53.100 --> 00:35:54.460 align:middle line:90%
Sorry, what were you saying?

00:35:54.460 --> 00:35:56.252 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Probably for
the right-hand side,

00:35:56.252 --> 00:35:58.790 align:middle line:84%
are we going to just
calculate average [INAUDIBLE]??

00:35:58.790 --> 00:36:00.500 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Sorry, you
guys speak louder.

00:36:00.500 --> 00:36:01.560 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: For the
right-hand side,

00:36:01.560 --> 00:36:03.810 align:middle line:84%
are we just going to calculate
the average differences

00:36:03.810 --> 00:36:05.587 align:middle line:84%
between the treatment
and control?

00:36:05.587 --> 00:36:07.420 align:middle line:84%
Or are we also [INAUDIBLE]
the control group

00:36:07.420 --> 00:36:09.920 align:middle line:90%
actually [INAUDIBLE]?

00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:11.920 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: So how are we
going to estimate this?

00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:24.090 align:middle line:84%
So on the left-hand one,
we can run y equals alpha

00:36:24.090 --> 00:36:28.620 align:middle line:90%
treat plus epsilon.

00:36:28.620 --> 00:36:33.930 align:middle line:84%
And on the right-hand one, we
could run an IV regression.

00:36:33.930 --> 00:36:36.270 align:middle line:84%
Because not everyone
on the right-hand one--

00:36:36.270 --> 00:36:37.830 align:middle line:84%
not everyone lotteried
into treatment

00:36:37.830 --> 00:36:38.997 align:middle line:90%
will ultimately get treated.

00:36:38.997 --> 00:36:41.580 align:middle line:90%
So that's a nice case to run IV.

00:36:41.580 --> 00:36:48.900 align:middle line:84%
So we can run IV where we can
run y equals alpha treat--

00:36:48.900 --> 00:36:56.870 align:middle line:84%
alpha get the treat, get
treatment, plus epsilon.

00:36:56.870 --> 00:37:00.260 align:middle line:84%
And we can use the
lottery as an instrument.

00:37:00.260 --> 00:37:08.010 align:middle line:90%


00:37:08.010 --> 00:37:14.460 align:middle line:84%
So my first question
is, are these different

00:37:14.460 --> 00:37:16.397 align:middle line:90%
in terms of internal validity?

00:37:16.397 --> 00:37:18.480 align:middle line:84%
So I think the things we
want to think about are--

00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:22.730 align:middle line:90%


00:37:22.730 --> 00:37:25.760 align:middle line:84%
one is, are these
internally valid?

00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.690 align:middle line:90%


00:37:30.690 --> 00:37:34.230 align:middle line:84%
The second is external
validity or what

00:37:34.230 --> 00:37:41.950 align:middle line:90%
LATE does alpha estimate?

00:37:41.950 --> 00:37:45.950 align:middle line:90%


00:37:45.950 --> 00:37:49.190 align:middle line:90%
And three is what's the power?

00:37:49.190 --> 00:37:52.840 align:middle line:90%
What's the system power here?

00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:53.636 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:37:53.636 --> 00:37:54.628 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]?

00:37:54.628 --> 00:37:59.100 align:middle line:90%


00:37:59.100 --> 00:38:00.220 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Who knows?

00:38:00.220 --> 00:38:01.890 align:middle line:90%
Let's just say it's something.

00:38:01.890 --> 00:38:03.330 align:middle line:90%
I don't remember.

00:38:03.330 --> 00:38:05.430 align:middle line:84%
Let's say it's something
that you can only

00:38:05.430 --> 00:38:09.570 align:middle line:84%
investigate if you go to the
village, and do something,

00:38:09.570 --> 00:38:12.510 align:middle line:84%
and talk to people,
and do some stuff.

00:38:12.510 --> 00:38:21.300 align:middle line:84%
So say it requires some
digging around to figure out.

00:38:21.300 --> 00:38:22.290 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, Reika.

00:38:22.290 --> 00:38:25.110 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So I think
on two, it kind of

00:38:25.110 --> 00:38:28.620 align:middle line:84%
is contingent on whether you
think that this policy could

00:38:28.620 --> 00:38:31.230 align:middle line:84%
be implemented in the event that
a village wasn't interested,

00:38:31.230 --> 00:38:33.605 align:middle line:84%
and also what drives the
village to be interested or not.

00:38:33.605 --> 00:38:36.750 align:middle line:84%
So if you think
that it's just going

00:38:36.750 --> 00:38:39.060 align:middle line:84%
to be categorically
impossible to ever implement

00:38:39.060 --> 00:38:42.180 align:middle line:84%
this in a population
where people are not

00:38:42.180 --> 00:38:43.950 align:middle line:84%
interested in taking
up the treatment,

00:38:43.950 --> 00:38:48.660 align:middle line:84%
then it's not
interesting to you.

00:38:48.660 --> 00:38:51.227 align:middle line:84%
What would measuring the
effect in that population?

00:38:51.227 --> 00:38:53.310 align:middle line:84%
Because it's like you can't
implement that policy.

00:38:53.310 --> 00:38:54.227 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: So I agree.

00:38:54.227 --> 00:38:57.868 align:middle line:84%
So if you never implement
this policy in villages

00:38:57.868 --> 00:39:00.160 align:middle line:84%
that we're interested in,
then LATE is not interesting,

00:39:00.160 --> 00:39:03.260 align:middle line:84%
the LATE of what would be
the average human factor

00:39:03.260 --> 00:39:05.280 align:middle line:84%
in the entire population
is not a relevant LATE.

00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:06.810 align:middle line:84%
Well, you're saying
something else?

00:39:06.810 --> 00:39:07.980 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Oh, yeah.

00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:09.980 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: But we have
another question, though.

00:39:09.980 --> 00:39:12.486 align:middle line:84%
So does the left-hand side
and the right-hand side--

00:39:12.486 --> 00:39:14.653 align:middle line:84%
do they estimate the same
LATE or differently LATEs?

00:39:14.653 --> 00:39:19.090 align:middle line:90%


00:39:19.090 --> 00:39:25.513 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Are you [INAUDIBLE]
the population of--

00:39:25.513 --> 00:39:27.680 align:middle line:84%
are you including when
villages say that they're not

00:39:27.680 --> 00:39:30.758 align:middle line:90%
interested in the treatment?

00:39:30.758 --> 00:39:31.425 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Here?

00:39:31.425 --> 00:39:33.780 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: On the right-hand
side [INAUDIBLE] control group.

00:39:33.780 --> 00:39:34.905 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah, of course.

00:39:34.905 --> 00:39:38.110 align:middle line:84%
So how do we estimate-- how
do we run this regression?

00:39:38.110 --> 00:39:39.820 align:middle line:84%
So how do we run
this regression?

00:39:39.820 --> 00:39:43.530 align:middle line:84%
So in this regression,
let's forget

00:39:43.530 --> 00:39:46.040 align:middle line:84%
about the eligibles,
whatever, just

00:39:46.040 --> 00:39:47.750 align:middle line:90%
to make the life more simple.

00:39:47.750 --> 00:39:51.930 align:middle line:84%
I take these people over
here, only these people,

00:39:51.930 --> 00:39:55.730 align:middle line:84%
and run a regression on
treatment and control.

00:39:55.730 --> 00:40:00.900 align:middle line:84%
In this one, I have to
condition on what I randomize.

00:40:00.900 --> 00:40:04.290 align:middle line:84%
So I take all these
people and I compare them

00:40:04.290 --> 00:40:09.630 align:middle line:84%
to all these people, so I
have data, so I do all that.

00:40:09.630 --> 00:40:12.570 align:middle line:90%
So that's using the regression.

00:40:12.570 --> 00:40:19.590 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] So they're
not measured in the same way?

00:40:19.590 --> 00:40:21.590 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: They're not
measured in the same way.

00:40:21.590 --> 00:40:22.370 align:middle line:90%
Why?

00:40:22.370 --> 00:40:25.820 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Because first,
you've cleaved into--

00:40:25.820 --> 00:40:31.460 align:middle line:84%
in the only villages that
are interested and informed,

00:40:31.460 --> 00:40:34.070 align:middle line:84%
and then your treated versus
control populations [INAUDIBLE]

00:40:34.070 --> 00:40:36.570 align:middle line:84%
conditional on being
interested and informing.

00:40:36.570 --> 00:40:40.560 align:middle line:84%
In the other case, you're
looking at all villages,

00:40:40.560 --> 00:40:44.520 align:middle line:84%
and then you're just
inducing an incentive

00:40:44.520 --> 00:40:48.170 align:middle line:84%
to get treated, and comparing
that against a control

00:40:48.170 --> 00:40:53.063 align:middle line:84%
population that includes
people who are not interested.

00:40:53.063 --> 00:40:53.730 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah.

00:40:53.730 --> 00:40:55.920 align:middle line:84%
So it is definitely
the case, the sample

00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:57.600 align:middle line:90%
here is very different.

00:40:57.600 --> 00:41:01.980 align:middle line:84%
This includes all
the people who are

00:41:01.980 --> 00:41:04.250 align:middle line:90%
interested or not interested.

00:41:04.250 --> 00:41:08.178 align:middle line:90%
Does anyone disagree?

00:41:08.178 --> 00:41:08.720 align:middle line:90%
You disagree?

00:41:08.720 --> 00:41:09.830 align:middle line:90%
Yes, no?

00:41:09.830 --> 00:41:10.790 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, Paolo.

00:41:10.790 --> 00:41:13.430 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: But then if you
do like the classic IV

00:41:13.430 --> 00:41:16.160 align:middle line:84%
thing of how many of the
people actually took it up,

00:41:16.160 --> 00:41:21.020 align:middle line:84%
then you get the LATE exactly
for the people who took it up.

00:41:21.020 --> 00:41:22.670 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah, so say more.

00:41:22.670 --> 00:41:26.240 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So if you
take the average from--

00:41:26.240 --> 00:41:28.010 align:middle line:84%
for the alternative
design, the difference

00:41:28.010 --> 00:41:30.470 align:middle line:84%
between the left branch and
the right branch, and then

00:41:30.470 --> 00:41:32.330 align:middle line:84%
you divide it by the
percent of people

00:41:32.330 --> 00:41:35.090 align:middle line:84%
who took up the
treatment, then you

00:41:35.090 --> 00:41:38.768 align:middle line:84%
would get the coefficient
for the treatment effect

00:41:38.768 --> 00:41:40.310 align:middle line:84%
for the people who
decided to take up

00:41:40.310 --> 00:41:41.972 align:middle line:90%
the program, or the villages.

00:41:41.972 --> 00:41:42.680 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Right.

00:41:42.680 --> 00:41:46.700 align:middle line:84%
So actually, I agree
with you, Paolo.

00:41:46.700 --> 00:41:48.770 align:middle line:84%
So they are different
samples, but they're going

00:41:48.770 --> 00:41:51.270 align:middle line:90%
to get you the exact same LATE.

00:41:51.270 --> 00:41:54.080 align:middle line:84%
So why are they going to
get you the exact same LATE?

00:41:54.080 --> 00:41:55.850 align:middle line:84%
Well, there's this
control group,

00:41:55.850 --> 00:41:57.620 align:middle line:84%
and I agree with you-- that's
going to have lots of people

00:41:57.620 --> 00:41:59.000 align:middle line:90%
who aren't interested in there.

00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:03.380 align:middle line:84%
But none of those people are
going to take it up if offered.

00:42:03.380 --> 00:42:06.540 align:middle line:84%
So we've got a bunch of
controls who don't do anything.

00:42:06.540 --> 00:42:09.708 align:middle line:84%
So who are the people who are in
this treatment group-- and you

00:42:09.708 --> 00:42:11.750 align:middle line:84%
compare everybody over
here, everybody over here.

00:42:11.750 --> 00:42:13.550 align:middle line:84%
Who are the ones who are
going to get the treatment?

00:42:13.550 --> 00:42:15.800 align:middle line:84%
Well, the only ones who are
going to get the treatment

00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.370 align:middle line:84%
are the ones who are
interested and eligible.

00:42:19.370 --> 00:42:24.020 align:middle line:84%
So over here, we're
comparing a change

00:42:24.020 --> 00:42:28.900 align:middle line:84%
for the interested and
eligible group, and no change

00:42:28.900 --> 00:42:31.670 align:middle line:84%
for the not interested
or not eligible group,

00:42:31.670 --> 00:42:34.580 align:middle line:84%
to some kind of weighted average
with the same proportions

00:42:34.580 --> 00:42:36.440 align:middle line:84%
of interested and
eligible people,

00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:37.947 align:middle line:90%
but with no treatment effect.

00:42:37.947 --> 00:42:40.280 align:middle line:84%
So the only difference between
this group and this group

00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:42.020 align:middle line:84%
is the interested
and eligible people

00:42:42.020 --> 00:42:46.430 align:middle line:84%
get the treatment and the
interested and eligible

00:42:46.430 --> 00:42:48.050 align:middle line:84%
controls do not
get the treatment.

00:42:48.050 --> 00:42:51.040 align:middle line:90%
Otherwise, these are the same.

00:42:51.040 --> 00:42:54.212 align:middle line:84%
And over here, it's exactly
the same set of people.

00:42:54.212 --> 00:42:55.920 align:middle line:84%
We're taking the
interested and eligible,

00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.503 align:middle line:84%
and we're comparing the ones who
get the treatment to the ones

00:42:58.503 --> 00:42:59.200 align:middle line:90%
who don't.

00:42:59.200 --> 00:43:02.942 align:middle line:90%
Now, we have a bunch of people.

00:43:02.942 --> 00:43:04.650 align:middle line:84%
In this sample, we
have a bunch of people

00:43:04.650 --> 00:43:07.308 align:middle line:84%
who are in the treatment group
who are not eligible and are

00:43:07.308 --> 00:43:08.850 align:middle line:84%
not interested who
don't get treated,

00:43:08.850 --> 00:43:10.980 align:middle line:84%
and with the analogous
people in the control.

00:43:10.980 --> 00:43:12.472 align:middle line:84%
And that's why we
have to use IV.

00:43:12.472 --> 00:43:14.430 align:middle line:84%
If you compare just the
reduced form estimates,

00:43:14.430 --> 00:43:15.930 align:middle line:84%
they would be different because
you've got all these people who

00:43:15.930 --> 00:43:16.980 align:middle line:90%
aren't doing anything.

00:43:16.980 --> 00:43:22.510 align:middle line:84%
But the relevant set of
compliers is exactly the same.

00:43:22.510 --> 00:43:23.010 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

00:43:23.010 --> 00:43:24.520 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So then
is the difference--

00:43:24.520 --> 00:43:26.687 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Oh, I'm sorry,
let me say one last thing.

00:43:26.687 --> 00:43:29.790 align:middle line:84%
Under the assumption that
being offered the treatment

00:43:29.790 --> 00:43:32.460 align:middle line:84%
and turning it down,
like over here,

00:43:32.460 --> 00:43:35.190 align:middle line:84%
is no different than
being asked over here.

00:43:35.190 --> 00:43:37.350 align:middle line:84%
So under that assumption,
they are identical.

00:43:37.350 --> 00:43:38.395 align:middle line:90%
Sorry, go ahead.

00:43:38.395 --> 00:43:40.020 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: OK, so then
is the difference

00:43:40.020 --> 00:43:42.780 align:middle line:84%
that on the right-hand
side, you're

00:43:42.780 --> 00:43:45.780 align:middle line:84%
ex ante throwing away
a bunch of people

00:43:45.780 --> 00:43:49.150 align:middle line:84%
that could have otherwise
been in your estimate?

00:43:49.150 --> 00:43:51.210 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Useless people.

00:43:51.210 --> 00:43:53.980 align:middle line:84%
You're throwing away useless
people on the right-hand side.

00:43:53.980 --> 00:43:59.310 align:middle line:84%
So you're-- I mean, by
useless, I mean, obviously--

00:43:59.310 --> 00:44:01.780 align:middle line:84%
sorry-- useless for
the point of view

00:44:01.780 --> 00:44:03.030 align:middle line:90%
of estimating this regression.

00:44:03.030 --> 00:44:06.360 align:middle line:84%
They have many wonderful
uses in the world, obviously,

00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.490 align:middle line:84%
but for the point of
view of this regression,

00:44:08.490 --> 00:44:10.560 align:middle line:90%
they are just nuisance.

00:44:10.560 --> 00:44:14.010 align:middle line:84%
They are people who are
in your treatment group

00:44:14.010 --> 00:44:17.640 align:middle line:84%
and in your control group,
but who are never takers.

00:44:17.640 --> 00:44:20.610 align:middle line:84%
So they're never-- they're
just in-- but the problem is

00:44:20.610 --> 00:44:22.680 align:middle line:84%
in this design, in
the control group,

00:44:22.680 --> 00:44:25.170 align:middle line:84%
you don't know who
the never-takers are.

00:44:25.170 --> 00:44:26.700 align:middle line:90%
So we can't drop them.

00:44:26.700 --> 00:44:28.620 align:middle line:84%
We have to include them in the
treatment group and the control

00:44:28.620 --> 00:44:28.920 align:middle line:90%
group.

00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.100 align:middle line:90%
Sorry what were you saying?

00:44:30.100 --> 00:44:34.770 align:middle line:84%
So yes, so what this
design allows you to do

00:44:34.770 --> 00:44:37.620 align:middle line:84%
is figure out who
the never-takers are

00:44:37.620 --> 00:44:39.460 align:middle line:90%
and drop them from the sample.

00:44:39.460 --> 00:44:42.570 align:middle line:84%
And in this design, you can't do
that because I don't know who--

00:44:42.570 --> 00:44:45.720 align:middle line:84%
I know who the never-takers
are in the treatment arm,

00:44:45.720 --> 00:44:48.210 align:middle line:84%
but I don't know who the
comparable never-takers are

00:44:48.210 --> 00:44:49.002 align:middle line:90%
in the control arm.

00:44:49.002 --> 00:44:51.627 align:middle line:84%
So I have to include all of them
in the treatment group and all

00:44:51.627 --> 00:44:54.180 align:middle line:84%
of them in the control group
for them to be comparable.

00:44:54.180 --> 00:44:54.720 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, Aaron.

00:44:54.720 --> 00:44:56.678 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: There's one
question on this, though,

00:44:56.678 --> 00:44:59.790 align:middle line:84%
is, from the standpoint
of experimental design

00:44:59.790 --> 00:45:04.183 align:middle line:84%
and thinking ex ante,
on the right-hand side,

00:45:04.183 --> 00:45:05.850 align:middle line:84%
we're doing this
randomization before we

00:45:05.850 --> 00:45:08.017 align:middle line:84%
talk to any villagers about
their level of interest.

00:45:08.017 --> 00:45:12.090 align:middle line:84%
So there's a risk that we do
this treatment assignment,

00:45:12.090 --> 00:45:14.780 align:middle line:84%
and then we go, and there's
two villages that are actually

00:45:14.780 --> 00:45:16.140 align:middle line:90%
interested in taking that.

00:45:16.140 --> 00:45:17.070 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Which one,
the right-hand side?

00:45:17.070 --> 00:45:18.320 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: The right-hand side.

00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:21.660 align:middle line:84%
So that's just, I guess
separate from this issue

00:45:21.660 --> 00:45:23.040 align:middle line:90%
of who are never-takers.

00:45:23.040 --> 00:45:25.500 align:middle line:84%
I guess this falls into
the bucket of power,

00:45:25.500 --> 00:45:29.160 align:middle line:84%
that you're running the risk
that, based on how you've

00:45:29.160 --> 00:45:32.990 align:middle line:84%
constrained yourself from
the start of the experiment,

00:45:32.990 --> 00:45:33.490 align:middle line:90%
you might--

00:45:33.490 --> 00:45:35.570 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: You might
not have enough people.

00:45:35.570 --> 00:45:36.260 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

00:45:36.260 --> 00:45:36.915 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

00:45:36.915 --> 00:45:38.540 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Whereas
that's not an issue--

00:45:38.540 --> 00:45:39.090 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: That's also true.

00:45:39.090 --> 00:45:40.507 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: --on the
left-hand side.

00:45:40.507 --> 00:45:42.260 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah.

00:45:42.260 --> 00:45:43.490 align:middle line:90%
So is everyone agreed?

00:45:43.490 --> 00:45:44.990 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, [INAUDIBLE].

00:45:44.990 --> 00:45:48.110 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Just like
[INAUDIBLE] maybe

00:45:48.110 --> 00:45:52.278 align:middle line:84%
like in the
right-hand side, maybe

00:45:52.278 --> 00:45:54.320 align:middle line:84%
it makes sense because it
would be more expensive

00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.880 align:middle line:84%
and you're including people
that you shouldn't include.

00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:59.430 align:middle line:84%
But if you're doing
the left-hand side,

00:45:59.430 --> 00:46:02.430 align:middle line:84%
maybe you should be careful to
see how many people [INAUDIBLE]

00:46:02.430 --> 00:46:05.070 align:middle line:84%
because maybe giving
different [INAUDIBLE]

00:46:05.070 --> 00:46:07.865 align:middle line:84%
was only for people that were
interested in the [INAUDIBLE]..

00:46:07.865 --> 00:46:08.740 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: No, sorry.

00:46:08.740 --> 00:46:09.960 align:middle line:84%
I'm sorry, I don't understand
what you're saying.

00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:10.380 align:middle line:90%
So sorry.

00:46:10.380 --> 00:46:10.950 align:middle line:90%
Say it again.

00:46:10.950 --> 00:46:13.780 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I guess there's
no external validity.

00:46:13.780 --> 00:46:17.040 align:middle line:84%
And you have to be careful
with the first version

00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:19.590 align:middle line:84%
because maybe not enough
people would be interested.

00:46:19.590 --> 00:46:22.910 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: No, external
validity is the same.

00:46:22.910 --> 00:46:24.620 align:middle line:84%
So external validity
is identical here.

00:46:24.620 --> 00:46:25.970 align:middle line:84%
That's what I was saying,
you get the same LATE.

00:46:25.970 --> 00:46:28.560 align:middle line:84%
So the LATE may not-- going
back to your earlier point,

00:46:28.560 --> 00:46:30.500 align:middle line:84%
the LATE may not
be the LATE of what

00:46:30.500 --> 00:46:34.550 align:middle line:84%
would the LATE be if I was
able to persuade everyone

00:46:34.550 --> 00:46:35.360 align:middle line:90%
to do this program.

00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.490 align:middle line:84%
But LATE in the left-hand design
and LATE in the right-hand

00:46:37.490 --> 00:46:38.060 align:middle line:90%
are the same.

00:46:38.060 --> 00:46:39.602 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I think
Paolo's saying what

00:46:39.602 --> 00:46:42.350 align:middle line:84%
if just very few people in
the country are interested.

00:46:42.350 --> 00:46:44.722 align:middle line:84%
And then, at least you see
that not much is happening

00:46:44.722 --> 00:46:45.680 align:middle line:90%
in the right-hand side.

00:46:45.680 --> 00:46:48.260 align:middle line:84%
And then on the left-hand side,
oh, wow, in these four villages

00:46:48.260 --> 00:46:49.927 align:middle line:84%
that were interested,
something happens.

00:46:49.927 --> 00:46:50.427 align:middle line:90%
But then--

00:46:50.427 --> 00:46:52.177 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: No, no, but
you know that, too.

00:46:52.177 --> 00:46:53.690 align:middle line:84%
You have this
information over here.

00:46:53.690 --> 00:46:55.448 align:middle line:84%
You know what facts
people are interested.

00:46:55.448 --> 00:46:56.990 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I guess
I'm saying that you

00:46:56.990 --> 00:46:58.470 align:middle line:90%
have to take that into account.

00:46:58.470 --> 00:47:00.607 align:middle line:90%
And then just like [INAUDIBLE].

00:47:00.607 --> 00:47:02.940 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Yes, you certainly
have take it into account.

00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:03.710 align:middle line:90%
Absolutely.

00:47:03.710 --> 00:47:07.460 align:middle line:84%
But that piece of data you
get in the same, both designs.

00:47:07.460 --> 00:47:08.240 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:47:08.240 --> 00:47:09.950 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So on the
right-hand side,

00:47:09.950 --> 00:47:13.310 align:middle line:84%
if you were to then go to
all the control villages

00:47:13.310 --> 00:47:16.175 align:middle line:84%
and inform them, and then
be, like, are you interested,

00:47:16.175 --> 00:47:22.100 align:middle line:84%
and then just do nothing, do
these become the same again?

00:47:22.100 --> 00:47:24.830 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Well, the problem
is in reality, you can't.

00:47:24.830 --> 00:47:26.540 align:middle line:90%
It's not quite credible.

00:47:26.540 --> 00:47:29.090 align:middle line:84%
If you're going to inform them
and then be, like, oh, sorry,

00:47:29.090 --> 00:47:31.020 align:middle line:84%
you're not going to get
it, the question is--

00:47:31.020 --> 00:47:32.270 align:middle line:90%
you have to be able to--

00:47:32.270 --> 00:47:34.280 align:middle line:84%
you want to
basically inform them

00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.492 align:middle line:90%
in exactly an identical way.

00:47:36.492 --> 00:47:38.950 align:middle line:84%
So it's not the same to say,
are you interested, and if so,

00:47:38.950 --> 00:47:40.080 align:middle line:84%
we're going to do
the program today,

00:47:40.080 --> 00:47:42.000 align:middle line:84%
versus hypothetically speaking,
if we did this program,

00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.250 align:middle line:90%
would you be interested in it.

00:47:43.250 --> 00:47:44.800 align:middle line:90%
Those are different questions.

00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.740 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Well, couldn't
you ask the one--

00:47:47.740 --> 00:47:48.550 align:middle line:90%
I see.

00:47:48.550 --> 00:47:50.810 align:middle line:84%
And then you have to ask
the same question to the--

00:47:50.810 --> 00:47:54.960 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: And that gives
you the left-hand side.

00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.410 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Wait, if
you were asking people

00:47:58.410 --> 00:48:01.560 align:middle line:84%
on the right-hand
side of the left wing,

00:48:01.560 --> 00:48:04.260 align:middle line:84%
hypothetically, if we had
this program, would you

00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:09.660 align:middle line:84%
be interested, and then also
asking the right-hand side.

00:48:09.660 --> 00:48:13.540 align:middle line:90%
But it is the same thing.

00:48:13.540 --> 00:48:15.540 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah, but that
is the left-hand side.

00:48:15.540 --> 00:48:16.310 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Yes.

00:48:16.310 --> 00:48:18.522 align:middle line:84%
It's the same thing,
right, the [INAUDIBLE]

00:48:18.522 --> 00:48:21.090 align:middle line:84%
measuring the right
wing of the alternative.

00:48:21.090 --> 00:48:23.370 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: If you're doing
it exactly the same way,

00:48:23.370 --> 00:48:26.320 align:middle line:90%
then that's this design.

00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:27.870 align:middle line:90%
OK, so does everyone agree?

00:48:27.870 --> 00:48:30.360 align:middle line:84%
So they're both
valid internally.

00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:33.780 align:middle line:84%
They actually get
you the same LATE.

00:48:33.780 --> 00:48:37.670 align:middle line:90%
So which is better?

00:48:37.670 --> 00:48:41.482 align:middle line:84%
Are they equal or is
there a strict one

00:48:41.482 --> 00:48:42.440 align:middle line:90%
that's better or worse?

00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:44.470 align:middle line:90%
Someone else?

00:48:44.470 --> 00:48:45.070 align:middle line:90%
Somebody else?

00:48:45.070 --> 00:48:46.480 align:middle line:84%
Nobody else I
haven't heard from?

00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:47.230 align:middle line:90%
What do you think?

00:48:47.230 --> 00:48:51.520 align:middle line:90%


00:48:51.520 --> 00:48:52.020 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:48:52.020 --> 00:48:53.145 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I mean,
my intuition is

00:48:53.145 --> 00:48:54.895 align:middle line:84%
if we are estimating
the exact same thing,

00:48:54.895 --> 00:48:57.000 align:middle line:84%
we would rather
have less than IV.

00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:58.315 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Why?

00:48:58.315 --> 00:48:59.940 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: IV standard
errors are always

00:48:59.940 --> 00:49:02.600 align:middle line:84%
much larger because
they're fighting

00:49:02.600 --> 00:49:03.980 align:middle line:90%
two estimates by each other.

00:49:03.980 --> 00:49:05.900 align:middle line:90%
So like [INAUDIBLE].

00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:10.133 align:middle line:90%
So I don't have [INAUDIBLE].

00:49:10.133 --> 00:49:10.800 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah.

00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:12.830 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:49:12.830 --> 00:49:14.925 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I was in
[INAUDIBLE] power.

00:49:14.925 --> 00:49:15.550 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Yes.

00:49:15.550 --> 00:49:16.690 align:middle line:90%
So yes, you're right.

00:49:16.690 --> 00:49:19.810 align:middle line:84%
So yes, your power is
going to be greater

00:49:19.810 --> 00:49:21.460 align:middle line:90%
in this one and this one.

00:49:21.460 --> 00:49:28.340 align:middle line:84%
And one reasonable way
to think about your power

00:49:28.340 --> 00:49:31.850 align:middle line:90%
is that your power--

00:49:31.850 --> 00:49:33.770 align:middle line:84%
you can think about
your statistical power

00:49:33.770 --> 00:49:37.850 align:middle line:84%
as like the t-test
on the reduced form.

00:49:37.850 --> 00:49:40.010 align:middle line:90%
And the t-test on the reduced--

00:49:40.010 --> 00:49:41.600 align:middle line:84%
because in some
sense, both cases,

00:49:41.600 --> 00:49:43.100 align:middle line:84%
you're estimating
your reduced form.

00:49:43.100 --> 00:49:44.390 align:middle line:84%
And in the IV, you
take the reduced form

00:49:44.390 --> 00:49:45.320 align:middle line:84%
and divide it by the
first [INAUDIBLE]..

00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:46.580 align:middle line:84%
But in some sense,
your power is never

00:49:46.580 --> 00:49:48.377 align:middle line:84%
going to be better
than the reduced form.

00:49:48.377 --> 00:49:49.835 align:middle line:84%
Your statistical
precision is never

00:49:49.835 --> 00:49:51.508 align:middle line:90%
going to be better than your--

00:49:51.508 --> 00:49:54.050 align:middle line:84%
your t-stat is never going to
be better than the reduced form

00:49:54.050 --> 00:49:55.070 align:middle line:84%
t-stat because you're
taking that and then

00:49:55.070 --> 00:49:57.403 align:middle line:84%
dividing it by something
that's not perfectly estimated.

00:49:57.403 --> 00:50:05.590 align:middle line:84%
So which of these has a better
t-stat on the reduced form?

00:50:05.590 --> 00:50:12.410 align:middle line:84%
Well, here-- sorry, I probably
have to write this down.

00:50:12.410 --> 00:50:22.230 align:middle line:90%


00:50:22.230 --> 00:50:28.720 align:middle line:84%
OK, so on the right-hand
side, let's suppose

00:50:28.720 --> 00:50:31.570 align:middle line:84%
that fraction alpha
are interested.

00:50:31.570 --> 00:50:40.210 align:middle line:90%


00:50:40.210 --> 00:50:43.570 align:middle line:84%
And beta is the
treatment effect.

00:50:43.570 --> 00:50:48.860 align:middle line:90%


00:50:48.860 --> 00:50:50.260 align:middle line:90%
So what's my t-stat?

00:50:50.260 --> 00:50:51.985 align:middle line:90%
My t-stat is going to be--

00:50:51.985 --> 00:50:54.700 align:middle line:90%


00:50:54.700 --> 00:50:56.860 align:middle line:84%
for the right-hand side,
I don't care about this

00:50:56.860 --> 00:50:58.445 align:middle line:84%
because I'm only
restricting my sample

00:50:58.445 --> 00:51:00.047 align:middle line:90%
to people are interested.

00:51:00.047 --> 00:51:01.630 align:middle line:84%
Sorry, my t-state
is going to be rough

00:51:01.630 --> 00:51:06.400 align:middle line:84%
and N is the total sample,
total number of villages.

00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:09.440 align:middle line:90%


00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:10.480 align:middle line:90%
So what's my t-stat?

00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:16.870 align:middle line:84%
It's roughly going to be
proportional to beta divided

00:51:16.870 --> 00:51:22.090 align:middle line:84%
by alpha, the square
root of alpha times N.

00:51:22.090 --> 00:51:25.857 align:middle line:84%
So your standard error is
proportional to the-- so t-stat

00:51:25.857 --> 00:51:27.440 align:middle line:84%
is beta divided by
the standard error.

00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:29.500 align:middle line:84%
Standard error is proportional
to the square root

00:51:29.500 --> 00:51:31.640 align:middle line:90%
of the sample size.

00:51:31.640 --> 00:51:37.777 align:middle line:84%
So my sample size, I've reduced
by alpha because I had to--

00:51:37.777 --> 00:51:40.360 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE] my alpha because all
people who aren't interested,

00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:41.410 align:middle line:90%
I chucked them out.

00:51:41.410 --> 00:51:45.540 align:middle line:84%
So my reduced form t-stat
looks something like this.

00:51:45.540 --> 00:51:49.010 align:middle line:84%
Now, I'm sorry, this
is the left-hand side.

00:51:49.010 --> 00:51:52.390 align:middle line:84%
Now, on the right-hand
side version,

00:51:52.390 --> 00:51:56.170 align:middle line:84%
my t-stat is going to
be roughly equal to--

00:51:56.170 --> 00:51:59.260 align:middle line:84%
well, I got everybody in there,
but only a fraction alpha

00:51:59.260 --> 00:52:01.780 align:middle line:90%
of them have a treatment.

00:52:01.780 --> 00:52:05.200 align:middle line:84%
So it's roughly equal
to alpha times beta,

00:52:05.200 --> 00:52:08.065 align:middle line:90%
and I have the full sample.

00:52:08.065 --> 00:52:11.450 align:middle line:90%


00:52:11.450 --> 00:52:13.040 align:middle line:90%
So you can see that this one--

00:52:13.040 --> 00:52:18.275 align:middle line:90%


00:52:18.275 --> 00:52:19.490 align:middle line:90%
did I do this right?

00:52:19.490 --> 00:52:24.133 align:middle line:90%


00:52:24.133 --> 00:52:25.050 align:middle line:90%
I did something wrong.

00:52:25.050 --> 00:52:25.585 align:middle line:90%
Hold on.

00:52:25.585 --> 00:52:26.085 align:middle line:90%
No.

00:52:26.085 --> 00:52:28.690 align:middle line:90%


00:52:28.690 --> 00:52:30.340 align:middle line:84%
My standard error
is proportional to 1

00:52:30.340 --> 00:52:32.950 align:middle line:84%
over the square root of
the sample size, sorry.

00:52:32.950 --> 00:52:36.500 align:middle line:84%
Bigger sample size means
a smaller standard error.

00:52:36.500 --> 00:52:39.210 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, there we go.

00:52:39.210 --> 00:52:47.110 align:middle line:90%


00:52:47.110 --> 00:52:49.590 align:middle line:90%
Sorry, that's correct.

00:52:49.590 --> 00:52:51.210 align:middle line:90%
So what is this?

00:52:51.210 --> 00:52:55.650 align:middle line:84%
This is proportional
to root alpha

00:52:55.650 --> 00:53:06.690 align:middle line:84%
beta times root N. And this
one is proportional to alpha

00:53:06.690 --> 00:53:13.530 align:middle line:84%
beta times the square root
of N. So the t-stat is going

00:53:13.530 --> 00:53:17.550 align:middle line:84%
to be much bigger on the
left-hand version rather

00:53:17.550 --> 00:53:19.620 align:middle line:90%
than the right-hand version.

00:53:19.620 --> 00:53:20.910 align:middle line:90%
And why?

00:53:20.910 --> 00:53:25.170 align:middle line:84%
It's because of the question of,
do I want to reduce my power?

00:53:25.170 --> 00:53:26.880 align:middle line:84%
I have the same kind
of alpha problem,

00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:29.547 align:middle line:84%
and do I want to deal with it by
just having a larger standard--

00:53:29.547 --> 00:53:32.460 align:middle line:84%
by reducing the first stage
or by reducing with or dealing

00:53:32.460 --> 00:53:33.750 align:middle line:90%
with more sample size?

00:53:33.750 --> 00:53:38.220 align:middle line:84%
And the answer is, because of
this square root of N thing,

00:53:38.220 --> 00:53:40.050 align:middle line:84%
your power is going
to be left better

00:53:40.050 --> 00:53:43.490 align:middle line:84%
if you can deal with it
upfront, rather than just

00:53:43.490 --> 00:53:44.490 align:middle line:90%
you have to estimate it.

00:53:44.490 --> 00:53:47.040 align:middle line:90%


00:53:47.040 --> 00:53:50.830 align:middle line:90%
Is that clear?

00:53:50.830 --> 00:53:51.330 align:middle line:90%
No?

00:53:51.330 --> 00:53:52.140 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE], you look confused.

00:53:52.140 --> 00:53:52.770 align:middle line:90%
No?

00:53:52.770 --> 00:53:54.460 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Yeah,
sorry, why is that?

00:53:54.460 --> 00:53:57.840 align:middle line:84%
Why are we comparing
alpha N to N?

00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.757 align:middle line:84%
Wouldn't we have the
same sample size?

00:54:00.757 --> 00:54:01.340 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: No.

00:54:01.340 --> 00:54:04.790 align:middle line:84%
So in this example,
remember I said,

00:54:04.790 --> 00:54:07.170 align:middle line:84%
suppose we had 1,000
villages over here.

00:54:07.170 --> 00:54:08.920 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: OK, it's not
like 1,000 villages

00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:10.570 align:middle line:90%
to work with in the experiment.

00:54:10.570 --> 00:54:13.480 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: I have 1,000 villages
total that I can work with.

00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:17.155 align:middle line:84%
And my question is, do I want
to screen them out ex ante

00:54:17.155 --> 00:54:18.280 align:middle line:90%
or screen them out ex post?

00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:20.830 align:middle line:84%
Same 1,000 villages,
and my point

00:54:20.830 --> 00:54:23.980 align:middle line:84%
is that it's even
better, by the way, if I

00:54:23.980 --> 00:54:26.420 align:middle line:90%
have 1,000 villages to survey.

00:54:26.420 --> 00:54:29.372 align:middle line:84%
That's way, way
better over here.

00:54:29.372 --> 00:54:30.830 align:middle line:84%
Because I don't
even have to-- then

00:54:30.830 --> 00:54:36.000 align:middle line:84%
it's just like beta
times root 1,000.

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.380 align:middle line:84%
Over here, it's
beta times whatever,

00:54:39.380 --> 00:54:44.650 align:middle line:84%
alpha root 1,000 or whatever,
or alpha beta times root 1,000.

00:54:44.650 --> 00:54:45.510 align:middle line:90%
So it's way better.

00:54:45.510 --> 00:54:47.135 align:middle line:84%
If I can [INAUDIBLE],,
it's way better.

00:54:47.135 --> 00:54:49.140 align:middle line:84%
I was making a harder
case for myself,

00:54:49.140 --> 00:54:51.390 align:middle line:84%
where I only have a fixed
number of villages up front.

00:54:51.390 --> 00:54:52.927 align:middle line:84%
And my question
is-- and so where

00:54:52.927 --> 00:54:55.260 align:middle line:84%
there's a cost on the left-hand
side of having a smaller

00:54:55.260 --> 00:54:55.968 align:middle line:90%
sample over here.

00:54:55.968 --> 00:55:00.000 align:middle line:84%
And I'm saying, even
then, even with a smaller

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.010 align:middle line:84%
sample, a smaller
amount of data,

00:55:02.010 --> 00:55:05.200 align:middle line:84%
I still want the
left-hand design.

00:55:05.200 --> 00:55:05.700 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:55:05.700 --> 00:55:07.400 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Can this
intuitively be

00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.420 align:middle line:84%
thought of as on
the right-hand side,

00:55:09.420 --> 00:55:14.233 align:middle line:84%
you are meaning
to estimate alpha,

00:55:14.233 --> 00:55:15.650 align:middle line:84%
whereas on the
left-hand side, you

00:55:15.650 --> 00:55:16.900 align:middle line:90%
don't need to estimate alpha?

00:55:16.900 --> 00:55:18.650 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: No, I think
it's not just that.

00:55:18.650 --> 00:55:20.645 align:middle line:90%
No, because I know alpha.

00:55:20.645 --> 00:55:23.950 align:middle line:90%


00:55:23.950 --> 00:55:24.610 align:middle line:90%
It's not that.

00:55:24.610 --> 00:55:25.163 align:middle line:90%
The problem--

00:55:25.163 --> 00:55:26.080 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: You do know?

00:55:26.080 --> 00:55:28.340 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah, because
[INAUDIBLE] treatment.

00:55:28.340 --> 00:55:29.445 align:middle line:90%
So alpha just--

00:55:29.445 --> 00:55:30.820 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: On the
right-hand side?

00:55:30.820 --> 00:55:32.450 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: No, well, it's
statistically the same.

00:55:32.450 --> 00:55:32.950 align:middle line:90%
So--

00:55:32.950 --> 00:55:34.960 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: I see, I see.

00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:35.890 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE], right?

00:55:35.890 --> 00:55:38.057 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah, but I don't
think that's the issue.

00:55:38.057 --> 00:55:39.220 align:middle line:90%
I think the issue is--

00:55:39.220 --> 00:55:42.020 align:middle line:84%
I think really where this comes
from is on the right-hand side,

00:55:42.020 --> 00:55:43.673 align:middle line:84%
I don't know who
the compliers are

00:55:43.673 --> 00:55:45.340 align:middle line:84%
and who the never-takers
are, and I have

00:55:45.340 --> 00:55:46.660 align:middle line:90%
to lump them all in together.

00:55:46.660 --> 00:55:48.220 align:middle line:84%
Whereas on the
left-hand side, I know

00:55:48.220 --> 00:55:49.150 align:middle line:84%
who the never-takers
are for sure,

00:55:49.150 --> 00:55:51.127 align:middle line:84%
and I just get rid of
them for my sample.

00:55:51.127 --> 00:55:52.960 align:middle line:84%
And that's where I think
the real efficiency

00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:53.877 align:middle line:90%
gains are coming from.

00:55:53.877 --> 00:55:56.740 align:middle line:90%


00:55:56.740 --> 00:55:59.330 align:middle line:90%
OK, Clear?

00:55:59.330 --> 00:56:05.550 align:middle line:84%
So that's why it is always
a good idea, if you're ever

00:56:05.550 --> 00:56:08.220 align:middle line:84%
doing this, to do
as much screening

00:56:08.220 --> 00:56:11.610 align:middle line:84%
as you can before
the randomization

00:56:11.610 --> 00:56:17.520 align:middle line:84%
so that your first stage
conditional on randomizing

00:56:17.520 --> 00:56:19.140 align:middle line:84%
people to treatment
and control--

00:56:19.140 --> 00:56:21.750 align:middle line:84%
your first stage is as
close to 1 as possible.

00:56:21.750 --> 00:56:26.440 align:middle line:84%
It's always better to do
that screening ex ante,

00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:28.063 align:middle line:90%
or in general, it is better.

00:56:28.063 --> 00:56:29.980 align:middle line:84%
Clearly, I'm talking a
lot because my computer

00:56:29.980 --> 00:56:31.540 align:middle line:90%
keeps turning off.

00:56:31.540 --> 00:56:35.900 align:middle line:84%
So my final question
that I wanted to ask,

00:56:35.900 --> 00:56:42.232 align:middle line:84%
and as I said, writing exam
questions that people seem

00:56:42.232 --> 00:56:43.690 align:middle line:84%
confused about is
a good diagnostic

00:56:43.690 --> 00:56:46.120 align:middle line:84%
for things that should
be taught in lecture.

00:56:46.120 --> 00:56:47.230 align:middle line:90%
I try to avoid doing that.

00:56:47.230 --> 00:56:49.750 align:middle line:84%
But every once in
a while it happens.

00:56:49.750 --> 00:56:52.027 align:middle line:84%
My final question
is, is there a reason

00:56:52.027 --> 00:56:53.860 align:middle line:84%
that you would prefer
the right-hand design?

00:56:53.860 --> 00:56:55.443 align:middle line:84%
And I will try to
get my computer back

00:56:55.443 --> 00:56:58.192 align:middle line:84%
so it can show you the
right-hand design in a second.

00:56:58.192 --> 00:57:00.400 align:middle line:84%
So I just told you all the
reasons the left-hand side

00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.170 align:middle line:84%
design is better
because it gets you

00:57:02.170 --> 00:57:03.970 align:middle line:84%
the same internal validity,
the same external validity,

00:57:03.970 --> 00:57:04.960 align:middle line:90%
but much better power.

00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:07.090 align:middle line:84%
Is there a reason you
prefer the left-hand design?

00:57:07.090 --> 00:57:09.275 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, Paolo, what do you think?

00:57:09.275 --> 00:57:10.150 align:middle line:90%
No, prefer the right.

00:57:10.150 --> 00:57:11.380 align:middle line:84%
Is there a reason
you prefer the right?

00:57:11.380 --> 00:57:12.130 align:middle line:90%
Sorry.

00:57:12.130 --> 00:57:14.170 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: You do half
as much screening

00:57:14.170 --> 00:57:16.780 align:middle line:84%
and so your cost will
basically be half.

00:57:16.780 --> 00:57:17.950 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah, exactly.

00:57:17.950 --> 00:57:20.410 align:middle line:84%
So if it turns out
that the screening

00:57:20.410 --> 00:57:25.020 align:middle line:84%
step is super duper
expensive, then you

00:57:25.020 --> 00:57:28.070 align:middle line:90%
might want the left-hand side.

00:57:28.070 --> 00:57:32.510 align:middle line:84%
Because here on the left,
I've got to screen everybody.

00:57:32.510 --> 00:57:35.640 align:middle line:84%
And on the right, I only
screen the treatment group.

00:57:35.640 --> 00:57:38.578 align:middle line:84%
So if it turns out
that that step is-- so

00:57:38.578 --> 00:57:41.120 align:middle line:84%
the other thing you have to do
in practicing different design

00:57:41.120 --> 00:57:43.120 align:middle line:84%
is you have different
costs at different levels.

00:57:43.120 --> 00:57:48.170 align:middle line:84%
So there's a screening cost and
there's a data collection cost.

00:57:48.170 --> 00:57:52.250 align:middle line:84%
And sometimes, your
data collection

00:57:52.250 --> 00:57:54.250 align:middle line:84%
is really expensive, like
I'm going door to door

00:57:54.250 --> 00:57:55.125 align:middle line:90%
and running a survey.

00:57:55.125 --> 00:57:56.160 align:middle line:90%
That's really expensive.

00:57:56.160 --> 00:57:59.340 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes, your data
collection is free,

00:57:59.340 --> 00:58:02.130 align:middle line:84%
like if you're getting admin
data and you just get all of it

00:58:02.130 --> 00:58:02.940 align:middle line:90%
for free.

00:58:02.940 --> 00:58:03.900 align:middle line:90%
There's no cost there.

00:58:03.900 --> 00:58:05.858 align:middle line:84%
And actually, maybe
screening people is costly.

00:58:05.858 --> 00:58:12.202 align:middle line:84%
So in practice, if the total
number N here is maybe large,

00:58:12.202 --> 00:58:14.160 align:middle line:84%
but these different steps
have different costs,

00:58:14.160 --> 00:58:16.202 align:middle line:84%
that you have to think
through the costs in this.

00:58:16.202 --> 00:58:19.580 align:middle line:84%
And that's, I think, the one
caveat I would make to this.

00:58:19.580 --> 00:58:20.240 align:middle line:90%
Clear?

00:58:20.240 --> 00:58:21.930 align:middle line:90%
Questions?

00:58:21.930 --> 00:58:23.620 align:middle line:84%
OK, all right, so
that's mostly what

00:58:23.620 --> 00:58:25.370 align:middle line:84%
I want to say about
the experiment design.

00:58:25.370 --> 00:58:29.660 align:middle line:84%
I thought this
was a nice example

00:58:29.660 --> 00:58:34.670 align:middle line:84%
OK, back to land reform, back to
the land titling, substantive.

00:58:34.670 --> 00:58:35.705 align:middle line:90%
So what do they show?

00:58:35.705 --> 00:58:38.580 align:middle line:90%


00:58:38.580 --> 00:58:40.580 align:middle line:84%
So the first stage-- so
even here, by the way,

00:58:40.580 --> 00:58:43.880 align:middle line:90%
their first stage is not--

00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:51.452 align:middle line:84%
or the impact on clear
borders or whatever is not 1.

00:58:51.452 --> 00:58:52.910 align:middle line:84%
So going through
this whole process

00:58:52.910 --> 00:58:55.430 align:middle line:84%
only increases it by 1/3
or whatever, or by 1/4.

00:58:55.430 --> 00:58:55.960 align:middle line:90%
That's fine.

00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:57.380 align:middle line:90%
It's whatever.

00:58:57.380 --> 00:59:00.890 align:middle line:84%
But then, they actually
do look like they

00:59:00.890 --> 00:59:03.680 align:middle line:84%
find some impacts
on things on tree

00:59:03.680 --> 00:59:06.050 align:middle line:90%
planting and perennial crops.

00:59:06.050 --> 00:59:10.100 align:middle line:84%
And the idea is these are things
with very long time horizons.

00:59:10.100 --> 00:59:12.560 align:middle line:90%
So I plant a tree.

00:59:12.560 --> 00:59:15.350 align:middle line:84%
I need to know that A, I'm going
to still own this land when

00:59:15.350 --> 00:59:18.597 align:middle line:84%
it's time to collect the crops
from the tree, and B, no one

00:59:18.597 --> 00:59:20.180 align:middle line:84%
is going to come and
cut down my tree.

00:59:20.180 --> 00:59:23.150 align:middle line:84%
And so that requires
pretty good property rights

00:59:23.150 --> 00:59:23.900 align:middle line:90%
and clear borders.

00:59:23.900 --> 00:59:26.480 align:middle line:90%
And so same thing with--

00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:28.320 align:middle line:84%
perennial crops come
back year after year.

00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:34.240 align:middle line:84%
So these things suggest that the
clear property rights actually

00:59:34.240 --> 00:59:37.960 align:middle line:84%
do change my time horizon, and
that they lead people to take

00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:39.280 align:middle line:90%
these longer term investments.

00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:43.030 align:middle line:84%
And so that shows one
type of inefficiency

00:59:43.030 --> 00:59:46.740 align:middle line:90%
from having unclear borders.

00:59:46.740 --> 00:59:48.920 align:middle line:90%
OK, clear?

00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:51.500 align:middle line:90%
Questions?

00:59:51.500 --> 00:59:54.220 align:middle line:90%
All right.

00:59:54.220 --> 00:59:57.930 align:middle line:84%
So that was number one,
substantively [INAUDIBLE]..

00:59:57.930 --> 01:00:00.522 align:middle line:84%
This was investment increases
with good property rights

01:00:00.522 --> 01:00:01.980 align:middle line:84%
because of this
time horizon point.

01:00:01.980 --> 01:00:04.903 align:middle line:84%
Investments are I pay a
fixed cost now, hopefully

01:00:04.903 --> 01:00:05.820 align:middle line:90%
returns in the future.

01:00:05.820 --> 01:00:08.130 align:middle line:84%
If I own the thing, I'm going
to capture those returns.

01:00:08.130 --> 01:00:09.900 align:middle line:84%
But even if I sell it, I
still capture the returns

01:00:09.900 --> 01:00:10.650 align:middle line:90%
in the sale price.

01:00:10.650 --> 01:00:12.317 align:middle line:84%
So I make these longer
term investments.

01:00:12.317 --> 01:00:13.610 align:middle line:90%
Great.

01:00:13.610 --> 01:00:20.270 align:middle line:84%
Second question is, do I have to
do inefficient actions in order

01:00:20.270 --> 01:00:24.470 align:middle line:84%
to protect my property rights
if they are less clear?

01:00:24.470 --> 01:00:26.350 align:middle line:84%
So if my property
rights are bad,

01:00:26.350 --> 01:00:28.000 align:middle line:84%
maybe I have to do
things inefficiently

01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.520 align:middle line:84%
to protect the property rights
or to give me better property

01:00:30.520 --> 01:00:33.650 align:middle line:84%
rights, I can not take
those inefficient actions.

01:00:33.650 --> 01:00:35.930 align:middle line:90%
So here are some examples.

01:00:35.930 --> 01:00:39.840 align:middle line:84%
So this is one from Ghana,
where people have weak property

01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:41.250 align:middle line:90%
rights on plots.

01:00:41.250 --> 01:00:44.683 align:middle line:84%
There are competing claims
to the land, whatever,

01:00:44.683 --> 01:00:46.350 align:middle line:84%
there's a lineage
thing and the village.

01:00:46.350 --> 01:00:48.923 align:middle line:84%
And it's never quite clear,
as they argue in the paper,

01:00:48.923 --> 01:00:51.090 align:middle line:84%
whether you have the right
to farm this land or not.

01:00:51.090 --> 01:00:52.290 align:middle line:90%
It's unclear.

01:00:52.290 --> 01:00:57.548 align:middle line:84%
And in particular--
so as you may know,

01:00:57.548 --> 01:00:59.180 align:middle line:84%
you want to leave
your land fallow

01:00:59.180 --> 01:01:02.660 align:middle line:84%
or not farm it every so
many years to allow the land

01:01:02.660 --> 01:01:04.460 align:middle line:90%
to regenerate itself.

01:01:04.460 --> 01:01:08.157 align:middle line:84%
But the problem is, if I'm
not actively farming the land,

01:01:08.157 --> 01:01:09.740 align:middle line:84%
someone else may
say, well, that land,

01:01:09.740 --> 01:01:10.580 align:middle line:90%
you're not using that land.

01:01:10.580 --> 01:01:11.747 align:middle line:90%
I'm going to take that land.

01:01:11.747 --> 01:01:15.650 align:middle line:84%
And so in this context, the
idea is that fallowing your land

01:01:15.650 --> 01:01:19.940 align:middle line:84%
is a risky thing to do if you
have insecure property rights.

01:01:19.940 --> 01:01:25.460 align:middle line:84%
And so the idea here is,
what they want to say,

01:01:25.460 --> 01:01:30.420 align:middle line:84%
is people who have power in this
relationship, or in this area.

01:01:30.420 --> 01:01:32.880 align:middle line:84%
They are the ones who are less
worried about their property

01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:33.060 align:middle line:90%
rights.

01:01:33.060 --> 01:01:34.310 align:middle line:90%
It's not a land titling paper.

01:01:34.310 --> 01:01:37.560 align:middle line:84%
It just says in
this event of who--

01:01:37.560 --> 01:01:39.612 align:middle line:84%
if I'm really powerful
in the village,

01:01:39.612 --> 01:01:41.070 align:middle line:84%
I'm not really
worried you're going

01:01:41.070 --> 01:01:43.528 align:middle line:84%
to take my land because I can
boot you out if you did that.

01:01:43.528 --> 01:01:46.590 align:middle line:84%
But if I'm not very powerful,
then that's a real risk for me.

01:01:46.590 --> 01:01:51.490 align:middle line:84%
And what they argue is that
the people who are not powerful

01:01:51.490 --> 01:01:55.735 align:middle line:84%
don't fallow their land
as much for this reason.

01:01:55.735 --> 01:01:57.235 align:middle line:84%
So that's the
argument of the paper.

01:01:57.235 --> 01:01:59.920 align:middle line:90%


01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:08.170 align:middle line:84%
So they show, for example,
that office holders

01:02:08.170 --> 01:02:09.040 align:middle line:90%
fallow their land.

01:02:09.040 --> 01:02:14.460 align:middle line:84%
Inherited people
fallow their land.

01:02:14.460 --> 01:02:17.320 align:middle line:84%
And so I'm not going
to go through that

01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:18.130 align:middle line:90%
in a lot of detail.

01:02:18.130 --> 01:02:19.330 align:middle line:84%
I think the question
you want to think about

01:02:19.330 --> 01:02:20.140 align:middle line:84%
if you're thinking
about this paper

01:02:20.140 --> 01:02:21.370 align:middle line:84%
is, what is this
correlated with?

01:02:21.370 --> 01:02:22.390 align:middle line:84%
And what are the
[INAUDIBLE] variables?

01:02:22.390 --> 01:02:24.010 align:middle line:90%
And let me not go into that.

01:02:24.010 --> 01:02:25.885 align:middle line:84%
If you're interested,
you can read the paper.

01:02:25.885 --> 01:02:28.180 align:middle line:84%
But the point is, this
is one potential example

01:02:28.180 --> 01:02:32.430 align:middle line:84%
of a kind of inefficient
action people could take.

01:02:32.430 --> 01:02:34.320 align:middle line:84%
Another one that I
want to talk about

01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:40.090 align:middle line:84%
in a little bit more detail is
this paper by Field in Peru.

01:02:40.090 --> 01:02:42.500 align:middle line:90%
This is a land titling paper.

01:02:42.500 --> 01:02:45.820 align:middle line:84%
So in this period,
basically, they rapidly

01:02:45.820 --> 01:02:47.810 align:middle line:90%
start issuing titles.

01:02:47.810 --> 01:02:52.370 align:middle line:84%
And these are actually urban,
going to be urban households.

01:02:52.370 --> 01:02:55.060 align:middle line:84%
So you can think of people
in kind of less formal areas,

01:02:55.060 --> 01:02:56.810 align:middle line:84%
maybe in slum areas,
who don't really have

01:02:56.810 --> 01:02:57.770 align:middle line:90%
clear title over their lands.

01:02:57.770 --> 01:03:00.062 align:middle line:84%
They're going to go through
and title all these places.

01:03:00.062 --> 01:03:03.800 align:middle line:84%
And they want to say, does just
the act of getting that title

01:03:03.800 --> 01:03:05.480 align:middle line:84%
and having that
clear property rights

01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.840 align:middle line:84%
mean that you no longer have
to stick around the house

01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:10.405 align:middle line:90%
to protect your house?

01:03:10.405 --> 01:03:11.405 align:middle line:90%
That's kind of the idea.

01:03:11.405 --> 01:03:14.510 align:middle line:90%


01:03:14.510 --> 01:03:18.100 align:middle line:84%
And it's going to be a
different diff, basically.

01:03:18.100 --> 01:03:19.630 align:middle line:90%
So in this paper--

01:03:19.630 --> 01:03:23.280 align:middle line:90%


01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:31.550 align:middle line:84%
it's basically like areas that
get the title-- diff in diff.

01:03:31.550 --> 01:03:33.975 align:middle line:84%
Areas get the titling
program versus areas

01:03:33.975 --> 01:03:36.350 align:middle line:84%
that don't get the titling
program or haven't had it yet,

01:03:36.350 --> 01:03:37.970 align:middle line:84%
and people who had
titles to begin

01:03:37.970 --> 01:03:40.190 align:middle line:84%
with who shouldn't be
affected versus the ones who

01:03:40.190 --> 01:03:42.120 align:middle line:90%
were untitled to begin with.

01:03:42.120 --> 01:03:43.730 align:middle line:84%
So that's kind of
the diff in diff.

01:03:43.730 --> 01:03:47.480 align:middle line:84%
So lo and behold,
the titling program

01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:51.980 align:middle line:84%
gives you a title,
probability 0.78.

01:03:51.980 --> 01:03:55.710 align:middle line:84%
That says the program
kind of worked.

01:03:55.710 --> 01:04:02.677 align:middle line:84%
And it reduces your risk of
eviction or property invasion

01:04:02.677 --> 01:04:04.510 align:middle line:84%
substantially, at least
your perceived risk.

01:04:04.510 --> 01:04:07.260 align:middle line:84%
So it looks like people are
updating about their risks

01:04:07.260 --> 01:04:10.740 align:middle line:90%
based on titles, and so forth.

01:04:10.740 --> 01:04:11.880 align:middle line:90%
Or do I consider it secure?

01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:12.490 align:middle line:90%
That goes up.

01:04:12.490 --> 01:04:13.865 align:middle line:84%
So in general, it
seems like this

01:04:13.865 --> 01:04:15.990 align:middle line:84%
is changing people's
security about their houses.

01:04:15.990 --> 01:04:19.050 align:middle line:84%
And the question is, what does
this do to their labor market

01:04:19.050 --> 01:04:20.040 align:middle line:90%
outcomes?

01:04:20.040 --> 01:04:22.470 align:middle line:84%
And in particular, what
you can see is they--

01:04:22.470 --> 01:04:24.060 align:middle line:84%
so what happens
is they basically

01:04:24.060 --> 01:04:27.780 align:middle line:84%
they end up more
in the labor force.

01:04:27.780 --> 01:04:29.940 align:middle line:84%
But I think what's more
interesting is why.

01:04:29.940 --> 01:04:32.988 align:middle line:84%
And in particular,
these kind of things

01:04:32.988 --> 01:04:35.280 align:middle line:84%
are, I think, actually, to
me, the two most interesting

01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:35.780 align:middle line:90%
results.

01:04:35.780 --> 01:04:40.050 align:middle line:84%
They're am I using my residence
for my economic activity?

01:04:40.050 --> 01:04:42.450 align:middle line:84%
Do I kind of have
to work from home

01:04:42.450 --> 01:04:45.210 align:middle line:84%
because I need to be home
to protect the house?

01:04:45.210 --> 01:04:47.280 align:middle line:90%
That goes down with titling.

01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:50.040 align:middle line:84%
And do people have really
long commutes or are

01:04:50.040 --> 01:04:52.860 align:middle line:84%
they kind of going
really far away for work?

01:04:52.860 --> 01:04:54.480 align:middle line:90%
That actually goes up.

01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:56.730 align:middle line:84%
These are in urban states
where people aren't actually

01:04:56.730 --> 01:04:57.630 align:middle line:90%
selling their land.

01:04:57.630 --> 01:05:00.480 align:middle line:84%
And this is not a case where
the title let me sell the house

01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:01.650 align:middle line:90%
and move somewhere else.

01:05:01.650 --> 01:05:03.897 align:middle line:84%
What this case is
doing is saying,

01:05:03.897 --> 01:05:05.730 align:middle line:84%
there are good opportunities
really far away

01:05:05.730 --> 01:05:10.590 align:middle line:84%
in this big metro area, but I
have to leave my house alone

01:05:10.590 --> 01:05:12.270 align:middle line:84%
for the day and be
confident it's going

01:05:12.270 --> 01:05:13.560 align:middle line:90%
to be there when I come back.

01:05:13.560 --> 01:05:17.070 align:middle line:84%
And they show that that
goes up with better titles.

01:05:17.070 --> 01:05:18.628 align:middle line:84%
And so the implication
of that, also,

01:05:18.628 --> 01:05:20.670 align:middle line:84%
is that the titling was
causing an inefficiency--

01:05:20.670 --> 01:05:23.070 align:middle line:84%
the lack of titling was
causing inefficiency

01:05:23.070 --> 01:05:24.240 align:middle line:90%
because people weren't able.

01:05:24.240 --> 01:05:26.282 align:middle line:84%
These were jobs they
clearly prefer, might reveal

01:05:26.282 --> 01:05:29.810 align:middle line:84%
a preference, but weren't able
to do because they were worried

01:05:29.810 --> 01:05:31.060 align:middle line:90%
about protecting their houses.

01:05:31.060 --> 01:05:31.560 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:05:31.560 --> 01:05:36.850 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] we
studied land [INAUDIBLE]..

01:05:36.850 --> 01:05:39.612 align:middle line:84%
Is [INAUDIBLE] global data
very critical to this kind

01:05:39.612 --> 01:05:41.338 align:middle line:90%
of thing [INAUDIBLE]?

01:05:41.338 --> 01:05:45.050 align:middle line:90%


01:05:45.050 --> 01:05:47.240 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah, so
it's a power question.

01:05:47.240 --> 01:05:52.357 align:middle line:84%
So could you run-- suppose
this thing was randomized

01:05:52.357 --> 01:05:54.440 align:middle line:84%
so we didn't have to worry
about pre-trends or any

01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:58.430 align:middle line:84%
of that stuff, so we just had
titled areas, non-titled areas.

01:05:58.430 --> 01:06:00.783 align:middle line:84%
If you had enough of
them, you could just

01:06:00.783 --> 01:06:03.200 align:middle line:84%
compare in general, what happens
in the titled areas, what

01:06:03.200 --> 01:06:04.533 align:middle line:90%
happens in the non-titled areas.

01:06:04.533 --> 01:06:09.228 align:middle line:90%


01:06:09.228 --> 01:06:09.770 align:middle line:90%
I'm thinking.

01:06:09.770 --> 01:06:12.920 align:middle line:90%


01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:14.660 align:middle line:84%
Actually, the ideal
thing, I think,

01:06:14.660 --> 01:06:18.770 align:middle line:84%
would be to say, either at
the house level or the person

01:06:18.770 --> 01:06:22.550 align:middle line:84%
level, and the place where
it's a little complicated

01:06:22.550 --> 01:06:23.803 align:middle line:90%
is if you have--

01:06:23.803 --> 01:06:25.220 align:middle line:84%
so you either want
to track what's

01:06:25.220 --> 01:06:27.230 align:middle line:84%
happening to houses
as kind of a unit,

01:06:27.230 --> 01:06:29.510 align:middle line:84%
or what's happening to
people kind of as a unit.

01:06:29.510 --> 01:06:33.450 align:middle line:84%
What you might not want to do
is track people in location.

01:06:33.450 --> 01:06:36.500 align:middle line:84%
So you might not want to kind
of do a cross-sectional ex post

01:06:36.500 --> 01:06:38.960 align:middle line:84%
interview of who happens to
be in that house at the time

01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:41.210 align:middle line:84%
because that could be--
because people could swap back

01:06:41.210 --> 01:06:41.990 align:middle line:90%
and forth between the places.

01:06:41.990 --> 01:06:43.430 align:middle line:90%
So you see what I'm saying?

01:06:43.430 --> 01:06:45.270 align:middle line:84%
So I think what you
really want to do is--

01:06:45.270 --> 01:06:47.570 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

01:06:47.570 --> 01:06:50.390 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Yeah, I mean, it's
a thing, like what happens--

01:06:50.390 --> 01:06:53.180 align:middle line:84%
you're asking questions
about the land.

01:06:53.180 --> 01:06:56.675 align:middle line:84%
And that's-- yes, I mean, with
the caveat the whole city is

01:06:56.675 --> 01:06:58.050 align:middle line:84%
operating in
general equilibrium.

01:06:58.050 --> 01:07:00.920 align:middle line:84%
So an even better case is if
you have isolated cities that

01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:02.310 align:middle line:90%
are separate from each other.

01:07:02.310 --> 01:07:05.345 align:middle line:84%
So if you're in a world
where the city is in--

01:07:05.345 --> 01:07:07.850 align:middle line:90%


01:07:07.850 --> 01:07:11.490 align:middle line:84%
so for people, I think you're
in good shape, ex ante people

01:07:11.490 --> 01:07:15.050 align:middle line:84%
tracking them over
time, that's fine.

01:07:15.050 --> 01:07:19.455 align:middle line:84%
If the-- no, I guess if
the city is in equilibrium,

01:07:19.455 --> 01:07:20.580 align:middle line:90%
that's fine, too, actually.

01:07:20.580 --> 01:07:23.132 align:middle line:84%
You're going to
get what is the--

01:07:23.132 --> 01:07:25.090 align:middle line:84%
I think, the city actually,
that's probably OK.

01:07:25.090 --> 01:07:26.770 align:middle line:84%
Because in the pre-period
where they're not titled,

01:07:26.770 --> 01:07:28.687 align:middle line:84%
you're going to get--
you're going to read off

01:07:28.687 --> 01:07:31.760 align:middle line:84%
what is the difference
of the marginal return

01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:33.010 align:middle line:90%
to this property being titled.

01:07:33.010 --> 01:07:33.970 align:middle line:90%
So that's still valid.

01:07:33.970 --> 01:07:37.895 align:middle line:84%
But yes, you do, I think,
want to think through.

01:07:37.895 --> 01:07:39.520 align:middle line:84%
If you're asking
equilibrium questions,

01:07:39.520 --> 01:07:42.310 align:middle line:84%
what are the
equilibrium [INAUDIBLE]??

01:07:42.310 --> 01:07:45.093 align:middle line:90%


01:07:45.093 --> 01:07:45.760 align:middle line:90%
Other questions?

01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:46.305 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:07:46.305 --> 01:07:47.680 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: In this
kind of things,

01:07:47.680 --> 01:07:49.810 align:middle line:84%
why don't you see
more [INAUDIBLE]

01:07:49.810 --> 01:07:51.045 align:middle line:90%
insurance structures?

01:07:51.045 --> 01:07:51.920 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: More what?

01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:53.295 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: More
insurance company,

01:07:53.295 --> 01:07:56.180 align:middle line:84%
maybe pricing, maybe provided
by the powerful individuals

01:07:56.180 --> 01:07:56.680 align:middle line:90%
to provide--

01:07:56.680 --> 01:07:57.555 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: Insurance.

01:07:57.555 --> 01:07:59.940 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Yeah.

01:07:59.940 --> 01:08:01.447 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE] if
you'll go away, I'll

01:08:01.447 --> 01:08:03.530 align:middle line:84%
guarantee you that no one's
going to take over it.

01:08:03.530 --> 01:08:06.337 align:middle line:84%
And if they do, I'll give
you some money for it.

01:08:06.337 --> 01:08:07.670 align:middle line:90%
BEN OLKEN: It's a good question.

01:08:07.670 --> 01:08:09.260 align:middle line:84%
So that's actually
really interesting.

01:08:09.260 --> 01:08:10.750 align:middle line:90%
So I don't know.

01:08:10.750 --> 01:08:13.540 align:middle line:84%
I mean, and you do hear
about protection payments,

01:08:13.540 --> 01:08:17.262 align:middle line:90%
for example, by informal--

01:08:17.262 --> 01:08:20.800 align:middle line:84%
often, they end up being
by gangs and things, which

01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:23.515 align:middle line:84%
are maybe better able
to be in the business.

01:08:23.515 --> 01:08:25.390 align:middle line:84%
The problem is the formal
sector can't really

01:08:25.390 --> 01:08:27.430 align:middle line:84%
do it because you don't
have the formal title.

01:08:27.430 --> 01:08:31.312 align:middle line:84%
So it becomes really tricky
to be, like, what are you--

01:08:31.312 --> 01:08:32.770 align:middle line:84%
doing this thing
through the form--

01:08:32.770 --> 01:08:34.720 align:middle line:84%
I think providing
this kind of insurance

01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:36.399 align:middle line:84%
through the formal
sector is difficult

01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:40.950 align:middle line:84%
if you don't have title
because the formal sector needs

01:08:40.950 --> 01:08:42.880 align:middle line:90%
paperwork, basically.

01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:44.340 align:middle line:90%
So I don't know of any.

01:08:44.340 --> 01:08:45.399 align:middle line:90%
I could be wrong.

01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:48.090 align:middle line:84%
I don't know of any examples
of the formal sector providing

01:08:48.090 --> 01:08:50.125 align:middle line:84%
insurance against
evictions for squatter,

01:08:50.125 --> 01:08:51.750 align:middle line:84%
for people who don't
have formal title.

01:08:51.750 --> 01:08:54.375 align:middle line:84%
I could be wrong and that would
be super interesting, actually,

01:08:54.375 --> 01:08:55.740 align:middle line:90%
if you found examples of that.

01:08:55.740 --> 01:08:59.910 align:middle line:84%
I do think there are all
these informal institutions,

01:08:59.910 --> 01:09:03.630 align:middle line:84%
like gangs, for example,
which on the one hand

01:09:03.630 --> 01:09:04.620 align:middle line:90%
are just taxing people.

01:09:04.620 --> 01:09:06.180 align:middle line:90%
So they're providing that.

01:09:06.180 --> 01:09:08.430 align:middle line:84%
So a lot of those payments
are just pure straight rent

01:09:08.430 --> 01:09:09.540 align:middle line:90%
extraction.

01:09:09.540 --> 01:09:12.359 align:middle line:84%
But they sometimes are offering
services in exchange for that.

01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:15.210 align:middle line:84%
And because they kind of
operate more informally,

01:09:15.210 --> 01:09:17.910 align:middle line:84%
they can maybe enforce these
things kind of more informally.

01:09:17.910 --> 01:09:21.819 align:middle line:84%
I don't know of
any examples where

01:09:21.819 --> 01:09:24.729 align:middle line:84%
informal institutions
like that are providing

01:09:24.729 --> 01:09:28.120 align:middle line:84%
either good property protection
against expropriation

01:09:28.120 --> 01:09:30.375 align:middle line:90%
or insurance.

01:09:30.375 --> 01:09:31.750 align:middle line:84%
But I think that
would be, if you

01:09:31.750 --> 01:09:34.910 align:middle line:84%
found one, that would be
super interesting to study.

01:09:34.910 --> 01:09:36.439 align:middle line:90%
I think it's super cool.

01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:39.660 align:middle line:90%
No, you're right, absolutely.

01:09:39.660 --> 01:09:42.525 align:middle line:90%
Other questions or comments?

01:09:42.525 --> 01:09:47.000 align:middle line:90%


01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:49.109 align:middle line:90%
OK.

01:09:49.109 --> 01:09:51.598 align:middle line:84%
All right, so number
three in our list of what

01:09:51.598 --> 01:09:53.390 align:middle line:84%
are the problems with
poor property rights,

01:09:53.390 --> 01:09:54.229 align:middle line:90%
is misallocation.

01:09:54.229 --> 01:09:56.050 align:middle line:84%
I think somebody
asked about that.

01:09:56.050 --> 01:10:06.900 align:middle line:84%
So in principle,
tradable property rights

01:10:06.900 --> 01:10:08.580 align:middle line:84%
should lead to
efficiency improvements.

01:10:08.580 --> 01:10:10.520 align:middle line:84%
That's kind of
the Coase theorem.

01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:12.892 align:middle line:84%
As an aside, we have
a current grad student

01:10:12.892 --> 01:10:15.350 align:middle line:84%
who's actually working on some
of this stuff in the context

01:10:15.350 --> 01:10:17.480 align:middle line:84%
of fisheries and
tradable fishing permits,

01:10:17.480 --> 01:10:19.563 align:middle line:84%
exactly kind of asking
these kind of Coase theorem

01:10:19.563 --> 01:10:20.960 align:middle line:90%
questions.

01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:22.320 align:middle line:90%
What about land?

01:10:22.320 --> 01:10:30.170 align:middle line:84%
So this is another paper where
I'm looking for a great land

01:10:30.170 --> 01:10:31.267 align:middle line:90%
Coase theorem paper.

01:10:31.267 --> 01:10:33.350 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to tell you about
two that are relevant,

01:10:33.350 --> 01:10:37.310 align:middle line:84%
but I don't think quite have
exactly what we want here.

01:10:37.310 --> 01:10:39.650 align:middle line:84%
But let me tell
you the two papers

01:10:39.650 --> 01:10:41.252 align:middle line:84%
that I know of that
think about this.

01:10:41.252 --> 01:10:42.710 align:middle line:84%
And also, I should
say, by the way,

01:10:42.710 --> 01:10:45.710 align:middle line:84%
I'm always open to, oh, Ben,
you forgot about this paper.

01:10:45.710 --> 01:10:47.630 align:middle line:84%
So if there are papers
I should be aware of,

01:10:47.630 --> 01:10:48.688 align:middle line:90%
always let me know.

01:10:48.688 --> 01:10:49.980 align:middle line:90%
There's a lot to keep track of.

01:10:49.980 --> 01:10:53.673 align:middle line:84%
So one paper that is not
particularly well known

01:10:53.673 --> 01:10:55.090 align:middle line:84%
but I happen to
it because I think

01:10:55.090 --> 01:10:58.270 align:middle line:84%
it has a very clear question is
this paper by Ravallion and Van

01:10:58.270 --> 01:11:00.170 align:middle line:90%
de Walle about Vietnam.

01:11:00.170 --> 01:11:03.860 align:middle line:84%
So Vietnam was a strict
communist country at one point,

01:11:03.860 --> 01:11:08.072 align:middle line:84%
and then had a bunch of reforms
and relaxed some of that,

01:11:08.072 --> 01:11:10.280 align:middle line:84%
and allowed more tradable,
more things that look more

01:11:10.280 --> 01:11:11.660 align:middle line:90%
like ownership properties.

01:11:11.660 --> 01:11:12.770 align:middle line:84%
So in particular,
they're going to study

01:11:12.770 --> 01:11:14.630 align:middle line:84%
the introduction of private
tradable land in Vietnam.

01:11:14.630 --> 01:11:16.520 align:middle line:84%
So it used to be the land was
allocated by the government,

01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:17.312 align:middle line:90%
couldn't be traded.

01:11:17.312 --> 01:11:19.560 align:middle line:90%
And then it becomes tradable.

01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:21.270 align:middle line:84%
And they want to
argue that basically

01:11:21.270 --> 01:11:23.880 align:middle line:84%
after privatization,
what happens

01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:28.950 align:middle line:84%
is the high-productivity farmers
end up with more land, which

01:11:28.950 --> 01:11:34.180 align:middle line:84%
you would expect in a standard
kind of Coase theorem logic.

01:11:34.180 --> 01:11:34.930 align:middle line:90%
I'm a good farmer.

01:11:34.930 --> 01:11:35.770 align:middle line:90%
You're a bad farmer.

01:11:35.770 --> 01:11:37.510 align:middle line:90%
I should buy your land--

01:11:37.510 --> 01:11:39.040 align:middle line:90%
to some point.

01:11:39.040 --> 01:11:41.530 align:middle line:90%
If there's kind of concave--

01:11:41.530 --> 01:11:43.900 align:middle line:84%
if land productivity
is concave in size,

01:11:43.900 --> 01:11:46.030 align:middle line:84%
then I shouldn't necessarily
buy all the land.

01:11:46.030 --> 01:11:49.905 align:middle line:84%
But on the margin, we should
see an allocation of the--

01:11:49.905 --> 01:11:51.530 align:middle line:84%
if we all have the
same amount of land,

01:11:51.530 --> 01:11:53.320 align:middle line:84%
the marginal productivity
of the good farmers

01:11:53.320 --> 01:11:54.540 align:middle line:84%
would be lower than
the low farmers.

01:11:54.540 --> 01:11:55.300 align:middle line:90%
So that's not an equilibrium.

01:11:55.300 --> 01:11:56.950 align:middle line:84%
We should have more land
to the-- in equilibrium,

01:11:56.950 --> 01:11:59.350 align:middle line:84%
where we allocate, we equalize
marginal products of land,

01:11:59.350 --> 01:12:01.450 align:middle line:84%
should have more land
for the higher farmer's

01:12:01.450 --> 01:12:03.580 align:middle line:90%
standard [INAUDIBLE].

01:12:03.580 --> 01:12:04.610 align:middle line:90%
So how do they do this?

01:12:04.610 --> 01:12:06.670 align:middle line:90%
Well, they do this structurally.

01:12:06.670 --> 01:12:09.765 align:middle line:84%
And they say, in
the pre-period, they

01:12:09.765 --> 01:12:11.390 align:middle line:84%
estimate some
characteristics that make

01:12:11.390 --> 01:12:13.670 align:middle line:90%
you a more productive farmer.

01:12:13.670 --> 01:12:16.250 align:middle line:84%
Then they write down
a functional form

01:12:16.250 --> 01:12:20.330 align:middle line:84%
where basically, they have
this kind of C function, which

01:12:20.330 --> 01:12:26.358 align:middle line:84%
is saying that the C
function is the productivity

01:12:26.358 --> 01:12:28.400 align:middle line:84%
function as a function of
how much land you have,

01:12:28.400 --> 01:12:33.710 align:middle line:84%
and how much, and the
X characteristics.

01:12:33.710 --> 01:12:37.080 align:middle line:84%
And they write it down
parametric like this in logs,

01:12:37.080 --> 01:12:40.650 align:middle line:84%
which means that in levels,
these things are complements.

01:12:40.650 --> 01:12:42.030 align:middle line:84%
So people with
more X should have

01:12:42.030 --> 01:12:44.740 align:middle line:90%
more l in that functional form.

01:12:44.740 --> 01:12:48.090 align:middle line:90%


01:12:48.090 --> 01:12:51.860 align:middle line:84%
And so if this b
coefficient is less than 1,

01:12:51.860 --> 01:12:53.617 align:middle line:90%
this is concave in land.

01:12:53.617 --> 01:12:55.700 align:middle line:84%
And we get the interior
solution, what I basically

01:12:55.700 --> 01:12:58.520 align:middle line:84%
just described, that basically,
you have the people with better

01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:00.140 align:middle line:84%
X's are the ones
getting more land,

01:13:00.140 --> 01:13:01.473 align:middle line:90%
but they don't get all the land.

01:13:01.473 --> 01:13:04.640 align:middle line:90%


01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:10.150 align:middle line:84%
And so they then test whether
land allocations increase with

01:13:10.150 --> 01:13:12.830 align:middle line:84%
this kind of predicted
optimal amount of land,

01:13:12.830 --> 01:13:15.750 align:middle line:84%
which is all function
of their X's.

01:13:15.750 --> 01:13:18.100 align:middle line:84%
I think this is a very
structural kind of approach

01:13:18.100 --> 01:13:18.600 align:middle line:90%
to this.

01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:22.650 align:middle line:84%
It requires getting
these X's kind of right.

01:13:22.650 --> 01:13:29.430 align:middle line:84%
And it also requires other
admitted variables that are

01:13:29.430 --> 01:13:30.760 align:middle line:90%
correlated with these X's.

01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:32.295 align:middle line:84%
So I don't think
this is perfect.

01:13:32.295 --> 01:13:35.230 align:middle line:90%


01:13:35.230 --> 01:13:38.920 align:middle line:84%
For example, there could be
other things, like for example,

01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:41.100 align:middle line:84%
the X's might influence
the production function.

01:13:41.100 --> 01:13:43.518 align:middle line:84%
If I'm politically
connected, maybe I

01:13:43.518 --> 01:13:45.060 align:middle line:84%
look like I'm a good
farmer because I

01:13:45.060 --> 01:13:50.328 align:middle line:84%
can sell at high prices and
maybe also get some output.

01:13:50.328 --> 01:13:52.620 align:middle line:84%
Other things could be changing
besides property rights.

01:13:52.620 --> 01:13:55.427 align:middle line:84%
It's kind of just like
a diff, essentially.

01:13:55.427 --> 01:13:57.510 align:middle line:84%
I mean, it's a different
diff by the l star thing,

01:13:57.510 --> 01:13:59.760 align:middle line:84%
but there could be other
things that are changing that

01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:01.530 align:middle line:90%
change the allocation of land.

01:14:01.530 --> 01:14:03.120 align:middle line:90%
A big one is actually they're--

01:14:03.120 --> 01:14:05.910 align:middle line:84%
the reason this is the
C, this is actually

01:14:05.910 --> 01:14:07.330 align:middle line:90%
consumption, not production.

01:14:07.330 --> 01:14:09.040 align:middle line:90%
So that's a little weird.

01:14:09.040 --> 01:14:11.170 align:middle line:84%
It's not necessarily
what you want.

01:14:11.170 --> 01:14:13.150 align:middle line:84%
And it's a very functional
form of production,

01:14:13.150 --> 01:14:17.435 align:middle line:84%
so very functional
form dependent.

01:14:17.435 --> 01:14:19.060 align:middle line:84%
It's very, very simple
functional form.

01:14:19.060 --> 01:14:21.810 align:middle line:84%
So I'm not going to go through
this in a lot of detail.

01:14:21.810 --> 01:14:23.750 align:middle line:84%
But I think that in
principle, though, this

01:14:23.750 --> 01:14:26.243 align:middle line:84%
is a cool idea to
say, look, here's

01:14:26.243 --> 01:14:28.160 align:middle line:84%
what the efficient
allocation would look like.

01:14:28.160 --> 01:14:31.190 align:middle line:84%
We relax property rates
over here, not over here.

01:14:31.190 --> 01:14:33.710 align:middle line:84%
If we had that extra
diff, does the allocation

01:14:33.710 --> 01:14:37.910 align:middle line:84%
move more in the direction of
more to the high TFP focus?

01:14:37.910 --> 01:14:38.870 align:middle line:90%
Yes, [INAUDIBLE].

01:14:38.870 --> 01:14:41.310 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Would it be a
less structural approach

01:14:41.310 --> 01:14:44.120 align:middle line:90%
to [INAUDIBLE]?

01:14:44.120 --> 01:14:46.877 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: Well,
it's a good question.

01:14:46.877 --> 01:14:48.710 align:middle line:84%
Maybe it's not so much
that it's structural.

01:14:48.710 --> 01:14:51.293 align:middle line:84%
Maybe it's all these data issues
and not having a second diff.

01:14:51.293 --> 01:14:52.370 align:middle line:90%
Maybe that's the problem.

01:14:52.370 --> 01:14:53.090 align:middle line:90%
Maybe you're right.

01:14:53.090 --> 01:14:54.260 align:middle line:84%
I mean, at some level,
you're right-- you

01:14:54.260 --> 01:14:55.400 align:middle line:90%
do have to estimate.

01:14:55.400 --> 01:15:02.310 align:middle line:90%


01:15:02.310 --> 01:15:04.020 align:middle line:84%
Well, one thing I
could do, for example,

01:15:04.020 --> 01:15:05.395 align:middle line:84%
is I could not
protect it on X's.

01:15:05.395 --> 01:15:08.173 align:middle line:90%


01:15:08.173 --> 01:15:09.840 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I'm sorry,
how does that work?

01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:13.190 align:middle line:90%


01:15:13.190 --> 01:15:15.830 align:middle line:84%
BEN OLKEN: OK, fine, it's
a very fair question.

01:15:15.830 --> 01:15:20.840 align:middle line:84%
So I could estimate individual
farmer fixed characteristics

01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:24.530 align:middle line:84%
and say, I could just take
the production function--

01:15:24.530 --> 01:15:26.660 align:middle line:84%
I could estimate that the
farm production function,

01:15:26.660 --> 01:15:29.360 align:middle line:84%
and then a farmer fixed
effects, and the farmer

01:15:29.360 --> 01:15:33.050 align:middle line:84%
fixed effects is kind
of your residual TFP.

01:15:33.050 --> 01:15:36.747 align:middle line:84%
And then, I could see whether
individual farmers who

01:15:36.747 --> 01:15:39.080 align:middle line:84%
seem more productive get more
land when they free it up.

01:15:39.080 --> 01:15:40.490 align:middle line:90%
That would be a less--

01:15:40.490 --> 01:15:44.390 align:middle line:84%
it's still parametric in that I
have to partial out other stuff

01:15:44.390 --> 01:15:50.310 align:middle line:84%
to get your piece of it, but
that would be one way to do it.

01:15:50.310 --> 01:15:53.300 align:middle line:84%
So another way to
do it would be to--

01:15:53.300 --> 01:15:55.970 align:middle line:84%
it's not perfect, it's
got other downsides,

01:15:55.970 --> 01:16:04.450 align:middle line:84%
but to say, look,
I'm going to estimate

01:16:04.450 --> 01:16:09.420 align:middle line:90%
the average productivity.

01:16:09.420 --> 01:16:10.670 align:middle line:90%
I could take something simple.

01:16:10.670 --> 01:16:12.260 align:middle line:84%
I could do average
productivity of land.

01:16:12.260 --> 01:16:12.830 align:middle line:90%
Maybe that's the same.

01:16:12.830 --> 01:16:13.730 align:middle line:90%
It's the same as the X's.

01:16:13.730 --> 01:16:14.930 align:middle line:90%
So maybe that's the answer.

01:16:14.930 --> 01:16:20.300 align:middle line:84%
Is it A, better data,
B, an extra diff, and C,

01:16:20.300 --> 01:16:22.040 align:middle line:84%
I think maybe a
richer structure where

01:16:22.040 --> 01:16:25.235 align:middle line:84%
I don't load it all into
a couple of X's maybe

01:16:25.235 --> 01:16:27.340 align:middle line:90%
would be better.

01:16:27.340 --> 01:16:28.960 align:middle line:84%
Fair question,
though, fair question.

01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:34.500 align:middle line:90%


01:16:34.500 --> 01:16:35.430 align:middle line:90%
But what do you see?

01:16:35.430 --> 01:16:44.480 align:middle line:84%
The basic point is the land
deficit is l star over--

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these are the people that
should have more land.

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This is like l star over
l, optimal land compared

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to actual land.

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And this is the change in
land during the reform period.

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So in general, just says
during this five-year period,

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the people who we
predict to get more land

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do actually get more land.

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So it suggests it's reallocation
in the productivity dimension,

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with the caveats I mentioned.

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The last thing I
want to say for today

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is that this Coase process,
this reallocation process,

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can take a really long time.

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And here's a nice
example of this.

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This is a paper by
Bleakley and Ferrie.

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It's called, "Land Openings
on the Georgia Frontier

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and the Coase Theorem in
the Short and the Long Run."

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So this paper studied
land allocations

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in the US State of Georgia.

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And the frontier in Georgia--

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this was a long time ago if
Georgia was the frontier.

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For those of you
who know, the US

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was settled,
approximately settled,

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certainly from coast to coast,
mostly from East to West,

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with some caveats, by
the colonists and so on.

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So the frontier was opened
by the US government

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to settlers in
waves heading west.

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And different waves used
different parcel sizes.

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So at some area, I think
they get 40-acre parcels,

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and they get 160-acre parcels,
or something like that.

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And there's a discontinuity
of the border between which

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of the areas where
it was divided

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into big plots and
the area where it

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was divided into small plots.

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And they argue that in the long
run, if the Coase theorem is

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true, the optimal
plot sizes should

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converge to the same thing
on both sides of this border.

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There's an optimal
farm size in Georgia,

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and we should buy and sell
farms to get to the optimal farm

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size.

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So the initial allocation of
big farms versus small farms

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shouldn't matter
in the long run.

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And the question is, how
long is the long run?

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That is the question
of this paper.

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And the answer is, the
long run's about 100 years.

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So they trace the parcel size
across this border over time,

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and it doesn't really converge
till almost 100 years later.

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So I just want to say that
the Coase theorem works,

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but the Coase
theorem is slow, was

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the point I wanted
to make-- so just

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worth keeping in mind, as well.

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OK, I'm out of time.

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I'll stop here.

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I'll just finish up the
last few things about land.

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The paper I'm going to start
with very briefly next time

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is--

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I'll talk a little bit about
this Foster and Rosenzweig

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paper, if you have
a quick look at it.

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And then we'll switch to the--

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I think the PF lectures are
next, on redistribution,

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are the next ones.

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So that's what's coming next.

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I'll see you guys on Wednesday.

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