WEBVTT 00:00:11.020 --> 00:00:13.020 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: My name is Michael Holzwarth, 00:00:13.020 --> 00:00:13.980 as Philip said. 00:00:13.980 --> 00:00:16.440 First and foremost, I'd like to thank you guys in advance 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:20.040 for giving me the opportunity to, for lack of better terms, 00:00:20.040 --> 00:00:24.300 drone on about drones for about a half hour here. 00:00:24.300 --> 00:00:27.390 Today, I'll briefly be covering the part 107 guidelines, 00:00:27.390 --> 00:00:30.060 the differences between hobby flying 00:00:30.060 --> 00:00:34.970 and 107 commercial flying, different policies, procedures, 00:00:34.970 --> 00:00:37.870 and my experience thus far in the industry. 00:00:37.870 --> 00:00:40.210 At any time, if you guys have any questions, 00:00:40.210 --> 00:00:42.090 feel free to interrupt. 00:00:42.090 --> 00:00:43.003 I don't mind. 00:00:43.003 --> 00:00:45.420 And I'm going to leave some time at the end for questions. 00:00:45.420 --> 00:00:47.970 And if any of you guys want to come up and check out the bird 00:00:47.970 --> 00:00:51.330 up here, please feel free. 00:00:51.330 --> 00:00:53.465 All right. 00:00:53.465 --> 00:00:54.840 This first slide is going to talk 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:57.840 a little bit about my journey thus far in the UAV industry, 00:00:57.840 --> 00:00:59.460 or UAS. 00:00:59.460 --> 00:01:02.280 Bought my first drone in 2014 to take with me on a trip 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.920 to Hawaii, edited up some footage, 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.860 posted my content to YouTube, and got a little bit 00:01:07.860 --> 00:01:09.540 of semi-viral success-- 00:01:09.540 --> 00:01:12.390 about 50,000 views. 00:01:12.390 --> 00:01:15.300 And then a licensing company actually reached out to me 00:01:15.300 --> 00:01:17.910 and said, hey, we want to utilize some of your footage. 00:01:17.910 --> 00:01:18.780 We want to sell it. 00:01:18.780 --> 00:01:20.062 We like it. 00:01:20.062 --> 00:01:22.020 And I just said, man, I just made this for fun. 00:01:22.020 --> 00:01:22.950 I can make money doing this. 00:01:22.950 --> 00:01:23.670 This is great. 00:01:23.670 --> 00:01:26.790 And saw a little side revenue stream there. 00:01:29.550 --> 00:01:31.975 After I started making a little bit of money, 00:01:31.975 --> 00:01:32.850 I was kind of hooked. 00:01:32.850 --> 00:01:36.000 And when the first round of 107 exams 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.100 took place roughly two years ago, 00:01:38.100 --> 00:01:39.570 I told my father at East Coast, I 00:01:39.570 --> 00:01:43.410 want to be the very first person in the state to take that exam. 00:01:43.410 --> 00:01:44.040 I passed. 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.680 I was the first person in the state of Massachusetts 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:48.000 to hold the 107. 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:50.263 That reign of terror lasted roughly five minutes 00:01:50.263 --> 00:01:51.930 till the kid next to me passed his test. 00:01:51.930 --> 00:01:53.320 And then there was two. 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.140 I then had some local success. 00:01:58.140 --> 00:02:01.980 Next, I made a video, as Phillip was alluding to, 00:02:01.980 --> 00:02:04.330 on Cape Cod over at Wellfleet. 00:02:04.330 --> 00:02:06.360 If any of you are familiar with the Beachcomber. 00:02:06.360 --> 00:02:08.220 I absolutely love that place. 00:02:08.220 --> 00:02:10.889 Went and flew my drone there, posted a video. 00:02:10.889 --> 00:02:13.200 All the local news channels picked it up. 00:02:13.200 --> 00:02:16.440 And about two weeks later, I received a nice $1,500 00:02:16.440 --> 00:02:20.250 fine from the ranger station in Cape Cod. 00:02:20.250 --> 00:02:22.440 They fined me for-- 00:02:22.440 --> 00:02:26.700 what was it-- some kind of Piper Plover Puffin bird out there. 00:02:26.700 --> 00:02:28.110 I was flying over a sanctuary. 00:02:28.110 --> 00:02:29.640 They were not happy with that. 00:02:29.640 --> 00:02:34.200 And I was operating a UAS over a national park. 00:02:34.200 --> 00:02:36.450 I want to stress, though, the FAA didn't fine me. 00:02:36.450 --> 00:02:40.680 It was the ranger service that gave me the fine. 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:43.200 I kind of chuckled at it, because I made about $4,800 00:02:43.200 --> 00:02:46.080 off the footage, and that made the fine kind of worth it. 00:02:49.190 --> 00:02:52.470 In the fall of 2016, I basically hit some viral gold. 00:02:52.470 --> 00:02:55.920 I took my drone up to the Kancamagus Highway 00:02:55.920 --> 00:02:59.070 during the fall, made a nice little foliage video. 00:02:59.070 --> 00:03:01.260 Couple licensing companies picked it up. 00:03:01.260 --> 00:03:05.310 And that very next day, it ran on Good Morning America. 00:03:05.310 --> 00:03:09.270 I got some national attention to the tune of about 4.7 00:03:09.270 --> 00:03:11.340 million views on the video. 00:03:11.340 --> 00:03:13.440 Still counting-- people still watching that thing 00:03:13.440 --> 00:03:13.990 all the time. 00:03:13.990 --> 00:03:16.500 Especially in the fall, it gets a lot of play. 00:03:16.500 --> 00:03:19.980 You might be wondering, what does 4.7 million views 00:03:19.980 --> 00:03:22.440 equate to in dollars? 00:03:22.440 --> 00:03:24.400 I'll admit, it's not that much. 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:27.440 I wish it was $1 a view, but, unfortunately, is not. 00:03:27.440 --> 00:03:29.160 I think I made about $10,000 off that. 00:03:29.160 --> 00:03:31.740 But something I was just doing for fun, 00:03:31.740 --> 00:03:35.370 and I had no intention of it going viral or getting 00:03:35.370 --> 00:03:36.270 that kind of success. 00:03:36.270 --> 00:03:39.390 So it was definitely a plus. 00:03:39.390 --> 00:03:42.390 After I got that national attention, 00:03:42.390 --> 00:03:44.070 a local production company called 00:03:44.070 --> 00:03:46.582 Above Summit, here in Somerville, contacted me. 00:03:46.582 --> 00:03:47.790 Where you been all our lives? 00:03:47.790 --> 00:03:49.140 Come work for us. 00:03:49.140 --> 00:03:52.500 And now I'm a production coordinator and Lead Drone Op 00:03:52.500 --> 00:03:55.090 over at Above Summit. 00:03:55.090 --> 00:03:57.020 Next slide. 00:03:57.020 --> 00:03:58.720 This slide, basically just provide you 00:03:58.720 --> 00:04:01.750 with some links to the full text of regulations, introduction 00:04:01.750 --> 00:04:04.660 material, and any other relevant documents. 00:04:04.660 --> 00:04:08.770 You guys can take a look at this on your own time. 00:04:08.770 --> 00:04:09.270 All right. 00:04:09.270 --> 00:04:11.730 Next, we're going to talk a little bit about hobby 00:04:11.730 --> 00:04:13.530 [? versus ?] 107. 00:04:13.530 --> 00:04:15.240 Let's talk about the difference. 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:17.649 Hobby operation is just how it sounds. 00:04:17.649 --> 00:04:20.160 You want to go out and take some pictures of your kids 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:22.410 or do whatever, that's on your own time. 00:04:22.410 --> 00:04:23.543 That's hobby. 00:04:23.543 --> 00:04:25.710 But if your intended use is for anything commercial, 00:04:25.710 --> 00:04:29.010 you are required to obtain a 107. 00:04:29.010 --> 00:04:32.700 Some examples-- real estate photos, aerial surveying, 00:04:32.700 --> 00:04:36.452 thermal imaging, search and rescue, 00:04:36.452 --> 00:04:38.910 industrial pipeline inspection, things of that nature even. 00:04:38.910 --> 00:04:41.820 If you're working for or with a non-profit, 00:04:41.820 --> 00:04:45.147 you still have to obtain your 107. 00:04:45.147 --> 00:04:47.480 PHILIP GREENSPUN: What are the asterisks there, Michael? 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:48.938 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: We'll get to it. 00:04:48.938 --> 00:04:49.980 We're getting there. 00:04:49.980 --> 00:04:52.020 So some basic operating rules are 00:04:52.020 --> 00:04:55.050 shared by both hobby and 107 operators. 00:04:55.050 --> 00:04:56.700 You have to keep visual line of site, 00:04:56.700 --> 00:04:58.650 must follow basic safety guidelines, 00:04:58.650 --> 00:05:02.018 maintain altitude of 400 feet or below. 00:05:02.018 --> 00:05:03.810 Something to note, like Phillip was saying, 00:05:03.810 --> 00:05:07.770 you'll see these asterisk bullet points on the right-hand side 00:05:07.770 --> 00:05:10.350 under "107." 00:05:10.350 --> 00:05:13.245 You can get waivers and exceptions from the FAA 00:05:13.245 --> 00:05:15.490 to kind of break these rules. 00:05:15.490 --> 00:05:17.490 We're going to talk a little bit more about that 00:05:17.490 --> 00:05:19.220 as the slides continue here. 00:05:19.220 --> 00:05:20.550 We'll circle back to that. 00:05:25.540 --> 00:05:28.840 Slide 4 talks about multi-person crew. 00:05:28.840 --> 00:05:30.730 They don't tell you that you have 00:05:30.730 --> 00:05:32.110 to have a multi-person crew. 00:05:32.110 --> 00:05:33.910 Sometimes it's really not needed. 00:05:33.910 --> 00:05:37.270 If you're working for, let's say, a real estate company 00:05:37.270 --> 00:05:40.687 and they want you to take some photos of a residential house, 00:05:40.687 --> 00:05:42.520 you're standing right in front of the house. 00:05:42.520 --> 00:05:44.440 You don't really need a visual observer-- 00:05:44.440 --> 00:05:47.330 someone looking for obstructions or things of that nature. 00:05:47.330 --> 00:05:48.670 You can pull it off yourself. 00:05:48.670 --> 00:05:52.930 But in more of a professional setting, or depending 00:05:52.930 --> 00:05:57.340 on the scope of your job that you're using your UAS for, 00:05:57.340 --> 00:06:01.090 having a visual observer is definitely helpful. 00:06:01.090 --> 00:06:03.730 I have some buddies that work in the industrial sector, 00:06:03.730 --> 00:06:07.120 inspecting pipeline that's 30, 40 miles long. 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:09.340 They actually use 10 visual observers. 00:06:09.340 --> 00:06:11.620 And they stage them with radios and binoculars 00:06:11.620 --> 00:06:15.430 along the pipeline, just for added safety. 00:06:15.430 --> 00:06:16.930 And then they have the operator kind 00:06:16.930 --> 00:06:21.520 of cruising, walking with the drone, if you will, sometimes. 00:06:21.520 --> 00:06:24.760 But my personal experience on movie sets and things 00:06:24.760 --> 00:06:27.700 of that nature, we operate with a three-man crew. 00:06:27.700 --> 00:06:30.400 We have a visual observer, a camera operator, 00:06:30.400 --> 00:06:34.690 and then someone behind the wheel of this thing right here. 00:06:34.690 --> 00:06:36.490 You will notice this camera on here 00:06:36.490 --> 00:06:40.443 can be independently operated by its own set of controls. 00:06:40.443 --> 00:06:41.860 And then the drone can be operated 00:06:41.860 --> 00:06:45.430 by its set of controls, which allows you to get 00:06:45.430 --> 00:06:47.500 more dynamic range of shots. 00:06:47.500 --> 00:06:48.730 Drone can be going this way. 00:06:48.730 --> 00:06:50.920 Camera can be panning the other way. 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:53.070 Drone can be rising up as camera goes down. 00:06:53.070 --> 00:06:55.150 So it really brings some versatility 00:06:55.150 --> 00:06:56.860 to your shots and things of that nature. 00:06:59.420 --> 00:07:01.570 The last bullet point here mentions 00:07:01.570 --> 00:07:04.390 that the drone operator need not be certified, 00:07:04.390 --> 00:07:08.500 but a 107 operator must be on-site. 00:07:08.500 --> 00:07:11.230 You might be wondering when this would come into play. 00:07:11.230 --> 00:07:14.620 I get a lot of requests from wedding people-- 00:07:14.620 --> 00:07:17.260 wedding people, videographers, photographers, 00:07:17.260 --> 00:07:18.520 things of that nature. 00:07:18.520 --> 00:07:22.930 They look at the drone as kind of another tool in their bag 00:07:22.930 --> 00:07:25.420 to utilize when they're doing their gigs 00:07:25.420 --> 00:07:26.680 and things of that nature. 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.080 They don't want to get a 107. 00:07:29.080 --> 00:07:31.150 They don't want the hassle. 00:07:31.150 --> 00:07:33.218 For them, it's easier to pay me $100 just 00:07:33.218 --> 00:07:35.260 to show up and make sure they're doing everything 00:07:35.260 --> 00:07:37.840 on the up-and-up and supervising. 00:07:37.840 --> 00:07:39.640 It always amazes me, too, at weddings 00:07:39.640 --> 00:07:42.250 why someone would want this loud spinning machine 00:07:42.250 --> 00:07:43.580 over their ceremony. 00:07:43.580 --> 00:07:45.580 While they're giving their "I dos," all you hear 00:07:45.580 --> 00:07:48.850 is [IMITATING DRONE]. 00:07:48.850 --> 00:07:50.790 Some people actually want it for the video, 00:07:50.790 --> 00:07:53.380 though, and want it for prosperity, I guess. 00:07:56.410 --> 00:07:57.000 All right. 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:59.470 Human factors in decision-making-- alcohol 00:07:59.470 --> 00:08:00.610 and drugs. 00:08:00.610 --> 00:08:02.650 Obviously, don't operate under the influence, 00:08:02.650 --> 00:08:04.737 no matter how tempting it is. 00:08:04.737 --> 00:08:06.820 Have a couple of beers, want to fly on the beach-- 00:08:06.820 --> 00:08:10.155 not a smart idea. 00:08:10.155 --> 00:08:10.780 Let's see here. 00:08:10.780 --> 00:08:13.018 Crew resource management-- this basically 00:08:13.018 --> 00:08:14.560 stated, the more people you can bring 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:16.000 into the operation, the better. 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.820 Nothing wrong with an extra set of eyes. 00:08:18.820 --> 00:08:23.240 Fatigue and stress-- obviously, not a good time to operate. 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:26.960 Here's one of my favorites, talking about attitudes. 00:08:26.960 --> 00:08:29.510 The FAA, they list five attitudes-- 00:08:29.510 --> 00:08:33.830 anti-authority, macho, impulsivity and vulnerability, 00:08:33.830 --> 00:08:35.630 and resignation. 00:08:35.630 --> 00:08:37.610 The one I see the most out there is 00:08:37.610 --> 00:08:40.370 anti-authority, all the time. 00:08:40.370 --> 00:08:42.679 People want to fly where they're not supposed to. 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:44.900 They want to fly longer than they should. 00:08:44.900 --> 00:08:47.510 They want to fly in no-fly zones, 00:08:47.510 --> 00:08:50.810 800 feet by Logan, right by the runway. 00:08:50.810 --> 00:08:54.170 That's just not beneficial for the hobby, 00:08:54.170 --> 00:08:56.900 not beneficial for anybody. 00:08:56.900 --> 00:08:58.370 That Logan example-- 00:08:58.370 --> 00:09:01.460 Logan is actually currently doing something about it. 00:09:01.460 --> 00:09:03.980 The company DJI, which Philip mentioned earlier, 00:09:03.980 --> 00:09:08.900 they're actually the leader in commercial drone systems. 00:09:08.900 --> 00:09:12.950 They recently came up with this product called DJI Aeroscope. 00:09:12.950 --> 00:09:18.350 And what Aeroscope does, whether it's a DJI drone or not, 00:09:18.350 --> 00:09:21.770 if you fly into Logan airspace, it will ping your bird. 00:09:21.770 --> 00:09:24.680 And it will tell them your location and serial number. 00:09:24.680 --> 00:09:27.050 The serial number is going to go right back to you. 00:09:27.050 --> 00:09:28.820 You're going to lose your 107. 00:09:28.820 --> 00:09:32.270 And you're going to get some hefty fines. 00:09:32.270 --> 00:09:35.570 It's just not smart to fly in Logan airspace or any airport 00:09:35.570 --> 00:09:37.415 airspace, for that example. 00:09:37.415 --> 00:09:39.790 Why do you want to mess around with the manned aircrafts? 00:09:42.712 --> 00:09:44.173 Let's see here. 00:09:48.070 --> 00:09:51.100 Next, we're going to get into performance you'll basically 00:09:51.100 --> 00:09:54.940 find the same performance issues that you do with fixed wings, 00:09:54.940 --> 00:09:56.860 but the drone, obviously, is going to be 00:09:56.860 --> 00:09:59.230 more sensitive to these issues. 00:09:59.230 --> 00:10:01.630 Things like high-density altitude, humidity, weight, 00:10:01.630 --> 00:10:03.340 high winds are all examples of items 00:10:03.340 --> 00:10:04.840 that are going to negatively impact 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:07.450 the performance of your UAS. 00:10:07.450 --> 00:10:11.320 So definitely be cautious of that. 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:17.110 Loading-- I always like talking about this. 00:10:17.110 --> 00:10:21.000 There is no book yet about how to properly load these things. 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:24.490 Now, this drone that I brought in, 00:10:24.490 --> 00:10:27.310 this only has a limited amount of camera and imaging systems 00:10:27.310 --> 00:10:29.800 that you can mount here onto the drone. 00:10:29.800 --> 00:10:31.390 So this camera actually comes off. 00:10:31.390 --> 00:10:33.490 This whole entire three-axis gimbal system 00:10:33.490 --> 00:10:34.750 here can mount off. 00:10:34.750 --> 00:10:36.400 And you can put interchangeable-- 00:10:36.400 --> 00:10:38.312 if you wanted to put thermal, let's say-- 00:10:38.312 --> 00:10:40.020 let's say the police call me, and they've 00:10:40.020 --> 00:10:41.812 got somebody missing or somebody kidnapped. 00:10:41.812 --> 00:10:43.600 And they think they're in this area. 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.300 I can do grid patterns with thermal imaging 00:10:46.300 --> 00:10:49.060 to find these guys. 00:10:49.060 --> 00:10:50.728 So that's this type of drone. 00:10:50.728 --> 00:10:53.020 But when we're on movie sets and things of that nature, 00:10:53.020 --> 00:10:57.700 we're using what-- the term we call it is a heavy lift drone. 00:10:57.700 --> 00:11:00.310 We have a drone that has a wing span of about 10 feet 00:11:00.310 --> 00:11:01.510 from prop to prop. 00:11:01.510 --> 00:11:02.830 It's massive. 00:11:02.830 --> 00:11:08.680 It can hold up about 40 to 50 pounds on its own stabilizer. 00:11:08.680 --> 00:11:11.460 And the problem is, is that there's 00:11:11.460 --> 00:11:13.350 so many different kinds of cameras 00:11:13.350 --> 00:11:14.970 that this thing could mount. 00:11:14.970 --> 00:11:17.370 You could mount an Arr Alexa Mini. 00:11:17.370 --> 00:11:20.340 You could mount a Canon, a Sony,. 00:11:20.340 --> 00:11:22.590 Cameras that you see people walking around the common, 00:11:22.590 --> 00:11:25.410 taking pictures with, you can mount on these types of drones. 00:11:25.410 --> 00:11:27.330 The issue is, they're all different sizes. 00:11:27.330 --> 00:11:28.538 They're all different shapes. 00:11:28.538 --> 00:11:29.880 They're all different weights. 00:11:29.880 --> 00:11:33.560 And there's no real book on how to properly mount these things. 00:11:33.560 --> 00:11:37.920 So what we do is test, test, test. 00:11:37.920 --> 00:11:41.430 We go out to wide open fields. 00:11:41.430 --> 00:11:42.390 Here's a good example. 00:11:42.390 --> 00:11:45.390 Last month we did a movie called Knives Out. 00:11:45.390 --> 00:11:48.450 If any of you have seen James Bond, 007-- 00:11:48.450 --> 00:11:50.220 that actor, Daniel Craig. 00:11:50.220 --> 00:11:52.980 We were doing a movie for that. 00:11:52.980 --> 00:11:55.170 And they wanted this about $100,000 00:11:55.170 --> 00:11:58.470 camera mounted onto the drone for the job. 00:11:58.470 --> 00:12:03.228 If that's not nerve-wracking enough, flying $100,000-- 00:12:03.228 --> 00:12:04.270 but then we were nervous. 00:12:04.270 --> 00:12:06.645 We were like, look, we've never flown that camera before. 00:12:06.645 --> 00:12:08.730 We've never tested it on this heavy-lift drone. 00:12:08.730 --> 00:12:12.060 So we actually made the studio give us the camera for a week. 00:12:12.060 --> 00:12:14.010 We took it to a wide open field. 00:12:14.010 --> 00:12:15.630 We played around with it for a while. 00:12:15.630 --> 00:12:17.983 And we got it dialed in perfectly. 00:12:17.983 --> 00:12:19.650 The last thing you want to do is show up 00:12:19.650 --> 00:12:23.173 to a job and kind of "wing it" with six figures 00:12:23.173 --> 00:12:25.590 worth of equipment, where you're working around a guy that 00:12:25.590 --> 00:12:27.270 gets paid $20 million a movie. 00:12:27.270 --> 00:12:29.490 It's just a recipe for disaster. 00:12:29.490 --> 00:12:31.680 So make sure you're always testing 00:12:31.680 --> 00:12:33.360 all the time, especially if you're 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:36.632 loading different things. 00:12:36.632 --> 00:12:39.090 You could definitely have fun with loading these things up, 00:12:39.090 --> 00:12:39.590 too. 00:12:39.590 --> 00:12:41.820 I was telling Philip a story the other day. 00:12:41.820 --> 00:12:44.670 About five years ago, when I had my first DJI Phantom, 00:12:44.670 --> 00:12:46.890 I mounted some Roman candles on the landing gear, 00:12:46.890 --> 00:12:48.220 chased my buddies around. 00:12:48.220 --> 00:12:50.220 So you could definitely have some fun there. 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:53.970 There's nothing in the book about that. 00:12:53.970 --> 00:12:57.030 Moving on, drones at night-- 00:12:57.030 --> 00:12:59.010 you do need a waiver to fly at night. 00:12:59.010 --> 00:13:01.770 And we'll get more into how to apply for these waivers 00:13:01.770 --> 00:13:04.776 and what portals you have to go through with the FAA. 00:13:04.776 --> 00:13:07.600 The DroneZone is actually for flying at night, 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:09.690 and, again, I'll get more into that. 00:13:09.690 --> 00:13:13.110 You can, however, operate-- we like using the term golden hour 00:13:13.110 --> 00:13:15.593 or civil twilight, if you will. 00:13:15.593 --> 00:13:17.010 The only rule is, you have to have 00:13:17.010 --> 00:13:20.160 a small strobe or anti-collision lights on there. 00:13:20.160 --> 00:13:23.040 We always like to mount on this drone right there, 00:13:23.040 --> 00:13:25.580 just to make sure we're not getting anything in the camera 00:13:25.580 --> 00:13:26.080 image. 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.890 Or we don't want the footage to show the strobe, obviously, 00:13:28.890 --> 00:13:32.010 but we want to play it safe. 00:13:32.010 --> 00:13:34.290 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Michael, hold on a sec. 00:13:34.290 --> 00:13:37.890 So is there an official mounting spot for a light here? 00:13:37.890 --> 00:13:38.890 Or you just have to-- 00:13:38.890 --> 00:13:39.750 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Velcro. 00:13:39.750 --> 00:13:41.042 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Velcro it on? 00:13:41.042 --> 00:13:42.650 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Gorilla tape. 00:13:42.650 --> 00:13:45.083 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Interesting. 00:13:45.083 --> 00:13:46.500 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Let's see here. 00:13:46.500 --> 00:13:50.430 Regulatory fine print-- don't be careless or reckless. 00:13:50.430 --> 00:13:52.290 Don't drop stuff. 00:13:52.290 --> 00:13:55.140 If you crash and it causes significant damage, which 00:13:55.140 --> 00:13:59.760 I believe the FAA considers $500, you do have to report it. 00:13:59.760 --> 00:14:04.340 Luckily, I've never run into that issue, which is nice. 00:14:04.340 --> 00:14:06.560 Pre-flight-- pre-flight is huge. 00:14:06.560 --> 00:14:09.830 Just like fixed wing, you want to do pre-flight. 00:14:09.830 --> 00:14:13.080 You can see all the pre-flight requirements here on the slide. 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:15.140 In my personal experience, I've seen 00:14:15.140 --> 00:14:19.490 situations go very bad because pre-flight has not happened. 00:14:19.490 --> 00:14:21.920 Literally, three weeks ago, I had a buddy who 00:14:21.920 --> 00:14:25.850 bought this same exact drone. 00:14:25.850 --> 00:14:27.780 Actually, it was a version before this. 00:14:27.780 --> 00:14:29.450 This is a DJI Inspire 2. 00:14:29.450 --> 00:14:31.790 He had a DJI Inspire 1. 00:14:31.790 --> 00:14:33.710 It was very cold outside. 00:14:33.710 --> 00:14:37.250 And he just fired it up and took off right away, 00:14:37.250 --> 00:14:39.410 did not pay attention to his battery voltage. 00:14:39.410 --> 00:14:40.910 About eight minutes into his flight, 00:14:40.910 --> 00:14:42.770 his bird dropped like a rock. 00:14:42.770 --> 00:14:45.920 And that was about a $5,000 loss, just going out, 00:14:45.920 --> 00:14:47.300 having fun with your buddies. 00:14:47.300 --> 00:14:49.880 So pre-flight is definitely something 00:14:49.880 --> 00:14:52.310 that you want to pay attention to. 00:14:52.310 --> 00:14:55.865 Personally, I double and triple-check before taking off. 00:14:55.865 --> 00:14:56.990 A lot of times, what I do-- 00:14:56.990 --> 00:15:01.220 I'll do my walk around the drone to make sure everything's good, 00:15:01.220 --> 00:15:04.880 make sure connection links are fine. 00:15:04.880 --> 00:15:06.513 And then what I'll do, when I take off, 00:15:06.513 --> 00:15:08.930 I'll let it sit for about 30 seconds right in front of me, 00:15:08.930 --> 00:15:10.220 five feet off the ground. 00:15:10.220 --> 00:15:11.582 I'll watch the controls. 00:15:11.582 --> 00:15:13.790 I'll watch everything, make sure my gauges are right, 00:15:13.790 --> 00:15:16.100 make sure I have good connection to satellites, 00:15:16.100 --> 00:15:19.790 make sure it's GPS locked, make sure my Return-to-Home button 00:15:19.790 --> 00:15:24.470 is readily available and marked. 00:15:24.470 --> 00:15:26.350 These are expensive. 00:15:26.350 --> 00:15:29.623 This setup right here, you're looking at $10,000 00:15:29.623 --> 00:15:30.290 into this thing. 00:15:30.290 --> 00:15:33.350 So a little extra time pre-flight 00:15:33.350 --> 00:15:36.320 is definitely worth it. 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:39.080 Also, remember, pre-flight just doesn't include only the drone, 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:39.580 as well. 00:15:39.580 --> 00:15:42.010 If you're working with a multi-crew, 00:15:42.010 --> 00:15:44.260 double-check your comm systems. 00:15:44.260 --> 00:15:45.700 Double-check your batteries. 00:15:45.700 --> 00:15:46.830 Double-check the props. 00:15:46.830 --> 00:15:49.080 Make sure they're not chipped-- things of that nature. 00:15:53.670 --> 00:15:55.590 This reminds me of one story. 00:15:55.590 --> 00:15:58.890 I actually did have a crash once about three years ago. 00:15:58.890 --> 00:16:01.140 You guys know what stand-up paddle-boarding is, right? 00:16:01.140 --> 00:16:04.320 People stand up on the paddle board, and they do this thing. 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.900 I had a company ask me to film them at night in Marblehead. 00:16:08.900 --> 00:16:12.740 And it was this big, open bay with a ton of boats. 00:16:12.740 --> 00:16:15.390 So we had, like, 40 yards of open water 00:16:15.390 --> 00:16:17.970 and then nothing but a boat parking lot. 00:16:17.970 --> 00:16:21.330 And these guys at night were going to put LED strip lights 00:16:21.330 --> 00:16:22.410 all over them. 00:16:22.410 --> 00:16:25.290 They had these spotlights to go under the water on the board. 00:16:25.290 --> 00:16:28.800 And they were going to do some nighttime black light yoga 00:16:28.800 --> 00:16:31.070 session out there in the water. 00:16:31.070 --> 00:16:31.830 Sure. 00:16:31.830 --> 00:16:33.510 If your check clears, I'll go film it. 00:16:33.510 --> 00:16:35.580 No problem. 00:16:35.580 --> 00:16:37.080 So I say to myself, all right-- 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:38.425 I'm looking at the situation. 00:16:38.425 --> 00:16:40.800 And I say, all right, there's a bunch of boats out there. 00:16:40.800 --> 00:16:42.120 I do not want to hit them. 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:43.320 It is going to be night. 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:45.120 I will not see them when I'm flying. 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:46.320 What can I do? 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.630 So I walked up to where I was going to launch from, 00:16:48.630 --> 00:16:51.070 dip my piggies in the water right there, and said, 00:16:51.070 --> 00:16:54.330 all right, I'm going to fly the drone out to the first boat. 00:16:54.330 --> 00:16:56.160 And I'm going to look at my control set-up, 00:16:56.160 --> 00:16:59.840 and I'm going to note how far away I am from the boats. 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:01.650 I think I was 90 feet away. 00:17:01.650 --> 00:17:04.349 So I told myself mentally, when it comes time 00:17:04.349 --> 00:17:07.200 to film this at night, I will not go past 90 feet, 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:09.690 or I'm going to hit a boat. 00:17:09.690 --> 00:17:12.910 What do you think the problem with that is, anyone? 00:17:12.910 --> 00:17:16.680 Anyone know what the problem with that assessment is? 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:17.525 What else moves? 00:17:17.525 --> 00:17:18.150 AUDIENCE: Tide. 00:17:18.150 --> 00:17:19.358 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Thank you. 00:17:19.358 --> 00:17:20.280 The tide. 00:17:20.280 --> 00:17:21.660 I was a bonehead. 00:17:21.660 --> 00:17:23.760 I did not consider the tide. 00:17:23.760 --> 00:17:26.400 So about two hours later when it came time to do the job, 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:28.380 I put my piggies in the same water right there. 00:17:28.380 --> 00:17:29.672 But guess where that water was? 00:17:29.672 --> 00:17:31.410 About 20 feet out. 00:17:31.410 --> 00:17:35.338 So I'm thinking to myself, I got 90 feet to play with. 00:17:35.338 --> 00:17:35.880 I don't know. 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:37.830 I want to say, one of my last shots 00:17:37.830 --> 00:17:41.312 I wanted to get, I had them all lined up, all the lights. 00:17:41.312 --> 00:17:42.270 Everything looked cool. 00:17:42.270 --> 00:17:43.860 They're all doing a "yay." 00:17:43.860 --> 00:17:45.720 And I wanted to orbit around them. 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.170 And halfway around my orbit, I hear "crunch," "splash." 00:17:49.170 --> 00:17:51.180 I hit a boat mast. 00:17:51.180 --> 00:17:53.400 Luckily-- very luckily-- 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:54.870 the drone hit the mast. 00:17:54.870 --> 00:17:56.970 The battery came out of the compartment. 00:17:56.970 --> 00:17:58.820 The battery is what I heard splashing. 00:17:58.820 --> 00:18:00.570 The physical drone-- and more importantly, 00:18:00.570 --> 00:18:01.950 the memory card with my footage-- 00:18:01.950 --> 00:18:03.690 landed on the boat, which one of the guys 00:18:03.690 --> 00:18:04.690 ended up getting for me. 00:18:04.690 --> 00:18:05.997 So that was good. 00:18:05.997 --> 00:18:07.080 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Michael? 00:18:07.080 --> 00:18:07.530 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Yes. 00:18:07.530 --> 00:18:08.947 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Quick question-- 00:18:08.947 --> 00:18:13.443 I thought these drones had sonar anti-collision systems like-- 00:18:13.443 --> 00:18:14.610 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: These do. 00:18:14.610 --> 00:18:15.450 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Yeah, so why-- 00:18:15.450 --> 00:18:17.200 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: They most certainly do. 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:18.750 And quite frankly, between-- 00:18:18.750 --> 00:18:20.000 I don't want to endorse this. 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:23.640 You should always fly with your obstacle avoidance on 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:25.980 and your vision positioning sensors and things 00:18:25.980 --> 00:18:27.270 of that nature. 00:18:27.270 --> 00:18:30.390 For me, personally, it blows my shots all the time, 00:18:30.390 --> 00:18:31.190 so I turn them off. 00:18:31.190 --> 00:18:32.190 PHILIP GREENSPUN: I see. 00:18:32.190 --> 00:18:36.290 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: If this is a tip of a house 00:18:36.290 --> 00:18:39.210 and I want to go over the house and reveal what's behind it, 00:18:39.210 --> 00:18:41.190 but I want to make it look cinematic 00:18:41.190 --> 00:18:43.920 and I want to clip that roof real close and then 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:46.387 reveal what I'm revealing, too many times 00:18:46.387 --> 00:18:47.470 I'd try to clip it close-- 00:18:47.470 --> 00:18:48.660 I'd hear "beep, beep, beep." 00:18:48.660 --> 00:18:49.380 No, you can't. 00:18:49.380 --> 00:18:50.440 Your shot's now blown. 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:53.160 So personally, I turn them off. 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:55.320 For beginners, I'd recommend, do not turn them off. 00:18:55.320 --> 00:18:56.850 Fly with them on until you're very 00:18:56.850 --> 00:18:58.248 comfortable with these things. 00:18:58.248 --> 00:18:59.290 Again, they're not cheap. 00:18:59.290 --> 00:19:00.870 They're expensive. 00:19:00.870 --> 00:19:03.260 PHILIP GREENSPUN: So a consumer in that boat situation, 00:19:03.260 --> 00:19:04.470 the drone wouldn't have hit the boat, 00:19:04.470 --> 00:19:06.330 because the anti-collision system would have-- 00:19:06.330 --> 00:19:08.122 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: If I had it on, correct. 00:19:08.122 --> 00:19:09.230 If I had it on, correct. 00:19:09.230 --> 00:19:14.370 You'll notice on the drone, this is obstacle avoidance. 00:19:14.370 --> 00:19:16.180 This is obstacle avoidance right there. 00:19:16.180 --> 00:19:17.700 It's got visioning position system 00:19:17.700 --> 00:19:20.500 on the back and an obstacle avoidance on the back, as well. 00:19:20.500 --> 00:19:25.500 So they like to say they're idiot-proof, 00:19:25.500 --> 00:19:26.900 unless you turn everything off. 00:19:29.967 --> 00:19:31.800 Next slide, we're going to talk a little bit 00:19:31.800 --> 00:19:35.280 about operating locally here in the Boston area. 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:41.710 In order to fly commercially in the Boston area, 00:19:41.710 --> 00:19:43.270 you have to be a 107. 00:19:43.270 --> 00:19:47.050 And you must obey, we call it, the grid that ATC 00:19:47.050 --> 00:19:49.570 at KBOS created. 00:19:49.570 --> 00:19:53.290 And let's just take a look at the grid here. 00:19:53.290 --> 00:19:57.160 So you'll notice on this grid, this is the local Boston area. 00:19:57.160 --> 00:19:59.260 Every little square there has a number. 00:19:59.260 --> 00:20:01.000 That number represents the height 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:04.540 that you can achieve if you obtain the waiver. 00:20:04.540 --> 00:20:07.300 And you also have to be 107-certified to fly 00:20:07.300 --> 00:20:09.400 in this grid. 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:13.583 You can do hobby flights if you-- 00:20:13.583 --> 00:20:16.000 theoretically, you're supposed to call the tower if you're 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:18.962 doing a hobby flight and make them aware 00:20:18.962 --> 00:20:20.920 that you're going to be flying in the airspace. 00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:23.920 In my personal experience, every time 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:25.990 I've called, no one picks up. 00:20:25.990 --> 00:20:27.880 You leave a voicemail. 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:30.520 But if you are flying commercially 00:20:30.520 --> 00:20:32.650 and you are 107-certified, you do 00:20:32.650 --> 00:20:36.190 need to pay specific attention to this grid. 00:20:36.190 --> 00:20:38.680 For example, if I wanted to fly in Boston Common, 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:41.720 you can see right in that area, there's 100 box there. 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.030 So without a waiver, since I'm 107-certified, 00:20:45.030 --> 00:20:49.600 I am allowed to fly 100 feet in the Common 00:20:49.600 --> 00:20:51.970 if I hold the authorization to do so. 00:20:51.970 --> 00:20:54.367 And we're going to get more into when 00:20:54.367 --> 00:20:56.950 do you go through the DroneZone and when you go through LAANC. 00:20:56.950 --> 00:20:59.420 And we'll talk about that in a second here. 00:20:59.420 --> 00:21:01.690 Any questions about the grid? 00:21:01.690 --> 00:21:02.470 Anyone? 00:21:02.470 --> 00:21:02.970 All right. 00:21:06.187 --> 00:21:07.360 AUDIENCE: I have a-- 00:21:07.360 --> 00:21:08.360 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Sure. 00:21:08.360 --> 00:21:10.552 AUDIENCE: So [INAUDIBLE]. 00:21:10.552 --> 00:21:11.760 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Excuse me? 00:21:11.760 --> 00:21:15.590 AUDIENCE: If I'm doing a hobby flight, [INAUDIBLE]---- 00:21:15.590 --> 00:21:16.990 are they the same? 00:21:16.990 --> 00:21:18.170 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: No, it's kind of backwards, 00:21:18.170 --> 00:21:19.087 to be honest with you. 00:21:19.087 --> 00:21:21.010 Theoretically, if you're a hobby flyer, 00:21:21.010 --> 00:21:23.920 they tell you you have to be 400 feet or below. 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:27.080 So in theory, if you called Logan and said, 00:21:27.080 --> 00:21:28.912 hey, I'm flying in the Common today 00:21:28.912 --> 00:21:30.370 and I just wanted to let you know-- 00:21:30.370 --> 00:21:33.130 I'm just doing it for fun and messing around-- 00:21:33.130 --> 00:21:35.110 theoretically, you could fly 400 feet. 00:21:35.110 --> 00:21:35.832 Is that smart? 00:21:35.832 --> 00:21:37.540 No, because what's going on around there? 00:21:37.540 --> 00:21:40.270 Med flights, helicopters, things of that nature. 00:21:40.270 --> 00:21:42.250 Ton of people underneath. 00:21:42.250 --> 00:21:44.980 I see it all the time. 00:21:44.980 --> 00:21:46.855 I'll walk down the public garden or whatever. 00:21:46.855 --> 00:21:48.647 And I'll see people taking off their drone, 00:21:48.647 --> 00:21:50.920 flying around like an idiot, having a grand old time. 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:51.940 And I'm just thinking to myself, all 00:21:51.940 --> 00:21:53.710 it's going to take is for you to hit someone, 00:21:53.710 --> 00:21:55.918 and you're going to be on every news station tonight. 00:21:58.950 --> 00:21:59.450 All right. 00:21:59.450 --> 00:22:02.130 Let's get into a little bit of the waiver process. 00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:05.390 There's two portals for waivers and authorizations. 00:22:05.390 --> 00:22:08.750 One's called the DroneZone, and one's called LAANC. 00:22:08.750 --> 00:22:10.750 The DroneZone is used for night flights, 00:22:10.750 --> 00:22:13.820 wide-area authorizations, and exceptions, 00:22:13.820 --> 00:22:16.220 such as those asterisked items that we were looking 00:22:16.220 --> 00:22:18.590 at earlier, like flying over people, 00:22:18.590 --> 00:22:22.340 flying from a moving vehicle, flying over 400 feet, 00:22:22.340 --> 00:22:25.400 flying at night, things of that nature. 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:29.210 And also, the DroneZone is meant for wide-area authorization. 00:22:29.210 --> 00:22:32.570 So I hold a bunch of wide-area authorizations. 00:22:32.570 --> 00:22:34.610 That whole grid that you saw, I basically 00:22:34.610 --> 00:22:36.770 applied for the entire grid. 00:22:36.770 --> 00:22:38.690 So I applied through the DroneZone, 00:22:38.690 --> 00:22:41.425 said, hey, FAA, I work commercial in the area. 00:22:41.425 --> 00:22:42.800 I don't want the pain in the butt 00:22:42.800 --> 00:22:44.467 of having to go through the LAANC system 00:22:44.467 --> 00:22:45.560 every time I get a job. 00:22:45.560 --> 00:22:47.700 Just give me the entire grid. 00:22:47.700 --> 00:22:50.240 And that's good for two years. 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:55.530 Now, the difference is, LAANC is same-day authorization. 00:22:55.530 --> 00:22:57.710 So let's say I get a job in Chicago, 00:22:57.710 --> 00:23:00.920 where I'm not always operating out of. 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:04.070 And I notice that the address they gave me in Chicago 00:23:04.070 --> 00:23:05.480 has a little box around it. 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:06.860 It's class D airspace. 00:23:06.860 --> 00:23:09.200 And they say I can only go 200 feet. 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:11.510 Well, if I don't hold a waiver for Chicago, 00:23:11.510 --> 00:23:13.700 then I would use the LAANC system just 00:23:13.700 --> 00:23:15.830 to get authorization for that one box 00:23:15.830 --> 00:23:19.460 that I'm operating in for that specific day and time. 00:23:19.460 --> 00:23:22.280 They will give that to you within 24 hours. 00:23:22.280 --> 00:23:25.040 Now, for the wide-area authorizations, 00:23:25.040 --> 00:23:28.043 or if you wanted to fly at night or over the grid box-- 00:23:28.043 --> 00:23:30.210 if they say, hey, you can only fly 100, but you say, 00:23:30.210 --> 00:23:33.200 hey, the building I want to film is over 200. 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:35.570 I need 300 feet or something of that nature. 00:23:35.570 --> 00:23:38.190 You have to go through the DroneZone. 00:23:38.190 --> 00:23:40.130 Now, the problem with the DroneZone 00:23:40.130 --> 00:23:43.040 is that it's a two to four-month waiting time. 00:23:43.040 --> 00:23:46.420 So it always behooves you, especially if you're 00:23:46.420 --> 00:23:48.160 going to work in your local market, 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:49.785 to get these authorizations beforehand. 00:23:49.785 --> 00:23:51.660 I don't know anyone that's going to offer you 00:23:51.660 --> 00:23:53.040 a job four months in advance. 00:23:53.040 --> 00:23:56.020 Hey, in four months, I want you to film this down the street 00:23:56.020 --> 00:23:56.650 here. 00:23:56.650 --> 00:23:58.930 Usually, these things happen pretty fast. 00:23:58.930 --> 00:24:02.440 So it always behooves yourselves to get all your authorizations 00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:04.570 and get all your waivers kind of in line. 00:24:09.422 --> 00:24:11.880 Next slide here, we're going to talk about the certificate. 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:14.100 Basically stated-- read the regs. 00:24:14.100 --> 00:24:14.680 Study up. 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.443 Take the test. 00:24:17.443 --> 00:24:19.860 Personally, with my affiliation with East Coast Aero Club, 00:24:19.860 --> 00:24:21.540 they have a great testing center, 00:24:21.540 --> 00:24:22.540 great people over there. 00:24:22.540 --> 00:24:24.780 So please make sure you go East Coast Aero Club. 00:24:27.450 --> 00:24:30.910 Slide 16, certification for traditional pilots-- 00:24:30.910 --> 00:24:32.080 take an online course. 00:24:32.080 --> 00:24:35.190 Apply through IACRA and you're off and running, 00:24:35.190 --> 00:24:38.530 or flying, as they say. 00:24:38.530 --> 00:24:40.240 Slide 17-- for you guys in this class, 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.550 you do have a couple options. 00:24:42.550 --> 00:24:44.750 Any private pilot license holders out here? 00:24:44.750 --> 00:24:46.310 Anyone? 00:24:46.310 --> 00:24:46.810 Hey. 00:24:46.810 --> 00:24:47.560 All right. 00:24:47.560 --> 00:24:50.800 Private pilot's license-- no exams really required. 00:24:50.800 --> 00:24:52.960 If you do not hold a private pilot's license, 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.980 you must schedule your 107 exam at your local testing center. 00:24:59.510 --> 00:25:03.610 Slide 18, we're getting back to the hobby and 107. 00:25:03.610 --> 00:25:06.370 We highlighted some of these asterisked areas here. 00:25:06.370 --> 00:25:09.555 I can talk about these a little bit more. 00:25:09.555 --> 00:25:11.305 This is all about the power of the waiver. 00:25:13.970 --> 00:25:18.070 For example, about six months back, the Discovery Channel 00:25:18.070 --> 00:25:18.970 was down here. 00:25:18.970 --> 00:25:21.290 And they asked us to do-- 00:25:21.290 --> 00:25:24.580 they had a restored Viking ship. 00:25:24.580 --> 00:25:27.880 And they were taking that Viking ship from Nova Scotia 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:29.560 and sailing it down the East Coast. 00:25:29.560 --> 00:25:31.960 And the Discovery Channel was doing this big documentary 00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:34.480 show about it and how the journey went 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.390 and the problems that they ran into. 00:25:37.390 --> 00:25:39.940 But for me, the problem I was running into 00:25:39.940 --> 00:25:42.730 is, I have to fly from a boat, which is a moving vehicle. 00:25:42.730 --> 00:25:44.410 I had to be over 400 feet. 00:25:44.410 --> 00:25:47.080 And they wanted some of those shots at night. 00:25:47.080 --> 00:25:49.607 Luckily, we had all these waivers in place. 00:25:49.607 --> 00:25:51.440 If not, we would have had to tell them, hey, 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:52.390 it's going to take two to four months 00:25:52.390 --> 00:25:53.815 for us to get these waivers. 00:25:53.815 --> 00:25:55.690 And they would have went to the next company. 00:25:55.690 --> 00:26:00.210 So it always pays to have these waivers and authorizations 00:26:00.210 --> 00:26:00.710 in place. 00:26:07.270 --> 00:26:09.360 This is embarrassing. 00:26:09.360 --> 00:26:12.810 Slide 19 is some of the recent accomplishments and projects 00:26:12.810 --> 00:26:14.460 that I've been working on. 00:26:14.460 --> 00:26:17.965 Few A-list names up there. 00:26:17.965 --> 00:26:19.590 What I can say, locally in this market, 00:26:19.590 --> 00:26:23.340 is, we have seen a major spike in TV and movie productions 00:26:23.340 --> 00:26:27.660 being made in New England, specifically in Massachusetts. 00:26:27.660 --> 00:26:29.730 It's been great for us, which is fantastic. 00:26:29.730 --> 00:26:32.460 Keeps us extremely busy, which is great. 00:26:35.750 --> 00:26:37.280 Hiring gigs are fun. 00:26:37.280 --> 00:26:39.590 They are lucrative, as well. 00:26:39.590 --> 00:26:43.070 The problem is, there is a lot of pressure. 00:26:43.070 --> 00:26:47.195 When I was doing the Equalizer 2 movie, we're flying-- 00:26:47.195 --> 00:26:48.820 we actually used this drone right here. 00:26:48.820 --> 00:26:52.490 And they wanted me to fly the thing over Denzel Washington's 00:26:52.490 --> 00:26:53.630 shoulder. 00:26:53.630 --> 00:26:56.420 And I'm saying to myself, man, one gust of wind or mistake, 00:26:56.420 --> 00:26:58.700 I could slice this guy's face open. 00:26:58.700 --> 00:27:02.870 So there is a lot of pressure associated with it. 00:27:02.870 --> 00:27:06.140 Directors and DPs-- 00:27:06.140 --> 00:27:08.330 Directors of Photography-- they want 00:27:08.330 --> 00:27:09.990 things done the first time. 00:27:09.990 --> 00:27:11.540 Time is money. 00:27:11.540 --> 00:27:13.560 Imagine if you were-- 00:27:13.560 --> 00:27:16.640 there's one time where I was chasing a motorcycle, 00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:18.530 and there were some explosions going off. 00:27:18.530 --> 00:27:20.810 It took six hours to rig those explosions. 00:27:20.810 --> 00:27:22.310 They're only going to go off once. 00:27:22.310 --> 00:27:24.310 If you mess the shot up, it's going to cost them 00:27:24.310 --> 00:27:25.440 another $6,000 to rig up. 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.842 It's going to take half a day of time to do it again. 00:27:27.842 --> 00:27:29.300 So there's a lot of pressure to get 00:27:29.300 --> 00:27:32.340 it done right the first time. 00:27:32.340 --> 00:27:35.230 But generally, these jobs are few and far between. 00:27:35.230 --> 00:27:37.940 The primary jobs that we usually do-- 00:27:37.940 --> 00:27:41.750 marketing and promotional videos, 00:27:41.750 --> 00:27:43.400 documentaries, things of that nature-- 00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:44.835 can be a little less pressure. 00:27:44.835 --> 00:27:46.460 But once you get into the upper epsilon 00:27:46.460 --> 00:27:49.370 of doing feature films and things of that nature, 00:27:49.370 --> 00:27:50.330 be on your A-game. 00:27:54.580 --> 00:27:55.080 All right. 00:27:55.080 --> 00:27:57.780 A little bit about life on set. 00:27:57.780 --> 00:28:00.630 Higher end productions, you can expect about $2,000 00:28:00.630 --> 00:28:02.835 a day per operator, which is lovely. 00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.160 Even the visual observer, making sure 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.892 that we're not hitting power lines or things of that nature, 00:28:10.892 --> 00:28:12.850 the guy's just looking up and paying attention. 00:28:12.850 --> 00:28:15.090 He's making a great day's pay there. 00:28:15.090 --> 00:28:17.490 But again, there is a lot of pressure. 00:28:17.490 --> 00:28:18.510 That $2,000 per day-- 00:28:18.510 --> 00:28:19.440 I need to note, too-- 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.660 that's not including gear rental insurance and media 00:28:21.660 --> 00:28:23.827 rental and everything else that comes along with it. 00:28:23.827 --> 00:28:26.790 So I work for a company called Above Summit, 00:28:26.790 --> 00:28:29.270 as I mentioned, here in Somerville. 00:28:29.270 --> 00:28:31.950 They're usually charging $20,000, $30,000 a day 00:28:31.950 --> 00:28:33.300 when we're on a movie. 00:28:33.300 --> 00:28:36.480 That's just a little piece of what the operators see. 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.500 We generally work in a three-man crew. 00:28:40.500 --> 00:28:43.320 When you're on TV and movies, it can be extremely humbling, 00:28:43.320 --> 00:28:44.440 as well. 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.827 A lot of times we'll nail a shot. 00:28:46.827 --> 00:28:47.910 The director will love it. 00:28:47.910 --> 00:28:49.020 Everyone will say, oh, that's great. 00:28:49.020 --> 00:28:50.340 You did such a great job. 00:28:50.340 --> 00:28:51.923 Then the TV show comes out, and you're 00:28:51.923 --> 00:28:53.190 like, where's my footage? 00:28:53.190 --> 00:28:55.050 They don't use it sometimes. 00:28:55.050 --> 00:28:57.520 And you get kind of bummed out about it. 00:28:57.520 --> 00:29:01.260 So it can be a humbling experience. 00:29:01.260 --> 00:29:04.920 You could spend weeks and hours on set, 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.100 flying, creating footage, getting them content, 00:29:08.100 --> 00:29:11.130 and barely any of it will be used. 00:29:11.130 --> 00:29:13.740 I was talking earlier about the Equalizer movie 00:29:13.740 --> 00:29:15.420 with Denzel that I did. 00:29:15.420 --> 00:29:18.090 Seven days on set-- got them roughly two hours 00:29:18.090 --> 00:29:19.020 of raw footage. 00:29:19.020 --> 00:29:21.440 And about seven seconds made the final movie. 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.000 I love the seven seconds, but wish 00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.100 there was a little bit more. 00:29:26.100 --> 00:29:28.350 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Michael, what was the 12 days on set 00:29:28.350 --> 00:29:29.940 to 12 seconds in the final cut? 00:29:29.940 --> 00:29:31.020 Which movie was that? 00:29:31.020 --> 00:29:32.130 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Oh, I think-- yeah, 00:29:32.130 --> 00:29:33.255 that was the Equalizer one. 00:29:33.255 --> 00:29:35.160 Maybe it was 12 seconds, not seven. 00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:36.810 PHILIP GREENSPUN: And why bring a book? 00:29:36.810 --> 00:29:37.490 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: I'm getting there. 00:29:37.490 --> 00:29:38.070 PHILIP GREENSPUN: OK, you're getting there. 00:29:38.070 --> 00:29:39.903 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: I'm getting there, buddy. 00:29:39.903 --> 00:29:42.420 The bring-a-book thing-- don't literally 00:29:42.420 --> 00:29:45.930 bring a book, because you'd just look pretty silly. 00:29:45.930 --> 00:29:47.760 The main point of the bring-a-book thing 00:29:47.760 --> 00:29:50.700 is, it can be extremely boring. 00:29:50.700 --> 00:29:52.200 You got to remember, the whole movie 00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:54.060 is not made with this thing. 00:29:54.060 --> 00:29:57.600 They're generally doing action sequence with the drone, 00:29:57.600 --> 00:30:01.248 tracking shots, establishing shots, top-down, 00:30:01.248 --> 00:30:02.790 where you're high up and the camera's 00:30:02.790 --> 00:30:05.380 pointed straight down-- things of that nature. 00:30:05.380 --> 00:30:09.270 But there's about 30 other camera equipment 00:30:09.270 --> 00:30:11.070 and people out there that are also 00:30:11.070 --> 00:30:12.780 getting their shots-- their ground shots 00:30:12.780 --> 00:30:14.155 and things of that nature-- which 00:30:14.155 --> 00:30:17.220 does take up the bulk of the movie or TV show or whatever. 00:30:17.220 --> 00:30:19.290 So I have found there have been times 00:30:19.290 --> 00:30:21.840 that I've been on set 12, 14 hours, 00:30:21.840 --> 00:30:24.880 and I've only flown this thing maybe 10, 20 minutes. 00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:31.050 So there is a ton of downtime, hence the Bring-a-book 00:30:31.050 --> 00:30:33.870 And sometimes it can be disappointing. 00:30:33.870 --> 00:30:40.470 Last year we did a pilot TV show for NBC called Suspicion. 00:30:40.470 --> 00:30:41.970 It was a very fun shoot. 00:30:41.970 --> 00:30:44.550 They had a stunt guy getting dragged 00:30:44.550 --> 00:30:46.920 on the back of a Cadillac Escalade. 00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:48.630 And we got to track it and film it. 00:30:48.630 --> 00:30:53.010 And we just got some incredible footage, some incredible shots. 00:30:53.010 --> 00:30:54.780 Everyone was super happy. 00:30:54.780 --> 00:30:55.600 The show wrapped. 00:30:55.600 --> 00:30:57.300 The first couple episodes of the pilot-- 00:30:57.300 --> 00:30:58.920 it gets sent off to NBC. 00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:00.420 A bunch of guys in suits were there. 00:31:00.420 --> 00:31:01.837 And they said, yeah, we hate this, 00:31:01.837 --> 00:31:03.550 and it just got scrapped altogether. 00:31:03.550 --> 00:31:05.550 And the good part is, their check still cleared, 00:31:05.550 --> 00:31:07.560 but we're not seeing any of that work. 00:31:10.950 --> 00:31:12.770 That's about it for me. 00:31:15.470 --> 00:31:17.490 How do I click this link to get it to work? 00:31:17.490 --> 00:31:19.685 Phil asked me to string together some footage 00:31:19.685 --> 00:31:21.810 that I've taken personally, so you guys can kind of 00:31:21.810 --> 00:31:23.743 see the drone in action. 00:31:23.743 --> 00:31:25.410 All the footage you're going to see here 00:31:25.410 --> 00:31:27.190 actually was not done with this drone. 00:31:27.190 --> 00:31:28.732 This is more of a professional drone. 00:31:28.732 --> 00:31:31.080 This was all done with a DJI Phantom. 00:31:31.080 --> 00:31:34.170 This is a drone that you could literally pick up 00:31:34.170 --> 00:31:38.010 at Best Buy for, like, $1,000. 00:31:38.010 --> 00:31:39.990 I like having it, just because you 00:31:39.990 --> 00:31:42.550 can throw it in the back of your car and have around. 00:31:42.550 --> 00:31:45.480 If you ever see something fun to go out and film, 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:46.950 you have it there. 00:31:46.950 --> 00:31:48.740 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Questions, questions? 00:31:48.740 --> 00:31:49.100 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Yeah, guys. 00:31:49.100 --> 00:31:50.880 Hit me with some questions while this thing is playing. 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:52.255 Anybody got any questions for me? 00:31:52.255 --> 00:31:54.690 If anyone wants to come up and play with this thing 00:31:54.690 --> 00:31:56.190 or take a look at it, feel free. 00:31:56.190 --> 00:31:57.350 What's going on, man? 00:31:57.350 --> 00:31:59.860 AUDIENCE: What is the endurance of the drone? 00:31:59.860 --> 00:32:01.610 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: This drone right here-- 00:32:01.610 --> 00:32:03.040 dual battery system. 00:32:03.040 --> 00:32:06.090 So you'll notice, it's got two. 00:32:06.090 --> 00:32:08.910 Cool thing about this particular system-- 00:32:08.910 --> 00:32:10.680 self-induced heating batteries, which 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.830 is great in the wintertime. 00:32:13.830 --> 00:32:16.270 Cold equals bad battery voltage. 00:32:16.270 --> 00:32:20.580 So with these things, heating and going, that's great. 00:32:20.580 --> 00:32:23.880 In regards to range, if you're wondering about range, 00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.060 this can go a mile up and four miles out. 00:32:27.060 --> 00:32:28.360 Do I want to do that? 00:32:28.360 --> 00:32:28.860 No. 00:32:28.860 --> 00:32:30.570 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] time? 00:32:30.570 --> 00:32:31.770 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Time? 00:32:31.770 --> 00:32:36.300 Estimated time, 22 minutes to 24, depending on load 00:32:36.300 --> 00:32:39.450 and how aggressive you're flying it. 00:32:39.450 --> 00:32:41.897 This thing has something called Sport mode or Ludicrous 00:32:41.897 --> 00:32:43.980 mode-- whatever you want to call it-- that you can 00:32:43.980 --> 00:32:45.750 get this thing up to, like, 80. 00:32:45.750 --> 00:32:48.420 And it's going to suck the juice out of the batteries real quick 00:32:48.420 --> 00:32:51.060 if you're thrusting full throttle for a while. 00:32:51.060 --> 00:32:55.830 But if you're just hovering, it could get 25, 26 minutes. 00:32:55.830 --> 00:32:57.540 Back to the range thing, yes, this thing 00:32:57.540 --> 00:32:59.190 can go a mile up and four miles out. 00:32:59.190 --> 00:33:00.660 I never like to do that. 00:33:00.660 --> 00:33:03.355 I look at this thing as a big bag of money. 00:33:03.355 --> 00:33:04.730 You want your money close to you, 00:33:04.730 --> 00:33:08.425 or you want it four miles where you can't have your eyes on it? 00:33:08.425 --> 00:33:09.550 You'd be surprised, though. 00:33:09.550 --> 00:33:11.760 A lot of people do like doing that. 00:33:11.760 --> 00:33:12.990 They call it "range testing." 00:33:12.990 --> 00:33:14.760 I call it stupidity. 00:33:14.760 --> 00:33:17.160 Let's see how far we can send the thing before it 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:21.300 has a battery failure or before it auto lands-- 00:33:21.300 --> 00:33:24.120 not something I like to screw around with, personally. 00:33:24.120 --> 00:33:26.588 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Should be up now. 00:33:26.588 --> 00:33:27.880 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Anyone else? 00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:29.030 Sir. 00:33:29.030 --> 00:33:30.780 AUDIENCE: I actually work in [INAUDIBLE].. 00:33:30.780 --> 00:33:33.300 And this fall, we had our first drone. 00:33:33.300 --> 00:33:36.440 Should we require a 107 pilot for this? 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:37.653 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: For what? 00:33:37.653 --> 00:33:39.070 AUDIENCE: For wedding photography? 00:33:39.070 --> 00:33:40.280 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Wedding photography? 00:33:40.280 --> 00:33:40.730 Yes. 00:33:40.730 --> 00:33:43.105 Anything you're going to make money or promote yourself-- 00:33:43.105 --> 00:33:43.820 107. 00:33:43.820 --> 00:33:46.308 Just think to yourself, if I'm just out having fun, 00:33:46.308 --> 00:33:47.100 I don't need a 107. 00:33:47.100 --> 00:33:48.850 AUDIENCE: We have photographers coming in. 00:33:48.850 --> 00:33:51.335 We have a $50 fee to use [INAUDIBLE] photography. 00:33:51.335 --> 00:33:54.660 And you try to tell them [INAUDIBLE].. 00:33:54.660 --> 00:33:57.170 So the photographers don't want to pay [INAUDIBLE].. 00:33:57.170 --> 00:33:58.920 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: They do need to be 107, 00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.490 or a 107 operator has to-- you can hire a guy like me 00:34:01.490 --> 00:34:03.740 to just be there and say, hey, you're doing everything 00:34:03.740 --> 00:34:04.560 on the up-and-up. 00:34:04.560 --> 00:34:05.060 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Make sure to read 00:34:05.060 --> 00:34:06.560 back the question, because-- 00:34:06.560 --> 00:34:07.250 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Oh, I'm sorry. 00:34:07.250 --> 00:34:07.850 PHILIP GREENSPUN: For the video. 00:34:07.850 --> 00:34:08.510 Yeah, no, it's fine. 00:34:08.510 --> 00:34:09.593 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Got it. 00:34:09.593 --> 00:34:11.580 Anybody else? 00:34:11.580 --> 00:34:13.469 AUDIENCE: You mentioned that you often 00:34:13.469 --> 00:34:15.531 don't see most of your footage in the final cut. 00:34:15.531 --> 00:34:16.989 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Sometimes, yeah. 00:34:19.620 --> 00:34:21.995 AUDIENCE: Are you allowed at all to publish that footage? 00:34:21.995 --> 00:34:23.526 Like, hey, this is what we didn't 00:34:23.526 --> 00:34:25.020 use in this movie [INAUDIBLE]? 00:34:25.020 --> 00:34:26.728 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: So this is what we do. 00:34:26.728 --> 00:34:30.520 So in a lot of our contracts, when we get initially 00:34:30.520 --> 00:34:33.280 approached by Columbia Pictures or Lionsgate or something 00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:36.915 of that nature, they'll send us a volume of their contract 00:34:36.915 --> 00:34:39.040 and what we're allowed to do with the footage, what 00:34:39.040 --> 00:34:39.885 we're not. 00:34:39.885 --> 00:34:41.260 It's almost like an NDA, as well. 00:34:41.260 --> 00:34:42.980 You can't post behind-the-scenes stuff. 00:34:42.980 --> 00:34:45.670 You can't blow yourself up on social media or things 00:34:45.670 --> 00:34:47.380 of that nature. 00:34:47.380 --> 00:34:50.655 Sometimes we put verbiage in there that says, hey, after-- 00:34:50.655 --> 00:34:52.030 we say we want to use the footage 00:34:52.030 --> 00:34:53.380 for our own personal promotion. 00:34:53.380 --> 00:34:54.922 What they generally come back and say 00:34:54.922 --> 00:34:57.695 is, you can do that after the movie's come out. 00:34:57.695 --> 00:34:59.320 They don't want you promoting something 00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.608 that they don't get first dibs at promoting first. 00:35:01.608 --> 00:35:03.400 So after the movie is released, usually you 00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:05.230 give it a month grace period-- 00:35:05.230 --> 00:35:07.453 that in-between period before it's on Netflix or DVD, 00:35:07.453 --> 00:35:08.620 but it's out of the theater. 00:35:08.620 --> 00:35:11.470 Then we usually feel comfortable to kind of self-promote 00:35:11.470 --> 00:35:14.270 with that footage. 00:35:14.270 --> 00:35:16.586 Anybody else? 00:35:16.586 --> 00:35:18.870 Are you guys all mesmerized by the drone footage? 00:35:18.870 --> 00:35:19.953 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Come on. 00:35:19.953 --> 00:35:21.510 [INAUDIBLE] video. 00:35:21.510 --> 00:35:22.290 Look at that. 00:35:22.290 --> 00:35:24.080 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: That was actually Big Island, Hawaii 00:35:24.080 --> 00:35:24.800 right there. 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:25.370 That's local. 00:35:25.370 --> 00:35:26.825 That's in West Boylston. 00:35:26.825 --> 00:35:28.700 PHILIP GREENSPUN: I tell people that my dream 00:35:28.700 --> 00:35:32.750 is to get as good footage out of a $400,000 helicopter 00:35:32.750 --> 00:35:36.018 as a person can get out of a $400 drone. 00:35:36.018 --> 00:35:38.060 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: The helicopter guys absolutely 00:35:38.060 --> 00:35:39.610 hate us. 00:35:39.610 --> 00:35:45.200 We are stealing their market share exponentially. 00:35:45.200 --> 00:35:47.570 Are the movie studios-- 00:35:47.570 --> 00:35:50.000 they have to hire the photographer, the pilot, 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.430 the fuel, the time, the cost, all that, 00:35:52.430 --> 00:35:54.523 or they want to hire us at a third of a cost. 00:35:54.523 --> 00:35:56.690 And we're going to get better, more dynamic footage. 00:35:56.690 --> 00:36:00.215 So doing it out of helicopters is going to the wayside. 00:36:00.215 --> 00:36:02.410 And everyone's kind of going to these machines now. 00:36:02.410 --> 00:36:03.827 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Yeah, so Michael 00:36:03.827 --> 00:36:06.510 said this was about $10,000, including the camera. 00:36:06.510 --> 00:36:08.990 There is just a piece of metal that's 00:36:08.990 --> 00:36:11.480 FAA certified through a supplemental type certificate 00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:13.040 called the Tyler Mount. 00:36:13.040 --> 00:36:14.915 And you just connect this to your helicopter, 00:36:14.915 --> 00:36:17.240 I think, landing gear or something and then 00:36:17.240 --> 00:36:19.330 put the camera on this piece of metal. 00:36:19.330 --> 00:36:21.500 And I think that piece of metal-- 00:36:21.500 --> 00:36:24.575 the cheapest ones I've ever seen are about $12,000. 00:36:24.575 --> 00:36:28.220 So just a piece of metal that has been through the approval 00:36:28.220 --> 00:36:31.790 process and all the paperwork costs more 00:36:31.790 --> 00:36:33.320 than the entire drone system. 00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:36.380 And the camera balls can be in the $400,000 or $500,000, 00:36:36.380 --> 00:36:40.220 $600,000 range that go underneath helicopters. 00:36:40.220 --> 00:36:43.130 Robinson actually makes a cool news copter. 00:36:43.130 --> 00:36:45.640 It's all FAA certified right from the factory. 00:36:45.640 --> 00:36:48.410 I think it's in the million-dollar range that 00:36:48.410 --> 00:36:51.080 has the ball and the camera and the transmitter 00:36:51.080 --> 00:36:52.640 back to the TV station. 00:36:52.640 --> 00:36:55.610 But as Michael said, do we really 00:36:55.610 --> 00:36:56.940 need those in the drone age? 00:36:56.940 --> 00:36:57.940 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Yeah. 00:36:57.940 --> 00:37:00.472 No. 00:37:00.472 --> 00:37:02.180 AUDIENCE: For the engineers [INAUDIBLE],, 00:37:02.180 --> 00:37:03.722 what sort of features or capabilities 00:37:03.722 --> 00:37:06.048 would you like to see in the next generation of drones? 00:37:06.048 --> 00:37:08.090 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: The next generation of drones, 00:37:08.090 --> 00:37:11.270 what capabilities would I like to see? 00:37:11.270 --> 00:37:14.150 I'm currently, right now, talking to a bunch of people-- 00:37:14.150 --> 00:37:16.610 I guess not capability, but they're doing a lot 00:37:16.610 --> 00:37:18.075 with augmented reality. 00:37:18.075 --> 00:37:20.450 And I think you're going to see a lot of that coming out. 00:37:20.450 --> 00:37:21.770 I'm sure you guys have heard of-- 00:37:21.770 --> 00:37:23.520 and I'm going to sound really nerdy here-- 00:37:23.520 --> 00:37:25.740 but Pokemon Go on your cell phone. 00:37:25.740 --> 00:37:28.770 And you can see the little Pokemon guys running around. 00:37:28.770 --> 00:37:31.400 Now, imagine if I wanted to train somebody 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:33.410 on how to properly fly a drone. 00:37:33.410 --> 00:37:36.668 Then I could put these rings or circles or maybe 00:37:36.668 --> 00:37:38.210 directions on the screen when they're 00:37:38.210 --> 00:37:42.440 flying to go through the hoop and make a figure 8 or things 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:42.960 like that. 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.740 So I think we're going to see a lot of augmented reality 00:37:45.740 --> 00:37:48.610 stuff coming in and things of that nature. 00:37:48.610 --> 00:37:50.330 Also, they're making them smaller. 00:37:50.330 --> 00:37:52.370 That's another big thing. 00:37:52.370 --> 00:37:55.940 And they're making them more diverse with image systems. 00:37:55.940 --> 00:37:57.440 What you can mount-- 00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.660 being able to mount something smaller, more powerful. 00:38:00.660 --> 00:38:02.780 They have cameras now that have hundred-time zoom 00:38:02.780 --> 00:38:03.965 on one end of the camera. 00:38:03.965 --> 00:38:05.840 And then on the other end, they have thermal. 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:07.840 So you can switch back and forth between the two 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:09.050 on the same drone. 00:38:09.050 --> 00:38:12.050 So things of that nature-- kind of making them more efficient. 00:38:12.050 --> 00:38:14.305 And battery time, as well-- that's a big thing. 00:38:14.305 --> 00:38:15.680 People want drones that are going 00:38:15.680 --> 00:38:18.517 to fly for hours, not minutes. 00:38:18.517 --> 00:38:20.600 So I think you're going to see a big push in that. 00:38:24.051 --> 00:38:24.962 Sir, go ahead. 00:38:24.962 --> 00:38:26.420 AUDIENCE: Sort of in the same vein, 00:38:26.420 --> 00:38:29.840 in terms of controlability and autonomy, 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.030 what does the standard control look like? 00:38:32.030 --> 00:38:33.040 Is it just two sticks? 00:38:33.040 --> 00:38:34.915 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Yeah, sticks [INAUDIBLE].. 00:38:34.915 --> 00:38:36.980 I've got a couple right up here. 00:38:36.980 --> 00:38:38.630 This is it. 00:38:38.630 --> 00:38:39.687 These are controllers. 00:38:39.687 --> 00:38:40.520 I'll level with you. 00:38:40.520 --> 00:38:42.853 If any of you guys have ever played first-person shooter 00:38:42.853 --> 00:38:44.640 games on Playstation, it's about the same. 00:38:47.300 --> 00:38:50.827 One remote for the pilot, one remote for cam op. 00:38:50.827 --> 00:38:52.910 PHILIP GREENSPUN: It's the same remote, basically? 00:38:52.910 --> 00:38:54.200 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: It's the same principle 00:38:54.200 --> 00:38:56.593 if you're playing a first-person shooter, left and right 00:38:56.593 --> 00:38:57.260 on the joystick. 00:38:57.260 --> 00:39:00.290 PHILIP GREENSPUN: But camera operator and drone operator 00:39:00.290 --> 00:39:01.700 get the same physical remote? 00:39:01.700 --> 00:39:02.140 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Correct. 00:39:02.140 --> 00:39:02.820 PHILIP GREENSPUN: OK. 00:39:02.820 --> 00:39:03.945 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Correct. 00:39:06.798 --> 00:39:08.473 Does that answer the question for you? 00:39:08.473 --> 00:39:10.265 AUDIENCE: Well, the follow-on question was, 00:39:10.265 --> 00:39:14.102 in terms of where do you see things going or capabilities 00:39:14.102 --> 00:39:17.123 wanted by customer, in terms of autonomy, would it be better-- 00:39:17.123 --> 00:39:18.290 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: So thank. 00:39:18.290 --> 00:39:19.280 You thank you for reminding me. 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:20.613 The keyword there is "autonomy." 00:39:20.613 --> 00:39:22.365 So there are different programs. 00:39:22.365 --> 00:39:23.990 Now, I don't use them personally a lot, 00:39:23.990 --> 00:39:26.930 because my application is more cinematic and doing 00:39:26.930 --> 00:39:30.320 things of that nature, which I like to fly manually. 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.840 There's more feathering and kind of finesse to that. 00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:38.000 But a lot of people that are doing industrial, 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.830 like surveying and things of that nature-- 00:39:40.830 --> 00:39:42.843 this thing is as powerful as it gets. 00:39:42.843 --> 00:39:44.510 There's a program called Litchi that you 00:39:44.510 --> 00:39:47.900 can attach to this drone that you can run off their operating 00:39:47.900 --> 00:39:48.770 platform. 00:39:48.770 --> 00:39:51.650 You can put waypoints in and say, all right, 00:39:51.650 --> 00:39:53.180 go to point A at 50 feet. 00:39:53.180 --> 00:39:54.050 Snap a photo. 00:39:54.050 --> 00:39:55.100 Then go 20 feet up. 00:39:55.100 --> 00:39:56.220 Go to the right 100 feet. 00:39:56.220 --> 00:39:58.190 Then take a video, and then go down. 00:39:58.190 --> 00:40:00.087 So you can pre-program these things. 00:40:00.087 --> 00:40:01.170 A lot of my buddies do it. 00:40:01.170 --> 00:40:02.210 They make great money. 00:40:02.210 --> 00:40:05.870 And all they do is, they program the grid into the drone, 00:40:05.870 --> 00:40:07.370 they hit Go, and then they sit back, 00:40:07.370 --> 00:40:09.802 and they watch the thing do the job for them. 00:40:09.802 --> 00:40:12.260 And there is-- there's great money in the industrial sector 00:40:12.260 --> 00:40:13.490 with these things-- 00:40:13.490 --> 00:40:16.920 with autonomous flights and things of that nature. 00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:19.460 The only time I've ever used waypoints is to do something 00:40:19.460 --> 00:40:23.448 called a hyperlapse, if anyone knows about photo or video. 00:40:23.448 --> 00:40:25.490 A time lapse is something where you take a photo, 00:40:25.490 --> 00:40:27.823 then you move the camera, take a photo, move the camera, 00:40:27.823 --> 00:40:28.680 take a photo. 00:40:28.680 --> 00:40:33.050 A hyperlapse is when you include motion in something like that. 00:40:33.050 --> 00:40:34.490 Waypoint feature is great. 00:40:34.490 --> 00:40:37.990 We put a waypoint at point A. And then 00:40:37.990 --> 00:40:40.610 300 feet away, we put point B. And we 00:40:40.610 --> 00:40:43.160 say, every two seconds from A to B, take a photo 00:40:43.160 --> 00:40:44.368 and go to this straight line. 00:40:44.368 --> 00:40:45.993 Then we string all the photos together, 00:40:45.993 --> 00:40:48.020 and you get a cool, little hyperlapse effect. 00:40:48.020 --> 00:40:51.050 So sometimes we use the autonomy. 00:40:51.050 --> 00:40:54.110 Honestly, the enjoyment, for me, is flying manually. 00:40:54.110 --> 00:40:56.210 I don't want to just enter in a bunch of data 00:40:56.210 --> 00:40:57.770 and say, OK, go do your job. 00:40:57.770 --> 00:41:01.410 I'd rather be on the controls and having fun with it. 00:41:01.410 --> 00:41:03.250 So hope that answers your question. 00:41:03.250 --> 00:41:03.750 Sir. 00:41:03.750 --> 00:41:06.170 AUDIENCE: Yeah, I was going to [INAUDIBLE].. 00:41:09.787 --> 00:41:11.870 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Some guys in the studio, again, 00:41:11.870 --> 00:41:14.750 who do the industrial kind of stuff-- yes, they'll utilize 00:41:14.750 --> 00:41:16.340 the functions for autonomy. 00:41:16.340 --> 00:41:19.312 But again, personally, I just don't. 00:41:19.312 --> 00:41:20.270 I like flying manually. 00:41:20.270 --> 00:41:20.860 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Over here, Michael. 00:41:20.860 --> 00:41:21.100 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Sir. 00:41:21.100 --> 00:41:23.590 AUDIENCE: How much flying experience do you need 00:41:23.590 --> 00:41:29.780 to [INAUDIBLE] and do the close shots that you-- 00:41:29.780 --> 00:41:31.280 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: That's up to you. 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.610 That literally is how comfortable you are with it. 00:41:33.610 --> 00:41:36.990 Some people I know never take the obstacle avoidance off. 00:41:36.990 --> 00:41:38.710 They think it's there for a reason. 00:41:38.710 --> 00:41:41.730 They don't need to get that really tight, close-in shot. 00:41:41.730 --> 00:41:44.772 A lot of people just do what we call high and wide. 00:41:44.772 --> 00:41:46.230 You just fly the thing up 300 feet. 00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:48.772 You get a nice landscape view or whatever you're looking for, 00:41:48.772 --> 00:41:51.010 and you have the collision on for that or whatever. 00:41:51.010 --> 00:41:54.600 But again, you probably saw some of those close shots 00:41:54.600 --> 00:41:57.000 I had in that video. 00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:59.910 You can't obtain that with the avoidance system on. 00:41:59.910 --> 00:42:02.680 Me, personally, I think within three weeks I turned them off, 00:42:02.680 --> 00:42:03.180 man. 00:42:03.180 --> 00:42:04.560 I was like, this is not for me. 00:42:04.560 --> 00:42:06.000 I just wanted to jam on the thing 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.125 and get some great footage. 00:42:07.125 --> 00:42:11.677 So the safety was impeding it a little bit for me. 00:42:11.677 --> 00:42:12.885 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Behind you. 00:42:12.885 --> 00:42:14.843 AUDIENCE: I just wanted some more clarification 00:42:14.843 --> 00:42:16.980 about [INAUDIBLE]. 00:42:16.980 --> 00:42:19.840 You said 400 feet was the maximum height 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:21.372 that I can fly [INAUDIBLE]. 00:42:21.372 --> 00:42:22.830 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Well, not that-- 00:42:22.830 --> 00:42:24.960 it can fly well over 400 feet. 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:28.500 But you're only allowed to fly up to 400 feet. 00:42:28.500 --> 00:42:30.990 AUDIENCE: Can I be flying in my neighborhood's backyard? 00:42:30.990 --> 00:42:32.070 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Sure. 00:42:32.070 --> 00:42:34.990 The funny thing is, why do you want to, though? 00:42:34.990 --> 00:42:36.990 Why do you want to be three feet off the ground, 00:42:36.990 --> 00:42:38.940 risking your couple thousand-dollar piece 00:42:38.940 --> 00:42:41.148 of equipment when you can just take a handheld camera 00:42:41.148 --> 00:42:43.057 and walk? 00:42:43.057 --> 00:42:45.503 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 00:42:45.503 --> 00:42:46.670 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Oh, yeah. 00:42:46.670 --> 00:42:47.260 Oh, yeah. 00:42:47.260 --> 00:42:48.910 You saw in some of the shots there. 00:42:48.910 --> 00:42:52.240 I'm skimming waves at a foot off the waves, skimming them. 00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:54.010 So yeah, you can fly really low. 00:42:54.010 --> 00:42:57.760 Again, you have to have your sensors off for that, though. 00:42:57.760 --> 00:42:59.783 The sensor systems that are on these things 00:42:59.783 --> 00:43:01.450 will say, what are you doing, you idiot? 00:43:01.450 --> 00:43:03.460 Don't fly me like this. 00:43:03.460 --> 00:43:07.482 So in order to achieve it, you have to shut them off. 00:43:07.482 --> 00:43:12.320 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] So if you're three feet off 00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:14.870 the ground in your neighbor's backyard, 00:43:14.870 --> 00:43:17.780 is that considered your neighbor's property? 00:43:17.780 --> 00:43:19.720 Are they allowed to not let you-- 00:43:19.720 --> 00:43:24.110 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Yeah, that's a slippery, slippery slope-- 00:43:24.110 --> 00:43:26.530 the privacy laws and things of that nature. 00:43:26.530 --> 00:43:29.260 A lot of the bad press that drones get-- 00:43:29.260 --> 00:43:31.690 like, oh, I was sunbathing in my backyard, 00:43:31.690 --> 00:43:34.210 and I saw a drone way up in the sky. 00:43:34.210 --> 00:43:36.237 And they're invading my privacy. 00:43:36.237 --> 00:43:38.320 And it's just like, well, really think about that. 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:39.640 You look like a little ant. 00:43:39.640 --> 00:43:43.170 How much privacy am I really invading? 00:43:43.170 --> 00:43:45.193 Hand-held cameras with telescopic lens 00:43:45.193 --> 00:43:47.360 are going to invade more privacy than this thing is. 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:50.140 PHILIP GREENSPUN: So I think it's an evolving legal area. 00:43:50.140 --> 00:43:53.980 The classical law has been that the airspace 00:43:53.980 --> 00:43:55.420 belongs to the public. 00:43:55.420 --> 00:43:57.590 Only the FAA can regulate it. 00:43:57.590 --> 00:43:58.840 But that's been eroded. 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.195 I think a few states have been passing anti-drone laws-- 00:44:02.195 --> 00:44:03.820 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: They've been trying. 00:44:03.820 --> 00:44:04.730 PHILIP GREENSPUN: --of various kinds. 00:44:04.730 --> 00:44:05.980 So I don't think it's a-- 00:44:05.980 --> 00:44:07.480 I think it's an untested legal area. 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:09.150 There was a question over here. 00:44:09.150 --> 00:44:13.130 AUDIENCE: So the main aviation has the ADS-B by 2020. 00:44:13.130 --> 00:44:15.097 Did drones have the upgrade [INAUDIBLE]?? 00:44:15.097 --> 00:44:16.930 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: They're talking about it. 00:44:16.930 --> 00:44:18.940 PHILIP GREENSPUN: Repeat the question, please. 00:44:18.940 --> 00:44:19.990 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: I don't know the acronym. 00:44:19.990 --> 00:44:20.610 What's the acronym again? 00:44:20.610 --> 00:44:21.820 PHILIP GREENSPUN: ADSB. 00:44:21.820 --> 00:44:23.350 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Yeah, fixed wing 00:44:23.350 --> 00:44:26.380 has to have ADSB installed by 2020. 00:44:26.380 --> 00:44:29.800 So the question was, are drones going to have to have them? 00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:31.388 The problem with it right now is, 00:44:31.388 --> 00:44:33.430 they don't make them lightweight and small enough 00:44:33.430 --> 00:44:34.662 to equip on these things. 00:44:34.662 --> 00:44:36.370 When they do and the technology is there, 00:44:36.370 --> 00:44:38.120 I'm willing to bet you're going to see it. 00:44:38.120 --> 00:44:39.190 Yep, absolutely. 00:44:39.190 --> 00:44:41.290 The problem is the weight. 00:44:41.290 --> 00:44:42.790 You can't throw that extra weight in 00:44:42.790 --> 00:44:45.820 and get any kind of viable performance out of it with them 00:44:45.820 --> 00:44:46.570 right now. 00:44:46.570 --> 00:44:48.040 But as the technology gets better 00:44:48.040 --> 00:44:49.660 and they make those things smaller, 00:44:49.660 --> 00:44:51.452 I'm willing to bet you're going to see them 00:44:51.452 --> 00:44:52.360 on every single one. 00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:52.946 Yep. 00:44:52.946 --> 00:44:55.154 AUDIENCE: The guy sitting to your right [INAUDIBLE].. 00:44:56.793 --> 00:44:59.210 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Can you do that [INAUDIBLE] really slow 00:44:59.210 --> 00:44:59.710 for me? 00:45:03.510 --> 00:45:05.470 Anybody else? 00:45:05.470 --> 00:45:05.985 Sir. 00:45:05.985 --> 00:45:07.985 AUDIENCE: When you're piloting, how much are you 00:45:07.985 --> 00:45:09.993 looking out at the drone versus looking-- 00:45:09.993 --> 00:45:11.410 MICHAEL HOLZWARTH: Great question. 00:45:11.410 --> 00:45:13.250 Great question. 00:45:13.250 --> 00:45:16.210 I've seen so many people crash their drone because they are-- 00:45:16.210 --> 00:45:19.600 I call them screen warriors. 00:45:19.600 --> 00:45:22.360 They got their control here, and they got their iPad mounted. 00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:23.527 And they can see everything. 00:45:23.527 --> 00:45:25.810 And they're, oh, my god, this is so great. 00:45:25.810 --> 00:45:28.767 Boom, they hit a tree. 00:45:28.767 --> 00:45:29.850 Why did they hit the tree? 00:45:29.850 --> 00:45:31.477 Because the camera-- now, this drone 00:45:31.477 --> 00:45:32.560 is a little bit different. 00:45:32.560 --> 00:45:35.110 When this drone takes off, this landing gear actually 00:45:35.110 --> 00:45:37.360 raises up above the body here. 00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.295 So this camera down here can spin 360 00:45:40.295 --> 00:45:41.920 without getting the legs in the footage 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:43.640 or anything of that nature. 00:45:43.640 --> 00:45:46.892 But your general consumer drone, when 00:45:46.892 --> 00:45:48.850 you're looking at your iPad when you're flying, 00:45:48.850 --> 00:45:51.230 you're seeing what the camera sees, which is great. 00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:53.530 But what you're not seeing is your peripheral. 00:45:53.530 --> 00:45:56.837 You're not seeing that your props are out this far. 00:45:56.837 --> 00:45:59.170 And if you're just sitting there, looking at the screen, 00:45:59.170 --> 00:46:00.740 you'll end up clipping something. 00:46:00.740 --> 00:46:01.990 You'll end up doing something. 00:46:01.990 --> 00:46:04.650 My general rule of thumb, if I'm flying by myself-- 00:46:04.650 --> 00:46:05.620 I set up a shot. 00:46:05.620 --> 00:46:06.790 I look at the screen. 00:46:06.790 --> 00:46:08.832 A lot of times, though-- and this just comes with 00:46:08.832 --> 00:46:09.850 experience-- 00:46:09.850 --> 00:46:12.885 I can look at the drone and know what the camera's seeing. 00:46:12.885 --> 00:46:14.260 In a professional setting, that's 00:46:14.260 --> 00:46:16.390 why you have a multi-person crew, why 00:46:16.390 --> 00:46:19.990 you have a visual observer, because a lot of the times when 00:46:19.990 --> 00:46:22.240 you're getting paid and you're under pressure and time 00:46:22.240 --> 00:46:23.830 crunched to get the shot, your head 00:46:23.830 --> 00:46:25.810 needs to be dug into that screen. 00:46:25.810 --> 00:46:28.000 And that's why you need radio communication 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.160 with a visual observer to say, hey, you're clear. 00:46:30.160 --> 00:46:31.720 No obstruction 25 yards. 00:46:31.720 --> 00:46:35.370 Have at it or whatever the case may be. 00:46:35.370 --> 00:46:38.230 But flying for fun by yourself, my advice would be, 00:46:38.230 --> 00:46:40.330 look up at your bird every now and again. 00:46:40.330 --> 00:46:42.880 I've also had people that have flown and then been 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.378 like, well, wait, where is it? 00:46:45.378 --> 00:46:47.920 Because, again, these things can go a mile up and a mile out. 00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.920 And all the sudden, they're like, wait a second, 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:51.400 where'd my drone go? 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:55.060 Now, luckily, for lack of better terms-- 00:46:55.060 --> 00:46:56.170 and excuse my language-- 00:46:56.170 --> 00:46:57.503 I call it the "oh, shit" button. 00:46:57.503 --> 00:46:59.680 But there's a button right here. 00:46:59.680 --> 00:47:02.140 So when I turn the drone on, what it does is, 00:47:02.140 --> 00:47:03.610 it communicates to satellites. 00:47:03.610 --> 00:47:06.370 It marks a GPS home point. 00:47:06.370 --> 00:47:10.527 Now, if I'm being an idiot and I'm sending it out a mile away, 00:47:10.527 --> 00:47:12.110 the drone is smart enough to say, hey, 00:47:12.110 --> 00:47:13.960 I only have enough battery percentage 00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:15.670 to get back to your home point. 00:47:15.670 --> 00:47:17.810 And it will kick me off the controls altogether, 00:47:17.810 --> 00:47:20.800 and it will fly itself back and land right where you took off. 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.050 Same function as, where'd my drone go? 00:47:23.050 --> 00:47:23.770 I can't find it. 00:47:23.770 --> 00:47:25.300 If I really needed to, you hit that button, 00:47:25.300 --> 00:47:26.890 and the thing will fly itself back. 00:47:26.890 --> 00:47:30.040 Now, if you utilize that function-- 00:47:30.040 --> 00:47:32.050 this is getting back to the sensors and things 00:47:32.050 --> 00:47:33.350 of that nature. 00:47:33.350 --> 00:47:35.530 If you have your sensors turned off, 00:47:35.530 --> 00:47:38.710 you're in trouble, because what the drone is going to do 00:47:38.710 --> 00:47:43.240 is take its most direct path back to your home point. 00:47:43.240 --> 00:47:45.070 If there is a building in the way, 00:47:45.070 --> 00:47:47.650 it will hit the building if your sensors are off. 00:47:47.650 --> 00:47:49.150 Now, if your sensors are on-- 00:47:49.150 --> 00:47:50.650 I actually have this set up to where 00:47:50.650 --> 00:47:55.630 if Return-to-Home function kicks in, the sensors turn on. 00:47:55.630 --> 00:47:57.340 And then I also have it set up to where 00:47:57.340 --> 00:47:59.230 if it meets an obstruction-- let's say 00:47:59.230 --> 00:48:00.275 there's a building here. 00:48:00.275 --> 00:48:01.900 Oh, no, I don't know where my drone is. 00:48:01.900 --> 00:48:04.570 I hit Return-to-Home, and it comes towards the building. 00:48:04.570 --> 00:48:07.630 It will sense it, and it will raise altitude 00:48:07.630 --> 00:48:08.620 until it clears it. 00:48:08.620 --> 00:48:10.600 And then it will clear it and continue on back 00:48:10.600 --> 00:48:12.890 to the home point. 00:48:12.890 --> 00:48:16.180 I never like to rely on Return-to-Home, though. 00:48:16.180 --> 00:48:17.110 Never. 00:48:17.110 --> 00:48:18.500 I don't feel comfortable with it. 00:48:18.500 --> 00:48:21.580 I like knowing-- again, using the bag of money situation, 00:48:21.580 --> 00:48:23.800 I like knowing where my bag of money is at. 00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.737 I don't want it to get away from me. 00:48:26.737 --> 00:48:28.570 You guys can come up and pick this thing up. 00:48:28.570 --> 00:48:30.040 It has some weight to it. 00:48:30.040 --> 00:48:31.990 If this thing fell 400 feet and hit somebody, 00:48:31.990 --> 00:48:32.900 they're in trouble. 00:48:32.900 --> 00:48:34.130 You're in trouble. 00:48:34.130 --> 00:48:37.100 So it behooves you to always have a set of eyes on it 00:48:37.100 --> 00:48:40.860 and pay attention to everything you're doing there.