1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,920 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:07,410 PROFESSOR: Hi. 3 00:00:07,410 --> 00:00:09,150 Welcome back to recitation. 4 00:00:09,150 --> 00:00:11,990 In lecture, you learned about some new tools for computing 5 00:00:11,990 --> 00:00:12,650 certain limits. 6 00:00:12,650 --> 00:00:15,720 In particular, you learned about l'Hopital's rule. 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,520 So now you have the ability to compute easily some limits 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,410 that before might have been difficult to do. 9 00:00:20,410 --> 00:00:25,430 So I have here four examples of limits, some of which-- 10 00:00:25,430 --> 00:00:28,150 or maybe all of which, or maybe none of which or, well 11 00:00:28,150 --> 00:00:31,850 definitely some of which-- will be, you could use 12 00:00:31,850 --> 00:00:33,110 l'Hopital's rule on. 13 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:34,440 So here they are. 14 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,875 Why do you pause the video and take a few minutes to work 15 00:00:38,875 --> 00:00:41,000 them all out, come back, and we can work them out together. 16 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:49,890 17 00:00:49,890 --> 00:00:50,640 Welcome back. 18 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,420 So we have these four limits here. 19 00:00:53,420 --> 00:00:56,660 And let's start solving them, shall we? 20 00:00:56,660 --> 00:01:01,320 So I'll just go from the first one, and then I'll, you know, 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,500 go through them in order. 22 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:08,205 So limit a is the limit as x goes to 1 of x to the a minus 23 00:01:08,205 --> 00:01:10,590 1 over x to the b minus 1. 24 00:01:10,590 --> 00:01:13,690 If we want to use l'Hopital's rule, we have to first check 25 00:01:13,690 --> 00:01:16,300 that this is a limit of an appropriate kind of 26 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:16,880 expression. 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,870 So that's, in particular, a limit that is a 0 over 0 or 28 00:01:21,870 --> 00:01:26,500 infinity over infinity form, so an indeterminate quotient. 29 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:30,220 And as x goes to 1, we see that x to the a goes to 1. 30 00:01:30,220 --> 00:01:32,300 So x to the a minus 1 goes to 0. 31 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:34,950 And similarly x to the b goes to 1, so x to the b 32 00:01:34,950 --> 00:01:36,360 minus 1 goes to 0. 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,780 So indeed, this is a 0 over 0 indeterminate form, so we can 34 00:01:40,780 --> 00:01:42,230 apply l'Hopital's rule. 35 00:01:42,230 --> 00:01:44,590 So we apply l'Hopital's rule. 36 00:01:44,590 --> 00:01:50,950 And it says that the limit as x goes to 1 of x to the a 37 00:01:50,950 --> 00:01:54,970 minus 1 over x to the b minus 1. 38 00:01:54,970 --> 00:01:56,700 OK, so what do we do? 39 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:59,690 What l'Hopital's rule says is we can take the derivative of 40 00:01:59,690 --> 00:02:02,750 the top and the derivative of the bottom, and then the limit 41 00:02:02,750 --> 00:02:07,230 of the left side will be equal to the limit of the result 42 00:02:07,230 --> 00:02:11,150 provided the result actually has an existing limit, either 43 00:02:11,150 --> 00:02:14,230 a real number or infinity or minus infinity. 44 00:02:14,230 --> 00:02:17,710 So in this case, this says that this expression is equal 45 00:02:17,710 --> 00:02:22,030 to the limits-- so it's the same limit-- as x goes 1 of-- 46 00:02:22,030 --> 00:02:28,830 OK, so the derivative of the top is ax to the a minus 1, 47 00:02:28,830 --> 00:02:33,680 and the derivative of the bottom is bx to the b minus 1. 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,710 So l'Hopital's rule says that these two limits are equal 49 00:02:36,710 --> 00:02:39,550 provided that the second limit exists. 50 00:02:39,550 --> 00:02:42,380 So what is the second limit? 51 00:02:42,380 --> 00:02:43,690 Well, we, OK, we can do some simplifications here. 52 00:02:43,690 --> 00:02:46,250 Here there wasn't, you know, a lot of obvious 53 00:02:46,250 --> 00:02:47,220 simplifying to be done. 54 00:02:47,220 --> 00:02:49,640 But here there's an obvious simplification step. 55 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:55,080 So this is equal to the limit as x goes to 1. 56 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,720 So a over b is just a constant. 57 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:03,380 And now the powers of x, this is x to the a minus b. 58 00:03:03,380 --> 00:03:07,350 But as x goes to 1, x to the a minus b goes to 1 no matter 59 00:03:07,350 --> 00:03:08,410 what a and b are. 60 00:03:08,410 --> 00:03:10,980 So at this point, this isn't an indeterminate form anymore. 61 00:03:10,980 --> 00:03:13,200 This is nice simple limit we can just plug in. 62 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,520 So this is just equal to a over b. 63 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,300 OK so that's part a, straightforward application of 64 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:22,260 l'Hopital's rule. 65 00:03:22,260 --> 00:03:24,000 Let's go look it part b. 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,630 So part b asks us for the limit as x goes to 0 of 67 00:03:27,630 --> 00:03:29,890 sine 5x over x. 68 00:03:29,890 --> 00:03:34,320 So I'll put that right here, maybe I'll 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,660 draw a little border. 70 00:03:37,660 --> 00:03:47,550 So the limit as x goes to 0 of sine of 5x divided by x. 71 00:03:47,550 --> 00:03:53,170 So again there's a question of, you know, is this limit, 72 00:03:53,170 --> 00:03:54,560 do we know what it is already? 73 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:54,930 and? 74 00:03:54,930 --> 00:03:56,470 The answer is, maybe we do and maybe we don't, 75 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:58,210 but suppose we don't. 76 00:03:58,210 --> 00:04:01,500 So in that case, can we apply l'Hopital's rule? 77 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:05,520 Well we check, and as x goes to 0, sine of 5x. 78 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,690 So as x goes to 0, 5x goes to 0, so sine of 5x goes to 0, 79 00:04:09,690 --> 00:04:11,480 and x goes to 0. 80 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,250 So this is another 0 over 0 form. 81 00:04:14,250 --> 00:04:15,980 So we can apply l'Hopital's rule. 82 00:04:15,980 --> 00:04:21,930 So l'Hopital's rule says that this is equal to the limit as 83 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:23,360 x goes to 0 of-- 84 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,220 we take the derivative of the top and divide by the 85 00:04:25,220 --> 00:04:26,640 derivative of the bottom. 86 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:32,060 So the derivative of the top is just 5 cosine 5x. 87 00:04:32,060 --> 00:04:35,930 And the derivative of the bottom is 1. 88 00:04:35,930 --> 00:04:37,850 So l'Hopital's rule says the limit here is equal to the 89 00:04:37,850 --> 00:04:40,000 limit here provided this limit exists. 90 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,300 And now as x goes to 0, well, OK, 5, 1 is constant. 91 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:47,840 So we're just looking at the limit of cosine 5x here. 92 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:51,750 As x goes to 0, that just approaches 5 times cosine of 93 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:52,842 0, which is 1. 94 00:04:52,842 --> 00:04:54,970 So this is equal to-- sorry-- 95 00:04:54,970 --> 00:04:56,735 the cosine of the 0 part is 1. 96 00:04:56,735 --> 00:05:01,130 So it's 5 times 1, which is 5. 97 00:05:01,130 --> 00:05:04,360 Now I should note that we didn't actually really need 98 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,810 l'Hopital's rule for this one. 99 00:05:05,810 --> 00:05:09,430 One thing you can remember is that this limit is actually 100 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:12,180 the definition of the derivative of sine of 101 00:05:12,180 --> 00:05:14,390 5x at x equals 0. 102 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:18,680 So what we just did with l'Hopital's rule was use the 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,040 derivative to compute the derivative, if you like. 104 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,850 So we used the fact that we already knew the derivative in 105 00:05:24,850 --> 00:05:26,200 order to compute it. 106 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,790 We could also just say by definition, this is the 107 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:34,610 derivative of sine 5x at 0, which is 5 cosine of 0, which 108 00:05:34,610 --> 00:05:35,820 is 1, which is 5, rather. 109 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:38,940 OK so that's part b. 110 00:05:38,940 --> 00:05:48,880 Now part c asks for the limit as x goes to 0 of x squared 111 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,670 minus 6x plus 2-- did do that right-- 112 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:57,130 over x plus 1. 113 00:05:57,130 --> 00:06:01,090 So this limit, you can't apply l'Hopital's rule? 114 00:06:01,090 --> 00:06:02,510 Why can't you apply l'Hopital's rule? 115 00:06:02,510 --> 00:06:05,290 Well, because it's not an indeterminate form. 116 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:08,290 This limit is really easy to compute. 117 00:06:08,290 --> 00:06:10,460 You can just plug in x equals 0 here. 118 00:06:10,460 --> 00:06:13,560 The top is going to 2, and the bottom is going to 1. 119 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,365 So the whole limit is going to 2 divided by 1, which is 2. 120 00:06:16,365 --> 00:06:22,080 So there's no, not only, you don't need l'Hopital's rule, 121 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,350 and also you can't apply l'Hopital's rule. 122 00:06:24,350 --> 00:06:27,380 This is not a form in which l'Hopital's rule applies. 123 00:06:27,380 --> 00:06:33,010 It's not an indeterminate form, OK, so, but OK, but the 124 00:06:33,010 --> 00:06:35,730 result is very easy to compete. 125 00:06:35,730 --> 00:06:36,740 So that's 2. 126 00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:46,850 And we've got our last one now which is d, the limit as x 127 00:06:46,850 --> 00:06:55,720 goes to infinity of ln of 1 plus e to the 3x quantity 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:01,690 divided by 2x packs plus 5. 129 00:07:01,690 --> 00:07:05,620 OK, well is it obvious what this limit is? 130 00:07:05,620 --> 00:07:08,090 Not to me. 131 00:07:08,090 --> 00:07:11,560 So OK, so then we can check. 132 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:12,810 It's a quotient. 133 00:07:12,810 --> 00:07:14,290 So can we apply l'Hopital's rule? 134 00:07:14,290 --> 00:07:15,890 Well we can apply l'Hopital's rule if it's an 135 00:07:15,890 --> 00:07:17,640 indeterminate quotient. 136 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,050 So what's happening is x goes to infinity? 137 00:07:20,050 --> 00:07:21,780 Well, let's do the bottom first, because that's easy. 138 00:07:21,780 --> 00:07:25,780 As x goes to infinity, 2x plus 5 goes to infinity. 139 00:07:25,780 --> 00:07:27,850 And, OK, as x goes to infinity, e to 140 00:07:27,850 --> 00:07:30,830 the 3x goes to infinity. 141 00:07:30,830 --> 00:07:33,480 So 1 plus e to the 3x goes to infinity. 142 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,390 So log of 1 plus 3 to the 3x goes to infinity. 143 00:07:37,390 --> 00:07:39,980 So this is an infinity over infinity form. 144 00:07:39,980 --> 00:07:42,530 That's an indeterminate form, an indeterminate quotient. 145 00:07:42,530 --> 00:07:44,390 So we can apply l'Hopital's rule. 146 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:48,030 So l'Hopital's rule says that this is equal to the limit of 147 00:07:48,030 --> 00:07:53,920 the quotient of the ratio of the derivatives, provided that 148 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,590 that limit exists. 149 00:07:55,590 --> 00:08:03,010 So this is equal to the limit as x goes to infinity of-- 150 00:08:03,010 --> 00:08:05,470 OK, so we need to look at the ratio of the derivatives. 151 00:08:05,470 --> 00:08:07,620 So the bottom one is easy. 152 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:08,560 That's 2. 153 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,720 For the top one, to compute this derivative, we need to 154 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,730 use the chain rule here. 155 00:08:12,730 --> 00:08:15,610 So you take the derivative of this, and you 156 00:08:15,610 --> 00:08:17,270 get, well, a log. 157 00:08:17,270 --> 00:08:23,240 So on the bottom we get 1 plus e to the 3x. 158 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:30,050 And then by the chain rule, up top you get 3e to the 3x. 159 00:08:30,050 --> 00:08:32,980 Or, just rewriting this a little bit in a nicer form, 160 00:08:32,980 --> 00:08:43,480 this is the limit as x goes to infinity of 3 over 2 times e 161 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:49,920 to the 3x over 1 plus e to the 3x. 162 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,190 All right, so now the question is what do we do from here? 163 00:08:52,190 --> 00:08:55,560 Well is this limit obvious? 164 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:59,470 Well, OK, so there are two situations here. 165 00:08:59,470 --> 00:09:02,250 One is, you might look at this and you might already know 166 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:03,450 what this limit is. 167 00:09:03,450 --> 00:09:05,390 The reason you might know that, is that x goes to 168 00:09:05,390 --> 00:09:10,270 infinity, e to the 3x is going to infinity, and 1 plus e to 169 00:09:10,270 --> 00:09:11,610 the 3x is going to infinity. 170 00:09:11,610 --> 00:09:15,370 So this is an infinity over infinity indeterminate form. 171 00:09:15,370 --> 00:09:17,275 And so you could apply l'Hopital's rule to it again. 172 00:09:17,275 --> 00:09:19,280 OK? 173 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,820 That's one thing you could do. 174 00:09:20,820 --> 00:09:23,190 You might also look at and say well, these two things are 175 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:25,375 going to infinity at exactly the same rate. 176 00:09:25,375 --> 00:09:26,380 Right? 177 00:09:26,380 --> 00:09:29,630 This plus 1 is almost totally irrelevant. 178 00:09:29,630 --> 00:09:32,450 Actually for purposes of estimating the magnitude of 179 00:09:32,450 --> 00:09:36,170 this fraction, it is totally irrelevant. 180 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:38,960 When you take you know, when 3x is big, then e to the 3x is 181 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,900 like a billion or something. 182 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:42,320 So e to 3x is a billion. 183 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,760 So you have a billion over a billion and 1. 184 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,640 So it's very, very close to 1. 185 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,640 It's going to get closer and closer to 1. 186 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,244 So, OK, so if you didn't trust that analysis based on 187 00:09:53,244 --> 00:09:57,810 magnitudes, I mean the idea here is just that the most 188 00:09:57,810 --> 00:10:00,300 significant term in the top is the e to the 3x. 189 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:02,810 The most significant term on the bottom is e to the 3x. 190 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:05,610 They dominate everything else that appears, which is just 191 00:10:05,610 --> 00:10:06,590 this little 1. 192 00:10:06,590 --> 00:10:07,990 So that's going to give you a ratio of 1. 193 00:10:07,990 --> 00:10:10,020 If you don't trust that analysis, you can apply 194 00:10:10,020 --> 00:10:12,320 l'Hopital's rule again, and l'Hopital's rule will tell you 195 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,120 exactly the equivalent thing. 196 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,840 When you take a derivative, you'll be left with 3e to the 197 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,980 3x over 3e to the 3x, which is just 1. 198 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:21,980 So in either case, this part goes to 1. 199 00:10:21,980 --> 00:10:24,430 So three 3/2 times it goes right to 3/2. 200 00:10:24,430 --> 00:10:27,410 201 00:10:27,410 --> 00:10:29,360 All right, so there you have it. 202 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,160 Four limits computed with l'Hopital's rule. 203 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,050 Well one of them was computed without l'Hopital's rule. 204 00:10:35,050 --> 00:10:37,940 Remember, you always have to check that you actually have 205 00:10:37,940 --> 00:10:43,400 an indeterminate form before you apply l'Hopital's rule. 206 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,860 And that's all I have to say about that. 207 00:10:44,860 --> 00:10:46,560 So I'll end there. 208 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:46,780