1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 2 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,110 JOEL LEWIS: Hi, welcome back to recitation. 3 00:00:09,110 --> 00:00:11,660 In lecture, Professor Jerison was teaching about 4 00:00:11,660 --> 00:00:13,600 L'Hospital's Rule, and one thing that he mentioned 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,530 several times was that when you apply L'Hospital's Rule, 6 00:00:17,530 --> 00:00:20,780 it's really important that the second limit exists in order 7 00:00:20,780 --> 00:00:23,250 for L'Hospital's Rule to be true, in order for the first 8 00:00:23,250 --> 00:00:24,270 limit to equal the second limit. 9 00:00:24,270 --> 00:00:25,740 So I have a-- 10 00:00:25,740 --> 00:00:31,710 but he didn't give you any examples of what can go wrong. 11 00:00:31,710 --> 00:00:35,780 So I have here a limit for you to work on. 12 00:00:35,780 --> 00:00:39,750 So what I'd like you to do is try L'Hospital's Rule, see 13 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:43,670 what happens, and then try to solve it a different way not 14 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:45,240 using L'Hospital's Rule. 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,820 So why don't you pause the video, spend a couple minutes 16 00:00:48,820 --> 00:00:49,960 working on that, come back, and we 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,210 can work on it together. 18 00:00:51,210 --> 00:00:59,300 19 00:00:59,300 --> 00:01:00,030 Welcome back. 20 00:01:00,030 --> 00:01:02,740 Hopefully you've have some fun working on this limit. 21 00:01:02,740 --> 00:01:05,550 Let's go through it and see what happens when we try to 22 00:01:05,550 --> 00:01:07,370 apply L'Hospital's Rule to it. 23 00:01:07,370 --> 00:01:10,725 So the first thing to notice is that as x goes to infinity, 24 00:01:10,725 --> 00:01:14,510 x plus cosine x-- well, cosine x is small, and you know, 25 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:16,750 between minus 1 and 1, x is going to infinity. 26 00:01:16,750 --> 00:01:18,920 So the top is going to infinity and the bottom is 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:19,780 going to infinity. 28 00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:22,940 So this is an infinity over infinity indeterminate form. 29 00:01:22,940 --> 00:01:25,560 So it is a context in which we can try to apply L'Hospital's 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,530 Rule, so that's fine. 31 00:01:27,530 --> 00:01:31,270 So it's an indeterminate ratio, we can look at applying 32 00:01:31,270 --> 00:01:32,180 L'Hospital's Rule. 33 00:01:32,180 --> 00:01:33,870 So let's try to do that. 34 00:01:33,870 --> 00:01:39,450 So L'Hospital's Rule says that the limit as x goes to 35 00:01:39,450 --> 00:01:46,970 infinity of our expression x plus cosine x divided by x is 36 00:01:46,970 --> 00:01:49,010 equal-- and I'm going to put a little question mark here 37 00:01:49,010 --> 00:01:52,370 because what L'Hospital's Rule says is that it's equal 38 00:01:52,370 --> 00:01:54,050 provided, it's equal to what I'm going to write over here 39 00:01:54,050 --> 00:01:56,000 provided that the second limit exists. 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,170 So what goes over here? 41 00:01:57,170 --> 00:02:01,980 Well it's the limit as x goes to the same place as x goes to 42 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:05,390 infinity of the ratio of the derivative, so the derivative 43 00:02:05,390 --> 00:02:08,220 of the top divided by the derivative of the bottom. 44 00:02:08,220 --> 00:02:14,390 So in this case that's 1 minus sine x is the derivative of 45 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:18,550 the top and 1 is the derivative of the bottom. 46 00:02:18,550 --> 00:02:20,220 OK, now let's look at this limit. 47 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:20,600 What happens? 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,430 Well, OK the over 1 part is irrelevant. 49 00:02:23,430 --> 00:02:26,060 The 1 minus part, OK, who cares? 50 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:29,820 The only thing that's changing in this limit is the sine x. 51 00:02:29,820 --> 00:02:33,120 So as x goes to infinity what this does is it oscillates, 52 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,270 just like sine x does. 53 00:02:34,270 --> 00:02:36,770 I mean, it's offset and flipped upside down because of 54 00:02:36,770 --> 00:02:38,300 this 1 minus. 55 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:40,870 So, in particular, you know, sometimes it's near 1, 56 00:02:40,870 --> 00:02:43,470 sometimes it's near negative 1, sometimes it's near 0, and 57 00:02:43,470 --> 00:02:46,760 it oscillates back and forth in between. 58 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,360 So in particular, because it's oscillating, it's not 59 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,370 approaching any value. 60 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:53,950 So this limit doesn't exist. It's not 61 00:02:53,950 --> 00:02:55,070 equal to any real number. 62 00:02:55,070 --> 00:02:55,780 It's not equal to infinity. 63 00:02:55,780 --> 00:02:57,640 It's not equal to minus infinity. 64 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:01,620 It does not exist. 65 00:03:01,620 --> 00:03:05,900 OK, so the statement of L'Hospital's theorem says that 66 00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:07,125 this equality is really wrong. 67 00:03:07,125 --> 00:03:08,840 OK? 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,780 What it means is that L'Hospital's 69 00:03:09,780 --> 00:03:11,230 Rule tells you nothing. 70 00:03:11,230 --> 00:03:12,980 You don't learn anything here. 71 00:03:12,980 --> 00:03:17,240 So if we want to compute this first limit, we can't use 72 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:17,620 L'Hospital's Rule. 73 00:03:17,620 --> 00:03:21,820 We have to come up with some better way to do it, OK. 74 00:03:21,820 --> 00:03:23,210 So that's what's going wrong. 75 00:03:23,210 --> 00:03:25,550 Now let's see about doing this even though we 76 00:03:25,550 --> 00:03:27,460 don't have this tool. 77 00:03:27,460 --> 00:03:30,400 So if we try and solve this limit without L'Hospital's 78 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,050 Rule, so we want to look at the limit as x goes to 79 00:03:33,050 --> 00:03:36,040 infinity of x plus cosine x divided by x. 80 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,070 Well, think about what's important in this limit. 81 00:03:39,070 --> 00:03:44,660 As x is getting big, well x is getting big and x is getting 82 00:03:44,660 --> 00:03:46,460 big and what's cosine x doing? 83 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:51,150 Well cosine x is behaving like a constant but wigglier right, 84 00:03:51,150 --> 00:03:51,620 we could say. 85 00:03:51,620 --> 00:03:54,730 So cosine x is always between minus 1 and 1, but, you know, 86 00:03:54,730 --> 00:03:58,690 it's oscillating, but it's in some bounded interval there, 87 00:03:58,690 --> 00:04:03,040 whereas x and x are both going to infinity at exactly the 88 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,600 same speed, so this suggests a manipulation that sort of 89 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,400 allows us to quantify that explicitly. 90 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,770 And so one thing that we can do is we can divide top and 91 00:04:14,770 --> 00:04:16,870 bottom of this limit by x. 92 00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:19,420 So if we do that, or equivalently we can just 93 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:23,130 divide this x into the fraction above, split it into 94 00:04:23,130 --> 00:04:24,050 two fractions. 95 00:04:24,050 --> 00:04:26,320 So we have-- 96 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,460 I'm just going to re-write it one more time --the limit of x 97 00:04:29,460 --> 00:04:36,930 goes to infinity of x plus cosine x divided by x is equal 98 00:04:36,930 --> 00:04:44,270 to the limit as x goes to infinity of 1 plus 99 00:04:44,270 --> 00:04:48,560 cosine x over x. 100 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,110 All right, so what's happening here? 101 00:04:50,110 --> 00:04:53,800 Well all I've done is I've divided that x in-- and now 102 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,690 you see that this 1, that was from the x over x, so that's a 103 00:04:56,690 --> 00:04:59,100 constant that's going to 1 --and as x goes to infinity, 104 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:02,210 cosine x again we can think of it like a constant but 105 00:05:02,210 --> 00:05:05,430 wigglier, x is going to infinity, so cosine x over x 106 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:10,390 is going to 0 as x goes to infinity. 107 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:12,560 So I guess I wouldn't call this plugging in, but it's, 108 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,960 you know, sort of just like plugging in. 109 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,440 So this part is going to 0, so we're left with just 1. 110 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,530 111 00:05:20,530 --> 00:05:23,870 OK, so we can evaluate this limit fairly easily. 112 00:05:23,870 --> 00:05:25,440 It just took a couple steps. 113 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,890 But we can't evaluate it with L'Hospital's Rule. 114 00:05:27,890 --> 00:05:32,410 So this is why you have that extra thing in the statement 115 00:05:32,410 --> 00:05:35,900 of the theorem that Professor Jerison kept saying, and that 116 00:05:35,900 --> 00:05:38,320 I'll say every time I use it, which is L'Hospital's Rule 117 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,480 says that the limit of the ratio is equal to the limit of 118 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,330 the ratio of the derivative provided the 119 00:05:43,330 --> 00:05:44,920 second limit exists. 120 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,750 OK, so here's an example where the second limit didn't exist 121 00:05:47,750 --> 00:05:50,450 and so we can't say that the two are actually equal to each 122 00:05:50,450 --> 00:05:52,980 other, and we need some other tools to evaluate 123 00:05:52,980 --> 00:05:54,330 the limit in question. 124 00:05:54,330 --> 00:05:55,580 So I'll end there. 125 00:05:55,580 --> 00:05:56,156