WEBVTT 00:00:00.090 --> 00:00:02.430 The following content is provided under a Creative 00:00:02.430 --> 00:00:03.810 Commons license. 00:00:03.810 --> 00:00:06.060 Your support will help MIT OpenCourseWare 00:00:06.060 --> 00:00:10.150 continue to offer high quality educational resources for free. 00:00:10.150 --> 00:00:12.700 To make a donation or to view additional materials 00:00:12.700 --> 00:00:16.600 from hundreds of MIT courses, visit MIT OpenCourseWare 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:17.265 at ocw.mit.edu. 00:00:25.779 --> 00:00:26.820 GEORGE ZAIDAN: All right. 00:00:26.820 --> 00:00:28.409 We're going to talk about hosting. 00:00:28.409 --> 00:00:30.450 I'm going to go through rules quickly, guidelines 00:00:30.450 --> 00:00:31.960 just the same as we did before. 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:36.720 Then I'm going to read a short section of one of your scripts. 00:00:36.720 --> 00:00:38.350 You're going to critique my hosting. 00:00:38.350 --> 00:00:40.800 And then we'll do the same thing for some of you. 00:00:40.800 --> 00:00:44.500 Again, we won't do everyone. 00:00:44.500 --> 00:00:45.550 This we covered already. 00:00:45.550 --> 00:00:46.371 Don't read it. 00:00:46.371 --> 00:00:46.870 Tell it. 00:00:46.870 --> 00:00:49.665 This is the Hourglass video from before. 00:00:52.780 --> 00:00:54.880 This is a subtle point. 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:59.390 You can start off by imitating someone else's hosting style, 00:00:59.390 --> 00:01:02.990 but you'll invariably just get caught, as like that's 00:01:02.990 --> 00:01:05.099 the only thing that you can do. 00:01:05.099 --> 00:01:08.220 And since it's not your own personality, 00:01:08.220 --> 00:01:12.180 it's just sort of weird and unnatural, and doesn't work. 00:01:12.180 --> 00:01:15.130 I did this when I was first starting out. 00:01:15.130 --> 00:01:16.570 It did not end well. 00:01:16.570 --> 00:01:20.090 These are my words of wisdom to you. 00:01:20.090 --> 00:01:24.800 And no more needs to be said about that. 00:01:24.800 --> 00:01:25.890 This is a really hard one. 00:01:25.890 --> 00:01:33.770 So there's this device called interview something. 00:01:33.770 --> 00:01:34.834 I don't know. 00:01:34.834 --> 00:01:36.500 There's a famous director, who basically 00:01:36.500 --> 00:01:40.070 has a silver mirror that he puts in front of the camera. 00:01:40.070 --> 00:01:41.767 And there's an image below. 00:01:41.767 --> 00:01:43.850 It's like a teleprompter, except, instead of text, 00:01:43.850 --> 00:01:45.040 you see a person's face. 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:46.420 You see the interviewer's face. 00:01:46.420 --> 00:01:49.890 So the interviewee is looking straight into the camera lens, 00:01:49.890 --> 00:01:52.410 but that person is actually seeing 00:01:52.410 --> 00:01:54.486 the face of the person who's interviewing them. 00:01:54.486 --> 00:01:56.110 So who's seen the movie The Fog of War? 00:01:59.360 --> 00:01:59.860 No one else? 00:01:59.860 --> 00:02:00.497 OK. 00:02:00.497 --> 00:02:01.330 You should watch it. 00:02:01.330 --> 00:02:02.639 It's really interesting. 00:02:02.639 --> 00:02:03.430 It's a documentary. 00:02:03.430 --> 00:02:04.630 It's an interview movie. 00:02:04.630 --> 00:02:09.620 And not Richard Nixon. 00:02:09.620 --> 00:02:14.420 The Secretary of War for the Vietnam War was McNamara. 00:02:14.420 --> 00:02:17.940 So he was interviewed on that movie using this technique. 00:02:17.940 --> 00:02:19.840 And it's a really interesting technique. 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:22.240 But the point is when you look into the camera-- 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:24.490 we don't have a fancy device like that, unfortunately. 00:02:24.490 --> 00:02:27.150 But when you look into a camera, see a person's face, 00:02:27.150 --> 00:02:29.630 preferably someone that you know, 00:02:29.630 --> 00:02:33.000 whether it's like a friend, husband, wife, son, 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:34.260 daughter, whatever it is. 00:02:34.260 --> 00:02:36.820 Pick someone, and see their face on camera. 00:02:36.820 --> 00:02:38.470 That is the quickest and easiest way 00:02:38.470 --> 00:02:40.660 to make your hosting more natural without really 00:02:40.660 --> 00:02:42.060 thinking about it. 00:02:42.060 --> 00:02:43.150 And that's very hard to do, because you're 00:02:43.150 --> 00:02:43.970 thinking of your script. 00:02:43.970 --> 00:02:45.740 You're thinking of 18,000 other things. 00:02:45.740 --> 00:02:49.510 But that's the most important rule. 00:02:49.510 --> 00:02:51.620 Usually, the camera tones you down. 00:02:51.620 --> 00:02:57.410 So if you are talking like you would normally talk, 00:02:57.410 --> 00:03:01.140 you will kind of seem like this on camera. 00:03:01.140 --> 00:03:05.000 It just tones you down and slows you down, 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.780 and lowers your energy level, unless it's right in your face. 00:03:07.780 --> 00:03:09.370 Then it's different. 00:03:09.370 --> 00:03:11.180 But usually it's not right in your face. 00:03:11.180 --> 00:03:14.150 So you need to compensate by-- I really 00:03:14.150 --> 00:03:16.530 hesitate to say, up your energy level, 00:03:16.530 --> 00:03:19.800 because when people say that the initial reaction is to be like, 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:21.470 and then, you need to talk like this, 00:03:21.470 --> 00:03:24.710 because that's how-- and that just doesn't work either. 00:03:24.710 --> 00:03:27.760 So you want to be a more energetic version 00:03:27.760 --> 00:03:28.850 of your natural self. 00:03:28.850 --> 00:03:31.410 So think of if you were just really excited about something, 00:03:31.410 --> 00:03:32.570 how would you actually be? 00:03:32.570 --> 00:03:34.430 That's how you should be on camera. 00:03:34.430 --> 00:03:37.710 ELIZABETH CHOE: And just to have physical metrics, 00:03:37.710 --> 00:03:41.272 higher energy doesn't mean higher pitch and tone. 00:03:41.272 --> 00:03:43.910 That's the biggest thing that happens when they say, now, 00:03:43.910 --> 00:03:44.710 with more energy. 00:03:44.710 --> 00:03:47.420 Then people talk with a higher tone, like this. 00:03:47.420 --> 00:03:50.010 And that's the last thing you want to do, generally. 00:03:53.440 --> 00:03:54.190 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK. 00:03:54.190 --> 00:03:56.820 So now what I'm going to do is I'm going to read this. 00:03:56.820 --> 00:03:59.010 And you all are going to critique my hosting style. 00:03:59.010 --> 00:04:01.320 And I'm going to read it as if-- I'm going 00:04:01.320 --> 00:04:05.490 to deliver it as if-- oh, wait. 00:04:05.490 --> 00:04:06.800 No, most of this is a quote. 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:08.500 So let me do something else. 00:04:08.500 --> 00:04:10.680 I'll do this. 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:14.891 I'm going to deliver this as though it's not my job. 00:04:14.891 --> 00:04:15.390 OK. 00:04:15.390 --> 00:04:15.800 Ready? 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:16.299 Here we go. 00:04:19.390 --> 00:04:22.110 Why do some people handle cold better than others? 00:04:22.110 --> 00:04:24.070 Why is it that some are so fearful of the cold 00:04:24.070 --> 00:04:26.320 that they'd rather die than be caught outside with all 00:04:26.320 --> 00:04:27.810 the winter gear on, mask and all, 00:04:27.810 --> 00:04:30.630 while others can wear one layer for a morning jog? 00:04:30.630 --> 00:04:32.470 What makes all the difference? 00:04:32.470 --> 00:04:33.210 OK. 00:04:33.210 --> 00:04:34.432 Critique. 00:04:34.432 --> 00:04:36.244 What was wrong with that? 00:04:36.244 --> 00:04:36.743 Yeah? 00:04:36.743 --> 00:04:38.550 AUDIENCE: I felt like you could do more. 00:04:38.550 --> 00:04:38.830 GEORGE ZAIDAN: In what way? 00:04:38.830 --> 00:04:40.786 AUDIENCE: So you were restrained by the fact 00:04:40.786 --> 00:04:44.030 that you were looking at somebody else's work. 00:04:44.030 --> 00:04:45.010 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK. 00:04:45.010 --> 00:04:45.760 That is true. 00:04:45.760 --> 00:04:48.680 So if I was reading something that I had written myself, 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:50.370 I'd probably do a better job. 00:04:50.370 --> 00:04:52.590 But in this case-- you will be reading your own work. 00:04:52.590 --> 00:04:53.540 So that won't be quite the same. 00:04:53.540 --> 00:04:54.130 Yeah? 00:04:54.130 --> 00:04:55.940 AUDIENCE: So I think just how you read it, 00:04:55.940 --> 00:04:57.690 it seemed like you were asking a question, 00:04:57.690 --> 00:05:01.810 but there's no, oh yeah, I've never thought about it. 00:05:01.810 --> 00:05:05.124 It's like, why do some people handle cold better than others? 00:05:05.124 --> 00:05:07.040 Maybe if you changed it to like, have you ever 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:09.847 wondered why some people-- and try to-- I 00:05:09.847 --> 00:05:11.680 don't know if it's the structure of sentence 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:12.681 or just how you said it. 00:05:12.681 --> 00:05:14.680 GEORGE ZAIDAN: And this is part of the exercise, 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:16.030 as I'm reading it word for word. 00:05:16.030 --> 00:05:18.030 So let's assume that I can't change the wording. 00:05:18.030 --> 00:05:19.279 I mean, in real life, you can. 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.740 But what could I do just with intonation of my voice, 00:05:21.740 --> 00:05:23.035 or what else? 00:05:23.035 --> 00:05:27.482 AUDIENCE: Maybe slow down a little bit, 00:05:27.482 --> 00:05:29.580 and really hit that question hard. 00:05:29.580 --> 00:05:30.330 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK. 00:05:33.750 --> 00:05:36.440 You were going to-- no, you had your hand up. 00:05:36.440 --> 00:05:38.320 AUDIENCE: I'm going to think a bit more. 00:05:38.320 --> 00:05:39.260 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK. 00:05:39.260 --> 00:05:41.730 AUDIENCE: The intonation, when you ask a question, 00:05:41.730 --> 00:05:45.046 you probably want to raise it at the end. 00:05:45.046 --> 00:05:48.516 And if you were to ask a very [INAUDIBLE], 00:05:48.516 --> 00:05:50.432 because there are a couple of questions there. 00:05:50.432 --> 00:05:53.288 So I guess you can pick the one that you really want them 00:05:53.288 --> 00:05:55.160 to think and give them pause. 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.900 So get them to think before you [INAUDIBLE]. 00:05:58.900 --> 00:06:00.790 ELIZABETH CHOE: That's a good point, 00:06:00.790 --> 00:06:04.230 that you can create suspension in your tone of voice. 00:06:04.230 --> 00:06:06.460 But a lot of people make the mistake 00:06:06.460 --> 00:06:10.050 of assuming that every question has to end with an uptone. 00:06:10.050 --> 00:06:10.550 Right? 00:06:10.550 --> 00:06:15.860 A powerful question can be posed with the tone ending downwards. 00:06:15.860 --> 00:06:19.610 Why do some people handle cold better than others? 00:06:19.610 --> 00:06:21.360 That is still a strong question even 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:24.270 though I didn't say, why do some people handle 00:06:24.270 --> 00:06:25.990 the cold better than others? 00:06:25.990 --> 00:06:26.740 That actually is-- 00:06:26.740 --> 00:06:29.323 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Well, you didn't end upward on either of those. 00:06:29.323 --> 00:06:32.640 The ending upward is like, why do some people handle 00:06:32.640 --> 00:06:34.330 cold better than others? 00:06:34.330 --> 00:06:37.150 That's the traditional way that people asks questions. 00:06:37.150 --> 00:06:38.170 But I agree with you. 00:06:38.170 --> 00:06:40.710 The way that I read it, all the questions were flat. 00:06:40.710 --> 00:06:42.496 All had the same intonation. 00:06:42.496 --> 00:06:43.870 What I really want to do is vary. 00:06:43.870 --> 00:06:47.840 So something like, why do some people 00:06:47.840 --> 00:06:49.680 handle cold better than others? 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.670 Why is it that some are so fearful of the cold 00:06:51.670 --> 00:06:54.620 that they'd rather die than be caught outside without all 00:06:54.620 --> 00:06:56.760 the winter gear, all the mask and all that stuff, 00:06:56.760 --> 00:06:59.030 where other people can just where one layer for a morning 00:06:59.030 --> 00:06:59.529 jog? 00:06:59.529 --> 00:07:01.280 What's the difference? 00:07:01.280 --> 00:07:04.061 So each question I asked there in a totally different way. 00:07:04.061 --> 00:07:04.560 What else? 00:07:08.814 --> 00:07:10.480 ELIZABETH CHOE: So a big piece of advice 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:12.915 that we give to students is to think about the words 00:07:12.915 --> 00:07:15.062 that you're saying, which is also the hardest 00:07:15.062 --> 00:07:17.270 thing to do when you're trying to remember everything 00:07:17.270 --> 00:07:18.250 that you're saying. 00:07:18.250 --> 00:07:21.040 You have a camera in front of you. 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:23.870 But that's also why we often take the script away 00:07:23.870 --> 00:07:25.380 from the students. 00:07:25.380 --> 00:07:27.050 It's easy to get caught up in, oh shoot, 00:07:27.050 --> 00:07:27.860 I have to remember all the words. 00:07:27.860 --> 00:07:30.140 And I'm very, very guilty of this as well. 00:07:30.140 --> 00:07:33.100 So I totally understand how hard it is to do. 00:07:33.100 --> 00:07:35.920 But when you are asking the question genuinely, 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.860 why do some people get cold while other people don't? 00:07:39.860 --> 00:07:42.930 The way I said that was very different than why 00:07:42.930 --> 00:07:46.270 do some people handle cold better than others? 00:07:46.270 --> 00:07:49.020 When I'm actually thinking about the words that I'm saying, 00:07:49.020 --> 00:07:51.910 which is a very obvious suggestion to make, but, 00:07:51.910 --> 00:07:55.420 again, very hard to implement yourself, 00:07:55.420 --> 00:07:57.402 the intonation and the delivery become 00:07:57.402 --> 00:07:59.319 a lot more natural and genuine. 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:01.360 I don't know if you want to add anything to that. 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:02.440 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Yeah, and that's another rule. 00:08:02.440 --> 00:08:04.731 Like when you look into the camera, see someone's face, 00:08:04.731 --> 00:08:07.960 that's something that you can do that doesn't-- I mean, 00:08:07.960 --> 00:08:09.230 it requires some preparation. 00:08:09.230 --> 00:08:12.046 But it doesn't require thought while you're actually doing it. 00:08:12.046 --> 00:08:14.170 So when you look in the camera, see someone's face. 00:08:14.170 --> 00:08:17.510 And actually think about the words that you're saying 00:08:17.510 --> 00:08:18.401 is helpful too. 00:08:18.401 --> 00:08:20.150 ELIZABETH CHOE: You want to avoid monotony 00:08:20.150 --> 00:08:21.900 not just in the intonation. 00:08:21.900 --> 00:08:24.350 So you don't want to say, why do some people handle 00:08:24.350 --> 00:08:26.510 cold better than the others? 00:08:26.510 --> 00:08:28.540 Why is it that some are so fearful-- right, 00:08:28.540 --> 00:08:31.809 that's monotonous in tone, but it's also monotonous in rhythm. 00:08:31.809 --> 00:08:32.309 All right. 00:08:32.309 --> 00:08:34.530 So when George said it the second time, 00:08:34.530 --> 00:08:36.210 he rushed through some of the words 00:08:36.210 --> 00:08:38.860 in the middle that were in a list, which is very natural. 00:08:38.860 --> 00:08:41.250 When we're like, this morning I have to go to work, 00:08:41.250 --> 00:08:43.541 and I have to do this, and I have to do this, and this, 00:08:43.541 --> 00:08:45.310 you rush through things that you list. 00:08:45.310 --> 00:08:48.030 Whereas, if you're just reading like you would read, 00:08:48.030 --> 00:08:50.326 you say it with the same rhythmic pacing. 00:08:50.326 --> 00:08:53.480 You make the pauses where the punctuation is. 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:56.900 You sound very even with the way you break up your words. 00:08:56.900 --> 00:08:58.420 And that's super unnatural. 00:08:58.420 --> 00:09:00.270 That's why it sounds robotic. 00:09:00.270 --> 00:09:05.180 So when you mix up not only the intonation, but also 00:09:05.180 --> 00:09:08.569 the speed at which you're delivering some of the words-- 00:09:08.569 --> 00:09:09.110 I don't know. 00:09:09.110 --> 00:09:10.901 You can do it again and maybe pay attention 00:09:10.901 --> 00:09:12.000 to how he does it. 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:16.230 That's kind of also why it feels a lot more natural. 00:09:16.230 --> 00:09:19.000 So I'm going to do it again, this time completely different, 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:22.710 and get your critique as well. 00:09:22.710 --> 00:09:25.600 Why do some people handle cold better than others? 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:27.850 Why is it that some are so fearful of the cold 00:09:27.850 --> 00:09:30.740 that they would rather die than be caught outside without all 00:09:30.740 --> 00:09:33.590 the winter gear on, mask and all, while others can 00:09:33.590 --> 00:09:35.800 where one layer for a morning jog? 00:09:35.800 --> 00:09:37.830 What's the difference? 00:09:37.830 --> 00:09:40.210 Was that better or worse than the first time I did it? 00:09:40.210 --> 00:09:42.106 AUDIENCE: It sounds like a Ted Ed video. 00:09:42.106 --> 00:09:43.980 GEORGE ZAIDAN: It sounds like a Ted Ed video? 00:09:43.980 --> 00:09:46.539 Oh man, then I'm not making very good Ted Ed videos. 00:09:46.539 --> 00:09:48.997 AUDIENCE: Better than the first, not as good as the second. 00:09:48.997 --> 00:09:50.140 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK. 00:09:50.140 --> 00:09:50.640 Why? 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.384 What was inauthentic about that? 00:09:56.384 --> 00:09:59.417 AUDIENCE: You sounded too intentionally energized. 00:09:59.417 --> 00:10:00.250 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Yeah. 00:10:00.250 --> 00:10:02.940 So normally, when we say to someone, up your energy, 00:10:02.940 --> 00:10:05.670 or when anyone says that, that's what comes out. 00:10:05.670 --> 00:10:10.920 You get this weird, I have to really try 00:10:10.920 --> 00:10:13.024 to be excited about this, because I don't really 00:10:13.024 --> 00:10:13.940 know what I'm reading. 00:10:13.940 --> 00:10:15.930 But I'm going to just emphasize random words 00:10:15.930 --> 00:10:17.190 and say them louder. 00:10:17.190 --> 00:10:18.860 And that makes it exciting. 00:10:18.860 --> 00:10:19.890 No, it doesn't make it. 00:10:22.990 --> 00:10:25.972 And especially, if you mix that in with a bit of newscastery, 00:10:25.972 --> 00:10:27.430 then you're just dead in the water, 00:10:27.430 --> 00:10:33.040 because you end up with the most unwatchable video ever. 00:10:33.040 --> 00:10:35.040 ELIZABETH CHOE: And you sound like you're trying 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:37.612 to talk to a 2-year-old too. 00:10:37.612 --> 00:10:42.500 I think that's the final effect, which we want to avoid. 00:10:42.500 --> 00:10:43.250 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK. 00:10:43.250 --> 00:10:44.841 Now, I'm going to read it again. 00:10:44.841 --> 00:10:46.590 And this is going to be a bit more subtle. 00:10:46.590 --> 00:10:47.990 Here we go. 00:10:47.990 --> 00:10:50.570 Why do some people handle cold better than others? 00:10:50.570 --> 00:10:52.630 Why is it that some are so fearful of the cold 00:10:52.630 --> 00:10:55.004 that they'd rather die than be caught outside without all 00:10:55.004 --> 00:10:56.490 the winter gear on, mask and all, 00:10:56.490 --> 00:10:58.500 while others can wear one layer and be fine? 00:10:58.500 --> 00:11:00.985 What makes the difference? 00:11:00.985 --> 00:11:02.360 What does that sound like to you? 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:03.794 AUDIENCE: It sounds more natural, 00:11:03.794 --> 00:11:05.085 like you're talking to someone. 00:11:05.085 --> 00:11:07.500 GEORGE ZAIDAN: It definitely sounds more natural. 00:11:07.500 --> 00:11:09.550 Any critique of it? 00:11:09.550 --> 00:11:12.242 AUDIENCE: I think it sounded a little disinterested at parts. 00:11:12.242 --> 00:11:13.970 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Uh-huh. 00:11:13.970 --> 00:11:15.148 Why? 00:11:15.148 --> 00:11:17.439 AUDIENCE: It was kind of like a little bit of a mumble, 00:11:17.439 --> 00:11:20.579 like when I talk, and I'm going on like this. [MUMBLING] 00:11:20.579 --> 00:11:22.370 GEORGE ZAIDAN: It's like, yeah, [MUMBLING]. 00:11:25.490 --> 00:11:26.450 It is very natural. 00:11:26.450 --> 00:11:28.410 But there is a lack of wonder. 00:11:31.010 --> 00:11:34.850 This is a topic that I am sort of taking for granted. 00:11:34.850 --> 00:11:38.110 And I sort of expect that you'll take it for granted too, 00:11:38.110 --> 00:11:41.670 so you do take it for granted. 00:11:41.670 --> 00:11:42.217 All right. 00:11:42.217 --> 00:11:44.300 I've sort of run out of different ways to do that. 00:11:44.300 --> 00:11:49.620 So let's have you guys try. 00:11:49.620 --> 00:11:52.601 Who did not have their script analyzed? 00:11:52.601 --> 00:11:53.100 Come on up. 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:01.410 So take my hot seat there. 00:12:04.040 --> 00:12:07.350 And give us a read. 00:12:10.316 --> 00:12:12.440 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle the cold better 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:13.450 than others? 00:12:13.450 --> 00:12:15.510 Why is it that some are so fearful of the cold 00:12:15.510 --> 00:12:18.490 that they'd rather die than be caught outside without all 00:12:18.490 --> 00:12:20.310 the winter gear on, mask and all, 00:12:20.310 --> 00:12:23.550 while others can wear one layer for a morning jog? 00:12:23.550 --> 00:12:24.940 What makes all the difference? 00:12:24.940 --> 00:12:26.386 GEORGE ZAIDAN: One more time. 00:12:30.650 --> 00:12:31.150 Differently. 00:12:31.150 --> 00:12:32.700 Do it differently. 00:12:32.700 --> 00:12:36.671 By the way, those of you that will do production with me 00:12:36.671 --> 00:12:38.420 and Elizabeth, that is the phrase that you 00:12:38.420 --> 00:12:40.990 will hear most throughout the week is, one more time. 00:12:44.265 --> 00:12:46.390 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle the cold better 00:12:46.390 --> 00:12:47.640 than others? 00:12:47.640 --> 00:12:50.450 Why is it that some people are so fearful of the cold 00:12:50.450 --> 00:12:52.960 that they'd rather die than be caught outside without all 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:55.970 the winter gear on, mask and all, while others can 00:12:55.970 --> 00:12:58.230 where one layer for a morning jog? 00:12:58.230 --> 00:13:00.009 What makes all the difference? 00:13:00.009 --> 00:13:02.342 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Do you have the first sentence memorized? 00:13:02.342 --> 00:13:03.520 AUDIENCE: Yeah. 00:13:03.520 --> 00:13:05.280 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Deliver it without looking at the script. 00:13:05.280 --> 00:13:07.405 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle the cold better 00:13:07.405 --> 00:13:08.050 than others? 00:13:08.050 --> 00:13:09.633 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Now, look at Elizabeth, 00:13:09.633 --> 00:13:10.870 and just ask that question. 00:13:10.870 --> 00:13:12.994 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle the cold better 00:13:12.994 --> 00:13:13.670 than others? 00:13:13.670 --> 00:13:18.580 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Now, don't have the line in your head. 00:13:18.580 --> 00:13:20.035 Just ask her. 00:13:20.035 --> 00:13:22.160 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle the cold better 00:13:22.160 --> 00:13:22.960 than others? 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:29.361 ELIZABETH CHOE: Now, ask me as if I were Eric Lander. 00:13:29.361 --> 00:13:30.610 AUDIENCE: I've never seen him. 00:13:33.560 --> 00:13:36.320 Why do some people handle the cold better than others? 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:38.970 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Elizabeth, sit closer. 00:13:38.970 --> 00:13:40.230 ELIZABETH CHOE: OK. 00:13:40.230 --> 00:13:41.690 I'm a professor. 00:13:41.690 --> 00:13:43.130 And you're at my office hours. 00:13:43.130 --> 00:13:47.940 And I've given you the piece at question 00:13:47.940 --> 00:13:50.745 relating to hypothermia. 00:13:50.745 --> 00:13:52.870 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle the cold better 00:13:52.870 --> 00:13:55.100 than others? 00:13:55.100 --> 00:13:58.270 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Now, ask the question in your own words. 00:14:00.810 --> 00:14:03.550 Don't use the words that are written on the script. 00:14:09.250 --> 00:14:10.280 Ask Elizabeth. 00:14:10.280 --> 00:14:13.870 AUDIENCE: Why are some people so immune to the cold? 00:14:13.870 --> 00:14:16.625 GEORGE ZAIDAN: So do people see how hard this is? 00:14:16.625 --> 00:14:18.230 This is really not easy. 00:14:18.230 --> 00:14:19.190 Right? 00:14:19.190 --> 00:14:19.690 Thanks. 00:14:19.690 --> 00:14:20.189 You're good. 00:14:20.189 --> 00:14:21.620 Come on back. 00:14:21.620 --> 00:14:22.120 All right. 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:22.781 Who's next? 00:14:22.781 --> 00:14:23.280 Your turn. 00:14:30.390 --> 00:14:31.350 Same paragraph. 00:14:31.350 --> 00:14:32.183 AUDIENCE: All right. 00:14:36.630 --> 00:14:39.770 Why do some people handle cold better than others? 00:14:39.770 --> 00:14:41.695 Why is it that some are so fearful of the cold 00:14:41.695 --> 00:14:44.070 that they'd rather die than be caught outside without all 00:14:44.070 --> 00:14:45.885 the winter gear on, mask and all, 00:14:45.885 --> 00:14:48.320 while others can wear one layer for a morning jog? 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:49.910 What makes all the difference? 00:14:49.910 --> 00:14:51.195 GEORGE ZAIDAN: One more time. 00:14:51.195 --> 00:14:53.320 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle the cold better 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:54.084 than others? 00:14:54.084 --> 00:14:56.000 Why is it that some are so fearful of the cold 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:57.990 that they'd rather die than be caught outside without all 00:14:57.990 --> 00:14:59.540 the winter gear on, mask and all, 00:14:59.540 --> 00:15:02.495 while others can wear one layer for a morning jog? 00:15:02.495 --> 00:15:03.930 What makes all the difference? 00:15:03.930 --> 00:15:06.305 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Now, do the first time without reading it. 00:15:09.050 --> 00:15:11.263 AUDIENCE: I have a horrible memory. 00:15:11.263 --> 00:15:13.096 ELIZABETH CHOE: Don't worry about the words. 00:15:13.096 --> 00:15:14.429 You can say it however you want. 00:15:23.900 --> 00:15:25.150 AUDIENCE: I guess, it's just-- 00:15:32.979 --> 00:15:34.562 GEORGE ZAIDAN: What's the video about? 00:15:34.562 --> 00:15:36.210 What's the video about? 00:15:36.210 --> 00:15:39.130 AUDIENCE: Dealing with the cold weather. 00:15:39.130 --> 00:15:42.759 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Say who is dealing with it. 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:43.300 AUDIENCE: OK. 00:15:43.300 --> 00:15:44.770 I have it. 00:15:44.770 --> 00:15:47.360 Why are some people better at dealing with cold than others? 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:47.740 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK. 00:15:47.740 --> 00:15:48.448 You can sit down. 00:15:53.940 --> 00:15:54.960 Anyone else want to go? 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:55.870 Anyone else want to give it a shot? 00:15:55.870 --> 00:15:56.820 Yeah, come on up. 00:16:02.850 --> 00:16:03.475 Same paragraph. 00:16:06.465 --> 00:16:08.590 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle the cold better 00:16:08.590 --> 00:16:09.690 than others? 00:16:09.690 --> 00:16:12.500 Why is it that some people are so fearful of the cold 00:16:12.500 --> 00:16:14.995 that they'd rather die than be caught outside without all 00:16:14.995 --> 00:16:16.490 the winter gear on, mask and all, 00:16:16.490 --> 00:16:19.890 while others can wear one layer in the morning jog? 00:16:19.890 --> 00:16:21.440 What makes all the difference? 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:22.960 GEORGE ZAIDAN: One more time. 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.085 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle the cold better 00:16:25.085 --> 00:16:25.600 than others? 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:27.949 Why is it that some are so fearful of the cold 00:16:27.949 --> 00:16:29.490 that they'd rather die than be caught 00:16:29.490 --> 00:16:32.890 outside without the winter gear on, mask and all, 00:16:32.890 --> 00:16:36.040 while others can wear one layer in the morning jog? 00:16:36.040 --> 00:16:37.920 What makes all the difference? 00:16:37.920 --> 00:16:40.584 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Great, thanks. 00:16:40.584 --> 00:16:41.250 What time is it? 00:16:41.250 --> 00:16:42.564 Do we have time? 00:16:42.564 --> 00:16:44.480 ELIZABETH CHOE: You only have like 10 minutes. 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:45.420 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK. 00:16:45.420 --> 00:16:47.924 What did you guys notice about all 00:16:47.924 --> 00:16:49.215 of those, all three deliveries? 00:16:56.920 --> 00:16:59.080 Were they different or similar? 00:17:04.355 --> 00:17:04.980 AUDIENCE: Both. 00:17:04.980 --> 00:17:06.830 Their personalities came through. 00:17:06.830 --> 00:17:07.580 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK. 00:17:10.940 --> 00:17:13.170 But-- it sounds like there was a but. 00:17:13.170 --> 00:17:15.420 AUDIENCE: But they had a really hard time 00:17:15.420 --> 00:17:20.624 doing something different than what they did the first time. 00:17:20.624 --> 00:17:22.290 GEORGE ZAIDAN: I don't know why this is. 00:17:22.290 --> 00:17:24.700 I don't have any cognitive theory 00:17:24.700 --> 00:17:32.004 as to why it's so hard to do something so differently-- when 00:17:32.004 --> 00:17:33.670 you have the same words in front of you, 00:17:33.670 --> 00:17:37.280 why it's very difficult to read them in different ways. 00:17:37.280 --> 00:17:40.600 But this just happens with everyone. 00:17:40.600 --> 00:17:45.180 And especially, if you've written the script yourself, 00:17:45.180 --> 00:17:46.820 you know the words so well, you've 00:17:46.820 --> 00:17:51.570 looked at it a million times, when it comes time 00:17:51.570 --> 00:17:56.119 to actually be on camera and perform that script 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:58.160 and we say like, OK, well, that was great, but do 00:17:58.160 --> 00:17:59.080 it a different way. 00:17:59.080 --> 00:18:00.740 You're like, well, I wrote it this one way. 00:18:00.740 --> 00:18:02.060 Why should I do it a different way? 00:18:02.060 --> 00:18:03.768 Maybe that's what your brain is thinking. 00:18:03.768 --> 00:18:06.460 And so you just don't know how to do it a different way. 00:18:13.180 --> 00:18:16.890 Let's try something a little weird and creative. 00:18:21.070 --> 00:18:23.800 Julia, right? 00:18:23.800 --> 00:18:26.530 Do the first line, but try and do 00:18:26.530 --> 00:18:30.950 it as different from your first reading as you possibly can. 00:18:30.950 --> 00:18:33.670 And I mean, if you want to exaggerate-- 00:18:33.670 --> 00:18:35.530 don't think of this as I'm hosting a line. 00:18:35.530 --> 00:18:40.510 Just think of it as I'm going to say these words in the most 00:18:40.510 --> 00:18:41.907 different way I can think of. 00:18:41.907 --> 00:18:43.130 ELIZABETH CHOE: It's OK if it doesn't make any sense. 00:18:43.130 --> 00:18:44.150 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Yeah. 00:18:44.150 --> 00:18:46.900 AUDIENCE: Like, why do something handle cold better than others? 00:18:46.900 --> 00:18:48.150 GEORGE ZAIDAN: So valley girl. 00:18:48.150 --> 00:18:49.279 OK, good. 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:51.320 That was very different than your first delivery. 00:18:51.320 --> 00:18:52.142 Great. 00:18:52.142 --> 00:18:53.350 Remind me of your name again. 00:18:53.350 --> 00:18:54.170 AUDIENCE: Joshua. 00:18:54.170 --> 00:18:54.690 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Joshua. 00:18:54.690 --> 00:18:55.190 Go ahead. 00:18:55.190 --> 00:18:57.770 Do the first line totally different than the way you did 00:18:57.770 --> 00:19:00.144 it, and not valley girl either. 00:19:00.144 --> 00:19:02.597 AUDIENCE: Why do people some-- OK, let me try again. 00:19:02.597 --> 00:19:03.680 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Yeah, yeah. 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:04.512 AUDIENCE: Hey. 00:19:04.512 --> 00:19:07.410 Why do people sometimes handle cold better than others? 00:19:07.410 --> 00:19:08.160 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK. 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:09.240 That was an accent. 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:11.217 So great, very different. 00:19:11.217 --> 00:19:12.425 Remind me of your name again. 00:19:12.425 --> 00:19:12.700 AUDIENCE: Nathan. 00:19:12.700 --> 00:19:14.075 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Nathan, your turn. 00:19:16.070 --> 00:19:20.310 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle cold better than others? 00:19:20.310 --> 00:19:22.847 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Julia, yell the line. 00:19:22.847 --> 00:19:24.430 AUDIENCE: [YELLING] Why do some people 00:19:24.430 --> 00:19:26.870 handle cold better than others? 00:19:26.870 --> 00:19:29.950 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK, now, close your eyes. 00:19:29.950 --> 00:19:31.620 And just say it. 00:19:31.620 --> 00:19:32.736 Ask the question. 00:19:32.736 --> 00:19:35.900 AUDIENCE: Why do some people handle cold better than others? 00:19:35.900 --> 00:19:38.640 GEORGE ZAIDAN: OK, that was your best delivery. 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:39.440 I don't know why. 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:42.530 Sometimes getting people to step way outside their comfort zone 00:19:42.530 --> 00:19:45.580 and do a line in a totally ridiculous way 00:19:45.580 --> 00:19:49.610 that you would never actually use 00:19:49.610 --> 00:19:51.360 resets something in your mental circuitry. 00:19:51.360 --> 00:19:53.540 I have no explanation for why this works. 00:19:53.540 --> 00:19:56.949 But you get out of your normal, and then you just sort of do it 00:19:56.949 --> 00:19:58.490 the way that you would normally do it 00:19:58.490 --> 00:20:00.764 if you were talking to someone. 00:20:00.764 --> 00:20:02.180 That's a technique that we'll also 00:20:02.180 --> 00:20:04.070 use when we're in production. 00:20:04.070 --> 00:20:07.700 We'll be like, OK-- actually, we might even say, do 00:20:07.700 --> 00:20:08.870 this line as a valley girl. 00:20:08.870 --> 00:20:09.745 Do it with an accent. 00:20:09.745 --> 00:20:12.220 Yell it out loud. 00:20:12.220 --> 00:20:13.040 Do it like a robot. 00:20:13.040 --> 00:20:14.748 [TALKING LIKE A ROBOT] Why do some people 00:20:14.748 --> 00:20:16.992 handle cold better than others? 00:20:16.992 --> 00:20:18.450 And then do it in your normal-- why 00:20:18.450 --> 00:20:20.240 do some people handle cold better than others? 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:21.740 I mean, that was different than how 00:20:21.740 --> 00:20:23.224 I've done it every single time. 00:20:25.840 --> 00:20:27.430 What other hosting tech-- I mean, 00:20:27.430 --> 00:20:31.210 this is just one of those things that practice-- 00:20:31.210 --> 00:20:32.150 you need to practice. 00:20:32.150 --> 00:20:34.390 And you should do it, like I was saying earlier, 00:20:34.390 --> 00:20:35.867 with an audio recorder. 00:20:35.867 --> 00:20:36.950 You have them doing vlogs. 00:20:36.950 --> 00:20:37.210 Right? 00:20:37.210 --> 00:20:37.950 ELIZABETH CHOE: Mhm. 00:20:37.950 --> 00:20:39.658 GEORGE ZAIDAN: It might be good to change 00:20:39.658 --> 00:20:42.321 one of those assignments into an audio vlog versus a-- 00:20:42.321 --> 00:20:44.820 ELIZABETH CHOE: Yeah, actually, for your daily reflections-- 00:20:44.820 --> 00:20:47.585 I know Siri did a video just to make sure that you guys knew. 00:20:47.585 --> 00:20:49.720 But you don't have to do text reflections. 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:51.870 You can do an audio recording if you want. 00:20:51.870 --> 00:20:53.700 You can do a video blog if you want. 00:20:53.700 --> 00:20:55.610 And I think that's a great opportunity 00:20:55.610 --> 00:20:57.910 to practice some of this stuff. 00:20:57.910 --> 00:21:01.210 Your reflection last night, it was really good. 00:21:01.210 --> 00:21:03.100 It was really authentic. 00:21:03.100 --> 00:21:04.300 You weren't trying to host. 00:21:04.300 --> 00:21:07.750 But I thought you did a pretty good job on camera. 00:21:07.750 --> 00:21:10.512 And it was very different from your pitch. 00:21:10.512 --> 00:21:11.900 Right? 00:21:11.900 --> 00:21:14.340 I would suggest that you go back and watch yourself 00:21:14.340 --> 00:21:17.450 on both your pitch and on your blog last night. 00:21:17.450 --> 00:21:19.730 And you'll see a pretty surprising difference. 00:21:19.730 --> 00:21:21.750 And it happens to all of us. 00:21:21.750 --> 00:21:23.550 GEORGE ZAIDAN: When you listen to-- that's 00:21:23.550 --> 00:21:25.008 the other part of this is that once 00:21:25.008 --> 00:21:29.830 you do your vlog, reflection, or audio vlog, or whatever, 00:21:29.830 --> 00:21:32.780 listen to it, and see what you sound like. 00:21:32.780 --> 00:21:34.980 Do one where you're just talking off the cuff. 00:21:34.980 --> 00:21:36.770 You're like, today was great. 00:21:36.770 --> 00:21:37.900 We had this guy. 00:21:37.900 --> 00:21:38.830 He was terrible. 00:21:38.830 --> 00:21:40.914 But he had some good points, whatever, whatever. 00:21:40.914 --> 00:21:42.330 And then do one where you actually 00:21:42.330 --> 00:21:44.927 read-- you can read even this same paragraph if you want, 00:21:44.927 --> 00:21:46.510 or pick something that you've written. 00:21:46.510 --> 00:21:49.130 And listen to the difference. 00:21:49.130 --> 00:21:51.170 I think it's only by sort of really 00:21:51.170 --> 00:21:54.580 listening to yourself that you will learn to do this. 00:21:54.580 --> 00:21:55.080 Yeah? 00:21:55.080 --> 00:21:58.186 AUDIENCE: Have you ever tried to have people do practice 00:21:58.186 --> 00:22:00.900 dry-runs, and maybe tell them that it's not running-- 00:22:00.900 --> 00:22:04.732 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Yes, we do that all the time. 00:22:04.732 --> 00:22:06.190 We'll say, oh, this is a rehearsal. 00:22:06.190 --> 00:22:09.999 We're not rolling, but go ahead and deliver the line anyway. 00:22:09.999 --> 00:22:10.790 Sometimes it works. 00:22:10.790 --> 00:22:12.456 It usually doesn't, because you've still 00:22:12.456 --> 00:22:13.580 got the camera there. 00:22:13.580 --> 00:22:14.400 It's still-- 00:22:16.872 --> 00:22:18.330 ELIZABETH CHOE: And the other thing 00:22:18.330 --> 00:22:21.980 is even though we want you to sound as natural as possible, 00:22:21.980 --> 00:22:24.120 when it comes to the day of shooting, 00:22:24.120 --> 00:22:26.420 the more you've practiced your lines, 00:22:26.420 --> 00:22:29.197 it just takes out one more confounding variable that 00:22:29.197 --> 00:22:32.630 will stress you out during the day of shoot. 00:22:32.630 --> 00:22:34.734 The students, you can really tell if they've 00:22:34.734 --> 00:22:35.650 rehearsed their lines. 00:22:35.650 --> 00:22:38.160 Even if we end up changing a lot of the wording, 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:39.670 they're just much more comfortable, 00:22:39.670 --> 00:22:41.950 because they're not worrying about remembering things. 00:22:41.950 --> 00:22:45.480 They actually are thinking about the words that they're saying. 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:47.800 For tonight's assignment, it will just 00:22:47.800 --> 00:22:53.750 be to recreate your episode pitch. 00:22:53.750 --> 00:22:56.920 I would suggest that you redraft your script. 00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:58.900 We are going to do a table read next Monday. 00:22:58.900 --> 00:23:01.180 And there's no official assignment 00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:03.790 for another draft of a script until then. 00:23:03.790 --> 00:23:07.870 If you want feedback on any material that you write, 00:23:07.870 --> 00:23:13.318 which I would recommend, I am happy to give feedback. 00:23:13.318 --> 00:23:13.818 George-- 00:23:13.818 --> 00:23:15.120 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Yep, I'm going to write my email right now 00:23:15.120 --> 00:23:17.434 ELIZABETH CHOE: --is happy to give-- his email's also 00:23:17.434 --> 00:23:18.100 on the syllabus. 00:23:20.670 --> 00:23:22.760 We're all happy to give feedback. 00:23:22.760 --> 00:23:27.130 We will have traditional office hours today, tomorrow, Friday. 00:23:27.130 --> 00:23:29.700 So there's lots of opportunity for feedback 00:23:29.700 --> 00:23:32.010 before the table read. 00:23:32.010 --> 00:23:33.850 But just so you guys know for tonight, 00:23:33.850 --> 00:23:39.387 it's just a repitching of an idea for your episode. 00:23:39.387 --> 00:23:41.470 GEORGE ZAIDAN: That's all the material that I had. 00:23:41.470 --> 00:23:44.951 Does anyone have any questions in the two minutes remaining? 00:23:44.951 --> 00:23:46.200 And I'm going to stick around. 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.241 So if you guys want to chat with me individually, 00:23:48.241 --> 00:23:49.286 that's fine too. 00:23:49.286 --> 00:23:52.990 AUDIENCE: So basically, to host, just be yourself. 00:23:52.990 --> 00:23:54.800 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Yeah. 00:23:54.800 --> 00:23:58.932 To the most extent that you can, be yourself. 00:23:58.932 --> 00:24:00.890 ELIZABETH CHOE: And I mean there are exceptions 00:24:00.890 --> 00:24:03.960 to every single rule. 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.365 I know that when I host, I'm very different than I 00:24:06.365 --> 00:24:07.130 am in real life. 00:24:07.130 --> 00:24:07.685 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Not really. 00:24:07.685 --> 00:24:08.080 ELIZABETH CHOE: Really? 00:24:08.080 --> 00:24:09.571 GEORGE ZAIDAN: No, you're pretty similar. 00:24:09.571 --> 00:24:11.062 ELIZABETH CHOE: You said that my hosting persona 00:24:11.062 --> 00:24:12.560 was a lot different than you were expecting. 00:24:12.560 --> 00:24:14.351 GEORGE ZAIDAN: I was just messing with you. 00:24:16.958 --> 00:24:20.180 ELIZABETH CHOE: But for the most part, be yourself. 00:24:20.180 --> 00:24:21.680 And we mean that very literally. 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:23.350 Right? 00:24:23.350 --> 00:24:24.840 I don't know if you guys noticed, 00:24:24.840 --> 00:24:27.980 but that time you asked that question at the very end, 00:24:27.980 --> 00:24:30.905 it was how you would say it, and it was the best delivery. 00:24:30.905 --> 00:24:33.230 It really was. 00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:35.770 AUDIENCE: So less of like a pitch to get people excited, 00:24:35.770 --> 00:24:38.200 but just kind of explain what you're doing? 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:41.905 Because a pitch, just [INAUDIBLE] kind of 00:24:41.905 --> 00:24:42.680 like excited. 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:43.610 ELIZABETH CHOE: Well, when you think of pitch, 00:24:43.610 --> 00:24:44.670 you think of Shark Tank. 00:24:44.670 --> 00:24:49.620 And you think of, I have 30 seconds to buy into my idea. 00:24:49.620 --> 00:24:53.080 So I'm just going to be as loud and exaggerated as possible. 00:24:53.080 --> 00:24:55.860 So please don't mistake pitch for that. 00:24:55.860 --> 00:24:59.270 Keep it under a minute and a half. 00:24:59.270 --> 00:25:01.390 A lot of your videos were five and a half minutes. 00:25:01.390 --> 00:25:04.760 That's longer than your entire episode is going to be. 00:25:04.760 --> 00:25:07.700 Keep it under a minute and a half. 00:25:07.700 --> 00:25:09.700 Not just as a challenge, but that'll really help 00:25:09.700 --> 00:25:14.190 structure the way you deliver. 00:25:14.190 --> 00:25:17.190 And that should be the point of the video. 00:25:17.190 --> 00:25:21.446 So maybe don't think about it as a pitch as it is a point, 00:25:21.446 --> 00:25:22.320 like a thesis almost. 00:25:22.320 --> 00:25:24.600 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Think of it as explaining your video 00:25:24.600 --> 00:25:26.818 to someone else. 00:25:26.818 --> 00:25:31.780 AUDIENCE: So it's not the actual stuff that you wrote? 00:25:31.780 --> 00:25:33.580 ELIZABETH CHOE: It's like a trailer. 00:25:33.580 --> 00:25:35.650 GEORGE ZAIDAN: Remember-- Paul, right? 00:25:35.650 --> 00:25:37.910 Remember when Paul was doing his shoebox thing. 00:25:37.910 --> 00:25:38.560 It's that. 00:25:43.330 --> 00:25:45.779 AUDIENCE: I don't think I have a shoebox, but-- 00:25:45.779 --> 00:25:47.320 GEORGE ZAIDAN: You can just mime one. 00:25:47.320 --> 00:25:49.900 ELIZABETH CHOE: We've got a budget for a cardboard box. 00:25:49.900 --> 00:25:51.160 Let me tell you. 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:55.100 GEORGE ZAIDAN: We've got about $1.50. 00:25:55.100 --> 00:25:56.310 OK, thanks, guys. 00:25:56.310 --> 00:25:57.393 ELIZABETH CHOE: All right. 00:25:57.393 --> 00:26:00.170 We'll stick around for a while if you guys have questions.