1 00:00:04,899 --> 00:00:07,190 DAVID THORBURN: One of the central arguments of my film 2 00:00:07,190 --> 00:00:08,689 course-- and this is one of the ways 3 00:00:08,689 --> 00:00:11,250 it's different from a traditional film 4 00:00:11,250 --> 00:00:13,770 course in a university, in a cinema studies 5 00:00:13,770 --> 00:00:17,950 program, or even in an English department-- is that it sees 6 00:00:17,950 --> 00:00:20,950 the advent of television as a critical factor in the history 7 00:00:20,950 --> 00:00:24,400 of the movies, much more central and critical than most 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,390 contemporary histories acknowledge. 9 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:29,120 Because what I try to show is that the function 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,000 that the movies had in American society before the advent 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,940 of television was the function that the novel had 12 00:00:34,940 --> 00:00:37,250 in the 19th Century in Europe, and the function 13 00:00:37,250 --> 00:00:40,030 that Shakespeare's public theater had in Shakespeare's 14 00:00:40,030 --> 00:00:45,580 day, a form of popular narrative that's articulated a kind of 15 00:00:45,580 --> 00:00:48,990 assumed or imagine consensus of values 16 00:00:48,990 --> 00:00:50,840 for the whole of the society. 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,180 That made it a culturally, and anthropologically, 18 00:00:53,180 --> 00:00:58,260 and socially much more important medium 19 00:00:58,260 --> 00:01:01,000 then a mere artistic medium, even 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,790 though it's artistic quality remains very important. 21 00:01:03,790 --> 00:01:06,330 So that one of the ironies of entertainment 22 00:01:06,330 --> 00:01:08,800 is it can become a space, especially 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,400 public forms of entertainment in cultures, 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,270 like Shakespeare's public theater, 25 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:16,630 or like the public theater of the American movie 26 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:20,840 system in the studio era, these public spaces can become spaces 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,310 in which the body politic, the political and social community 28 00:01:25,310 --> 00:01:28,330 entertains ideas about its own nature, 29 00:01:28,330 --> 00:01:31,460 entertains, considers, speculates, 30 00:01:31,460 --> 00:01:35,480 holds in its mind accounts of its origins, 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,650 stories of its values And what we can say then 32 00:01:38,650 --> 00:01:40,610 is that the space of entertainment 33 00:01:40,610 --> 00:01:44,310 becomes from in a certain angle in virtually all societies, 34 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:48,470 a space of discourse, a space in which-- exactly because it's 35 00:01:48,470 --> 00:01:52,420 a space recognized as not real, as make believe, 36 00:01:52,420 --> 00:01:57,060 is therefore licensed or allowed to explore possibilities 37 00:01:57,060 --> 00:02:00,640 that might be too dangerous or too disturbing to explore 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:01,850 in other way. 39 00:02:01,850 --> 00:02:05,910 And I taught both television and film in this way. 40 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:09,130 In an ironic way, it's a deeply literary way 41 00:02:09,130 --> 00:02:10,330 to teach the medium. 42 00:02:10,330 --> 00:02:12,830 So the argument ends up being that the movies 43 00:02:12,830 --> 00:02:16,100 after television, the movies after about 1970, 44 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:17,850 are profoundly a different animal. 45 00:02:17,850 --> 00:02:19,860 The old studio system is dead. 46 00:02:19,860 --> 00:02:22,760 Movies have become much more single, 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,940 individual deal-making events using great stars, 48 00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:30,010 and particularly bankable scriptwriters, and scripts, 49 00:02:30,010 --> 00:02:32,450 and so forth, nothing like the great factory 50 00:02:32,450 --> 00:02:36,570 for the making of stories, the story machine 51 00:02:36,570 --> 00:02:41,350 that the movies had been until the advent of television, 52 00:02:41,350 --> 00:02:45,170 and that television became as it took on that consensus 53 00:02:45,170 --> 00:02:46,270 function. 54 00:02:46,270 --> 00:02:49,360 I think it's a powerful and central insight that 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,650 helps to explain the tremendous changes that 56 00:02:52,650 --> 00:02:56,610 overtake American movies after, certainly, 57 00:02:56,610 --> 00:02:59,370 after 1970 and beyond. 58 00:02:59,370 --> 00:03:01,570 Another way in which I think my film course 59 00:03:01,570 --> 00:03:06,040 is not fully a film course, even though every text we study 60 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,750 is a movie, all the scholarship site is movie schol-- not all. 61 00:03:10,750 --> 00:03:13,120 But some is movie scholarship. 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,960 And I try to teach them about the history of film in ways 63 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,860 that I think are helpful to them. 64 00:03:17,860 --> 00:03:20,120 But there is a profoundly literary dimension 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:20,980 to my teaching. 66 00:03:20,980 --> 00:03:23,850 And I think of as deeply as a literature course. 67 00:03:23,850 --> 00:03:25,560 It's a course that, if a student takes, 68 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,670 serves as a prerequisite for advanced subjects in literature 69 00:03:28,670 --> 00:03:30,070 as well as in media. 70 00:03:30,070 --> 00:03:31,660 And my reasons for that is that I 71 00:03:31,660 --> 00:03:36,530 treat the problems one confronts in a film from the perspective 72 00:03:36,530 --> 00:03:39,260 of a professor of literature, from the perspective of one 73 00:03:39,260 --> 00:03:41,540 who's a specialist in narrative. 74 00:03:41,540 --> 00:03:44,970 Remember, many of the narratives that I have taught all my life 75 00:03:44,970 --> 00:03:48,050 we're not printed texts like novels. 76 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:51,350 They wear all narratives, like Homer's Odyssey. 77 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:53,300 Or, they were dramatic presentations. 78 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:55,800 Like Shakespeare's plays. 79 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,400 Literature has never meant simply printed text. 80 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,110 And I think my field is narrative of all sorts. 81 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:05,700 And what I try to do is show them, among other things, 82 00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:07,820 certain kinds of linkages or continuities 83 00:04:07,820 --> 00:04:10,870 across different forms of narrative. 84 00:04:10,870 --> 00:04:13,270 And I certainly try to make them see 85 00:04:13,270 --> 00:04:16,950 that movies in a certain era, television in another era, 86 00:04:16,950 --> 00:04:19,860 were like the literature of earlier eras. 87 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:24,170 And it makes my film course a much more centrally literary 88 00:04:24,170 --> 00:04:27,100 and humanistic subject than would be the case if it 89 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:30,320 were taught in a more conventional kind of cinema 90 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,240 studies sequence.