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ARTHUR BAHR: Everybody,
go ahead and open up

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to chapter 6 of Baker, Nouns.

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So the good news about nouns
is that the strong noun endings

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should have looked familiar
at least, some elements,

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from the pronoun paradigms
that you memorized for Monday.

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If we take a look at
the top of page 51,

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this boxed section is helpful.

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So patterns within
the paradigms--

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the neuter and masculine
genitive singular forms

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are always going to be the same.

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All dative singular
forms are the same

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within each major declension.

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And then these next
two are very helpful.

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All genitive plural
forms end in A.

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We started to see that
just last time when we

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were doing our first mini-text.

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And all dative plural
forms end in -um.

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And then as it says, there are
resemblances between the noun

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and pronoun paradigms.

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Now, Old English is different
from modern English, in that it

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has two different kinds
of nouns-- strong nouns

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and weak nouns, as you
discovered for today.

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The strong noun
endings, on table 6.1,

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that is right up there
with tables 5.3 and 5.4.

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6.1 is going to be
on every single exam,

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just like 5.3 and 5.4.

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So these are three of the four--

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these are three of the four
paradigms that are just--

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it's just easy, easy
money, easy points,

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however you want to think of it.

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Memorize this now
and you will never

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have to think of it again.

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You do not need to
memorize the weak verb--

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sorry, the weak noun endings.

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But you will need to be
able to recognize them.

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I'll get back to-- or deal with
them, I suppose I should say.

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We'll get back to
that in a moment.

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But for strong nouns,
these are the endings

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that you need to know.

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And 6.2 and 6.3
put those nouns--

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or rather, put those
endings onto specific nouns

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so that you can see
them in the flesh,

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as it were, as opposed to
just disembodied case endings.

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Now, one thing to note is
that neuter plural nouns

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very often look the same
as neuter singular nouns.

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And as Baker points out
at the bottom of 52,

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an endingless plural may seem
like a great inconvenience

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at first.

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How will you be able to
tell a plural if you see it?

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In practice, you'll find
that one of three things

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will be true when you come
across an endingless neuter--

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either a nearby pronoun will
tell you what you need to know,

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so þæt þing is singular, "that
thing," þā þing is plural.

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And you know that
because of the þā.

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Again, this is why
the pronouns are

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so important because
pronouns generally give you

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more information than nouns.

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So you're often going to
have to be using the pronouns

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as your guide, all right?

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Or, Baker, goes on, "The
context will make it clear

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whether the noun is singular, or
plural; or 3) It won't matter."

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I'm not quite sure
what that means.

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One might suppose that
it would always matter.

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But whatever, it's fine.

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If you stay alert
to the likelihood

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that some plural nouns
will lack endings,

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you won't get into trouble.

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Also, because the
masculine strong--

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and indeed, the
neuter strong noun--

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look the same in the
nominative and the accusative,

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you'll need to be flexible.

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You'll need to keep your
mind flexible in terms

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of whether a given noun is
accusative or nominative.

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And again, the pronoun is
often going to help you.

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So se stān versus þone stān.

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And we're going to come
back to some stones

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later on when we get
to the mini-text.

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All right, so
that's strong nouns.

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Take a look at weak nouns
on page 54, table 6.4.

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So what do you notice,
just off the top of your--

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what do you notice immediately
about the weak noun endings?

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Yeah, Alyssa.

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AUDIENCE: They do
follow our rules about,

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oh, genitive plural
always ends in -a,

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dative always ends
in -um, like that.

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But other than that, there's
very few unique endings.

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ARTHUR BAHR: Very few
unique endings, well put.

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So -an, all over the place.

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And -an is going
to be one of your--

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for that reason, -an is
going to be one of your most

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challenging, frankly, endings
when you see an Old English

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word because, in addition to--

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it can be-- -an is--

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I think we discussed
last time, -an

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is the typical ending
for an infinitive,

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that is to say a verb,
your base verb form.

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But it is also
accusative singular

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masculine, accusative
singular feminine,

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genitive of any of them,
dative singular of any of them,

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nominative or accusative plural
of any of them, tons of things.

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So yeah, -an is often
going to be the puzzle.

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-an words are often going to
be the puzzle that you have

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to figure out, that you have to
use other parts of the sentence

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in order to solve
for, as it were,

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the confusing -an word
in a sentence, all right?

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And Baker goes into this a
little bit on pages 54 and 55.

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"Don't lose heart," he
says at the top of 55.

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"Writers of Old
English, when they

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wanted to be
understood--" I like

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how he leaves open the
possibility that they also

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perhaps did not sometimes
want to be understood--

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"did not write
clauses containing

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unresolvable ambiguities.

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After you've puzzled out
a few difficult instances

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of weak nouns, you should
start to get the hang of them."

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I realize that sounds like
perhaps unhelpful reassurance

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at the moment.

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But my experience teaching
Old English over the years

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suggests that this
is, indeed, the case

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and that as long as you
know, as long as you're

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aware of the challenge
going in, you

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should be able to figure it out
as you get more practice, OK?

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All of these next--

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the athematic nouns,
6.1.3, you do not

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have to memorize any of these.

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You don't have to
memorize any of this.

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But you do need to be
cognizant of the fact

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that some nouns
are going to change

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their internal vowel as they
get declined in various cases.

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So this means that
if you're looking up

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the word hnyte, the
genitive singular of hnutu--

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I just think that's a super
adorable word, hnutu, hnutu--

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You may need to be flexible
in and how you look it up.

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This is something
that, if you've

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studied an ancient language,
will not be unfamiliar to you.

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But if you haven't, it may
be, that using the glossary,

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using the dictionary involves a
little bit of trial and error,

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shall we say, in a way that is
not true if you just look up

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a word in modern
English and you can

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be confident of its spelling.

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So as we get into reading,
you will definitely

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get more experience with this.

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Any questions about these
first few pages of chapter 6?

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Yeah, [INAUDIBLE]

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AUDIENCE: How can we
be sure that these

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are I-mutations that we see
and not alternative spellings?

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ARTHUR BAHR: Ah, that's
a very good question.

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The short answer is
that alternate spellings

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are most common with pronouns.

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And you don't have it--

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it's less likely
to be the case--

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you're less likely to have
that for just a random noun.

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So in general, I mean,
the slightly longer answer

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is that miss--

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not misspellings,
alternate spellings

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aren't going to follow any
particular-- aren't necessarily

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going to follow a particular
rule, whereas I-mutation

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is a particular set of sound
changes that always happen.

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And you can go back to table
2.2.2, which was back on page--

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back on page 17, table 2.1.

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That gives you the rules
for how I-mutation works.

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And if you say allowed
those shifts from unmutated

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to mutated, you'll start
to hear them in your--

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well, you'll start to hear them.

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And that'll start
to give you a sense

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of the difference between
I-mutation and other forms

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of irregularity.

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But for the most part, I
wouldn't worry about it

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too much.

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Yeah, Alyssa?

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AUDIENCE: Just to be
clear, despite the fact

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that I-mutation from
[a] to [æ] is also

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like the connection
between those,

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the stem changes and things like
daga are distinct from that,

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right?

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ARTHUR BAHR: That's
correct, yes.

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AUDIENCE: It was a separate
linguistic process.

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ARTHUR BAHR: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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AUDIENCE: That's why
it's not the same places

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in the paradigm.

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ARTHUR BAHR: Now,
you're looking-- now

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you're looking further along.

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AUDIENCE: Yeah.

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ARTHUR BAHR: 6.8.

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Yeah, exactly.

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AUDIENCE: There was also
slightly different treatment

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of these different stem
changes in Baker versus--

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ARTHUR BAHR: Mitchell
and Robinson?

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AUDIENCE: Mitchell
and Robinson, how

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they group them or whatever.

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It was a little bit different.

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ARTHUR BAHR: Yeah, yeah.

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And since I'm not deeply
invested in all of the ins

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and outs of these subsets
of nouns, but yeah.

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I mean, the short answer is
don't worry about it too much,

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frankly.

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Take the measure-- well,
I'm actually just going to--

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I'm actually just
going to go in order.

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We'll get two more strong
nouns in due course.

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So page 56 and 57,
6.1.4, the noun phrase--

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so really, all this
is trying to do here

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is encourage you to look at the
noun in an Old English sentence

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in its fuller--

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in its bigger picture,
the bigger context.

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So that means looking for the
adjectives and the pronouns

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that go with the noun
because often the noun

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itself is not going
to tell you as much.

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It's not going to give
you as much information

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as the pronoun or the adjective.

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We haven't gotten
to adjectives yet.

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But trust me, it's true.

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So for example, the
demonstrative pronoun se

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resolves the ambiguity of who
the subject of that sentence

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is toward the bottom of page 56.

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Þa sende se cyning
et cetera, et cetera.

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We always know that se is what?

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AUDIENCE: Nominative.

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ARTHUR BAHR: Nominative?

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AUDIENCE: Singular masculine.

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ARTHUR BAHR: Singular masculine,
nominative singular masculine.

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Exactly, very good.

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Whereas þone is always
going to be accusative

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singular masculine.

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So those unambiguous
pronoun forms

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are some of your best
friends in the language

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because they are going to help
you parse the sentence pretty

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readily.

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Let's take a look at page
57, the bottom of the--

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the bottom of that section.

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Careful attention
to the noun phrase

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can help you resolve the
ambiguities of the endless--

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sorry, endingless neuter
plural discussed above.

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þā ġeseah hē þā wīf
and hira lȳtlingas

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and cwæð, hwæt synd þæs?

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So then he looked at the
women and their children.

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So wīf because the Old
English word for woman

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is grammatically neuter, wīf
has no ending in the plural.

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But you know that it's
plural because of the þā

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since þā is plural.

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So if it were, "Then he looked
at the woman," in the singular,

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what would that þā be instead?

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AUDIENCE: þæt.

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ARTHUR BAHR: þæt, exactly.

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þā ġeseah hē þæt wīf.

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That would be singular.

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Very good.

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All right, so more about strong
nouns on the following pages,

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58 through 60.

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Again, these are not--

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to I'm not actually
going to really go

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into this because they
all still-- you'll

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see that they all still have
the strong noun endings.

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And that's the most
important thing.

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The other slight
shifts I'm not going

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to test you on, all right?

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A few minor declensions--

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for whatever reason, the
words for family relationships

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in Old English tend to be--

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like brother and daughter,
as you see on 612--

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they seem to be-- they're
unusual in various ways.

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But other than that, not much
to see, not much to see there.

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This is really just in
the interest of fullness.

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This is the completionist part
of the chapter, all right?

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So the long story short
of this is you must know--

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you must memorize table 6.1
with the strong noun endings.

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And you must be
comfortable enough

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with the weak noun
endings of table 6.4

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that you are able to
disambiguate them and work

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with them when it comes to
sight translation on the exam,

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all right?

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So those are your main those
are your main challenges.

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And we're going to
put those skills

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to the test in the
next part of class,

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at the bottom of page 62.

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We're going to read "A
Miracle of Saint Benedict"

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from Bishop Waerforth
of Worcester's Old

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English translation of the
dialogues of Pope Gregory

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the Great.

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And what I love about Baker, the
reason I use this text instead

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of Mitchell and Robinson,
which is what I learned with--

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what I love about Baker is that
it starts us really working

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with Old English almost from the
very beginning of our encounter

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with the language
because that's really--

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I mean, when I think back to
how I learned Old English,

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and how I learned Latin,
and how I learned Greek,

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and how I learned all
of the dead languages

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that I've learned, the
reason that I'm not

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as good at knowing them as
I am at the modern languages

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that I've learned is that I
never had to use them actively.

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It was always passive.

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It was always
passive recognition

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of the forms for passive
reading of the language.

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And it wasn't until I did this
Living Latin course in Rome

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where we all had to speak Latin,
and the class was in Latin,

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and it was super fun
that I was like, oh yeah,

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Latin is not an
unspeakable language.

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I mean, the professor
was so great.

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He was like, people
think Latin is hard.

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It's like stupid,
stupid, stupid Romans

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spoke Latin totally fluently.

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It is not an impossible
language to learn to speak.

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People did.

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It's just that we don't, and
similarly with Old English.

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So although we're not learning
to speak Old English--

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that's not yet a bridge
I've tried to cross--

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we are going to be trying
to learn it as actively as

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possible, all right?

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