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MARK HARVEY: I'll begin by
just saying a little bit

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about modal music, which
is what we're talking about

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and also George
Russell, and then I'm

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going to talk about
a piece of mine

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if there's time enough
for it, all of which

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use the modal concept
and all of which

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are examples of extended form.

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Some of you have had
some of my other classes,

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you may have
remembered me talking

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about this to some extent.

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Extended form is what's used in
jazz to mean larger structure.

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When we talk about form
in jazz, we usually

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mean 12-bar blues, 32-bar
song, form shorter formats.

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Extended form, even though
it uses the word form,

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it really should say
extended structure,

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but nobody says that, so
they all say extended form.

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And this came into
being, as many things

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did, with Duke Ellington.

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He was always there
ahead of everybody else.

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1931, "Creole Rhapsody"
is the first extended form

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piece in jazz, 6 minutes.

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Doesn't sound like
much, but the thing was,

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recordings could
only go 3 minutes.

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And so Ellington was always
very creative as well as

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very clever.

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So he figured out
if you put a piece

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and then you had
a companion piece,

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you'd have to flip the record
over to hear the whole piece.

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So it's a six-minute
piece, "Creole Rhapsody."

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Then we talked about 1943,
Black, Brown & Beige.

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That's a really extended
piece, 45 minutes long.

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You remember, we talked
about "Come Sunday" from that

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and talked about the
whole scope of the piece.

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So those were the precursors.

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Then you get the things
like "Cubana Be-Cubana Bop,"

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which is also by George
Russell with Dizzy

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Gillespie in the late 1940s.

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And then we have
these pieces here,

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which I'm going to
talk about and play,

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"All About Rosie" and African
Game, by George Russell,

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and let's say if I get time,
my own piece, "The Secret."

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Now, the commonalities
here are that these are all

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extended form pieces.

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They're all relatively
long pieces.

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"All about Rosie" is 10
minutes, but it sounds, in fact,

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like it's longer than
it is, it's so dense.

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Living time, I believe
is about 40 minutes.

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I'll say something about that.

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African Game is
about 40 minutes.

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My piece is about,
anywhere from 15 to 18,

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depending on the length of the
solos and that kind of thing.

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Another thing that's
common about these

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is that these were all
commissioned works,

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and that's another
phenomenon that

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started to come into being
in about the 1950s, which

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is that, just as
with classical music,

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you sometimes have people being
given a grant, composer given

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a grant, and the idea is
you will then create music

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based on this.

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It frees you up, in other
words, from doing other things,

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so you can concentrate
on your composer.

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Very rare in jazz.

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In 1957, "All About
Rosie," the first piece

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we're going to talk
about, was a product

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of the Brandeis Festival
of the Arts, which

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was something organized by
Gunther Schuller, a name.

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I hope you're all
familiar with, one

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of our great composers and
really, scholars of music,

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frequent advocate and player on
both jazz and classical things.

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And Schuller got the idea
that if he commissioned--

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this was the time of third
stream music, the fusion

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of jazz and classical.

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He got the idea that if
you commissioned three

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classical composers,
himself being one of them,

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and three jazz
composers, it might

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be an interesting
program, and it was,

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of some very distinct pieces.

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Every piece was different
from the other one,

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and the piece that
George Russell wrote

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has become a classic, and that's
what we're going to look at.

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Before we get into this,
I want to say a little bit

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about the modal
approach, and there's

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some of you, may be three
or four who had the jazz

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composition course.

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I don't think we did this in
the jazz harmony and arranging,

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but in the jazz
composing, so you may

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remember some of these things.

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George Russell, in
addition to being

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one of our premier
composers, was also

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a theorist, is also a theorist.

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And in 1953, he
published something

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that's called the Lydian--

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after the Lydian mode--

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Lydian Chromatic Concept
of Tonal Organization.

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It's very catchy,
Lydian Chromatic Concept

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of Tonal Organization.

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Some of you have heard
me in other courses

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mention the ECU, which
I call the expanded

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chromatic universe, which is my
shorthand for both the Lydian

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Chromatic Concept
plus everything

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that's happened since bebop.

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Let me just come clean and
say I was a student of George

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Russell, so some
of this has just

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been ingrained in my thinking.

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This is a very
complicated theory.

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We have the book that was
published many years ago

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in our library, if you
want to look at this,

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but it takes a lot of study.

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It involves the Lydian scale,
which George Russell believed

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with the scale that
most clearly expressed

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the sound of a major chord.

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What that means is for him, if
you had the chord C, to him,

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raised fourth or
we would say flat 5

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and jazz is the scale that
most clearly expresses that.

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Many people wouldn't
hear it that way.

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But if you're a jazz
person, if you've come out

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of Dizzy Gillespie
and Charlie Parker,

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this makes a lot of sense.

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In any case, his
whole theory is based

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on what he calls parent
scales and/or modes

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and auxiliary, ones that
are related to them.

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It's basically a pan modal
and a pan tonal system,

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which means once you understand
what the parent scale

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or mode is, virtually,
any other mode or scale

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is possible to be
related to that.

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So it's almost like
a relativity theory,

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but it's very different than
Schoenberg's relativity theory

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of 12-tone music,
because it's still based

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in a tonal center of some.

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Let me put that here too.

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The tonal center is very
much part of African music,

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very much part of
African-American music,

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and along with
that, goes the idea

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of centric melody, a melody
that centers around a tone.

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So if you have F as
your centering tone,

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you can go below it, you can go
above it, and come back to it.

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And what we have there
is a pentatonic scale

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in F, the major mode of
the pentatonic scale,

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but F is the centering tone.

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And over and over again,
you hear melodic fragments

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in African music, in
African-American music,

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in the blues, and jazz
that function this way,

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but it's a particular
way of thinking.

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So we don't necessarily
think of F as the tonic,

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we think of it as the tonal
center, and in this concept,

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you can have several tonal
centers at the same time, which

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gives you a sense of pan
modality or pan tonality.

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Russell is also the one,
as far as I can tell,

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who basically came
up with the terms

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inside and outside,
which we use commonly.

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Musicians use this all the time.

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If you're playing
more conservatively,

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you say you're playing inside.

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If you begin to stretch things,
play with additional tones,

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extensions, whatever.

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People say always
playing outside.

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If you play really
outside, they say

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you're playing in an avant
garde manner or you're crazy

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or something else.

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Inside and outside.

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Vertical form is
a way of thinking

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about how you structure things.

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Vertical form is
Russell's conception,

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but it's basically an African
conception, meaning polyphony

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and polyrhythm, several
layers of things going on.

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If you think about what
you know about jazz

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and the history of it, you
know that that went away

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with New Orleans, the whole idea
of polyphony and polyrhythm.

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And one of the other byproducts
of the post bebop era

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was that many more people
began to be writers,

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began to be composers.

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And so with that,
they were looking

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for more interesting
ways, things to explore,

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things to do with the music
that hadn't been there before.

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I want to read something
from those readings

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that I had mentioned
to you the other day,

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the ones that are
on reserve, and I

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have the call number for that.

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I can give that to you.

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There is three articles under
the name of Dom Cerulli, who

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was the editor of
this collection,

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and the last of these,
I think is actually

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maybe the first in my packet,
but it's the last in the book

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that I took this from.

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It's called "Where
Do We Go From Here?"

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And this is about 1959 or 1960.

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It's an interview
with George Russell.

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And he says, "I think the
core of the problem today

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is simply that there are too
many writers without enough

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melodic equipment to
influence the soloist."

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He's talking about the
interface between the soloist

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and the writer.

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If you think back to
bebop, Charlie Parker

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was a great melodist.

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He improvised magnificently.

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His tunes sound like
his improvisations.

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His tunes then spur you to
improvise in that manner.

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This is what he's talking about.

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And then he says
this, which I think

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is really interesting, "What's
going to happen in the future?"

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he's being asked.

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"It's going to be a pan
rhythmic, pan tonal age.

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I think jazz will bypass
atonality because jazz actually

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has its roots in folk
music, and folk music

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is scale based, and
atonality negates the scale.

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I think jazz will be
intensely chromatic."

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"This will be
called pan tonality,

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where the basic folk nature
of scales is preserved,

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and yet because we can
use any number of scales

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or you can be in any number
of tonalities at once,

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it also creates a very
chromatic kind of feeling.

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So it's like being atonal
with a big Bill Broonzy sound.

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You can retain the funk."

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I like that.

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So this is an article that
was derived from an interview

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that Russell did
about 1959 or 1960.

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It's unspecified, but the
book came out in 1960.

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This piece is from a
couple of years earlier,

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and my own feeling is that
this piece, "All About Rosie,"

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is the musical
expression of what he

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said, what I just read to you.

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In other words, he has
the theoretical side,

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the philosophical side,
this piece expresses it,

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I think, in musical
terms very, very well.

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So let's take a look at this.

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I've given you the first of
two handouts, three handouts,

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actually, I'm going to give you.

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And if you will look at on
page 1 of this, it says intro

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and then it says
trumpet, you'll notice

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these are almost exactly the
notes that I wrote on the board

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here for the
pentatonic scale in F,

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except it's got a little
more rhythmic inflection.

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You'll notice there's a
little phrase that dips down

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in the horn and tenor sax.

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This is an ensemble
that was put together

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at this Brandeis
Festival that happened

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to have French horn,
bassoon, a couple

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of interesting instruments,
not a full big band,

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but about a 12-piece group.

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And then you'll notice
there's another place where

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it says trombone.

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Does everybody see this?

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This is all in the first system.

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These are the two phrases
that basically make this up.

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The term Rosie comes from
a children's game song

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from Alabama, African-American
children's game song

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called, "Rosie, Little Rosie."

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And so what he's done
is take a folk melody--

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Russell is African-American--
take a folk melody

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from his own tradition, his own
heritage, and begin with that.

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Let me just play this, so
you have it in your ears.

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And there's a
little pickup note.

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[MUSIC]

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That's the response.

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[MUSIC]

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Let me play that again.

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[MUSIC]

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Centric melody.

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Centers around the F,
which is the tonal center.

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Very nice kind of a little idea.

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What do you notice
about this right away

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that's a little bit
different than the way

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we would normally think of
these phrases, especially

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folk-type phrases?

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Just what I've
talked about so far.

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AUDIENCE: Can you say
that one more time?

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MARK HARVEY: Given what
you know about the way

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folk phrases usually
work in folk music,

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what's different about this?

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AUDIENCE: Just another root.

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MARK HARVEY: Well,
the second one does.

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The first one doesn't,
but it ends on the third.

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AUDIENCE: Time.

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MARK HARVEY: Hm?

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AUDIENCE: Sounds
like [INAUDIBLE]..

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It doesn't wait
till the downbeat.

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[INAUDIBLE]

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MARK HARVEY: Say that again.

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AUDIENCE: It doesn't
wait till the downbeat.

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It doesn't wait
till the downbeat

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of whichever bar [INAUDIBLE].

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It comes in halfway through.

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MARK HARVEY: OK.

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So normally, we would
think of two bar phrases.

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Badu, dut, dut, dut, dut, dut.

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Badat, dut, dut,
dut, dut, dut, dut.

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That's the convention,
very symmetrical,

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even in a lot of folk music.

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So he's compressing this,
and he puts that response in,

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which is not a bad thing
to do, but sometimes you

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would say, well, maybe that
response would hold out

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through the bar, which it does.

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But then you'd wait for badat,
dut, dut, dut, de, dut, dut,

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dut, the wait a little bit.

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So he's got all of this
compressed into five

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bars, which is kind of unusual.

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So this follows through
this first section.

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This is in three movements,
by the way, "All About Rosie,"

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and the whole first movement,
he uses this five-bar phrase,

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which is very atypical
for this period.

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He uses that a lot.

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You'll see at bar 6,
which is the second time

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of the five-bar phrase, it
does the same kind of thing.

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The response is just
slightly different.

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When we go to letter A what
happens with the basic melody?

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Flute and alto sax have it now.

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What do you notice happening?

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AUDIENCE: The
response is similar.

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MARK HARVEY: How so?

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AUDIENCE: They're
holding notes instead

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of having some melodic interest,
like the trombone is doing F3.

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MARK HARVEY: OK.

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And what about flute and
alto sax right a letter A?

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AUDIENCE: It's a
little more interesting

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that here in bar 1, just fourth
quarters notes, and at A, just

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running the eighth note out
into a tight quarter, sort

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of changing the time around.

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MARK HARVEY: OK, a
little rhythmic change.

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And what about the second bar?

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AUDIENCE: Is that just
A flat, it goes up.

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MARK HARVEY: It
goes up to the beat.

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So we've added a
note, and that's also,

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in fact, it adds the
B flat and the A,

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and then the A gets held out.

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So this is what I call an
elaboration and an elongation.

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So it's no longer, badu,
dut, dut, dut, dut, dut, dut,

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it's now--

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and it's an extra
pickup note-- bada,

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da instead of badat, du,
du, du, du, du, it's now,

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bada, du, du, du,
du, du, du, de, da,

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and then it holds that out.

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The same way that the response,
which you noted, is elongated.

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So everything right
away, in other words,

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we're only 10 bars
into the tune,

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and right away, he's
messing with things.

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He's doing a very jazz thing,
which is to paraphrase.

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If you were an improviser,
you would paraphrase.

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So in other words, he's trying
to think, as a composer,

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he's trying to think
like an improviser.

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And as you've heard
me say many times,

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an improviser is a composer.

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So he's really trying to do what
he said in that article, which

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is to keep this balance and
in fact, to keep a intuitive

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relationship.

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If we go down to where it
says letter A, number 21,

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it's those three single staves
at the bottom, the third one

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up.

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We've got a similar rhythmic
pattern, but at the very end,

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you'll notice it goes
F, A flat, A natural.

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What's that?

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What is that bringing
into the mix?

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If we're using a tonal center
of F, what's that bringing in?

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AUDIENCE: Minor.

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MARK HARVEY: Minor and
major, which we call--

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AUDIENCE: Quality.

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MARK HARVEY: Quality
change, in which we call--

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AUDIENCE: Modal.

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MARK HARVEY: Partially
modal, partially--

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AUDIENCE: Chromatic.

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MARK HARVEY: Right.

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Partially-- in the
blues, think blues.

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AUDIENCE: Pentatonic.

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MARK HARVEY: Yeah, but big
Bill Broonzy retains the funk,

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but he's complex.

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What do we call this?

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If the tonal center
is F and we have

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both A flat and A natural--

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AUDIENCE: Atonal?

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MARK HARVEY: Yeah,
we can say all that.

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There's a simpler way.

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It's the ambiguity of the third.

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Remember that?

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We talked about the blues, it's
the ambiguous third degree.

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Third degree tells
you major or minor.

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Here, you've got both,
one after the other.

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You could have them right
together like Thelonious Monk.

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You could have one
on top of the other

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if it was a chord, which
would be a sharp 9.

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But this is the first time
it's been introduced is

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this little flat, third idea.

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This is a folk form.

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A folk form is not
necessarily the blues,

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but if you go way
back, you know that all

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of that folk music from the
African-American experience

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goes into the blues.

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So this is very
much a part of that.

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This is based on a folk tune.

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He's giving you already a little
complicated, a little complex

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composers maneuver, five
bar phrases all this stuff,

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but now all of a sudden,
he's put in the blues.

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So he's taking us a
little bit on a journey

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is what's going on.

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If you look at
letter B, which is

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the second line from
the bottom, now, we've

00:19:26.030 --> 00:19:27.960 align:middle line:84%
got almost exactly
the same thing,

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except it's up a whole step.

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He's changing the
modal relationship.

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And if we get to C, we've got
a little riff-like figure.

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But this little riff-like
figure with that

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A flat, G flat, A
flat, A natural,

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there's, again, that bluesy
idea, but this little riff-like

00:19:44.390 --> 00:19:46.490 align:middle line:84%
figure, is also,
you can trace that

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as being related to
what's right above it.

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If you look up there at letter
B, bada, du, da, da, da, da,

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da, da.

00:19:54.725 --> 00:19:55.838 align:middle line:90%
Da, da, da, da.

00:19:55.838 --> 00:19:56.630 align:middle line:90%
What's that rhythm?

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Da, da, da, da.

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Da, da, da, da, and he's
got that same rhythm here

00:20:00.650 --> 00:20:01.520 align:middle line:90%
in this riff.

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Da, da, da, da, except he comes
in a little ahead of time.

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So this is what a composer does.

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A composer thinks
about the elements,

00:20:10.430 --> 00:20:12.080 align:middle line:84%
you could call
them the variables,

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and how you can manipulate
those, how you can extend them,

00:20:15.050 --> 00:20:17.870 align:middle line:84%
how you can use them
in different facets.

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We're all composers, so
this is the kind of thing

00:20:20.277 --> 00:20:21.860 align:middle line:84%
we want to start to
be thinking about.

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You've seen this in different
of the people we've looked at,

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of the composers we looked at,
but this example of using this

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is particularly
interesting in terms

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of the melody, the rhythm,
and to some extent,

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the modal aspect
of what's going on.

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If you'll turn the
page just for a second,

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now we've got kind of
an interesting thing.

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I think, which is that
it goes into 3, 2.

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He alternates time
signatures here,

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goes for cut time for a
while, then he goes into 3.

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And if you look
at that trombone,

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it's, again, almost exactly
with the pentatonic based

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on F, the tonal center of F.

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When it goes to
the end of the page

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and goes into the
next system, he's

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going up to a B flat
and down to an F.

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And then it goes into a
descending chromatic line,

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and the chromatic line in
the piano is coming up.

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So it's almost as if
we've got this blues idea,

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we've got this little
folk form idea,

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and then in the
middle of this, he

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gives you a further elaboration
with a chromatic movement,

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which really mixes
everything up from where

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it had been originally.

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D is another little
facet that happens,

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a little line that goes up
and splits into a chord.

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And the bottom stiff system
there with the trombone

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is yet in another key center,
the key center of C and even

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further, elaboration and
elongated if you look at that.

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Because it's stretching
out in 3, 2 time.

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Everybody see that,
what's going on?

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So he's still using the
motif, in other words,

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but he's really
changing it around.

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The last two pages, I've given
you just a little bit of score

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just so you can see,
transposed score.

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And we've got, again, this
melody in its elaborated form

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at the top.

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In the bassoon
and in the guitar,

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we start to get now
linear fragments, little

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eighth note fragments.

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They start out
small, and then they

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begin to get more connected.

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And when you turn
over the page, there's

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even a little more of
a interesting phrase,

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a little interesting rhythm,
some more eighth notes.

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And this eighth
note pattern, then

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is going to come in quite a
bit in this particular piece.

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So what we've got, and this is
not an easy piece to follow,

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but I've tried to
break it down with some

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of these essential elements.

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So what you want to listen for--

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I'm going to play
the first movement,

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and it's going to
go by like that.

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And you're not
going to really be

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able to watch too much,
although you can try to.

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And so the trick would be if
you want to try to watch is,

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the first page, when
you get to letter B,

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you'll hear it, because
that's when the eighth note

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stuff comes in.

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You might just want to,
actually, flip over to page 3,

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which is where you get the
score for just two pages.

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So if you want to try this, you
can, but what you want to do

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is focus your ears.

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Because you're going to
mainly be hearing badu,

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da, da, da, da, dat.

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Badu, da, da, ba, de, bada,
da, da, de, du, da, ba, de, da,

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that elaboration of
those kind of things,

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plus all of this other.

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But it's not going
to be that simple.

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What I've just
been singing, what

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I've got on this page right now
sounds like a nice, little folk

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tune.

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But when we get the extra
modal things going on,

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particularly, with some
things going on in the bass,

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it's going to sound like
a whole different world.

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So let's see what we can
do to hang on to this,

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and then maybe we can talk just
a little bit about this one.

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Anybody able to follow anything?

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AUDIENCE: In the beginning.

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MARK HARVEY: Yeah, after
that, it's all bets are off.

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This is a very
complicated piece.

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AUDIENCE: Are they
improvising or [INAUDIBLE]??

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MARK HARVEY: Totally written.

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AUDIENCE: So it just sounds
like they're improvising.

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MARK HARVEY: Yeah, that's the
same thing with Ellington.

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Remember I mentioned
how Ellington,

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it came to light
a few years ago,

00:24:26.670 --> 00:24:29.580 align:middle line:84%
that Ellington, in fact, had
written some of the solos

00:24:29.580 --> 00:24:32.100 align:middle line:84%
that everyone had
assumed were improvised.

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But if you can write something
that sounds like it's

00:24:35.100 --> 00:24:37.840 align:middle line:90%
improvised, that's pretty good.

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And so the point of Russell's
compositional method,

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as I alluded to in
that article I read

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is, you want to keep the
nature of improvisation,

00:24:47.220 --> 00:24:49.590 align:middle line:84%
you want to keep that feeling,
that emotional quality,

00:24:49.590 --> 00:24:50.460 align:middle line:90%
that spontaneity.

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But if you can do that within
a written, notated framework,

00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:56.880 align:middle line:84%
that's pretty good, and
that's what's happening.

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When you get those baba,
dooby, dooby, dooby,

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de, your Charlie Parker land.

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You're talking that kind
of fleet, eighth note

00:25:02.730 --> 00:25:05.380 align:middle line:84%
kind of thing that we heard with
Parker or other of the bebop

00:25:05.380 --> 00:25:06.220 align:middle line:90%
improvisers.

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But this is all worked out.

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It's all very
carefully worked out

00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.790 align:middle line:90%
in a very interesting fabric.

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Could you hear that ba, ba,
da, da, that little riff

00:25:16.600 --> 00:25:18.820 align:middle line:84%
down at the bottom
C, ba, ba, da, da.

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Ba, ba, da-- it comes
in again, and it

00:25:21.010 --> 00:25:23.170 align:middle line:84%
sounds like it's
fresh because it's

00:25:23.170 --> 00:25:25.930 align:middle line:84%
a different little
fragment, but it's still

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related to what's going on.

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And some of that
elaboration of the melody,

00:25:32.110 --> 00:25:34.240 align:middle line:84%
you can get as you
listen, but there's so

00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:35.393 align:middle line:90%
many other things going on.

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Something I didn't point out,
which, hopefully, you heard,

00:25:37.810 --> 00:25:39.850 align:middle line:84%
the letter A down
in the bass line,

00:25:39.850 --> 00:25:42.260 align:middle line:84%
you've got this
half note motion.

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Boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom.

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That's almost like
another game song.

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I mean, this could be
the kind of thing kids

00:25:49.115 --> 00:25:50.740 align:middle line:84%
would just make up
on the playground.

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If you look at that, of the
four notes, D, G, C, and then F,

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this is sort of circle of
fifth, but it winds up on F.

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It's almost like that's
the target for those notes.

00:26:04.210 --> 00:26:07.110 align:middle line:84%
That's outlining a little
bit of the tonal center,

00:26:07.110 --> 00:26:08.998 align:middle line:84%
but it's not doing it
in a convenient way,

00:26:08.998 --> 00:26:11.290 align:middle line:84%
and it's something you really
have to pay attention to.

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Then a little bit
later it shifts,

00:26:13.170 --> 00:26:16.680 align:middle line:84%
and it becomes something
like D flat, A flat.

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It goes into a different
kind of a realm.

00:26:18.670 --> 00:26:21.060 align:middle line:84%
So it's he's
changing up the modal

00:26:21.060 --> 00:26:23.890 align:middle line:84%
relationships, in other words,
is what's happening here.

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So we have the full score
for this in the library,

00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.510 align:middle line:84%
and I invite you to check
this out with the recording

00:26:30.510 --> 00:26:32.760 align:middle line:84%
that we have there,
because there's

00:26:32.760 --> 00:26:33.990 align:middle line:90%
a lot you can get out of it.

00:26:33.990 --> 00:26:35.970 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to give
you a fuller analysis

00:26:35.970 --> 00:26:38.590 align:middle line:90%
at the end of the period.

00:26:38.590 --> 00:26:42.450 align:middle line:84%
Now, I want to give you
another little bit of paper.

00:26:42.450 --> 00:26:45.390 align:middle line:90%
This is the second movement.

00:26:45.390 --> 00:26:48.180 align:middle line:84%
Let me just give each person a
thing, because it's a packet.

00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:54.480 align:middle line:90%


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The full score is
in transposed form.

00:26:58.260 --> 00:27:01.050 align:middle line:84%
This is a concert
score, which I did just

00:27:01.050 --> 00:27:05.920 align:middle line:90%
to try to make some sense of it.

00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.850 align:middle line:84%
Just looking at this
briefly, anything

00:27:09.850 --> 00:27:12.130 align:middle line:84%
come to mind about
what's going on here?

00:27:12.130 --> 00:27:19.510 align:middle line:90%


00:27:19.510 --> 00:27:22.140 align:middle line:90%
This is very slow.

00:27:22.140 --> 00:27:22.770 align:middle line:90%
Thank goodness.

00:27:22.770 --> 00:27:26.590 align:middle line:90%


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Take a look at the
tenor sax part,

00:27:28.380 --> 00:27:34.080 align:middle line:84%
particularly at the first
bar and the third bar.

00:27:34.080 --> 00:27:39.220 align:middle line:90%


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AUDIENCE: The palindrome.

00:27:41.090 --> 00:27:41.965 align:middle line:90%
MARK HARVEY: Meaning?

00:27:41.965 --> 00:27:46.675 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: It's doing the
reverse of what you did earlier.

00:27:46.675 --> 00:27:49.090 align:middle line:84%
MARK HARVEY: Sort
of, triplets and then

00:27:49.090 --> 00:27:51.250 align:middle line:84%
triplets, except that
it's a faster triplet,

00:27:51.250 --> 00:27:55.930 align:middle line:84%
but that's a pretty good
assessment, particularly

00:27:55.930 --> 00:27:58.240 align:middle line:84%
if you looked at
bar 2 and bar 3,

00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:01.840 align:middle line:90%
and that would be a lot closer.

00:28:01.840 --> 00:28:05.620 align:middle line:84%
What's going on at bar 1 in
the tenor sax part right at A?

00:28:05.620 --> 00:28:11.100 align:middle line:90%


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Anything similar to what we saw
in the first movement motif?

00:28:14.055 --> 00:28:18.960 align:middle line:90%


00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.106 align:middle line:90%
Any pitches the same?

00:28:21.106 --> 00:28:22.761 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: The first.

00:28:22.761 --> 00:28:23.703 align:middle line:90%
MARK HARVEY: Hm?

00:28:23.703 --> 00:28:25.587 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: The first
two [INAUDIBLE]..

00:28:25.587 --> 00:28:27.410 align:middle line:84%
MARK HARVEY: The
first two, the C sharp

00:28:27.410 --> 00:28:31.250 align:middle line:84%
and the D. Except now,
the phrase doesn't go up,

00:28:31.250 --> 00:28:33.150 align:middle line:90%
it goes down.

00:28:33.150 --> 00:28:35.480 align:middle line:84%
So he's doing a little
manipulation here.

00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.480 align:middle line:84%
He's using some of the same
tones from that first phrase,

00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.340 align:middle line:84%
but he's put it in a different
field, a triplet field.

00:28:41.340 --> 00:28:46.195 align:middle line:84%
And instead of bada, da, he's
going bada, da, like that.

00:28:46.195 --> 00:28:49.910 align:middle line:84%
Bada, ba, da, de, ba,
which is an old-time blues

00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:52.340 align:middle line:84%
lick that everybody has
heard a million times.

00:28:52.340 --> 00:28:56.600 align:middle line:84%
But he's almost shifted us
into D minor now or to a D

00:28:56.600 --> 00:29:00.140 align:middle line:84%
pentatonic maybe, because D
seems to be a focal point,

00:29:00.140 --> 00:29:04.520 align:middle line:84%
and when you get to that third
bar, significant pitches,

00:29:04.520 --> 00:29:07.160 align:middle line:84%
there are A flat
and A natural again.

00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.060 align:middle line:84%
So there's that flat third,
natural third relation,

00:29:11.060 --> 00:29:13.310 align:middle line:84%
but now, he's really
messing with our minds

00:29:13.310 --> 00:29:15.050 align:middle line:84%
because we don't
know if we're really

00:29:15.050 --> 00:29:18.110 align:middle line:84%
in a D minor sound
or an F major sound.

00:29:18.110 --> 00:29:20.850 align:middle line:84%
And you can have both, and
you can go back and forth,

00:29:20.850 --> 00:29:25.010 align:middle line:84%
so this is a little bit
of what's happening here.

00:29:25.010 --> 00:29:28.050 align:middle line:84%
If you look at the piano
part-- this is Bill Evans

00:29:28.050 --> 00:29:29.460 align:middle line:90%
on the piano, by the way--

00:29:29.460 --> 00:29:35.290 align:middle line:84%
the piano part has very
definitely a D to an A flat,

00:29:35.290 --> 00:29:37.440 align:middle line:90%
which is a tritone, as you know.

00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.040 align:middle line:84%
And if we're thinking with a
tonal center of D right there,

00:29:41.040 --> 00:29:43.050 align:middle line:90%
that becomes the flat 5.

00:29:43.050 --> 00:29:44.860 align:middle line:90%
Is everybody with me on this?

00:29:44.860 --> 00:29:48.750 align:middle line:84%
So you've got, again, a
bebop idea, but you've

00:29:48.750 --> 00:29:53.760 align:middle line:84%
also got Russell's notion
within the Lydian mode, which

00:29:53.760 --> 00:29:56.610 align:middle line:84%
is where you have the raised
fourth or the flatted fifth,

00:29:56.610 --> 00:30:00.360 align:middle line:84%
so you've got a little
bit of that brought in.

00:30:00.360 --> 00:30:03.300 align:middle line:84%
It's a very interesting
kind of a piece.

00:30:03.300 --> 00:30:09.780 align:middle line:84%
If you look at the bassoon part,
take a look at the bassoon part

00:30:09.780 --> 00:30:12.300 align:middle line:84%
and at the bass part, bass
part is the second one

00:30:12.300 --> 00:30:15.180 align:middle line:84%
up from the bottom, what
does that mode seem to be?

00:30:15.180 --> 00:30:22.913 align:middle line:90%


00:30:22.913 --> 00:30:24.705 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Where it says
in the second part?

00:30:24.705 --> 00:30:28.760 align:middle line:84%
MARK HARVEY: The bass
part and the bassoon part.

00:30:28.760 --> 00:30:32.270 align:middle line:84%
The last bar and a
half of that page 1.

00:30:32.270 --> 00:30:35.456 align:middle line:90%


00:30:35.456 --> 00:30:37.400 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:38.440 align:middle line:90%
MARK HARVEY: Hm?

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:38.970 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:30:38.970 --> 00:30:39.762 align:middle line:90%
MARK HARVEY: Which?

00:30:39.762 --> 00:30:42.090 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

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MARK HARVEY: Right, but
just as it's laid out,

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what does it look like?

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:30:52.590 --> 00:30:58.721 align:middle line:90%


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MARK HARVEY: If you just
spell those notes right out,

00:31:02.610 --> 00:31:05.070 align:middle line:84%
the bottom one might very
well be the tonal center.

00:31:05.070 --> 00:31:06.030 align:middle line:90%
What is that?

00:31:06.030 --> 00:31:07.798 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: E flat pentatonic.

00:31:07.798 --> 00:31:12.200 align:middle line:84%
MARK HARVEY: E flat
pentatonic in the minor mode.

00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.750 align:middle line:84%
If we start off with
something that's

00:31:14.750 --> 00:31:19.850 align:middle line:84%
a lot like a D pentatonic
in the minor mode,

00:31:19.850 --> 00:31:24.440 align:middle line:84%
we get that reinforced
by the piano part,

00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:26.960 align:middle line:84%
then we've got an
E flat pentatonic

00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.990 align:middle line:90%
in the bass and the bassoon.

00:31:29.990 --> 00:31:32.660 align:middle line:84%
What is the piano doing
by the time it gets

00:31:32.660 --> 00:31:34.070 align:middle line:90%
to the last bar and a half?

00:31:34.070 --> 00:31:39.750 align:middle line:90%


00:31:39.750 --> 00:31:52.340 align:middle line:90%
It's not E flat, and it's not D.

00:31:52.340 --> 00:31:56.470 align:middle line:84%
Well, I think it looks a
lot like a C pentatonic.

00:31:56.470 --> 00:31:59.390 align:middle line:84%
It's coming up out
of the third measure.

00:31:59.390 --> 00:32:03.350 align:middle line:84%
It's got notes that would be
part of the C in the minor mode

00:32:03.350 --> 00:32:04.430 align:middle line:90%
pentatonic.

00:32:04.430 --> 00:32:05.420 align:middle line:90%
It goes up.

00:32:05.420 --> 00:32:07.820 align:middle line:90%
It hits kind of that G, G flat.

00:32:07.820 --> 00:32:09.470 align:middle line:90%
That's a five, flat five.

00:32:09.470 --> 00:32:13.520 align:middle line:84%
Comes down maybe more
of a major idea of C.

00:32:13.520 --> 00:32:16.400 align:middle line:84%
The point is there's at least
three modalities going on

00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.180 align:middle line:84%
in this four bars,
first four bars of this.

00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:26.440 align:middle line:84%
And this is what exactly is
meant by a pan modal approach.

00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:31.390 align:middle line:84%
The next page, you can look
at this more on your own,

00:32:31.390 --> 00:32:37.330 align:middle line:84%
it seems to me the top
voice, which is flute now,

00:32:37.330 --> 00:32:39.100 align:middle line:90%
has got the E flat pentatonic.

00:32:39.100 --> 00:32:42.610 align:middle line:84%
Again, the tenor seems to
have more of an F pentatonic

00:32:42.610 --> 00:32:45.820 align:middle line:84%
with that flat
third, natural third.

00:32:45.820 --> 00:32:50.980 align:middle line:84%
And again, we've got some things
referring more to a D center

00:32:50.980 --> 00:32:51.620 align:middle line:90%
below.

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And if you look at bar four,
where it says letter B,

00:32:57.076 --> 00:33:01.465 align:middle line:84%
the alto comes in right
with the basic motif again.

00:33:01.465 --> 00:33:05.380 align:middle line:84%
Boo, doo, doo, doo, and then
he goes up doo, doo, doo,

00:33:05.380 --> 00:33:07.690 align:middle line:84%
a little rhythmic
differentiation,

00:33:07.690 --> 00:33:10.030 align:middle line:84%
but it's basically
the same idea.

00:33:10.030 --> 00:33:13.060 align:middle line:84%
If you keep going
with this page 3,

00:33:13.060 --> 00:33:16.670 align:middle line:84%
the alto states
the melody again,

00:33:16.670 --> 00:33:18.460 align:middle line:84%
with a little bit
of differentiation

00:33:18.460 --> 00:33:19.795 align:middle line:90%
from what we had before.

00:33:19.795 --> 00:33:23.790 align:middle line:90%


00:33:23.790 --> 00:33:27.540 align:middle line:84%
The base has been
walking, now, the base

00:33:27.540 --> 00:33:30.990 align:middle line:84%
is doing another
ostinato effect.

00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:33.840 align:middle line:84%
If you look down in
the bass department F,

00:33:33.840 --> 00:33:38.830 align:middle line:90%
B flat, G, C, and so forth.

00:33:38.830 --> 00:33:42.570 align:middle line:84%
And then I put a
little inset there,

00:33:42.570 --> 00:33:47.400 align:middle line:84%
and the little inset shows now
that the alto and the tenor

00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.820 align:middle line:84%
are going to be playing the
original melody with just

00:33:50.820 --> 00:33:56.880 align:middle line:84%
a little different rhythmic,
but now, it's D and B natural,

00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:58.800 align:middle line:84%
I'm just giving you
the harmonization.

00:33:58.800 --> 00:34:03.840 align:middle line:84%
F and D, F and D, D and B
natural, then all of a sudden,

00:34:03.840 --> 00:34:06.570 align:middle line:90%
it goes to a B flat.

00:34:06.570 --> 00:34:11.699 align:middle line:84%
Well, this starts to seem a
lot like G as a tonal center,

00:34:11.699 --> 00:34:15.929 align:middle line:84%
with that flat three
and natural three idea,

00:34:15.929 --> 00:34:20.429 align:middle line:84%
almost like a 1 to
4 of the blues idea.

00:34:20.429 --> 00:34:23.620 align:middle line:84%
Except we know that a
lot of the early blues

00:34:23.620 --> 00:34:27.250 align:middle line:84%
were not necessarily 12
bars, they could very well

00:34:27.250 --> 00:34:28.810 align:middle line:90%
have been eight bars.

00:34:28.810 --> 00:34:31.960 align:middle line:84%
And a lot of times, they
never went to the 5 chord.

00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:35.409 align:middle line:84%
They just went back and forth
the 1 chord and the 4 chord.

00:34:35.409 --> 00:34:38.000 align:middle line:90%
So Russell is a very smart man.

00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.070 align:middle line:90%
He knows all about this stuff.

00:34:40.070 --> 00:34:43.750 align:middle line:84%
And so it's almost like here's
this super sophisticated piece,

00:34:43.750 --> 00:34:47.440 align:middle line:84%
and he's saying, yeah, but
this goes way, way back.

00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.100 align:middle line:84%
This is what I'm going to
be using for my basic way

00:34:51.100 --> 00:34:52.690 align:middle line:90%
this works.

00:34:52.690 --> 00:34:54.170 align:middle line:90%
This is my interpretation.

00:34:54.170 --> 00:34:56.295 align:middle line:84%
I don't know if this is
what he was thinking about,

00:34:56.295 --> 00:34:59.650 align:middle line:84%
but it seems to make sense
from one point of view.

00:34:59.650 --> 00:35:02.110 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to play this
it goes by very slowly.

00:35:02.110 --> 00:35:04.860 align:middle line:84%
You're going to hear the
eight-bar configuration.

00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:07.180 align:middle line:84%
There's a little interlude,
and then it comes back

00:35:07.180 --> 00:35:10.390 align:middle line:84%
and it's 8 bars, with the melody
right there, the harmonization.

00:35:10.390 --> 00:35:14.050 align:middle line:84%
Second time, they keep
playing a second line,

00:35:14.050 --> 00:35:15.850 align:middle line:90%
a second melody line adds in.

00:35:15.850 --> 00:35:18.070 align:middle line:84%
The third time, a
third melody line

00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:19.570 align:middle line:84%
adds in, just like
Charles Mingus

00:35:19.570 --> 00:35:23.860 align:middle line:84%
would do, layering or vertical
form, as Russell would say.

00:35:23.860 --> 00:35:25.063 align:middle line:90%
So let's listen to this.

00:35:25.063 --> 00:35:26.230 align:middle line:90%
This is the second movement.

00:35:26.230 --> 00:35:29.200 align:middle line:84%
You can follow along, at least
the first couple pages there.

00:35:29.200 --> 00:35:36.890 align:middle line:90%


00:35:36.890 --> 00:35:41.540 align:middle line:84%
So the strangest blues you'll
ever hear, but it's a blues,

00:35:41.540 --> 00:35:45.360 align:middle line:84%
and it's super sophisticated
all at the same time.

00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:46.860 align:middle line:90%
It's really a marvelous piece.

00:35:46.860 --> 00:35:50.270 align:middle line:84%
So I'm going to suggest that
you listen to this again

00:35:50.270 --> 00:35:52.740 align:middle line:90%
so you can make more of it.

00:35:52.740 --> 00:35:57.230 align:middle line:84%
And to help you do that,
I've got a little analysis

00:35:57.230 --> 00:35:58.380 align:middle line:90%
that I did the other day.

00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:01.740 align:middle line:84%
I've always been wanting to
try to figure this piece out,

00:36:01.740 --> 00:36:03.800 align:middle line:84%
so I took this opportunity
to make my effort.

00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:08.260 align:middle line:84%
You may have other things
that you come across,

00:36:08.260 --> 00:36:16.880 align:middle line:84%
but this is basically, some of
the notion of the structure.

00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.520 align:middle line:84%
And I'm not advocating that
everyone go out and try

00:36:19.520 --> 00:36:22.400 align:middle line:84%
to do this, but I'm
just offering this

00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.290 align:middle line:84%
as some examples of
the kinds of things

00:36:24.290 --> 00:36:29.150 align:middle line:84%
you might want to think about
with some rhythmic and melodic

00:36:29.150 --> 00:36:35.510 align:middle line:84%
and perhaps, scalar
resources to work with.

00:36:35.510 --> 00:36:40.340 align:middle line:84%
I want to jump ahead
now to a piece that

00:36:40.340 --> 00:36:44.510 align:middle line:90%
came for Russell in 1983.

00:36:44.510 --> 00:36:47.820 align:middle line:84%
This one had been the
only, as far as I can tell,

00:36:47.820 --> 00:36:51.530 align:middle line:84%
this had been the only
American commission to him

00:36:51.530 --> 00:36:53.450 align:middle line:90%
up to this point in time.

00:36:53.450 --> 00:36:57.440 align:middle line:84%
The United States is
a very, unfortunately,

00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.375 align:middle line:84%
took a long time, shall
we say, to catch up

00:36:59.375 --> 00:37:00.500 align:middle line:90%
with the rest of the world.

00:37:00.500 --> 00:37:03.350 align:middle line:84%
European countries have been
supporting jazz musicians

00:37:03.350 --> 00:37:05.372 align:middle line:84%
for at least a number
of years before this,

00:37:05.372 --> 00:37:07.580 align:middle line:84%
in terms of giving them
commissions and other things,

00:37:07.580 --> 00:37:10.040 align:middle line:84%
but Russell got this
one at Brandeis.

00:37:10.040 --> 00:37:14.100 align:middle line:84%
1972, Bill Evans, who appears on
the third movement of "Rosie,"

00:37:14.100 --> 00:37:18.000 align:middle line:84%
which we didn't hear, fantastic
piano solo, with Columbia

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.170 align:middle line:84%
Records, commissioned
this piece,

00:37:20.170 --> 00:37:22.110 align:middle line:90%
which is called "Living Time."

00:37:22.110 --> 00:37:24.420 align:middle line:84%
I think we have
this in the library.

00:37:24.420 --> 00:37:26.100 align:middle line:84%
And this was the
way, if you remember,

00:37:26.100 --> 00:37:29.310 align:middle line:84%
this is how Gil Evans got the
commissions from Miles Davis

00:37:29.310 --> 00:37:31.500 align:middle line:84%
to make those scores
that we heard last time.

00:37:31.500 --> 00:37:33.150 align:middle line:84%
He got them from
the record company.

00:37:33.150 --> 00:37:35.850 align:middle line:84%
Columbia was the leader
of the pack at that point.

00:37:35.850 --> 00:37:37.600 align:middle line:84%
They had the money to
be able to do that.

00:37:37.600 --> 00:37:42.480 align:middle line:84%
That's how jazz was positioned,
as in the commercial field.

00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:46.890 align:middle line:84%
1983, the African
Game was commissioned

00:37:46.890 --> 00:37:51.050 align:middle line:84%
by a nonprofit group that I
was directing at the time,

00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:52.800 align:middle line:90%
so I feel very proud of this.

00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.710 align:middle line:84%
We were able to commission with
the State Arts Council, which

00:37:55.710 --> 00:37:57.180 align:middle line:84%
had just come into
a lot of money,

00:37:57.180 --> 00:37:59.440 align:middle line:84%
so we were happy to
relieve them of it,

00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.790 align:middle line:84%
and pass it along to George
and a lot of musicians.

00:38:02.790 --> 00:38:04.920 align:middle line:84%
We were able to
commission this, and this

00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.100 align:middle line:84%
was only the third in a
line of US commissions

00:38:08.100 --> 00:38:09.360 align:middle line:90%
at this point in time.

00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:10.890 align:middle line:90%
This is a 40-minute work.

00:38:10.890 --> 00:38:13.130 align:middle line:84%
We're not going
to even try this,

00:38:13.130 --> 00:38:15.530 align:middle line:84%
but I do want to touch
on a couple of things

00:38:15.530 --> 00:38:18.680 align:middle line:84%
and point out that both of
these are in the library.

00:38:18.680 --> 00:38:21.110 align:middle line:90%
They're on our syllabus.

00:38:21.110 --> 00:38:23.150 align:middle line:84%
Before I get into
this any more, I

00:38:23.150 --> 00:38:24.720 align:middle line:90%
want to play the first movement.

00:38:24.720 --> 00:38:25.890 align:middle line:90%
This is a 40-minute piece.

00:38:25.890 --> 00:38:29.270 align:middle line:84%
It's in nine movements,
or what he calls events.

00:38:29.270 --> 00:38:32.300 align:middle line:84%
And I want you to tell me,
if you can, what instrument

00:38:32.300 --> 00:38:35.000 align:middle line:84%
or what is the source
for the sound you

00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:35.960 align:middle line:90%
hear at the beginning.

00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:37.900 align:middle line:90%
It's a very interesting sound.

00:38:37.900 --> 00:38:43.920 align:middle line:90%


00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.235 align:middle line:90%
Anybody figure out that sound?

00:38:45.235 --> 00:38:46.860 align:middle line:84%
At first, the sound
you actually heard,

00:38:46.860 --> 00:38:49.470 align:middle line:84%
the whirring sound
is actually correct.

00:38:49.470 --> 00:38:50.820 align:middle line:90%
That's not the malfunction.

00:38:50.820 --> 00:38:52.237 align:middle line:84%
Anybody figured
out what that was?

00:38:52.237 --> 00:38:56.466 align:middle line:90%


00:38:56.466 --> 00:38:59.050 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Sounds like
something being plucked.

00:38:59.050 --> 00:39:00.975 align:middle line:84%
MARK HARVEY: Something
being plucked.

00:39:00.975 --> 00:39:02.367 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Oh, the
whirring sound.

00:39:02.367 --> 00:39:03.450 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Is that a drill?

00:39:03.450 --> 00:39:05.250 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
notes, I guess.

00:39:05.250 --> 00:39:05.970 align:middle line:90%
MARK HARVEY: What's that?

00:39:05.970 --> 00:39:06.928 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: It's a drill.

00:39:06.928 --> 00:39:09.710 align:middle line:90%
MARK HARVEY: A drill?

00:39:09.710 --> 00:39:12.869 align:middle line:90%
I suppose it's like a drill.

00:39:12.869 --> 00:39:14.801 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: It's not a drill.

00:39:14.801 --> 00:39:18.665 align:middle line:90%


00:39:18.665 --> 00:39:23.510 align:middle line:84%
MARK HARVEY: Several
electric pencil sharpeners.

00:39:23.510 --> 00:39:29.520 align:middle line:84%
And I was playing on this,
and several of the people,

00:39:29.520 --> 00:39:31.228 align:middle line:84%
I didn't have one,
had pencil sharpeners.

00:39:31.228 --> 00:39:33.270 align:middle line:84%
And I can't remember if
they were battery powered

00:39:33.270 --> 00:39:33.860 align:middle line:90%
or plugged in.

00:39:33.860 --> 00:39:35.600 align:middle line:84%
But anyway, this
was the beginning.

00:39:35.600 --> 00:39:38.480 align:middle line:84%
And this piece, which is
called the African Game,

00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.590 align:middle line:84%
he takes off from the fact
that the first fossil evidence

00:39:42.590 --> 00:39:46.790 align:middle line:84%
of mankind was found by
Professor Leakey in Kenya.

00:39:46.790 --> 00:39:50.630 align:middle line:84%
And so, as George Russell
puts it, we're all Africans.

00:39:50.630 --> 00:39:53.150 align:middle line:84%
And so what happened
after this, what

00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:55.080 align:middle line:84%
was the story of
evolution, in other words.

00:39:55.080 --> 00:39:57.320 align:middle line:84%
So in 40 minutes
and 9 events, he

00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:00.350 align:middle line:84%
attempted to trace the history,
the story of evolution,

00:40:00.350 --> 00:40:03.350 align:middle line:84%
and for some reason, decided
that pencil sharpeners gave

00:40:03.350 --> 00:40:06.530 align:middle line:84%
a particularly primal
sound, I guess.

00:40:06.530 --> 00:40:08.660 align:middle line:84%
If this would work,
which it doesn't, you

00:40:08.660 --> 00:40:11.540 align:middle line:84%
would hear very
small, little sounds

00:40:11.540 --> 00:40:14.240 align:middle line:84%
come in with electric bass and
guitar and some other things,

00:40:14.240 --> 00:40:19.380 align:middle line:84%
gradually coalescing toward
maybe a more unified,

00:40:19.380 --> 00:40:22.800 align:middle line:84%
organized life form if you
want to follow that analogy.

00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:26.520 align:middle line:84%
But it's a really
very interesting way

00:40:26.520 --> 00:40:29.070 align:middle line:84%
to begin this whole
piece, which winds

00:40:29.070 --> 00:40:31.710 align:middle line:84%
up later after many
perambulations,

00:40:31.710 --> 00:40:33.390 align:middle line:84%
you can hear this
in the library,

00:40:33.390 --> 00:40:38.070 align:middle line:84%
with a very heavy funk
underlay and almost all

00:40:38.070 --> 00:40:41.700 align:middle line:84%
of the previous motives
and ideas brought back.

00:40:41.700 --> 00:40:44.280 align:middle line:84%
I'm just going to try it just
to see if this is not totally

00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:49.140 align:middle line:84%
jinxed, just to see if we
can maybe go to the last one

00:40:49.140 --> 00:40:50.265 align:middle line:90%
here and see what happens.

00:40:50.265 --> 00:40:56.880 align:middle line:90%


00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.960 align:middle line:84%
So hopefully, that'll pique your
interest to hear more of that.

00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:03.120 align:middle line:84%
Again, vertical form,
layered, all kinds of things,

00:41:03.120 --> 00:41:04.890 align:middle line:84%
and if you heard the
whole entire piece,

00:41:04.890 --> 00:41:08.190 align:middle line:84%
you would identify some of those
melodic and rhythmic fragments.

00:41:08.190 --> 00:41:10.760 align:middle line:84%
Part of the problem
with playing in a piece

00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:14.120 align:middle line:84%
that George Russell writes
is that he started out

00:41:14.120 --> 00:41:15.140 align:middle line:90%
as a drummer.

00:41:15.140 --> 00:41:18.560 align:middle line:84%
So he has no mercy with
writing rhythmic patterns

00:41:18.560 --> 00:41:20.810 align:middle line:84%
for everybody,
including this had

00:41:20.810 --> 00:41:26.120 align:middle line:84%
a five-piece Afro-Cuban drum
ensemble, called the bata

00:41:26.120 --> 00:41:27.150 align:middle line:90%
ensemble.

00:41:27.150 --> 00:41:30.050 align:middle line:84%
And so they were going at it
with drums and brake drums

00:41:30.050 --> 00:41:31.413 align:middle line:90%
and everything.

00:41:31.413 --> 00:41:33.080 align:middle line:84%
the Main drummer was
Keith Copeland, who

00:41:33.080 --> 00:41:34.622 align:middle line:84%
was a wonderful
player and just about

00:41:34.622 --> 00:41:36.890 align:middle line:84%
this time was playing
with the Basie Band

00:41:36.890 --> 00:41:40.460 align:middle line:84%
and a whole bunch of people,
and it was a monster, partially

00:41:40.460 --> 00:41:43.220 align:middle line:84%
because it was a
commissioned work,

00:41:43.220 --> 00:41:47.900 align:middle line:84%
and the State was spreading
the wealth to us musicians.

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We had seven days of rehearsal.

00:41:50.900 --> 00:41:51.980 align:middle line:90%
You don't get this.

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You just don't get
this, seven days

00:41:53.690 --> 00:41:58.460 align:middle line:84%
in a row of rehearsal,
good section of each day,

00:41:58.460 --> 00:42:01.280 align:middle line:84%
and then what you
heard was the recording

00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:03.800 align:middle line:84%
of the live performance,
the premiere performance.

00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:07.320 align:middle line:84%
The only thing they did at the
studio came out on Blue Note

00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:08.270 align:middle line:90%
was Grammy nominated.

00:42:08.270 --> 00:42:10.520 align:middle line:84%
The only thing they did
was repair, not repair,

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but add and fix a couple
of synthesizer parts.

00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:19.070 align:middle line:84%
Not bad for something that
came out of Massachusetts, out

00:42:19.070 --> 00:42:22.460 align:middle line:84%
of, essentially, a local
grassroots organization

00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:24.830 align:middle line:84%
and shows the value
of having commissions.

00:42:24.830 --> 00:42:27.740 align:middle line:84%
And so if you ever get involved
in addition, or whatever,

00:42:27.740 --> 00:42:30.320 align:middle line:84%
musical things you do
with community groups that

00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.740 align:middle line:84%
can help to sponsor
and foster the arts,

00:42:33.740 --> 00:42:36.902 align:middle line:84%
please do that, because these
kinds of things can happen.

00:42:36.902 --> 00:42:39.110 align:middle line:84%
Now, I want to spend the
last little bit just talking

00:42:39.110 --> 00:42:40.700 align:middle line:90%
about this piece of mine.

00:42:40.700 --> 00:42:43.160 align:middle line:90%
This is called "The Seeker."

00:42:43.160 --> 00:42:47.300 align:middle line:84%
This was a commission from the
John Coltrane Memorial Concert.

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You may know of this
it happens every fall.

00:42:49.310 --> 00:42:52.130 align:middle line:84%
It's the longest
running celebration

00:42:52.130 --> 00:42:55.250 align:middle line:84%
of Coltrane's legacy
in the United States

00:42:55.250 --> 00:42:57.600 align:middle line:84%
actually, any
place in the world.

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And it's a concert
that most often

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has a fairly large
ensemble gathered

00:43:06.540 --> 00:43:07.740 align:middle line:90%
to pay tribute to Trane.

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They usually break
into small groups,

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and then there's usually
some full band pieces.

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And so in 1994, I was asked to
write a piece for the full band

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called "The Seeker," which
was my tribute to Coltrane,

00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:26.220 align:middle line:84%
and this is an interesting
connection here

00:43:26.220 --> 00:43:30.390 align:middle line:84%
because both Miles Davis and
Coltrane were deeply influenced

00:43:30.390 --> 00:43:33.120 align:middle line:90%
by George Russell's theories.

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And so to be able to
repay a debt to Coltrane

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and to some extent,
using some influences

00:43:39.420 --> 00:43:42.450 align:middle line:84%
that I may have gleaned
from George Russell

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was a nice thing
to be able to do.

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I don't claim to be anywhere
near the level of brilliance

00:43:49.950 --> 00:43:51.480 align:middle line:84%
that George Russell
is, but I had

00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.310 align:middle line:84%
my own means and
my own approach,

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and this is what we should
all strive for as composers.

00:43:55.770 --> 00:43:59.340 align:middle line:84%
We don't want to necessary
eerily copy anybody

00:43:59.340 --> 00:44:00.420 align:middle line:90%
that we hear outright.

00:44:00.420 --> 00:44:02.710 align:middle line:84%
You can always
learn from people.

00:44:02.710 --> 00:44:06.095 align:middle line:84%
So in this piece, I'll
show you just a little bit

00:44:06.095 --> 00:44:07.470 align:middle line:84%
at the beginning,
the first thing

00:44:07.470 --> 00:44:11.730 align:middle line:84%
I want to show you is
the drum part on page 6.

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Don't do this.

00:44:13.140 --> 00:44:15.490 align:middle line:90%
It's too complicated.

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I may have told this story
to some other classes,

00:44:18.450 --> 00:44:20.610 align:middle line:84%
you may have heard this,
when I got to the session,

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we had three drummers.

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A set drummer was a fantastic
player, and he looked at this

00:44:26.310 --> 00:44:27.870 align:middle line:84%
and he looked at
me, and his gaze

00:44:27.870 --> 00:44:32.850 align:middle line:84%
kept getting more and more
consternation and almost evil.

00:44:32.850 --> 00:44:35.340 align:middle line:84%
And then now, we're good
friends I should say,

00:44:35.340 --> 00:44:37.480 align:middle line:84%
but it was like, well,
what do you want?

00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.000 align:middle line:84%
I said, well, this
is just a guide.

00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:40.667 align:middle line:84%
It's just a guide to
what you should do.

00:44:40.667 --> 00:44:42.990 align:middle line:84%
And finally, we had three
or four rehearsals for this,

00:44:42.990 --> 00:44:44.550 align:middle line:84%
finally, about the
second rehearsal,

00:44:44.550 --> 00:44:46.560 align:middle line:84%
he and I finally got
a meeting of minds,

00:44:46.560 --> 00:44:48.870 align:middle line:84%
and then I said just
do your own thing.

00:44:48.870 --> 00:44:51.390 align:middle line:84%
That was the key,
and it was brilliant.

00:44:51.390 --> 00:44:54.000 align:middle line:84%
So don't overwrite
for the drummer.

00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.790 align:middle line:84%
Kurt, I see Kurt
laughing, and he knows

00:44:56.790 --> 00:44:58.130 align:middle line:90%
being a drummer what this is.

00:44:58.130 --> 00:45:00.380 align:middle line:84%
But the other part of
getting a commission

00:45:00.380 --> 00:45:03.500 align:middle line:84%
is you feel you have to step
up, and everything has to be,

00:45:03.500 --> 00:45:05.550 align:middle line:84%
oh, well, I better
write a drum part,

00:45:05.550 --> 00:45:08.677 align:middle line:84%
so it looks good on paper,
but if I ever play this again,

00:45:08.677 --> 00:45:10.760 align:middle line:84%
I would always tell the
drummer do your own thing.

00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:13.130 align:middle line:84%
In any case, the
important thing is

00:45:13.130 --> 00:45:15.380 align:middle line:84%
what's going on in the
contra bass line, which

00:45:15.380 --> 00:45:18.650 align:middle line:84%
is the third line
up from the bottom,

00:45:18.650 --> 00:45:22.130 align:middle line:84%
and this is, again,
a pentatonic usage--

00:45:22.130 --> 00:45:23.030 align:middle line:90%
bum, bum.

00:45:23.030 --> 00:45:24.350 align:middle line:90%
Bum, bum, bum, bum.

00:45:24.350 --> 00:45:25.110 align:middle line:90%
Bum, bum.

00:45:25.110 --> 00:45:27.110 align:middle line:90%
Bum, bum, bum bum bum bum.

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Bum, bum, bum,
bum, bum, bum, bum.

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Bum, bum.

00:45:29.930 --> 00:45:31.550 align:middle line:90%
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.

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It's an eight-bar phrase that
sounds like a kind of a riff

00:45:35.690 --> 00:45:38.180 align:middle line:84%
but in fact, it's
the first melody.

00:45:38.180 --> 00:45:40.820 align:middle line:84%
And then on top of that
comes the melody you

00:45:40.820 --> 00:45:45.110 align:middle line:84%
see above it voiced in sort
of a modal cluster form,

00:45:45.110 --> 00:45:47.300 align:middle line:90%
you'll hear this.

00:45:47.300 --> 00:45:50.630 align:middle line:84%
And then the first
three pages give you

00:45:50.630 --> 00:45:53.960 align:middle line:84%
the riff, which is doubled
in bass trombone and tuba.

00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.300 align:middle line:84%
The upper horns have
the melodic idea, which

00:45:56.300 --> 00:45:58.800 align:middle line:90%
is a kind of a pan tonal idea.

00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:04.900 align:middle line:84%
It doesn't exactly link up with
the G minor pentatonic thing.

00:46:04.900 --> 00:46:10.050 align:middle line:84%
And then that tightens up,
meaning that the eight-bar riff

00:46:10.050 --> 00:46:11.760 align:middle line:90%
becomes a four-bar riff.

00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.640 align:middle line:84%
It becomes
compressed, and I have

00:46:14.640 --> 00:46:16.470 align:middle line:84%
some part of this
that we'll play so you

00:46:16.470 --> 00:46:18.720 align:middle line:90%
can hear where that happens.

00:46:18.720 --> 00:46:23.370 align:middle line:84%
The very beginning of the piece,
because Coltrane, as you know,

00:46:23.370 --> 00:46:26.250 align:middle line:84%
played both soprano
and tenor sax is

00:46:26.250 --> 00:46:30.180 align:middle line:84%
a little duo for a soprano sax
player and a tenor sax player,

00:46:30.180 --> 00:46:32.160 align:middle line:84%
sort of pay tribute
to those two sides

00:46:32.160 --> 00:46:33.420 align:middle line:90%
of Coltrane's personality.

00:46:33.420 --> 00:46:35.190 align:middle line:84%
And there's a
little melodic motif

00:46:35.190 --> 00:46:36.690 align:middle line:90%
that they trade off and on.

00:46:36.690 --> 00:46:39.460 align:middle line:84%
It starts with drums, and
then it goes into this,

00:46:39.460 --> 00:46:41.320 align:middle line:84%
and then there's some
chorale type thing,

00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:44.550 align:middle line:90%
and then we hit the riff.

00:46:44.550 --> 00:46:46.840 align:middle line:84%
So let's hear the
first part of it,

00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:49.965 align:middle line:84%
and you can hear what's going
to be going on with this.

00:46:49.965 --> 00:46:52.765 align:middle line:90%
[MARK HARVEY, "THE SEEKER"]

00:46:52.765 --> 00:50:12.628 align:middle line:90%


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Staying longer than I
thought to get to that part

00:50:14.670 --> 00:50:18.463 align:middle line:84%
where the bottom riff
compresses the four bars,

00:50:18.463 --> 00:50:19.380 align:middle line:90%
but you can hear this.

00:50:19.380 --> 00:50:23.170 align:middle line:84%
We have the recording on
the reserve for the course.

00:50:23.170 --> 00:50:24.990 align:middle line:84%
Now, if you want to
just flip ahead, we've

00:50:24.990 --> 00:50:26.580 align:middle line:84%
had those few pages,
now, we're going

00:50:26.580 --> 00:50:28.350 align:middle line:84%
to go toward the
end of the piece.

00:50:28.350 --> 00:50:31.740 align:middle line:84%
And you'll notice that the
riff, or the vamp in the bottom

00:50:31.740 --> 00:50:33.340 align:middle line:90%
is a lot more complicated.

00:50:33.340 --> 00:50:37.140 align:middle line:84%
It's a multi-meter vamp, which
means it goes bar a five,

00:50:37.140 --> 00:50:40.380 align:middle line:84%
bar a four, bar a
five, bar of six.

00:50:40.380 --> 00:50:42.420 align:middle line:90%
Why did I write this?

00:50:42.420 --> 00:50:44.820 align:middle line:84%
No one in their right
mind would do this,

00:50:44.820 --> 00:50:48.540 align:middle line:84%
but this is how I heard it, and
I know with a couple of you,

00:50:48.540 --> 00:50:50.312 align:middle line:84%
we've had some rhythmic
issues, and I've

00:50:50.312 --> 00:50:52.020 align:middle line:84%
tried to straighten
it out and try to say

00:50:52.020 --> 00:50:53.640 align:middle line:90%
make it as simple as you can.

00:50:53.640 --> 00:50:55.740 align:middle line:84%
It turns out that
this is the simplest

00:50:55.740 --> 00:50:57.990 align:middle line:84%
way I could communicate
what I wanted

00:50:57.990 --> 00:51:00.630 align:middle line:84%
with this particular
thing, and what

00:51:00.630 --> 00:51:04.080 align:middle line:84%
came to be the practice whenever
we play this with my band

00:51:04.080 --> 00:51:06.780 align:middle line:84%
and with this band and we
didn't do it this first time,

00:51:06.780 --> 00:51:11.470 align:middle line:84%
but I've evolved into this was,
I simply clap the whole pattern

00:51:11.470 --> 00:51:12.850 align:middle line:90%
one time.

00:51:12.850 --> 00:51:14.570 align:middle line:90%
Let's clap it together.

00:51:14.570 --> 00:51:15.445 align:middle line:90%
Let me do it first.

00:51:15.445 --> 00:51:25.730 align:middle line:90%


00:51:25.730 --> 00:51:26.230 align:middle line:90%
Come on.

00:51:26.230 --> 00:51:35.610 align:middle line:90%


00:51:35.610 --> 00:51:36.480 align:middle line:90%
Simple, right?

00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.520 align:middle line:84%
Now, all you have to do
is aim for the downbeat,

00:51:38.520 --> 00:51:39.480 align:middle line:90%
and you're all set.

00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:43.263 align:middle line:84%
That became the vamp
underneath, and then

00:51:43.263 --> 00:51:45.180 align:middle line:84%
you'll see that the
melody that comes in there

00:51:45.180 --> 00:51:47.790 align:middle line:84%
is exactly the same as
the melody the first time,

00:51:47.790 --> 00:51:51.160 align:middle line:84%
except that it says,
well, it should say--

00:51:51.160 --> 00:51:53.940 align:middle line:84%
would say this, but we're on
the beginning of the page--

00:51:53.940 --> 00:51:56.020 align:middle line:90%
half as slow.

00:51:56.020 --> 00:51:59.980 align:middle line:84%
So that vamp is going by, the
melody comes in half is slow,

00:51:59.980 --> 00:52:02.250 align:middle line:84%
so now, I'm messing with
the rhythmical idea.

00:52:02.250 --> 00:52:04.200 align:middle line:84%
And then we get to
the last two pages,

00:52:04.200 --> 00:52:08.070 align:middle line:84%
and it goes to this just
simple triads, which

00:52:08.070 --> 00:52:11.250 align:middle line:84%
seem to always make a big
effect, and then the last page,

00:52:11.250 --> 00:52:12.660 align:middle line:90%
we slow it down again.

00:52:12.660 --> 00:52:17.760 align:middle line:84%
And you'll see at the very end
in soprano 3 and in soprano 1,

00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:22.260 align:middle line:84%
they have the opening motif just
like the soloist started out

00:52:22.260 --> 00:52:24.940 align:middle line:84%
with at the beginning is
just a kind of a conclusion.

00:52:24.940 --> 00:52:26.850 align:middle line:84%
So let's see if we can
get to the end of this

00:52:26.850 --> 00:52:29.295 align:middle line:84%
just for the sake of
hearing how this works out.

00:52:29.295 --> 00:52:32.634 align:middle line:90%


00:52:32.634 --> 00:52:35.628 align:middle line:90%
[MARK HARVEY, "THE SEEKER"]

00:52:35.628 --> 00:58:15.420 align:middle line:90%


00:58:15.420 --> 00:58:17.820 align:middle line:84%
So that's what you
can do with modes,

00:58:17.820 --> 00:58:20.340 align:middle line:84%
a simple pentatonic
scale, and put it

00:58:20.340 --> 00:58:24.630 align:middle line:84%
through all those permutations,
add some structural thinking

00:58:24.630 --> 00:58:26.100 align:middle line:84%
about how to put
things together,

00:58:26.100 --> 00:58:29.100 align:middle line:84%
and you come up with three
completely different pieces

00:58:29.100 --> 00:58:31.170 align:middle line:84%
that we've heard this
afternoon, but they're all

00:58:31.170 --> 00:58:34.560 align:middle line:84%
using this basic
approach with one

00:58:34.560 --> 00:58:36.780 align:middle line:84%
or another of these
elements applied.

00:58:36.780 --> 00:58:38.603 align:middle line:84%
And again, I'm not
suggesting everybody

00:58:38.603 --> 00:58:40.770 align:middle line:84%
run out and try to do this,
you might hurt yourself.

00:58:40.770 --> 00:58:45.030 align:middle line:84%
But if something in
here strikes a chord,

00:58:45.030 --> 00:58:48.028 align:middle line:84%
no pun intended, and
if you say to yourself,

00:58:48.028 --> 00:58:50.070 align:middle line:84%
well, I'd like to incorporate
that in some things

00:58:50.070 --> 00:58:53.730 align:middle line:84%
I'm thinking about, then
these are some examples of how

00:58:53.730 --> 00:58:55.290 align:middle line:90%
that might be useful.

00:58:55.290 --> 00:58:57.658 align:middle line:84%
Does anybody have any
questions or comments

00:58:57.658 --> 00:58:58.950 align:middle line:90%
at the end of this whole thing?

00:58:58.950 --> 00:58:59.700 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:58:59.700 --> 00:59:01.500 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: My
question is, when you

00:59:01.500 --> 00:59:03.840 align:middle line:84%
were talking at the
beginning of class

00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:09.420 align:middle line:84%
about writing a melody to
help with player improvising,

00:59:09.420 --> 00:59:11.280 align:middle line:90%
how does that work exactly?

00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:13.680 align:middle line:84%
Because you have a tune
like "I Got Rhythm,"

00:59:13.680 --> 00:59:16.270 align:middle line:84%
which is varied by all sorts
of people who improvise,

00:59:16.270 --> 00:59:18.700 align:middle line:90%
and it's a simple tune enough.

00:59:18.700 --> 00:59:22.330 align:middle line:84%
So what do you mean by writing,
composing, [INAUDIBLE]??

00:59:22.330 --> 00:59:26.140 align:middle line:84%
MARK HARVEY: Well, like Charlie
Parker with "Anthropology,"

00:59:26.140 --> 00:59:30.580 align:middle line:84%
which is based on that, if you
play "Anthropology" based on

00:59:30.580 --> 00:59:34.090 align:middle line:84%
"I Got Rhythm," it's likely
that at least the first eight

00:59:34.090 --> 00:59:36.250 align:middle line:84%
bars of your soloing
as an improviser

00:59:36.250 --> 00:59:38.380 align:middle line:84%
is going to be somewhat
related to what you've just

00:59:38.380 --> 00:59:40.360 align:middle line:90%
heard and played as the melody.

00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:42.070 align:middle line:84%
And if you're really
paying attention,

00:59:42.070 --> 00:59:44.170 align:middle line:84%
which some people are and some
people don't, some people just

00:59:44.170 --> 00:59:45.500 align:middle line:90%
go off and do their own thing.

00:59:45.500 --> 00:59:47.350 align:middle line:84%
But if you're paying
attention to that tune,

00:59:47.350 --> 00:59:49.540 align:middle line:84%
you'll probably incorporate
some of the intervals,

00:59:49.540 --> 00:59:53.260 align:middle line:84%
maybe some of the rhythmic
ideas that are coming out of it.

00:59:53.260 --> 00:59:55.810 align:middle line:84%
In this piece we just
heard, you heard at the end,

00:59:55.810 --> 00:59:57.460 align:middle line:84%
the improviser is
playing exactly what

00:59:57.460 --> 01:00:00.115 align:middle line:84%
they had played at the
beginning-- ba, de, ba, da,

01:00:00.115 --> 01:00:03.730 align:middle line:84%
da-- a little melodic idea
with certain intervals.

01:00:03.730 --> 01:00:05.860 align:middle line:84%
A good improviser on
this kind of music

01:00:05.860 --> 01:00:07.908 align:middle line:84%
will pay attention to
that and will say, oh,

01:00:07.908 --> 01:00:08.950 align:middle line:90%
what are those intervals?

01:00:08.950 --> 01:00:12.310 align:middle line:84%
Let me work with those,
at least as a basis

01:00:12.310 --> 01:00:13.390 align:middle line:90%
for what I'm going to do.

01:00:13.390 --> 01:00:15.880 align:middle line:84%
So that's partly what
I'm talking about.

01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:17.650 align:middle line:84%
That's usually up
to the improviser.

01:00:17.650 --> 01:00:19.180 align:middle line:84%
What George Russell
is talking about

01:00:19.180 --> 01:00:22.720 align:middle line:84%
is trying to make
a composed line

01:00:22.720 --> 01:00:26.140 align:middle line:84%
sound as if it were
improvised, to give it

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that kind of
spontaneous quality.

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That's a good trick.

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Most of us are searching.

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I don't claim to
have ever done that,

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but we're searching for that.

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That's what we all try to do
to come up with that level.

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And so it's a constant, but
if you have that question,

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that's a great question
to have in mind.

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Keep working at it.

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Anybody else?

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Any other--

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OK.

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Well, thank you for letting
me expose you to this music.

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Everything that's here
is on the syllabus.

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The recording of my piece is
from a commercially available

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recording, which
is much cleaner.

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We took it to the studio.

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This is live from
the Regattabar,

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so you get whatever
you got that night.

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On Thursday, my friend
and colleague, Bill Lowe,

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will be here who's a real expert
on bebop and Afro-Cuban music.

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He's going to be doing a
concert in a couple of weeks

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at Bunker Hill Community
College with Cecil Bridgewater

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doing music of Dizzy Gillespie.

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So this is a very nice tie-in.

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He'll be already thinking about
and talking to you about music

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they'll be performing.

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So see you on Thursday.

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Don't forget these assignments
that I'm eager to see, so see

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you later on Thursday.

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