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JACK HARE: So today, and for
the remainder of this semester,

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we will be discussing
Thomson scattering.

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Please hold your applause.

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You won't like it.

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[LAUGHS]

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So Thomson scattering is an
extremely powerful and subtle

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diagnostic, and it can
be used over a huge range

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of different plasma parameters
to provide local information

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about our plasma.

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And so that makes it extremely
powerful in comparison

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to a large number of line
integration techniques

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that we've seen so far.

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The basic idea of Thomson
scattering is very simple.

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We have our vacuum chamber
with some plasma inside that we

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would like to diagnose.

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And we take a laser beam, and
we focus it inside the plasma.

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And the light from
the laser scatters off

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the particles in
the plasma, and it

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will scatter off in lots
of different directions.

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Our job, then, is simply to
place some sort of detector

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to look at this
scattered light here.

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That detector is
most likely to be

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something like a spectrometer.

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If we use a
spectrometer, we can see

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that the initial
laser that we put in,

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which we will choose to have a
very narrow line width-- so it

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will be at just one wavelength
or just one frequency--

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that narrow line width
will undergo Doppler

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drift due to the
velocity of the plasma.

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And it will undergo
Doppler broadening

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due to the thermal
motion of the plasma.

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So this will give us
out two key quantities.

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Cool.

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Could you mute, please, Yang?

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AUDIENCE: Yes, I can hear you.

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JACK HARE: Yes, but
could you mute yourself?

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Because we can hear
something in the background.

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AUDIENCE: Oh, sorry.

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JACK HARE: Thank you very much.

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Ah, tediousness of the Zoom.

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OK, good.

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And so this is going
to give us things

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like the flow velocity
within the plasma

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and the temperature of the
plasma-- so the ion temperature

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and the electron temperature.

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And so this seems simple enough.

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And yet we're going to
spend four lectures on it.

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And so it is not
particularly simple at all.

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And, in fact, if you keep
analyzing the Thomson

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scattering, you can
also get out quantities

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like the average ionization
state of the ions.

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We can get out the
electron density.

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We can even start measuring the
local current within the plasma.

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We can measure the magnetic
field locally within the plasma.

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And we may be able to get
out the full electron and ion

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distribution function, which
is particularly important when

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these distribution functions
are not Maxwellian.

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If they were
Maxwellian, of course,

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they would fully
characterized, once we

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knew the temperature and the
flow velocity and the density.

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Right.

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So the nice thing about
Thomson scattering,

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from my point of view, is it
unites a lot of plasma physics.

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We have electromagnetism that we
need to understand to do this.

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We need this to get the particle
orbits and the radiation

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from these particles.

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We need to understand our
statistical mechanics.

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In particular, we
need kinetic theory

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because, although
we're going to end up

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a lot of the time with
gross fluid quantities

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like temperature and flow
velocity, in order to get them,

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we still need to first do
the theory using distribution

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functions, even if those
distribution functions turn out

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to be Maxwellian.

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And, of course, this
involves lasers.

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Lasers are just
simply very cool.

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It also unites a lot of plasmas.

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So I'll give you some ideas
of the sorts of plasmas

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that we can measure stuff in.

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If I have a little table here
with the electron temperature

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and the electron
density, we can start out

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with a pretty low-temperature
plasma, 1 electron-volt,

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and also a pretty low density,
10 to 17 per meter cubed.

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This sort of density could be
a low-temperature plasma used,

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for example, for converting
carbon dioxide into carbon

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monoxide and oxygen. This is
an interesting plasma-catalyzed

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process.

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It could be used for
doing carbon capture.

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The plasma catalysis here
is because the electron

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distribution function
is non-Maxwellian.

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And it's actually
the fast electrons

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in the tail of this distribution
which do the plasma catalysis

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process and make it
thermodynamically

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and economically feasible.

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But in these sorts
of plasmas, people

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have been able to characterize
the non-Maxwellian nature

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of this distribution
function extremely well

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by repetitively
pulsing this plasma

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and doing Thomson
scattering and acquiring

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signals over hours or days.

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And so even in this
very low-density,

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low-temperature plasma,
Thomson scattering

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has given us a lot
of information.

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We could go up to
a plasma which is

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much hotter, 6 KeV, and a
density of around about 10

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to the 20.

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This will be a plasma--

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the specific example here is
TFTR, which was a fusion reactor

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prototype at Princeton.

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And this was a D-T plasma.

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And it produced a significant
number of alpha particles.

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There was quite a lot
of fusion going on.

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It got to very high temperatures
and moderately high densities.

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Here they did time-resolved
Thomson scattering.

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And they were able to
image an event called

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a sawtooth crash, which is a
catastrophic loss of confinement

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due to reconnection.

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And they made a movie
of this, effectively

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using the Thomson scattering.

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So they were able to better
understand this process.

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And then we can go to
similar temperatures here

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but much higher densities--

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10 to the 27 per meter cubed.

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And this is a measurement
using Thomson scattering

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inside an inertial confinement
fusion hohlraum, which

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is that little gold
cylinder that has 192 laser

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beams hitting the inside of
it to produce an X-ray bath.

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And it was in this hohlraum
with all the lasers coming in.

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There's a large amount
of plasma on the walls.

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Remember, the eventual
goal is that the X-rays

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compress this capsule.

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But the plasma on the walls
is pretty hard to diagnose.

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But folks were able to
use Thomson scattering

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to diagnose the temperature
and density here,

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which is very
important if you want

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to know what your X-ray flux is
going to be onto the capsule.

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So this is 10 orders of
magnitude in terms of density,

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but it is fundamentally
the same technique.

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So how are we going
to tackle this?

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Oh, no, I've got
another bit of reasons

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why you should care
about Thomson scattering.

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Let's keep going.

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OK, so Thomson scattering
also changed the course

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of fusion research forever.

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Now, I may have hopped on about
this a little bit already.

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Those of you who
took 2262 with me

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will remember the
famous or infamous ZETA

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Reactor which was in the UK.

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So this was back
in the '50s or so.

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1958, they say
they've got fusion.

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It turns out that
the reason that they

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think they saw
fusion is they didn't

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understand their diagnostics.

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So this is poor
diagnostic interpretation.

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They interpreted
their neutron spectra

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as being due to isotropic
neutrons when, in fact, it

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was beam-target fusion.

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This, of course, was
rather humiliating.

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But it did lead to a
rather good result,

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which was the development
of Thomson scattering,

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because it was clear that we
needed much better diagnostics

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in order to measure
our plasma conditions

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and actually show that
fusion is happening.

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We need to know if the plasma
is even hot enough to do fusion.

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The problem with
the ZETA machine

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is it was far too
cold anyway, wherever

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we've got fusion happening.

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And the British should
have realized this

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before they claimed that
fusion was occurring here.

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But they did develop this
Thomson scattering diagnostic

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with some of the first lasers.

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I'll point out that the laser
was just invented in 1961.

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So they didn't really have a
chance to do it before then.

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But after then, there
was really no excuse.

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And this was very handy
because only a few years later,

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there was a new device, T3.

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This was in the USSR.

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And it was something that
they were calling a tokamak.

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Some of you may
have heard of this.

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And in 1968, these guys claimed
that they got temperatures

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in excess of 1
kiloelectron volt, which

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was significantly better than
any other machine at the time.

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So this was really remarkable.

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And, of course, there was a
huge amount of skepticism,

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both from the UK, who felt a
little bit burnt after the ZETA

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incident, and also from the US.

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And so there were
needed to be a way

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to verify the claim
of the Soviets.

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And what happened was kind of
a remarkable piece of Cold War

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history, which was a team
from the UK went to the USSR

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with their Thomson scattering
diagnostic in a load of crates,

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consisting of a laser and a
load of spectrometers here.

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And they used it to
confirm these temperatures.

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And there's a
beautiful Nature paper

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by Peacock, the name of the
lead scientist on this group,

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showing the Thomson scattering
spectra from the T3 tokamak.

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And this caused an
absolute firestorm

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across the world of fusion.

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Instantly, everyone wanted
to build tokamaks instead.

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So at the Princeton
Plasma Physics Lab,

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they had the model
C stellarator,

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which sort of looks like this
kind of racetrack-shaped thing,

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like this.

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And within one year,
they'd gone, all right,

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get rid of that.

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Now look.

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It's a tokamak.

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They converted the
machine into a tokamak

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and immediately started to get
very good performance out of it.

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So if you work on tokamaks,
which many of you do,

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you should thank
Thomson scattering.

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And it's the reason why everyone
was so convinced straight away

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that they were the way to go.

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All right, question?

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AUDIENCE: What diagnostics
did they [AUDIO OUT]?

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JACK HARE: Mostly
neutron diagnostics.

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They had neutron detectors, and
they were looking for neutrons

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because they were like,
if we have neutrons,

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there must be fusion.

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And there were fusion
reactions happening,

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but they were beam-target fusion
reactions caused by [INAUDIBLE].

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They were not isotropic.

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If they had more
neutron detectors,

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they could have
detected the anisotropy,

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and that would have been a
key signature that they didn't

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have thermonuclear fusion.

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: Did the [INAUDIBLE]?

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JACK HARE: Well, I
mean, I don't know.

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But I do know that Peacock
wrote a book about it

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called Lasers over the Cherry
Orchard or something like that,

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which I've not read but
I'm told is quite good.

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And I should read
it at some point.

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So maybe he would
have more insight

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than I do into
geopolitics in 1968.

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OK, other questions?

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Good.

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I haven't really
said anything yet.

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So let's do some math.

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Is it math next?

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Yes.

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OK, good.

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OK, so I gave you a very
handwavy explanation of it

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through plasmas and lasers.

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Let's break this down
to just a single charge.

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Here it is.

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And this charge is
initially at rest.

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And there's some wave packet.

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So think of this as
roughly a plane wave,

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but I'm just going to
draw it as a wave packet.

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It increases in amplitude and
decreases in amplitude again.

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And this wave packet
is traveling along

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in this direction.

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So this is our laser
beam going through.

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It's got some finite extent
because the pulse of the laser

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beam has some finite width.

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There would obviously be
many, many more oscillations

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within the wave packet.

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But then you won't
be able to see them

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when I drew them on the board.

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So just to be clear, particle,
and this is an EM wave.

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So, for example, this could
be electric field here.

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What does this particle
do in this electric field?

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Yeah?

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It will oscillate.

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This particle will see the
electric field going up

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and down, and it will join it.

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It will continue
going up and down.

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OK, now let's imagine some
time a little bit later,

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we now have our particle
oscillating still.

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And the wave packet
has passed on.

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What does this
particle do there?

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Hmm?

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It's an accelerating charge.

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So it will continue
to radiate away.

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Presumably, it'll
be radiating away

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little wave packets of its own.

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

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JACK HARE: Yeah, I guess we're
still dealing with a state

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where there is still some
electric field trailing off.

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So this is radiating while the
electric field is going past.

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But because it's
being accelerated

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by the electric field,
it will be emitted.

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So this is the
geometry of the problem

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that we're going
to consider here.

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We're going to consider
just plane waves here

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because it's much easier
than doing the Fourier--

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well, it's much easier when
we go into doing the Fourier

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analysis.

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So we're just going to
consider some plane waves.

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We're going to consider
a plane wave coming in.

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And this plane wave has
some wave vector Ki, which

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is in the i hat direction.

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That is just simply Ki
divided by the size of Ki.

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And there's a load of
parallel wavefronts like this.

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So these are just
constant phase.

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You can't get away
with a geometric optics

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picture of Thomson scattering.

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We've got some particle.

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And this particle is
moving in some direction

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with a velocity v,
which is a vector.

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And it's doing it
at a time t prime.

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We'll get back to this
t prime in a moment.

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There's some subtleties here
that we have to deal with.

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We also need to have an
origin in our system.

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This is the point
where we measure

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all of our displacement
vectors from.

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And so we can say that this
particle is at some distance.

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I'm going to draw it somewhere
slightly different so I

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don't have an accidental
coincidence between my vectors.

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This particle is at some
position r t prime, like this.

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So this specifies this
single particle very well,

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and this specifies our
incoming electromagnetic wave.

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Now, we assume
that there's going

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to be scattering in lots
of different directions.

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We haven't exactly solved where
all the scattered light is

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going to go to, but
maybe it goes lots

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of different directions here.

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So we're just going
to consider what

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happens if we have an
observer down here looking

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at the scattered light
from this particle.

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Well, if we have
an observer, that

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means that the light
that we are seeing

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must be heading towards it
with a wave vector Ks that

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is in the s hat direction.

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And these are more plane waves
coming towards our observer.

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And we also need a position
vector for our observer.

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And that is a
position capital R.

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We can assume that the
observer is stationary in time.

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And so I don't need to put
a time coordinate here.

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We're not going to
move our spectrometer

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during this experiment.

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And there also has to be a
vector which joins the particle

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through the observer here.

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And that is just capital
R prime, like that.

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And so just from
standard vector algebra,

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we have R equals R
prime plus r of t prime

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is just forming this
little triangle here.

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And now we need to think a
little bit about the time

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because when the
observer sees things,

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it's happening at a time t.

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But because it's taken
the light some time

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to get from the particle
to the observer,

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the observer is observing the
state of the particle at a time

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t prime.

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And that time t prime is t, but
it's earlier by a factor of R

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prime upon c, like this.

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So this is just
simply the distance.

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Whenever I drop the
vector notation,

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I'm just taking the
size of the vector here.

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So this is no longer a vector.

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OK, and this is often
called the retarded time.

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We have sort of seen
this setup before when

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we're talking about radiation
from a moving charge.

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I just want to run
through it again

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because it's very
important for understanding

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Thomson scattering.

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So what we do at this
point is we write down two

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of Maxwell's equations again--

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curl of curl of E
plus 1 upon c squared,

00:19:51.280 --> 00:19:54.940 align:middle line:84%
second partial derivative of
the electric field with respect

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to time.

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And this is equal to
minus mu 0, partial J,

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the electric current, partial t.

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Normally, when we're solving
Maxwell's equations for light

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in a vacuum, we just get rid of
this left-hand-- right-hand side

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and set it to 0 because
there's no current in a vacuum.

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But now we're dealing
with a plasma here.

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And the current in
this system here--

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well, there's only
a single particle.

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So this J is simply
equal to qv t.

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And I guess we should really
have a delta function saying

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that the current is localized
at that point there.

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I haven't specified whether
this is an electron or an ion,

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but we'll get on
to that later on.

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OK, questions?

00:20:43.620 --> 00:20:49.795 align:middle line:90%


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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

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JACK HARE: [CHUCKLES] We will
be more precise later on.

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Does it matter?

00:21:00.340 --> 00:21:01.140 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

00:21:01.140 --> 00:21:02.460 align:middle line:90%
[LAUGHS]

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But this is on the subtlety.

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So this is one of
the things where--

00:21:05.127 --> 00:21:06.720 align:middle line:84%
if you go and look
at Jackson, he's

00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.180 align:middle line:90%
very precise about all of these.

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Here I'm going to be
a little bit handwavy

00:21:09.930 --> 00:21:10.990 align:middle line:90%
until it really matters.

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But yeah.

00:21:11.760 --> 00:21:12.540 align:middle line:90%
Oh, yeah?

00:21:12.540 --> 00:21:22.490 align:middle line:90%


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Well, that's true for
this single particle.

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What if I have a
second particle and I

00:21:26.600 --> 00:21:29.340 align:middle line:84%
want to look at the
scattering from two particles?

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I can't put the origin in both
the same place, both of them.

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They're in different places.

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So I'm better off just starting
with a more generalized way

00:21:36.282 --> 00:21:36.990 align:middle line:90%
of looking at it.

00:21:36.990 --> 00:21:42.300 align:middle line:90%


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OK, yeah.

00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:43.710 align:middle line:90%
We could do this.

00:21:43.710 --> 00:21:45.470 align:middle line:90%
This is slightly more general.

00:21:45.470 --> 00:21:46.910 align:middle line:90%
What if have multiple observers?

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So, for example, if I'm
doing Thomson scattering,

00:21:48.952 --> 00:21:51.585 align:middle line:84%
I might observe from
multiple different angles.

00:21:51.585 --> 00:21:53.460 align:middle line:84%
But then I couldn't get
away with that trick.

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So this more general formula
will probably be useful.

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:22:00.650 --> 00:22:02.957 align:middle line:90%


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JACK HARE: No.

00:22:03.540 --> 00:22:06.165 align:middle line:84%
So, really, at the moment, we're
just being like, say we've got

00:22:06.165 --> 00:22:08.655 align:middle line:84%
some v of t, which, of
course, has to be changing.

00:22:08.655 --> 00:22:10.940 align:middle line:90%


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It has to be changed in time
for us to get radiation at all.

00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:14.982 align:middle line:84%
And we're going to
go back, and we'll

00:22:14.982 --> 00:22:17.730 align:middle line:84%
solve it for the oscillations
due to the electric field.

00:22:17.730 --> 00:22:20.340 align:middle line:84%
So this is really the very
general "imagine you have

00:22:20.340 --> 00:22:23.770 align:middle line:84%
a moving accelerating charge,
what's the radiation from it,"

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which you have
probably seen before.

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But we're just going
through it to set up

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the mathematics and the
diagram and all the vectors

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so that I can then use them for
doing the Thomson scattering

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derivation.

00:22:33.150 --> 00:22:34.820 align:middle line:90%
But yeah.

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:22:40.854 --> 00:22:44.233 align:middle line:90%


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JACK HARE: It doesn't matter
for this because as we found,

00:22:46.650 --> 00:22:48.930 align:middle line:84%
the refractive index only
varies by a very, very

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small amount from 1.

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So, in fact, you're
still going to--

00:22:53.360 --> 00:22:55.490 align:middle line:84%
for most reasonable
cases, if we're operating

00:22:55.490 --> 00:22:56.900 align:middle line:90%
below the critical density--

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if you're operating near
the critical density,

00:22:58.400 --> 00:22:59.870 align:middle line:84%
then your laser
beam will probably

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refract before it gets to
the center of the plasma

00:23:02.090 --> 00:23:02.930 align:middle line:90%
and can scatter.

00:23:02.930 --> 00:23:04.060 align:middle line:90%
So this is--

00:23:04.060 --> 00:23:05.730 align:middle line:84%
I guess we're making
an assumption here.

00:23:05.730 --> 00:23:06.230 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:23:06.230 --> 00:23:09.260 align:middle line:90%


00:23:09.260 --> 00:23:11.520 align:middle line:90%
No.

00:23:11.520 --> 00:23:12.030 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:23:12.030 --> 00:23:14.363 align:middle line:84%
And I will say, actually, in
this example I'm giving you

00:23:14.363 --> 00:23:16.417 align:middle line:90%
right now, there is no plasma.

00:23:16.417 --> 00:23:17.250 align:middle line:90%
There's just vacuum.

00:23:17.250 --> 00:23:18.480 align:middle line:90%
So it is just it.

00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:19.620 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:23:19.620 --> 00:23:20.915 align:middle line:90%
But that's a good point.

00:23:20.915 --> 00:23:22.290 align:middle line:84%
Maybe when we get
into plasma, we

00:23:22.290 --> 00:23:24.748 align:middle line:84%
should be a little bit more
careful about what we're doing.

00:23:24.748 --> 00:23:27.992 align:middle line:84%
And, in fact, we will substitute
out a dispersion relationship

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in the plasma that
takes into account how

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the wave propagates through it.

00:23:31.110 --> 00:23:33.120 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, OK.

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Other questions?

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OK.

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So, again, we're not going
to solve these equations.

00:23:47.010 --> 00:23:49.020 align:middle line:84%
We're just going
to remind ourselves

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that we have a near-field term
where the electric field drops

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off as 1 upon R cubed.

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And we're going to have
a far-field term where

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the electric field
drops off as 1 upon R.

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And we're going to be
far enough away that we

00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:11.920 align:middle line:90%
don't see the near-field term.

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We only see the far-field term.

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We're also going to make
some approximations here.

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We're going to say that
the length of R prime

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is approximately equal to R.
I have a terrifying feeling

00:24:25.718 --> 00:24:27.260 align:middle line:84%
that this means that
I've effectively

00:24:27.260 --> 00:24:29.343 align:middle line:90%
put my origin on the particle.

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So maybe Brian was
right all along that.

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We could have just
saved some time here.

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But this has the
effect of us being

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able to simplify our expression
for the retarded time

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to be t prime is equal to or
approximately equal to minus

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R s hat dot R over c.

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This, again, is
just looking at this

00:25:01.270 --> 00:25:03.130 align:middle line:84%
and using some of the
vectors we've got.

00:25:03.130 --> 00:25:06.037 align:middle line:84%
You see there's an R here,
s here, this sort of thing.

00:25:06.037 --> 00:25:07.870 align:middle line:84%
I think this is actually
saying that this is

00:25:07.870 --> 00:25:09.280 align:middle line:90%
an isosceles triangle, right?

00:25:09.280 --> 00:25:12.920 align:middle line:84%
So we're just saying these
two distances are similar.

00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:16.015 align:middle line:84%
We're trying to calculate
this small term here.

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This is similar to
putting our observer

00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:19.860 align:middle line:84%
far away from the
particle and the origin

00:25:19.860 --> 00:25:25.080 align:middle line:90%
of our coordinate system here.

00:25:25.080 --> 00:25:29.550 align:middle line:84%
OK, and if we do all of that, we
can go back and take a formula

00:25:29.550 --> 00:25:36.110 align:middle line:84%
from something like Jackson
for the far-field radiation.

00:25:36.110 --> 00:25:57.990 align:middle line:90%


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So the scattered
radiation-- so this

00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:05.170 align:middle line:84%
is the one coming
towards our observer.

00:26:05.170 --> 00:26:07.990 align:middle line:84%
And I'm going to use subscript s
to show that it's the scattered

00:26:07.990 --> 00:26:14.540 align:middle line:84%
radiation observed at the
observer R prime at some time

00:26:14.540 --> 00:26:17.750 align:middle line:84%
t-- so at the observer's time,
not at the particle's time--

00:26:17.750 --> 00:26:25.600 align:middle line:84%
is going to be equal to q
over 4 pi epsilon 0 capital

00:26:25.600 --> 00:26:29.740 align:middle line:84%
R, which, again,
is approximately

00:26:29.740 --> 00:26:33.410 align:middle line:90%
equal to half of R prime.

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And then we get this
interesting term,

00:26:35.215 --> 00:26:44.250 align:middle line:84%
s hat cross s hat cross
s hat minus theta.

00:26:44.250 --> 00:26:46.740 align:middle line:84%
I'll define beta again in
a moment, but some of you

00:26:46.740 --> 00:26:48.510 align:middle line:90%
will remember it from before.

00:26:48.510 --> 00:26:50.820 align:middle line:84%
And all of that
inside these brackets

00:26:50.820 --> 00:26:53.070 align:middle line:90%
is crossed with theta dot.

00:26:53.070 --> 00:26:56.020 align:middle line:90%


00:26:56.020 --> 00:26:58.270 align:middle line:84%
And I'm going to put a little
subscript right on here.

00:26:58.270 --> 00:26:59.960 align:middle line:84%
We'll get back to
it in a moment.

00:26:59.960 --> 00:27:08.330 align:middle line:84%
And this is divided by 1 minus s
hat dot theta cubed, like this.

00:27:08.330 --> 00:27:12.080 align:middle line:84%
OK, so two things in here that
I didn't define straight away--

00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:15.020 align:middle line:84%
beta is simply defined
as the velocity

00:27:15.020 --> 00:27:17.840 align:middle line:84%
of the particle normalized
to the speed of light.

00:27:17.840 --> 00:27:20.090 align:middle line:84%
This is particularly useful
because a lot of the time,

00:27:20.090 --> 00:27:22.310 align:middle line:84%
we can just take a
nonrelativistic approximation,

00:27:22.310 --> 00:27:24.360 align:middle line:84%
and this makes the
betas quite small.

00:27:24.360 --> 00:27:28.610 align:middle line:84%
And we can drop pesky terms
in the denominator here.

00:27:28.610 --> 00:27:37.440 align:middle line:84%
And this is evaluated
at the retarded time

00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.410 align:middle line:84%
because we're seeing the light
some time later at our observer,

00:27:40.410 --> 00:27:43.960 align:middle line:84%
which is emitted some time
earlier at our particle.

00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:47.490 align:middle line:84%
And if we do take this
nonrelativistic approximation,

00:27:47.490 --> 00:27:49.470 align:middle line:84%
where v upon c is
much less than 1,

00:27:49.470 --> 00:27:53.290 align:middle line:84%
then we end up with a formula
for the scattered radiation,

00:27:53.290 --> 00:28:01.350 align:middle line:84%
which is Es at R prime t is
equal to q upon 4 pi epsilon

00:28:01.350 --> 00:28:14.390 align:middle line:84%
0 c s hat cross s hat
cross theta dot over R,

00:28:14.390 --> 00:28:21.480 align:middle line:84%
where the numerator is still
evaluated at the retarded time.

00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.820 align:middle line:84%
The key thing here
is that in order

00:28:23.820 --> 00:28:26.550 align:middle line:84%
to get the scattered
electric field,

00:28:26.550 --> 00:28:32.190 align:middle line:84%
we now need to know this beta
dot, which is the particle's

00:28:32.190 --> 00:28:34.270 align:middle line:90%
trajectory or orbit.

00:28:34.270 --> 00:28:37.510 align:middle line:84%
And this is where,
as Sean was asking,

00:28:37.510 --> 00:28:39.793 align:middle line:84%
what exactly v are we
using, we'll then go back

00:28:39.793 --> 00:28:41.710 align:middle line:84%
and we'll work out how
the particle oscillates

00:28:41.710 --> 00:28:44.230 align:middle line:84%
in the electric
field of our probe.

00:28:44.230 --> 00:28:45.860 align:middle line:84%
But you might
already be thinking,

00:28:45.860 --> 00:28:47.800 align:middle line:84%
what if my particle
is also gyrating

00:28:47.800 --> 00:28:50.140 align:middle line:90%
due to some magnetic field?

00:28:50.140 --> 00:28:51.790 align:middle line:84%
We'll not get on to
that straight away,

00:28:51.790 --> 00:28:54.110 align:middle line:84%
but it is a good
question to ask yourself.

00:28:54.110 --> 00:28:55.900 align:middle line:90%
OK, how are we doing so far?

00:28:55.900 --> 00:29:12.060 align:middle line:90%


00:29:12.060 --> 00:29:13.740 align:middle line:90%
OK, let's keep going.

00:29:13.740 --> 00:29:16.435 align:middle line:90%


00:29:16.435 --> 00:29:18.310 align:middle line:84%
I'm just going to move
this word "trajectory"

00:29:18.310 --> 00:29:20.470 align:middle line:90%
because it's bit of board.

00:29:20.470 --> 00:29:34.110 align:middle line:90%


00:29:34.110 --> 00:29:42.000 align:middle line:84%
So now we want to find the
trajectory of the particle beta

00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.850 align:middle line:90%
for our incident electric field.

00:29:45.850 --> 00:29:50.640 align:middle line:84%
So this is the electric field
that is coming in and setting

00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:51.810 align:middle line:90%
the whole thing in motion.

00:29:51.810 --> 00:29:56.090 align:middle line:84%
It's got a subscript
i for incident.

00:29:56.090 --> 00:30:05.810 align:middle line:84%
So Ei at some position
R at some time t prime--

00:30:05.810 --> 00:30:07.870 align:middle line:84%
so this is looking at
the retarded time here,

00:30:07.870 --> 00:30:09.700 align:middle line:84%
this is where things
will get complicated--

00:30:09.700 --> 00:30:13.420 align:middle line:84%
is equal to whatever the
strength and polarization

00:30:13.420 --> 00:30:15.160 align:middle line:90%
of that electric field is.

00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.000 align:middle line:84%
And we'll just have
it be a plane wave.

00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.750 align:middle line:84%
So it's oscillating
sinusoidally,

00:30:19.750 --> 00:30:27.600 align:middle line:84%
and it's got a phase factor Ki
dot r minus omega i t prime.

00:30:27.600 --> 00:30:30.490 align:middle line:90%


00:30:30.490 --> 00:30:33.010 align:middle line:84%
We know that the equation
of motion for this particle

00:30:33.010 --> 00:30:41.580 align:middle line:84%
is m dv dt is equal
to minus q Ei.

00:30:41.580 --> 00:30:44.720 align:middle line:84%
I don't see the need to
write all the rest of it.

00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:46.160 align:middle line:90%
Good?

00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:50.240 align:middle line:84%
And we will assume that
the particle is initially

00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:50.810 align:middle line:90%
stationary.

00:30:50.810 --> 00:30:55.500 align:middle line:84%
So v at time 0 is
equal to 0 here.

00:30:55.500 --> 00:30:57.710 align:middle line:84%
So this is equivalent to
saying the thermal motion is

00:30:57.710 --> 00:30:59.570 align:middle line:84%
pretty negligible
compared to the motion

00:30:59.570 --> 00:31:00.800 align:middle line:90%
that we get from this.

00:31:00.800 --> 00:31:02.720 align:middle line:84%
And we will relax that
assumption later on.

00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.100 align:middle line:84%
If we want to measure
the temperature,

00:31:04.100 --> 00:31:06.308 align:middle line:84%
we're going to need to care
about the thermal motion.

00:31:06.308 --> 00:31:09.740 align:middle line:84%
But for now, we're just going
to deal with this [INAUDIBLE].

00:31:09.740 --> 00:31:13.830 align:middle line:84%
And so we solve this to
get out the beta dot, which

00:31:13.830 --> 00:31:16.560 align:middle line:84%
is effectively the
acceleration of the particle

00:31:16.560 --> 00:31:23.020 align:middle line:84%
is equal to minus q upon
mc times the i here.

00:31:23.020 --> 00:31:24.970 align:middle line:84%
The particle is
being accelerated

00:31:24.970 --> 00:31:27.820 align:middle line:84%
with the electric field,
parallel or antiparallel,

00:31:27.820 --> 00:31:29.170 align:middle line:90%
depending on the charge here.

00:31:29.170 --> 00:31:32.500 align:middle line:84%
And we can put all of that back
into our previous equation,

00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:37.210 align:middle line:84%
and we can get out that
the scattered light now

00:31:37.210 --> 00:31:42.590 align:middle line:84%
that's observed at a time at
a position prime at time t

00:31:42.590 --> 00:31:52.400 align:middle line:84%
is equal to q squared upon
4 pi epsilon 0 mc squared

00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:59.480 align:middle line:84%
times s hat cross s
hat cross Ei 0, which

00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.070 align:middle line:84%
was the strength
and polarization

00:32:01.070 --> 00:32:04.490 align:middle line:90%
of the initial electric field.

00:32:04.490 --> 00:32:07.400 align:middle line:84%
This is all evaluated
at the retarded time.

00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:09.760 align:middle line:84%
And then there's also
a factor out here,

00:32:09.760 --> 00:32:18.310 align:middle line:84%
cosine Ki dot r minus
omega i t prime.

00:32:18.310 --> 00:32:21.410 align:middle line:90%


00:32:21.410 --> 00:32:31.000 align:middle line:84%
This term here we're going
to say is roughly constant.

00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.810 align:middle line:84%
And the reason is that r is
not going to change very much.

00:32:33.810 --> 00:32:38.660 align:middle line:84%
Remember, our particle is
just oscillating up and down.

00:32:38.660 --> 00:32:40.520 align:middle line:84%
We assume it doesn't
oscillate very far.

00:32:40.520 --> 00:32:42.960 align:middle line:84%
Then its mean position
doesn't change very much.

00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.860 align:middle line:84%
And so, therefore, we can just
take this as a constant term

00:32:45.860 --> 00:32:46.380 align:middle line:90%
here.

00:32:46.380 --> 00:32:48.755 align:middle line:84%
So the only term we have to
worry about actually changing

00:32:48.755 --> 00:32:51.590 align:middle line:90%
here is omega i t prime.

00:32:51.590 --> 00:32:55.290 align:middle line:84%
OK, someone tell me something
interesting about this formula.

00:32:55.290 --> 00:32:55.800 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:32:55.800 --> 00:32:59.195 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:32:59.195 --> 00:33:04.540 align:middle line:90%


00:33:04.540 --> 00:33:07.030 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: Yeah, I'm trying
to work out if I've dropped it

00:33:07.030 --> 00:33:08.740 align:middle line:84%
or whether it disappeared
for some other reason.

00:33:08.740 --> 00:33:10.370 align:middle line:84%
I can't see a good
reason to drop it.

00:33:10.370 --> 00:33:12.730 align:middle line:84%
So I'm going to put
it back in for now.

00:33:12.730 --> 00:33:13.240 align:middle line:90%
Thank you.

00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.060 align:middle line:90%


00:33:16.060 --> 00:33:18.130 align:middle line:84%
We would have trouble
conserving energy

00:33:18.130 --> 00:33:21.940 align:middle line:84%
if we didn't put it there--
so probably for the best.

00:33:21.940 --> 00:33:24.047 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:33:24.047 --> 00:33:26.130 align:middle line:84%
Tell me something interesting
about this equation.

00:33:26.130 --> 00:33:30.140 align:middle line:90%


00:33:30.140 --> 00:33:32.568 align:middle line:84%
Do I care more about
scattering in a plasma

00:33:32.568 --> 00:33:33.860 align:middle line:90%
from the electrons or the ions?

00:33:33.860 --> 00:33:37.115 align:middle line:90%


00:33:37.115 --> 00:33:37.615 align:middle line:90%
Why?

00:33:37.615 --> 00:33:40.510 align:middle line:90%


00:33:40.510 --> 00:33:42.590 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:33:42.590 --> 00:33:45.770 align:middle line:84%
So electron
scattering dominates.

00:33:45.770 --> 00:33:47.270 align:middle line:90%
And we will no longer--

00:33:47.270 --> 00:33:50.840 align:middle line:84%
from this point onwards, we will
not consider the ion scattering

00:33:50.840 --> 00:33:53.570 align:middle line:84%
at all, because it'll be smaller
by a factor of at least 2,000

00:33:53.570 --> 00:33:54.340 align:middle line:90%
in the electrons.

00:33:54.340 --> 00:33:55.410 align:middle line:90%
It's irrelevant.

00:33:55.410 --> 00:33:57.800 align:middle line:84%
It may be there, but it
won't be easy to measure over

00:33:57.800 --> 00:33:59.360 align:middle line:90%
the electrons.

00:33:59.360 --> 00:34:01.610 align:middle line:84%
Later on, we will now be
talking about scattering

00:34:01.610 --> 00:34:03.980 align:middle line:84%
from the ion feature and
the electron feature.

00:34:03.980 --> 00:34:05.060 align:middle line:90%
I want to be very clear.

00:34:05.060 --> 00:34:07.160 align:middle line:84%
Whenever we're talking
about Thomson scattering,

00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.260 align:middle line:90%
we are scattering off electrons.

00:34:09.260 --> 00:34:12.409 align:middle line:84%
Some of those electrons know
about what the ions are up to.

00:34:12.409 --> 00:34:14.090 align:middle line:84%
Some of those electrons
know about what

00:34:14.090 --> 00:34:15.264 align:middle line:90%
the electrons are up to.

00:34:15.264 --> 00:34:16.639 align:middle line:84%
It's to do with
the bi-shielding.

00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:17.790 align:middle line:90%
We'll talk about it more.

00:34:17.790 --> 00:34:21.020 align:middle line:84%
But if anyone ever asks you,
what is Thomson scattering from,

00:34:21.020 --> 00:34:22.429 align:middle line:90%
it is from the electron.

00:34:22.429 --> 00:34:24.830 align:middle line:84%
You cannot measure easily
Thomson scattering from

00:34:24.830 --> 00:34:26.340 align:middle line:90%
the ions.

00:34:26.340 --> 00:34:28.980 align:middle line:84%
The second interesting
thing about this formula

00:34:28.980 --> 00:34:30.570 align:middle line:90%
is, of course, it's a mess.

00:34:30.570 --> 00:34:33.270 align:middle line:84%
We're trying to evaluate
this at some time t.

00:34:33.270 --> 00:34:35.159 align:middle line:90%
But there's t primes here.

00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:36.427 align:middle line:90%
There's a retarded time.

00:34:36.427 --> 00:34:38.219 align:middle line:84%
So if we want to make
any good use of this,

00:34:38.219 --> 00:34:39.900 align:middle line:84%
we're going to have
to sort all of this

00:34:39.900 --> 00:34:43.600 align:middle line:84%
out and write it in terms of
some consistent time here.

00:34:43.600 --> 00:34:45.540 align:middle line:84%
But before we get
on to that, I want

00:34:45.540 --> 00:34:48.677 align:middle line:84%
to just look at how much power
is being scattered from this.

00:34:48.677 --> 00:34:50.969 align:middle line:84%
So this is the electric field
which is being scattered.

00:34:50.969 --> 00:34:54.153 align:middle line:84%
But we also want to know what
the power being scattered is.

00:34:54.153 --> 00:34:55.570 align:middle line:84%
Is that all I have
to say on that?

00:34:55.570 --> 00:34:56.070 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:34:56.070 --> 00:34:58.280 align:middle line:90%


00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:03.710 align:middle line:90%
So this is the scattered power.

00:35:03.710 --> 00:35:12.310 align:middle line:90%


00:35:12.310 --> 00:35:18.080 align:middle line:84%
So this has units of watts per
steradian, per solid angle.

00:35:18.080 --> 00:35:22.120 align:middle line:84%
And we often write
it as dt d omega s.

00:35:22.120 --> 00:35:28.040 align:middle line:84%
This omega here is some
differential solid angle.

00:35:28.040 --> 00:35:29.920 align:middle line:90%
So this is ds like that.

00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.890 align:middle line:84%
We have some scattering
source here scattered

00:35:32.890 --> 00:35:35.030 align:middle line:84%
through some area
at some distance.

00:35:35.030 --> 00:35:36.020 align:middle line:90%
That's the solid angle.

00:35:36.020 --> 00:35:37.480 align:middle line:90%
And so this ds can change.

00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.940 align:middle line:84%
We can have-- for example, if
our electron is oscillating

00:35:39.940 --> 00:35:42.148 align:middle line:84%
up and down like this,
there's no good reason

00:35:42.148 --> 00:35:44.440 align:middle line:84%
to expect that it's the same
amount of energy scattered

00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:48.310 align:middle line:84%
into this volume as there is
scattered into this volume.

00:35:48.310 --> 00:35:50.180 align:middle line:84%
We'll talk about that
in just a moment.

00:35:50.180 --> 00:35:51.490 align:middle line:90%
So this is what this means.

00:35:51.490 --> 00:35:55.155 align:middle line:84%
You have to actually know which
direction you're scattering to.

00:35:55.155 --> 00:35:56.530 align:middle line:84%
And there's an
equation from this

00:35:56.530 --> 00:35:58.690 align:middle line:84%
that you can find,
Jackson or similar, which

00:35:58.690 --> 00:36:02.470 align:middle line:84%
looks like r
squared c epsilon 0,

00:36:02.470 --> 00:36:08.560 align:middle line:84%
and then the time average of
the scattered electric field

00:36:08.560 --> 00:36:12.640 align:middle line:84%
averaged with itself,
dotted with itself.

00:36:12.640 --> 00:36:14.890 align:middle line:84%
Yeah, it's a good thing I
did put that r back in there

00:36:14.890 --> 00:36:17.182 align:middle line:84%
because that's going to cancel
out with this r squared.

00:36:17.182 --> 00:36:19.640 align:middle line:84%
So now I don't have to
think about it anymore.

00:36:19.640 --> 00:36:21.760 align:middle line:84%
And the key thing
here is we're going

00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:28.745 align:middle line:84%
to end up with a term that looks
like s hat cross s hat cross Ei

00:36:28.745 --> 00:36:32.220 align:middle line:90%
0 squared.

00:36:32.220 --> 00:36:34.880 align:middle line:84%
And if we say that
our electric field is

00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:38.990 align:middle line:84%
in this direction, which is also
the direction the particle is

00:36:38.990 --> 00:36:42.830 align:middle line:84%
oscillating in, and we define
some angle with respect

00:36:42.830 --> 00:36:45.427 align:middle line:84%
to that electric
field, phi here--

00:36:45.427 --> 00:36:47.010 align:middle line:84%
so this is like a
polar angle, I don't

00:36:47.010 --> 00:36:49.950 align:middle line:84%
care about the azimuthal angle,
just the polar angle here--

00:36:49.950 --> 00:36:52.830 align:middle line:84%
then you can do
some vector algebra

00:36:52.830 --> 00:37:01.270 align:middle line:84%
and find out that this can be
written as sine squared of phi

00:37:01.270 --> 00:37:05.190 align:middle line:90%
Ei 0 squared, like that.

00:37:05.190 --> 00:37:10.125 align:middle line:84%
So our total scattered
power looks like--

00:37:10.125 --> 00:37:12.500 align:middle line:84%
did I skip the thing about
the classical electron radius?

00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:17.021 align:middle line:90%


00:37:17.021 --> 00:37:18.850 align:middle line:90%
Oh, I did.

00:37:18.850 --> 00:37:19.350 align:middle line:90%
Excuse me.

00:37:19.350 --> 00:37:22.760 align:middle line:90%


00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:26.000 align:middle line:84%
So if we say that these
are electrons-- so we

00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:31.130 align:middle line:84%
say that q equals minus
e and m equals m e,

00:37:31.130 --> 00:37:36.850 align:middle line:84%
then this whole term here looks
like the classical electron

00:37:36.850 --> 00:37:37.350 align:middle line:90%
radius.

00:37:37.350 --> 00:37:39.600 align:middle line:84%
So this is, using classical
physics, how big you would

00:37:39.600 --> 00:37:40.970 align:middle line:90%
estimate an electron to be.

00:37:40.970 --> 00:37:42.400 align:middle line:84%
There is nothing
that is actually

00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.150 align:middle line:84%
the size of the classical
electron radius.

00:37:44.150 --> 00:37:45.262 align:middle line:90%
It's just a length scale.

00:37:45.262 --> 00:37:47.720 align:middle line:84%
And this is a useful length
scale that we'll be using here.

00:37:47.720 --> 00:37:50.720 align:middle line:84%
Notice this kind of has to be
the case because dimensionally,

00:37:50.720 --> 00:37:52.070 align:middle line:90%
we've got electric field here.

00:37:52.070 --> 00:37:53.630 align:middle line:90%
We've got electric fields here.

00:37:53.630 --> 00:37:54.945 align:middle line:90%
These are unit vectors.

00:37:54.945 --> 00:37:56.820 align:middle line:84%
We've got some of these
dimensions of length.

00:37:56.820 --> 00:37:58.160 align:middle line:84%
So to make this
balance, you knew

00:37:58.160 --> 00:37:59.600 align:middle line:84%
this was going to have
some length scale.

00:37:59.600 --> 00:38:01.880 align:middle line:84%
And we just call it the
classical electron radius--

00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.037 align:middle line:84%
just some length
scale, not very big.

00:38:06.037 --> 00:38:07.870 align:middle line:84%
And so then we can write
the scattered power

00:38:07.870 --> 00:38:13.300 align:middle line:84%
as classical electron
radius squared

00:38:13.300 --> 00:38:18.810 align:middle line:84%
sine squared phi speed
of light epsilon 0,

00:38:18.810 --> 00:38:26.050 align:middle line:84%
size of or strength of the
incident electric field here.

00:38:26.050 --> 00:38:28.930 align:middle line:84%
This amount of light we're
scattering into some solid angle

00:38:28.930 --> 00:38:30.200 align:middle line:90%
in some direction.

00:38:30.200 --> 00:38:34.760 align:middle line:90%
And if we sketch this--

00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:36.640 align:middle line:90%
so this is the electric field--

00:38:36.640 --> 00:38:38.608 align:middle line:84%
and we do a polar
plot of this, we

00:38:38.608 --> 00:38:40.900 align:middle line:84%
find out that most of the
light is scattered, actually,

00:38:40.900 --> 00:38:42.850 align:middle line:90%
at 90 degrees electric field.

00:38:42.850 --> 00:38:45.947 align:middle line:90%


00:38:45.947 --> 00:38:47.530 align:middle line:84%
You imagine this
being rotated around.

00:38:47.530 --> 00:38:50.260 align:middle line:84%
This is sort of like a
red blood cell type shape,

00:38:50.260 --> 00:38:52.570 align:middle line:84%
where you have most of
your emission out here,

00:38:52.570 --> 00:38:54.990 align:middle line:84%
you have a very small
emission in this direction,

00:38:54.990 --> 00:38:57.850 align:middle line:84%
and you have no
emission along E--

00:38:57.850 --> 00:39:05.390 align:middle line:84%
so dp d omega s parallel
to E is equal to 0.

00:39:05.390 --> 00:39:08.780 align:middle line:90%


00:39:08.780 --> 00:39:14.360 align:middle line:84%
This is for the case
with nonrelativistic.

00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.040 align:middle line:84%
Does anyone know
what happens if we

00:39:16.040 --> 00:39:19.150 align:middle line:84%
look at the scattering from
a relativistic particle?

00:39:19.150 --> 00:39:21.610 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:39:21.610 --> 00:39:25.250 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: You get more
scattering [INAUDIBLE].

00:39:25.250 --> 00:39:29.460 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: Yeah, it sort of
starts looking like this.

00:39:29.460 --> 00:39:31.400 align:middle line:90%
So this is often called beaming.

00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:38.647 align:middle line:90%


00:39:38.647 --> 00:39:40.730 align:middle line:84%
And it goes in the direction
of the electric field

00:39:40.730 --> 00:39:45.495 align:middle line:84%
and, therefore, in the direction
of the motion of the particle.

00:39:45.495 --> 00:39:47.125 align:middle line:84%
I guess when the
particle reverses,

00:39:47.125 --> 00:39:48.250 align:middle line:90%
this also reverses as well.

00:39:48.250 --> 00:39:49.750 align:middle line:84%
So this is important
if you're doing

00:39:49.750 --> 00:39:52.020 align:middle line:84%
Thomson scattering in plasmas
which are relativistic.

00:39:52.020 --> 00:39:54.090 align:middle line:84%
You might want to
think about this.

00:39:54.090 --> 00:39:55.940 align:middle line:84%
If you're not in a
relativistic regime,

00:39:55.940 --> 00:39:57.570 align:middle line:84%
if you're a nice
classical regime,

00:39:57.570 --> 00:40:00.305 align:middle line:84%
then it's important to note
that your choice of polarization

00:40:00.305 --> 00:40:01.680 align:middle line:84%
of your laser beam
dictates where

00:40:01.680 --> 00:40:02.847 align:middle line:90%
the light will be scattered.

00:40:02.847 --> 00:40:04.560 align:middle line:84%
If you fire a laser
beam like this,

00:40:04.560 --> 00:40:07.690 align:middle line:84%
and it's polarized in this
direction pointing upwards,

00:40:07.690 --> 00:40:10.300 align:middle line:84%
and you put a spectrometer
above looking down,

00:40:10.300 --> 00:40:11.250 align:middle line:90%
you will see no light.

00:40:11.250 --> 00:40:13.800 align:middle line:84%
And I have done this
experiment, accidentally.

00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:15.310 align:middle line:90%
And it's very frustrating.

00:40:15.310 --> 00:40:16.560 align:middle line:90%
So you want to make sure--

00:40:16.560 --> 00:40:19.945 align:middle line:84%
honest-- that if you
want to collect upwards,

00:40:19.945 --> 00:40:21.820 align:middle line:84%
you want to have your
polarization like that.

00:40:21.820 --> 00:40:24.660 align:middle line:84%
Otherwise, you just won't
see anything at all.

00:40:24.660 --> 00:40:27.660 align:middle line:84%
But it doesn't matter, with
respect to the electric field,

00:40:27.660 --> 00:40:31.520 align:middle line:84%
where you collect, because this
has no as azimuthal dependence

00:40:31.520 --> 00:40:32.020 align:middle line:90%
here.

00:40:32.020 --> 00:40:33.870 align:middle line:84%
So I have my electric--
my light going

00:40:33.870 --> 00:40:36.240 align:middle line:84%
through this, my electric
field pointing up,

00:40:36.240 --> 00:40:40.120 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to get scattering
in every direction like this.

00:40:40.120 --> 00:40:42.568 align:middle line:84%
And so I can put
lots of spectrometers

00:40:42.568 --> 00:40:44.610 align:middle line:84%
at lots of different
positions around the plasma,

00:40:44.610 --> 00:40:45.930 align:middle line:90%
and they will all see light.

00:40:45.930 --> 00:40:46.545 align:middle line:90%
OK, question?

00:40:46.545 --> 00:40:51.240 align:middle line:90%


00:40:51.240 --> 00:40:53.066 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So where
is [INAUDIBLE]?

00:40:53.066 --> 00:41:06.348 align:middle line:90%


00:41:06.348 --> 00:41:07.890 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: Well,
there's this t here,

00:41:07.890 --> 00:41:09.285 align:middle line:90%
and there's this t prime here.

00:41:09.285 --> 00:41:17.520 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] because if
the cosine term is [INAUDIBLE].

00:41:17.520 --> 00:41:18.270 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yeah.

00:41:18.270 --> 00:41:20.310 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: --the cross product--

00:41:20.310 --> 00:41:23.478 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: This is being
evaluated at t prime as well.

00:41:23.478 --> 00:41:26.550 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:41:26.550 --> 00:41:28.590 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: Yeah, but this
is the equation at t.

00:41:28.590 --> 00:41:31.457 align:middle line:84%
So we still need to do a
little bit of substitution

00:41:31.457 --> 00:41:32.790 align:middle line:90%
to get between the two of these.

00:41:32.790 --> 00:41:34.140 align:middle line:84%
And this just gets
a little bit subtle

00:41:34.140 --> 00:41:36.300 align:middle line:84%
because we're going to start
Fourier transforming them soon.

00:41:36.300 --> 00:41:36.800 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.710 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:41:38.710 --> 00:41:40.940 align:middle line:90%


00:41:40.940 --> 00:41:44.190 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: Yes, and we see stuff
that happened R upon c earlier,

00:41:44.190 --> 00:41:44.690 align:middle line:90%
right?

00:41:44.690 --> 00:41:47.850 align:middle line:84%
But you could
imagine, especially--

00:41:47.850 --> 00:41:50.560 align:middle line:84%
this becomes especially
important if you don't have

00:41:50.560 --> 00:41:52.810 align:middle line:84%
a plane wave, which is just
a continuous wave in time,

00:41:52.810 --> 00:41:54.007 align:middle line:90%
but if you have a pulse.

00:41:54.007 --> 00:41:55.590 align:middle line:84%
Then it starts to
get very complicated

00:41:55.590 --> 00:41:57.210 align:middle line:84%
to keep track of
all these t primes.

00:41:57.210 --> 00:41:58.620 align:middle line:84%
So you're going to see
a lot of them come up,

00:41:58.620 --> 00:42:00.412 align:middle line:84%
and I'm going to do my
best to get it right

00:42:00.412 --> 00:42:02.370 align:middle line:84%
but will probably make
a mistake somewhere.

00:42:02.370 --> 00:42:03.015 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:42:03.015 --> 00:42:04.140 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: What [INAUDIBLE]?

00:42:04.140 --> 00:42:12.965 align:middle line:90%


00:42:12.965 --> 00:42:13.590 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yes.

00:42:13.590 --> 00:42:15.007 align:middle line:84%
But, again, it
becomes complicated

00:42:15.007 --> 00:42:18.210 align:middle line:84%
when you do the Fourier
transform because what we need

00:42:18.210 --> 00:42:19.807 align:middle line:90%
to do is find out a spectra.

00:42:19.807 --> 00:42:22.140 align:middle line:84%
So at the moment, this is a
time-varying electric field.

00:42:22.140 --> 00:42:24.100 align:middle line:84%
But we don't tend
to measure that.

00:42:24.100 --> 00:42:27.150 align:middle line:84%
So imagine that your laser beam
is going through the plasma.

00:42:27.150 --> 00:42:28.950 align:middle line:90%
It's a visible green laser beam.

00:42:28.950 --> 00:42:31.720 align:middle line:84%
And so its frequency
is extremely large.

00:42:31.720 --> 00:42:33.720 align:middle line:84%
We don't have a detector
that can digitize that.

00:42:33.720 --> 00:42:36.150 align:middle line:84%
What we have is a spectrometer
that disperses light

00:42:36.150 --> 00:42:37.502 align:middle line:90%
depending on its frequency.

00:42:37.502 --> 00:42:39.960 align:middle line:84%
So we have to do all of this
instead in the Fourier domain.

00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:41.470 align:middle line:84%
I'm setting it up
in the time domain,

00:42:41.470 --> 00:42:43.387 align:middle line:84%
but we're going to Fourier
transform later on.

00:42:43.387 --> 00:42:46.210 align:middle line:84%
And that's when you have to
really start thinking, like,

00:42:46.210 --> 00:42:49.680 align:middle line:84%
am I doing E to the i omega t
or E to the i omega t prime?

00:42:49.680 --> 00:42:53.340 align:middle line:84%
And if it's t prime,
all of a sudden,

00:42:53.340 --> 00:42:54.610 align:middle line:90%
there's an R inside there.

00:42:54.610 --> 00:42:56.730 align:middle line:84%
So now I'm doing a Fourier
transform with respect to space

00:42:56.730 --> 00:42:58.022 align:middle line:90%
as well as time in the same go.

00:42:58.022 --> 00:42:59.020 align:middle line:90%
This gets complicated.

00:42:59.020 --> 00:43:00.480 align:middle line:84%
So I'm just sort
of setting you up

00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:02.670 align:middle line:84%
to think this will be hard,
though I agree right now

00:43:02.670 --> 00:43:03.628 align:middle line:90%
it looks quite trivial.

00:43:03.628 --> 00:43:04.590 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:43:04.590 --> 00:43:06.816 align:middle line:90%
Was there a question online?

00:43:06.816 --> 00:43:07.590 align:middle line:90%
Oh, maybe not.

00:43:07.590 --> 00:43:10.280 align:middle line:90%
Other questions?

00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.410 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:43:12.410 --> 00:43:21.655 align:middle line:90%


00:43:21.655 --> 00:43:23.030 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: Yeah,
so you're saying

00:43:23.030 --> 00:43:24.380 align:middle line:84%
that as the particle
starts to oscillate,

00:43:24.380 --> 00:43:26.005 align:middle line:84%
it will have some
velocity, and then it

00:43:26.005 --> 00:43:27.650 align:middle line:90%
should feel the magnetic field.

00:43:27.650 --> 00:43:30.380 align:middle line:84%
We are going to assume
that the velocity is still

00:43:30.380 --> 00:43:32.760 align:middle line:84%
quite small so that we don't
have to worry about that.

00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:34.640 align:middle line:84%
So that's kind of saying that
the particle doesn't actually

00:43:34.640 --> 00:43:37.098 align:middle line:84%
get accelerated very far Before
the electric field reverses

00:43:37.098 --> 00:43:38.250 align:middle line:90%
and sends it the other way.

00:43:38.250 --> 00:43:40.010 align:middle line:84%
So its velocity never
gets large enough

00:43:40.010 --> 00:43:41.060 align:middle line:84%
that we have to
worry about that,

00:43:41.060 --> 00:43:42.720 align:middle line:84%
because that sounds
like a nightmare.

00:43:42.720 --> 00:43:45.680 align:middle line:84%
But, yeah, you could, in
theory, extend this treatment

00:43:45.680 --> 00:43:46.430 align:middle line:90%
to include that.

00:43:46.430 --> 00:43:47.980 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:43:47.980 --> 00:43:50.670 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:43:50.670 --> 00:43:53.862 align:middle line:90%


00:43:53.862 --> 00:43:54.820 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Right, yeah.

00:43:54.820 --> 00:43:57.070 align:middle line:84%
So the electromagnetic
wave has a magnetic field.

00:43:57.070 --> 00:43:59.320 align:middle line:84%
And the force on
it is v cross B.

00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.470 align:middle line:84%
So if I don't want that force to
be large, I just keep v small.

00:44:02.470 --> 00:44:05.350 align:middle line:84%
I keep v small by making
my frequency large enough

00:44:05.350 --> 00:44:07.223 align:middle line:84%
that the electron never
really has a chance

00:44:07.223 --> 00:44:09.640 align:middle line:84%
to accelerate very fast or the
electric field turns around

00:44:09.640 --> 00:44:11.830 align:middle line:90%
and turns it the other way.

00:44:11.830 --> 00:44:13.737 align:middle line:84%
And this very simple
treatment to get us

00:44:13.737 --> 00:44:15.820 align:middle line:84%
through just scattering
of a single particle is 0.

00:44:15.820 --> 00:44:18.440 align:middle line:84%
And, of course, very soon,
we need it to be nonzero.

00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:20.260 align:middle line:90%
So, yeah, great.

00:44:20.260 --> 00:44:21.599 align:middle line:90%
Any other questions?

00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:26.090 align:middle line:90%


00:44:26.090 --> 00:44:29.240 align:middle line:90%
Ooh, boy.

00:44:29.240 --> 00:44:32.000 align:middle line:84%
OK, another quantity
we want to calculate

00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:33.262 align:middle line:90%
is the total cross-section.

00:44:33.262 --> 00:44:34.970 align:middle line:84%
So this is the
differential cross-section

00:44:34.970 --> 00:44:35.975 align:middle line:90%
here in terms of power.

00:44:35.975 --> 00:44:38.866 align:middle line:90%


00:44:38.866 --> 00:44:39.480 align:middle line:90%
Ah, sorry.

00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:44.086 align:middle line:84%
This is the-- what's
the right word for this?

00:44:44.086 --> 00:44:45.530 align:middle line:90%
This is the scattered power.

00:44:45.530 --> 00:44:48.030 align:middle line:84%
We also want to calculate a
quantity called the differential

00:44:48.030 --> 00:44:48.807 align:middle line:90%
cross-section.

00:44:48.807 --> 00:44:50.640 align:middle line:84%
This is where I wished
had a bit more space,

00:44:50.640 --> 00:44:53.160 align:middle line:84%
but I think I'm just
going to use this.

00:44:53.160 --> 00:45:00.350 align:middle line:90%


00:45:00.350 --> 00:45:03.320 align:middle line:84%
So the differential
cross-section

00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.440 align:middle line:84%
is the probability of this
scattering event happening

00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.320 align:middle line:84%
and scattering a photon
in a certain direction

00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:11.790 align:middle line:84%
through a certain
solid angle, d mu s.

00:45:11.790 --> 00:45:15.650 align:middle line:84%
And it's basically equal
to the scattered power,

00:45:15.650 --> 00:45:18.540 align:middle line:84%
but we're no longer
interested in the power.

00:45:18.540 --> 00:45:24.460 align:middle line:84%
So we just divide through
by c epsilon 0 Ei squared.

00:45:24.460 --> 00:45:25.840 align:middle line:90%
So that's the incident power.

00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:30.230 align:middle line:90%


00:45:30.230 --> 00:45:31.590 align:middle line:90%
And we're just dividing it out.

00:45:31.590 --> 00:45:34.910 align:middle line:84%
So now we'll have something
that just simply looks

00:45:34.910 --> 00:45:39.350 align:middle line:90%
like r e sine squared phi.

00:45:39.350 --> 00:45:41.510 align:middle line:84%
The reason to do that
is to say, well, this

00:45:41.510 --> 00:45:45.890 align:middle line:84%
is the probability of a photon
scattering into some solid angle

00:45:45.890 --> 00:45:47.900 align:middle line:90%
in some direction omega s.

00:45:47.900 --> 00:45:50.240 align:middle line:84%
What's just the probability
of it scattering?

00:45:50.240 --> 00:45:52.610 align:middle line:84%
Well, that probability,
the total probability

00:45:52.610 --> 00:45:54.050 align:middle line:84%
of any scattering
event happening,

00:45:54.050 --> 00:46:02.800 align:middle line:84%
is then equal to our E squared
sine squared phi d omega,

00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:05.860 align:middle line:84%
integrating over
all the solid angle,

00:46:05.860 --> 00:46:13.830 align:middle line:84%
that the omega is 2
pi sine phi d phi.

00:46:13.830 --> 00:46:15.930 align:middle line:84%
So this is just the
infinitesimal area element

00:46:15.930 --> 00:46:18.762 align:middle line:84%
for a cylindrically
symmetric system.

00:46:18.762 --> 00:46:20.220 align:middle line:84%
And when you perform
this integral,

00:46:20.220 --> 00:46:28.750 align:middle line:84%
you get out 8 upon
3 pi r e squared.

00:46:28.750 --> 00:46:33.712 align:middle line:84%
OK, this is extremely important
because these are all constants.

00:46:33.712 --> 00:46:36.170 align:middle line:84%
It doesn't depend on your laser
or your plasma or anything.

00:46:36.170 --> 00:46:37.878 align:middle line:84%
This is just the chance
of scattering off

00:46:37.878 --> 00:46:39.490 align:middle line:90%
a particle, off an electron.

00:46:39.490 --> 00:46:47.640 align:middle line:84%
And this number is 6.7 times 10
to the minus 29 meters squared.

00:46:47.640 --> 00:46:51.950 align:middle line:84%
So if we have a plasma
with a density of any,

00:46:51.950 --> 00:46:56.570 align:middle line:84%
any particles that scatter off,
and it's got some length L-- so

00:46:56.570 --> 00:47:04.170 align:middle line:84%
where the laser beam is
going through some distance L

00:47:04.170 --> 00:47:06.810 align:middle line:84%
with some number of
particles per unit volume ne,

00:47:06.810 --> 00:47:10.270 align:middle line:84%
and we times this by the
scattering cross-section here,

00:47:10.270 --> 00:47:12.870 align:middle line:84%
and if I put this
in some numbers

00:47:12.870 --> 00:47:17.428 align:middle line:84%
here-- so ne is maybe 10
to 14 per meter cubed.

00:47:17.428 --> 00:47:18.720 align:middle line:90%
I don't know why I picked this.

00:47:18.720 --> 00:47:20.520 align:middle line:84%
It seems kind of
dense for a tokamak.

00:47:20.520 --> 00:47:22.560 align:middle line:84%
But-- I don't know,
not very-- yeah, kind

00:47:22.560 --> 00:47:25.410 align:middle line:84%
of dense we're talking about,
not very dense for other things.

00:47:25.410 --> 00:47:31.280 align:middle line:90%


00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:32.240 align:middle line:90%
That's not that dense.

00:47:32.240 --> 00:47:35.693 align:middle line:90%


00:47:35.693 --> 00:47:37.610 align:middle line:84%
Yeah, it is meant to be
sent to me centimeters

00:47:37.610 --> 00:47:39.985 align:middle line:84%
because then the number I
write down doesn't work either.

00:47:39.985 --> 00:47:43.020 align:middle line:84%
OK, that's a pretty dense
for a tokamak, right?

00:47:43.020 --> 00:47:43.520 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:47:43.520 --> 00:47:45.050 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:47:45.050 --> 00:47:47.400 align:middle line:84%
And then let's say this
length looks like 1 meter.

00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:50.150 align:middle line:84%
So this is looking a lot
more like a tokamak here.

00:47:50.150 --> 00:47:55.910 align:middle line:84%
Then this is equal
to 10 to the minus 8.

00:47:55.910 --> 00:47:58.685 align:middle line:90%
So this is scattered photons--

00:47:58.685 --> 00:48:03.810 align:middle line:90%


00:48:03.810 --> 00:48:16.215 align:middle line:84%
scattered-- over
incident photons.

00:48:16.215 --> 00:48:19.980 align:middle line:90%


00:48:19.980 --> 00:48:25.550 align:middle line:84%
So if I put 10 to the 8
photons in, I get 1 photon out.

00:48:25.550 --> 00:48:28.180 align:middle line:84%
Can someone tell me something
interesting about Thomson

00:48:28.180 --> 00:48:29.152 align:middle line:90%
scattering?

00:48:29.152 --> 00:48:42.436 align:middle line:90%


00:48:42.436 --> 00:48:43.413 align:middle line:90%
So that's very true.

00:48:43.413 --> 00:48:44.830 align:middle line:84%
So, yeah, we
definitely don't want

00:48:44.830 --> 00:48:47.205 align:middle line:84%
to put our detector somewhere
where the beam will hit it.

00:48:47.205 --> 00:48:50.480 align:middle line:84%
What if we put the
detector somewhere else?

00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:51.700 align:middle line:90%
Is this an easy technique?

00:48:51.700 --> 00:48:55.290 align:middle line:90%
Is it a hard technique?

00:48:55.290 --> 00:48:57.450 align:middle line:84%
I'm putting a lot
of laser-- so if I

00:48:57.450 --> 00:49:00.420 align:middle line:84%
put in a joule of
laser energy, I'm

00:49:00.420 --> 00:49:04.170 align:middle line:84%
going to get out 10 to the minus
8, 10 nanojoules of laser energy

00:49:04.170 --> 00:49:06.790 align:middle line:90%
distributed in 4 pi.

00:49:06.790 --> 00:49:09.150 align:middle line:84%
So when I put my
detector there and it's

00:49:09.150 --> 00:49:11.490 align:middle line:84%
got a solid angle
that is not 4 pi,

00:49:11.490 --> 00:49:13.420 align:middle line:84%
that number will go
down even further.

00:49:13.420 --> 00:49:14.880 align:middle line:84%
So this is a very
hard technique.

00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.340 align:middle line:84%
Thomson scattering is
difficult. There's not very much

00:49:17.340 --> 00:49:18.060 align:middle line:90%
scattered light.

00:49:18.060 --> 00:49:21.660 align:middle line:84%
You need a very powerful laser
source in order to do it.

00:49:21.660 --> 00:49:23.490 align:middle line:84%
Can someone tell
me something else

00:49:23.490 --> 00:49:25.185 align:middle line:90%
interesting about this result?

00:49:25.185 --> 00:49:28.890 align:middle line:90%


00:49:28.890 --> 00:49:31.160 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:49:31.160 --> 00:49:33.770 align:middle line:84%
So denser plasmas, it's
easier, definitely.

00:49:33.770 --> 00:49:34.310 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:49:34.310 --> 00:49:35.000 align:middle line:90%
That's true.

00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.025 align:middle line:84%
But, of course, yeah, it
depends on this length as well

00:49:38.025 --> 00:49:39.650 align:middle line:84%
a little bit, and
how you're collecting

00:49:39.650 --> 00:49:43.110 align:middle line:84%
the light because you're
not collecting it--

00:49:43.110 --> 00:49:46.600 align:middle line:84%
if you have a
spectrometer looking here,

00:49:46.600 --> 00:49:49.155 align:middle line:84%
you're only collecting it over
a relatively short length.

00:49:49.155 --> 00:49:50.530 align:middle line:84%
You're not probably
collecting it

00:49:50.530 --> 00:49:51.770 align:middle line:84%
over the total
length of the plasma.

00:49:51.770 --> 00:49:53.350 align:middle line:84%
So this is an upper
bound on the total number

00:49:53.350 --> 00:49:54.340 align:middle line:90%
of photons scattered.

00:49:54.340 --> 00:49:56.860 align:middle line:84%
And as we said with solid
angle and your small collection

00:49:56.860 --> 00:50:00.140 align:middle line:84%
volume, you'll scatter
many fewer photons.

00:50:00.140 --> 00:50:01.390 align:middle line:90%
What about double scattering?

00:50:01.390 --> 00:50:03.850 align:middle line:84%
Should I ever worry about
a photon scattering off

00:50:03.850 --> 00:50:06.445 align:middle line:84%
an electron and
then, having done

00:50:06.445 --> 00:50:08.320 align:middle line:84%
some weird shift in
frequency, scattering off

00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:09.070 align:middle line:90%
a second electron?

00:50:09.070 --> 00:50:11.260 align:middle line:84%
Do I need to account for
that in my calculation?

00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:13.230 align:middle line:90%
Never, ever, ever, ever, right?

00:50:13.230 --> 00:50:16.060 align:middle line:84%
I mean, maybe if you got to
extremely high densities,

00:50:16.060 --> 00:50:18.740 align:middle line:84%
but this is not something
that we need to worry about.

00:50:18.740 --> 00:50:21.770 align:middle line:84%
So we're just looking for
scattering of single particles.

00:50:21.770 --> 00:50:23.422 align:middle line:90%
This is very important.

00:50:23.422 --> 00:50:38.210 align:middle line:90%


00:50:38.210 --> 00:50:40.870 align:middle line:84%
And this is why this
is a local measurement,

00:50:40.870 --> 00:50:43.570 align:middle line:84%
because if you scatter
off a particle here,

00:50:43.570 --> 00:50:46.870 align:middle line:84%
the photon will leave the
plasma without scattering again.

00:50:46.870 --> 00:50:49.150 align:middle line:84%
It's not like
radiation transport,

00:50:49.150 --> 00:50:52.500 align:middle line:84%
where there was a chance of the
scattered photon being absorbed.

00:50:52.500 --> 00:50:54.250 align:middle line:84%
Well, it could still
be absorbed, I guess.

00:50:54.250 --> 00:50:56.740 align:middle line:84%
But it's not going to
be scattered twice.

00:50:56.740 --> 00:50:58.600 align:middle line:84%
So we know if we see
a scattered photon

00:50:58.600 --> 00:51:00.190 align:middle line:84%
that it came from
the volume we think

00:51:00.190 --> 00:51:02.200 align:middle line:84%
it came from and then
straight out the plasma

00:51:02.200 --> 00:51:04.860 align:middle line:90%
without scattering again.

00:51:04.860 --> 00:51:07.120 align:middle line:90%
OK, any questions?

00:51:07.120 --> 00:51:10.170 align:middle line:84%
We're going to
relax B 0 equals 0.

00:51:10.170 --> 00:51:11.110 align:middle line:90%
Yes?

00:51:11.110 --> 00:51:13.550 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:51:13.550 --> 00:51:15.900 align:middle line:90%


00:51:15.900 --> 00:51:17.390 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yes.

00:51:17.390 --> 00:51:19.071 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Why is that?

00:51:19.071 --> 00:51:21.630 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: I think if you
take the nonclassical version,

00:51:21.630 --> 00:51:24.890 align:middle line:84%
there is a dependent
frequency there.

00:51:24.890 --> 00:51:27.200 align:middle line:84%
But in this treatment
here-- yeah,

00:51:27.200 --> 00:51:29.190 align:middle line:84%
again, this is very
classical treatment.

00:51:29.190 --> 00:51:30.950 align:middle line:84%
This is the classical
electron radius.

00:51:30.950 --> 00:51:33.320 align:middle line:84%
And we dropped
relativistic effects

00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:34.500 align:middle line:90%
to get this formula here.

00:51:34.500 --> 00:51:35.450 align:middle line:90%
So we don't know about quantum.

00:51:35.450 --> 00:51:36.710 align:middle line:90%
We don't know about those.

00:51:36.710 --> 00:51:37.997 align:middle line:90%
I suspect there is.

00:51:37.997 --> 00:51:40.580 align:middle line:84%
Thomson scattering turns into
Compton scattering and the limit

00:51:40.580 --> 00:51:41.730 align:middle line:90%
of high-energy photons.

00:51:41.730 --> 00:51:44.450 align:middle line:84%
So we're not going to
cover Compton scattering.

00:51:44.450 --> 00:51:47.477 align:middle line:84%
But this is technically
a limit of it.

00:51:47.477 --> 00:51:49.310 align:middle line:84%
So I guess I could
derive Compton scattering

00:51:49.310 --> 00:51:50.760 align:middle line:84%
and then get Thomson
scattering from it.

00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:52.843 align:middle line:84%
But this is hard enough
already that we don't need

00:51:52.843 --> 00:51:53.990 align:middle line:90%
to inflict that extra pain.

00:51:53.990 --> 00:51:55.010 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:51:55.010 --> 00:51:58.850 align:middle line:90%
OK, any other questions?

00:51:58.850 --> 00:51:59.350 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:51:59.350 --> 00:51:59.770 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:51:59.770 --> 00:52:00.270 align:middle line:90%
Go on.

00:52:00.270 --> 00:52:07.270 align:middle line:90%


00:52:07.270 --> 00:52:09.440 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:10.398 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

00:52:10.398 --> 00:52:12.440 align:middle line:84%
Almost all of your laser
light will pass directly

00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:13.830 align:middle line:90%
through the plasma.

00:52:13.830 --> 00:52:15.580 align:middle line:84%
And then, on the other
side of the plasma,

00:52:15.580 --> 00:52:17.538 align:middle line:84%
you have to work out what
happens to that beam.

00:52:17.538 --> 00:52:19.570 align:middle line:84%
If it reflects off the
wall of your chamber,

00:52:19.570 --> 00:52:23.708 align:middle line:84%
the reflected light will be
quite large, even from a Thomson

00:52:23.708 --> 00:52:26.250 align:middle line:84%
scattering perspective, because
the electron density of metal

00:52:26.250 --> 00:52:28.470 align:middle line:84%
is extremely high,
10 to the 30 or so.

00:52:28.470 --> 00:52:31.560 align:middle line:84%
And so that reflected light
will bounce a few times

00:52:31.560 --> 00:52:33.715 align:middle line:84%
and eventually end up in
your spectrometer, where

00:52:33.715 --> 00:52:35.590 align:middle line:84%
it will completely drown
out scattered light.

00:52:35.590 --> 00:52:37.350 align:middle line:84%
So instead, you
have to do something

00:52:37.350 --> 00:52:40.312 align:middle line:84%
with that unscattered light,
which is most of your light.

00:52:40.312 --> 00:52:42.270 align:middle line:84%
You have to have a beam
dump, which is normally

00:52:42.270 --> 00:52:44.430 align:middle line:84%
a very, very long
pipe with a very, very

00:52:44.430 --> 00:52:47.730 align:middle line:84%
dark box at the far end, which
you hope absorbs all the light

00:52:47.730 --> 00:52:49.060 align:middle line:90%
and stops the backscatter.

00:52:49.060 --> 00:52:50.610 align:middle line:84%
So, yeah, that's
a quite important

00:52:50.610 --> 00:52:52.500 align:middle line:90%
practical consideration.

00:52:52.500 --> 00:52:53.760 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:58.530 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So if the scattering
probability is so low,

00:52:58.530 --> 00:53:01.650 align:middle line:84%
how could you do time-resolved
Thomson scattering?

00:53:01.650 --> 00:53:05.680 align:middle line:84%
How could you get
sufficient [INAUDIBLE] time?

00:53:05.680 --> 00:53:06.180 align:middle line:90%
Because--

00:53:06.180 --> 00:53:07.460 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: A big laser.

00:53:07.460 --> 00:53:10.150 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: OK.

00:53:10.150 --> 00:53:10.775 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yes.

00:53:10.775 --> 00:53:15.420 align:middle line:90%


00:53:15.420 --> 00:53:16.980 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:53:16.980 --> 00:53:20.890 align:middle line:84%
Let's make life
more complicated.

00:53:20.890 --> 00:53:23.680 align:middle line:90%


00:53:23.680 --> 00:53:25.555 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:53:25.555 --> 00:53:28.030 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:53:28.030 --> 00:53:38.440 align:middle line:90%


00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:40.400 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: So you
could, in principle,

00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.590 align:middle line:90%
do something clever with it.

00:53:42.590 --> 00:53:45.460 align:middle line:84%
I've seen people do
Thomson where they also

00:53:45.460 --> 00:53:47.350 align:middle line:84%
look at the rotation
of the polarization

00:53:47.350 --> 00:53:48.923 align:middle line:84%
by magnetic fields
in the plasma.

00:53:48.923 --> 00:53:50.590 align:middle line:84%
So they've done Faraday
at the same time

00:53:50.590 --> 00:53:52.180 align:middle line:90%
with the same proton beam.

00:53:52.180 --> 00:53:55.620 align:middle line:84%
So there are some
things you can do.

00:53:55.620 --> 00:53:57.870 align:middle line:84%
In general, it's better to
have dedicated laser beams

00:53:57.870 --> 00:54:00.138 align:middle line:90%
with different angles.

00:54:00.138 --> 00:54:01.600 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:54:01.600 --> 00:54:03.410 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:54:03.410 --> 00:54:10.250 align:middle line:84%
So let's now say
we have 0 is not 0.

00:54:10.250 --> 00:54:13.210 align:middle line:90%


00:54:13.210 --> 00:54:17.110 align:middle line:84%
Our position at
time t prime is now

00:54:17.110 --> 00:54:25.140 align:middle line:84%
equal to wherever we started
at at time 0 plus velocity t

00:54:25.140 --> 00:54:27.360 align:middle line:90%
prime later.

00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.720 align:middle line:84%
And this means that our
retarded time is now

00:54:30.720 --> 00:54:41.410 align:middle line:84%
equal to t minus R minus
s dot r over c, like this.

00:54:41.410 --> 00:54:45.770 align:middle line:84%
By the way, we've assumed at
this point this particle is just

00:54:45.770 --> 00:54:48.750 align:middle line:90%
going in a straight line.

00:54:48.750 --> 00:54:52.660 align:middle line:84%
So this is before the electric
field gets here and mucks things

00:54:52.660 --> 00:54:53.218 align:middle line:90%
up--

00:54:53.218 --> 00:54:54.760 align:middle line:84%
just going to let
this particle move.

00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:57.510 align:middle line:90%


00:54:57.510 --> 00:55:01.370 align:middle line:84%
Now let me see what
I'm saying here.

00:55:01.370 --> 00:55:05.330 align:middle line:90%
No, that's not true.

00:55:05.330 --> 00:55:07.760 align:middle line:84%
This particle is going
roughly in a straight line,

00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:10.760 align:middle line:84%
but the electric field
is causing it to deviate

00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:12.600 align:middle line:90%
only a very small amount here.

00:55:12.600 --> 00:55:19.000 align:middle line:84%
So there's some small deviation
delta v from the incident

00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:20.050 align:middle line:90%
electric field.

00:55:20.050 --> 00:55:25.283 align:middle line:84%
But that delta v is much, much
smaller than this velocity here.

00:55:25.283 --> 00:55:27.450 align:middle line:84%
So the particle is roughly
going in a straight line,

00:55:27.450 --> 00:55:30.750 align:middle line:84%
and it's oscillating
ever so slightly.

00:55:30.750 --> 00:55:31.250 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:55:31.250 --> 00:55:34.140 align:middle line:90%


00:55:34.140 --> 00:55:36.083 align:middle line:84%
Now, I have a load
of algebra here,

00:55:36.083 --> 00:55:38.500 align:middle line:84%
which I worked out because I
couldn't find it in the book.

00:55:38.500 --> 00:55:40.080 align:middle line:84%
But I'm not going
to go through it.

00:55:40.080 --> 00:55:42.660 align:middle line:84%
You can have the joy
of doing it yourself.

00:55:42.660 --> 00:55:45.910 align:middle line:90%
You can rewrite this equation.

00:55:45.910 --> 00:55:48.360 align:middle line:84%
And this is actually
much less trivial

00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:56.360 align:middle line:84%
than it looks as t minus
R minus s dot r of 0.

00:55:56.360 --> 00:56:00.080 align:middle line:84%
We're taking this expression for
r, substituting it into here.

00:56:00.080 --> 00:56:01.970 align:middle line:90%
All of this is divided by c.

00:56:01.970 --> 00:56:04.810 align:middle line:90%


00:56:04.810 --> 00:56:12.690 align:middle line:84%
And this whole thing is divided
by 1 minus s hat dot beta.

00:56:12.690 --> 00:56:17.380 align:middle line:90%


00:56:17.380 --> 00:56:22.270 align:middle line:84%
This term down here
is a Doppler shift.

00:56:22.270 --> 00:56:25.000 align:middle line:84%
We'll see another one of
those occur in a moment.

00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:34.070 align:middle line:90%


00:56:34.070 --> 00:56:41.210 align:middle line:84%
So now we want to calculate the
phase factor inside the cosine

00:56:41.210 --> 00:56:44.720 align:middle line:84%
that we had for our
incident electric field.

00:56:44.720 --> 00:56:48.650 align:middle line:84%
Remember, previously,
this was Ki dot

00:56:48.650 --> 00:56:57.310 align:middle line:84%
r of t prime minus
omega i of t prime.

00:56:57.310 --> 00:56:59.115 align:middle line:84%
And we said that this
was roughly constant

00:56:59.115 --> 00:57:00.490 align:middle line:84%
because the particle
didn't move.

00:57:00.490 --> 00:57:01.823 align:middle line:90%
Well, now the particle's moving.

00:57:01.823 --> 00:57:03.520 align:middle line:90%
So it's not constant anymore.

00:57:03.520 --> 00:57:12.770 align:middle line:84%
This factor becomes
equal to Ki dot r of 0

00:57:12.770 --> 00:57:24.200 align:middle line:84%
plus v prime of K
dot v minus omega i.

00:57:24.200 --> 00:57:26.870 align:middle line:84%
This is from substituting
this into here.

00:57:26.870 --> 00:57:29.910 align:middle line:90%


00:57:29.910 --> 00:57:31.565 align:middle line:90%
I think that should be a Ki.

00:57:31.565 --> 00:57:37.353 align:middle line:90%


00:57:37.353 --> 00:57:38.520 align:middle line:90%
I'm going to put it as a Ki.

00:57:38.520 --> 00:57:40.320 align:middle line:84%
It doesn't have a
subscript for my notes--

00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:41.195 align:middle line:90%
definitely a mistake.

00:57:41.195 --> 00:57:47.940 align:middle line:90%


00:57:47.940 --> 00:57:50.080 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:57:50.080 --> 00:57:53.590 align:middle line:84%
And then we can
rewrite this altogether

00:57:53.590 --> 00:58:01.205 align:middle line:84%
as Ks R. This is just some phase
that doesn't change in time,

00:58:01.205 --> 00:58:03.580 align:middle line:84%
which is just due to the fact
that the scattered wave has

00:58:03.580 --> 00:58:06.620 align:middle line:84%
some distance to go to
get to our detector.

00:58:06.620 --> 00:58:09.205 align:middle line:84%
So this is just another
constant phase--

00:58:09.205 --> 00:58:14.890 align:middle line:90%


00:58:14.890 --> 00:58:19.000 align:middle line:84%
minus a term that looks
like scattered frequency,

00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.090 align:middle line:84%
omega s times t minus
a term that looks

00:58:22.090 --> 00:58:33.010 align:middle line:90%
like Ks minus Ki dot r of 0.

00:58:33.010 --> 00:58:35.240 align:middle line:84%
And I've introduced
several new terms here.

00:58:35.240 --> 00:58:37.552 align:middle line:90%
One of them is this omega s.

00:58:37.552 --> 00:58:40.330 align:middle line:90%


00:58:40.330 --> 00:58:42.730 align:middle line:84%
And this is the frequency
of the scattered wave

00:58:42.730 --> 00:58:44.140 align:middle line:90%
which is seen at the observer.

00:58:44.140 --> 00:58:46.600 align:middle line:84%
So by switching
from t prime to t,

00:58:46.600 --> 00:58:49.480 align:middle line:84%
I've had to take into
account this change in time.

00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:52.670 align:middle line:84%
And the Doppler shift
starts coming in here.

00:58:52.670 --> 00:58:54.730 align:middle line:84%
So this scattered
frequency looks

00:58:54.730 --> 00:59:04.046 align:middle line:84%
like 1 minus i hat dot
beta over 1 minus s hat

00:59:04.046 --> 00:59:08.900 align:middle line:90%
dot beta times by omega i.

00:59:08.900 --> 00:59:12.310 align:middle line:84%
This is a scattered frequency,
and it's interesting

00:59:12.310 --> 00:59:15.490 align:middle line:84%
because it's got two
Doppler shifts inside it.

00:59:15.490 --> 00:59:19.270 align:middle line:84%
It's got a Doppler
shift due to the light

00:59:19.270 --> 00:59:24.320 align:middle line:84%
coming in being Doppler shifted
by this particle's motion.

00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:27.440 align:middle line:84%
So the particle sees a different
frequency of the incoming light,

00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.530 align:middle line:84%
and then the particle
scatters that incoming light

00:59:30.530 --> 00:59:32.310 align:middle line:90%
in some other direction.

00:59:32.310 --> 00:59:36.390 align:middle line:84%
And that light is Doppler
shifted again to the observer.

00:59:36.390 --> 00:59:41.060 align:middle line:84%
So we get two Doppler
shift factors here.

00:59:41.060 --> 00:59:46.150 align:middle line:84%
And the other new term I
introduced is this Ks here.

00:59:46.150 --> 00:59:49.780 align:middle line:84%
And this is simply from
the dispersion relationship

00:59:49.780 --> 00:59:52.910 align:middle line:84%
for electromagnetic
radiation in a vacuum.

00:59:52.910 --> 00:59:58.420 align:middle line:84%
So it's omega equals tK, and
this is going in the s hat

00:59:58.420 --> 01:00:01.110 align:middle line:90%
direction here.

01:00:01.110 --> 01:00:05.850 align:middle line:84%
So if you put this equation
into this equation,

01:00:05.850 --> 01:00:07.230 align:middle line:84%
turn through all
the mathematics,

01:00:07.230 --> 01:00:09.390 align:middle line:84%
you find out you get
a new phase term.

01:00:09.390 --> 01:00:14.160 align:middle line:84%
In a moment, I'll explain
what's going on here.

01:00:14.160 --> 01:00:15.870 align:middle line:90%
OK, any questions on that?

01:00:15.870 --> 01:00:47.340 align:middle line:90%


01:00:47.340 --> 01:00:49.610 align:middle line:84%
This is the phase
factor inside the cosine

01:00:49.610 --> 01:00:53.420 align:middle line:90%
for our scattered radiation.

01:00:53.420 --> 01:00:55.710 align:middle line:84%
Previously, we just
had this term here.

01:00:55.710 --> 01:00:58.460 align:middle line:84%
So our scattered radiation
just looked like a plane wave

01:00:58.460 --> 01:01:05.040 align:middle line:84%
with the same wavelength and
frequency as the incoming wave.

01:01:05.040 --> 01:01:08.840 align:middle line:84%
But now it's oscillating
at the frequency

01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:11.870 align:middle line:84%
of the scattered wave, which
it should do because that's

01:01:11.870 --> 01:01:12.870 align:middle line:90%
how we've defined it.

01:01:12.870 --> 01:01:15.410 align:middle line:84%
But interestingly, we've
got this extra phase

01:01:15.410 --> 01:01:18.330 align:middle line:84%
term that comes from the
difference between these two.

01:01:18.330 --> 01:01:23.580 align:middle line:84%
So we can now define
two more variables

01:01:23.580 --> 01:01:25.030 align:middle line:90%
which don't have subscripts.

01:01:25.030 --> 01:01:32.310 align:middle line:84%
So this is K, and this is simply
equal to Ks minus Ki, which

01:01:32.310 --> 01:01:33.330 align:middle line:90%
is this term here.

01:01:33.330 --> 01:01:37.270 align:middle line:90%


01:01:37.270 --> 01:01:39.810 align:middle line:84%
And so it looks like a
plane wave which is actually

01:01:39.810 --> 01:01:43.338 align:middle line:84%
moving with a wave
number K because we've

01:01:43.338 --> 01:01:44.880 align:middle line:84%
got the difference
between these two.

01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.010 align:middle line:84%
And we can also
define a frequency,

01:01:47.010 --> 01:01:49.650 align:middle line:84%
omega with no
subscript, which is

01:01:49.650 --> 01:01:53.760 align:middle line:84%
equal to the difference
between omega s and omega i.

01:01:53.760 --> 01:02:00.757 align:middle line:84%
And this is simply K dotted with
v. So this is the Doppler shift.

01:02:00.757 --> 01:02:03.090 align:middle line:84%
This is the shift in frequency
between the incident wave

01:02:03.090 --> 01:02:04.740 align:middle line:84%
and the scattered
wave-- that's omega.

01:02:04.740 --> 01:02:06.780 align:middle line:84%
And that Doppler
shift, as we expect,

01:02:06.780 --> 01:02:12.090 align:middle line:84%
is the wave number, this
difference wave number K,

01:02:12.090 --> 01:02:13.170 align:middle line:90%
dotted into the velocity.

01:02:13.170 --> 01:02:16.390 align:middle line:84%
This is what we normally expect
for the Doppler shift here.

01:02:16.390 --> 01:02:18.210 align:middle line:84%
What's interesting
about these equations

01:02:18.210 --> 01:02:20.260 align:middle line:90%
is this is a vector equation.

01:02:20.260 --> 01:02:27.650 align:middle line:84%
And it implies that we have
some particle with velocity v,

01:02:27.650 --> 01:02:29.010 align:middle line:90%
like this.

01:02:29.010 --> 01:02:34.500 align:middle line:84%
We have some input wave of
light, our probing laser

01:02:34.500 --> 01:02:38.070 align:middle line:84%
beam, that crosses that
particle in this direction.

01:02:38.070 --> 01:02:44.130 align:middle line:84%
And we observe the scattered
light at some other point, Ks,

01:02:44.130 --> 01:02:45.390 align:middle line:90%
like this.

01:02:45.390 --> 01:02:48.270 align:middle line:84%
Then it appears that what
we're actually measuring

01:02:48.270 --> 01:02:53.350 align:middle line:84%
are the properties of
some wave that goes from--

01:02:53.350 --> 01:02:57.010 align:middle line:84%
well, has this wave
number K, which

01:02:57.010 --> 01:02:59.630 align:middle line:84%
is the difference between
these two wave vectors here,

01:02:59.630 --> 01:03:03.080 align:middle line:84%
and it has some
frequency, omega,

01:03:03.080 --> 01:03:06.380 align:middle line:90%
which is that K dot v here.

01:03:06.380 --> 01:03:08.230 align:middle line:84%
So in reality, what
we're doing when

01:03:08.230 --> 01:03:12.580 align:middle line:84%
we measure with our spectrometer
at omega s and at Ks is

01:03:12.580 --> 01:03:14.740 align:middle line:84%
we're measuring the
properties of this wave, which

01:03:14.740 --> 01:03:17.440 align:middle line:84%
is transferring us from
the incident radiation

01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:18.710 align:middle line:90%
to the scattered radiation.

01:03:18.710 --> 01:03:22.270 align:middle line:84%
So this looks an awful lot like
an equation for the conservation

01:03:22.270 --> 01:03:28.140 align:middle line:90%
of momentum and energy.

01:03:28.140 --> 01:03:31.325 align:middle line:90%


01:03:31.325 --> 01:03:36.810 align:middle line:84%
If I just times these by h bar
and think about them as photons,

01:03:36.810 --> 01:03:38.280 align:middle line:90%
you can see that straight away.

01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:44.440 align:middle line:90%


01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:45.610 align:middle line:90%
This is the mathematics.

01:03:45.610 --> 01:03:48.430 align:middle line:84%
We'll get to an interpretation
of it quite soon.

01:03:48.430 --> 01:03:50.620 align:middle line:90%
Hold on if you're struggling.

01:03:50.620 --> 01:03:51.820 align:middle line:90%
We will get there.

01:03:51.820 --> 01:03:53.530 align:middle line:84%
Any questions on the
mathematics so far?

01:03:53.530 --> 01:04:03.510 align:middle line:90%


01:04:03.510 --> 01:04:04.010 align:middle line:90%
OK.

01:04:04.010 --> 01:04:36.710 align:middle line:90%


01:04:36.710 --> 01:04:39.560 align:middle line:84%
So a couple of things to say
about these new vectors we

01:04:39.560 --> 01:04:44.090 align:middle line:84%
introduced-- the size of
this new vector K, which

01:04:44.090 --> 01:04:47.420 align:middle line:84%
is simply equal, again, to
the size of the difference

01:04:47.420 --> 01:04:56.770 align:middle line:84%
between these two vectors, is
equal to Ks squared plus Ki

01:04:56.770 --> 01:05:03.970 align:middle line:84%
squared minus 2 Ki
Ks cosine of theta

01:05:03.970 --> 01:05:09.120 align:middle line:84%
to the half, where theta is
the angle between these two.

01:05:09.120 --> 01:05:12.160 align:middle line:84%
So this is just
vector algebra here.

01:05:12.160 --> 01:05:17.190 align:middle line:84%
Now, for nonrelativistic
particles,

01:05:17.190 --> 01:05:20.880 align:middle line:84%
we find that the
incident light is

01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:24.600 align:middle line:84%
going to have a frequency very
similar to the scattered light.

01:05:24.600 --> 01:05:27.420 align:middle line:84%
And so these two wave
numbers will also

01:05:27.420 --> 01:05:29.350 align:middle line:90%
be similar in magnitude here.

01:05:29.350 --> 01:05:31.080 align:middle line:84%
So let me write that
more explicitly.

01:05:31.080 --> 01:05:34.080 align:middle line:84%
For nonrelativistic systems,
the Doppler shift is small.

01:05:34.080 --> 01:05:41.330 align:middle line:84%
So omega equals K dot v is much,
much less than omega s or omega

01:05:41.330 --> 01:05:42.210 align:middle line:90%
i.

01:05:42.210 --> 01:05:46.020 align:middle line:84%
That means omega s
is roughly omega i.

01:05:46.020 --> 01:05:49.080 align:middle line:84%
We haven't seen a significant
Doppler shift here.

01:05:49.080 --> 01:05:52.560 align:middle line:84%
And that means that the
size of these two K vectors,

01:05:52.560 --> 01:05:57.760 align:middle line:84%
Ks, is roughly equal to
the size of Ki, like this.

01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:00.250 align:middle line:84%
And if we put that
into this equation,

01:06:00.250 --> 01:06:09.360 align:middle line:84%
then we find that the size of K
is roughly equal to 2 times Ki

01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:11.850 align:middle line:90%
sine theta upon 2.

01:06:11.850 --> 01:06:16.060 align:middle line:90%


01:06:16.060 --> 01:06:23.820 align:middle line:84%
This is a very useful formula
to remember because it relates

01:06:23.820 --> 01:06:26.400 align:middle line:84%
the scattering angle that
we're observing with respect

01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:32.010 align:middle line:84%
to the incident laser beam and
the wavelength of the incident

01:06:32.010 --> 01:06:34.140 align:middle line:84%
laser beam to the
wavelength of the mode

01:06:34.140 --> 01:06:35.340 align:middle line:90%
that we're scattering on.

01:06:35.340 --> 01:06:38.220 align:middle line:84%
And we'll get back to what
this mode with scattering off

01:06:38.220 --> 01:06:40.870 align:middle line:90%
means physically in a moment.

01:06:40.870 --> 01:06:43.770 align:middle line:84%
Let's make it clear that
this is sine of theta

01:06:43.770 --> 01:06:46.320 align:middle line:90%
upon 2 within the brackets here.

01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:49.080 align:middle line:90%


01:06:49.080 --> 01:06:52.040 align:middle line:84%
And the other thing to note
is that we actually choose

01:06:52.040 --> 01:06:53.390 align:middle line:90%
several of these things, right?

01:06:53.390 --> 01:06:57.770 align:middle line:84%
We choose our initial
laser frequency.

01:06:57.770 --> 01:07:02.060 align:middle line:84%
And we choose what direction
our laser beam goes in.

01:07:02.060 --> 01:07:05.293 align:middle line:84%
And we choose what direction
the light scatterers in.

01:07:05.293 --> 01:07:06.960 align:middle line:84%
You might say, no,
we don't choose that.

01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:07.950 align:middle line:90%
It scatters everywhere.

01:07:07.950 --> 01:07:09.680 align:middle line:90%
We choose which light to see.

01:07:09.680 --> 01:07:11.430 align:middle line:84%
We choose where to
place our spectrometer.

01:07:11.430 --> 01:07:13.950 align:middle line:90%
So we set Ks, right?

01:07:13.950 --> 01:07:19.400 align:middle line:84%
So all of these three
things, we choose these.

01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:23.120 align:middle line:90%


01:07:23.120 --> 01:07:29.480 align:middle line:84%
Again, I've got some plasma with
some laser going through it,

01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:38.570 align:middle line:84%
going along Ki, and I set up
my spectrometer to look at Ks.

01:07:38.570 --> 01:07:40.655 align:middle line:84%
And I'll redraw these so
they're the same length.

01:07:40.655 --> 01:07:46.113 align:middle line:90%


01:07:46.113 --> 01:07:48.030 align:middle line:84%
I have controlled most
of the parameters here.

01:07:48.030 --> 01:07:50.360 align:middle line:84%
And so that means
that because I've

01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:53.880 align:middle line:84%
chosen these two things, when
I'm measuring my spectrum,

01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:56.090 align:middle line:84%
I know that I'm measuring
modes, which, again,

01:07:56.090 --> 01:07:58.700 align:middle line:90%
correspond to this K here.

01:07:58.700 --> 01:08:02.070 align:middle line:90%


01:08:02.070 --> 01:08:13.930 align:middle line:84%
So just to write that again, if
we launch a wave with omega i,

01:08:13.930 --> 01:08:21.979 align:middle line:84%
Ki, and we detect a
wave being scattered

01:08:21.979 --> 01:08:27.170 align:middle line:84%
at a certain frequency in
a certain direction here,

01:08:27.170 --> 01:08:36.120 align:middle line:84%
then this implies
that some wave omega

01:08:36.120 --> 01:08:47.060 align:middle line:84%
K, where omega is omega s minus
omega i, and K is Ks minus Ki,

01:08:47.060 --> 01:08:50.880 align:middle line:90%
implies that this wave exists.

01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:53.130 align:middle line:84%
But there is something
within the plasma that

01:08:53.130 --> 01:08:56.220 align:middle line:84%
is capable of taking away
or adding the momentum

01:08:56.220 --> 01:08:58.649 align:middle line:84%
and the energy we
need in order to be

01:08:58.649 --> 01:09:02.229 align:middle line:90%
able to see this mode here.

01:09:02.229 --> 01:09:10.340 align:middle line:84%
So, for example, if
we have a spectrum

01:09:10.340 --> 01:09:12.229 align:middle line:90%
on our spectrometer here--

01:09:12.229 --> 01:09:16.880 align:middle line:84%
and this is in units of
omega, omega s minus omega i,

01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:18.380 align:middle line:84%
so I'm just showing
you the shift--

01:09:18.380 --> 01:09:22.160 align:middle line:84%
then our incident
laser is going to be

01:09:22.160 --> 01:09:25.399 align:middle line:90%
at omega i, which is just 0.

01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:27.407 align:middle line:84%
So if we accidentally
reflect this laser beam

01:09:27.407 --> 01:09:29.990 align:middle line:84%
off the metal inside the chamber
and catch the scattered light

01:09:29.990 --> 01:09:35.149 align:middle line:84%
on our spectrometer, we will
see it at omega i unshifted,

01:09:35.149 --> 01:09:36.800 align:middle line:90%
like that.

01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:41.260 align:middle line:84%
If we now put a
detector at 10 degrees,

01:09:41.260 --> 01:09:45.250 align:middle line:84%
we might, for example,
see scattering here.

01:09:45.250 --> 01:09:50.450 align:middle line:84%
And this scattering
here, omega equals

01:09:50.450 --> 01:10:01.130 align:middle line:84%
K dot v, equals 2 Ki
sine theta over 2 v,

01:10:01.130 --> 01:10:04.610 align:middle line:84%
will be proportional not only
to the velocity of the particle

01:10:04.610 --> 01:10:06.320 align:middle line:84%
that we scattered
off, but it will also

01:10:06.320 --> 01:10:07.710 align:middle line:90%
be related to the angle.

01:10:07.710 --> 01:10:16.110 align:middle line:84%
So now if we put another
detector at a different angle,

01:10:16.110 --> 01:10:19.760 align:middle line:84%
we will see an omega which is
larger because the angle is

01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:20.630 align:middle line:90%
larger as well.

01:10:20.630 --> 01:10:27.780 align:middle line:90%


01:10:27.780 --> 01:10:29.390 align:middle line:84%
So what exactly are
we scattering off?

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Well, in this picture here,
what we've drawn above,

01:10:33.572 --> 01:10:36.030 align:middle line:84%
we're talking about something
called incoherent scattering.

01:10:36.030 --> 01:10:38.610 align:middle line:84%
And we'll get back to
what this means later on.

01:10:38.610 --> 01:10:41.730 align:middle line:84%
But incoherent scattering,
we scatter off a particle.

01:10:41.730 --> 01:10:44.202 align:middle line:90%


01:10:44.202 --> 01:10:45.410 align:middle line:90%
That's what we've drawn here.

01:10:45.410 --> 01:10:46.490 align:middle line:90%
There's some particle.

01:10:46.490 --> 01:10:52.460 align:middle line:84%
And that particle has a velocity
v. And that v causes a shift,

01:10:52.460 --> 01:10:55.400 align:middle line:90%
omega equals K dot v.

01:10:55.400 --> 01:10:58.940 align:middle line:84%
So the particle is responsible
for balancing this momentum

01:10:58.940 --> 01:11:00.170 align:middle line:90%
and energy equation.

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It is the K, and it is
effectively the omega

01:11:03.350 --> 01:11:05.380 align:middle line:90%
here as well.

01:11:05.380 --> 01:11:07.800 align:middle line:84%
There's also another regime
of Thomson scattering, though,

01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:11.520 align:middle line:84%
and this is called coherent
Thomson scattering.

01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:17.050 align:middle line:84%
And in coherent scattering, we
scatter off waves in the plasma.

01:11:17.050 --> 01:11:21.500 align:middle line:84%
And waves also have
omega and K. And they

01:11:21.500 --> 01:11:25.730 align:middle line:84%
have some distribution which
links these-- for example, omega

01:11:25.730 --> 01:11:29.460 align:middle line:90%
equals Cs K.

01:11:29.460 --> 01:11:40.830 align:middle line:84%
This Cs, the sound speed, square
root of ZTe plus Ti upon Mi

01:11:40.830 --> 01:11:46.100 align:middle line:84%
means that if we now measure
a shift on our spectrometer,

01:11:46.100 --> 01:11:49.730 align:middle line:84%
we can interpret that omega
as being due to, for example,

01:11:49.730 --> 01:11:50.870 align:middle line:90%
this sound wave.

01:11:50.870 --> 01:11:53.240 align:middle line:84%
And from the shift
that we see, we

01:11:53.240 --> 01:11:55.410 align:middle line:84%
can now infer the
plasma temperature.

01:11:55.410 --> 01:11:57.260 align:middle line:84%
So this very roughly
is giving you

01:11:57.260 --> 01:11:59.880 align:middle line:84%
an idea of how we will
use coherent waves.

01:11:59.880 --> 01:12:02.940 align:middle line:84%
It will make this very,
very mathematical.

01:12:02.940 --> 01:12:05.090 align:middle line:84%
OK, there's a lot
going on there.

01:12:05.090 --> 01:12:07.910 align:middle line:90%
Question?

01:12:07.910 --> 01:12:09.188 align:middle line:90%
Yes?

01:12:09.188 --> 01:12:15.440 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: How-- you
said that [INAUDIBLE].

01:12:15.440 --> 01:12:17.750 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yes.

01:12:17.750 --> 01:12:19.060 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: How [INAUDIBLE]?

01:12:19.060 --> 01:12:23.183 align:middle line:90%


01:12:23.183 --> 01:12:24.350 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yeah, absolutely.

01:12:24.350 --> 01:12:25.880 align:middle line:90%
So there's your background.

01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:27.740 align:middle line:84%
You've got bremsstrahlung,
and you've got line emission,

01:12:27.740 --> 01:12:28.460 align:middle line:90%
and you've got synchrotron.

01:12:28.460 --> 01:12:29.752 align:middle line:90%
You've got all sorts of things.

01:12:29.752 --> 01:12:33.530 align:middle line:84%
You pick a probe, as in you
pick a laser with an incident

01:12:33.530 --> 01:12:37.010 align:middle line:84%
frequency which is not near
any other strong features

01:12:37.010 --> 01:12:37.910 align:middle line:90%
in your plasma.

01:12:37.910 --> 01:12:39.600 align:middle line:84%
Bremsstrahlung is
a nice background.

01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:41.840 align:middle line:90%
So if you have bremsstrahlung--

01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.600 align:middle line:90%
this is wavelength here.

01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:47.570 align:middle line:84%
If you have bremsstrahlung, and
you're doing Thomson scattering,

01:12:47.570 --> 01:12:49.700 align:middle line:84%
you should see a very
clear peak from it.

01:12:49.700 --> 01:12:52.993 align:middle line:84%
If you've got bremsstrahlung,
and you've got lots of lines,

01:12:52.993 --> 01:12:54.410 align:middle line:84%
then it is a bit
difficult to tell

01:12:54.410 --> 01:12:57.448 align:middle line:84%
the difference between the lines
and your Thomson scattering.

01:12:57.448 --> 01:12:59.240 align:middle line:84%
So you want to pick
your Thomson scattering

01:12:59.240 --> 01:13:01.848 align:middle line:84%
probe so it's not close to
any other features there.

01:13:01.848 --> 01:13:03.890 align:middle line:84%
Then it's usually pretty
clear because it's like,

01:13:03.890 --> 01:13:05.012 align:middle line:90%
what else could it be?

01:13:05.012 --> 01:13:06.470 align:middle line:84%
If we see scattered
light there, we

01:13:06.470 --> 01:13:07.928 align:middle line:84%
know there aren't
any atomic lines.

01:13:07.928 --> 01:13:09.396 align:middle line:90%
So it is likely [INAUDIBLE].

01:13:09.396 --> 01:13:14.330 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
very common.

01:13:14.330 --> 01:13:16.300 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yes.

01:13:16.300 --> 01:13:16.800 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:18.100 align:middle line:90%
There are also advantages.

01:13:18.100 --> 01:13:19.558 align:middle line:84%
For example, a lot
of the radiation

01:13:19.558 --> 01:13:22.110 align:middle line:84%
that's emitted from the
plasma is unpolarized,

01:13:22.110 --> 01:13:24.600 align:middle line:84%
whereas the Thomson scattering
radiation is polarized.

01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:27.030 align:middle line:84%
And so we can use a
polarizer to help reject some

01:13:27.030 --> 01:13:28.410 align:middle line:90%
of that unpolarized light--

01:13:28.410 --> 01:13:29.320 align:middle line:90%
half of it.

01:13:29.320 --> 01:13:31.482 align:middle line:84%
So there are various
techniques you can do.

01:13:31.482 --> 01:13:33.940 align:middle line:84%
The Thomson scattering probe
is usually very short in time.

01:13:33.940 --> 01:13:35.610 align:middle line:84%
So if you have a
gated camera, you only

01:13:35.610 --> 01:13:37.450 align:middle line:84%
collect light while
the probe is active.

01:13:37.450 --> 01:13:39.492 align:middle line:84%
So you don't collect so
much of the self-emission

01:13:39.492 --> 01:13:42.180 align:middle line:84%
from the rest of the time
that the plasma is there.

01:13:42.180 --> 01:13:44.322 align:middle line:84%
But it is challenging to
get above the background.

01:13:44.322 --> 01:13:46.530 align:middle line:84%
And, again, this is the
answer to Lansing's question.

01:13:46.530 --> 01:13:47.700 align:middle line:90%
You need a big laser.

01:13:47.700 --> 01:13:49.705 align:middle line:84%
You need a lot of
scattered light.

01:13:49.705 --> 01:13:50.205 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:13:50.205 --> 01:13:54.010 align:middle line:90%


01:13:54.010 --> 01:13:57.460 align:middle line:90%
Joules in nanoseconds?

01:13:57.460 --> 01:13:58.790 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:13:58.790 --> 01:14:00.140 align:middle line:90%
That's really big.

01:14:00.140 --> 01:14:02.300 align:middle line:90%
[LAUGHS] Yeah.

01:14:02.300 --> 01:14:05.500 align:middle line:90%


01:14:05.500 --> 01:14:08.215 align:middle line:84%
Yeah, for example, on
the [INAUDIBLE] tokamak,

01:14:08.215 --> 01:14:10.840 align:middle line:84%
where they're trying to do this
in a sort of time-resolved way,

01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:13.840 align:middle line:84%
they have a huge bank of
Nd:YAG lasers that they trigger

01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:15.950 align:middle line:84%
sequentially and send
down the same beams.

01:14:15.950 --> 01:14:17.590 align:middle line:84%
They're like, pulse, pulse,
pulse, pulse, pulse, and then

01:14:17.590 --> 01:14:19.870 align:middle line:84%
they have a load of
spectrometers which are timed

01:14:19.870 --> 01:14:20.953 align:middle line:90%
with those pulses as well.

01:14:20.953 --> 01:14:22.953 align:middle line:84%
And so then they're doing
Thomson scattering at,

01:14:22.953 --> 01:14:25.540 align:middle line:84%
like, I think, 100 kilohertz
or something like that using

01:14:25.540 --> 01:14:26.830 align:middle line:90%
the staggered bank of lasers.

01:14:26.830 --> 01:14:28.510 align:middle line:84%
In my experiments, I
can't get the laser

01:14:28.510 --> 01:14:31.810 align:middle line:84%
to go twice during a microsecond
because you can't easily

01:14:31.810 --> 01:14:34.490 align:middle line:84%
get, like, a joule at a
megahertz from a laser.

01:14:34.490 --> 01:14:35.830 align:middle line:90%
It's terrifying.

01:14:35.830 --> 01:14:38.210 align:middle line:90%
So then we just have one time.

01:14:38.210 --> 01:14:40.062 align:middle line:84%
And then we have to
gate around that time

01:14:40.062 --> 01:14:42.520 align:middle line:84%
and make sure that we only
collect Thomson scattering light

01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:43.853 align:middle line:90%
during the time the laser is on.

01:14:43.853 --> 01:14:47.850 align:middle line:90%


01:14:47.850 --> 01:14:50.470 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

01:14:50.470 --> 01:14:57.100 align:middle line:90%


01:14:57.100 --> 01:14:59.100 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: Yeah, so the
technique I talked about

01:14:59.100 --> 01:15:01.650 align:middle line:84%
was the low-temperature
plasmas with the CO2.

01:15:01.650 --> 01:15:03.410 align:middle line:84%
For example, they
had a pulsed system.

01:15:03.410 --> 01:15:05.160 align:middle line:84%
So they were constantly
making the plasma.

01:15:05.160 --> 01:15:08.760 align:middle line:84%
What they did is they had the
laser synchronized with that--

01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:12.720 align:middle line:84%
so at whatever rep rate the
plasma was being produced--

01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:13.595 align:middle line:90%
and they integrated.

01:15:13.595 --> 01:15:14.970 align:middle line:84%
So they just added
up the photons

01:15:14.970 --> 01:15:16.710 align:middle line:84%
from every single
experiment until they

01:15:16.710 --> 01:15:18.660 align:middle line:84%
had enough photons to
get a good spectrum

01:15:18.660 --> 01:15:21.870 align:middle line:84%
because the trouble is the
density is so low there

01:15:21.870 --> 01:15:24.780 align:middle line:84%
that just from a single
shot, you don't really

01:15:24.780 --> 01:15:26.610 align:middle line:90%
get very much scattered light.

01:15:26.610 --> 01:15:29.133 align:middle line:84%
But if you do it for
hours at a kilohertz,

01:15:29.133 --> 01:15:31.800 align:middle line:84%
you start to get enough photons
that you build up your spectrum.

01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:34.290 align:middle line:84%
For that to work, you have to
be really sure your plasma is

01:15:34.290 --> 01:15:35.820 align:middle line:90%
the same every time.

01:15:35.820 --> 01:15:38.360 align:middle line:84%
And they were, or they felt
that they were sure that it

01:15:38.360 --> 01:15:39.360 align:middle line:90%
was the same every time.

01:15:39.360 --> 01:15:40.943 align:middle line:84%
Obviously, if your
plasma is changing,

01:15:40.943 --> 01:15:43.410 align:middle line:84%
if we're dealing with a
very unstable system where

01:15:43.410 --> 01:15:46.060 align:middle line:84%
the plasma is moving around,
and then the Thomson scattering

01:15:46.060 --> 01:15:48.060 align:middle line:84%
probe will be sampling a
different bit of plasma

01:15:48.060 --> 01:15:49.410 align:middle line:84%
every time, that's
not really reasonable.

01:15:49.410 --> 01:15:51.540 align:middle line:84%
But if you've got a
nice homogeneous plasma,

01:15:51.540 --> 01:15:52.563 align:middle line:90%
you've got it.

01:15:52.563 --> 01:15:54.480 align:middle line:84%
So that's a nice situation
to be in, actually,

01:15:54.480 --> 01:15:57.040 align:middle line:84%
because if you want
better signal-to-noise,

01:15:57.040 --> 01:15:59.617 align:middle line:84%
you can just run the system
for, like, another day.

01:15:59.617 --> 01:16:02.200 align:middle line:84%
Of course, your signal-to-noise
usually goes to square root n.

01:16:02.200 --> 01:16:03.760 align:middle line:90%
So you get diminishing returns.

01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:05.640 align:middle line:90%
But yeah.

01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:09.000 align:middle line:90%