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JACK HARE: Today, we are
going to be discussing

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neutral particle diagnostics.

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So the fact of the matter
is, we have some plasma,

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like a tokamak, and it
has some block surfaces.

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And we want to know what's
going on inside the core,

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because this is where
the fusion is happening.

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In particular, we want to
know what the distribution

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function of the ions is.

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It's probably
Maxwellian-ish, but the "ish"

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is the interesting bit.

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There may be some lovely
tails of particles here,

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and those are the ones
that might be doing

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most of our fusion reactions.

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So we'd like to
be able to measure

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this distribution
function f of i.

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The trouble is, the
particles in the core

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are hopefully very
well-confined.

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If they're not confined, we
haven't done a very good job.

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So we can't exactly wait for
them to wander out and see

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what they're up to.

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And so we need some technique of
measuring this core distribution

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function f of i Vi.

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Now, we have some ideas based
on some of the other diagnostics

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we've looked at already.

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For example, we could use
electron cyclotron emission.

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That gave us information about
what's going on in the core.

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But this gives us a
measurement of Te.

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And Te does not necessarily
have to be the same as Ti.

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So that's not a very
good diagnostic.

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We could do something using
laser-induced fluorescence,

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or two-photon absorption
laser-induced fluorescence

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like this.

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If you remember, that's where we
had an upper level and a lower

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level and we scanned our laser
wavelength in frequency space

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here so that we could
address particles which

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are Doppler shifted towards
us and Doppler shifted away

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from us.

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And by looking at the
intensity of light coming out,

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we could measure this
distribution function here.

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So this looks like a
pretty good technique

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for measuring the core.

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The trouble is that in the
core, all of our particles

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are fully ionized.

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And so there are
no electrons here.

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So we can't use these
techniques because there

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are no ions with an
electron in them in order

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for us to be able to
address it using our laser.

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And thirdly, we could also
use Thomson scattering,

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which we haven't
talked about yet,

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but we will do in detail soon.

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The trouble with
Thomson scattering

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is that it tends to
give us information--

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scattering-- about the electron
distribution function, fe Ve,

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like that.

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And again, that doesn't
have to necessarily

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be the same as the ion
distribution function.

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So we're going to need
a new technique in order

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to measure the distribution
of these core particles.

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So the idea is, well,
what if, spontaneously,

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some of these core ions
turned into neutrals?

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Well, if some of these core
ions turned into neutrals, then

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they would no
longer be confined.

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They would be able
to wander freely out.

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And perhaps we could
stick a detector

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on the outside of the plasma and
measure these neutrals, which

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will carry with them some
information about the ion

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distribution they came from.

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And that will allow us
to indirectly measure

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the ion distribution.

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So what's a good way
to summarize this?

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They're going to--
these neutrals

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would give us information on
the distribution function.

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So there's two
problems that's coming

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to your mind straight away.

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Why exactly would an
iron suddenly turn itself

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into a neutral in the core?

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And does it stand a chance of
actually escaping from the core

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to the outside, where
we can detect it?

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And so we'll talk about those
two issues one after the other.

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So first of all is the
neutral production.

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And I guess we could
call the second problem

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neutral transport.

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So in terms of
neutral production,

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there are two major
processes that we could have.

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We could have a charge exchange.

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So I'm just going
to write that as CX.

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We talked about charge
exchange before.

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This is where a neutral collides
with an ion, and the neutral

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loses an electron and the
ion gains an electron.

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So we could have charge
exchange with edge neutrals.

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And they could be
neutrals coming

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in from the edge of the plasma.

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And that would look like some
neutrals coming in like this,

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and I'll use n sub a to be
some density of neutral atoms.

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These are going to be wandering
in from the edge all the time.

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Maybe a few of them
make it to the center,

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and then they charge
exchange of our core.

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And then those core--

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[INAUDIBLE]

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Hence, the ions make it back out
again and we can detect them.

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That's one possible mechanism.

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A more sort of active mechanism
would be taking a neutral beam

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and putting a neutral beam into
the center of the core here.

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This is neutral beam injection.

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We use neutral beam injection
for all sorts of things,

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like current drive and
heating of the plasma.

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And so we often have this
process happening automatically.

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The whole point of
the neutral beam

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here is that as these neutral
particles come into the center,

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they'll charge exchange with
the ions and become ions.

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But that means that the ions
they charge exchange with

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become neutrals.

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And so those neutrals may
come out of the plasma

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here, where we can detect them.

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So we have charge exchange
with edge neutrals

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and charge exchange with
neutral beam injection.

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Neutral transport is asking,
can the neutral make it

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from the center of the core--

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yeah.

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Can that neutral make
it out along some path?

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And so there's going to be
a series of processes which

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are trying to re-ionize
this neutral as it

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tries to leave the plasma.

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So these processes are
going to be things like--

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I'm going to give them their
cross-sections, sigma sub e.

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This is electron
impact ionization,

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which we talked about before.

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This is going to be--

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we can use sigma subscript p.

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This is ion impact ionization,
because we can also

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have collisions of ions
causing ionization here.

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And finally, we can have the
probability of charge exchange

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with ions.

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So if we've charge
exchanged once in order

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to get our neutral
in the first place,

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it's not at all impossible for
us to charge exchange again

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as we head out, and then
our core neutral that

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was heading out and giving
us information about the core

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will become an ion and
it'll be trapped again,

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and now, we'll have an ion and
further out become a neutral,

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and that will try and leak.

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So this charge exchange
process is particularly

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problematic because
what we're ending up

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with is something that
looks like a hydrogen

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neutral plus a hydrogen
ion going to a hydrogen ion

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but a hydrogen neutral.

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Now, the beautiful
symmetry in this equation

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here means that
this is resonant.

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And so it's quite
likely to happen.

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So this sigma C is large.

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So that's an overview of what
we're going to try and do.

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I'm going to talk a little
bit about the transport,

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estimate the size of these
different coefficients,

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and work out how likely it is
we can actually get any neutrals

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from the core back out again.

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And then we'll talk about
the neutral productions.

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I'm going to go 2 and then 1.

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But that's an overview.

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If you have any questions
before we get going,

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this is a good time to ask.

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

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JACK HARE: OK, yes.

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You should take a closer look
at Hutchinson's book for a more

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formal definition.

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But quantum
mechanically, this is

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nice and likely to
happen because we're

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starting-- or ending
up with something very

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similar to what we've started.

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And so this process
is likely to occur.

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Yeah.

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OK.

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So again, we've got some
blob of plasma here.

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We've got some particle,
which is born at a point A.

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And we want to know if we can
get to a point B, like this.

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So this is the core, and B is
where we have our detector.

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If you look at
this, you say, this

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looks an awful lot like our
radiation transport problem.

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And so we could say that there's
a probability of the particle

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getting from A to B. Or this
could be a power of particles

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as well if I multiply it by the
particle energy per unit time.

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And that's going to look like
the exponential of the line

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integral from A to B of
some opacity, in this case,

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more to do with
scattering than it

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is to do with
absorption, which varies

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along the path integrated--

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along the path, the L,
and then the minus sign.

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So again, this looks
like radiation transport.

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So we talked about three
different processes over there

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which might be important.

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And the importance of
those different processes

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will depend a lot on the
distribution functions

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that we have here.

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So if this is V And
this is f of V here,

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we'll have an ion
distribution function.

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And that's just the ions
making up the plasma.

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And that will be relatively
small in velocity space here.

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So this is f of i.

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And we'll also have an electron
distribution function, which

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is much broader, and that's
because the electrons

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are less massive.

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So for a similar temperature,
they have higher velocities.

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And we'll also assume that
our neutrals coming out here

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have some distribution that is
relatively narrow and shifted

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like this.

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So this is at a loss T, the
A like this for the neutrals.

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And so we're assuming here,
to make our calculations,

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that the ion
velocities are all much

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less than these core
neutral velocities.

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And this means that the i
minus the A is about VA.

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It's useful when we're working
out these cross-sections that

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have the difference between
the two velocity populations.

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And then we can write
down, that our attenuation

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coefficient alpha here is
going to look like one upon VA,

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the electron impact
cross-section

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sigma e Ve evaluated at VA and
e plus the ion impact ionization

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sigma p, Vi evaluated at VA.

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And that's times ni plus the
charge exchange cross-section,

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sigma C Vi evaluated at
VA times my ni, like that.

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And we'll also now
assume that our beam

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velocity is much less than--

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or, sorry, the neutral
atom velocity--

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the neutral is trying to
get out of the plasma--

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is much less than the sort
of average thermal velocity

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of the electrons so that
we can have this nice

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ordering where Vi is much less
than VA much less than Ve.

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And that allows us to
further simplify this.

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We'll simplify it in two ways.

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The first one is that
from the point of view

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of the electrons,
the ion-- sorry,

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the neutrals are
basically not moving.

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So we can set this to 0.

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And from the point of
view of the neutrals,

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this Vi is
approximately constant.

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It's a small value, and
it's approximately constant.

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And so we can just
take this Vi out.

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Sorry.

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We can evaluate this
Vi as just being VA

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and we can take it outside,
where it will nicely

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cancel with this VA.

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So this gives us
an expression that

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looks like 1 upon VA sigma e
Ve evaluated for effectively 0

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neutral velocity ne plus just
these two cross-sections,

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sigma p and sigma C, times ni.

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And we see that this term goes
as 1 upon VA and this term

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doesn't.

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So if we're dealing with
energetic enough neutrals

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coming out of the
core, then we can

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imagine that this term
could be relatively small.

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It will depend exactly
on what sigma e, sigma p,

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and sigma C are, but we can
imagine, for reasonable values,

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this term will cancel.

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So we end up with an
expression that just has this.

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So this again, is,
just roughly alpha.

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Neglecting this for large--

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OK.

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So then, you can
put this back up

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into our probability of the
particle getting through,

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and we just get exponential
of minus sigma p plus sigma C

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integral of ni dl, like this.

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And you can go into
Hutchinson's book

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and see graphs of
sigma p and sigma C,

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and sigma e, as well, for
different plasma conditions.

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And so if we just use
an example that maybe we

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have 10 keV neutrals
streaming out of the core,

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because that's the sort
of temperature we'd

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like in a fusion reactor,
so 10 keV neutrals,

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we've got a density of around
10 to the 20 per meter cubed.

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So this is on the dense
side for an MCF reactor,

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but that's the sort
of density we might

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need for reactable conditions.

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Then, using this, we
will get a length scale

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in this exponent,
which is effectively

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the mean free path of
the neutrals trying

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to leave the plasma.

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And that is going to be
about 10 centimeters.

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So for this relatively hot,
relatively dense plasma,

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we're not going to see very
many neutrals more than 10

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centimeters away from the core.

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And probably, our
reactor is going

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to have a diameter A of
about 100 centimeters or so.

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So we're not going to see very
many of these particles, which

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means that in order for
these neutral diagnostics

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to work at all, we're
going to require.

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But that require...

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AUDIENCE: And-- Yes.

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JACK HARE: Yeah.

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AUDIENCE: Have a--

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JACK HARE: OK, thank you.

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So we're going to require that
the line integrated density here

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is going to be less than
about 10 to the 19 per meter

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squared here.

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And if you do that, then you
get lambda A more like a meter

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or so.

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So we need "low" density.

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I put it in quote marks because
low means different things

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for different people.

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But we need a relatively
low density tokamak

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or magnetic confinement
fusion device

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in order to get neutrals
escaping from the core.

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OK, questions on this?

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Yes, Audrey?

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

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JACK HARE: This is just, like, a
feed of the neutrals coming out

00:17:18.270 --> 00:17:18.770 align:middle line:90%
here.

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I realize, actually,
drawing this,

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I don't think this
is right at all.

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I don't think this is a
delta function, because we're

00:17:24.542 --> 00:17:25.750 align:middle line:90%
talking about a distribution.

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That's the whole thing we're
trying to measure here.

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So I think that, actually, I
should be drawing it like this

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and call it f of A.

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So this is the distribution
of the neutrals.

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It's something Maxwellian-ish.

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But the average
velocity here, which

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I could call VTa, which is maybe
here, is much larger than VTi,

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but much smaller than VTe.

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So this is just the idea
that for these neutrals here,

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from the point of
view of the neutrals,

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the ions are
basically stationary,

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and from the point of
view of the electrons,

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the neutrals are basically
stationary as well.

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And that allows us to
simplify all of these angle

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brackets, which are
actually averaging

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over the difference between
the two velocity distributions.

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We can even set it to 0, or just
be the velocity of the neutrals.

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

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JACK HARE: Yeah,
well, we imagine

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there's some temperature
distribution inside this.

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So we're talking about,
these neutrals here

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are neutrals that are in
the core of the plasma,

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so we hope they're
hotter than the ions

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in the rest of the plasma.

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AUDIENCE: OK.

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So that [INAUDIBLE].

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JACK HARE: No, these
are the ions out here

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or something like
that, further out.

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Yeah, that's a good question.

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So if we have a sort of radius
and temperature-type thing,

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we assume, for a good reactor,
that it's peaked in some way.

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And so we're asking you about
this, the f of i Vi at r

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equals 0 becomes rf of neutrals
V neutral at r equals 0.

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But they're streaming
through some f of i Vi

00:19:12.310 --> 00:19:15.767 align:middle line:84%
at r greater than 0,
which in general is going

00:19:15.767 --> 00:19:16.850 align:middle line:90%
to be a lower temperature.

00:19:16.850 --> 00:19:18.250 align:middle line:90%
So the distribution is smaller.

00:19:18.250 --> 00:19:19.062 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

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All of this is very
hand-wavy, of course.

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If you want to do
this properly, you

00:19:21.970 --> 00:19:24.303 align:middle line:84%
have to keep track and do all
these integrals correctly.

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But just to give an idea of
the most important effect,

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it turns out r-- the
[? ion-ion ?] impact ionization

00:19:31.300 --> 00:19:32.590 align:middle line:90%
and the charge exchange.

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And the charge exchange
dominates this pretty strongly,

00:19:35.030 --> 00:19:35.530 align:middle line:90%
actually.

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So it's mostly just
charge exchange

00:19:37.393 --> 00:19:38.560 align:middle line:90%
with some of the other ions.

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Yeah.

00:19:40.420 --> 00:19:43.050 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

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JACK HARE: We haven't
talked about that.

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No.

00:19:46.710 --> 00:19:49.380 align:middle line:84%
So what I'm saying is,
imagine somehow you have

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created neutrals in the core.

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Would they actually
be able to get out?

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Because if they can't
get out, there's

00:19:54.210 --> 00:19:56.440 align:middle line:84%
no point even trying to create
them in the first place.

00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:59.065 align:middle line:84%
So we're sort of working our way
backwards through the problem.

00:19:59.065 --> 00:20:01.140 align:middle line:84%
The next step is,
OK, now that we know,

00:20:01.140 --> 00:20:03.240 align:middle line:84%
if we create some
neutrals, they can escape,

00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:05.040 align:middle line:84%
we can probably measure
them in some way

00:20:05.040 --> 00:20:07.620 align:middle line:84%
and learn about the
core ion distribution.

00:20:07.620 --> 00:20:09.450 align:middle line:84%
Now that we know
that that's the case,

00:20:09.450 --> 00:20:11.713 align:middle line:84%
can we now work out how
to create the neutrals?

00:20:11.713 --> 00:20:13.630 align:middle line:84%
And we'll talk about
some techniques for that.

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Yeah.

00:20:15.022 --> 00:20:16.926 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

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AUDIENCE: Why would
we [INAUDIBLE]?

00:20:18.768 --> 00:20:23.393 align:middle line:90%


00:20:23.393 --> 00:20:24.060 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yeah.

00:20:24.060 --> 00:20:24.990 align:middle line:90%
I mean, this is very crude.

00:20:24.990 --> 00:20:25.782 align:middle line:90%
You're quite right.

00:20:25.782 --> 00:20:27.725 align:middle line:84%
I mean, this should
be inside here.

00:20:27.725 --> 00:20:29.100 align:middle line:84%
But if we assume
that these don't

00:20:29.100 --> 00:20:31.620 align:middle line:84%
vary too much as the particle
travels from the core

00:20:31.620 --> 00:20:33.377 align:middle line:84%
to the edge, then
it allows us just

00:20:33.377 --> 00:20:35.460 align:middle line:84%
to pull out this factor
of ni dl and make it clear

00:20:35.460 --> 00:20:37.390 align:middle line:84%
that it's like the
line-integrated density that's

00:20:37.390 --> 00:20:38.070 align:middle line:90%
important thing.

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In reality, it would
have to stay inside.

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Yeah.

00:20:43.810 --> 00:20:44.820 align:middle line:90%
Cool.

00:20:44.820 --> 00:20:45.700 align:middle line:90%
Any questions online?

00:20:45.700 --> 00:20:50.840 align:middle line:90%


00:20:50.840 --> 00:20:51.350 align:middle line:90%
All right.

00:20:51.350 --> 00:20:53.840 align:middle line:84%
Let's go find out how to put
some neutrals in the core.

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00:21:04.315 --> 00:21:06.190 align:middle line:84%
I'm trying to spell
neutrals with an A there.

00:21:06.190 --> 00:21:13.990 align:middle line:90%


00:21:13.990 --> 00:21:14.920 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:21.570 align:middle line:84%
So again, Let's have some flux
surfaces, some plasma like this.

00:21:21.570 --> 00:21:24.680 align:middle line:84%
So one of the ways the
neutrals could get there,

00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:27.350 align:middle line:84%
as we discussed before,
is from the edge.

00:21:27.350 --> 00:21:29.210 align:middle line:84%
So around the edge
of the plasma,

00:21:29.210 --> 00:21:31.888 align:middle line:84%
there's, for example,
the scrape-off layer.

00:21:31.888 --> 00:21:33.680 align:middle line:84%
And then there's going
to be a region which

00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:36.650 align:middle line:84%
is in contact with the wall,
which is relatively cold.

00:21:36.650 --> 00:21:39.530 align:middle line:84%
And so we can have neutrals
being produced here.

00:21:39.530 --> 00:21:42.017 align:middle line:84%
And these neutrals
will wander in

00:21:42.017 --> 00:21:43.850 align:middle line:84%
and they won't see the
magnetic field lines,

00:21:43.850 --> 00:21:46.820 align:middle line:84%
and so maybe one of them
will only get so far here

00:21:46.820 --> 00:21:48.268 align:middle line:90%
before the charge exchanges.

00:21:48.268 --> 00:21:50.060 align:middle line:84%
And this one will get
a little bit further.

00:21:50.060 --> 00:21:53.420 align:middle line:84%
But you could imagine that
maybe a couple of these neutrals

00:21:53.420 --> 00:21:56.600 align:middle line:84%
wander into the center,
they charge exchange,

00:21:56.600 --> 00:22:01.520 align:middle line:84%
and then we can start getting
the new neutrals, the ones that

00:22:01.520 --> 00:22:04.880 align:middle line:84%
represent the core ions,
start moving back out again.

00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:08.230 align:middle line:90%


00:22:08.230 --> 00:22:10.345 align:middle line:90%
So one possibility is--

00:22:10.345 --> 00:22:11.470 align:middle line:90%
we'll call it edge fueling.

00:22:11.470 --> 00:22:17.830 align:middle line:90%


00:22:17.830 --> 00:22:20.470 align:middle line:84%
And we know how to calculate
the probability of that,

00:22:20.470 --> 00:22:22.240 align:middle line:84%
because we just spent
a long time trying

00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:25.280 align:middle line:84%
to calculate the probability
of the opposite process.

00:22:25.280 --> 00:22:27.550 align:middle line:84%
So now, we know
that it's basically

00:22:27.550 --> 00:22:32.020 align:middle line:84%
PBA, which is the probability
of going from the outside, B,

00:22:32.020 --> 00:22:35.720 align:middle line:84%
into the core, which we called
A in our previous diagram.

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So we can estimate how likely it
is that any of these particles

00:22:39.040 --> 00:22:39.610 align:middle line:90%
get through.

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And the answer is
that this actually

00:22:41.110 --> 00:22:43.623 align:middle line:84%
does create a fair amount
of neutrals in the core.

00:22:43.623 --> 00:22:45.790 align:middle line:84%
Just because there are so
many neutrals in the edge,

00:22:45.790 --> 00:22:47.040 align:middle line:90%
some of them will get through.

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So this technique by
itself will create

00:22:49.180 --> 00:22:53.080 align:middle line:84%
a detectable flux of core
neutrals coming back out again.

00:22:53.080 --> 00:22:55.620 align:middle line:90%


00:22:55.620 --> 00:22:57.480 align:middle line:90%
So PBA, which is edge to core.

00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:02.673 align:middle line:90%


00:23:02.673 --> 00:23:03.840 align:middle line:90%
Another thing you might say.

00:23:03.840 --> 00:23:07.080 align:middle line:84%
Well, perhaps, just by some
atomic processes in the core

00:23:07.080 --> 00:23:09.960 align:middle line:84%
here, we could get
neutrals developing here.

00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:21.522 align:middle line:84%
So we could have
radiative recombination,

00:23:21.522 --> 00:23:24.105 align:middle line:84%
because, after all, there's a
load of electrons flying around.

00:23:24.105 --> 00:23:29.250 align:middle line:90%


00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:31.598 align:middle line:84%
These electrons are up
above the ionization energy,

00:23:31.598 --> 00:23:32.265 align:middle line:90%
so they're free.

00:23:32.265 --> 00:23:35.160 align:middle line:90%


00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:38.460 align:middle line:84%
This electron could be caught
by the electric potential

00:23:38.460 --> 00:23:41.050 align:middle line:84%
of the ion and become
a bound electron.

00:23:41.050 --> 00:23:46.350 align:middle line:84%
And then we would get out
our recombination photon.

00:23:46.350 --> 00:23:47.610 align:middle line:90%
That process could happen.

00:23:47.610 --> 00:23:52.800 align:middle line:84%
But of course, the other
process we've already discussed

00:23:52.800 --> 00:23:56.570 align:middle line:84%
is when we have an electron
come in and collide

00:23:56.570 --> 00:23:58.160 align:middle line:84%
with one of the inner
shell electrons,

00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:01.400 align:middle line:84%
and we end up with two
electrons coming back out again.

00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:07.840 align:middle line:84%
And this is electron
impact ionization.

00:24:07.840 --> 00:24:13.200 align:middle line:84%
And there'll be a balance in the
steady state between these two

00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.270 align:middle line:84%
processes and that
balance will look

00:24:15.270 --> 00:24:18.990 align:middle line:84%
like the density of electrons,
the density of ions,

00:24:18.990 --> 00:24:21.120 align:middle line:84%
the reactivity or
the cross-section

00:24:21.120 --> 00:24:25.110 align:middle line:84%
for the radiative recombination,
timesed by the electron

00:24:25.110 --> 00:24:26.490 align:middle line:90%
velocity.

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And that will be balanced by the
electron density, the density

00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:37.980 align:middle line:84%
of neutrals here, sigma e for
electron impact ionization, Ve,

00:24:37.980 --> 00:24:38.950 align:middle line:90%
like that.

00:24:38.950 --> 00:24:40.620 align:middle line:84%
So that means that
we can look at this

00:24:40.620 --> 00:24:45.210 align:middle line:84%
and go, OK, what is the steady
state density of neutrals?

00:24:45.210 --> 00:24:49.080 align:middle line:90%
That's going to be nA over ni.

00:24:49.080 --> 00:24:51.660 align:middle line:84%
These cancel, so
it's just going to be

00:24:51.660 --> 00:25:00.180 align:middle line:84%
the ratio of these reactivities,
sigma r Ve over sigma e Ve,

00:25:00.180 --> 00:25:02.020 align:middle line:90%
like that.

00:25:02.020 --> 00:25:06.730 align:middle line:84%
And at 1 keV, which is a
reasonable temperature for you

00:25:06.730 --> 00:25:12.750 align:middle line:84%
to have in your core, this
is about 10 to the minus 8.

00:25:12.750 --> 00:25:14.250 align:middle line:84%
So the point I'm
trying to make here

00:25:14.250 --> 00:25:16.530 align:middle line:84%
is although you
might occasionally

00:25:16.530 --> 00:25:19.950 align:middle line:84%
have some recombination process,
because the other processes

00:25:19.950 --> 00:25:22.200 align:middle line:84%
which lead to ionization,
again, are so rapid,

00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:24.000 align:middle line:90%
you quickly will re-ionize.

00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:27.430 align:middle line:84%
And so if you have
10 to the 13 or 10

00:25:27.430 --> 00:25:30.270 align:middle line:84%
to the 20 ions per
cubic meter, they'll

00:25:30.270 --> 00:25:31.620 align:middle line:90%
only have 10 to the 12 neutrals.

00:25:31.620 --> 00:25:33.245 align:middle line:84%
And that's not really
enough to detect.

00:25:33.245 --> 00:25:34.860 align:middle line:90%
So this is negligible.

00:25:34.860 --> 00:25:41.840 align:middle line:90%


00:25:41.840 --> 00:25:43.690 align:middle line:90%
So edge fueling.

00:25:43.690 --> 00:25:46.390 align:middle line:84%
Yes, it could be a way of
getting neutrals in the core.

00:25:46.390 --> 00:25:48.610 align:middle line:84%
Radiative recombination
is not a way.

00:25:48.610 --> 00:25:50.920 align:middle line:84%
And you kind of know
this because if this

00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:52.630 align:middle line:84%
was an effective
process, then you

00:25:52.630 --> 00:25:54.380 align:middle line:84%
would end up with a
large neutral fraction

00:25:54.380 --> 00:25:56.380 align:middle line:84%
in the core of your
tokamak, and that's

00:25:56.380 --> 00:25:58.300 align:middle line:84%
not something that we
generally think about

00:25:58.300 --> 00:26:02.000 align:middle line:90%
and doesn't generally happen.

00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:05.330 align:middle line:84%
And then finally,
there are beams.

00:26:05.330 --> 00:26:08.000 align:middle line:84%
And I'll talk a little bit
more about beams in a second,

00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:09.860 align:middle line:84%
as an active version
of the diagnostic,

00:26:09.860 --> 00:26:12.320 align:middle line:84%
but I just want to talk
about how we actually

00:26:12.320 --> 00:26:17.500 align:middle line:84%
measure these neutrals coming
out in this passive version

00:26:17.500 --> 00:26:19.660 align:middle line:84%
where we just let edge
fueling do the work.

00:26:19.660 --> 00:26:23.270 align:middle line:90%


00:26:23.270 --> 00:26:32.935 align:middle line:84%
So passive cx with
edge neutrals.

00:26:32.935 --> 00:26:39.750 align:middle line:90%


00:26:39.750 --> 00:26:45.390 align:middle line:84%
So we've got some tokamak
vacuum chamber, some MCF vacuum

00:26:45.390 --> 00:26:48.550 align:middle line:84%
chamber, with some
plasma like this.

00:26:48.550 --> 00:26:55.030 align:middle line:84%
We have all of the particles
coming in from the edge,

00:26:55.030 --> 00:26:57.970 align:middle line:84%
and then the charge exchanging
with particles in the core.

00:26:57.970 --> 00:27:04.300 align:middle line:84%
And they're producing,
for example,

00:27:04.300 --> 00:27:07.290 align:middle line:84%
a hydrogen neutral that's
coming out from the core.

00:27:07.290 --> 00:27:10.440 align:middle line:84%
And we put that hydrogen
neutral into something

00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.285 align:middle line:90%
called a stripping cell.

00:27:12.285 --> 00:27:20.770 align:middle line:90%


00:27:20.770 --> 00:27:24.190 align:middle line:84%
And it comes out as a hydrogen
ion again, but a hydrogen

00:27:24.190 --> 00:27:26.200 align:middle line:84%
ion with the same
velocity, or effectively,

00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:28.870 align:middle line:84%
the same distribution function,
as the neutral coming in.

00:27:28.870 --> 00:27:32.890 align:middle line:84%
The stripping cell has a
very electropositive gas,

00:27:32.890 --> 00:27:34.690 align:middle line:84%
so it wants to take
off the electrons,

00:27:34.690 --> 00:27:36.520 align:middle line:84%
and it will charge
exchange without really

00:27:36.520 --> 00:27:38.410 align:middle line:84%
changing the trajectory
of this very much.

00:27:38.410 --> 00:27:42.970 align:middle line:84%
And then we have, for example,
a large magnetic field

00:27:42.970 --> 00:27:47.920 align:middle line:84%
in this region that bends
the particles according

00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.140 align:middle line:90%
to their velocity.

00:27:50.140 --> 00:27:55.750 align:middle line:84%
And then we have a detector
like this with bins in it,

00:27:55.750 --> 00:27:58.870 align:middle line:84%
and the bins have
different sensitivity

00:27:58.870 --> 00:28:00.320 align:middle line:90%
to different velocities here.

00:28:00.320 --> 00:28:06.260 align:middle line:84%
And so by counting out a number
of particles in each bin,

00:28:06.260 --> 00:28:14.490 align:middle line:84%
we get out that distribution
function, like that.

00:28:14.490 --> 00:28:17.610 align:middle line:84%
And we hope that, during
their travels from the core

00:28:17.610 --> 00:28:19.530 align:middle line:84%
through our stripping
cell onto our detector,

00:28:19.530 --> 00:28:21.905 align:middle line:84%
the distribution function has
not been changed very much.

00:28:21.905 --> 00:28:24.090 align:middle line:84%
So we really are measuring
the distribution function

00:28:24.090 --> 00:28:26.530 align:middle line:84%
of the particles in
the center there.

00:28:26.530 --> 00:28:29.370 align:middle line:84%
So if we look at
that on our detector,

00:28:29.370 --> 00:28:33.150 align:middle line:84%
I plot it on a
logarithmic scale.

00:28:33.150 --> 00:28:39.750 align:middle line:84%
The log of intensity, which is
equal to log of particle number

00:28:39.750 --> 00:28:45.230 align:middle line:84%
versus particle energy here,
but not velocity but energy,

00:28:45.230 --> 00:28:53.550 align:middle line:84%
which is 1/2 mv squared, we see
that we have a region that is

00:28:53.550 --> 00:28:59.680 align:middle line:84%
approximately straight, and
that has a slope of 1 over Ti,

00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.500 align:middle line:84%
because our distribution
function for Maxwellian is

00:29:02.500 --> 00:29:07.580 align:middle line:84%
exponential of minus
e over Ti like that.

00:29:07.580 --> 00:29:10.660 align:middle line:84%
And then we might have
some interesting features

00:29:10.660 --> 00:29:14.440 align:middle line:84%
down at the bottom here,
where it looks non-Maxwellian.

00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.030 align:middle line:90%
And so this can be the tail.

00:29:17.030 --> 00:29:18.770 align:middle line:84%
And this will
correspond to fast ions.

00:29:18.770 --> 00:29:25.750 align:middle line:90%


00:29:25.750 --> 00:29:27.760 align:middle line:84%
And measuring fast
ions is very important

00:29:27.760 --> 00:29:29.260 align:middle line:90%
in magnetic confinement fusion.

00:29:29.260 --> 00:29:36.430 align:middle line:84%
These fast ions might be due
to things like rf heating,

00:29:36.430 --> 00:29:40.390 align:middle line:84%
or they might be due to
runaways being produced

00:29:40.390 --> 00:29:44.360 align:middle line:84%
by inductively driven electric
fields, or other cool physics.

00:29:44.360 --> 00:29:48.170 align:middle line:84%
So it's nice to be able to
measure those fast ions as well.

00:29:48.170 --> 00:29:50.190 align:middle line:84%
The main problem with
this technique, of course,

00:29:50.190 --> 00:29:51.190 align:middle line:90%
is it's line-integrated.

00:29:51.190 --> 00:29:53.800 align:middle line:84%
If I have my detector
set up like this,

00:29:53.800 --> 00:29:58.340 align:middle line:84%
I'm collecting all the
particles in this region

00:29:58.340 --> 00:29:59.420 align:middle line:90%
that come down here.

00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:03.360 align:middle line:90%


00:30:03.360 --> 00:30:05.150 align:middle line:84%
And so you don't really
know exactly where

00:30:05.150 --> 00:30:06.720 align:middle line:90%
those particles have come from.

00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.137 align:middle line:84%
And so we have the
same problem we

00:30:08.137 --> 00:30:11.560 align:middle line:84%
have with all of our other
line-integrated diagnostics.

00:30:11.560 --> 00:30:13.473 align:middle line:90%
But it's pretty free.

00:30:13.473 --> 00:30:15.640 align:middle line:84%
We don't actually have to
put any effort into making

00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:16.660 align:middle line:90%
neutrals in the center there.

00:30:16.660 --> 00:30:18.730 align:middle line:84%
We just let the fact that
we have a crappy vacuum

00:30:18.730 --> 00:30:20.270 align:middle line:90%
chamber do the work for us.

00:30:20.270 --> 00:30:22.060 align:middle line:84%
So this is a nice
way to do it if you

00:30:22.060 --> 00:30:24.387 align:middle line:90%
don't have a neutral beam.

00:30:24.387 --> 00:30:26.470 align:middle line:84%
Any questions on that
before we put a neutral beam

00:30:26.470 --> 00:30:27.137 align:middle line:90%
into the system?

00:30:27.137 --> 00:30:34.980 align:middle line:90%


00:30:34.980 --> 00:30:35.480 align:middle line:90%
Mm-hmm.

00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:38.835 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:30:38.835 --> 00:30:42.152 align:middle line:90%


00:30:42.152 --> 00:30:45.420 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: Oh, you would just
have a magnetic field here.

00:30:45.420 --> 00:30:49.950 align:middle line:90%


00:30:49.950 --> 00:30:52.498 align:middle line:84%
And frankly, the magnetic
field of your tokamak

00:30:52.498 --> 00:30:53.790 align:middle line:90%
does a pretty good job of that.

00:30:53.790 --> 00:30:54.520 align:middle line:90%
But yeah.

00:30:54.520 --> 00:30:57.571 align:middle line:90%


00:30:57.571 --> 00:31:00.238 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: How does it depend on
the material of the [INAUDIBLE]?

00:31:00.238 --> 00:31:04.550 align:middle line:90%


00:31:04.550 --> 00:31:06.050 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: How does what depend?

00:31:06.050 --> 00:31:10.040 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Like, how
many does [INAUDIBLE]?

00:31:10.040 --> 00:31:10.780 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yeah.

00:31:10.780 --> 00:31:12.657 align:middle line:84%
I mean, we tend to
be thinking about--

00:31:12.657 --> 00:31:14.990 align:middle line:84%
we still tend to be thinking
about these neutrals coming

00:31:14.990 --> 00:31:19.090 align:middle line:84%
from the edges being hydrogen.
So when we have the hydrogen

00:31:19.090 --> 00:31:21.657 align:middle line:84%
plasma-- by hydrogen, I mean
deuterium and tritium, our fuel.

00:31:21.657 --> 00:31:23.740 align:middle line:84%
So when we have our fuel
in contact with the wall,

00:31:23.740 --> 00:31:27.220 align:middle line:84%
there will be a layer
of low ionization

00:31:27.220 --> 00:31:29.578 align:middle line:84%
state, partially neutral
gas around the edge,

00:31:29.578 --> 00:31:31.370 align:middle line:84%
just because it's in
contact with the wall.

00:31:31.370 --> 00:31:33.430 align:middle line:84%
And so most of this
will be coming from.

00:31:33.430 --> 00:31:36.627 align:middle line:84%
I don't know what happens
if you start looking at this

00:31:36.627 --> 00:31:38.710 align:middle line:84%
and you start looking at
all the neutrals as well.

00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:41.230 align:middle line:84%
Presumably, you now need many
more coefficients to calculate.

00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:42.520 align:middle line:84%
And probably, if you're
doing it properly,

00:31:42.520 --> 00:31:44.110 align:middle line:84%
you should take
into account those.

00:31:44.110 --> 00:31:47.080 align:middle line:84%
But I think, although
impurities can dominate things

00:31:47.080 --> 00:31:51.770 align:middle line:84%
like line radiation, this really
depends on the ion number.

00:31:51.770 --> 00:31:53.530 align:middle line:84%
So we're going to be
thinking, probably,

00:31:53.530 --> 00:31:57.147 align:middle line:84%
about-- the impurities probably
don't have a higher number

00:31:57.147 --> 00:31:59.230 align:middle line:84%
density than the fuel, or
if you've done something

00:31:59.230 --> 00:32:00.397 align:middle line:90%
very wrong, that's happened.

00:32:00.397 --> 00:32:03.660 align:middle line:84%
So I think you're still going to
be dominated by your fuel ion.

00:32:03.660 --> 00:32:05.140 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, cool.

00:32:05.140 --> 00:32:06.230 align:middle line:90%
Yes?

00:32:06.230 --> 00:32:08.480 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So if you start
with the neutral at the edge

00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:12.450 align:middle line:84%
and then it goes into the
plasma for charge exchange,

00:32:12.450 --> 00:32:16.920 align:middle line:84%
then the new neutral that
leaks out was an ion in plasma,

00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.410 align:middle line:84%
and then you're measuring
that neutral that leaks out.

00:32:19.410 --> 00:32:24.420 align:middle line:84%
How do you know that you're only
measuring both [INAUDIBLE] ion

00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:26.573 align:middle line:84%
and the neutrals
at the [INAUDIBLE]?

00:32:26.573 --> 00:32:27.240 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yeah.

00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:29.430 align:middle line:84%
So the question was, how do we
know that none of our signal

00:32:29.430 --> 00:32:30.720 align:middle line:84%
is due to the
neutrals at the edge?

00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.710 align:middle line:84%
Well, the neutrals at
the edge are very cold.

00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:34.420 align:middle line:90%
So their energy is very low.

00:32:34.420 --> 00:32:36.870 align:middle line:84%
So we probably will
have a spectra that

00:32:36.870 --> 00:32:41.730 align:middle line:84%
looks like this or something,
with some noise up here,

00:32:41.730 --> 00:32:44.637 align:middle line:84%
or some spurious signal
that's due to other neutrals

00:32:44.637 --> 00:32:45.220 align:middle line:90%
in the system.

00:32:45.220 --> 00:32:48.340 align:middle line:84%
So I'll just start my fit
at some nice high energy,

00:32:48.340 --> 00:32:51.600 align:middle line:84%
which can't be due to
any of these cold ions--

00:32:51.600 --> 00:32:53.160 align:middle line:90%
or cold neutrals from the edge.

00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:58.150 align:middle line:84%
Has to just be due to
the core ions instead.

00:32:58.150 --> 00:33:01.235 align:middle line:90%
Any other-- yeah.

00:33:01.235 --> 00:33:21.083 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE],

00:33:21.083 --> 00:33:21.750 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yeah.

00:33:21.750 --> 00:33:24.810 align:middle line:84%
So I mean, that's what's
very challenging about this

00:33:24.810 --> 00:33:26.460 align:middle line:84%
here, because in
fact, this will be,

00:33:26.460 --> 00:33:28.500 align:middle line:84%
like, the sum of a load
of lines which will

00:33:28.500 --> 00:33:29.740 align:middle line:90%
be weighted by their density.

00:33:29.740 --> 00:33:31.530 align:middle line:84%
So I think it is
difficult to interpret

00:33:31.530 --> 00:33:33.150 align:middle line:90%
the passive version of it.

00:33:33.150 --> 00:33:35.253 align:middle line:84%
Of course, if you go
high enough out in energy

00:33:35.253 --> 00:33:37.920 align:middle line:84%
and you can still fit a bit of a
straight line, you can be like,

00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.050 align:middle line:84%
there is some part
of my plasma--

00:33:40.050 --> 00:33:41.760 align:middle line:84%
because you'll have
different slopes.

00:33:41.760 --> 00:33:44.438 align:middle line:90%


00:33:44.438 --> 00:33:45.980 align:middle line:84%
And there will only
be one slope that

00:33:45.980 --> 00:33:48.355 align:middle line:84%
still extends all the way out
here, because each of these

00:33:48.355 --> 00:33:49.920 align:middle line:84%
will eventually
sort of drop off.

00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.670 align:middle line:84%
So if you're like, aha, still
out here, there's some region,

00:33:52.670 --> 00:33:54.402 align:middle line:84%
then that's probably
your core ions.

00:33:54.402 --> 00:33:56.360 align:middle line:84%
So you might have a chance
of identifying them.

00:33:56.360 --> 00:33:58.652 align:middle line:84%
But in general, your signal
will look more complicated,

00:33:58.652 --> 00:34:01.980 align:middle line:84%
which leads me very neatly on to
using a neutral beam to do this

00:34:01.980 --> 00:34:02.480 align:middle line:90%
instead.

00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:22.393 align:middle line:90%


00:34:22.393 --> 00:34:24.060 align:middle line:84%
So this actually is
very similar to some

00:34:24.060 --> 00:34:26.610 align:middle line:84%
of those active
spectroscopy diagnostics

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we talked about before.

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We've, again, got our vacuum
chamber and our plasma

00:34:30.929 --> 00:34:34.380 align:middle line:84%
like this, but now,
we have a neutral beam

00:34:34.380 --> 00:34:35.535 align:middle line:90%
going through the plasma.

00:34:35.535 --> 00:34:39.590 align:middle line:90%


00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:43.810 align:middle line:84%
And if we have our detector
oriented perpendicularly

00:34:43.810 --> 00:34:48.489 align:middle line:84%
to this, now, we know that
the majority of the neutrals

00:34:48.489 --> 00:34:49.900 align:middle line:84%
are being born by
charge exchange

00:34:49.900 --> 00:34:53.199 align:middle line:84%
between the neutral beam
and this small core region

00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.480 align:middle line:84%
here, which overlaps
the field of view

00:34:55.480 --> 00:35:00.490 align:middle line:84%
of our detector and
the neutral beam here.

00:35:00.490 --> 00:35:05.050 align:middle line:84%
And so now, we know very well,
when these particles come out,

00:35:05.050 --> 00:35:13.110 align:middle line:84%
that we are detecting f of i Vi
r about 0 from the core here.

00:35:13.110 --> 00:35:17.930 align:middle line:84%
So this allows us to actively
probe that central region here.

00:35:17.930 --> 00:35:19.010 align:middle line:90%
It's the localizers.

00:35:19.010 --> 00:35:28.930 align:middle line:90%


00:35:28.930 --> 00:35:31.360 align:middle line:84%
And this is often
convenient because we often

00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:32.230 align:middle line:90%
have neutral beams.

00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:34.150 align:middle line:84%
As we said, these
neutral beams are already

00:35:34.150 --> 00:35:39.080 align:middle line:84%
being used for heating
and for current drive.

00:35:39.080 --> 00:35:44.693 align:middle line:90%


00:35:44.693 --> 00:35:47.370 align:middle line:84%
Of course, the neutral
beam has the same problem

00:35:47.370 --> 00:35:49.080 align:middle line:84%
that we found out
when we were talking

00:35:49.080 --> 00:35:51.750 align:middle line:84%
about how far these
neutrals can penetrate.

00:35:51.750 --> 00:35:54.450 align:middle line:84%
If you have a density that's
high enough inside your machine,

00:35:54.450 --> 00:35:56.370 align:middle line:84%
you're not going to be able
to use a neutral beam to heat

00:35:56.370 --> 00:35:57.453 align:middle line:90%
all of your current drive.

00:35:57.453 --> 00:35:59.010 align:middle line:84%
So neutral beams
tend to be limited

00:35:59.010 --> 00:36:01.860 align:middle line:84%
to lower-density machines,
which is why we've never

00:36:01.860 --> 00:36:04.430 align:middle line:84%
had much use for them
on devices like CMOS,

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where the magnetic field and
the density is very, very high.

00:36:06.930 --> 00:36:09.770 align:middle line:84%
But for other devices, you may
well have a neutral beam already

00:36:09.770 --> 00:36:10.270 align:middle line:90%
there.

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So this is, again,
kind of a freebie

00:36:12.690 --> 00:36:14.160 align:middle line:90%
to have this as a diagnostic.

00:36:14.160 --> 00:36:16.960 align:middle line:90%


00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.510 align:middle line:84%
Let's talk about
some other things

00:36:19.510 --> 00:36:22.120 align:middle line:90%
you can do with a neutral beam.

00:36:22.120 --> 00:36:25.100 align:middle line:90%


00:36:25.100 --> 00:36:28.400 align:middle line:84%
So there's a very nice
technique which is called--

00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.950 align:middle line:90%


00:36:30.950 --> 00:36:31.960 align:middle line:90%
where's my green?

00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:34.970 align:middle line:90%
There we go.

00:36:34.970 --> 00:36:43.680 align:middle line:90%
Charge exchange spectroscopy.

00:36:43.680 --> 00:36:48.370 align:middle line:90%


00:36:48.370 --> 00:36:50.230 align:middle line:84%
This technique has
developed a number

00:36:50.230 --> 00:36:51.940 align:middle line:84%
of acronyms in the
literature, which

00:36:51.940 --> 00:36:55.370 align:middle line:90%
are all identical in meaning.

00:36:55.370 --> 00:36:57.910 align:middle line:84%
So some people call it
charge exchange recombination

00:36:57.910 --> 00:37:02.740 align:middle line:84%
spectroscopy, and some people
call it charge exchange

00:37:02.740 --> 00:37:04.917 align:middle line:90%
recombination spectroscopy.

00:37:04.917 --> 00:37:07.250 align:middle line:84%
So if you see an acronym that
looks something like this,

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they're probably talking
about the same diagnostic.

00:37:09.375 --> 00:37:11.300 align:middle line:84%
These are not two
separate diagnostics.

00:37:11.300 --> 00:37:14.120 align:middle line:90%
They are the same thing here.

00:37:14.120 --> 00:37:17.440 align:middle line:84%
So the idea of charge
exchange recombination

00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.860 align:middle line:84%
spectroscopy is,
within our plasma,

00:37:21.860 --> 00:37:25.170 align:middle line:90%
we will have some neutrals.

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Sorry, we will have some
ions which are impurity ions.

00:37:27.810 --> 00:37:28.570 align:middle line:90%
Sorry.

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So impurity, like
A. We'll just use

00:37:36.690 --> 00:37:39.480 align:middle line:84%
the symbol A. I'll make it
clear what it is in a moment.

00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:43.470 align:middle line:84%
These impurities will the things
like oxygen or carbon or boron.

00:37:43.470 --> 00:37:46.920 align:middle line:84%
And although these impurities
have many more electrons

00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:50.370 align:middle line:84%
than the hydrogen, they are,
in the center of the machine,

00:37:50.370 --> 00:37:51.480 align:middle line:90%
probably fully stripped.

00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.140 align:middle line:84%
They've lost all
of their electrons.

00:37:53.140 --> 00:37:55.950 align:middle line:84%
So they no longer can
produce any light,

00:37:55.950 --> 00:37:58.080 align:middle line:84%
so we can't detect their
presence in the machine.

00:37:58.080 --> 00:38:00.470 align:middle line:84%
So we don't know where
these impurities are.

00:38:00.470 --> 00:38:02.400 align:middle line:84%
So the idea of charge
exchange recombination

00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:04.380 align:middle line:84%
spectroscopy is, we
put our neutral beam

00:38:04.380 --> 00:38:10.090 align:middle line:84%
through the machine,
and we end up charge

00:38:10.090 --> 00:38:11.630 align:middle line:90%
exchanging on these impurities.

00:38:11.630 --> 00:38:18.930 align:middle line:84%
So we have some neutral beam
and some impurity in a state Z

00:38:18.930 --> 00:38:24.420 align:middle line:84%
plus where it's ionized at
times, and this charge exchanges

00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:30.240 align:middle line:84%
and gives us a neutral
beam ion plus an impurity

00:38:30.240 --> 00:38:35.580 align:middle line:90%
in a state Z minus 1 plus.

00:38:35.580 --> 00:38:37.607 align:middle line:84%
And most importantly,
it's likely

00:38:37.607 --> 00:38:39.690 align:middle line:84%
that the impurity will end
up in an excited state.

00:38:39.690 --> 00:38:47.560 align:middle line:90%


00:38:47.560 --> 00:38:51.570 align:middle line:84%
So then our impurity, which
is in some excited state,

00:38:51.570 --> 00:38:54.630 align:middle line:84%
it will spontaneously
decay down and we'll

00:38:54.630 --> 00:38:57.180 align:middle line:90%
get out a photon like that.

00:38:57.180 --> 00:39:00.865 align:middle line:84%
And because this photon will
have a characteristic energy

00:39:00.865 --> 00:39:03.240 align:middle line:84%
that we're looking for with
our spectrometer, we can say,

00:39:03.240 --> 00:39:07.580 align:middle line:90%
aha, this is from an impurity.

00:39:07.580 --> 00:39:10.180 align:middle line:84%
And now, the invisible
impurities are visible again.

00:39:10.180 --> 00:39:12.900 align:middle line:90%


00:39:12.900 --> 00:39:14.840 align:middle line:84%
So there are a
few things that we

00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.780 align:middle line:84%
can measure from charge exchange
recombination spectroscopy.

00:39:17.780 --> 00:39:22.070 align:middle line:84%
We can measure the density
of impurities from intensity.

00:39:22.070 --> 00:39:28.460 align:middle line:90%


00:39:28.460 --> 00:39:30.200 align:middle line:84%
So you need some
atomic models and you

00:39:30.200 --> 00:39:32.000 align:middle line:84%
need an absolute calibration
for your detector,

00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.208 align:middle line:84%
but you can work out the
density of these impurities.

00:39:34.208 --> 00:39:35.340 align:middle line:90%
That's pretty useful.

00:39:35.340 --> 00:39:39.590 align:middle line:84%
We can also measure
Vi and V flow

00:39:39.590 --> 00:39:54.520 align:middle line:84%
from the Doppler broadening and
the Doppler shift, respectively.

00:39:54.520 --> 00:39:56.580 align:middle line:84%
So as we discussed
in the spectroscopy

00:39:56.580 --> 00:39:58.680 align:middle line:84%
a few weeks ago--
or a week ago--

00:39:58.680 --> 00:40:01.410 align:middle line:84%
when we were talking about
different broadening mechanisms,

00:40:01.410 --> 00:40:03.690 align:middle line:84%
these effectively
can be the impurities

00:40:03.690 --> 00:40:07.180 align:middle line:84%
which are acting as a tracer
for the flow velocity.

00:40:07.180 --> 00:40:10.890 align:middle line:84%
So our bulk motion of the
entire plasma around the torus

00:40:10.890 --> 00:40:12.430 align:middle line:90%
and for the temperature.

00:40:12.430 --> 00:40:15.360 align:middle line:84%
And again, the reason
is that maybe you

00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.250 align:middle line:84%
could rely on impurity
that was very high Z

00:40:17.250 --> 00:40:19.260 align:middle line:84%
and still had some
electrons left.

00:40:19.260 --> 00:40:20.760 align:middle line:84%
But if you've done
a really good job

00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:22.590 align:middle line:84%
of reducing all of the
tungsten and nasty things

00:40:22.590 --> 00:40:24.923 align:middle line:84%
in your machine and all you're
left with oxygen, carbon,

00:40:24.923 --> 00:40:27.690 align:middle line:84%
and boron, then you need
to effectively give them

00:40:27.690 --> 00:40:30.280 align:middle line:84%
back an electron so you can
do spectroscopy on them.

00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.520 align:middle line:84%
And again, this is a
nice active diagnostic,

00:40:32.520 --> 00:40:35.520 align:middle line:84%
because you can localize the
region where the particles are

00:40:35.520 --> 00:40:37.980 align:middle line:84%
sitting in by putting
your spectrometer

00:40:37.980 --> 00:40:42.940 align:middle line:84%
perpendicular to the line of
sight of your neutral beam.

00:40:42.940 --> 00:40:47.890 align:middle line:84%
And again, you can localize
it to that region here.

00:40:47.890 --> 00:40:50.700 align:middle line:84%
So this gives you these
two, and they're all

00:40:50.700 --> 00:40:52.567 align:middle line:90%
localized measurements.

00:40:52.567 --> 00:41:08.170 align:middle line:90%


00:41:08.170 --> 00:41:10.225 align:middle line:90%
There can be problems with this.

00:41:10.225 --> 00:41:12.870 align:middle line:90%


00:41:12.870 --> 00:41:19.160 align:middle line:84%
So one issue is, you get charge
exchange with edge impurities.

00:41:19.160 --> 00:41:26.640 align:middle line:90%


00:41:26.640 --> 00:41:28.560 align:middle line:84%
I know I said this
measurement localizes this,

00:41:28.560 --> 00:41:30.060 align:middle line:84%
but you could imagine
that you could

00:41:30.060 --> 00:41:35.040 align:middle line:84%
get light reflecting from here
go back down into your detector.

00:41:35.040 --> 00:41:38.580 align:middle line:84%
And you can also just have
background, so something

00:41:38.580 --> 00:41:44.110 align:middle line:84%
like Bremsstrahlung radiation,
at this photon energy.

00:41:44.110 --> 00:41:46.960 align:middle line:84%
And because there's not so
many impurities, we hope,

00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:49.450 align:middle line:84%
and not so many of them are
charged exchanges neutral beam,

00:41:49.450 --> 00:41:51.350 align:middle line:84%
the signal could
be relatively weak.

00:41:51.350 --> 00:41:57.460 align:middle line:84%
So there's Bremsstrahlung at
the photon energy of the charge

00:41:57.460 --> 00:41:59.260 align:middle line:90%
exchange with impurities.

00:41:59.260 --> 00:42:02.210 align:middle line:84%
That could be a
significant amount.

00:42:02.210 --> 00:42:04.810 align:middle line:84%
So we may not be able to see
this signal very clearly.

00:42:04.810 --> 00:42:09.587 align:middle line:84%
So a really neat trick that you
can do is to modulate the beam.

00:42:09.587 --> 00:42:16.050 align:middle line:90%


00:42:16.050 --> 00:42:22.300 align:middle line:84%
So you take the intensity
of your neutral beam

00:42:22.300 --> 00:42:27.310 align:middle line:84%
and you just turn it
on and off like that.

00:42:27.310 --> 00:42:32.220 align:middle line:84%
And then when you
look at the intensity

00:42:32.220 --> 00:42:35.790 align:middle line:84%
at this specific wavelength
that you're on the lookout for,

00:42:35.790 --> 00:42:42.620 align:middle line:84%
you should see that there's
maybe some background,

00:42:42.620 --> 00:42:46.010 align:middle line:84%
but that background is being
modulated by the neutral beam.

00:42:46.010 --> 00:42:48.110 align:middle line:84%
And then you can do tricks
like phase-locked loops

00:42:48.110 --> 00:42:50.690 align:middle line:84%
and all your other favorite
Fourier transform techniques,

00:42:50.690 --> 00:42:53.420 align:middle line:84%
and you can isolate out
which part of this signal

00:42:53.420 --> 00:42:57.970 align:middle line:84%
is actually due
to charge exchange

00:42:57.970 --> 00:43:02.990 align:middle line:84%
and which parts of the
signal is due to BREMS.

00:43:02.990 --> 00:43:04.250 align:middle line:90%
That's pretty neat.

00:43:04.250 --> 00:43:09.190 align:middle line:90%
OK, questions on this?

00:43:09.190 --> 00:43:09.690 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

00:43:09.690 --> 00:43:16.982 align:middle line:90%


00:43:16.982 --> 00:43:24.340 align:middle line:84%
So theoretically, we have
just a single line like this.

00:43:24.340 --> 00:43:26.080 align:middle line:84%
If all the particles
were stationary

00:43:26.080 --> 00:43:28.510 align:middle line:84%
and the temperature
was 0, all the

00:43:28.510 --> 00:43:30.230 align:middle line:84%
particles moving
at the same speed.

00:43:30.230 --> 00:43:32.620 align:middle line:84%
And we just have
a line at omega 0.

00:43:32.620 --> 00:43:36.470 align:middle line:84%
If all the particles are
moving in the same direction,

00:43:36.470 --> 00:43:42.460 align:middle line:84%
this will be Doppler shifted,
and that Doppler shift

00:43:42.460 --> 00:43:46.930 align:middle line:84%
would be adopted into
the flow velocity.

00:43:46.930 --> 00:43:50.297 align:middle line:84%
And if we have some
broadening on top of that,

00:43:50.297 --> 00:43:52.130 align:middle line:84%
because we've got
non-zero temperature, some

00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:53.270 align:middle line:84%
of the particles--
although they're all

00:43:53.270 --> 00:43:54.170 align:middle line:90%
moving in one direction.

00:43:54.170 --> 00:43:55.878 align:middle line:84%
Some of them are moving
back a little bit

00:43:55.878 --> 00:43:57.140 align:middle line:90%
and some are moving forwards.

00:43:57.140 --> 00:44:00.320 align:middle line:84%
And then the width
of this feature,

00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:05.720 align:middle line:84%
full width of half maximum,
is proportional to VTi, which

00:44:05.720 --> 00:44:08.030 align:middle line:90%
is square root of temperature.

00:44:08.030 --> 00:44:09.913 align:middle line:84%
So you measure the
shift of the feature

00:44:09.913 --> 00:44:11.330 align:middle line:84%
and the broadening
of the feature.

00:44:11.330 --> 00:44:14.354 align:middle line:84%
That gives you the velocity and
the temperature-independent.

00:44:14.354 --> 00:44:18.050 align:middle line:90%


00:44:18.050 --> 00:44:19.268 align:middle line:90%
Any other questions?

00:44:19.268 --> 00:44:22.615 align:middle line:90%


00:44:22.615 --> 00:44:23.490 align:middle line:90%
Any questions online?

00:44:23.490 --> 00:44:32.290 align:middle line:90%


00:44:32.290 --> 00:44:33.385 align:middle line:90%
OK, next topic.

00:44:33.385 --> 00:44:41.940 align:middle line:90%


00:44:41.940 --> 00:44:44.877 align:middle line:84%
There are yet more fun things
you can do with a neutral beam.

00:44:44.877 --> 00:44:45.960 align:middle line:90%
Who would have thought it?

00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:59.195 align:middle line:90%


00:44:59.195 --> 00:45:01.070 align:middle line:84%
Next fun thing you can
do with a neutral beam

00:45:01.070 --> 00:45:17.535 align:middle line:84%
is something called beam
emission spectroscopy, BES.

00:45:17.535 --> 00:45:22.010 align:middle line:90%


00:45:22.010 --> 00:45:30.490 align:middle line:84%
The idea here-- once again,
vacuum chamber, plasma,

00:45:30.490 --> 00:45:31.210 align:middle line:90%
neutral beam.

00:45:31.210 --> 00:45:34.050 align:middle line:90%


00:45:34.050 --> 00:45:36.600 align:middle line:84%
As the beam goes through
the plasma, remember,

00:45:36.600 --> 00:45:39.630 align:middle line:84%
our beam is going to be
hydrogen or deuterium

00:45:39.630 --> 00:45:41.100 align:middle line:90%
or something like that.

00:45:41.100 --> 00:45:43.822 align:middle line:84%
The neutrals inside here--
and these are all neutrals.

00:45:43.822 --> 00:45:45.780 align:middle line:84%
So I'll just put a little
0 to remind ourselves

00:45:45.780 --> 00:45:47.280 align:middle line:90%
they're neutrals--

00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.200 align:middle line:84%
will have some
glancing collisions

00:45:49.200 --> 00:45:51.930 align:middle line:84%
with the electrons and ions--
not enough to ionize them.

00:45:51.930 --> 00:45:53.820 align:middle line:84%
Some of the collisions
will ionize them.

00:45:53.820 --> 00:45:57.270 align:middle line:84%
But some of the collisions
will be enough to excite these.

00:45:57.270 --> 00:45:59.250 align:middle line:84%
And so we'll end
up inside our beam

00:45:59.250 --> 00:46:05.490 align:middle line:84%
with excited neutral hydrogen
and excited neutral deuterium

00:46:05.490 --> 00:46:07.890 align:middle line:90%
or something like that.

00:46:07.890 --> 00:46:12.970 align:middle line:84%
And we can then put our
spectrometer down here

00:46:12.970 --> 00:46:14.920 align:middle line:84%
or our detector down
here, and we can

00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:17.435 align:middle line:90%
look for the characteristic--

00:46:17.435 --> 00:46:19.060 align:middle line:84%
we actually have some
drawings of this.

00:46:19.060 --> 00:46:21.460 align:middle line:90%


00:46:21.460 --> 00:46:21.960 align:middle line:90%
No.

00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:22.470 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:46:22.470 --> 00:46:25.600 align:middle line:84%
We can look for these
characteristic decays here.

00:46:25.600 --> 00:46:27.240 align:middle line:84%
And if you remember
before, we talked

00:46:27.240 --> 00:46:31.960 align:middle line:84%
about the Lyman-alpha and -beta,
and the Balmer series, as well.

00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:33.960 align:middle line:84%
So we know very
well-defined what

00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:38.070 align:middle line:84%
these energies of the photons
coming out are going to be.

00:46:38.070 --> 00:46:44.720 align:middle line:84%
Now, the neat thing about this
is the intensity of these lines

00:46:44.720 --> 00:46:47.030 align:middle line:90%
is proportional to--

00:46:47.030 --> 00:46:48.922 align:middle line:90%
or is-- I'll make it stronger.

00:46:48.922 --> 00:46:51.130 align:middle line:84%
It's directly proportional
to the number of electrons

00:46:51.130 --> 00:46:55.540 align:middle line:84%
in the plasma, because this is
a collisional excitation process

00:46:55.540 --> 00:46:58.030 align:middle line:84%
and we know that that
is proportional to Ne,

00:46:58.030 --> 00:47:02.920 align:middle line:84%
and then whatever the relevant
collisional excitation

00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:03.910 align:middle line:90%
cross-section is.

00:47:03.910 --> 00:47:04.450 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:47:04.450 --> 00:47:09.150 align:middle line:84%
But the main thing is it's
proportional to the density.

00:47:09.150 --> 00:47:14.810 align:middle line:84%
So the neat thing is if I now
have density fluctuations--

00:47:14.810 --> 00:47:16.780 align:middle line:84%
so this is-- we've got
some background density,

00:47:16.780 --> 00:47:19.490 align:middle line:84%
but the density is
fluctuating on top of that.

00:47:19.490 --> 00:47:25.660 align:middle line:84%
So Ne 0 plus delta
Ne of T. Then that's

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going to give me an intensity
fluctuation as well.

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So by carefully measuring the
intensity of these lines--

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and again, we can localize
this relatively well

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because I have a specific
field of view for my detector

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and I know where this beam
emission is coming from.

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So I can localize it
to a little region.

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I could have multiple detectors.

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And I could have another
one looking here.

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I can measure
density fluctuations

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in very precise regions here.

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And density fluctuations
are very important,

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especially in magnetic
confinement fusion,

00:48:01.510 --> 00:48:04.570 align:middle line:84%
because these fluctuations
lead to transport--

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turbulent transport.

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So we really, really want
to be able to [INAUDIBLE].

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So beam emission
spectroscopy, I think

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this is the only
slide I have on this.

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Yes.

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Well, I have another
one that's related.

00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:18.450 align:middle line:90%
This is a very cool technique.

00:48:18.450 --> 00:48:23.450 align:middle line:84%
The trouble is that
what I just said here

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about just being
proportional to density here,

00:48:25.460 --> 00:48:27.600 align:middle line:90%
this is rather simple.

00:48:27.600 --> 00:48:30.060 align:middle line:84%
It's not actually
true in reality.

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So what we actually
have to do is

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include all relevant processes.

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This is going back to
spectroscopy again,

00:48:41.340 --> 00:48:44.750 align:middle line:84%
where if you're not quite
in a simple equilibrium,

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you need to include
lots more processes.

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And you also need to include
the beams' attenuation,

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because of course, the point
of launching a neutral beam

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into your system is not to hit
the far wall of your vacuum

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chamber and melt it,
but it's actually

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to charge exchange
with the plasma

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and heat it and drive current.

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So this beam is going to be
getting less and less intense

00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:11.958 align:middle line:90%
as it goes through the plasma.

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And so if you want to
do all this properly,

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you also need to track
the beam attenuation,

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because this density is also
proportional to the number

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of beam particles
as well-- the number

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density of beam particles.

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So we need to track
the beam attenuation.

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But if you can do that,
this is potentially

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a very powerful
diagnostic for measuring

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density fluctuations,
which are otherwise

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quite challenging to measure.

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Questions on beam
emission spectroscopy?

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AUDIENCE: Professor?

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JACK HARE: Yes.

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AUDIENCE: So do you need to
specialize or neutral beam

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for these kind of
readings, or is

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this something you can do
while using the neutral beam

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as a heating source already?

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JACK HARE: Yes.

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The nice thing about
all of these things

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is you tend to just be able to
use your standard neutral beam.

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So some people do
have specifically

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made diagnostic neutral beams.

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So on eta, they have several
neutral beams specifically

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designed for heating,
and they also

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have diagnostic neutral beams.

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So the heating beams are
up at megaelectronvolts,

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and the diagnostic beam
is at a lower energy.

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And I believe that
lower energy is

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because it gives you better
cross-sections for all

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of these processes.

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So I'm not sure.

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An amusing example
of that is that there

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was a diagnostic neutral beam
developed for the National

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Compact Stellarator
Experiment at Princeton,

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which was canceled.

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And that diagnostic
neutral beam then

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went on to be the
heating neutral beam

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for a much smaller device.

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So you can build a
diagnostic neutral beam,

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but at the end of the day,
it's still a neutral beam.

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It can do whatever
you normally want.

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And this is going to
be coming in at 300 keV

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or whatever energy
you can generate.

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And all these processes
are going to be happening.

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And the fact that the beam slows
down and converts into ions

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and does all the
heating relies on all

00:50:53.450 --> 00:50:55.760 align:middle line:84%
of the same atomic
processes that we then

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use to observe beam emission
spectroscopy and charge exchange

00:50:58.335 --> 00:50:59.460 align:middle line:90%
and all that sort of stuff.

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So those processes have to
happen for the beam to work.

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And now, you're just observing
the obvious consequence

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of them occurring.

00:51:05.570 --> 00:51:06.675 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, good question.

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AUDIENCE: Great, thank you.

00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:08.925 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Other questions?

00:51:08.925 --> 00:51:20.740 align:middle line:90%


00:51:20.740 --> 00:51:24.175 align:middle line:84%
Now we're going
to be done early.

00:51:24.175 --> 00:51:26.410 align:middle line:84%
The final thing, as we
discussed it the other day,

00:51:26.410 --> 00:51:28.120 align:middle line:84%
is the motional stark
effect, which I'd

00:51:28.120 --> 00:51:29.750 align:middle line:90%
forgotten was to do with this.

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And in fact, I was looking
through my notes today

00:51:31.150 --> 00:51:33.638 align:middle line:84%
and I was like, oh, I actually
wrote several pages of notes

00:51:33.638 --> 00:51:35.680 align:middle line:84%
on the motional stark
effect and then told people

00:51:35.680 --> 00:51:37.100 align:middle line:90%
I had no idea what it was.

00:51:37.100 --> 00:51:38.830 align:middle line:84%
So that just shows
how good my memory is.

00:51:38.830 --> 00:51:41.072 align:middle line:84%
So now, you will
have the pleasure

00:51:41.072 --> 00:51:43.030 align:middle line:84%
of learning about and
then instantly forgetting

00:51:43.030 --> 00:51:44.870 align:middle line:90%
about the motional stark effect.

00:51:44.870 --> 00:51:46.120 align:middle line:90%
No, it's actually really cool.

00:51:46.120 --> 00:51:54.860 align:middle line:90%


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This is often
abbreviated as MSE.

00:51:57.230 --> 00:52:00.210 align:middle line:90%


00:52:00.210 --> 00:52:04.498 align:middle line:84%
So we already talked
about the stark effect.

00:52:04.498 --> 00:52:06.290 align:middle line:84%
And in the stark effect,
we said that there

00:52:06.290 --> 00:52:08.315 align:middle line:90%
was an electric field.

00:52:08.315 --> 00:52:09.690 align:middle line:84%
And I'm going to
continue writing

00:52:09.690 --> 00:52:11.430 align:middle line:84%
electric with this
weird curly E's

00:52:11.430 --> 00:52:14.160 align:middle line:84%
because we're going to have some
capital E's for energy later

00:52:14.160 --> 00:52:16.000 align:middle line:84%
and don't want us
to get confused.

00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:22.560 align:middle line:84%
So this is the electric
field, which shifts

00:52:22.560 --> 00:52:29.010 align:middle line:90%
the energy levels of some atom.

00:52:29.010 --> 00:52:32.963 align:middle line:90%


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So we could do this
just in a laboratory

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with a strong electric
field and a neutral gas.

00:52:36.588 --> 00:52:39.330 align:middle line:90%


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And we then considered what
this does inside a plasma.

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So in a plasma, we have lots
of electrons moving around,

00:52:49.260 --> 00:52:50.190 align:middle line:90%
as we said.

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And those electrons will
be colliding with our ions,

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so our atoms that
have bound electrons.

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And as those
electrons get close,

00:52:58.180 --> 00:53:01.440 align:middle line:84%
they will be shifting
the electric field,

00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.360 align:middle line:84%
and therefore, the energy level
in the vicinity that atom.

00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:07.680 align:middle line:84%
So we saw there
that we got a change

00:53:07.680 --> 00:53:11.910 align:middle line:84%
in the energy of the
photons being emitted, which

00:53:11.910 --> 00:53:15.420 align:middle line:84%
was proportional to
the electric field.

00:53:15.420 --> 00:53:18.390 align:middle line:84%
And that electric field
was proportional to density

00:53:18.390 --> 00:53:19.230 align:middle line:90%
for the 1/3.

00:53:19.230 --> 00:53:23.520 align:middle line:84%
And this was just an electric
field 1 over r squared argument.

00:53:23.520 --> 00:53:26.610 align:middle line:90%
This should be 2/3.

00:53:26.610 --> 00:53:28.480 align:middle line:90%
There we go.

00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:30.570 align:middle line:90%
And this was from collisions.

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But this whole picture here
required a thermal plasma

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with lots of particles moving
in all sorts of ways here.

00:53:46.590 --> 00:53:48.050 align:middle line:84%
So this was with
the distribution

00:53:48.050 --> 00:53:53.890 align:middle line:84%
f of V Ve that was
exponential of, I don't know,

00:53:53.890 --> 00:54:00.500 align:middle line:84%
minus V squared over
V thermal e squared.

00:54:00.500 --> 00:54:06.670 align:middle line:84%
But in this case here,
for a neutral beam,

00:54:06.670 --> 00:54:09.260 align:middle line:84%
we have a very peaked
distribution function.

00:54:09.260 --> 00:54:17.220 align:middle line:84%
So our distribution
of neutral beam ions

00:54:17.220 --> 00:54:19.440 align:middle line:90%
is roughly a delta function.

00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:20.850 align:middle line:90%
So they're all at VB.

00:54:20.850 --> 00:54:24.090 align:middle line:90%


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So we don't expect
to see a broadening.

00:54:26.430 --> 00:54:28.650 align:middle line:84%
What we would expect
to see, maybe,

00:54:28.650 --> 00:54:32.310 align:middle line:84%
is some sort of shift
in a single direction

00:54:32.310 --> 00:54:35.930 align:middle line:84%
here but where is the
electric field coming up

00:54:35.930 --> 00:54:38.690 align:middle line:84%
from in a plasma like this,
where we're just talking

00:54:38.690 --> 00:54:39.925 align:middle line:90%
about our particles moving?

00:54:39.925 --> 00:54:42.050 align:middle line:84%
Because here, we argued
this was the electric field

00:54:42.050 --> 00:54:44.270 align:middle line:84%
from particles close in
within the Debye sphere.

00:54:44.270 --> 00:54:47.370 align:middle line:84%
But on large scales, we don't
see this electric field.

00:54:47.370 --> 00:54:50.210 align:middle line:84%
But what we do have
is a magnetic field.

00:54:50.210 --> 00:54:54.210 align:middle line:84%
We have a magnetic
field B, like this.

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And so we have
some beam velocity

00:54:59.870 --> 00:55:04.540 align:middle line:84%
V cross B. And in the frame
of the particle, that creates

00:55:04.540 --> 00:55:07.840 align:middle line:84%
an electric field, which is
equal to minus V cross B.

00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.420 align:middle line:84%
So this is our
Lorentz transform.

00:55:10.420 --> 00:55:17.410 align:middle line:90%


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So in the frame
of the lab we see

00:55:19.210 --> 00:55:21.370 align:middle line:84%
particles moving
with velocity V beam,

00:55:21.370 --> 00:55:22.645 align:middle line:90%
and we see a magnetic field.

00:55:22.645 --> 00:55:25.640 align:middle line:90%


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But in the frame
of the particle,

00:55:27.350 --> 00:55:29.948 align:middle line:84%
when we do the Lorentz
transformation,

00:55:29.948 --> 00:55:31.490 align:middle line:84%
the particle, of
course, doesn't know

00:55:31.490 --> 00:55:33.820 align:middle line:90%
it's moving within its frame.

00:55:33.820 --> 00:55:35.920 align:middle line:84%
And instead of seeing
a magnetic field,

00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:40.360 align:middle line:84%
it sees this electric
field instead.

00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:42.310 align:middle line:84%
And so that means
that now, we're

00:55:42.310 --> 00:55:46.030 align:middle line:84%
expecting to get energy
shifts delta e, which

00:55:46.030 --> 00:55:51.060 align:middle line:84%
are, again, proportional to the
electric field, which are now

00:55:51.060 --> 00:55:59.970 align:middle line:84%
proportional to V cross B.
And I just want to point out--

00:55:59.970 --> 00:56:02.268 align:middle line:84%
and Hutchinson goes into
this in some detail--

00:56:02.268 --> 00:56:03.810 align:middle line:84%
we've assumed here
that we're talking

00:56:03.810 --> 00:56:07.660 align:middle line:90%
about the linear stark effect.

00:56:07.660 --> 00:56:10.250 align:middle line:84%
And depending on
exactly what's going on

00:56:10.250 --> 00:56:11.800 align:middle line:84%
you may need more
complicated things

00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:13.190 align:middle line:90%
like the quadratic stark effect.

00:56:13.190 --> 00:56:15.220 align:middle line:84%
But this is the
linear stark effect.

00:56:15.220 --> 00:56:18.310 align:middle line:84%
It turns out the linear
stark effect is good

00:56:18.310 --> 00:56:20.425 align:middle line:90%
when this delta E is large.

00:56:20.425 --> 00:56:24.120 align:middle line:90%


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So as long as you have
sufficiently large

00:56:25.910 --> 00:56:27.902 align:middle line:84%
magnetic fields and
beam velocities, then

00:56:27.902 --> 00:56:29.360 align:middle line:84%
you end up with
this linear regime,

00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:35.415 align:middle line:84%
which is much easier
to analyze here OK.

00:56:35.415 --> 00:56:36.790 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to erase
this because I

00:56:36.790 --> 00:56:38.082 align:middle line:90%
want to keep that on the board.

00:56:38.082 --> 00:56:52.220 align:middle line:90%


00:56:52.220 --> 00:56:57.570 align:middle line:84%
Now, some voodoo magic
happens, and we find out

00:56:57.570 --> 00:57:02.260 align:middle line:84%
that each energy level splits
into multiple energy levels.

00:57:02.260 --> 00:57:05.280 align:middle line:84%
So this is reminiscent of
the Zeeman splitting again.

00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:09.390 align:middle line:84%
So each energy level splits into
energy levels whose energy is

00:57:09.390 --> 00:57:12.550 align:middle line:90%
given by 3nK.

00:57:12.550 --> 00:57:16.030 align:middle line:84%
I'll explain what all of these
symbols mean in a moment.

00:57:16.030 --> 00:57:28.560 align:middle line:84%
Electric fields over ze over
4 pi epsilon 0 A0 squared.

00:57:28.560 --> 00:57:30.090 align:middle line:84%
I haven't got, in
my notes, what A0,

00:57:30.090 --> 00:57:32.423 align:middle line:84%
is and I've forgotten what
it is off the top of my head.

00:57:32.423 --> 00:57:35.430 align:middle line:90%
So that's not very useful.

00:57:35.430 --> 00:57:38.590 align:middle line:84%
Some constant is the
most important thing.

00:57:38.590 --> 00:57:42.610 align:middle line:84%
All this times the Rydberg
energy, which you all remember

00:57:42.610 --> 00:57:46.180 align:middle line:90%
is 13.6 electron volts.

00:57:46.180 --> 00:57:52.810 align:middle line:84%
And this electric field is
V cross B modulus of it.

00:57:52.810 --> 00:57:56.545 align:middle line:84%
OK, so n here is
the quantum number.

00:57:56.545 --> 00:58:01.240 align:middle line:90%


00:58:01.240 --> 00:58:04.540 align:middle line:90%
n equals 1, 2, 3.

00:58:04.540 --> 00:58:07.270 align:middle line:84%
And K, here for each
quantum number n,

00:58:07.270 --> 00:58:14.230 align:middle line:84%
can take multiple values,
K equals 0 plus or minus 1,

00:58:14.230 --> 00:58:23.260 align:middle line:84%
plus or minus 2 up to
plus or minus n minus 1.

00:58:23.260 --> 00:58:26.290 align:middle line:84%
So for n equals 1, K can
only take the value 0.

00:58:26.290 --> 00:58:28.090 align:middle line:84%
At n equals 2, it can
take three values.

00:58:28.090 --> 00:58:31.210 align:middle line:84%
At n equals 3, it can take
five values like this.

00:58:31.210 --> 00:58:33.830 align:middle line:90%


00:58:33.830 --> 00:58:35.980 align:middle line:84%
And because these energy
levels are all split--

00:58:35.980 --> 00:58:38.350 align:middle line:84%
and I'll draw some
now so that you get

00:58:38.350 --> 00:58:39.625 align:middle line:90%
some feel for what's going on.

00:58:39.625 --> 00:58:42.390 align:middle line:90%


00:58:42.390 --> 00:58:45.470 align:middle line:84%
Let's see if I've got
space to do it here.

00:58:45.470 --> 00:58:57.050 align:middle line:84%
We start out with n equals
1, n equals 2, n equals 3.

00:58:57.050 --> 00:59:00.740 align:middle line:84%
This n equals 1 will just be
split when n equals 1 level.

00:59:00.740 --> 00:59:04.460 align:middle line:84%
The n equals 2 will be
split to three levels.

00:59:04.460 --> 00:59:08.105 align:middle line:84%
And the n equals 3, we
split to five levels.

00:59:08.105 --> 00:59:12.340 align:middle line:90%


00:59:12.340 --> 00:59:13.990 align:middle line:84%
And each of these
levels is going

00:59:13.990 --> 00:59:18.510 align:middle line:84%
to have an energy, delta
E, between them, which

00:59:18.510 --> 00:59:20.440 align:middle line:90%
is given by this formula here.

00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:22.470 align:middle line:84%
And so by measuring
this splitting,

00:59:22.470 --> 00:59:25.590 align:middle line:84%
we can measure the
magnetic field,

00:59:25.590 --> 00:59:28.292 align:middle line:84%
because most of the stuff
in here is just a constant.

00:59:28.292 --> 00:59:31.000 align:middle line:84%
We should know our beam velocity
because we're the ones injecting

00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:31.800 align:middle line:90%
the neutral beam.

00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:33.420 align:middle line:84%
So the only thing
we don't know is

00:59:33.420 --> 00:59:36.440 align:middle line:90%
the size of the magnetic field.

00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:40.715 align:middle line:90%
So we could try and use--

00:59:40.715 --> 00:59:42.340 align:middle line:84%
so again, this is
still a neutral beam,

00:59:42.340 --> 00:59:43.640 align:middle line:90%
so we've got one electron.

00:59:43.640 --> 00:59:46.480 align:middle line:84%
So we could try and look
at transitions from here

00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:48.770 align:middle line:90%
down to here.

00:59:48.770 --> 00:59:52.880 align:middle line:84%
And there should be a triplet
of transitions all coming out

00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:54.440 align:middle line:84%
with slightly
different energies.

00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:56.458 align:middle line:84%
What is the problem
with using this?

00:59:56.458 --> 00:59:58.250 align:middle line:84%
first of all, does
anyone remember the name

00:59:58.250 --> 01:00:00.710 align:middle line:84%
for this transition, and what's
the problem with using it?

01:00:00.710 --> 01:00:07.060 align:middle line:90%


01:00:07.060 --> 01:00:08.710 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Is it a
forbidden transition?

01:00:08.710 --> 01:00:10.752 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: It's not
forbidden, but good question.

01:00:10.752 --> 01:00:15.730 align:middle line:90%


01:00:15.730 --> 01:00:21.100 align:middle line:84%
Hydrogen. Transition
from the first excited

01:00:21.100 --> 01:00:24.850 align:middle line:84%
state down to the ground
state is the Lyman-alpha.

01:00:24.850 --> 01:00:28.050 align:middle line:90%


01:00:28.050 --> 01:00:32.140 align:middle line:84%
What's the wavelength
of the Lyman-alpha?

01:00:32.140 --> 01:00:34.330 align:middle line:90%
Yeah it's 121 nanometers.

01:00:34.330 --> 01:00:37.370 align:middle line:90%


01:00:37.370 --> 01:00:39.915 align:middle line:84%
So this is what's called
vacuum ultraviolet.

01:00:39.915 --> 01:00:42.040 align:middle line:84%
And the reason it's called
vacuum ultraviolet is it

01:00:42.040 --> 01:00:43.340 align:middle line:90%
only propagates in a vacuum.

01:00:43.340 --> 01:00:44.720 align:middle line:84%
So it's a real
pain to deal with.

01:00:44.720 --> 01:00:47.620 align:middle line:84%
So we don't want to work
with this transition here.

01:00:47.620 --> 01:00:51.100 align:middle line:84%
Instead, what we want to do
is use a transition from n

01:00:51.100 --> 01:00:52.957 align:middle line:90%
equals 3 down to n equals 2.

01:00:52.957 --> 01:00:54.415 align:middle line:84%
What's the name of
this transition?

01:00:54.415 --> 01:00:57.150 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: H-alpha BALMER

01:00:57.150 --> 01:00:59.990 align:middle line:90%


01:00:59.990 --> 01:01:01.820 align:middle line:90%
JACK HARE: Yeah, H-alpha BALMER.

01:01:01.820 --> 01:01:06.220 align:middle line:90%


01:01:06.220 --> 01:01:08.890 align:middle line:84%
This is where the forbidden
transitions that were mentioned

01:01:08.890 --> 01:01:09.860 align:middle line:90%
come in here.

01:01:09.860 --> 01:01:13.210 align:middle line:84%
So these have an angular
momentum quantum number

01:01:13.210 --> 01:01:21.850 align:middle line:84%
nm of 210 minus 1 minus 2,
1, 0, minus 1 like this.

01:01:21.850 --> 01:01:25.120 align:middle line:84%
And the selection rule
for these that tells you

01:01:25.120 --> 01:01:28.300 align:middle line:84%
whether this transition is
forbidden or not is delta m

01:01:28.300 --> 01:01:30.777 align:middle line:90%
is equal to--

01:01:30.777 --> 01:01:32.110 align:middle line:90%
have I got it written down here?

01:01:32.110 --> 01:01:35.340 align:middle line:90%


01:01:35.340 --> 01:01:36.240 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:01:36.240 --> 01:01:38.010 align:middle line:90%
0 and plus or minus 1.

01:01:38.010 --> 01:01:40.850 align:middle line:90%


01:01:40.850 --> 01:01:45.060 align:middle line:84%
So from any given level here,
for this one, for example,

01:01:45.060 --> 01:01:47.660 align:middle line:84%
the m equals 0 and
the n equals 3,

01:01:47.660 --> 01:01:53.090 align:middle line:84%
we can have a transition
down to 0, down to minus 1,

01:01:53.090 --> 01:01:54.650 align:middle line:90%
and down to 1.

01:01:54.650 --> 01:01:56.300 align:middle line:84%
We get a triplet
of lines from that.

01:01:56.300 --> 01:01:58.550 align:middle line:84%
We'll also get
another set of lines--

01:01:58.550 --> 01:02:00.800 align:middle line:84%
you can see this starts to
get quite complicated quite

01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:01.520 align:middle line:90%
quickly--

01:02:01.520 --> 01:02:04.217 align:middle line:90%
like this.

01:02:04.217 --> 01:02:05.800 align:middle line:84%
There is no transition
down to minus 2

01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:07.010 align:middle line:90%
because it doesn't exist.

01:02:07.010 --> 01:02:12.720 align:middle line:84%
And then finally, we'll have--
well, the minus 2, could guess,

01:02:12.720 --> 01:02:13.785 align:middle line:90%
can go to minus 1.

01:02:13.785 --> 01:02:16.800 align:middle line:90%


01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:27.190 align:middle line:84%
And the m equals 1 can
go down to m equals 0.

01:02:27.190 --> 01:02:29.410 align:middle line:90%
And m equals 1--

01:02:29.410 --> 01:02:31.620 align:middle line:90%
I'm running out of colors--

01:02:31.620 --> 01:02:35.220 align:middle line:84%
and the m equals 2
can go down to here.

01:02:35.220 --> 01:02:35.730 align:middle line:90%
Sometimes.

01:02:35.730 --> 01:02:37.730 align:middle line:84%
So you see there's all
sorts of different lines.

01:02:37.730 --> 01:02:40.927 align:middle line:84%
But you notice that their
spacings of these levels

01:02:40.927 --> 01:02:42.510 align:middle line:84%
are the same as the
spacings of these.

01:02:42.510 --> 01:02:44.070 align:middle line:84%
No, it's not, because
n is different.

01:02:44.070 --> 01:02:46.898 align:middle line:84%
Yeah, you're going to get
clusters of different lines

01:02:46.898 --> 01:02:48.190 align:middle line:90%
at slightly different energies.

01:02:48.190 --> 01:02:49.830 align:middle line:84%
So you need a very
nice spectrometer

01:02:49.830 --> 01:02:52.090 align:middle line:84%
to be able to distinguish
between these lines.

01:02:52.090 --> 01:02:54.040 align:middle line:84%
So as you increase
the magnetic field,

01:02:54.040 --> 01:02:57.030 align:middle line:84%
the energy gap gets bigger, and
so you need a less and less nice

01:02:57.030 --> 01:02:57.780 align:middle line:90%
spectrometer.

01:02:57.780 --> 01:03:00.663 align:middle line:84%
So your resolution
requirements go down

01:03:00.663 --> 01:03:01.830 align:middle line:90%
for a bigger magnetic field.

01:03:01.830 --> 01:03:04.080 align:middle line:84%
But in general, you're going
to see a forest of lines.

01:03:04.080 --> 01:03:10.150 align:middle line:84%
You're going to see, instead of
just your h-alpha line that you

01:03:10.150 --> 01:03:12.700 align:middle line:84%
had originally,
you're going to get--

01:03:12.700 --> 01:03:16.460 align:middle line:84%
I'm not going to try and
draw this accurately--

01:03:16.460 --> 01:03:17.870 align:middle line:90%
a set of lines like this.

01:03:17.870 --> 01:03:21.080 align:middle line:84%
And then you might get
another line over up here,

01:03:21.080 --> 01:03:22.940 align:middle line:84%
and you might get
another line down here,

01:03:22.940 --> 01:03:24.440 align:middle line:84%
and all sorts of
things like that,

01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:28.310 align:middle line:84%
and other sets of triplets
and doublets different places.

01:03:28.310 --> 01:03:35.090 align:middle line:90%


01:03:35.090 --> 01:03:37.540 align:middle line:84%
If that's not quite
right, it's not completed.

01:03:37.540 --> 01:03:38.855 align:middle line:90%
OK, cool.

01:03:38.855 --> 01:03:41.600 align:middle line:90%


01:03:41.600 --> 01:03:42.980 align:middle line:90%
Why are we bothering with this?

01:03:42.980 --> 01:03:44.900 align:middle line:84%
This looks an awful lot
like Zeeman splitting.

01:03:44.900 --> 01:03:47.270 align:middle line:84%
Couldn't we have just
done Zeeman splitting?

01:03:47.270 --> 01:03:50.720 align:middle line:84%
So the main thing about
this is this delta E

01:03:50.720 --> 01:03:53.724 align:middle line:84%
is much, much larger
than we get for Zeeman.

01:03:53.724 --> 01:04:00.990 align:middle line:90%


01:04:00.990 --> 01:04:03.580 align:middle line:84%
By "much, much larger,"
I about 10 times larger.

01:04:03.580 --> 01:04:06.300 align:middle line:84%
So it's much easier to
distinguish between the lines.

01:04:06.300 --> 01:04:11.640 align:middle line:84%
And once again, we can use our
neutral beam that we already

01:04:11.640 --> 01:04:13.090 align:middle line:90%
have to do this.

01:04:13.090 --> 01:04:15.570 align:middle line:84%
So this is a very nice
use of a neutral beam.

01:04:15.570 --> 01:04:18.990 align:middle line:84%
Now, we talked about,
with Zeeman before,

01:04:18.990 --> 01:04:20.760 align:middle line:84%
it's not actually
super useful to be

01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:23.910 align:middle line:84%
able to measure the strength of
a magnetic field in a tokamak,

01:04:23.910 --> 01:04:25.115 align:middle line:90%
because we know what it is.

01:04:25.115 --> 01:04:26.490 align:middle line:84%
It's the toroidal
magnetic field.

01:04:26.490 --> 01:04:29.020 align:middle line:84%
Basically, the poloidal
magnetic field is very small.

01:04:29.020 --> 01:04:31.620 align:middle line:84%
So this is our condition
that the poloidal

01:04:31.620 --> 01:04:34.470 align:middle line:84%
is much, much less
than the toroidal

01:04:34.470 --> 01:04:36.180 align:middle line:90%
that we have in a tokamak.

01:04:36.180 --> 01:04:38.550 align:middle line:84%
And the nice thing
about this is that each

01:04:38.550 --> 01:04:41.640 align:middle line:84%
of these different transitions
has a different polarization.

01:04:41.640 --> 01:04:44.140 align:middle line:84%
And this is going back to what
we were talking about before,

01:04:44.140 --> 01:04:47.910 align:middle line:84%
where we had these high
polarizations and sigma

01:04:47.910 --> 01:04:49.260 align:middle line:90%
polarizations.

01:04:49.260 --> 01:04:51.310 align:middle line:84%
And I'm running out
of room to draw it.

01:04:51.310 --> 01:04:53.640 align:middle line:84%
But if you go back
to the notes that we

01:04:53.640 --> 01:04:57.690 align:middle line:84%
had on Zeeman spectroscopy here,
this polarization, for example,

01:04:57.690 --> 01:04:58.305 align:middle line:90%
will come out.

01:04:58.305 --> 01:05:14.910 align:middle line:90%


01:05:14.910 --> 01:05:17.010 align:middle line:84%
We've got some
magnetic fields here,

01:05:17.010 --> 01:05:21.530 align:middle line:84%
which is the toroidal field
plus the poloidal field.

01:05:21.530 --> 01:05:30.020 align:middle line:84%
We'll have the pi polarization
coming out of the plasma

01:05:30.020 --> 01:05:34.920 align:middle line:84%
perpendicular to B. And we'll
have the stigma polarizations

01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:41.300 align:middle line:84%
coming out parallel
to B. So by having

01:05:41.300 --> 01:05:44.030 align:middle line:84%
two spectrometers with
two different polarizers

01:05:44.030 --> 01:05:46.340 align:middle line:84%
cross of each other and
measuring the relative strength

01:05:46.340 --> 01:05:48.260 align:middle line:84%
of these two lines,
you can actually

01:05:48.260 --> 01:05:51.030 align:middle line:84%
determine the angle
of the magnetic field.

01:05:51.030 --> 01:05:54.110 align:middle line:84%
And then from that, you can work
out the size of this B poloidal

01:05:54.110 --> 01:05:54.890 align:middle line:90%
component.

01:05:54.890 --> 01:05:57.630 align:middle line:90%


01:05:57.630 --> 01:05:59.490 align:middle line:84%
And from the B
poloidal component,

01:05:59.490 --> 01:06:01.980 align:middle line:84%
you can start to
guess at distribution

01:06:01.980 --> 01:06:05.420 align:middle line:84%
of current inside your
tokamak, which is very, very

01:06:05.420 --> 01:06:07.920 align:middle line:84%
important, especially when we're
doing things like bootstrap

01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:11.010 align:middle line:84%
current, where we need very
specific current profiles

01:06:11.010 --> 01:06:12.540 align:middle line:90%
in order to induce it.

01:06:12.540 --> 01:06:16.670 align:middle line:84%
So basically,
emotional stark effect

01:06:16.670 --> 01:06:21.170 align:middle line:84%
here is very useful for
magnetic reconstruction.

01:06:21.170 --> 01:06:33.830 align:middle line:90%


01:06:33.830 --> 01:06:34.550 align:middle line:90%
Questions?

01:06:34.550 --> 01:06:38.570 align:middle line:90%


01:06:38.570 --> 01:06:39.805 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

01:06:39.805 --> 01:06:45.190 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Is [INAUDIBLE]
always there [INAUDIBLE]?

01:06:45.190 --> 01:06:47.770 align:middle line:84%
JACK HARE: So the
Zeeman effect requires

01:06:47.770 --> 01:06:50.110 align:middle line:84%
certain electronic
configurations

01:06:50.110 --> 01:06:51.470 align:middle line:90%
to actually occur.

01:06:51.470 --> 01:06:54.460 align:middle line:84%
And I believe that you don't get
Zeeman splitting in hydrogen,

01:06:54.460 --> 01:06:55.310 align:middle line:90%
normally.

01:06:55.310 --> 01:06:57.640 align:middle line:84%
So this motional stark
effect is therefore

01:06:57.640 --> 01:07:01.120 align:middle line:90%
more useful in that case.

01:07:01.120 --> 01:07:02.330 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:07:02.330 --> 01:07:04.880 align:middle line:84%
And this motional stark
effect is particularly big

01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:08.180 align:middle line:84%
because we're talking about
very fast-moving neutral beam

01:07:08.180 --> 01:07:08.730 align:middle line:90%
particles.

01:07:08.730 --> 01:07:12.500 align:middle line:84%
So this isn't
useful in a plasma--

01:07:12.500 --> 01:07:14.090 align:middle line:84%
in just looking at
the thermal ions,

01:07:14.090 --> 01:07:15.920 align:middle line:84%
because all these velocities
are in different directions

01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:17.240 align:middle line:90%
and they're relatively small.

01:07:17.240 --> 01:07:19.130 align:middle line:84%
So all that will give
you is a broadening.

01:07:19.130 --> 01:07:22.320 align:middle line:84%
The point is that this V is
large and all in one direction.

01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:24.350 align:middle line:84%
So you get a big splitting
and it's consistent.

01:07:24.350 --> 01:07:26.630 align:middle line:84%
Every single particle
is emitting light

01:07:26.630 --> 01:07:27.931 align:middle line:90%
with the same spectra.

01:07:27.931 --> 01:07:30.098 align:middle line:84%
And so you can actually
stand a chance of measuring.

01:07:30.098 --> 01:07:34.310 align:middle line:90%


01:07:34.310 --> 01:07:35.225 align:middle line:90%
Any questions online?

01:07:35.225 --> 01:07:41.070 align:middle line:90%


01:07:41.070 --> 01:07:42.397 align:middle line:90%
All right.

01:07:42.397 --> 01:07:43.730 align:middle line:90%
You can have a quarter of your--

01:07:43.730 --> 01:07:45.350 align:middle line:84%
quarter of an hour
of your lives back.

01:07:45.350 --> 01:07:46.340 align:middle line:90%
Do whatever you want.

01:07:46.340 --> 01:07:49.120 align:middle line:90%
And happy Thanksgiving.

01:07:49.120 --> 01:07:52.000 align:middle line:90%