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NORVIN RICHARDS:
Signed languages--

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there are a bunch
of signed languages.

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I've listed three of them
here, but there are many.

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And maybe the first
thing to say about them,

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I can remember a
time when I believed,

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as a child, that signed
languages were basically

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just codes--

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coded versions of
spoken languages.

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When I was a kid,
you were sometimes

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taught ASL signs for things
every so often in class,

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sort of the way
you would be taught

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the occasional Spanish
word in class or whatever.

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It's like, here's the word
in a foreign language.

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Let's all learn this word.

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Unlike Spanish, the impression
I was given by my teachers-- who

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may actually have
believed this--

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was that the way you spoke
ASL was to speak English,

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but to use your hands.

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So like every English word
had an ASL translation.

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And there is
something like that.

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It's called Signed
Exact English.

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But it is not the standard
language used by the deaf.

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The deaf use something
called American Sign Language

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in America.

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Another way to
make this point may

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be that signed
languages are not just

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coded versions of the spoken
languages that are around them,

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is that American-- to point out
that American Sign Language is

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fairly closely related to French
Sign Language, which I won't

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try to pronounce in French
because I don't speak French,

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for historical reasons.

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The first schools for
the deaf in America

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were established by
people from France

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who had established schools
for the deaf in France

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and began establishing
them here.

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So American Sign Language is
a descendant of French Sign

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Language, and it is unrelated
to British Sign Language

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and quite different from it.

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So go ahead and
make all the jokes

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you want about American
English and British English

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being different, but they're
more similar to each other

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than either is to French.

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But American Sign Language is
more similar to French Sign

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Language than it is to
British Sign Language

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because American Sign
Language is not English.

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It's another
language, one which is

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spoken with your body,
especially your hands.

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Yes, I just said that.

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Thank you.

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Another way to make
the same point,

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there are big
grammatical differences

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between ASL and English, some
of which we'll be exploring.

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Here's one.

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In English has
overt wh-movement.

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Remember wh-movement?

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So in "Who did John see?"

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Lots of other languages,
like Mandarin, don't.

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And in this regard, ASL
is more like Mandarin

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than it is like English.

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It's actually a blend.

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You can do either one.

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But there's a very natural
way to ask wh-questions

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in ASL, which looks
something like this.

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Here's a guy who
is about to say,

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I think, "Who did John see?"

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"John"- "saw"- "who?"

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Yeah, so I'll get him
to sign that again.

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So "John saw who?"

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And "who" is signed like this.

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That's the ASL for "who."

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There's another thing he's
doing, which we'll talk about.

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Part of signing
a question in ASL

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is not just what you
do with your hands,

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but what you do with your face.

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You're required to
look puzzled as you

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ask these particular
kinds of questions--

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and so to tilt your head
and furrow your brow.

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And there's some
very careful work

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on where, exactly, you're
required to tilt your head

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and furrow your brow.

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It turns out to be
very interesting.

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It isn't just you do that
for the whole question.

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You do that for certain
parts of the question.

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And linguists who work
on signed languages

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do work on what's going on.

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I'll put a link to this.

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This is a corpus of American
Sign Language utterances

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by the folks over
there at BU who

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have a center for studying ASL.

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There's a lot of really
interesting data in here, which

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is tagged, as you can see.

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Anyway, I'll put a link
to this on our website.

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So this is Carol Neidle,
who's done a lot of really

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interesting work on ASL.

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Back into full screen mode.

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I'm sorry, I'm going
to do a lot of this

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because we're going to be going
back and forth between videos

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and my slides.

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And I am low tech.

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If I were higher tech, I
would have figured out a way

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to incorporate the
videos into the slides,

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but that's why this is the
linguistics department and not

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some other department.

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OK, so ASL is not English.

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It's not English because it's
not all that closely related

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to British sign language,
and it's also not English

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because, well, it has
wh- [INAUDIBLE] too,

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like, English standard way
to ask "Who did John see?,"

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the word order is,
"John saw who?"

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That's not to say that
sign languages aren't

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in some kind of contact
with spoken languages.

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So typically, if you're a deaf
person growing up in America,

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you have some kind of
relationship with ASL.

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What kind of relationship
depends on the circumstances.

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So it's not at all
uncommon for deaf children

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to be the deaf children
of hearing parents,

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and then their parents
have to do some hustling

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and be careful to make sure that
their children have a chance

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to learn ASL.

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Some children of hearing
parents will try to learn ASL

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themselves and raise
their children in ASL.

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But, of course that's quite
difficult, to learn quickly

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a language like ASL.

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I say "quickly" because
if you didn't know ASL

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before you realized that you
had a deaf child, well, then,

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you need to hurry up and
learn it fairly fast.

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And that's a difficult
position for parents to be in.

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So there are some barriers with
respect to how much resources

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these people have,
whether they can

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do that in time for their kids
to be exposed to ASL the way

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you need to be exposed
to your first language.

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They're the deaf kids
who-- and then, there

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are deaf kids who are lucky
enough to be around native ASL

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signers from a very early age.

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Now, the upshot of all
this is that if you're deaf

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and you're growing up
in the United States,

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you probably have some
kind of relation to ASL.

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Maybe you become
a fluent speaker.

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That's one hope.

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But you also have some kind
of relationship with English.

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You're surrounded by people
who are communicating

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with each other in English.

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And so there are what you
could think of as borrowings

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between gestures of
hearing people around you

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and the gestures that
are used in the sign.

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Maybe one of the
clearest examples

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of this, the pronoun for "I" in
American Sign Language is this.

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You point at your own chest.

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The pronoun for "I" in
Japanese Sign Language is this.

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You point at your own nose.

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That's borrowing
from the standard way

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to point to yourself
in these places.

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So in Japan, and a
lot of Asia, I think,

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the way to point to yourself
is to point at your own nose,

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whereas in America, the standard
way to point to yourself

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is to point at your chest.

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So we could think of
this as borrowing,

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if we wanted to,
some kind of contact

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between the spoken language
and the sign language.

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From very early on--

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one of the first
days, I think-- we

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talked about Saussure and
the idea of the arbitrariness

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of the sign, the observation
that the fact that this

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is called a "table"
is an arbitrary fact.

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There's nothing
about it that demands

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that it be called a table.

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It could have been
called "chair",

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and the fact that it's called
a table is an accident.

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The fact that we call it a table
in English but that in another

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language it could be called
a "mesa," or a [NON-ENGLISH],,

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or a bunch of other things.

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Yeah, languages get to
arbitrarily decide what

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they're going to call things.

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Even in spoken languages--

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I think we said this before--

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there are places where the
way a word is pronounced

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has some kind of connection
with what it refers to.

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The classic example
of this is names

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for birds, which are
not always, but often

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imitations of the
call of the bird.

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So a little chickadee
is named after the thing

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that a chickadee says.

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It sounds like it's
saying "chickadee,"

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if you listen to a chickadee.

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Or Passamaquoddy, the word
for "Great Horned Owl,"

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is [NON-ENGLISH],, which
is a pretty good imitation

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of an owl.

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So there are some
things like that

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where people seem
to be imitating

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the sounds made by something.

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In ASL, of course, your
sounds are not relevant.

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In a sense, you have
a lot of chances

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to have non-arbitrary signs.

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So there are signs
that really do

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look like you're
imitating the thing,

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trying to make an
image of the thing.

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So here's "book."

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That's "book."

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You can see why that's
the word for "book."

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Or this is "tree,"
and you can see

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why that's the word for "tree."

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It's a picture of a tree.

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This is the kind of
thing that gets people

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to think that ASL is basically
a very sophisticated version

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of charades, that people are
just trying to imitate things,

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and then you're done.

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But of course, that's not it.

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Signs are just as
arbitrary in ASL

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as they are in any
spoken language.

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That is to say they're
mostly arbitrary,

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with some other cases
like "chickadee"

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for English or "book"
for ASL, cases where it's

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possible to imitate something.

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There's a fair amount
of work on the phonology

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of signed languages-- which,
when I say it that way,

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sounds like a bad joke.

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I mean, what does that mean,
the phonology of sign languages?

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But it's actually, there's this
really cool stuff that people

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have observed about, if you
think of phonology as being

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the study of how basic units
can be combined to make slightly

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larger units-- so OK,
for spoken languages,

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those units are sounds--

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and we make all kinds of
observations about the rules

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for how those things
get to combine.

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And cast your mind back to when
I was showing you some Lardil

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data, and I said, we
convinced ourselves

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that it was useful to think
that the accusative forms were

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a more reliable guide
to the underlying forms

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than the nominative forms were.

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That's what we ended
up saying for Lardil.

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So we wanted to say, -in is
being added to the underlying

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form of the noun, which
for "woman" is "bidngen"

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and for "fish" is "yak."

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And if you ask a Lardil speaker,
what's your word for fish,

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they're not going to say "yak."

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They're going to say "yaga."

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But that's because, although
the Lardil word for fish is

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underlyingly "yak," Lardil
also has a basic rule--

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a bunch of rules--

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that lengthen
monosyllabic words.

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And we talked about
various rules of this kind.

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They add different
things depending

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on what the monosyllabic word
ends in, what sound it ends in,

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with the upshot that "yak"
is not a possible Lardil

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word because it's too short.

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And Lardil, therefore,
lengthens it

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if you haven't added
anything to it.

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So if you've made it
accusative, you're fine.

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It's two syllables long,
"yaga," and you're all done.

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But if you wanted
it to be nominative,

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you weren't going to add any
suffixes to it, well, then,

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you need to add another
vowel because it's too short.

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That was the picture of
Lardil that we ended up with.

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Does that sound even
faintly familiar?

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That's what we
were talking about.

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That's a story about
Lardil that says

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Lardil is like many languages
in having what's called

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a minimal word requirement.

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That is, in Lardil, it
says Lardil words can't

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be just one syllable long.

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If you have a word
that's going to end up

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being one syllable long,
you do something to it

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to make it longer.

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ASL has also been argued to
have a minimal word requirement,

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and the argument goes like this.

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There are signs that, if
they're by themselves,

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they involve a movement
which is often short.

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But then, that
movement goes away

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if they're made part
of a larger word.

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So here's the ASL for "think."

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You take your finger, you
move it towards your temple,

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and touch yourself in
the temple briefly.

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Yeah, that's "think" and
[INAUDIBLE] "I think."

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And here is "shocked."

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So "shocked" starts with
your finger at your temple,

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where it would be
for "think," and then

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it has a second
component, "shocked."

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"I'm shocked."

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Yeah, so "think," one way
to think about "think"

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is just having your
hand in a position.

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That's too small.

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That's like a
monosyllable in Lardil.

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And so you add something.

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You add emotion.

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Your hand moves
towards your temple.

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But if you're adding,
if you're making

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"shocked," which is "think"
plus something else--

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that's kind of like the
accusative of "fish"--

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then it's OK to just start
with your hand at your temple

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and then do the second half.

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You don't have to add
that motion to your hand.

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And the suggestion that's been
made in the literature on ASL

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phonology is this is like
a minimal word requirement.

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So Diane Brentari has suggested
ASL signs have a minimal word

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requirement.

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She doesn't say "like Lardil."

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I forget what minimal word
language she's talking about.

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So they have to contain at
least one move, is her idea.

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"Think" Is the ASL version of
the Lardil word for "fish."

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Remember Polish obstruents?

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I like this class because
I think I promised you

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that I was never, ever again
going to talk about Polish,

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and so I apologize.

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It's the last day.

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You don't have to hear
any more about Polish.

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Sorry, go ahead.

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AUDIENCE: I just
have a question.

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NORVIN RICHARDS: Yeah.

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AUDIENCE: Are there other words
that have "think" something?

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NORVIN RICHARDS:
Oh, dear, now we

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get beyond my very modest
knowledge about ASL.

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I don't know.

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Are you thinking that
might be the only one?

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AUDIENCE: Well, I think,
again, if you, I guess,

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look at compound words, there
is definitely the ability

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to pair them with other things.

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So I was just wondering
if that's a common way

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to just show surprise,
maybe confusion.

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NORVIN RICHARDS:
Oh, you mean having

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this as part of a larger sign?

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Yeah, so Brentari's
discussion certainly makes

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it sound like there
are a bunch of these.

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"Shocked" is the
examples she uses,

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and I'm afraid I don't
know any other examples

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off the top of my head.

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I'll try to find the paper
that I got this from,

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and I can put it on the
website so you can take a look.

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So here I am signing
things at you, yeah.

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Polish-- last time, I promise,
we will talk about Polish.

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Polish obstruents, so
stops and fricatives--

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we convinced
ourselves that Polish

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has what's called final
voicing, cross-linguistically

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extraordinarily common, a
phenomenon in which, if you

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have a voiced obstruent
at the end of a word,

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it becomes voiceless.

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So if you look at the
plurals of these nouns,

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then you can see that before
the plural suffix "i",

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you can have both
voiced and voiceless

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stops and fricatives-- in
the last example, "nose"

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and "rubble,"
plural of "rubble,"

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which, hopefully, none of
us will meet any time soon.

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But that if you don't have the
plural, all of these obstruents

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are voiceless if they're
at the end of a word

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because Polish has
final devoicing.

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This was part of the argument
that we need to posit

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an underlying representation for
a word like "lye," let's say--

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the second line there--
which ends in a voiced stop,

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because that gives us the best--

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well, the best
match on the data.

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So it allows us to account
for the fact that the plural

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of "bow" and "lye" look
different from each other--

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they're "wuki" and "wugi"--

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even though the
singulars look the same.

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So this is what we were doing
back when we were doing Polish,

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Yeah?

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Have I triggered your
Polish flashbacks?

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OK, so it has voiced
obstruents, but they're

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limited in where they can go.

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They can't go at
the ends of words.

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Here's an observation about
the distribution of finger

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wiggling in the ASL sign.

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So sometimes when
you make an ASL sign,

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you wiggle your fingers.

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There are ASL signs in which
there isn't much movement,

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or just one of Brentari's
shortened ones,

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like the word for
"color," which is this.

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So you put your
hand to your chin,

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and you wiggle your fingers.

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There are also signs where
your hands are moving

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and the wiggling is
happening during the move,

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like go up in flames,
where your hands are rising

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and your fingers are wiggling.

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That's how you do
go up in flames.

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So ASL signs can have
finger wiggling in them,

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but there are imaginable
signs that you don't get.

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So you could
imagine a sign where

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your fingers would wiggle,
and then you would move.

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It would be like
go up in flames,

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except you would wiggle first
before you began moving--

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or in which you moved
and then, having reached

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your destination,
you did a long move--

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not one of your short
moves, but a long move--

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did your move, and then
wiggled your fingers.

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But there aren't
any signs like that.

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So finger wiggling
is either confined

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to the position
at the end of one

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of Brentari's short movements,
or if your hands are moving

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over a longer distance like in
"go up in flames," well, you

00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:31.330 align:middle line:90%
have to wiggle the whole time.

00:16:31.330 --> 00:16:35.660 align:middle line:90%


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Similar observation
about hand shape change.

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So there are signs where your
hands just do a short move

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and then change their hand
shape, like "understand," where

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your hand moves into position
and then, put up one finger,

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"understand," or "old", where
your hand starts at your chin

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and moves as it moves away
from your chin-- "old."

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: You're talking about
other mental concepts being

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expressed in sign
language and understand--

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so it also starts at the temple?

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NORVIN RICHARDS: Yeah,
so I think, right, I

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think there are a number of--

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not surprising, maybe
a number of mental.

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So "forget" is another one.

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This is "forget," where you wipe
something off of your brain,

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yeah, using your middle finger.

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Your middle finger is
also used for being sick.

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So yeah, there are
a bunch of signs,

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that use your head that
have to do with what's

00:17:28.073 --> 00:17:28.990 align:middle line:90%
going on in your head.

00:17:28.990 --> 00:17:30.100 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, that's right.

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That's right.

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OK, so ASL has finger
wiggling, but there

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are limits on where
finger wiggling can go.

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It goes during the
motion, or it goes right

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after one of Brentari's
short movements.

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Hand shape change is the same.

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It goes after one of
Brentari's short movements,

00:17:43.560 --> 00:17:45.390 align:middle line:84%
like in "understand," or it
goes during the movement,

00:17:45.390 --> 00:17:46.290 align:middle line:90%
like in "old."

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Yeah, but there aren't--

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did I say this in
the next slide?

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Yeah, again, you can
imagine a sign where--

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which would be like "old" where
you would start with one hand

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shape, you change
shapes, and then move,

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or where you would move along
distance and then change

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shapes, but there aren't
any signs like that.

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And so people have
suggested, yeah,

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just like a phonologist has
to be able to say things like,

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this is a language that has
voiced obstruents but not

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at the ends of words-- there are
limits on where they can go--

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ASL has finger wiggling, and
it has hand shape change,

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but it has rules about where
they can go in the sign.

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And then, of course,
you want to know why--

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like why, what constrains
these to where they go.

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But when I say that there's
work on ASL phonology, ,

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this is what I mean--

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there's people
trying to figure out

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what makes something a
possible well-formed ASL sign.

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It turns out there
are limits on this.

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One observation,
actually, that people

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have made as they
do this work, there

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are compounds or
polymorphemic signs,

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which you can tell they're
polymorphemic because they

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appear to violate these rules.

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So I just said, there aren't
any signs where you first

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finger wiggle and then move.

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Here's an apparent
counterexample to that.

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There's a word "hypnotist,"
which goes like this.

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But that's a two-morpheme sign.

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So it's "hypnotize"-- which is
a Brentari short movement plus

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finger wiggling-- and
then there's a suffix,

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which is the agentive suffix.

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You use it to make--

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you attach it to nouns to
make people who do that now.

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So it's a hypnotist.

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So "hypnotist" by itself looks
like you're finger wiggling

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and then moving.

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But that's because there's
a morpheme boundary

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between those two things.

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So within a morpheme,
you can think of it

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as a bisyllabic
word if you want.

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So in the first syllable,
you're doing finger wiggling

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the same way you're doing
finger wiggling in color.

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And then there's a
second move, which

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involves moving your hands.

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ASL has one-handed
signs, like "understand,"

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and it also has two-handed
signs, like "go up in flames."

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There's an interesting
restriction in two-handed signs

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on the second hand.

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So the second hand
either has to stay still,

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like in tree, where one hand
moves and the other hand

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just stays there in the
background for the first sign,

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or it does the same
thing as the other hand.

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So "teach," both your hands
are doing the same thing.

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I love the sign for "teach."

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I want to do this
when I teach now.

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Or bicycle, where your hands
are doing the same thing,

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but they're out of
phase with each other.

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So they're both
going in circles.

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Which is kind of
interesting because--

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so and that's it, right?

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So there aren't
ASL signs in which

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one hand is doing one
thing and the other hand,

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is doing a completely
different thing.

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And it's not because--

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does that make sense?

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So your hands can't
both be moving and doing

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different things.

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Which is interesting, because it
is actually physically possible

00:20:52.970 --> 00:20:56.450 align:middle line:84%
to violate this, to have your
two hands both moving and doing

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different things, in poetry.

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So there's a video which
I'll try to show you now

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of an ASL poet, guy
named Clayton Valli, who

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wrote many poems in ASL.

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There are a lot
of YouTube videos

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of him performing his poems.

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And this one is
called "Snowflake."

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And what he does in it--

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the reason I'm going
to show you the video

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is that I can't physically
do it very well.

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I'll show you what he does.

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But I'll tell you
what he's about to do,

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just so you can see it.

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With one hand, he's doing
the sign for "snowflake"--

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which is a snowflake falling.

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And, then with the other
hand, he's signing one-handed

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versions of--

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I may not get the order right--

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white, cold, beautiful.

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And he's doing this as
this hand is moving.

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So this hand is moving, and
with the other hand, he's going,

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white, cold, beautiful.

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And as you can see, I can't
physically do this, but he can.

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Let me show you him doing it.

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Let me get it.

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Where is he?

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Yeah, so here's Clayton Valli.

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And I think I paused it in
more or less the right place,

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and we have to watch
this for a little bit.

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So he's about to sign
about looking out

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the window at a snowy day.

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The snow is coming down.

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And now I think
it's about to come.

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Here's the snow piled up.

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Come on, Clayton.

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Yeah, here it is.

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There's the snowflake
falling, and

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white, beautiful, cold,
yeah, with his other hand.

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So it's physically
possible to do that,

00:22:37.550 --> 00:22:40.370 align:middle line:84%
at least if you're Clayton
Valli, if you're a fluent ASL

00:22:40.370 --> 00:22:41.990 align:middle line:90%
signer.

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But there aren't any
ASL signs that do it.

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It's one of those rules
that you break in order

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to perform poetry.

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So I'll put a link to that.

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I'll put link to that poem on
the website so you can see.

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: I feel
like that might just

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be because most people
aren't capable of doing

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that, like do a
circle with one hand

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and a square with the other.

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Most people can't do that.

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NORVIN RICHARDS:
So I think it's one

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of those things that probably
requires practice, right?

00:23:09.320 --> 00:23:13.550 align:middle line:84%
And question, is this something
that any ASL signer could just

00:23:13.550 --> 00:23:15.980 align:middle line:90%
do cold without any trouble?

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If they saw the
Clayton Valli video,

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they'd be like, oh, yeah,
and then they would do it,

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and I can't do it because
I'm not a fluent ASL signer?

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Or whether it's because Clayton
Valli practiced in his room

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hour after hour
and eventually got

00:23:28.040 --> 00:23:30.380 align:middle line:84%
to where he could get
his hands to do that?

00:23:30.380 --> 00:23:31.220 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, right.

00:23:31.220 --> 00:23:32.570 align:middle line:90%
So I think you're right.

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It's not exactly that.

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It's not surprising
that ASL isn't

00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:38.060 align:middle line:84%
full of signs that are like
this, with your two hands doing

00:23:38.060 --> 00:23:39.780 align:middle line:90%
two different things.

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But it's interesting that
it is physically possible

00:23:42.620 --> 00:23:44.240 align:middle line:90%
to learn to do it.

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Yeah?

00:23:45.320 --> 00:23:49.400 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I think that it's in
contrast to the signing rule.

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It's one of the first things
you learn in an ASL class.

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And I believe that
is where you should

00:23:54.743 --> 00:23:57.903 align:middle line:84%
focus all your attention,
on the dominant hand.

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NORVIN RICHARDS:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So I mean, you're
absolutely right.

00:24:02.650 --> 00:24:04.900 align:middle line:84%
What happens is that
the non-dominant hand

00:24:04.900 --> 00:24:06.910 align:middle line:84%
either copies the
dominant hand or just

00:24:06.910 --> 00:24:10.060 align:middle line:90%
sits still, like in "tree."

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And so you think this is
something somebody deliberately

00:24:13.570 --> 00:24:14.080 align:middle line:90%
did?

00:24:14.080 --> 00:24:16.535 align:middle line:84%
They decided that ASL
should work this way?

00:24:16.535 --> 00:24:17.660 align:middle line:90%
It'd be interesting to see.

00:24:17.660 --> 00:24:18.310 align:middle line:90%
I have no idea.

00:24:18.310 --> 00:24:20.320 align:middle line:84%
I'm doing all this
talk about ASL.

00:24:20.320 --> 00:24:23.200 align:middle line:84%
I started by saying, there
are many sign languages.

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I don't know whether this is
true in every sign language.

00:24:25.990 --> 00:24:27.490 align:middle line:84%
I haven't heard
of a sign language

00:24:27.490 --> 00:24:29.698 align:middle line:84%
in which your hands are
allowed to move independently

00:24:29.698 --> 00:24:30.710 align:middle line:90%
of each other.

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So it'd be interesting to
see how universal this is.

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Yeah?

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Is there a left-handed versus
right-handed version of ASL?

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No, I mean if, so
I'm right-handed,

00:24:42.130 --> 00:24:43.630 align:middle line:84%
and so this is my
version of "tree."

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If I were left-handed this
would be my version of "tree."

00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:49.150 align:middle line:84%
And they mean the same
thing, as far as I can tell.

00:24:49.150 --> 00:24:52.960 align:middle line:84%
Similarly, for the signs
that use both hands--

00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.870 align:middle line:84%
I mean, this is a consequence
of these facts about the signs

00:24:55.870 --> 00:24:58.328 align:middle line:84%
that we've been talking about--
for the signs that use both

00:24:58.328 --> 00:25:01.682 align:middle line:90%
hands, like "teach," if I'm--

00:25:01.682 --> 00:25:03.640 align:middle line:84%
somebody described this
to me as the equivalent

00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:05.307 align:middle line:84%
of talking with your
mouth full-- if I'm

00:25:05.307 --> 00:25:08.020 align:middle line:84%
busy with my right hand,
if I'm holding something

00:25:08.020 --> 00:25:10.000 align:middle line:84%
or whatever, then I
can sign "teach" just

00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:13.300 align:middle line:84%
with my other hand, and
you don't lose anything,

00:25:13.300 --> 00:25:15.460 align:middle line:90%
in a sense.

00:25:15.460 --> 00:25:19.390 align:middle line:84%
You might if there's also a
sign that's just like this.

00:25:19.390 --> 00:25:22.022 align:middle line:84%
And Valli, actually,
in this video,

00:25:22.022 --> 00:25:23.230 align:middle line:90%
is doing something like that.

00:25:23.230 --> 00:25:27.850 align:middle line:84%
The sign for "cold"
uses both hands.

00:25:27.850 --> 00:25:29.440 align:middle line:90%
They're both moving.

00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:32.450 align:middle line:84%
But because his right hand
is busy doing "snowflake,"

00:25:32.450 --> 00:25:35.610 align:middle line:84%
he does a one-handed
version of "cold," yeah.

00:25:35.610 --> 00:25:41.180 align:middle line:90%


00:25:41.180 --> 00:25:45.730 align:middle line:84%
Yeah, OK, and I alluded
to this a second ago.

00:25:45.730 --> 00:25:47.500 align:middle line:84%
There's a lot of work
on the use of parts

00:25:47.500 --> 00:25:48.940 align:middle line:84%
of the body other
than your hands, so

00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:50.023 align:middle line:90%
your non-manual component.

00:25:50.023 --> 00:25:52.810 align:middle line:84%
There's facial expressions
that are involved in doing

00:25:52.810 --> 00:25:53.810 align:middle line:90%
certain kinds of things.

00:25:53.810 --> 00:25:57.310 align:middle line:84%
So as I said, in
wh-questions in ASL,

00:25:57.310 --> 00:26:00.370 align:middle line:84%
wh-questions require
you to furrow your brow

00:26:00.370 --> 00:26:01.780 align:middle line:90%
and look puzzled.

00:26:01.780 --> 00:26:04.427 align:middle line:84%
And there's all this interesting
work on where, exactly, you're

00:26:04.427 --> 00:26:05.260 align:middle line:90%
required to do that.

00:26:05.260 --> 00:26:09.715 align:middle line:84%
As I said, ASL is a
wh-in-situ language,

00:26:09.715 --> 00:26:11.950 align:middle line:84%
or it has the option
of wh in situ.

00:26:11.950 --> 00:26:15.110 align:middle line:84%
And I do have chalk
today, which is nice.

00:26:15.110 --> 00:26:18.610 align:middle line:84%
So apparently,
what that means is

00:26:18.610 --> 00:26:32.680 align:middle line:84%
that if you're doing the ASL for
"You gave what to the teacher?"

00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:35.710 align:middle line:84%
where just pretend that
all of this is ASL,

00:26:35.710 --> 00:26:39.370 align:middle line:84%
you're required to
look puzzled here--

00:26:39.370 --> 00:26:41.500 align:middle line:84%
that is, from the
beginning of the question

00:26:41.500 --> 00:26:43.180 align:middle line:90%
until you get to the wh word.

00:26:43.180 --> 00:26:46.630 align:middle line:84%
And then you're allowed
to relax your face.

00:26:46.630 --> 00:26:49.825 align:middle line:84%
And if this is an embedded
question like, I don't know--

00:26:49.825 --> 00:26:53.960 align:middle line:90%


00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.020 align:middle line:84%
so if I'm saying the
ASL for, "I don't know

00:26:56.020 --> 00:26:58.120 align:middle line:90%
what you gave to the teacher"--

00:26:58.120 --> 00:26:59.650 align:middle line:90%
well, then, this is still true.

00:26:59.650 --> 00:27:03.220 align:middle line:84%
You sign "I don't know" without
doing a wh- facial expression,

00:27:03.220 --> 00:27:05.110 align:middle line:90%
but you do one for this part.

00:27:05.110 --> 00:27:08.320 align:middle line:84%
So from the beginning of the
question to the wh- word,

00:27:08.320 --> 00:27:10.600 align:middle line:90%
you're required to look puzzled.

00:27:10.600 --> 00:27:14.680 align:middle line:84%
Just kind of cool there's
this work on this.

00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:18.715 align:middle line:84%
Or similarly, there's a negation
in facial expression in ASL.

00:27:18.715 --> 00:27:20.380 align:middle line:90%
And so negation--

00:27:20.380 --> 00:27:22.480 align:middle line:90%
ASL has a word for "not."

00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:24.350 align:middle line:90%
It's this.

00:27:24.350 --> 00:27:27.280 align:middle line:90%
And so if I want to sign--

00:27:27.280 --> 00:27:28.270 align:middle line:90%
oh, sorry.

00:27:28.270 --> 00:27:31.050 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So does that mean that
the facial expressions we make

00:27:31.050 --> 00:27:36.632 align:middle line:84%
when [INAUDIBLE] are
related to [INAUDIBLE]

00:27:36.632 --> 00:27:39.910 align:middle line:84%
face and interaction
with others?

00:27:39.910 --> 00:27:42.750 align:middle line:84%
Because I would think it's
something that's unique,

00:27:42.750 --> 00:27:45.070 align:middle line:84%
like when you're
confused, to make

00:27:45.070 --> 00:27:47.080 align:middle line:90%
an expression with your face.

00:27:47.080 --> 00:27:49.234 align:middle line:84%
Is it just related to
the fact that you're

00:27:49.234 --> 00:27:51.734 align:middle line:84%
talking with someone you want
to understand you're confused.

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Or is it [INAUDIBLE]?

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NORVIN RICHARDS: These are all
really interesting questions

00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:56.417 align:middle line:84%
to which I don't
know the answers.

00:27:56.417 --> 00:28:00.580 align:middle line:84%
One possibility is that the
puzzled facial expression,

00:28:00.580 --> 00:28:02.530 align:middle line:84%
the wh- facial
expression in ASL,

00:28:02.530 --> 00:28:05.650 align:middle line:84%
it's a little bit the
two pronouns for "I"

00:28:05.650 --> 00:28:07.120 align:middle line:84%
that I was talking
about earlier--

00:28:07.120 --> 00:28:09.940 align:middle line:84%
that this is "I" in ASL, and
this is "I" in Japanese Sign

00:28:09.940 --> 00:28:12.490 align:middle line:84%
Language, and that maybe
that's connected to gestures

00:28:12.490 --> 00:28:17.080 align:middle line:84%
that hearing people make that
speakers of sign languages

00:28:17.080 --> 00:28:18.530 align:middle line:90%
are using in a different way.

00:28:18.530 --> 00:28:21.940 align:middle line:84%
So you're right, I might, if I
were asking you a wh- question,

00:28:21.940 --> 00:28:23.900 align:middle line:90%
look puzzled.

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I don't have to look puzzled
to ask you a wh-question,

00:28:26.620 --> 00:28:30.310 align:middle line:84%
and there are no particular
restrictions on when I should

00:28:30.310 --> 00:28:31.300 align:middle line:90%
look puzzled--

00:28:31.300 --> 00:28:33.970 align:middle line:84%
where during my question
I should look puzzled.

00:28:33.970 --> 00:28:35.650 align:middle line:90%
But in ASL, there are.

00:28:35.650 --> 00:28:37.450 align:middle line:84%
You actually have
to do this, and you

00:28:37.450 --> 00:28:39.520 align:middle line:84%
have to do it at
the right points,

00:28:39.520 --> 00:28:43.000 align:middle line:84%
in the right points
of the wh- question.

00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.760 align:middle line:84%
So their use of
facial expressions

00:28:45.760 --> 00:28:49.570 align:middle line:84%
is a little more sophisticated,
I guess, or rule-governed,

00:28:49.570 --> 00:28:53.740 align:middle line:84%
than they have been shown to
be, anyway, for speaking people.

00:28:53.740 --> 00:28:56.050 align:middle line:84%
Now, maybe all this
shows is that there

00:28:56.050 --> 00:28:58.840 align:middle line:84%
hasn't been enough work
on facial expressions

00:28:58.840 --> 00:28:59.920 align:middle line:90%
for spoken languages.

00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:02.140 align:middle line:84%
We're all obsessed
with the sounds,

00:29:02.140 --> 00:29:05.320 align:middle line:84%
but for ASL, there's all
this clever work on what you

00:29:05.320 --> 00:29:06.640 align:middle line:90%
do with the rest of your body.

00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.860 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, good question.

00:29:09.860 --> 00:29:12.470 align:middle line:84%
Similarly, there's a
negation facial expression.

00:29:12.470 --> 00:29:16.460 align:middle line:84%
So if I want to say, "I'm
not deaf," I can sign,

00:29:16.460 --> 00:29:20.660 align:middle line:90%
"I," "not," and "deaf."

00:29:20.660 --> 00:29:28.400 align:middle line:84%
or I can point at myself and
shake my head as I sign "deaf."

00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:31.760 align:middle line:84%
So I don't have to use
the sign for "not" at all.

00:29:31.760 --> 00:29:35.570 align:middle line:84%
By shaking my head,
I convey negation

00:29:35.570 --> 00:29:38.005 align:middle line:90%
without using the negation sign.

00:29:38.005 --> 00:29:40.380 align:middle line:84%
So there are facial expressions
for both of these things.

00:29:40.380 --> 00:29:41.838 align:middle line:84%
I don't know what
happens when they

00:29:41.838 --> 00:29:45.002 align:middle line:84%
combine because, presumably,
you can ask negative questions.

00:29:45.002 --> 00:29:47.585 align:middle line:84%
I guess you can do all of these
things with your head at once.

00:29:47.585 --> 00:29:50.840 align:middle line:90%


00:29:50.840 --> 00:29:55.410 align:middle line:84%
One of the other properties
of signed languages

00:29:55.410 --> 00:29:59.000 align:middle line:84%
which is cool and there's
a lot of work on it

00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.400 align:middle line:84%
is the use of loci
in space to refer.

00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.700 align:middle line:84%
So an English
sentence like "Trump

00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:09.020 align:middle line:84%
told Biden that he
would win" is ambiguous.

00:30:09.020 --> 00:30:14.360 align:middle line:84%
So "he" could refer to Trump,
or to Biden, or to anybody else,

00:30:14.360 --> 00:30:15.370 align:middle line:90%
in principle.

00:30:15.370 --> 00:30:17.300 align:middle line:84%
It has to refer to
some male person.

00:30:17.300 --> 00:30:20.090 align:middle line:84%
It could refer to
either of these people.

00:30:20.090 --> 00:30:22.790 align:middle line:84%
If you were going to
sign this in ASL--

00:30:22.790 --> 00:30:23.938 align:middle line:90%
and I'm not going to.

00:30:23.938 --> 00:30:25.730 align:middle line:84%
I don't know enough
ASL, but I can tell you

00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:28.620 align:middle line:84%
the basic ideas about how this
would work-- first of all,

00:30:28.620 --> 00:30:31.100 align:middle line:84%
you would need what are
called "name signs."

00:30:31.100 --> 00:30:34.850 align:middle line:84%
So you would need to sign the
names "Trump" and "Biden".

00:30:34.850 --> 00:30:37.520 align:middle line:84%
The simple way to do that
is by finger spelling.

00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:42.897 align:middle line:84%
So there are correspondents
to all of the letters.

00:30:42.897 --> 00:30:45.230 align:middle line:84%
You can sign all of the letters
of the English alphabet.

00:30:45.230 --> 00:30:49.430 align:middle line:84%
So you could sign T-R-U-M-P,
only you'd do it faster if you

00:30:49.430 --> 00:30:52.070 align:middle line:90%
knew ASL.

00:30:52.070 --> 00:30:54.320 align:middle line:84%
But there are also what are
called "name signs," which

00:30:54.320 --> 00:30:57.170 align:middle line:84%
are signs that are just
signs for particular people--

00:30:57.170 --> 00:31:01.040 align:middle line:84%
typically famous people,
or people who are deaf,

00:31:01.040 --> 00:31:05.000 align:middle line:84%
I think, generally end
up with name signs.

00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:06.770 align:middle line:90%
Name signs are often based--

00:31:06.770 --> 00:31:09.980 align:middle line:84%
they often contain the first
letter of the person's name.

00:31:09.980 --> 00:31:12.080 align:middle line:84%
I had a classmate in
grad school who was deaf.

00:31:12.080 --> 00:31:15.500 align:middle line:84%
He's now a professor at
Gallaudet University.

00:31:15.500 --> 00:31:19.138 align:middle line:84%
His name was Gaurav in
English, and his ASL sign

00:31:19.138 --> 00:31:21.680 align:middle line:84%
involved the letter G, which is
the first letter of his name,

00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:22.670 align:middle line:90%
put on the chest.

00:31:22.670 --> 00:31:26.330 align:middle line:90%
Sorry, so that's Gaurav in ASL.

00:31:26.330 --> 00:31:27.800 align:middle line:84%
The name sign for
"Noam Chomsky,"

00:31:27.800 --> 00:31:31.040 align:middle line:84%
which is one of the few
other signs I know, is this.

00:31:31.040 --> 00:31:33.482 align:middle line:84%
So it's a C. When I
first saw it, I was like,

00:31:33.482 --> 00:31:34.940 align:middle line:84%
what, they think
he's an alcoholic?

00:31:34.940 --> 00:31:36.810 align:middle line:90%
What is the deal?

00:31:36.810 --> 00:31:39.350 align:middle line:84%
It turns out to be based
on the sign for "God."

00:31:39.350 --> 00:31:40.890 align:middle line:90%
So it's "God" with a C.

00:31:40.890 --> 00:31:41.390 align:middle line:90%
[LAUGHTER]

00:31:41.390 --> 00:31:42.350 align:middle line:90%
It's Noam Chomsky.

00:31:42.350 --> 00:31:44.660 align:middle line:84%
It was invented by someone
with the proper level

00:31:44.660 --> 00:31:47.430 align:middle line:90%
of respect for Noam Chomsky.

00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:49.430 align:middle line:84%
The name of sign for
Trump, there are apparently

00:31:49.430 --> 00:31:50.638 align:middle line:90%
various name signs for Trump.

00:31:50.638 --> 00:31:51.515 align:middle line:90%
One of them is this--

00:31:51.515 --> 00:31:54.480 align:middle line:90%
[LAUGHTER]

00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:54.980 align:middle line:90%


00:31:54.980 --> 00:31:58.430 align:middle line:90%
Or this, that's another one.

00:31:58.430 --> 00:32:01.358 align:middle line:84%
For Biden, I was looking,
and apparently, there

00:32:01.358 --> 00:32:03.650 align:middle line:84%
isn't general agreement on
what the name sign for Biden

00:32:03.650 --> 00:32:04.150 align:middle line:90%
ought to be.

00:32:04.150 --> 00:32:06.230 align:middle line:84%
One of them is this,
which is apparently

00:32:06.230 --> 00:32:09.290 align:middle line:84%
supposed to be a gesture
that indicates that he likes

00:32:09.290 --> 00:32:11.510 align:middle line:90%
to wear sunglasses, I guess.

00:32:11.510 --> 00:32:14.060 align:middle line:84%
It's connected to the fact
that he has sunglasses a lot.

00:32:14.060 --> 00:32:16.070 align:middle line:84%
By now, there must be
a name sign for Biden

00:32:16.070 --> 00:32:19.130 align:middle line:84%
because, of course, he's
surrounded by interpreters

00:32:19.130 --> 00:32:21.350 align:middle line:90%
when he's talking, you hope.

00:32:21.350 --> 00:32:23.948 align:middle line:84%
But anyway, if you wanted
to say-- bless you-- in ASL,

00:32:23.948 --> 00:32:26.240 align:middle line:84%
"Trump told Biden that he
would win," you'd sign Trump,

00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:29.090 align:middle line:84%
and you'd sign Biden, and
you would put them in places.

00:32:29.090 --> 00:32:32.180 align:middle line:84%
So you'd say "Trump," and you'd
put Trump here, and Biden,

00:32:32.180 --> 00:32:33.410 align:middle line:90%
put Biden here.

00:32:33.410 --> 00:32:37.942 align:middle line:84%
And then you would say,
he told him that he--

00:32:37.942 --> 00:32:39.650 align:middle line:84%
and then you would
either point at Trump,

00:32:39.650 --> 00:32:40.910 align:middle line:90%
or you would point at Biden--

00:32:40.910 --> 00:32:42.240 align:middle line:90%
would win.

00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:44.900 align:middle line:84%
So the ASL versions of the
sentence are not ambiguous.

00:32:44.900 --> 00:32:47.450 align:middle line:90%
So you make it clear.

00:32:47.450 --> 00:32:50.120 align:middle line:84%
You've either pointed at Trump,
or you've pointed at Biden.

00:32:50.120 --> 00:32:52.340 align:middle line:84%
So he always refers to
someone in particular.

00:32:52.340 --> 00:32:54.380 align:middle line:84%
Or, if what I want
to convey to you

00:32:54.380 --> 00:32:56.540 align:middle line:84%
is "Trump told Biden that
Obama would win," well,

00:32:56.540 --> 00:32:58.190 align:middle line:84%
then, I need to sign
"Biden," "Obama,"

00:32:58.190 --> 00:32:59.690 align:middle line:90%
and put "Obama" somewhere else.

00:32:59.690 --> 00:33:02.765 align:middle line:84%
You can have many, many people
in front of you in space.

00:33:02.765 --> 00:33:05.630 align:middle line:90%


00:33:05.630 --> 00:33:08.000 align:middle line:84%
I believe people who have
studied this have not

00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.510 align:middle line:84%
found limits on how much space,
how much subdividing of space

00:33:11.510 --> 00:33:13.070 align:middle line:90%
you can do in front of you.

00:33:13.070 --> 00:33:14.570 align:middle line:84%
I don't know how
hard they've tried,

00:33:14.570 --> 00:33:17.495 align:middle line:84%
but yeah, it's
certainly not just two.

00:33:17.495 --> 00:33:21.230 align:middle line:84%
You can have lots of
pronouns in front of you.

00:33:21.230 --> 00:33:23.142 align:middle line:84%
There are even fancier
things you can do.

00:33:23.142 --> 00:33:24.725 align:middle line:84%
I was just reading
a paper about this.

00:33:24.725 --> 00:33:26.420 align:middle line:90%
This is kind of astonishing.

00:33:26.420 --> 00:33:30.200 align:middle line:84%
So if I want to say something
in ASL like "Most of my students

00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:35.610 align:middle line:84%
came to class," what I do is I
start by signing "my students,"

00:33:35.610 --> 00:33:37.860 align:middle line:84%
and then I put my
students in a circle.

00:33:37.860 --> 00:33:40.550 align:middle line:84%
So I have my students, and
then I establish a circle

00:33:40.550 --> 00:33:41.942 align:middle line:90%
that all of my students are in.

00:33:41.942 --> 00:33:44.150 align:middle line:84%
And then I'm going to make
the sign for "most," which

00:33:44.150 --> 00:33:45.540 align:middle line:90%
I think is something like this.

00:33:45.540 --> 00:33:47.840 align:middle line:84%
And then I describe
a smaller circle

00:33:47.840 --> 00:33:50.780 align:middle line:84%
that's part of the circle that
I've just described for you.

00:33:50.780 --> 00:33:53.220 align:middle line:84%
And then I would
sign, "went to class."

00:33:53.220 --> 00:33:57.090 align:middle line:84%
So I make my circle that
has all the students,

00:33:57.090 --> 00:33:59.000 align:middle line:84%
And then I have a
subset of that that's--

00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.070 align:middle line:84%
I draw the kinds of
Venn diagram-y things

00:34:01.070 --> 00:34:03.003 align:middle line:90%
we were talking about before.

00:34:03.003 --> 00:34:03.920 align:middle line:90%
Here are the students.

00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:05.690 align:middle line:84%
And the cool thing
about this is now,

00:34:05.690 --> 00:34:08.719 align:middle line:84%
what I've got in front of me is
a space that's got my students,

00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.893 align:middle line:84%
and it's subdivided into
a larger space that's

00:34:11.893 --> 00:34:14.060 align:middle line:84%
got most of my students,
the ones who came to class,

00:34:14.060 --> 00:34:16.100 align:middle line:84%
and a smaller space that's
got the students who

00:34:16.100 --> 00:34:17.250 align:middle line:90%
didn't come to class.

00:34:17.250 --> 00:34:19.159 align:middle line:84%
So the next
sentence, apparently,

00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:23.630 align:middle line:84%
can be "They stayed home,"
pointing at the ones who

00:34:23.630 --> 00:34:25.159 align:middle line:90%
didn't come to class.

00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.760 align:middle line:84%
In English, if I say "Most
of my students came to class,

00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:34.480 align:middle line:84%
they stayed home," I'm
contradicting myself.

00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.480 align:middle line:84%
And there's something
interesting going on here.

00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:37.980 align:middle line:84%
When we were talking
about pronouns,

00:34:37.980 --> 00:34:39.710 align:middle line:90%
we just breezed by them, right?

00:34:39.710 --> 00:34:41.570 align:middle line:84%
Pronouns, well,
they refer to people

00:34:41.570 --> 00:34:44.330 align:middle line:90%
who are salient or whatever.

00:34:44.330 --> 00:34:49.570 align:middle line:84%
Certainly, if I pass a bunch
of students on the Infinite

00:34:49.570 --> 00:34:51.820 align:middle line:84%
Corridor, I could remark to
you, "They're on their way

00:34:51.820 --> 00:34:52.320 align:middle line:90%
to class."

00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.528 align:middle line:84%
We don't have to have been
talking about them before.

00:34:54.528 --> 00:34:55.909 align:middle line:90%
They're just there in the world.

00:34:55.909 --> 00:34:58.220 align:middle line:84%
I get to assume that
you're thinking about them.

00:34:58.220 --> 00:35:00.550 align:middle line:84%
But if I say "Most
of my students

00:35:00.550 --> 00:35:03.220 align:middle line:90%
came to class," well, that--

00:35:03.220 --> 00:35:05.620 align:middle line:84%
I mean, I'm telling you
that they're my students,

00:35:05.620 --> 00:35:07.330 align:middle line:84%
and that most of
them came to class,

00:35:07.330 --> 00:35:09.430 align:middle line:84%
and then there were the
ones who didn't, right?

00:35:09.430 --> 00:35:10.912 align:middle line:90%
I mean, that's what that means.

00:35:10.912 --> 00:35:13.120 align:middle line:84%
But I still don't get to
refer to the ones who didn't

00:35:13.120 --> 00:35:14.410 align:middle line:90%
come to class with "they."

00:35:14.410 --> 00:35:16.660 align:middle line:84%
"They" has to refer to the
ones who did come to class.

00:35:16.660 --> 00:35:19.780 align:middle line:84%
But in ASL, I get
to point at them.

00:35:19.780 --> 00:35:21.860 align:middle line:84%
And so I get to refer
to them right away.

00:35:21.860 --> 00:35:23.240 align:middle line:90%
Joseph?

00:35:23.240 --> 00:35:26.380 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So the "Most of
my students came to class."

00:35:26.380 --> 00:35:28.040 align:middle line:90%
NORVIN RICHARDS: Yeah.

00:35:28.040 --> 00:35:31.625 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Because [INAUDIBLE]
the quantifier "most,"

00:35:31.625 --> 00:35:33.410 align:middle line:90%
you're describing a subset.

00:35:33.410 --> 00:35:35.360 align:middle line:84%
But doesn't it
conservatively mean you

00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.130 align:middle line:90%
get to ignore the [INAUDIBLE]?

00:35:38.130 --> 00:35:40.130 align:middle line:84%
NORVIN RICHARDS: So if
we didn't know about ASL,

00:35:40.130 --> 00:35:44.815 align:middle line:84%
I might have said, why don't I
get to refer to that other set?

00:35:44.815 --> 00:35:46.190 align:middle line:84%
And you might have
said, ah, it's

00:35:46.190 --> 00:35:48.052 align:middle line:84%
because of the
conservativity of "most."

00:35:48.052 --> 00:35:50.510 align:middle line:84%
Yeah, that would have been a
pretty plausible thing to say,

00:35:50.510 --> 00:35:52.730 align:middle line:90%
and it's maybe even right.

00:35:52.730 --> 00:35:55.730 align:middle line:84%
But the fact that in ASL you
can refer to them with a pronoun

00:35:55.730 --> 00:35:57.590 align:middle line:84%
suggests that
maybe it's actually

00:35:57.590 --> 00:35:58.725 align:middle line:90%
something else going on.

00:35:58.725 --> 00:36:01.100 align:middle line:84%
There's all kinds of stuff
like this in spoken languages,

00:36:01.100 --> 00:36:01.470 align:middle line:90%
by the way.

00:36:01.470 --> 00:36:02.720 align:middle line:90%
It's not just about modifiers.

00:36:02.720 --> 00:36:05.630 align:middle line:90%
And so like-- old observation--

00:36:05.630 --> 00:36:11.570 align:middle line:84%
if I say, John has a
child; she's five--

00:36:11.570 --> 00:36:12.590 align:middle line:90%
that's fine.

00:36:12.590 --> 00:36:14.150 align:middle line:84%
And "she," you
probably figure it's

00:36:14.150 --> 00:36:15.770 align:middle line:90%
the child I'm talking about.

00:36:15.770 --> 00:36:18.920 align:middle line:84%
If I say, "John
is a parent; she's

00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:22.920 align:middle line:84%
five," that's a weird
thing for me to say,

00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:24.870 align:middle line:84%
even though by saying,
"John is a parent,"

00:36:24.870 --> 00:36:26.880 align:middle line:84%
I'm telling you that
John has a child, right?

00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.190 align:middle line:84%
That's what that means,
but it doesn't help.

00:36:29.190 --> 00:36:33.340 align:middle line:84%
[LAUGHS] So we're limited
in how we can use pronouns.

00:36:33.340 --> 00:36:33.840 align:middle line:90%
I'm sorry.

00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:35.392 align:middle line:84%
You had a point
you wanted to make.

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AUDIENCE: Is there
any finer distinction,

00:36:37.100 --> 00:36:40.700 align:middle line:84%
like with [INAUDIBLE] say, I
get most of my students who

00:36:40.700 --> 00:36:42.520 align:middle line:90%
don't come to class because--

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NORVIN RICHARDS: I
believe you can, then,

00:36:44.260 --> 00:36:46.220 align:middle line:90%
draw subparts of these.

00:36:46.220 --> 00:36:48.190 align:middle line:84%
I'll put that paper
on the website, too.

00:36:48.190 --> 00:36:48.730 align:middle line:90%
You can--

00:36:48.730 --> 00:36:49.210 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:36:49.210 --> 00:36:50.500 align:middle line:84%
NORVIN RICHARDS: Yeah,
there's all kinds of stuff

00:36:50.500 --> 00:36:51.643 align:middle line:90%
that you can do with space.

00:36:51.643 --> 00:36:53.560 align:middle line:84%
Again, I don't know what
the limits of it are,

00:36:53.560 --> 00:36:55.518 align:middle line:84%
but it would be really
interesting to find out.

00:36:55.518 --> 00:36:57.942 align:middle line:84%
Yeah, they can do more
referring to sets and subsets

00:36:57.942 --> 00:37:00.400 align:middle line:84%
than we can do because they
have the advantage that they've

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.410 align:middle line:90%
got a blackboard.

00:37:02.410 --> 00:37:05.040 align:middle line:84%
They get to point out
where everything is.

00:37:05.040 --> 00:37:05.540 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:37:05.540 --> 00:37:07.600 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: OK, so
that seems pretty

00:37:07.600 --> 00:37:09.203 align:middle line:90%
different from spoken English.

00:37:09.203 --> 00:37:10.120 align:middle line:90%
NORVIN RICHARDS: Yeah.

00:37:10.120 --> 00:37:13.418 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] shapes
that individual's perception

00:37:13.418 --> 00:37:15.590 align:middle line:84%
of the world into
certain [INAUDIBLE]..

00:37:15.590 --> 00:37:19.800 align:middle line:84%
But is their written form of
communication very different

00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:21.240 align:middle line:90%
from a non-deaf individual's?

00:37:21.240 --> 00:37:22.220 align:middle line:90%
Or are they similar?

00:37:22.220 --> 00:37:23.220 align:middle line:90%
NORVIN RICHARDS: Oh, OK.

00:37:23.220 --> 00:37:24.720 align:middle line:84%
So there have been
various attempts

00:37:24.720 --> 00:37:28.290 align:middle line:84%
to come up with writing systems
that are indigenous to ASL,

00:37:28.290 --> 00:37:29.790 align:middle line:84%
and I don't think
any of them have

00:37:29.790 --> 00:37:33.580 align:middle line:90%
gained a lot of popularity.

00:37:33.580 --> 00:37:39.090 align:middle line:84%
So when linguists are
writing papers about ASL,

00:37:39.090 --> 00:37:40.393 align:middle line:90%
what they typically do is--

00:37:40.393 --> 00:37:42.060 align:middle line:84%
I mean, I did a parody
of it over here--

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that if you want to write an
example sentence that's like,

00:37:45.390 --> 00:37:48.510 align:middle line:84%
"I saw a tree," for "tree,"
you're going to write--

00:37:48.510 --> 00:37:51.960 align:middle line:84%
for this sign, you're going
to write the English word

00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.340 align:middle line:90%
"tree" in all capital letters.

00:37:53.340 --> 00:37:55.590 align:middle line:84%
So you use all capital letters
to indicate that you're

00:37:55.590 --> 00:37:57.750 align:middle line:90%
talking about signs.

00:37:57.750 --> 00:37:59.340 align:middle line:84%
And then, they'll
annotate these,

00:37:59.340 --> 00:38:01.950 align:middle line:84%
if you're interested
in indicating things

00:38:01.950 --> 00:38:04.210 align:middle line:84%
about facial position,
and facial expression,

00:38:04.210 --> 00:38:05.710 align:middle line:84%
and things like
that, there are ways

00:38:05.710 --> 00:38:07.110 align:middle line:84%
of annotating that
to show you're

00:38:07.110 --> 00:38:10.500 align:middle line:84%
doing the wh- facial
expression or whatever.

00:38:10.500 --> 00:38:13.420 align:middle line:84%
As far as actual
ASL speakers go,

00:38:13.420 --> 00:38:17.220 align:middle line:84%
my understanding is that they
typically don't write in ASL.

00:38:17.220 --> 00:38:20.610 align:middle line:84%
So dictionaries, you can find
dictionaries of ASL online.

00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:22.950 align:middle line:84%
They have lots of
videos, or they'll

00:38:22.950 --> 00:38:27.320 align:middle line:84%
have pictures of one
frame after another of--

00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:32.010 align:middle line:84%
so there isn't-- literacy among
the deaf is apparently a really

00:38:32.010 --> 00:38:34.140 align:middle line:84%
serious problem, as you
might imagine, right?

00:38:34.140 --> 00:38:36.030 align:middle line:84%
So somebody who's
profoundly deaf,

00:38:36.030 --> 00:38:40.160 align:middle line:90%
who hasn't heard a sound--

00:38:40.160 --> 00:38:44.370 align:middle line:84%
learning to spell if you
can hear is hard enough.

00:38:44.370 --> 00:38:49.230 align:middle line:84%
Learning to spell if all of the
symbols that you're being asked

00:38:49.230 --> 00:38:53.520 align:middle line:84%
to write just don't represent
anything for you at all,

00:38:53.520 --> 00:38:54.820 align:middle line:90%
it's going to be a nightmare.

00:38:54.820 --> 00:38:59.400 align:middle line:84%
And so although ASL
native signers typically

00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.065 align:middle line:84%
write in English, it's
apparently very hard,

00:39:02.065 --> 00:39:02.940 align:middle line:90%
as you might imagine.

00:39:02.940 --> 00:39:04.710 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:39:04.710 --> 00:39:06.190 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:39:06.190 --> 00:39:08.050 align:middle line:90%
Points about this?

00:39:08.050 --> 00:39:08.550 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:39:08.550 --> 00:39:13.050 align:middle line:90%


00:39:13.050 --> 00:39:15.090 align:middle line:84%
Oh, OK, so yeah,
this has all been

00:39:15.090 --> 00:39:17.320 align:middle line:84%
about space and other
things to do with your body.

00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.950 align:middle line:84%
I wanted to show
you one other video.

00:39:20.950 --> 00:39:24.000 align:middle line:84%
So there's another phenomenon
that people use when they are

00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:27.123 align:middle line:84%
telling stories or talking
about multiple people,

00:39:27.123 --> 00:39:28.665 align:middle line:84%
which is what's
called "role shift"--

00:39:28.665 --> 00:39:30.810 align:middle line:84%
that's what people who
work on it call it--

00:39:30.810 --> 00:39:32.670 align:middle line:90%
where you'll shift your body.

00:39:32.670 --> 00:39:34.407 align:middle line:84%
People do this in
spoken language,

00:39:34.407 --> 00:39:36.240 align:middle line:84%
too, but again, in ASL,
it's apparently more

00:39:36.240 --> 00:39:37.230 align:middle line:90%
or less obligatory.

00:39:37.230 --> 00:39:39.150 align:middle line:84%
You'll shift your
body to represent

00:39:39.150 --> 00:39:42.930 align:middle line:84%
the different characters
that you're talking about.

00:39:42.930 --> 00:39:47.610 align:middle line:84%
And I'll show you a story
where somebody does this.

00:39:47.610 --> 00:39:49.860 align:middle line:84%
It is a story about
throwing a stick for a dog,

00:39:49.860 --> 00:39:52.140 align:middle line:84%
and one of the nice
things about it

00:39:52.140 --> 00:39:53.880 align:middle line:84%
is that there's no
need at all to explain

00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.180 align:middle line:90%
what the guy is talking about.

00:39:56.180 --> 00:39:57.680 align:middle line:84%
Maybe at the beginning
a little bit.

00:39:57.680 --> 00:39:59.870 align:middle line:84%
He's going for a
walk with his dog.

00:39:59.870 --> 00:40:03.220 align:middle line:90%


00:40:03.220 --> 00:40:04.320 align:middle line:90%
No, stop that!

00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:11.930 align:middle line:90%


00:40:11.930 --> 00:40:14.030 align:middle line:90%
OK, so there's his dog, right?

00:40:14.030 --> 00:40:15.980 align:middle line:90%
[LAUGHS] And there's him.

00:40:15.980 --> 00:40:18.230 align:middle line:84%
[LAUGHS] Yeah, so
he's doing role shift.

00:40:18.230 --> 00:40:20.050 align:middle line:90%
He's going to get a stick.

00:40:20.050 --> 00:40:23.093 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, and there's the dog again.

00:40:23.093 --> 00:40:24.010 align:middle line:90%
The dog's all excited.

00:40:24.010 --> 00:40:24.677 align:middle line:90%
There's the guy.

00:40:24.677 --> 00:40:27.040 align:middle line:90%
He throws the stick.

00:40:27.040 --> 00:40:30.460 align:middle line:90%
Phew, clunk.

00:40:30.460 --> 00:40:32.050 align:middle line:90%
And here comes the dog.

00:40:32.050 --> 00:40:32.770 align:middle line:90%
And so--

00:40:32.770 --> 00:40:35.884 align:middle line:90%
[LAUGHTER]

00:40:35.884 --> 00:40:38.853 align:middle line:90%


00:40:38.853 --> 00:40:41.270 align:middle line:84%
I'm showing this to you partly
because it's a cute story--

00:40:41.270 --> 00:40:43.575 align:middle line:90%
"Thank you," he says.

00:40:43.575 --> 00:40:45.950 align:middle line:84%
I'm showing that to you partly
because it's a cute story,

00:40:45.950 --> 00:40:48.075 align:middle line:84%
but also because it's a
good example of role shift.

00:40:48.075 --> 00:40:50.250 align:middle line:84%
So he's-- oh, there's
Clayton Valli again--

00:40:50.250 --> 00:40:51.590 align:middle line:90%
a good example of role shift.

00:40:51.590 --> 00:40:54.410 align:middle line:84%
So he's using his body to go
back and forth between being

00:40:54.410 --> 00:40:55.640 align:middle line:90%
the dog and being the person.

00:40:55.640 --> 00:40:57.307 align:middle line:84%
And apparently, this
is a standard thing

00:40:57.307 --> 00:41:01.490 align:middle line:84%
that you do if you do ASL, if
you're a native speaker of ASL.

00:41:01.490 --> 00:41:04.130 align:middle line:84%
It's part of being a fluent
signer as opposed to being

00:41:04.130 --> 00:41:05.750 align:middle line:90%
someone who knows a bit of ASL.

00:41:05.750 --> 00:41:09.068 align:middle line:90%


00:41:09.068 --> 00:41:10.610 align:middle line:84%
Full screen mode,
that's what I want.

00:41:10.610 --> 00:41:13.322 align:middle line:90%


00:41:13.322 --> 00:41:14.230 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:41:14.230 --> 00:41:19.400 align:middle line:84%
So this was what I wanted to
try to show you about ASL.

00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:24.500 align:middle line:84%
So just to review, ASL, American
Sign Language, it's a language.

00:41:24.500 --> 00:41:28.920 align:middle line:84%
It's a language spoken here in
America by many deaf people.

00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:30.830 align:middle line:90%
It is not English.

00:41:30.830 --> 00:41:32.420 align:middle line:90%
It's not any form of English.

00:41:32.420 --> 00:41:35.060 align:middle line:84%
It's not charades, and
it's not English with all

00:41:35.060 --> 00:41:37.250 align:middle line:84%
of the words replaced
by signs, which is what

00:41:37.250 --> 00:41:39.805 align:middle line:90%
I believed when I was a kid.

00:41:39.805 --> 00:41:41.930 align:middle line:84%
It's a language that's
quite different from English

00:41:41.930 --> 00:41:45.650 align:middle line:84%
in various ways, as
I've tried to show you.

00:41:45.650 --> 00:41:48.710 align:middle line:84%
There's a lot of
interesting work on ASL.

00:41:48.710 --> 00:41:52.220 align:middle line:84%
A lot of it is on ASL phonology,
where by "phonology," we

00:41:52.220 --> 00:41:55.010 align:middle line:84%
mean what we always meant
by phonology, I guess,

00:41:55.010 --> 00:41:58.130 align:middle line:84%
which is the rules for how
the articulations work.

00:41:58.130 --> 00:42:01.430 align:middle line:84%
So phonology up
until now has all

00:42:01.430 --> 00:42:03.870 align:middle line:84%
been about what you're
doing with your vocal tract

00:42:03.870 --> 00:42:06.328 align:middle line:84%
and what the rules are for what
your vocal tract is allowed

00:42:06.328 --> 00:42:09.380 align:middle line:90%
to do here or there in a word.

00:42:09.380 --> 00:42:11.510 align:middle line:84%
There is an ASL
version of this where

00:42:11.510 --> 00:42:14.510 align:middle line:84%
people try to understand what
are the various articulations

00:42:14.510 --> 00:42:19.040 align:middle line:84%
your fingers, your hands, your
wrists, the rest of your body,

00:42:19.040 --> 00:42:20.870 align:middle line:84%
what are those
parts of you allowed

00:42:20.870 --> 00:42:24.350 align:middle line:84%
to do at different
points in the sign?

00:42:24.350 --> 00:42:25.880 align:middle line:84%
And then, as I
said, there's a lot

00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:27.530 align:middle line:84%
of interest in the use
of parts of your body

00:42:27.530 --> 00:42:28.447 align:middle line:90%
other than your hands.

00:42:28.447 --> 00:42:30.680 align:middle line:84%
Lots of work on facial
expression and on role shift,

00:42:30.680 --> 00:42:33.200 align:middle line:84%
shifting your shifting
your body back and forth.

00:42:33.200 --> 00:42:36.220 align:middle line:84%
And that's what I wanted
to tell you about ASL.

00:42:36.220 --> 00:42:39.800 align:middle line:90%
Any questions about any of that?

00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:40.910 align:middle line:90%
Then we are done.

00:42:40.910 --> 00:42:43.610 align:middle line:84%
You officially know
everything about 24.900.

00:42:43.610 --> 00:42:45.780 align:middle line:84%
So 24.900, you know
everything about linguistics.

00:42:45.780 --> 00:42:46.280 align:middle line:90%
[LAUGHTER]

00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:48.450 align:middle line:90%
No, actually, that's false.

00:42:48.450 --> 00:42:50.935 align:middle line:84%
But one of the main
goals of this class--

00:42:50.935 --> 00:42:52.310 align:middle line:84%
this class has
had several goals,

00:42:52.310 --> 00:42:53.935 align:middle line:84%
but one of the main
goals of this class

00:42:53.935 --> 00:42:55.640 align:middle line:84%
has been to convince
you that there

00:42:55.640 --> 00:42:59.060 align:middle line:84%
are some interesting mysteries
having to do with how language

00:42:59.060 --> 00:43:02.242 align:middle line:84%
works and that, if you take
more linguistics classes,

00:43:02.242 --> 00:43:04.700 align:middle line:84%
you might get to learn more
about how those mysteries work.

00:43:04.700 --> 00:43:06.530 align:middle line:84%
If you take even more
linguistics classes,

00:43:06.530 --> 00:43:09.140 align:middle line:84%
then you could be the person
who solves these mysteries

00:43:09.140 --> 00:43:11.380 align:middle line:84%
for the rest of us,
which would be great.

00:43:11.380 --> 00:43:13.130 align:middle line:84%
One of the nice things
about linguistics--

00:43:13.130 --> 00:43:14.510 align:middle line:90%
I think I've said this before--

00:43:14.510 --> 00:43:17.030 align:middle line:84%
it's a field that's
been around for a while.

00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:18.300 align:middle line:90%
We have some results.

00:43:18.300 --> 00:43:20.870 align:middle line:84%
But it's not all that hard,
even in an intro class,

00:43:20.870 --> 00:43:24.050 align:middle line:84%
to bring you right up to the
edge of what we understand

00:43:24.050 --> 00:43:27.770 align:middle line:84%
and invite you to look down into
the abyss and ask yourself how

00:43:27.770 --> 00:43:30.350 align:middle line:84%
you could build a bridge-- this
metaphor is getting away from

00:43:30.350 --> 00:43:31.700 align:middle line:90%
me--

00:43:31.700 --> 00:43:33.560 align:middle line:84%
how you could move
further, how you

00:43:33.560 --> 00:43:35.462 align:middle line:84%
could get further
from where we are.

00:43:35.462 --> 00:43:36.920 align:middle line:84%
So I hope that at
least some of you

00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.620 align:middle line:84%
will be inspired to want to
do that because we need people

00:43:39.620 --> 00:43:41.630 align:middle line:84%
to go out there and
solve the mysteries that

00:43:41.630 --> 00:43:43.430 align:middle line:90%
haven't been solved.

00:43:43.430 --> 00:43:46.592 align:middle line:90%
Questions about any of that?

00:43:46.592 --> 00:43:47.800 align:middle line:90%
All right, then, we are done.

00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:48.970 align:middle line:90%
Go forth.

00:43:48.970 --> 00:43:50.528 align:middle line:90%
Do your class evaluations.

00:43:50.528 --> 00:43:52.570 align:middle line:84%
So we're ending early, so
you'll have a good half

00:43:52.570 --> 00:43:55.720 align:middle line:84%
hour to think hard about what
you want to write in your class

00:43:55.720 --> 00:43:56.530 align:middle line:90%
evaluations.

00:43:56.530 --> 00:43:59.662 align:middle line:90%
And thanks very much.

00:43:59.662 --> 00:44:01.340 align:middle line:90%
[APPLAUSE]

00:44:01.340 --> 00:44:01.840 align:middle line:90%
Thank you.

00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.645 align:middle line:90%


00:44:05.645 --> 00:44:06.520 align:middle line:90%
Thank you, thank you.

00:44:06.520 --> 00:44:08.910 align:middle line:90%
Go out and enjoy the day.

00:44:08.910 --> 00:44:17.000 align:middle line:90%