1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,520 The following content is provided under a Creative 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,970 Commons license. 3 00:00:03,970 --> 00:00:06,360 Your support will help MIT OpenCourseWare 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,660 continue to offer high-quality educational resources for free. 5 00:00:10,660 --> 00:00:13,350 To make a donation or view additional materials 6 00:00:13,350 --> 00:00:17,190 from hundreds of MIT courses, visit MIT OpenCourseWare 7 00:00:17,190 --> 00:00:18,332 at ocw.mit.edu. 8 00:00:26,666 --> 00:00:29,430 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: So we're here. 9 00:00:29,430 --> 00:00:32,880 So we're in lecture four, and this is really exciting 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,420 because we're going to be talking about an application. 11 00:00:36,420 --> 00:00:40,680 We sort of spent three lectures introducing and building up 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,550 some of the framework that the computer solves 13 00:00:44,550 --> 00:00:46,710 to do quantum mechanics, and now we're 14 00:00:46,710 --> 00:00:48,490 going to actually look at a real problem. 15 00:00:48,490 --> 00:00:50,850 It's a really cool problem. 16 00:00:50,850 --> 00:00:54,000 And then that'll sort of-- we'll follow up with this. 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,625 We might do a little bit more of this to start on Tuesday, 18 00:00:56,625 --> 00:00:58,500 and then we'll talk about hydrogen storage is 19 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:00,420 another problem. 20 00:01:00,420 --> 00:01:03,690 We'll go back after that to a little more formalism 21 00:01:03,690 --> 00:01:06,660 to get to solids because these are molecules so far, 22 00:01:06,660 --> 00:01:08,470 and then we'll do some more problems. 23 00:01:08,470 --> 00:01:09,810 OK, so that's our plan. 24 00:01:12,890 --> 00:01:15,800 What I want to do today is I want to review a little. 25 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:21,200 Since I didn't-- so Michelle came in and gave the lecture, 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,920 lecture number three, because I was in San Francisco. 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,230 And so I'd like to review some of the key points 28 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:31,332 from that lecture. 29 00:01:31,332 --> 00:01:33,290 So we're going to review a little bit to start. 30 00:01:33,290 --> 00:01:36,140 And then I want to do some interactive calculations 31 00:01:36,140 --> 00:01:39,350 together because, first of all, there's 32 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:40,910 no better way to spend time, really, 33 00:01:40,910 --> 00:01:43,340 with a person or a class or any-- 34 00:01:43,340 --> 00:01:46,070 to compute together is to know one another. 35 00:01:46,070 --> 00:01:49,010 And through these interactive calculations on the hydrogen 36 00:01:49,010 --> 00:01:50,720 dimer, we will pose some questions 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,150 and answer them together, make sure 38 00:01:53,150 --> 00:01:55,220 that we're kind of collectively understanding 39 00:01:55,220 --> 00:01:57,380 some of the key points of the first three lectures. 40 00:01:57,380 --> 00:02:02,870 Then I'll tell you about why this is such a cool problem, 41 00:02:02,870 --> 00:02:07,070 what solar thermal fuels are, and why this 42 00:02:07,070 --> 00:02:08,720 is such a cool energy problem. 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,000 And then we'll end with a discussion and some more 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,340 interactive calculations of the solar thermal fuels 45 00:02:13,340 --> 00:02:16,370 and kind of talking about why we need quantum mechanics 46 00:02:16,370 --> 00:02:17,798 to tackle this problem. 47 00:02:17,798 --> 00:02:18,590 So that's our plan. 48 00:02:22,250 --> 00:02:24,620 Is anybody else-- yeah, we're good with that? 49 00:02:24,620 --> 00:02:26,113 We got a thumbs up. 50 00:02:26,113 --> 00:02:26,780 I'm ready to go. 51 00:02:26,780 --> 00:02:27,380 I love it. 52 00:02:27,380 --> 00:02:30,830 You can give me a little private thumbs up like that any time, 53 00:02:30,830 --> 00:02:32,540 and I love that kind of feedback. 54 00:02:32,540 --> 00:02:33,860 That's helpful. 55 00:02:33,860 --> 00:02:36,320 And I was actually thinking that you 56 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,410 were thinking of the Celtics securing the division 57 00:02:39,410 --> 00:02:40,025 title anyway. 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,410 I think you talked about this. 59 00:02:45,410 --> 00:02:46,785 This is sort of where you started 60 00:02:46,785 --> 00:02:48,660 because we had this kind of quantum mechanics 61 00:02:48,660 --> 00:02:49,618 that we couldn't solve. 62 00:02:49,618 --> 00:02:52,350 And then we said, well, but you can solve it analytically 63 00:02:52,350 --> 00:02:54,450 for hydrogen, and we did. 64 00:02:54,450 --> 00:02:58,050 And we said that that explained the periodic table, amazingly, 65 00:02:58,050 --> 00:03:01,410 if you only had one electron and one proton. 66 00:03:01,410 --> 00:03:03,730 Unfortunately everything has a lot more than that, 67 00:03:03,730 --> 00:03:06,900 and what happens is that when you 68 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:10,860 put more than one quantum-mechanical particle-- 69 00:03:10,860 --> 00:03:11,940 by which I mean what? 70 00:03:14,495 --> 00:03:15,870 AUDIENCE: More than one electron. 71 00:03:15,870 --> 00:03:17,120 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Electrons. 72 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,260 For us, that's the quantum-mechanical particle 73 00:03:19,260 --> 00:03:20,152 that we care about. 74 00:03:20,152 --> 00:03:22,360 Of course there are more quantum-mechanical particles 75 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,940 than that in the world. 76 00:03:23,940 --> 00:03:25,343 Everything is quantum mechanical, 77 00:03:25,343 --> 00:03:26,760 but those are the things we really 78 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,210 care about in this class. 79 00:03:28,210 --> 00:03:30,390 And if you put more than one into the whole thing, 80 00:03:30,390 --> 00:03:34,005 then you've got to think about how they talk to each other, 81 00:03:34,005 --> 00:03:35,740 and that's the killer. 82 00:03:35,740 --> 00:03:38,220 So you can talk about how they talk to the ion. 83 00:03:38,220 --> 00:03:39,840 That's this 1 over r term-- 84 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,060 how they talk to the proton I mean, right? 85 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:45,683 But talking to each other, that's this many-body problem. 86 00:03:45,683 --> 00:03:47,100 It's called the many-body problem. 87 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:50,740 That's really hard, and analytically it's a nightmare, 88 00:03:50,740 --> 00:03:53,040 and that's where computation comes in. 89 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,580 Unfortunately, so this is sort of showing-- 90 00:03:56,580 --> 00:04:00,130 this is just all review for the first little bit of this class. 91 00:04:00,130 --> 00:04:01,350 I want to talk about review. 92 00:04:01,350 --> 00:04:04,925 Those good-old days of one electron are over. 93 00:04:04,925 --> 00:04:05,550 They were good. 94 00:04:05,550 --> 00:04:06,310 They were fun. 95 00:04:06,310 --> 00:04:09,580 We had a blast for one lecture, and now we're moving on, 96 00:04:09,580 --> 00:04:13,213 and we're going to multibody, many-body problems. 97 00:04:13,213 --> 00:04:15,130 And that's the many-body Schrodinger equation. 98 00:04:15,130 --> 00:04:16,350 And you can see that the thing goes 99 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:18,392 from this where you get those hydrogenic orbitals 100 00:04:18,392 --> 00:04:19,899 and everything's beautiful to this 101 00:04:19,899 --> 00:04:24,660 where it's just a complete mathematical nightmare. 102 00:04:24,660 --> 00:04:27,570 And this cannot be solved analytically. 103 00:04:27,570 --> 00:04:30,450 And so these are sums over all of the ions, 104 00:04:30,450 --> 00:04:34,140 sums over all the electron-ion interactions and sums 105 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:36,500 over all the electron-electron interactions. 106 00:04:36,500 --> 00:04:39,450 This is the killer right here. 107 00:04:39,450 --> 00:04:40,798 We make some approximations. 108 00:04:40,798 --> 00:04:42,840 That's how we get there because as I talked about 109 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:46,890 in the beginning, even if our computers were seriously 110 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:50,070 like 10 orders of magnitude faster than they are today, 111 00:04:50,070 --> 00:04:52,140 we still wouldn't be able to solve this problem 112 00:04:52,140 --> 00:04:53,760 in a straightforward way. 113 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,130 We cannot solve it directly and exactly, 114 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:57,990 so we have to make approximations. 115 00:04:57,990 --> 00:05:00,000 One of the first ones we make is-- 116 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,740 oh, and that's just those are the labels. 117 00:05:01,740 --> 00:05:03,565 One of the first ones we make are-- right, 118 00:05:03,565 --> 00:05:04,440 there's the equation. 119 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,510 That's the Schrodinger equation-- 120 00:05:06,510 --> 00:05:09,420 is this Born-Oppenheimer approximation. 121 00:05:09,420 --> 00:05:13,050 I think Michelle probably showed you my tattoo. 122 00:05:13,050 --> 00:05:15,390 Did you see the tattoo? 123 00:05:15,390 --> 00:05:16,847 That was my-- 124 00:05:16,847 --> 00:05:18,930 I tried to find a good image for Born-Oppenheimer, 125 00:05:18,930 --> 00:05:20,370 and that came up first. 126 00:05:20,370 --> 00:05:22,450 And then did she talk about-- no? 127 00:05:22,450 --> 00:05:26,177 So when I found the image, I found it on a blog. 128 00:05:26,177 --> 00:05:28,010 And that's a dangerous thing because there's 129 00:05:28,010 --> 00:05:30,200 a long trail of discussion. 130 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,140 And it was interesting that the whole discussion was not 131 00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:35,540 about computational modeling and it was not 132 00:05:35,540 --> 00:05:38,930 about physics, Schrodinger, or Born-Oppenheimer. 133 00:05:38,930 --> 00:05:41,150 It was entirely about whether this guy was 134 00:05:41,150 --> 00:05:44,450 going to be able to find dates or not in his life. 135 00:05:44,450 --> 00:05:47,720 And it was actually a very engaging discussion, 136 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,520 and it came out-- it was like 50% 137 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,800 said definitely because of the tattoo, and 50% said no way. 138 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,800 And so I don't know where that-- 139 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,360 but anyway. 140 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,680 Now this is another cartoon that just 141 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,070 shows that the electrons are the flies, 142 00:06:05,070 --> 00:06:07,560 and the protons, the nucleus, are these cows. 143 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,040 And they move really slow, bulls. 144 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,150 I didn't mean to dis. 145 00:06:15,930 --> 00:06:18,420 These guys are going really fast. 146 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:21,760 This guy's kind of slow, and that's really the point. 147 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,860 Electrons are fast and light, and so it's 148 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:27,570 a good approximation. 149 00:06:27,570 --> 00:06:32,370 How much lighter are they than the proton or the nucleus? 150 00:06:32,370 --> 00:06:33,328 AUDIENCE: 1 over 2,000. 151 00:06:33,328 --> 00:06:35,037 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Yeah, it's a couple-- 152 00:06:35,037 --> 00:06:36,000 it's like 1,000, right? 153 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,320 So that's enough lighter that you can say, you know what? 154 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,480 At any given time, it's a good approximation 155 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,810 to say that this thing is pretty stationary with respect 156 00:06:45,810 --> 00:06:48,810 to these things buzzing around. 157 00:06:48,810 --> 00:06:53,130 That's the Born-Oppenheimer approximation in cow language-- 158 00:06:53,130 --> 00:06:54,390 OK, cow-fly language. 159 00:06:59,620 --> 00:07:05,820 Actually, this is more Google image art. 160 00:07:08,910 --> 00:07:10,860 So this is the approximation we make. 161 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:13,970 What you can see is that we just get rid of those nuclear terms. 162 00:07:13,970 --> 00:07:15,900 We treat them as if they're not moving 163 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:18,540 and they don't really matter because at any given time what 164 00:07:18,540 --> 00:07:25,340 we care about is the electronic structure with the atoms fixed. 165 00:07:25,340 --> 00:07:26,930 That's what we're talking about here. 166 00:07:26,930 --> 00:07:28,130 And you can solve for it. 167 00:07:28,130 --> 00:07:30,810 It's a really good approximation in many cases. 168 00:07:30,810 --> 00:07:33,110 There are some fields where it matters, 169 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:35,340 where this approximation actually can break down 170 00:07:35,340 --> 00:07:36,590 like in superconductivity. 171 00:07:36,590 --> 00:07:37,910 We're not going to go there. 172 00:07:37,910 --> 00:07:40,820 For us and the things we care about, that's sort of-- 173 00:07:40,820 --> 00:07:43,550 the positions of the atoms are frozen, 174 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:45,290 and then we solve for the electrons. 175 00:07:45,290 --> 00:07:49,970 That's fine, and that's a good approximation. 176 00:07:49,970 --> 00:07:52,670 OK, so any questions about Born-Oppenheimer, 177 00:07:52,670 --> 00:07:54,950 the Born-Oppenheimer surface? 178 00:07:54,950 --> 00:07:58,160 You'll hear people say that, the Born-Oppenheimer surface, 179 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,990 and now you know what they mean. 180 00:07:59,990 --> 00:08:04,700 They mean the energy surface where the electrons are always 181 00:08:04,700 --> 00:08:07,550 in sort of their ground state with respect 182 00:08:07,550 --> 00:08:10,730 to the nuclei positions because they always have enough time 183 00:08:10,730 --> 00:08:14,332 to get there because they move so much faster than the nuclei. 184 00:08:14,332 --> 00:08:16,040 That's the Born-Oppenheimer [INAUDIBLE].. 185 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,450 You can pull that out as well in conversation. 186 00:08:19,450 --> 00:08:21,520 Now that's one approximation. 187 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,170 That kind of helps. 188 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:25,010 It really doesn't help the key problem, 189 00:08:25,010 --> 00:08:28,270 which is that many-body-interaction thing. 190 00:08:28,270 --> 00:08:30,400 So that's like the real-- 191 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,030 that's the real issue here. 192 00:08:32,030 --> 00:08:37,140 How do we get over this electron-electron interaction? 193 00:08:37,140 --> 00:08:40,020 And don't even let me say it, electron-electron-electron 194 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:43,620 interaction because you can have like three-body effects. 195 00:08:43,620 --> 00:08:46,680 It's a many-body world, but we can't do that. 196 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:50,460 We can't do that on a computer in a good-enough time scale 197 00:08:50,460 --> 00:08:54,150 to be applicable to materials, so we simplify. 198 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:55,860 And you covered this, right? 199 00:08:55,860 --> 00:08:57,360 This is not-- but we're getting back 200 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,210 into our feeling with this, right? 201 00:09:00,210 --> 00:09:01,920 But you did cover this. 202 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,760 Am I correct? 203 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,570 OK, good. 204 00:09:03,570 --> 00:09:05,550 One person got it. 205 00:09:05,550 --> 00:09:07,650 But thank you for that in the back. 206 00:09:07,650 --> 00:09:12,900 Now, OK, there were basically two paths because they saw this 207 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:15,210 and they knew, they being the people thinking 208 00:09:15,210 --> 00:09:19,440 about computational materials, physics, and chemistry 209 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,190 back in the 1940s. 210 00:09:21,190 --> 00:09:23,710 They knew they needed to do something. 211 00:09:23,710 --> 00:09:25,950 And so there were essentially two paths. 212 00:09:25,950 --> 00:09:28,680 There was a path that most chemists took, 213 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:30,840 and there was a path that most physicists 214 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,320 took starting in sort of the '60s really, actually. 215 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:42,700 The path that the chemists took is to say, you know what? 216 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:45,910 We're not going to mess with the Hamiltonian. 217 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:48,990 We are not going to mess with this. 218 00:09:48,990 --> 00:09:50,620 This is right. 219 00:09:50,620 --> 00:09:52,570 The physics of this is correct, so we don't 220 00:09:52,570 --> 00:09:54,430 want to play around with that. 221 00:09:54,430 --> 00:09:57,490 Most of what the chemists did was to play around 222 00:09:57,490 --> 00:09:58,990 with the wave function. 223 00:09:58,990 --> 00:10:01,120 So what they did is-- 224 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:01,790 let me go back. 225 00:10:01,790 --> 00:10:04,000 Sorry. 226 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,670 I think I had the Schrodinger equation here. 227 00:10:06,670 --> 00:10:11,530 H-- remember Schrodinger equation, H psi equals E psi. 228 00:10:11,530 --> 00:10:14,030 Well, they played with psi. 229 00:10:14,030 --> 00:10:16,550 So instead of saying that psi can be complex 230 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:20,760 as it needs to be with all the freedom that it needs to have, 231 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,890 they said no, we're going to start to restrict that freedom. 232 00:10:24,890 --> 00:10:27,290 That's really how quantum chemistry sort of began. 233 00:10:27,290 --> 00:10:29,082 I mean, there was some perturbation theory, 234 00:10:29,082 --> 00:10:32,240 but a lot of the real advances in quantum chemistry 235 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,860 in the beginning happened in making approximations for this, 236 00:10:36,860 --> 00:10:38,270 for the wave function. 237 00:10:38,270 --> 00:10:40,490 They said keep H, mess with psi. 238 00:10:40,490 --> 00:10:41,940 Make it simple. 239 00:10:41,940 --> 00:10:45,660 And if you make it simple, it becomes a tractable problem, 240 00:10:45,660 --> 00:10:47,090 right? 241 00:10:47,090 --> 00:10:50,030 How many of you have heard of a determinant, a Slater 242 00:10:50,030 --> 00:10:52,520 determinant? 243 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,360 Slater was here at MIT, and it was a really important 244 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,010 contribution to quantum chemistry 245 00:10:58,010 --> 00:11:02,568 was to be able to write psi, keep the important properties 246 00:11:02,568 --> 00:11:04,610 that you need but to write it in a much simpler-- 247 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:06,100 in a very simplified way. 248 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:07,760 So you lose information. 249 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,590 It's not the same psi that you need. 250 00:11:09,590 --> 00:11:11,420 It's not the correct psi, but it's 251 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:13,233 sort of an approximate version of it. 252 00:11:13,233 --> 00:11:14,900 That's kind of where quantum chemistry-- 253 00:11:14,900 --> 00:11:19,130 that's what Hartree-Fock theory is based on. 254 00:11:19,130 --> 00:11:22,430 Then you have sort of the physics world in the 1960s. 255 00:11:22,430 --> 00:11:25,430 And I've shown you the picture of Walter Kohn, who 256 00:11:25,430 --> 00:11:28,440 is the only person to win a Nobel Prize in computation, 257 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,140 so far at least. 258 00:11:30,140 --> 00:11:31,908 And he won it for a density function-- 259 00:11:31,908 --> 00:11:33,950 for his development of density functional theory. 260 00:11:33,950 --> 00:11:36,890 Now that is taking sort of the opposite approach. 261 00:11:36,890 --> 00:11:42,980 What that is doing that is saying, OK, ignore psi. 262 00:11:42,980 --> 00:11:44,450 Psi is just too hard. 263 00:11:44,450 --> 00:11:47,750 Even if you simplify it, it's a really hard thing 264 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:52,100 to write in a computer and to represent accurately, and so 265 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:56,150 let's just forget about that and work only with the density. 266 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:58,580 I take it you did talk about this last week, right? 267 00:11:58,580 --> 00:12:01,970 So in density functional theory, that's where it gets its name. 268 00:12:01,970 --> 00:12:04,430 You just get rid of psi by not thinking about it 269 00:12:04,430 --> 00:12:10,160 and by solving the problem of the density instead of the wave 270 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:10,820 function. 271 00:12:10,820 --> 00:12:14,960 So it's the density of the electrons instead of the wave 272 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,670 function of the electrons. 273 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:20,590 Now when you do that, effectively-- and again, 274 00:12:20,590 --> 00:12:23,605 my goal here in this class is not to go deep mathematics here 275 00:12:23,605 --> 00:12:25,730 because I know many of you haven't had quantum yet, 276 00:12:25,730 --> 00:12:27,980 but I want you to come away with an intuitive 277 00:12:27,980 --> 00:12:29,540 picture for what's happening. 278 00:12:29,540 --> 00:12:35,890 What happened in the 1960s when these communities were really 279 00:12:35,890 --> 00:12:39,860 developing computational quantum mechanics for the first time? 280 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:42,670 And what this does-- no, but stay. 281 00:12:42,670 --> 00:12:44,500 It's still going to be good. 282 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:45,190 OK, go ahead. 283 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,430 We'll fill you in when you come back. 284 00:12:51,430 --> 00:12:53,290 What this does to say that I want 285 00:12:53,290 --> 00:12:56,080 to think about the density instead of the wave function 286 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,850 is effectively it modifies H. So now instead of modifying psi, 287 00:13:01,850 --> 00:13:05,430 you actually are changing H considerably-- 288 00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:07,440 considerably. 289 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,540 But you hope that you don't change it 290 00:13:09,540 --> 00:13:13,710 so much that it's wrong or that it's unphysical, right? 291 00:13:13,710 --> 00:13:16,380 And density functional theory effectively 292 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:19,120 is a theory that simplifies H, the Hamiltonian, 293 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,940 the expression for the energy. 294 00:13:20,940 --> 00:13:25,290 You basically get rid of those complex, many-particle 295 00:13:25,290 --> 00:13:31,710 interactions from H and you put effective potentials into it. 296 00:13:31,710 --> 00:13:33,300 That's density functional theory. 297 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:37,050 Now, both of them get rid of this many-body problem. 298 00:13:37,050 --> 00:13:40,890 Actually, see, what you do in quantum chemistry is you change 299 00:13:40,890 --> 00:13:43,290 the wave function so it's a single-particle wave 300 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:46,890 function, which basically means when you solve the equations, 301 00:13:46,890 --> 00:13:50,005 there are no more many-body terms left. 302 00:13:50,005 --> 00:13:51,380 And in density functional theory, 303 00:13:51,380 --> 00:13:54,530 you change the Hamiltonian so that you explicitly get rid 304 00:13:54,530 --> 00:13:56,360 of the many-body interactions. 305 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,950 Either way, you're left with a single-particle picture. 306 00:13:59,950 --> 00:14:01,120 That's really the trick. 307 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,060 In both communities, what you end up with 308 00:14:04,060 --> 00:14:05,380 is a single-particle picture. 309 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:08,440 Now that's something that you can solve in less than the age 310 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,810 of the universe on a computer, and that's the key. 311 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:14,838 You're left with these single-particle pictures. 312 00:14:14,838 --> 00:14:16,380 What is this single-particle picture? 313 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:17,730 Who can tell me? 314 00:14:17,730 --> 00:14:19,720 Did you talk about that? 315 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:25,220 You go from a many-body picture to a single-particle picture. 316 00:14:25,220 --> 00:14:26,000 Take a guess. 317 00:14:30,190 --> 00:14:33,430 Yeah, I see that you want to guess. 318 00:14:33,430 --> 00:14:36,010 Yeah, yeah, go ahead. 319 00:14:36,010 --> 00:14:39,970 AUDIENCE: It's one where all the variables in your theory 320 00:14:39,970 --> 00:14:45,060 only sort of depend on-- 321 00:14:45,060 --> 00:14:49,000 all the things in your theory only 322 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,530 depend on the variables for one particle. 323 00:14:53,530 --> 00:14:55,240 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Basically yes. 324 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,800 I mean, that's exactly it, right? 325 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,560 So now my electrons-- 326 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,780 my electrons are like this. 327 00:15:01,780 --> 00:15:05,570 In my real system, here are my electrons, all 328 00:15:05,570 --> 00:15:10,420 those E's, and there they are. 329 00:15:10,420 --> 00:15:12,610 But what I'm saying is that this isn't-- 330 00:15:12,610 --> 00:15:14,295 I can't describe this because, look, 331 00:15:14,295 --> 00:15:16,420 that's when I have to take into account these guys. 332 00:15:16,420 --> 00:15:20,050 Look, that's this term here, the R minus r 333 00:15:20,050 --> 00:15:22,940 is the relative positions of two electrons. 334 00:15:22,940 --> 00:15:24,640 And I even need to take these guys 335 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,030 and these guys and those guys, and that's the many-body part. 336 00:15:28,030 --> 00:15:31,900 That's not solvable, basically, not for computational material 337 00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:32,710 science. 338 00:15:32,710 --> 00:15:35,860 So what we need to do is-- 339 00:15:35,860 --> 00:15:39,070 I mean, it's solvable in certain ways, but it's very hard. 340 00:15:39,070 --> 00:15:41,410 I should put it that way. 341 00:15:41,410 --> 00:15:45,490 So the single-particle picture is to say, sorry, 342 00:15:45,490 --> 00:15:48,820 but you're going to lose all this individualness here, 343 00:15:48,820 --> 00:15:50,500 and each electron-- 344 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:52,600 I'm going to now map this guy over here-- 345 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,960 is only going to feel some potential field, 346 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:01,060 some mean field, some mean potential average 347 00:16:01,060 --> 00:16:02,800 of all of those other electrons. 348 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,920 It swims in an average potential now. 349 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,770 And so I basically have just eliminated the problem. 350 00:16:08,770 --> 00:16:10,650 The problem was this. 351 00:16:10,650 --> 00:16:13,840 It's too hard to solve on the computer, certainly 352 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,280 analytically but also on computer. 353 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,380 And so I've changed it to this. 354 00:16:17,380 --> 00:16:20,680 That's basically what both of these things do. 355 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,140 Quantum chemistry and density functional theory 356 00:16:23,140 --> 00:16:26,720 both result in this picture, this very simplified picture. 357 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,040 It's called a mean-field picture because each electron 358 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,260 is in a mean field of the rest of them. 359 00:16:33,260 --> 00:16:35,110 They do it in different ways. 360 00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:39,550 Quantum chemists do it by simplifying the wave function, 361 00:16:39,550 --> 00:16:42,460 and the physicists did it originally 362 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:46,003 by simplifying the Hamiltonian. 363 00:16:46,003 --> 00:16:47,920 And there was a lot of really interesting sort 364 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,230 of discussion, to put it lightly, 365 00:16:51,230 --> 00:16:53,450 about which path was better. 366 00:16:53,450 --> 00:16:55,640 And then I think now both communities, 367 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,607 I think, work in both ways. 368 00:16:57,607 --> 00:16:58,940 There's a lot of back and forth. 369 00:16:58,940 --> 00:17:01,040 But density functional theory is definitely 370 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,110 the one we're going to work on with this class 371 00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:06,730 because it strikes a balance. 372 00:17:06,730 --> 00:17:10,930 It strikes a very nice balance as a method that 373 00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:13,060 can capture enough accuracy. 374 00:17:13,060 --> 00:17:15,202 It sacrifices something. 375 00:17:15,202 --> 00:17:16,660 It definitely sacrifices something. 376 00:17:16,660 --> 00:17:18,700 You approximate the Hamiltonian. 377 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:22,450 But it doesn't sacrifice-- it still is pretty accurate, 378 00:17:22,450 --> 00:17:24,310 and it's been shown to be pretty accurate 379 00:17:24,310 --> 00:17:28,690 for many, many, many problems. 380 00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:33,485 And you can see that it's also right in this region here, 381 00:17:33,485 --> 00:17:35,110 which is a really nice region to be in. 382 00:17:35,110 --> 00:17:37,660 Now why is this a nice region to be in on the vertical axis? 383 00:17:43,287 --> 00:17:45,270 AUDIENCE: You can solve for larger molecules. 384 00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:47,520 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: You can solve for large molecules, 385 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,350 yeah. 386 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:48,860 What else? 387 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:55,890 Yeah? 388 00:17:55,890 --> 00:17:58,510 AUDIENCE: It's growing pretty quickly, so in the future 389 00:17:58,510 --> 00:18:00,240 you'll be able to do even more atoms. 390 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,407 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Totally. 391 00:18:01,407 --> 00:18:04,830 Nice n-cubed scaling-- well, sorry, n-cubed scaling 392 00:18:04,830 --> 00:18:07,780 with the method with size but also increase in the speed 393 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:08,280 here. 394 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:12,282 What else? 395 00:18:12,282 --> 00:18:13,990 What else might this be a nice sweet spot 396 00:18:13,990 --> 00:18:15,820 for computational materials design? 397 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,620 1,000 to 10,000 atoms, sort of where the limits of DFT are. 398 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:30,060 Well, what are we solving for? 399 00:18:30,060 --> 00:18:31,065 Electrons, right? 400 00:18:31,065 --> 00:18:34,020 We're solving for those properties of electrons. 401 00:18:34,020 --> 00:18:36,060 Now, why is this a nice sweet spot? 402 00:18:44,050 --> 00:18:48,280 Well, when might I need less or more atoms than that? 403 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,290 OK, so let's say I'm in coupled cluster, which 404 00:18:50,290 --> 00:18:54,380 is one of these ways of making the wave function simpler. 405 00:18:54,380 --> 00:18:58,510 It's a very accurate method, but you can only do today, 406 00:18:58,510 --> 00:19:04,763 I don't know, 15 atoms accurately, maybe 20. 407 00:19:04,763 --> 00:19:06,180 What would be limiting about that? 408 00:19:09,210 --> 00:19:10,380 Is 20 atoms enough? 409 00:19:10,380 --> 00:19:10,980 Yeah? 410 00:19:10,980 --> 00:19:12,260 AUDIENCE: If you're trying to figure out, say, 411 00:19:12,260 --> 00:19:14,160 the electrical properties of some material, 412 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,560 you don't really have enough space 413 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,350 to take into account some three-dimensional block 414 00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:20,017 of stuff. 415 00:19:20,017 --> 00:19:22,350 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: And when would you run out of space? 416 00:19:22,350 --> 00:19:22,892 What matters? 417 00:19:26,415 --> 00:19:28,540 AUDIENCE: Boundary conditions and things like that. 418 00:19:28,540 --> 00:19:28,650 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Yeah. 419 00:19:28,650 --> 00:19:31,050 AUDIENCE: So if you're talking quantum dots or things 420 00:19:31,050 --> 00:19:32,670 like that, you have different sizes 421 00:19:32,670 --> 00:19:34,713 contributing to the properties of the material. 422 00:19:34,713 --> 00:19:36,630 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Yeah, and you can't really 423 00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:38,370 explore those with just 20 atoms. 424 00:19:38,370 --> 00:19:39,660 Definitely a good point. 425 00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:40,460 Anything else? 426 00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:46,880 Why else might this-- 427 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,500 so it's not just-- 428 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:49,760 it's the size. 429 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,120 When I hear it's the size of the material you want to study 430 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:55,730 and 1 to 10,000 is a pretty good region, 431 00:19:55,730 --> 00:19:58,280 you can play a lot-- welcome back. 432 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:04,310 You can play a lot with that size range. 433 00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:07,670 You can model a lot of materials in that size range. 434 00:20:07,670 --> 00:20:10,670 But importantly, the thing you're modeling 435 00:20:10,670 --> 00:20:12,090 are the electrons. 436 00:20:12,090 --> 00:20:15,080 And so what counts, it's not just 437 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,680 about how many atoms you can put into your simulation. 438 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,160 That's not what counts. 439 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,470 You see these titles of papers like million-atom simulation, 440 00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:27,980 billion-atom simulation, trillion-atom simulation. 441 00:20:27,980 --> 00:20:28,822 OK, that's cool. 442 00:20:28,822 --> 00:20:29,780 You get a lot of atoms. 443 00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:30,560 Good for you. 444 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,190 But what matters? 445 00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:36,350 What matters is did you need those atoms for the property 446 00:20:36,350 --> 00:20:39,240 you care about? 447 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,110 Did you need them? 448 00:20:40,110 --> 00:20:42,800 Now in some cases, maybe you do. 449 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,870 But for electrons, very often they're spread. 450 00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:52,110 What they want to do is kind of more dominated 451 00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:54,360 by a few nearest-neighbor distances, 452 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:58,110 maybe 10-nearest-neighbor distances in a crystal. 453 00:20:58,110 --> 00:21:02,170 In some cases they're very spread out, like in a metal, 454 00:21:02,170 --> 00:21:04,530 and then we can use periodic boundary conditions, 455 00:21:04,530 --> 00:21:07,890 and we can still capture all the physics. 456 00:21:07,890 --> 00:21:11,340 But when you have interfaces or roughness or molecules, 457 00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:13,570 the electrons aren't going to-- 458 00:21:13,570 --> 00:21:16,850 even if you put a million atoms in, 459 00:21:16,850 --> 00:21:19,790 you won't see anything different than if you put a thousand 460 00:21:19,790 --> 00:21:21,110 atoms in. 461 00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:22,730 And that has-- for many problems. 462 00:21:22,730 --> 00:21:25,850 For many problems, not all, but for many cool materials-design 463 00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:27,380 problems, that's the case. 464 00:21:27,380 --> 00:21:30,230 And that's why this is such a nice sweet spot of a method 465 00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:33,950 because it hits in this range where the stuff we care about, 466 00:21:33,950 --> 00:21:36,440 electrons, happen to kind of play 467 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,310 in this phase space of distance. 468 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:41,930 That's where DFT is. 469 00:21:41,930 --> 00:21:43,840 That's why it's so powerful. 470 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,660 Any questions? 471 00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:50,425 And right, I'm not going to review. 472 00:21:50,425 --> 00:21:51,800 I just kind of went through this. 473 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,110 The approximation is to work with the density, 474 00:21:56,110 --> 00:21:59,920 and you sort of throw everything into a density formalism, 475 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:04,630 and you punt on the exchange-- on this interaction term that's 476 00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:08,440 all about this V. So density functional theory is about what 477 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,000 functional you use to capture these many-body effects 478 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,670 in a single-particle way. 479 00:22:15,670 --> 00:22:19,600 That's really what it comes down to. 480 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,710 And this is all sort of review, right? 481 00:22:23,710 --> 00:22:25,880 I kind of went through this. 482 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,580 You will not be tested on this math, 483 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:29,663 but I think you went through it already last week. 484 00:22:29,663 --> 00:22:30,610 Correct? 485 00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:31,870 Some nods. 486 00:22:31,870 --> 00:22:32,920 OK. 487 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:42,120 And so you get basically an equation 488 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:45,450 where the potential that I just showed you 489 00:22:45,450 --> 00:22:53,550 can be written as this potential plus this exchange correlation 490 00:22:53,550 --> 00:22:58,200 functional, which is basically a function only of this one 491 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,100 electron. 492 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:00,520 That's why it works so well. 493 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:06,195 It's not a function anymore of all these other electrons. 494 00:23:06,195 --> 00:23:08,670 I kind of want to make sure we get the key points. 495 00:23:11,810 --> 00:23:15,170 Now the way you solve this in a computer, which 496 00:23:15,170 --> 00:23:20,220 is what the nanoHUB does for you when it works-- 497 00:23:20,220 --> 00:23:22,684 I had some interesting crashes last night on the nanoHUB-- 498 00:23:25,410 --> 00:23:28,375 is basically you have this equation. 499 00:23:28,375 --> 00:23:30,000 So what density functional theory does, 500 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,690 you see, this is the beauty of it. 501 00:23:33,690 --> 00:23:35,460 What does that look like to you? 502 00:23:35,460 --> 00:23:39,870 I mean, that looks like something that we did. , 503 00:23:39,870 --> 00:23:41,700 That's definitely your Hamiltonian, 504 00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:44,280 but this equation now-- remember the many-body, 505 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,460 multiparticle mess that we just showed you? 506 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:49,740 Now we're back from that to this. 507 00:23:49,740 --> 00:23:53,640 What does that look like, it's reminiscent of, 508 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,780 and for which material? 509 00:23:57,780 --> 00:24:00,140 It sort of looks back like hydrogen almost, right? 510 00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:05,410 That's not as simple as hydrogen because V is now more complex, 511 00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:07,350 but it basically turned the problem back 512 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:08,800 into a single-particle problem. 513 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,500 So now that's the equation we solve 514 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:13,200 once we go through the density functional theory 515 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,930 approximation. 516 00:24:15,930 --> 00:24:18,210 And you have to solve it in what's 517 00:24:18,210 --> 00:24:21,300 called a self-consistent way, which 518 00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:26,910 is to say you have to start with a guess for your density. 519 00:24:26,910 --> 00:24:29,880 You plug it into the equation, and you get out 520 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,527 these wave functions. 521 00:24:32,527 --> 00:24:34,860 So you do get wave functions in density function theory, 522 00:24:34,860 --> 00:24:39,870 but they're essentially just a basis for the density. 523 00:24:39,870 --> 00:24:42,580 The conceptual framework is to work with the density. 524 00:24:42,580 --> 00:24:44,280 So you start with the density. 525 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,303 You plug it into here, and you solve this. 526 00:24:46,303 --> 00:24:48,720 The computer solves this, and it gets you a wave function. 527 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,960 And then from that wave function you can get a new density 528 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,670 because the density is, after all, just 529 00:24:53,670 --> 00:24:55,380 this sum over these things squared. 530 00:24:55,380 --> 00:24:58,620 We know that because we talked about how that's what 531 00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:00,420 density is, electron density. 532 00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:03,930 So does everybody know what I'm talking about? 533 00:25:03,930 --> 00:25:08,690 Probability-- electron density is where it is. 534 00:25:08,690 --> 00:25:12,750 It's a probability distribution. 535 00:25:12,750 --> 00:25:14,750 And so that you get from that. 536 00:25:14,750 --> 00:25:15,750 You put it back in here. 537 00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:20,055 You do it again, and basically you stop when what? 538 00:25:20,055 --> 00:25:20,937 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 539 00:25:20,937 --> 00:25:22,770 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: When you're about right. 540 00:25:22,770 --> 00:25:24,390 I love that answer. 541 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:26,430 Tell me more. 542 00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:27,210 When do you stop? 543 00:25:27,210 --> 00:25:30,660 If it's a self-consistent loop, I guess for this. 544 00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:31,660 I put it in here. 545 00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:33,360 I get a new set of these. 546 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,670 They give me a new this, and I put that back in there, 547 00:25:35,670 --> 00:25:36,900 and I get a new set. 548 00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:39,120 When should I stop? 549 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:40,250 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 550 00:25:40,250 --> 00:25:42,478 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Yeah, when it doesn't change, 551 00:25:42,478 --> 00:25:43,770 when the answer doesn't change. 552 00:25:43,770 --> 00:25:46,190 And so that's what this is showing you here. 553 00:25:46,190 --> 00:25:49,790 Is it self-consistent means it didn't change, basically. 554 00:25:49,790 --> 00:25:53,417 You did this loop, and it didn't change. 555 00:25:53,417 --> 00:25:55,250 And that's what it'll look like in the code. 556 00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:57,190 You'll see energies, total energies 557 00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:59,140 coming out of the system, and they'll 558 00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:01,707 be sort of converging to a value. 559 00:26:01,707 --> 00:26:03,790 And then the code will say, OK, it's close enough. 560 00:26:10,010 --> 00:26:13,760 Now the other key thing is you have to write these phis. 561 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,840 When you talk about a phi-- 562 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,330 so this is the Schrodinger equation. 563 00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:25,270 And then you write the psi in terms of some set of orbitals. 564 00:26:25,270 --> 00:26:28,360 But to write an orbital-- 565 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:31,840 I mean, if I want to write anything-- 566 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,940 if I want to write anything on a computer-- that's 567 00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:35,230 my electron density. 568 00:26:35,230 --> 00:26:36,520 It's my orbital. 569 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,250 I need to represent it mathematically somehow. 570 00:26:39,250 --> 00:26:42,520 The computer can't just take that. 571 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,860 So you need functions to represent these, 572 00:26:44,860 --> 00:26:47,530 and those are called basis functions. 573 00:26:47,530 --> 00:26:49,240 So those basis functions-- and you 574 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,580 can use different kinds of basis functions. 575 00:26:51,580 --> 00:26:54,050 You can use Gaussians. 576 00:26:54,050 --> 00:26:55,120 You can just use-- 577 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:58,570 if I want Gaussians, I would put a nice one there and then maybe 578 00:26:58,570 --> 00:27:00,530 some more ones here. 579 00:27:00,530 --> 00:27:01,813 Well, that wouldn't work. 580 00:27:01,813 --> 00:27:03,730 Anyway, you need a bunch of Gaussians centered 581 00:27:03,730 --> 00:27:05,770 in different places, and you add them up, 582 00:27:05,770 --> 00:27:09,070 and they'd give you that function back, approximately. 583 00:27:09,070 --> 00:27:12,790 So we have to represent these things with basis functions. 584 00:27:12,790 --> 00:27:17,860 You can use plane waves, which are really good for solids. 585 00:27:17,860 --> 00:27:20,810 You can use plane waves for atoms as well. 586 00:27:20,810 --> 00:27:21,370 They're nice. 587 00:27:21,370 --> 00:27:23,995 Plane waves are nice for solids because they're periodic, which 588 00:27:23,995 --> 00:27:26,270 is what your wave function is. 589 00:27:26,270 --> 00:27:27,280 Gesundheit. 590 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,060 Gesundheit. 591 00:27:28,060 --> 00:27:30,878 The double. 592 00:27:30,878 --> 00:27:32,920 You can use them for atoms and molecules as well, 593 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,750 but you have to be a little careful because a plane 594 00:27:36,750 --> 00:27:40,150 wave goes through the whole cell of the simulation, 595 00:27:40,150 --> 00:27:42,330 but your molecule only takes up a small part of it. 596 00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:43,830 So with plane waves, you're actually 597 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:45,880 sort of wasting those functions. 598 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,430 But if you do it in a smart way, it's not so bad. 599 00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:52,410 All right, so that's sort of-- 600 00:27:52,410 --> 00:27:54,180 I wanted to kind of touch on that. 601 00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:58,440 This is a really cool movie that Lynn found. 602 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,500 Why do we care? 603 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:01,080 Well, this is the kind of thing you 604 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,760 can do when you know where these electrons are 605 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,760 for complex systems. 606 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,040 This is a porphyrin ring. 607 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,300 I think it's got zinc in the center from this group here. 608 00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:16,108 And you can actually show-- 609 00:28:16,108 --> 00:28:17,900 this is a computation, and you can actually 610 00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:19,850 show what happens to the electrons-- 611 00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:22,550 the density of electrons when you shine lasers on it. 612 00:28:22,550 --> 00:28:25,042 Now it turns out that this is-- and there it is. 613 00:28:25,042 --> 00:28:26,750 So now you're going to push on the system 614 00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:30,020 with lasers, which cause a resonance, 615 00:28:30,020 --> 00:28:31,790 and it causes these electrons to start 616 00:28:31,790 --> 00:28:35,780 sloshing back and forth as you pump this porphyrin 617 00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:36,620 ring with lasers. 618 00:28:36,620 --> 00:28:39,350 So you can see the lasers down here. 619 00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:40,550 They're not actually real. 620 00:28:40,550 --> 00:28:42,020 It's a computation. 621 00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:45,428 But what you see is very important. 622 00:28:45,428 --> 00:28:46,220 Look at that slosh. 623 00:28:46,220 --> 00:28:46,880 Look at that. 624 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,220 Now that is really important. 625 00:28:49,220 --> 00:28:53,600 The sloshing of those electrons is really, really important 626 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,610 for how this molecule absorbs light, 627 00:28:56,610 --> 00:29:00,690 and that's why it was studied because this is what we're 628 00:29:00,690 --> 00:29:05,190 going to end with today is where those electrons are determines 629 00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:07,380 the band gap of the molecule, and it determines 630 00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:09,900 its optical properties, what we talked 631 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:11,970 about in the very beginning, something we really 632 00:29:11,970 --> 00:29:16,830 need when we're talking about photoactive materials 633 00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:17,760 like porphyrin. 634 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,270 And porphyrin has many important properties, right? 635 00:29:21,270 --> 00:29:22,880 It's a beautiful molecule. 636 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,630 These are the kinds of molecules and these 637 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:26,910 are the kinds of things you can get now 638 00:29:26,910 --> 00:29:28,740 using these approximations. 639 00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:33,000 You can get electron densities and then correlate those 640 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,490 to something really important. 641 00:29:34,490 --> 00:29:36,810 And that's what we're going to do by the end of today 642 00:29:36,810 --> 00:29:39,150 and in our homeworks for solar thermal fuels. 643 00:29:42,770 --> 00:29:46,160 Do you guys want me to post these videos on Steller? 644 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,870 Do you guys look at the Stellar stuff? 645 00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:49,370 OK, I'll definitely do that then. 646 00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:51,230 I wasn't sure if anybody-- 647 00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:52,730 OK. 648 00:29:52,730 --> 00:29:53,490 So any questions? 649 00:29:53,490 --> 00:29:55,657 So that was sort of a little review of where we are. 650 00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:59,860 Let's do a calculation. 651 00:29:59,860 --> 00:30:02,800 Actually, before we move on, let's just do a calc-- 652 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,490 now that's a little embarrassing. 653 00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:06,710 Let's put that over here. 654 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:09,680 That was taken a few years ago. 655 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,360 Now there's MIT. 656 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,980 Oh yeah. 657 00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:17,526 It was out in Berkeley, yeah. 658 00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:22,290 Now let's see if this works. 659 00:30:22,290 --> 00:30:22,790 Aha! 660 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,030 Now the two tools that matter for quantum mechanics 661 00:30:29,030 --> 00:30:31,700 in this toolset are quantum chemistry-- and this 662 00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:32,810 is doing just what I said. 663 00:30:32,810 --> 00:30:34,893 It's doing what those quantum chemists like to do. 664 00:30:34,893 --> 00:30:37,010 It's messing with the wave function. 665 00:30:37,010 --> 00:30:39,260 And this is the density functional theory code 666 00:30:39,260 --> 00:30:42,490 we're going to use SIESTA, which is a cool name. 667 00:30:42,490 --> 00:30:45,873 And this is actually messing with the density. 668 00:30:45,873 --> 00:30:47,290 This is density functional theory. 669 00:30:47,290 --> 00:30:49,180 Although this now, like I said, the two communities 670 00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:49,990 have overlapped. 671 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:53,545 This code now can also do density functional theory. 672 00:30:53,545 --> 00:30:55,420 But these are the two quantum-mechanics codes 673 00:30:55,420 --> 00:30:56,570 we're going to use. 674 00:30:56,570 --> 00:30:58,390 And if you go-- let's say you go to here. 675 00:30:58,390 --> 00:31:01,660 I just want to just do one little calculation together. 676 00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:08,900 And what I want to do is the following. 677 00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:10,340 There's some inputs here that are 678 00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:11,960 worth-- oh, you're kidding me. 679 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,605 I can't scroll. 680 00:31:15,890 --> 00:31:16,840 Unbelievable. 681 00:31:21,370 --> 00:31:26,930 Well, that's really frustrating. 682 00:31:26,930 --> 00:31:30,160 So there's no way-- it doesn't let me actually 683 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,450 scroll down here. 684 00:31:31,450 --> 00:31:32,680 Oh, there. 685 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,640 Thank you. 686 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,190 OK, I'm good. 687 00:31:36,190 --> 00:31:40,297 So here you see it's got water, and there are some things 688 00:31:40,297 --> 00:31:41,380 you can do-- that's right. 689 00:31:41,380 --> 00:31:44,080 So the cursor has to actually be over there. 690 00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:48,410 And here are some inputs. 691 00:31:48,410 --> 00:31:50,960 So we'll work with water. 692 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,520 That's the basis set. 693 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,590 Low means like what? 694 00:31:54,590 --> 00:31:56,540 Do you think that's good or bad? 695 00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:58,220 Yeah, it's not very good. 696 00:31:58,220 --> 00:32:01,220 Medium and high, those are the three options. 697 00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:03,500 Now G means Gaussians. 698 00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:06,800 The other person who won the Nobel Prize together with Kohn 699 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,140 that year was Pople, and Pople won it 700 00:32:11,140 --> 00:32:13,330 for some really important work that he 701 00:32:13,330 --> 00:32:16,730 did relating to these basis sets, basically, 702 00:32:16,730 --> 00:32:19,580 and some important chemistry work he'd done. 703 00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:23,300 But that G stands for Gaussian, and the 3-21G 704 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:26,260 is a set that he made which became 705 00:32:26,260 --> 00:32:29,020 incredibly important to helping quantum chemistry move forward. 706 00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:32,080 He made sets of basis sets. 707 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,560 And if you google "basis set order form," 708 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,750 there's a website where you can enter any element, 709 00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:42,620 and there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of basis 710 00:32:42,620 --> 00:32:45,610 sets that have been developed and published, 711 00:32:45,610 --> 00:32:47,092 and these are some of them. 712 00:32:47,092 --> 00:32:48,550 And this is just-- you go from here 713 00:32:48,550 --> 00:32:49,450 to the next and the next one. 714 00:32:49,450 --> 00:32:51,320 You just add more functions, basically, 715 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,650 and so the calculation gets longer. 716 00:32:54,650 --> 00:32:57,870 When is it enough? 717 00:32:57,870 --> 00:32:59,580 When do I have enough of a basis set? 718 00:32:59,580 --> 00:33:01,330 That was one question I wanted to discuss. 719 00:33:07,770 --> 00:33:09,740 10? 720 00:33:09,740 --> 00:33:10,990 Oh, I love that answer. 721 00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:13,790 I thought 10 was pretty good too. 722 00:33:13,790 --> 00:33:15,410 It depends. 723 00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:16,700 That's the answer. 724 00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:18,820 Now what does it depend on? 725 00:33:18,820 --> 00:33:20,820 AUDIENCE: What kind of calculation you're doing. 726 00:33:20,820 --> 00:33:21,420 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: And? 727 00:33:21,420 --> 00:33:22,290 AUDIENCE: How accurate you want the results to be. 728 00:33:22,290 --> 00:33:23,850 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: How accurate you want your results to be, 729 00:33:23,850 --> 00:33:25,410 what calculation you're doing. 730 00:33:25,410 --> 00:33:27,897 What do you mean by what calculation you're doing? 731 00:33:27,897 --> 00:33:29,272 AUDIENCE: If you just want energy 732 00:33:29,272 --> 00:33:31,860 or whether you want to get properties [INAUDIBLE].. 733 00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:33,690 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: OK, so the property. 734 00:33:33,690 --> 00:33:37,010 It depends on the property you're calculating. 735 00:33:37,010 --> 00:33:38,850 How do you know when to stop? 736 00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:42,410 So I'm going to do a calculation with 3-21G, 737 00:33:42,410 --> 00:33:47,520 and I'm going to calculate the water molecule using 738 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,870 the formalism you just saw. 739 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:50,448 That's what this code is doing. 740 00:33:50,448 --> 00:33:52,740 And you're going to see a nice pretty picture of water. 741 00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:53,970 There it is. 742 00:33:53,970 --> 00:33:57,160 And then you have these key outputs. 743 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,050 And there's my total energy. 744 00:33:59,050 --> 00:34:01,360 My total energy of this water molecule 745 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,860 is 2,056.56 electronvolts. 746 00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:06,465 Yes? 747 00:34:06,465 --> 00:34:08,110 AUDIENCE: What's a basis set? 748 00:34:08,110 --> 00:34:09,152 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Yeah. 749 00:34:09,152 --> 00:34:12,429 So a basis set is those functions 750 00:34:12,429 --> 00:34:17,480 that the computer needs to represent the wave functions. 751 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,440 So if this is your wave function-- 752 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,440 if your wave function looks like this-- 753 00:34:27,150 --> 00:34:31,520 let's say this is phi versus r. 754 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,120 By the way, does anybody know which wave function this is? 755 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,239 That is a wave function. 756 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,739 I didn't just make it up. 757 00:34:37,739 --> 00:34:39,090 It belongs to an element. 758 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,409 It's the 1s orbital of hydrogen. You got it. 759 00:34:46,409 --> 00:34:48,900 That's the r dependence of the 1s orbital of hydrogen. 760 00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:50,770 It looks like an exponential. 761 00:34:50,770 --> 00:34:53,370 So should I use an exponential to represent 762 00:34:53,370 --> 00:34:55,239 this in a computer? 763 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,900 You bet except no, and the reason 764 00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:03,340 is that those are slow to calculate. 765 00:35:03,340 --> 00:35:06,590 Exponentials are kind of slow, exponential functions. 766 00:35:06,590 --> 00:35:09,230 So early on exponentials were used, 767 00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:11,230 and then it was realized that you could actually 768 00:35:11,230 --> 00:35:18,550 represent this pretty darn well with Gaussians, like three 769 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:20,930 or four Gaussians, and you'd kind of get it right. 770 00:35:20,930 --> 00:35:22,330 You'd never get this part here. 771 00:35:22,330 --> 00:35:25,300 You can't get a finite slope at zero with Gaussians, 772 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:27,820 but you can come so close that it doesn't matter. 773 00:35:27,820 --> 00:35:30,555 And so because Gaussians have advantages-- 774 00:35:30,555 --> 00:35:31,930 we won't go into details, but I'm 775 00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:33,440 happy to talk to anybody who wants. 776 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,870 Gaussians have advantages in terms 777 00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:37,470 of computing integrals on computers 778 00:35:37,470 --> 00:35:41,850 so that you can actually use some of the formalism that's 779 00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:44,160 been developed to do integration with Gaussians 780 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,800 and do it very quickly and efficiently. 781 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,000 You cannot do it with exponentials. 782 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,600 And because of that, the chemists early on 783 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,790 started using Gaussians for their basic sets, 784 00:35:53,790 --> 00:35:56,820 and all these Pople sets, those are all Gaussians. 785 00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:58,500 Now when you use plane waves, that's 786 00:35:58,500 --> 00:35:59,760 a different kind of function. 787 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,750 That's a sine and cosine function. 788 00:36:02,750 --> 00:36:06,660 And so there you're using functions like this 789 00:36:06,660 --> 00:36:09,270 to reproduce your psi. 790 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:10,920 Either way, what you're doing is you're 791 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,330 going to add a bunch of functions 792 00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:15,600 together to try to make up your psi, 793 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,845 and you've got to have enough to do it justice. 794 00:36:17,845 --> 00:36:19,470 And that was the question is how do you 795 00:36:19,470 --> 00:36:20,637 know when you've had enough? 796 00:36:20,637 --> 00:36:24,840 It's a very important part and problem in quantum mechanics-- 797 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,400 in computing with quantum mechanics 798 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,060 that doesn't exist in classical potentials, right? 799 00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:32,970 See, classical potentials, this is not a convergence problem. 800 00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:34,920 You don't converge your basis set. 801 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,460 You just have a potential, and you calculate it. 802 00:36:39,460 --> 00:36:42,340 Here you have to represent psi mathematically somehow. 803 00:36:42,340 --> 00:36:43,840 Here you're doing it with Gaussians. 804 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,570 With SIESTA, actually it's not plane waves. 805 00:36:46,570 --> 00:36:51,670 It's a different kind of function like Gaussians. 806 00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:53,900 But in a way, it doesn't matter. 807 00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:57,053 They should all converge to the same answer, right? 808 00:36:57,053 --> 00:36:58,720 You just have to understand that this is 809 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,230 what's going on under the hood. 810 00:37:00,230 --> 00:37:02,110 So again I ask, when is it enough? 811 00:37:02,110 --> 00:37:04,228 When do I have enough basis functions? 812 00:37:08,448 --> 00:37:10,990 AUDIENCE: When you approximate your wave function well enough 813 00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:12,100 with your basis set. 814 00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,433 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: And how do I know if I've done that? 815 00:37:17,330 --> 00:37:19,700 AUDIENCE: When you check for self-consistency. 816 00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:21,050 Is that [INAUDIBLE]? 817 00:37:21,050 --> 00:37:25,090 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: That's within a single calculation. 818 00:37:25,090 --> 00:37:28,920 How do I know I've used a good-enough basis set? 819 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,270 Well, let's go back. 820 00:37:30,270 --> 00:37:32,570 Let's go back a second to what Sam said. 821 00:37:32,570 --> 00:37:34,530 It depends on the property. 822 00:37:34,530 --> 00:37:36,290 So now I'm going to tell you a property. 823 00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:41,700 I want to know the binding energy of a water molecule. 824 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:44,247 How can I calculate that? 825 00:37:44,247 --> 00:37:45,830 Somebody tell me how I calculate that. 826 00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:47,535 I have the energy of the water molecule. 827 00:37:47,535 --> 00:37:48,660 Is that the binding energy? 828 00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:49,705 Yeah? 829 00:37:49,705 --> 00:37:51,580 AUDIENCE: The atoms that are really far away, 830 00:37:51,580 --> 00:37:52,286 and then you calculate the energy. 831 00:37:52,286 --> 00:37:54,273 And then if they have energy with them 832 00:37:54,273 --> 00:37:56,690 close together minus the far away, that will [INAUDIBLE].. 833 00:37:56,690 --> 00:37:57,857 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Exactly. 834 00:37:57,857 --> 00:38:02,720 So the energy-- so the binding energy, E bind, 835 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:08,247 is equal to the energy of the molecule minus the energy sum 836 00:38:08,247 --> 00:38:09,455 over the energy of the atoms. 837 00:38:12,050 --> 00:38:14,030 So that's the property I want to calculate. 838 00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:15,740 It could have been another property. 839 00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:19,060 Could have been-- let's say this is the gap. 840 00:38:19,060 --> 00:38:21,560 Yeah, it could have been the electronic gap of the material. 841 00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:27,038 Now how do I know if I've used enough basis functions? 842 00:38:27,038 --> 00:38:28,080 This is really important. 843 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,783 Yeah? 844 00:38:29,783 --> 00:38:30,950 AUDIENCE: Experimental data. 845 00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:32,158 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: OK, good. 846 00:38:32,158 --> 00:38:33,920 See if it matches experimental data. 847 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,110 Except there may be other reasons 848 00:38:37,110 --> 00:38:43,530 it doesn't match experimental data, not just the basis set. 849 00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:45,780 So how do I know if I've just converged the basis set? 850 00:38:54,418 --> 00:38:56,210 AUDIENCE: Get the lattice parameters of it. 851 00:38:56,210 --> 00:38:59,150 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: OK or along those 852 00:38:59,150 --> 00:39:02,020 lines, but that's still comparing with experiment, 853 00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:06,740 which is always a good thing to do when you can. 854 00:39:06,740 --> 00:39:08,480 Well, what if I just do this calculation 855 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,610 and then I do another one with a higher basis set 856 00:39:10,610 --> 00:39:13,210 and it doesn't change? 857 00:39:13,210 --> 00:39:15,000 How about that? 858 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,860 Well, it's the same as the self-consistent thing. 859 00:39:17,860 --> 00:39:22,060 Once the answer doesn't change, I've converged. 860 00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:24,192 But this isn't part of a single calculation now. 861 00:39:24,192 --> 00:39:25,900 This is part of more than one calculation 862 00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:26,733 that you have to do. 863 00:39:29,470 --> 00:39:33,010 So I'm going to go to a larger basis set like medium 864 00:39:33,010 --> 00:39:35,500 and do simulate. 865 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,330 And then it's going to calculate this, 866 00:39:37,330 --> 00:39:38,560 and let's see what happened. 867 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,540 The gap-- OK, there it is again. 868 00:39:40,540 --> 00:39:41,910 Thank you. 869 00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:43,810 The gap went to 19. 870 00:39:43,810 --> 00:39:44,550 Oh boy. 871 00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:47,160 So now my key output-- 872 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,190 let's see, is 2,068.6 electrons-- 873 00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:55,220 electronvolts-- is the energy with this basis set. 874 00:39:55,220 --> 00:39:56,490 Everything else is the same. 875 00:39:56,490 --> 00:40:00,770 And with the first basis set, it's 2,056 electronvolts. 876 00:40:00,770 --> 00:40:03,170 Am I converged? 877 00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:06,240 Trick question. 878 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:09,550 You still don't know. 879 00:40:09,550 --> 00:40:12,730 Well, except there's something else to it 880 00:40:12,730 --> 00:40:15,200 that I'm trying to get out of you guys. 881 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,560 It's not an easy-- it's not an easy thing to see, 882 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,990 but it's really important because we're 883 00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:22,210 talking about something called convergence 884 00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:24,920 that you don't really have in your classical force fields. 885 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,560 You just have a classical force field, 886 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,500 and then you have another one or another one, right? 887 00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:32,140 But here we're converging within one calculation, 888 00:40:32,140 --> 00:40:34,520 one level of theory. 889 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,940 And so what counts-- 890 00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:39,350 you have to do this when you do simulations. 891 00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:43,620 But what counts here is not the total energy. 892 00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:44,120 Why? 893 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,760 Because that's not the thing I'm trying to converge. 894 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,310 I'm trying to converge this I said, 895 00:40:49,310 --> 00:40:53,340 the binding energy, which is a difference of energies. 896 00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:58,700 And it very well may be that the binding energy converges 897 00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:01,580 with a really bad basis set right away 898 00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:05,987 and doesn't change when I get my next basis set or my next one. 899 00:41:05,987 --> 00:41:07,820 Even though the total energies are changing, 900 00:41:07,820 --> 00:41:10,040 they're changing in such a way that the error cancels 901 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,600 completely. 902 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,430 This is the thing. 903 00:41:14,430 --> 00:41:17,680 It depends-- that's why I love it depends. 904 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,440 It depends is such a great answer-- 905 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,950 on the property you're simulating, 906 00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:25,650 and you have to do convergence for the property you 907 00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:26,220 care about. 908 00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:27,600 It could have been the gap. 909 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,600 20.7 was the low basis, and the higher basis is 19.7. 910 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,200 That's a whole EV difference in the electronic gap. 911 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,700 That's a lot of difference. 912 00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:40,020 That doesn't sound very good. 913 00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:42,353 Maybe we should go to-- let's say we care about the gap. 914 00:41:42,353 --> 00:41:44,120 Let's go to one higher. 915 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,810 Use a higher basis set. 916 00:41:46,810 --> 00:41:51,590 And we see here now the gap, oh, it changed again. 917 00:41:51,590 --> 00:41:52,410 Uh oh. 918 00:41:56,510 --> 00:41:59,390 And so now it went to 18. 919 00:41:59,390 --> 00:42:02,060 So we had, with the highest basis set, 920 00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:07,590 18, with the medium one, 19, and with the lowest one, 20. 921 00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:09,273 So you can see it's actually going down, 922 00:42:09,273 --> 00:42:10,940 which means the right answer is probably 923 00:42:10,940 --> 00:42:13,108 going to be even lower. 924 00:42:13,108 --> 00:42:14,150 Does that look converged? 925 00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:15,080 Not to me. 926 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,140 You actually need a higher basis set still. 927 00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:21,547 This tool won't allow it because it's not a very flexible tool, 928 00:42:21,547 --> 00:42:22,130 but that's OK. 929 00:42:22,130 --> 00:42:23,690 That's not the point. 930 00:42:23,690 --> 00:42:25,250 So does everybody understand what 931 00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:26,990 I'm talking about when I say convergence? 932 00:42:26,990 --> 00:42:29,300 We will come back to convergence again 933 00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:32,330 when we do solids because there's another thing in solids 934 00:42:32,330 --> 00:42:35,990 you have to converge, not just your basis set but something 935 00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:37,850 else, which we'll come back to and I'm 936 00:42:37,850 --> 00:42:43,150 going to save it as a surprise, very exciting surprise. 937 00:42:43,150 --> 00:42:47,770 So we know that it can calculate the binding energy of water. 938 00:42:47,770 --> 00:42:50,470 There's one more question I want to ask you about, this spin 939 00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:51,850 thing here. 940 00:42:51,850 --> 00:42:56,030 Default-- default means that it took a guess. 941 00:42:56,030 --> 00:42:58,700 And you can see that the guess it made for water 942 00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:00,620 is that it's a spin singlet. 943 00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:03,990 Now we talked about this in lecture two. 944 00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:07,390 Does everybody know what a spin singlet means? 945 00:43:07,390 --> 00:43:11,050 So we're talking about electrons filling orbitals. 946 00:43:11,050 --> 00:43:13,510 Remember, we're solving for those electrons, 947 00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:16,730 and they fill orbitals like this. 948 00:43:16,730 --> 00:43:22,250 Remember Pauli exclusion and all that and filling-- 949 00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:22,820 OK? 950 00:43:22,820 --> 00:43:27,290 Now if I-- this is the last question I want to ask. 951 00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:30,230 Then we'll go back to the lecture. 952 00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:32,300 Oxygen is 1s. 953 00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:36,962 Somebody tell me what else is in oxygen. How many electrons? 954 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,150 Three? 955 00:43:41,150 --> 00:43:42,320 Eight. 956 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,715 So 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 957 00:43:46,715 --> 00:43:47,600 Right? 958 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:48,200 Good. 959 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,260 Very good. 960 00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:54,020 Now, is that a spin singlet? 961 00:43:54,020 --> 00:43:58,290 Does everybody remember what singlet, doublet, triplet-- 962 00:43:58,290 --> 00:44:01,380 so singlet, triplet, doublet is very important 963 00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:05,810 because it tells the computer how these electrons are 964 00:44:05,810 --> 00:44:07,550 filling these orbitals. 965 00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:09,350 So that's another really important part 966 00:44:09,350 --> 00:44:10,340 of these simulations. 967 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,300 A singlet means that overall you have 968 00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:18,460 the same number of spins pointing up 969 00:44:18,460 --> 00:44:20,410 as spins pointing down. 970 00:44:20,410 --> 00:44:22,230 Is that what I have for oxygen? 971 00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:25,230 Uh uh. 972 00:44:25,230 --> 00:44:31,470 So a doublet is when I have one more pointing up or down, 973 00:44:31,470 --> 00:44:35,880 and a triplet is when I have two extra electrons pointing 974 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,140 up or down. 975 00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:39,030 Doesn't matter. 976 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:45,580 So this is actually-- the oxygen atom is a triplet. 977 00:44:45,580 --> 00:44:46,620 Now what about water? 978 00:44:46,620 --> 00:44:49,640 Well, it turns out water is a singlet. 979 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,620 So the default guessed it correctly. 980 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:55,530 Let's do the oxygen atom. 981 00:44:55,530 --> 00:44:59,270 Well, the code will do whatever spin state you say. 982 00:44:59,270 --> 00:45:06,505 I'm going to say now that I just want oxygen. So there it is. 983 00:45:06,505 --> 00:45:08,130 I'm going to do it with the same basis. 984 00:45:14,140 --> 00:45:16,780 And now here it is, and oh, that's 985 00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:21,880 a beautiful picture of oxygen. And now you go to key outputs, 986 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,990 and there's the energy. 987 00:45:22,990 --> 00:45:26,390 OK, so I'm going to do my calculation of this binding 988 00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:26,890 energy. 989 00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:29,470 I just calculated the energy of the atom. 990 00:45:29,470 --> 00:45:32,380 Can I use that? 991 00:45:32,380 --> 00:45:34,740 What's wrong with that? 992 00:45:34,740 --> 00:45:37,410 Look at the top line. 993 00:45:37,410 --> 00:45:41,670 No, second from the top line. 994 00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:44,380 What did it do? 995 00:45:44,380 --> 00:45:45,140 It did a singlet. 996 00:45:45,140 --> 00:45:46,180 Uh oh. 997 00:45:46,180 --> 00:45:47,230 It did this. 998 00:45:47,230 --> 00:45:48,970 It defaulted incorrectly. 999 00:45:48,970 --> 00:45:52,400 Never trust tools. 1000 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,650 Always know what you're doing. 1001 00:45:53,650 --> 00:45:54,370 That's my point. 1002 00:45:54,370 --> 00:45:57,128 And these are the key things you need to know. 1003 00:45:57,128 --> 00:45:58,920 You need to know that the basis, and you've 1004 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,320 got to know about spin. 1005 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,050 You've got to know how those electrons filled their levels. 1006 00:46:03,050 --> 00:46:09,280 And what this calculation did is it did this. 1007 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,210 Did it get an answer? 1008 00:46:10,210 --> 00:46:11,260 Sure. 1009 00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:13,350 Is it oxygen? 1010 00:46:13,350 --> 00:46:14,100 Well, yes. 1011 00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:18,000 in some very strange, excited state of oxygen. But 1012 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,530 that's not the right state of oxygen. 1013 00:46:20,530 --> 00:46:23,190 And, in fact, you can tell because remember 1014 00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:25,800 this energy, 2,032.1? 1015 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,530 And now let's give it the right spin state. 1016 00:46:28,530 --> 00:46:31,530 Let's make it a triplet, which we know oxygen is, 1017 00:46:31,530 --> 00:46:35,520 and let's see what the energy is. 1018 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,660 OK, go away. 1019 00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:38,220 I know you're there. 1020 00:46:38,220 --> 00:46:41,240 Yes, that's the oxygen atom. 1021 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:45,980 And now when I use the right spin state, it's 2,035.6. 1022 00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:48,170 Do you see how much lower the energy went? 1023 00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:54,720 Because, see, the right oxygen is the way oxygen wants to be. 1024 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,980 It's the ground state of that atom. 1025 00:46:57,980 --> 00:47:02,300 If I compare it with this excited state, 1026 00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:05,990 it's three electronvolts higher in energy. 1027 00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:07,660 The more negative, the more stable, 1028 00:47:07,660 --> 00:47:12,810 the more energy that has, the more happy those electrons are. 1029 00:47:12,810 --> 00:47:14,895 So that means that the electrons and oxygen really 1030 00:47:14,895 --> 00:47:16,770 want to be in a triplet state, and you better 1031 00:47:16,770 --> 00:47:20,250 use that energy to do things like calculate 1032 00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:21,360 the binding energy. 1033 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,870 So you've got to think about the spin state. 1034 00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:24,370 So that was the other thing I wanted 1035 00:47:24,370 --> 00:47:28,965 to mention in doing this, spin state and basis sets. 1036 00:47:28,965 --> 00:47:30,280 Any questions? 1037 00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:36,090 No questions? 1038 00:47:36,090 --> 00:47:40,425 In the last half hour or so, I want to get to-- 1039 00:47:40,425 --> 00:47:43,110 oh, 35 minutes even-- 1040 00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:44,790 I want to get to this first application 1041 00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:46,470 that I'm really excited about. 1042 00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:48,512 And I think you're kind of now in a place where 1043 00:47:48,512 --> 00:47:50,220 we can actually think about these-- think 1044 00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:55,260 about applications for molecules. 1045 00:47:55,260 --> 00:47:56,490 And that's an area-- 1046 00:47:56,490 --> 00:47:59,400 I want to introduce solar chemical fuels to you, 1047 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,610 and then we're going to talk about why this kind of modeling 1048 00:48:02,610 --> 00:48:05,380 is so important here and what we can do. 1049 00:48:05,380 --> 00:48:08,640 And then you'll have a homework related to this. 1050 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,560 OK, I love this. 1051 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,840 I love that materials are going to determine-- 1052 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,600 and then here we are down here. 1053 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,590 I love this too. 1054 00:48:16,590 --> 00:48:18,480 I think I've shown this to you, right, 1055 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,550 but it never hurts to show this again 1056 00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:23,730 because it's a cool picture, and this is where we live. 1057 00:48:23,730 --> 00:48:25,020 We're past silicon, man. 1058 00:48:25,020 --> 00:48:25,680 That's old. 1059 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,240 Never better against silicon. 1060 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:27,990 Never. 1061 00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:29,910 It's still a really important material. 1062 00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:32,640 But on the left, plastics. 1063 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,640 Oh, what's that? 1064 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,970 That is, I think, a nanotube or a-- it's 1065 00:48:38,970 --> 00:48:41,820 either a nanotube or some other sort of 2D material 1066 00:48:41,820 --> 00:48:48,930 wrapped up into like a gear that I think has never been made. 1067 00:48:48,930 --> 00:48:52,770 Maybe it's not a good picture, but it looked good, 1068 00:48:52,770 --> 00:48:57,270 and I grabbed it in five seconds from Google. 1069 00:48:57,270 --> 00:49:01,440 Anyway, I'm going to skip this. 1070 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,240 I'll talk about this later. 1071 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:07,210 Solar, we get a lot of it, right? 1072 00:49:07,210 --> 00:49:08,380 You guys have seen this. 1073 00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:10,270 How many of you have seen this? 1074 00:49:10,270 --> 00:49:12,340 There's a whole lot of solar. 1075 00:49:12,340 --> 00:49:14,240 So this is a cool comparison. 1076 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:14,740 Look. 1077 00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:17,150 It beats coal. 1078 00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:18,800 I mean, forget about like we know 1079 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,330 the resource of solar beats things 1080 00:49:20,330 --> 00:49:23,510 like tidal and tides, waves, geothermal, hydro, 1081 00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:25,490 all the other renewables combined. 1082 00:49:25,490 --> 00:49:27,130 But it beats coal. 1083 00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:30,240 That's pretty cool. 1084 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:35,620 Well, biomass would be if you take all the arable land. 1085 00:49:35,620 --> 00:49:37,620 You've got to remember, these numbers-- and this 1086 00:49:37,620 --> 00:49:40,030 is the author of this fairly recent study. 1087 00:49:40,030 --> 00:49:45,032 But those numbers have many assumptions go into them, 1088 00:49:45,032 --> 00:49:46,740 and so there's a lot of debate about what 1089 00:49:46,740 --> 00:49:47,760 the right numbers are. 1090 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,640 To within a factor of 2 to 10, these 1091 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,920 are probably the right numbers. 1092 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,430 But biomass, if you take the arable land 1093 00:49:56,430 --> 00:49:59,670 where you're not going to cause a huge famine in the area 1094 00:49:59,670 --> 00:50:02,640 and you kind of add that up, you try 1095 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,680 to consider water resources and other things. 1096 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,330 You can actually compute using, say, 1097 00:50:06,330 --> 00:50:07,920 some crop or set of crops-- 1098 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,760 sugarcane, maybe other things, switchgrass-- how much energy 1099 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,790 could you generate in a year? 1100 00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:16,780 And that's about it. 1101 00:50:16,780 --> 00:50:18,120 I think-- and I don't remember. 1102 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,790 There was a number with biomass that was 11 1103 00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:22,380 that I saw for a while in the study, 1104 00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:26,190 but that was if you literally stop growing food for people 1105 00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:30,600 and you just take all land that can be used to grow anything 1106 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,885 and you make fuel, and you're still at considerably less 1107 00:50:34,885 --> 00:50:35,760 than other resources. 1108 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,210 I'm not saying biofuels isn't a really important direction. 1109 00:50:39,210 --> 00:50:42,150 But I kind of like these comparisons. 1110 00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:43,800 There we are. 1111 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,230 We use not much compared to how much we have in the sun. 1112 00:50:47,230 --> 00:50:50,110 These are the different ways you can use the sun. 1113 00:50:50,110 --> 00:50:52,030 And I want to talk about this one now. 1114 00:50:52,030 --> 00:50:53,690 So I think you know about this. 1115 00:50:53,690 --> 00:50:57,818 You take the sun, and you make a lot of heat. 1116 00:50:57,818 --> 00:50:59,360 I'm going to actually start with this 1117 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,890 because it's related to this. 1118 00:51:00,890 --> 00:51:02,810 Here we take sun and we make electrons. 1119 00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:06,470 That's going to be our next homework-assignment example 1120 00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:09,920 that we'll talk about when we do solids because from the band 1121 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,470 structure of a solid-- and the band structure 1122 00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:16,640 is nothing more than this for solids. 1123 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,350 From the band structure of a solid, 1124 00:51:18,350 --> 00:51:21,440 I can explain to you-- you can explain to your friends 1125 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,038 why silicon is so expensive-- why silicon is too expensive. 1126 00:51:26,038 --> 00:51:27,830 And then you can also take the sun's energy 1127 00:51:27,830 --> 00:51:30,510 and just try to make fuels directly out of it. 1128 00:51:30,510 --> 00:51:32,000 So what are solar thermal fuels? 1129 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,833 Well, like I said, I want to start with heat 1130 00:51:33,833 --> 00:51:34,565 because heat is-- 1131 00:51:34,565 --> 00:51:37,370 and this will be a fairly quick introduction. 1132 00:51:37,370 --> 00:51:39,680 But heat is something-- it's one of the oldest 1133 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,952 technologies we know about in terms of how to use the sun. 1134 00:51:42,952 --> 00:51:43,910 Paint the barrel black. 1135 00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:44,930 Put it on the roof. 1136 00:51:44,930 --> 00:51:45,650 Put water in it. 1137 00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:47,370 It gets hot. 1138 00:51:47,370 --> 00:51:49,290 It's a really simple technology. 1139 00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:53,380 It works really well, and it's used all over the world. 1140 00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:55,810 You can also, if you want higher temperatures because you 1141 00:51:55,810 --> 00:51:59,140 want to make electricity, you can go to large-scale plants 1142 00:51:59,140 --> 00:52:01,750 because there you need large scale because you 1143 00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:04,990 need to focus the sun's energy to get much higher temperatures 1144 00:52:04,990 --> 00:52:07,990 like, say, 500 Celsius to drive some sort of cycle 1145 00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:09,490 like a Stirling engine or something. 1146 00:52:09,490 --> 00:52:11,380 If you do that, you can make electricity. 1147 00:52:11,380 --> 00:52:15,550 Those are concentrated solar power plants. 1148 00:52:15,550 --> 00:52:16,550 Here's the distribution. 1149 00:52:16,550 --> 00:52:18,050 That is actually interesting, right? 1150 00:52:18,050 --> 00:52:21,260 This is how much-- there's sort of capacity and produced. 1151 00:52:21,260 --> 00:52:26,290 But you can see that using solar thermal as heat 1152 00:52:26,290 --> 00:52:28,720 is actually the second-most-utilized renewable 1153 00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:29,920 resource in the world. 1154 00:52:32,353 --> 00:52:33,770 But that's the painting the barrel 1155 00:52:33,770 --> 00:52:35,790 black and putting it on your rooftop. 1156 00:52:35,790 --> 00:52:37,890 That's not making electricity. 1157 00:52:37,890 --> 00:52:41,270 So in the world this is actually a very heavily used alternative 1158 00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:41,930 energy. 1159 00:52:41,930 --> 00:52:44,330 That is almost completely unused in this country. 1160 00:52:44,330 --> 00:52:47,550 I think in terms of countries that use the sun in this way, 1161 00:52:47,550 --> 00:52:50,362 we're like number 17. 1162 00:52:50,362 --> 00:52:52,820 There are some places that are trying to make power with it 1163 00:52:52,820 --> 00:52:53,600 but very few. 1164 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,640 It's a hard thing to do. 1165 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,000 I think 15 of the 20 existing CSP plants are in Spain. 1166 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,455 The Spanish love this. 1167 00:53:00,455 --> 00:53:02,330 But you can just sort of see where it stands. 1168 00:53:02,330 --> 00:53:06,530 Anyway, the point is there are challenges with using the sun's 1169 00:53:06,530 --> 00:53:08,870 energy in the form of heat. 1170 00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:11,840 One of them is that you lose the energy, reradiation. 1171 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,090 As soon as you absorb heat, it starts going out way, 1172 00:53:15,090 --> 00:53:17,052 so you've got to contain it. 1173 00:53:17,052 --> 00:53:18,260 And it's still going to leak. 1174 00:53:18,260 --> 00:53:20,720 So in some of these plants, you actually 1175 00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:23,480 pump in fossil-fuel-based energy. 1176 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,720 So you use the sun to concentrate on, say, 1177 00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:30,800 a molten salt in a tower, so a phase change of material. 1178 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,410 You get it up to really high energy over the phase change. 1179 00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:35,420 You all took 3012. 1180 00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:36,980 Know many of you did, so you know 1181 00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:38,522 about when I say phase change, you're 1182 00:53:38,522 --> 00:53:41,660 going up this heat, this latent heat, 1183 00:53:41,660 --> 00:53:44,210 and you're storing a bunch of energy that way. 1184 00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:46,490 And then you want to keep it up there. 1185 00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:48,373 So you actually pump in fossil-fuel energy 1186 00:53:48,373 --> 00:53:50,540 because it's reradiating heat out and losing energy, 1187 00:53:50,540 --> 00:53:52,207 and you don't want it to slip back down. 1188 00:53:52,207 --> 00:53:53,780 That's not a good thing. 1189 00:53:53,780 --> 00:53:56,540 And really importantly is this is not transportable. 1190 00:53:56,540 --> 00:54:01,070 So you can't use heat from the sun except where you make it. 1191 00:54:01,070 --> 00:54:02,795 So that's where solar chemical comes in. 1192 00:54:02,795 --> 00:54:04,170 Oh, there's that-- we're number-- 1193 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,460 well, we're after Macedonia. 1194 00:54:10,460 --> 00:54:12,500 Anyway, Albania. 1195 00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,000 We don't use solar thermal this way, 1196 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,125 and I don't understand why. 1197 00:54:15,125 --> 00:54:17,270 It's a very inexpensive renewable resource. 1198 00:54:20,930 --> 00:54:24,130 Solar chemical-- so in solar chemical, what you do 1199 00:54:24,130 --> 00:54:26,710 is you take a molecule-- in this case, it's azobenzene. 1200 00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:31,300 And you shine a light on it, and it goes into a different state. 1201 00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:34,270 Now the important thing is that-- so that's the charging. 1202 00:54:34,270 --> 00:54:35,260 Charge it by the sun. 1203 00:54:35,260 --> 00:54:38,080 In this different state, it's storing energy, 1204 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,220 and that can be released. 1205 00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:42,200 It can be released in the form of heat. 1206 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,190 So you've got a way of closed-cycle 1207 00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:47,620 capturing and storing the sun's energy, 1208 00:54:47,620 --> 00:54:49,870 triggering this state to release that energy 1209 00:54:49,870 --> 00:54:50,920 in the form of heat. 1210 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,540 It's transportable. 1211 00:54:52,540 --> 00:54:56,600 It can be stored for as long as you want. 1212 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,440 It's renewable. 1213 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,320 It's cheap, and it's a closed cycle. 1214 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,960 That's the dream. 1215 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:06,100 Now this was very heavily studied 30, 40 years ago. 1216 00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:08,250 And the reason as a field it was abandoned 1217 00:55:08,250 --> 00:55:10,500 is because for all the cases that 1218 00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:14,930 were studied in the 1970s that do this closed loop, 1219 00:55:14,930 --> 00:55:16,670 they degrade. 1220 00:55:16,670 --> 00:55:18,110 So you get this cycle. 1221 00:55:18,110 --> 00:55:20,600 You charge up your fuel from the sun. 1222 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,580 You use it as heat somewhere. 1223 00:55:22,580 --> 00:55:23,360 You bring it back. 1224 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,140 You charge it again. 1225 00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:24,848 You use it again. 1226 00:55:24,848 --> 00:55:29,452 And after 10 cycles, half of your fuel is toluene. 1227 00:55:29,452 --> 00:55:30,160 That's a problem. 1228 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,246 Some thoughts on that? 1229 00:55:34,246 --> 00:55:36,068 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1230 00:55:36,068 --> 00:55:37,110 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Yeah. 1231 00:55:37,110 --> 00:55:37,943 That was a good one. 1232 00:55:37,943 --> 00:55:40,860 It was actually well timed. 1233 00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:45,615 And I like that kind of feedback. 1234 00:55:45,615 --> 00:55:47,610 The papers of the times were saying things 1235 00:55:47,610 --> 00:55:51,315 like an energy-storage plant, although technically feasible, 1236 00:55:51,315 --> 00:55:53,190 is not economically justified because there's 1237 00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:54,990 an upfront cost for this fuel. 1238 00:55:54,990 --> 00:55:58,140 And if it doesn't cycle, if it just degrades in 10 cycles, 1239 00:55:58,140 --> 00:55:59,580 you can't justify the cost. 1240 00:55:59,580 --> 00:56:01,970 So there's a lot of work on this, 1241 00:56:01,970 --> 00:56:03,690 and those are the degradation products. 1242 00:56:03,690 --> 00:56:06,480 I won't go into it, but I'll leave it in your notes. 1243 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,860 A lot of work was done. 1244 00:56:07,860 --> 00:56:10,470 Many papers were written, and a lot of experiments 1245 00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:14,160 were done to fix this problem, but no magic bullet was found. 1246 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,220 So they would substitute things into molecules. 1247 00:56:17,220 --> 00:56:19,260 They'd put metal atoms into the molecules. 1248 00:56:19,260 --> 00:56:22,980 They'd do what are called push-pull substitutions. 1249 00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:25,980 And no matter what they did to these things, 1250 00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:29,010 if they made them more cyclical, like 10 1251 00:56:29,010 --> 00:56:31,020 to the third cycles, which isn't bad, 1252 00:56:31,020 --> 00:56:34,620 then they'd be terrible in their energy density. 1253 00:56:34,620 --> 00:56:37,050 If they made them really high energy density, 1254 00:56:37,050 --> 00:56:40,220 then maybe they were really bad at absorbing sunlight. 1255 00:56:40,220 --> 00:56:44,390 So no matter what they did, they couldn't fix this problem. 1256 00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:48,020 And this is where it's just such a great time 1257 00:56:48,020 --> 00:56:50,420 to tackle it again. 1258 00:56:50,420 --> 00:56:53,690 The reason is that if you wanted to do 1259 00:56:53,690 --> 00:56:59,360 100,000 calculations of solids when this material was 1260 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,520 being studied heavily-- 1261 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,430 if you wanted to screen 100,000 materials, 1262 00:57:04,430 --> 00:57:08,030 it would take you 30 years in 1980 to do that, 1263 00:57:08,030 --> 00:57:10,530 and today it takes a few days. 1264 00:57:10,530 --> 00:57:13,310 Not on the nanoHUB necessarily-- 1265 00:57:13,310 --> 00:57:15,710 maybe they're back to 30 years. 1266 00:57:15,710 --> 00:57:17,063 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1267 00:57:17,063 --> 00:57:18,980 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Depends where you compute. 1268 00:57:18,980 --> 00:57:23,210 But we're just a whole generation 1269 00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:25,670 later in what we can tackle with computational quantum 1270 00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:26,480 mechanics. 1271 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,938 Now I'm going to end by telling you 1272 00:57:27,938 --> 00:57:30,170 why you need quantum mechanics. 1273 00:57:30,170 --> 00:57:32,570 So this is a really cool time to work on this problem, 1274 00:57:32,570 --> 00:57:34,400 and this wasn't available back then when 1275 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,030 it was such a big deal. 1276 00:57:36,030 --> 00:57:38,450 And then, of course, there's the sort 1277 00:57:38,450 --> 00:57:41,990 of advances we've made on the synthesis side, which 1278 00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:45,770 I won't talk about because this is a class on computation. 1279 00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:47,780 So what we've done-- 1280 00:57:47,780 --> 00:57:52,130 and this is research that we're doing-- 1281 00:57:52,130 --> 00:57:54,890 is we've shown that there are new ways-- we've 1282 00:57:54,890 --> 00:57:57,890 shown computationally that there are new ways 1283 00:57:57,890 --> 00:57:59,760 to tackle the problem. 1284 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,140 We've shown that you can take a molecule that 1285 00:58:04,140 --> 00:58:05,535 does this switch-- 1286 00:58:05,535 --> 00:58:07,155 there are many molecules that do this. 1287 00:58:07,155 --> 00:58:09,030 How many of you have heard of photo switches? 1288 00:58:12,330 --> 00:58:15,780 What have you heard of them being used for? 1289 00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:19,980 Have you heard of them being used for anything? 1290 00:58:19,980 --> 00:58:23,247 Well, they have been studied a lot but in what fields? 1291 00:58:23,247 --> 00:58:25,080 You have a molecule that you shine light on, 1292 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,300 and it goes like this. 1293 00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:28,800 And then you shine a different light 1294 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,955 on it or you just take the light off maybe, and it goes back-- 1295 00:58:31,955 --> 00:58:32,580 photo switches. 1296 00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:36,910 Where might that be useful? 1297 00:58:39,878 --> 00:58:42,003 AUDIENCE: It kind of reminds me of like LCD screens 1298 00:58:42,003 --> 00:58:42,940 but it's a bit different. 1299 00:58:42,940 --> 00:58:43,982 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Yeah. 1300 00:58:43,982 --> 00:58:45,820 Well, actually mechanical computing 1301 00:58:45,820 --> 00:58:49,600 is a big deal or nanomechanical memory, 1302 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,692 optomechanical functions. 1303 00:58:53,692 --> 00:58:55,150 There are actually many areas where 1304 00:58:55,150 --> 00:58:56,890 these sorts of switching molecules 1305 00:58:56,890 --> 00:59:01,330 like stilbene and azobenzene and stuff 1306 00:59:01,330 --> 00:59:04,240 that the name is so long I can't write it here-- 1307 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,160 spiropyran-- these are very heavily 1308 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,070 studied, these optically activated switching, big deal. 1309 00:59:10,070 --> 00:59:12,160 But they're all terrible solar thermal fuels. 1310 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,153 They're terrible. 1311 00:59:13,153 --> 00:59:15,070 They don't store much energy, and they go back 1312 00:59:15,070 --> 00:59:16,960 in a few minutes. 1313 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,860 So what we've realized is that you can actually turn them 1314 00:59:20,860 --> 00:59:23,710 into good ones, and the way you do that is you 1315 00:59:23,710 --> 00:59:25,030 put them on a template. 1316 00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:28,540 So you take a molecule that's one of these switches. 1317 00:59:28,540 --> 00:59:30,430 There are many switches. 1318 00:59:30,430 --> 00:59:32,010 You stick it on a template, and what 1319 00:59:32,010 --> 00:59:33,760 happens is when you stick it on a template 1320 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,180 you have new chemistry that you can do, 1321 00:59:37,180 --> 00:59:38,440 and that's really the key. 1322 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,070 Now we're going to come back to you in a few minutes is 1323 00:59:42,070 --> 00:59:44,320 this picture, so I wanted to just tell you what it is. 1324 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,470 This is what the molecule does. 1325 00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:48,000 This is a reaction pathway. 1326 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,790 This is the energy curve for the molecule. 1327 00:59:50,790 --> 00:59:52,740 So it's down here. 1328 00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:56,890 You shine light on it, and it goes up over this barrier, 1329 00:59:56,890 --> 00:59:59,680 and it drops you down here into a new state. 1330 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,270 In this case, it's azobenzene. 1331 01:00:01,270 --> 01:00:05,740 It's going from trans to cis. 1332 01:00:05,740 --> 01:00:08,260 How many of you have heard of trans/cis, trans and cis 1333 01:00:08,260 --> 01:00:09,070 isomers? 1334 01:00:09,070 --> 01:00:11,590 So you know about photo switches then. 1335 01:00:11,590 --> 01:00:17,280 Not all trans/cis states are photo accessible, but many are. 1336 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,330 That's all this is doing. 1337 01:00:18,330 --> 01:00:20,130 And then when you want to release the heat, 1338 01:00:20,130 --> 01:00:21,180 you trigger it. 1339 01:00:21,180 --> 01:00:24,210 And it goes over this barrier, like say with a catalyst, 1340 01:00:24,210 --> 01:00:25,840 and it releases this much energy. 1341 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,890 So that's your storage energy. 1342 01:00:27,890 --> 01:00:30,240 That's how much energy that molecule stored. 1343 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,840 And this back-reaction barrier's related to the lifetime 1344 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,550 of the stored state. 1345 01:00:36,550 --> 01:00:39,040 We're going to come back to this. 1346 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,320 So these are-- what we did is some work that 1347 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,340 showed that you can put these onto nanotubes 1348 01:00:43,340 --> 01:00:45,048 and you can make them into good switches, 1349 01:00:45,048 --> 01:00:47,470 and I'm not going to go into the details. 1350 01:00:47,470 --> 01:00:52,400 But basically you see this is the advantage 1351 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,940 of computational quantum mechanics 1352 01:00:55,940 --> 01:01:00,450 today is that we can do chemistry 1353 01:01:00,450 --> 01:01:03,990 in the computer on these switches and screen 1354 01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:07,930 hundreds of ideas in a week. 1355 01:01:07,930 --> 01:01:11,760 And we can calculate the things like how much energy they store 1356 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,040 or how stable they are in a matter 1357 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,400 of an hour on a computer. 1358 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,190 So this is the perfect time to try 1359 01:01:20,190 --> 01:01:22,710 to tackle old problems like this that weren't solved 1360 01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:25,950 a generation ago but that you can 1361 01:01:25,950 --> 01:01:28,080 play with them with many different directions 1362 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,973 computationally. 1363 01:01:29,973 --> 01:01:31,140 And this is just an example. 1364 01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:33,000 And don't worry about the details, 1365 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,740 but this was that photo switch. 1366 01:01:34,740 --> 01:01:37,590 This is how much energy is stored on its own, this line up 1367 01:01:37,590 --> 01:01:38,610 here. 1368 01:01:38,610 --> 01:01:41,850 And now we can tweak it by putting it on this template 1369 01:01:41,850 --> 01:01:43,260 and doing different chemistries. 1370 01:01:43,260 --> 01:01:47,550 We can make it store three times as much energy. 1371 01:01:47,550 --> 01:01:50,250 So we can triple the storage energy of these molecules 1372 01:01:50,250 --> 01:01:53,700 just by playing with the chemistry when you put them 1373 01:01:53,700 --> 01:01:54,690 on a rigid template. 1374 01:01:54,690 --> 01:01:56,130 That's the idea. 1375 01:01:56,130 --> 01:02:00,000 At the same time, we can tune the barrier back, 1376 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,950 and we can have cases like this one 1377 01:02:01,950 --> 01:02:03,570 where you triple the storage density 1378 01:02:03,570 --> 01:02:06,120 and you increase the barrier to going back. 1379 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,040 And that's really important because you 1380 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,998 want to be able to tune those things separately 1381 01:02:09,998 --> 01:02:13,045 because the back barrier is related to how long it stays 1382 01:02:13,045 --> 01:02:13,920 in the charged state. 1383 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,730 So that's the key, and so we've developed materials 1384 01:02:19,730 --> 01:02:24,045 like this that are very competitive with the best 1385 01:02:24,045 --> 01:02:26,420 lithium-ion batteries in terms of their energy densities. 1386 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:31,955 Any questions about these? 1387 01:02:31,955 --> 01:02:33,580 I'm kind of going through this quickly, 1388 01:02:33,580 --> 01:02:37,362 but I don't want to get bogged down by too 1389 01:02:37,362 --> 01:02:38,195 much of the details. 1390 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,530 So there are many template materials 1391 01:02:45,530 --> 01:02:47,210 that you can put these on. 1392 01:02:47,210 --> 01:02:49,490 You have to use a template or you 1393 01:02:49,490 --> 01:02:51,640 can't get this new chemistry. 1394 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,920 And there are many switches that let you 1395 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,245 go back and forth like this. 1396 01:02:55,245 --> 01:02:56,620 And what we've shown is that this 1397 01:02:56,620 --> 01:03:00,910 is sort of a large phase space. 1398 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:07,860 And so they're sort of a new chemistry platform 1399 01:03:07,860 --> 01:03:09,960 out here for making these kinds of fuels. 1400 01:03:12,890 --> 01:03:18,510 When I went to the Sloan class, Energy Ventures, 1401 01:03:18,510 --> 01:03:20,640 and talked about this, my thought was-- 1402 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,595 this is last fall-- 1403 01:03:22,595 --> 01:03:23,970 I have this really cool material. 1404 01:03:23,970 --> 01:03:26,772 It's going to save the world. 1405 01:03:26,772 --> 01:03:28,230 We're going to replace coal plants. 1406 01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:30,210 We're going to make electricity this way. 1407 01:03:30,210 --> 01:03:32,520 Everything's going to be heated this way. 1408 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,460 And they did a study on commercialization, 1409 01:03:35,460 --> 01:03:37,710 and they came back and they said, no, you're 1410 01:03:37,710 --> 01:03:39,370 not going to do any of that. 1411 01:03:39,370 --> 01:03:42,420 What you're going to do is you're going to deice windows. 1412 01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:45,750 And at first I was actually not happy 1413 01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:48,460 because I wanted to solve the world's energy problems. 1414 01:03:48,460 --> 01:03:50,460 They looked at all these different applications. 1415 01:03:50,460 --> 01:03:51,960 There's lots of ways to use heat. 1416 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,400 If you can store the sun's energy 1417 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,470 and release it as heat on demand, that's a big deal-- 1418 01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:59,720 and do it over and over again. 1419 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,040 There are many places you can use. 1420 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,040 But they said, no, this is going to be the best. 1421 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,768 So actually we started looking at that. 1422 01:04:05,768 --> 01:04:07,310 Actually Sam started looking at that, 1423 01:04:07,310 --> 01:04:09,390 and he built a whole test apparatus. 1424 01:04:09,390 --> 01:04:13,670 And Sam, with our solar fields when they're made, 1425 01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:17,960 he'll be able to deice a window for you in about five seconds, 1426 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,180 and that's pretty cool. 1427 01:04:20,180 --> 01:04:23,120 So you can embed this stuff inside of glass 1428 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,310 and have it passively absorb the sun's energy during the day. 1429 01:04:26,310 --> 01:04:28,280 In the morning, trigger it, and it gives you 1430 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,580 300 Celsius inside the glass. 1431 01:04:31,580 --> 01:04:34,355 You don't need to melt much ice to get it to fall off. 1432 01:04:34,355 --> 01:04:35,720 So a lot of people-- 1433 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,640 and they talked with MBTA and others 1434 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,230 who would pay a whole lot of money 1435 01:04:39,230 --> 01:04:41,605 to get something like that because there's a lot of money 1436 01:04:41,605 --> 01:04:42,510 wasted on deicing. 1437 01:04:42,510 --> 01:04:44,385 It actually turns out to be very interesting. 1438 01:04:44,385 --> 01:04:47,150 We also built a solar cooker in collaboration 1439 01:04:47,150 --> 01:04:50,792 with the Slocum group, and that basically 1440 01:04:50,792 --> 01:04:52,250 lets you cook with the sun's energy 1441 01:04:52,250 --> 01:04:54,920 when the sun's not out because, again, you have this ability 1442 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,050 to take the sun's energy and release it 1443 01:04:57,050 --> 01:05:01,260 as heat when you want it and then recharge it the next day. 1444 01:05:01,260 --> 01:05:03,445 So we're really excited about this. 1445 01:05:03,445 --> 01:05:04,820 Oh, and there's our solar cooker. 1446 01:05:04,820 --> 01:05:06,320 I love this. 1447 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,980 I'm going to take the last 15 minutes to talk about what 1448 01:05:11,980 --> 01:05:15,250 we can do with what we can do. 1449 01:05:15,250 --> 01:05:18,250 But this is the last thing I'll tell you about the solar fuels. 1450 01:05:18,250 --> 01:05:20,560 I love this picture. 1451 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,020 So these kinds of things are not good. 1452 01:05:23,020 --> 01:05:25,300 This is a big deal. 1453 01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:29,320 This causes more deaths in the third world than malaria 1454 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,440 and AIDS combined, wood-fired stoves. 1455 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,490 Women primarily and sometimes children spend 20 hours a week 1456 01:05:36,490 --> 01:05:38,020 searching for wood. 1457 01:05:38,020 --> 01:05:40,240 20 hours a week of their time goes 1458 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,690 to getting wood for burning. 1459 01:05:43,690 --> 01:05:46,380 This is the alternative if you want to use the sun to cooking. 1460 01:05:46,380 --> 01:05:49,890 And I love these because this is a restaurant in India, 1461 01:05:49,890 --> 01:05:58,480 and you can see these come with specialized goggles and gloves. 1462 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,900 And you can see why because he's inside the oven. 1463 01:06:02,900 --> 01:06:05,450 He's getting burned when he's cooking 1464 01:06:05,450 --> 01:06:07,040 because you can focus on a point, 1465 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,550 but you're not going to be perfect. 1466 01:06:08,550 --> 01:06:10,190 So there's a lot of sun hitting him. 1467 01:06:10,190 --> 01:06:12,110 It's not a very comfortable way to cook. 1468 01:06:12,110 --> 01:06:14,870 But also you can only cook when the sun's out. 1469 01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:17,690 So solar cookers, I think, could play a really big role if you 1470 01:06:17,690 --> 01:06:20,750 can get them low cost-- these are over $600-- 1471 01:06:20,750 --> 01:06:23,270 and if you can get them to be able to cook 1472 01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:25,300 when it's more convenient. 1473 01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:28,237 OK, so I won't go into those details. 1474 01:06:28,237 --> 01:06:30,070 This is the kind of thing we do in my group, 1475 01:06:30,070 --> 01:06:31,750 and I get so excited about it. 1476 01:06:31,750 --> 01:06:34,090 We design things in a computer. 1477 01:06:34,090 --> 01:06:36,940 We make them, and we build prototypes, 1478 01:06:36,940 --> 01:06:39,520 and it's sort of a full loop here 1479 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,010 to try to impact interesting energy problems. 1480 01:06:43,010 --> 01:06:45,830 Now this leaves me on the last part, 1481 01:06:45,830 --> 01:06:48,970 which is what I want to talk about in the last 10 1482 01:06:48,970 --> 01:06:50,240 minutes of class. 1483 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,670 Which is, OK, that's a really cool energy problem. 1484 01:06:54,670 --> 01:06:56,907 You have to agree with that. 1485 01:06:56,907 --> 01:06:58,490 OK, you don't have to agree with that, 1486 01:06:58,490 --> 01:07:00,990 but I think it's really cool energy problem. 1487 01:07:00,990 --> 01:07:06,050 Where does computational quantum mechanics fit into this? 1488 01:07:06,050 --> 01:07:14,850 OK, so this is what it does. 1489 01:07:14,850 --> 01:07:17,190 The fuel goes from here to here. 1490 01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:18,690 This is the reaction coordinate. 1491 01:07:18,690 --> 01:07:20,940 It goes from a low-energy state to a high-energy state 1492 01:07:20,940 --> 01:07:22,232 when you shine the light on it. 1493 01:07:26,380 --> 01:07:29,960 Could I calculate-- now this is how much energy it's stored, 1494 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,327 which is related to the density of the fuel, the energy 1495 01:07:32,327 --> 01:07:33,160 density of the fuel. 1496 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,050 Remember, that's something we had to kind of hike up 1497 01:07:35,050 --> 01:07:36,310 by a factor of three or four. 1498 01:07:36,310 --> 01:07:39,200 It's not really that good. 1499 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,330 Could I have done that with classical potentials? 1500 01:07:41,330 --> 01:07:43,610 Can I calculate this with classical potentials? 1501 01:07:43,610 --> 01:07:44,240 What is this? 1502 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:45,260 How do I calculate this? 1503 01:07:56,950 --> 01:08:04,570 Here's my solar fuel, and this is the trans state, 1504 01:08:04,570 --> 01:08:07,770 and this is the cis state. 1505 01:08:07,770 --> 01:08:09,120 What is this difference? 1506 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:13,870 How would I calculate this energy difference? 1507 01:08:13,870 --> 01:08:17,542 How would you do that calculation in a computer? 1508 01:08:17,542 --> 01:08:18,420 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1509 01:08:18,420 --> 01:08:22,890 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: No, no, no, this is calculationally. 1510 01:08:22,890 --> 01:08:23,640 Is that a word? 1511 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,380 Yeah. 1512 01:08:25,380 --> 01:08:26,130 Go ahead. 1513 01:08:26,130 --> 01:08:29,050 AUDIENCE: So they're both sort of local minima 1514 01:08:29,050 --> 01:08:29,800 of the potentials. 1515 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:30,842 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Yeah. 1516 01:08:30,842 --> 01:08:32,970 AUDIENCE: So you could theoretically 1517 01:08:32,970 --> 01:08:36,920 run some DFT simulation on your trans configuration 1518 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,050 and run a DFT simulation on your cis configuration 1519 01:08:40,050 --> 01:08:42,300 and then get out the sort of ground-state energies 1520 01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:44,490 for the two and compare them. 1521 01:08:44,490 --> 01:08:50,210 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: E cis minus E trans. 1522 01:08:50,210 --> 01:08:51,470 You bet. 1523 01:08:51,470 --> 01:08:52,189 That's it. 1524 01:08:52,189 --> 01:08:53,569 That's all this is-- 1525 01:08:53,569 --> 01:08:55,170 equals delta H. 1526 01:08:55,170 --> 01:08:57,410 Now tell me why you said DFT. 1527 01:08:57,410 --> 01:09:02,479 Can't I use reacts or a Lennard-Jones potential 1528 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:03,380 to calculate that? 1529 01:09:06,060 --> 01:09:08,667 Why not? 1530 01:09:08,667 --> 01:09:11,250 AUDIENCE: The trans and cis may have different types of bonds, 1531 01:09:11,250 --> 01:09:12,600 so [INAUDIBLE] electrons. 1532 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:13,975 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: What if I had 1533 01:09:13,975 --> 01:09:15,690 a super-duper good potential? 1534 01:09:15,690 --> 01:09:17,732 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] for electrons [INAUDIBLE].. 1535 01:09:17,732 --> 01:09:19,357 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: But why do I need-- 1536 01:09:19,357 --> 01:09:19,859 but hang on. 1537 01:09:19,859 --> 01:09:21,942 I mean, that would be true with all the first part 1538 01:09:21,942 --> 01:09:22,859 of your class, right? 1539 01:09:22,859 --> 01:09:24,776 Everything you did in the first part of class, 1540 01:09:24,776 --> 01:09:27,760 like straining wires and stuff, captured energy of bonds. 1541 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:28,560 Yeah? 1542 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,319 AUDIENCE: You need to be given the potential to use in order 1543 01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:34,229 to do a classical simulation. 1544 01:09:34,229 --> 01:09:36,029 So doing the quantum simulation, you 1545 01:09:36,029 --> 01:09:39,880 just need to give the configuration of atoms, 1546 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:40,950 and then it-- 1547 01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:41,609 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Which is nice. 1548 01:09:41,609 --> 01:09:42,370 AUDIENCE: --find the energy for you. 1549 01:09:42,370 --> 01:09:44,412 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Which is certainly very nice, 1550 01:09:44,412 --> 01:09:46,649 but let's say I tell you that I'm giving you a really 1551 01:09:46,649 --> 01:09:48,420 super-duper, really, really, really, 1552 01:09:48,420 --> 01:09:51,050 honestly really good potential. 1553 01:09:51,050 --> 01:09:55,280 And that's what it's called in the literature. 1554 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,070 I put the word honest in it. 1555 01:09:58,070 --> 01:10:00,776 Could I calculate this with classical potentials? 1556 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,880 It's a difference of energies between two molecules. 1557 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,247 Can I calculate that with a classical force field? 1558 01:10:16,450 --> 01:10:19,480 I'm seeing some of this and I'm seeing some of this. 1559 01:10:19,480 --> 01:10:23,620 Well, actually yes. 1560 01:10:23,620 --> 01:10:25,540 You could calculate the energy difference 1561 01:10:25,540 --> 01:10:28,090 between two molecules using classical force fields. 1562 01:10:28,090 --> 01:10:30,160 What you have identified is the challenge 1563 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,400 of doing that, which is that it's only going 1564 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,200 to be as good as the potential. 1565 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,560 Can the potential accurately represent these two? 1566 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,030 Well, you compare with experiment. 1567 01:10:40,030 --> 01:10:42,610 You compare with higher-level theories and you'll know. 1568 01:10:42,610 --> 01:10:44,350 But what if it can? 1569 01:10:44,350 --> 01:10:45,160 What if it can't? 1570 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,440 Well, then this is perfectly reasonable 1571 01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:51,850 to do with classical force fields. 1572 01:10:51,850 --> 01:10:54,170 I don't need electrons to calculate this. 1573 01:10:54,170 --> 01:10:58,975 I just need the right energies, which is what classical force 1574 01:10:58,975 --> 01:11:02,280 fields are trying to capture. 1575 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,890 Now, there's a key here though. 1576 01:11:04,890 --> 01:11:07,282 By the way, you could even get this using a good-- 1577 01:11:07,282 --> 01:11:09,240 if the classical force fields were good enough, 1578 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,330 you could get the back-reaction barrier, the activation energy. 1579 01:11:15,290 --> 01:11:18,610 I want to make sure that we understand context here. 1580 01:11:18,610 --> 01:11:21,380 When you do a simulation, when you 1581 01:11:21,380 --> 01:11:26,540 do your computational materials research, 1582 01:11:26,540 --> 01:11:30,110 it's not a one size fits all kind of thing, 1583 01:11:30,110 --> 01:11:34,670 and it's not even a one problem, one method kind of thing. 1584 01:11:34,670 --> 01:11:38,090 You can have one problem with different properties 1585 01:11:38,090 --> 01:11:40,780 that require different methods. 1586 01:11:40,780 --> 01:11:43,510 And which is the right method to use? 1587 01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:45,700 Well, very often the answer to that 1588 01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:49,660 is whichever one is accurate enough for the problem at hand 1589 01:11:49,660 --> 01:11:53,140 and fastest, and so that's where you 1590 01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:55,700 have to know-- you have to test and know where you sit 1591 01:11:55,700 --> 01:11:59,060 in accuracy phase space with a given method, 1592 01:11:59,060 --> 01:12:00,840 and then you go ahead with it. 1593 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,840 And if you can find a classical potential that 1594 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,450 seems to represent this class of materials well 1595 01:12:05,450 --> 01:12:08,730 and you can validate that it's getting this, by all means 1596 01:12:08,730 --> 01:12:13,600 use that because it's going to be a whole lot faster than DFT. 1597 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:18,130 However-- I should do that more because it kind of felt good. 1598 01:12:18,130 --> 01:12:22,720 It actually kind of loosened my shoulder, made me look silly. 1599 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,170 There are things here I can't do as classical potentials, not 1600 01:12:26,170 --> 01:12:30,390 even if I really, really close my eyes and dreamt it. 1601 01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:31,688 They wouldn't happen. 1602 01:12:31,688 --> 01:12:32,480 What would that be? 1603 01:12:36,935 --> 01:12:39,748 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1604 01:12:39,748 --> 01:12:40,790 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Yeah. 1605 01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:42,440 So you're saying there's a hint here. 1606 01:12:46,465 --> 01:12:49,110 This is what I'm shining on the molecule. 1607 01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:51,710 Who's seen this before? 1608 01:12:51,710 --> 01:12:54,120 Yeah, you're feeling it. 1609 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,850 This is the sun. 1610 01:12:55,850 --> 01:13:00,380 This is how much energy comes to us from the sun. 1611 01:13:00,380 --> 01:13:02,620 And you can see that it's dependent on the wavelength 1612 01:13:02,620 --> 01:13:03,940 of the light. 1613 01:13:03,940 --> 01:13:05,140 That's pretty cool, right? 1614 01:13:05,140 --> 01:13:07,540 And you know what's really cool are these big, huge gaps. 1615 01:13:07,540 --> 01:13:09,915 See, this is if you go outside of the earth's atmosphere, 1616 01:13:09,915 --> 01:13:12,170 you get this yellow line. 1617 01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:15,260 But on the planet, we get this red curve. 1618 01:13:15,260 --> 01:13:17,540 We get all those parts blocked out. 1619 01:13:17,540 --> 01:13:19,430 You just don't get that frequency of light 1620 01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:20,030 on the earth. 1621 01:13:20,030 --> 01:13:22,130 And the reason is because you have these molecules 1622 01:13:22,130 --> 01:13:25,100 in the atmosphere that are blocking that part of the sun's 1623 01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:26,210 spectrum. 1624 01:13:26,210 --> 01:13:28,800 Isn't that pretty cool? 1625 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,210 But this red is what we get on the planet. 1626 01:13:32,210 --> 01:13:37,280 And the question is how do these molecules 1627 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,720 do in capturing that energy? 1628 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,670 This is how we're going to charge them. 1629 01:13:42,670 --> 01:13:45,770 This is how we're going to charge them up. 1630 01:13:45,770 --> 01:13:49,620 Now that is related to something else that's not here. 1631 01:13:49,620 --> 01:13:50,940 What might that be related to? 1632 01:13:55,450 --> 01:13:57,710 The band gap, exactly. 1633 01:13:57,710 --> 01:13:59,020 Exactly. 1634 01:13:59,020 --> 01:14:00,920 That is related. 1635 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:05,980 So this all comes back to where those electrons are. 1636 01:14:05,980 --> 01:14:09,420 So remember, we filled these electrons up. 1637 01:14:09,420 --> 01:14:10,950 I'm just making them-- 1638 01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:12,780 just for simplicity, I'm not labeling 1639 01:14:12,780 --> 01:14:14,790 them s, p because I'm not talking 1640 01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:16,680 about a particular thing here. 1641 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,780 And then we filled them all up. 1642 01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:21,450 There were 10 electrons, and we filled the levels 1643 01:14:21,450 --> 01:14:23,470 with those electrons, and that was it. 1644 01:14:23,470 --> 01:14:25,710 But there's another level up here, 1645 01:14:25,710 --> 01:14:27,420 and there's many more levels up there 1646 01:14:27,420 --> 01:14:30,060 that don't have electrons. 1647 01:14:30,060 --> 01:14:34,140 And this distance here in energy between the highest occupied 1648 01:14:34,140 --> 01:14:37,500 and lowest unoccupied level, the HOMO/LUMOS, 1649 01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:39,055 that's called the band gap. 1650 01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:45,180 This is called the Highest Occupied Molecular Orbital, 1651 01:14:45,180 --> 01:14:49,148 and this is the Lowest Unoccupied Molecular Orbital. 1652 01:14:49,148 --> 01:14:50,940 And the difference between them is the gap, 1653 01:14:50,940 --> 01:14:54,470 and that is so important for optical properties 1654 01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:57,170 and electronic properties-- transport of electrons, 1655 01:14:57,170 --> 01:14:59,130 absorption of sun. 1656 01:14:59,130 --> 01:15:02,070 In this case, we care about the absorption of the sun much more 1657 01:15:02,070 --> 01:15:03,900 than transport of electrons. 1658 01:15:06,500 --> 01:15:08,120 Now the reason that's so important 1659 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:12,290 is you see it goes back to the hydrogen atom. 1660 01:15:15,500 --> 01:15:17,000 Somebody tell me a weirdness thing 1661 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,740 about looking out into space. 1662 01:15:18,740 --> 01:15:25,230 What do you see when you look at the colors of hydrogen? 1663 01:15:25,230 --> 01:15:27,010 They're discrete. 1664 01:15:27,010 --> 01:15:28,786 Why? 1665 01:15:28,786 --> 01:15:30,215 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1666 01:15:30,215 --> 01:15:31,590 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Yeah because, 1667 01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:35,010 remember, here's your electron. 1668 01:15:35,010 --> 01:15:39,750 It can only be in these quantized levels. 1669 01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:44,860 It can only be in 1s or 2s, and it cannot be in between. 1670 01:15:44,860 --> 01:15:47,720 Remember that? 1671 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,600 How does that relate to the absorption of sun 1672 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:51,740 by a solar fuel? 1673 01:15:51,740 --> 01:15:53,740 Well, it's the same idea. 1674 01:15:53,740 --> 01:15:56,960 You see, when you absorb sunlight-- 1675 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,070 see this H new? 1676 01:15:58,070 --> 01:16:00,800 Sunlight came into this trans state, 1677 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,950 and it made it go up onto another energy surface. 1678 01:16:03,950 --> 01:16:06,170 That got it to twist. 1679 01:16:06,170 --> 01:16:10,190 Now when it absorbed the sunlight, what really happened 1680 01:16:10,190 --> 01:16:13,610 is that the sun's energy came into the molecule 1681 01:16:13,610 --> 01:16:17,940 and it kicked an electron out of some happy place. 1682 01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:22,910 It's just hanging out with its buddies, and a photon comes in, 1683 01:16:22,910 --> 01:16:28,070 and that photon kicks it up here, and that's what does it. 1684 01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:31,340 That's what makes the molecule change its shape, 1685 01:16:31,340 --> 01:16:35,900 that electron getting kicked up into one of these other states. 1686 01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:37,460 Now the key here-- 1687 01:16:37,460 --> 01:16:39,620 and this is what's related to the hydrogen atom-- 1688 01:16:39,620 --> 01:16:43,520 is that you see you can't-- if you just shine-- 1689 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,030 so let me try to draw this a little bit more clearly. 1690 01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:51,620 These are occupied levels, and these are unoccupied levels, 1691 01:16:51,620 --> 01:16:54,450 and this is the gap. 1692 01:16:54,450 --> 01:16:58,990 So these would be occupied, unoccupied. 1693 01:16:58,990 --> 01:17:00,550 You cannot shine light. 1694 01:17:00,550 --> 01:17:03,010 If I only have enough energy from the photon 1695 01:17:03,010 --> 01:17:05,660 to take an electron from here to here, 1696 01:17:05,660 --> 01:17:07,480 well, you're in no man's land. 1697 01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:10,240 You're just like that electron in the hydrogen atom 1698 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,480 trying to go in between a 1s and a 2s orbital. 1699 01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:16,310 You can't do it. 1700 01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:18,050 There is no state here. 1701 01:17:18,050 --> 01:17:22,000 There's no wave function there for the electron to be it. 1702 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,890 And so there is a gap. 1703 01:17:23,890 --> 01:17:29,260 That is the minimum energy it takes, right? 1704 01:17:29,260 --> 01:17:31,300 So how is that now related to this? 1705 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,530 Gap is related to absorption how? 1706 01:17:48,980 --> 01:17:50,660 So this is actually wavelength. 1707 01:17:50,660 --> 01:17:54,300 So the energy gap goes as 1 over this, right? 1708 01:17:57,153 --> 01:17:59,320 AUDIENCE: So for a molecule only has a certain range 1709 01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:00,460 over which it can absorb light? 1710 01:18:00,460 --> 01:18:01,627 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: Exactly. 1711 01:18:01,627 --> 01:18:06,660 Actually, for now we're just saying it has a minimum energy 1712 01:18:06,660 --> 01:18:09,060 below which it cannot absorb any light. 1713 01:18:09,060 --> 01:18:12,180 No photon below this energy can do anything 1714 01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:14,580 in terms of exciting these electrons up. 1715 01:18:14,580 --> 01:18:16,290 So the photons have to be above that, 1716 01:18:16,290 --> 01:18:18,780 which means they have to be-- if they have 1717 01:18:18,780 --> 01:18:21,540 to be above a certain energy, then they have to be 1718 01:18:21,540 --> 01:18:23,270 below a certain wavelength. 1719 01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:27,660 So there's some-- does everybody see 1720 01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:32,068 there's some lambda max where they're not 1721 01:18:32,068 --> 01:18:33,110 going to absorb any more? 1722 01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:38,480 So beyond some point here, they can't take any of that sun. 1723 01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:39,440 That's it. 1724 01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:40,820 Does everybody see that? 1725 01:18:40,820 --> 01:18:43,190 They cannot absorb that sun. 1726 01:18:43,190 --> 01:18:46,820 Now would it be good-- if lambda max were up here, 1727 01:18:46,820 --> 01:18:49,240 would that be OK? 1728 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,400 Seems like it, but there's a real problem 1729 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:55,130 with that, which I'll come back to probably next Tuesday. 1730 01:18:55,130 --> 01:18:57,220 But what would happen if lambda max were here? 1731 01:18:59,527 --> 01:19:01,110 AUDIENCE: You're missing out on a lot. 1732 01:19:01,110 --> 01:19:02,860 JEFFREY C GROSSMAN: You're missing so much 1733 01:19:02,860 --> 01:19:04,080 of the sun's energy. 1734 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,930 You just can't-- because of quantum mechanics, 1735 01:19:06,930 --> 01:19:11,040 that darn quantum mechanics and that electronic thing that you 1736 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,140 cannot get from classical potentials, 1737 01:19:13,140 --> 01:19:18,370 that electronic gap, you cannot absorb light beyond the gap. 1738 01:19:18,370 --> 01:19:21,180 Which means if your gap is here in energy, 1739 01:19:21,180 --> 01:19:25,760 all of this part of the sunlight is completely wasted. 1740 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,180 So I'm going to spend a little time on this on Tuesday 1741 01:19:29,180 --> 01:19:34,010 because there's some really cool questions about these photo 1742 01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:36,800 switches that we're going to use quantum mechanics to model 1743 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:37,623 in the homework. 1744 01:19:37,623 --> 01:19:40,040 And so I want to spend a little more time on this Tuesday, 1745 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,810 and then I'll talk a little bit about hydrogen storage. 1746 01:19:42,810 --> 01:19:47,150 So we're going to pick up with this picture on Tuesday.