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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Hello.

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Can people hear me in the back?

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Yeah, thumbs up.

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OK.

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So today, we're going
to be continuing

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our discussion of probability.

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In the last lecture, we saw
how to compute probabilities--

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[BANG]

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--using the-- oh, dear--

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using the tree method.

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And in this lecture,
we are going

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to see how some of the
tools that we learned

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in the last unit for
counting, for reasoning

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about the sizes of sets
and things like that,

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can also carry over naturally
into the realm of probability.

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And we'll also
learn how to express

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mathematically statements
like, if you recall,

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I was saying things last
time like if the prize is

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behind door A, what is the
probability that Marilyn selects

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door B or something like that?

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So we're going to
see more formally

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what these statements
are trying to express

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and how to reason about them.

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So recall how we defined the
probability of an event A.

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So an event is just
a set of outcomes.

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Our probability function,
Pr, is a function

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from the set of outcomes, the
sample space, to the interval 0

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to 1.

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And we can extend this
naturally to events

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by saying that the
probability of an event

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is just the sum of the
probabilities of all

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of the outcomes in that event.

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So an immediate consequence
of this definition,

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or several immediate
consequences I suppose,

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are the following.

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So first, we have the sum rule.

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So if we have two events, A
and B, and they're disjoint--

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so A and B are disjoint events--

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this tells us that the
probability of the union of A

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and B is, what?

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What do we think that is?

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Any ideas?

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: Sum of
the probabilities.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, the
sum of the probabilities.

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So probability of A
plus the probability

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of B. So very similar to
what we saw with sets.

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If you have two disjoint
sets, the size of their union

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is the same as the sum
of the individual sizes.

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The same thing happens
with probability.

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We also have the
complement rule.

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So if we have some
event A, what do we

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think the probability
of the complement of A

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is, so the probability
that A doesn't occur?

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So I should probably--

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yeah.

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What's the probability of not A?

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Anybody?

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: 1 minus
the probability of A.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, 1 minus
the probability of A because A

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and not A are disjoint.

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And one of them must happen.

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So with certainty, one
of A or not A happens.

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So the probability
of their union is 1.

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So this kind of just
follows from the sum rule.

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What else do we have?

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The difference rule.

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So in this case, suppose we
have, again, two events, A

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and B. And this time, we'd
like to look at the difference

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A set minus B. What
do we think that might

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be in terms of the
probabilities of A and B?

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: The probability
of A minus the intersection

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of A and B.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Exactly.

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So the probability of
A minus the probability

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of the intersection.

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Why is that?

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Well, A is just the
disjoint union of A minus B,

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and A intersects B.

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We also have an
analog of principle

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of inclusion/exclusion.

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So the probability of A union
B for more general A and B.

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So they're not necessarily
disjoint anymore.

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Just like we had
with sets, this is

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going to be the probability
of A plus the probability of B

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minus the probability
of the intersection.

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And we have a
couple of new rules

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that don't really have analogs
in the case of counting sets.

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So first, we have
the union bound.

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Oops.

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So probability of A
union B is less than

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or equal to probability of
A plus probability of B.

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Or I suppose I shouldn't say it
doesn't really have an analog,

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but we didn't really
look at the analog.

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And why might that be the case?

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: I have a question.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Oh, yeah.

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AUDIENCE: What's the difference
between the sum rule and pi?

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN:
So the question is,

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what's the difference
between the sum rule and pi?

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So in the sum rule, we assume
that A and B are disjoint.

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So if A and B are disjoint, then
their intersection is empty.

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So the intersection
has zero probability.

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So pi is just a way
to generalize the sum

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rule to the case
where they're not

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necessarily disjoint anymore.

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They may have a
nontrivial intersection.

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Good question.

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Any other questions?

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No?

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OK.

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So can anybody give a reason why
the union bound might be true?

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: Because the
probability of the intersection

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is non-negative.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN:
Yeah, so the answer

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was the probability of the
intersection is non-negative.

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So if we just take pi, so
this holds with equality.

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And if we just get rid of
this negative term here,

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we can only increase
the probability

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because all probabilities
have to be between 0 and 1.

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We also have monotonicity.

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Again, I don't think we saw
an analog of this with sets.

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But if A is a subset of B,
what do you think that tells us

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about the probabilities?

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Any ideas?

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I'm seeing some hand motions.

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So as you might expect from
the name, if is A subset of B,

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then its probability
should be smaller

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than the probability of B. So do
these make sense to everybody?

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So just as we saw with
sets, both the sum rule,

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the union bound, and the
principle of inclusion/exclusion

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can all generalize to
arbitrary numbers of events

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or even countably many.

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I suppose principle of
inclusion/exclusion,

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you should probably only
think about finite cases.

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But the other two,
they fairly, naturally,

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generalize to countable
sets of events.

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So do these rules make
sense to everybody?

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You'll probably be
using them quite a lot.

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So make sure you're
familiar with them.

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Any questions?

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So in that case, let us
move on to the main topic

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of today's lecture--

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conditional probability.

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So if you recall on Tuesday when
we were talking about the Monty

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Hall problem, when we were
drawing our tree diagram,

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we were making
statements such as,

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if the car is behind door 1,
what's the probability that we

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pick door 2?

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Or I guess it was purple, gold,
and green-- or purple, gold,

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silver?

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Silver, yeah.

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So how do we express
this mathematically?

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So that's where conditional
probability comes in.

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We're going to make use of
the following definition.

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So if we have two
events, A and B,

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we define the
conditional probability

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of A given B, which we
denote as the following.

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So we say A conditional B. We
denote that with a vertical bar.

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We define this to
be the probability

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of A intersect B divided
by the probability of B.

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So intuitively,
you can think of it

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a little bit as we're trying to
scale our probability space so

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that B becomes our
entire sample space.

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So we kind of want to divide
out this probability of B

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so that we still get a
probability space, all

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of the probabilities sum to 1.

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Does that make
sense to everybody?

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And then the analog
of A, we're only

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looking at everything
that's already within B.

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So we're looking at the
intersection of A and B.

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Now, if we rewrite this,
we can get a product rule.

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So if we want to know the
probability of A intersect B,

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we can just move
this probability of B

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over to the other side.

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And we end up with probability
of A intersect B equals

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probability of A given B
times the probability of B.

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And as you might expect, you can
extend this to multiple events.

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Or I guess this is
already multiple events.

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You can extend it to
more than two events.

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So you can also have, e.g., the
probability of A intersect B

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intersect C equals the
probability of A given B and C

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times the probability of B--

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or maybe I should write
this out more explicitly--

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B intersect C.

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And then if we apply our
binary product rule again,

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we can expand out this term
as the probability of A given

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B and C, probability of B
given C, probability of C.

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So that's basically what we were
doing on Tuesday written out

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more formally.

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So probability of C
corresponds to what

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is the first edge we chose,
the first edge going away

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from the root.

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And then conditioned on
reaching a particular vertex,

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like conditioned on
Monty hiding the prize

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in the gold box, what's the
probability that Marilyn chooses

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the silver one?

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So that's the
conditional probability

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of choosing the silver box,
conditioned on the prize being

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in the gold box.

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And then, as you continue
along the path to a leaf,

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all of the edge probabilities
that you're looking at

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are secret-- they
were secretly just

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basic conditional probabilities.

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Does that make
sense to everybody?

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Any questions?

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So another extension of this
that you may find useful

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is the following--

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A intersect B given C is going
to be probability of A given B

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intersect C probability of
B given C. So can anybody

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see why that might be the case?

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Well, first maybe we should look
at, what exactly is it saying?

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So if you squint a little bit
and get rid of the C's, it

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kind of looks a little
bit like the product rule.

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A intersect B is probability
of A given B times

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probability of B. It
looks kind of like that.

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But we've added a bunch
of C's everywhere.

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So basically what
we're saying here

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is this is the product rule
in the probability space

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where we're assuming C. It's
the product rule conditioned

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on C. Does that make
sense to everybody?

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And we can obtain it
from the previous line

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just by dividing out by
the probability of C.

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Do people have questions?

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Are we happy to move
on to some examples?

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Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: Sorry.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Sorry.

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AUDIENCE: Is it sets
on the left board?

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Or is it still events
[INAUDIBLE] on the board?

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Oh, OK.

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So the question was, are we
talking about sets or events?

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Yes.

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So remember that events are
defined to be sets of outcomes.

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So we're talking about events.

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But events are sets, and
we can treat them as such.

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So that's why we're
using lots of notation

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here that you would typically
associate with sets, like union

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intersection, et cetera.

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Any other questions?

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Oh, yeah?

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AUDIENCE: So if you have
A and B and C [INAUDIBLE]

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or is it more like a
single node of [INAUDIBLE]?

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: So these
are not nodes in the tree.

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Oh, sorry.

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Question was, if we have an
event that's like A union

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B union C or something,
are these general sets?

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Or are they nodes in the tree?

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That is a good observation.

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Some of the nodes in the tree
naturally correspond to events.

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Like if we draw out
our tree diagram,

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this node here fairly
naturally corresponds

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to this set of events--

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or sorry, this set of outcomes,
those two leaves in its subtree.

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But not every event necessarily
corresponds to an internal node

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of the tree like that.

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For instance, you could
have these two outcomes.

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If you consider the set
of those two outcomes,

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that's still a valid event.

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But it doesn't really
naturally correspond

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to a tree node in the same way.

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Does that make sense?

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AUDIENCE: I think you
misunderstood my question.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Oh,
that is quite possible.

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AUDIENCE: I was
meaning the probability

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of A given B or A
given C, [INAUDIBLE]

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is that still a similar set?

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Or how that would be different?

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But I think it would
just be helpful to see

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what happened on the tree.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: OK.

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So asking about the conditional
probabilities as they

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appear in the tree.

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TA: Brynmor?

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yes?

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TA: What is A given B?

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Is that an event?

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Is it a set?

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How can we describe it,
not as a probability but--

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Oh, I see.

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OK.

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So I guess the way that I
like to think about A given B,

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it is an event in a
different probability space.

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So you can think of--

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if you limit the scope--

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rather than talking about
your entire sample space S,

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if you limit the
scope to just C,

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so you scale all of
the probabilities down

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by the probability of C, you end
up with a different probability

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space.

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So now the probability of--
or sorry, the event B given C

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is an event in that
probability space.

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Does that make sense?

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AUDIENCE: Yeah.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: OK.

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Yeah, sorry.

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[CHUCKLES] Thank you
for the clarification.

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So why don't we move
on to some examples

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then if this makes
reasonable amount of sense.

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Hopefully it'll make more
sense after examples.

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So suppose Ash and
Gary are having

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a bunch of Pokemon battles
against each other.

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And they're doing a tournament.

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The first to win two
battles wins the--

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or I guess the series.

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The first to win two
battles wins the series.

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And the probabilities of victory
are not entirely uniform.

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So for the first match,
maybe it's a toss-up.

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Ash wins with
probability one half.

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Garry wins with
probability one half.

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But after the first
battle, there's

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an advantage to whoever
won the last battle.

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Their morale is
high or something.

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They do better.

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So they now have probability of
2/3 of winning the next battle.

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And there aren't any draws.

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They're bitter rivals.

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They will fight to the death.

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So let's define a
couple of events.

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We'll say that A is the
event Ash wins the series.

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And B is the event Ash
wins the first battle.

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So now we can ask for the
probability of A given B.

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So does the problem
setup make sense?

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Yeah?

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OK.

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So how could we compute this?

00:22:00.580 --> 00:22:05.630 align:middle line:90%


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Any ideas?

00:22:06.472 --> 00:22:07.555 align:middle line:90%
Where do we want to start?

00:22:07.555 --> 00:22:18.117 align:middle line:90%


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Should we just throw
some numbers out there?

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Oh, yeah?

00:22:20.450 --> 00:22:21.828 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Draw a tree diagram.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah,
let's draw a tree diagram.

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Nice one.

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OK, so drawing a
tree diagram, what's

00:22:30.220 --> 00:22:33.590 align:middle line:84%
the first random
thing that happens?

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What's the first
source of randomness?

00:22:35.636 --> 00:22:39.460 align:middle line:90%


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Yeah?

00:22:41.650 --> 00:22:43.450 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:22:43.450 --> 00:22:44.900 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah.

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So Ash could win or
lose the first battle.

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So we can actually label
these as B and not B.

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What's the next random
thing that could happen?

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00:23:06.790 --> 00:23:08.400 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:10.660 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN:
Yeah, that's right.

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So actually, maybe it's better
to call these just W and L

00:23:16.840 --> 00:23:18.710 align:middle line:84%
so we can use the
same thing everywhere.

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So win, lose, win, lose.

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Regardless of whether he wins
or loses the first battle,

00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.330 align:middle line:84%
he can still either win
or lose the second one.

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Now, what's the third
layer going to be?

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AUDIENCE: If he's
won two, it's over.

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If he's won one
and he's lost one,

00:23:48.310 --> 00:23:50.580 align:middle line:84%
you go again and split it
into two separate outcomes.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Exactly.

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AUDIENCE: Lost two, that
means that he's lost two.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, exactly.

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So if he's won two or lost
two, those are just leaves now.

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We don't do anything more.

00:24:00.520 --> 00:24:02.470 align:middle line:90%
The series is over.

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But if he's won one and
lost one in either order,

00:24:05.910 --> 00:24:09.090 align:middle line:90%
we can now split again.

00:24:09.090 --> 00:24:11.820 align:middle line:84%
So that's a little bit
long, but, oh, well.

00:24:11.820 --> 00:24:17.430 align:middle line:90%
W, L, W, L.

00:24:17.430 --> 00:24:19.650 align:middle line:90%
So now what are our outcomes?

00:24:19.650 --> 00:24:23.630 align:middle line:84%
Again, let's look at
the paths from root

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to leaves and just label
with a string of edge labels.

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So this is going to be W comma
W; W, L, W; W, L, L; L, W, W; L,

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W, L; and L, L.

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Now, what are the probabilities
on each of the edges?

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So in the first layer,
what's the probability

00:25:01.790 --> 00:25:04.430 align:middle line:90%
that Ash wins the first game?

00:25:04.430 --> 00:25:05.150 align:middle line:90%
First match.

00:25:05.150 --> 00:25:05.650 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

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AUDIENCE: One half.

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BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: One half.

00:25:07.710 --> 00:25:10.530 align:middle line:84%
So each of these is
probability one half.

00:25:10.530 --> 00:25:14.280 align:middle line:90%


00:25:14.280 --> 00:25:17.500 align:middle line:84%
Now, the second layer,
we said, are now

00:25:17.500 --> 00:25:19.160 align:middle line:90%
conditional probabilities.

00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.790 align:middle line:84%
So conditioned on
winning the first match,

00:25:22.790 --> 00:25:26.192 align:middle line:84%
what's the probability of
winning the second match?

00:25:26.192 --> 00:25:27.900 align:middle line:84%
What's the probability
on this edge here?

00:25:27.900 --> 00:25:33.220 align:middle line:90%


00:25:33.220 --> 00:25:34.520 align:middle line:90%
Do we remember?

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AUDIENCE: 2/3.

00:25:35.332 --> 00:25:36.945 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: 2/3, yeah.

00:25:36.945 --> 00:25:39.580 align:middle line:90%


00:25:39.580 --> 00:25:42.290 align:middle line:84%
And so the other branch is going
to be the complement of that,

00:25:42.290 --> 00:25:44.560 align:middle line:90%
so one third.

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And then for the
bottom branch, it's

00:25:47.830 --> 00:25:49.940 align:middle line:84%
going to be exactly
the opposite.

00:25:49.940 --> 00:25:51.940 align:middle line:84%
It's going to be one
third chance of winning,

00:25:51.940 --> 00:25:53.220 align:middle line:90%
2/3 chance of losing.

00:25:53.220 --> 00:25:58.885 align:middle line:90%


00:25:58.885 --> 00:26:02.740 align:middle line:84%
Now, conditioned on
winning the first match

00:26:02.740 --> 00:26:05.140 align:middle line:84%
and losing the
second match, what's

00:26:05.140 --> 00:26:06.690 align:middle line:84%
the probability of
winning the third?

00:26:06.690 --> 00:26:14.140 align:middle line:90%


00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:14.650 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:26:14.650 --> 00:26:15.700 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: One third.

00:26:15.700 --> 00:26:19.020 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN:
One third, yeah.

00:26:19.020 --> 00:26:21.990 align:middle line:90%
So one third win, 2/3 loss.

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And this will be exactly
the opposite, so 2/3 win,

00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:29.910 align:middle line:90%
one third loss.

00:26:29.910 --> 00:26:32.010 align:middle line:84%
So now we can
assign probabilities

00:26:32.010 --> 00:26:35.310 align:middle line:90%
to all of the outcomes.

00:26:35.310 --> 00:26:37.145 align:middle line:84%
What's the probability
of winning twice?

00:26:37.145 --> 00:26:41.460 align:middle line:90%


00:26:41.460 --> 00:26:43.510 align:middle line:84%
How do we compute
these probabilities?

00:26:43.510 --> 00:26:48.360 align:middle line:90%


00:26:48.360 --> 00:26:49.440 align:middle line:90%
Anyone?

00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:49.940 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:26:49.940 --> 00:26:54.110 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Why is the probability
of winning [INAUDIBLE]?

00:26:54.110 --> 00:26:57.000 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Oh,
so this was just what

00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:59.320 align:middle line:90%
we assumed in the problem.

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If it's not the first game, you
win with probability 2/3 if you

00:27:04.020 --> 00:27:06.450 align:middle line:84%
won the last game or with
probability one third if you

00:27:06.450 --> 00:27:07.415 align:middle line:90%
lost the last game.

00:27:07.415 --> 00:27:11.880 align:middle line:90%


00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.610 align:middle line:90%
So the first branch is 50-50.

00:27:14.610 --> 00:27:17.210 align:middle line:84%
But the subsequent ones are
going to be 2/3, one third,

00:27:17.210 --> 00:27:19.502 align:middle line:84%
in one direction or the other,
depending on the outcome

00:27:19.502 --> 00:27:20.455 align:middle line:90%
of the previous game--

00:27:20.455 --> 00:27:21.830 align:middle line:84%
maybe I shouldn't
use "outcome"--

00:27:21.830 --> 00:27:23.705 align:middle line:84%
depending on the result
of the previous game.

00:27:23.705 --> 00:27:28.160 align:middle line:90%


00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:31.043 align:middle line:84%
OK, so how do we compute
probabilities of outcomes?

00:27:31.043 --> 00:27:31.960 align:middle line:90%
Does anybody remember?

00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:34.845 align:middle line:90%


00:27:34.845 --> 00:27:35.345 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:27:35.345 --> 00:27:42.320 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Do you just multiply
to that each outcome--

00:27:42.320 --> 00:27:44.780 align:middle line:84%
or, yeah, you multiply the
probabilities along the tree

00:27:44.780 --> 00:27:45.560 align:middle line:90%
to that outcome.

00:27:45.560 --> 00:27:47.727 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, so
you multiply probabilities

00:27:47.727 --> 00:27:49.930 align:middle line:90%
along paths to outcomes.

00:27:49.930 --> 00:27:53.970 align:middle line:84%
So for this top outcome,
we've got one half times 2/3.

00:27:53.970 --> 00:27:56.570 align:middle line:84%
So this is
probability one third.

00:27:56.570 --> 00:27:59.450 align:middle line:84%
Win, loss, win has
probability one third by one

00:27:59.450 --> 00:28:00.990 align:middle line:90%
half by one third.

00:28:00.990 --> 00:28:04.490 align:middle line:90%
So that's 1/18.

00:28:04.490 --> 00:28:07.520 align:middle line:84%
Win, loss, loss says probability
one half times one third times

00:28:07.520 --> 00:28:08.250 align:middle line:90%
2/3.

00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:11.360 align:middle line:90%
So that's going to be one ninth.

00:28:11.360 --> 00:28:14.620 align:middle line:90%
And then these all reverse--

00:28:14.620 --> 00:28:19.360 align:middle line:90%
1/18 and one third.

00:28:19.360 --> 00:28:21.460 align:middle line:90%
Have I done that correctly?

00:28:21.460 --> 00:28:23.890 align:middle line:90%
Yes, that looks fine.

00:28:23.890 --> 00:28:27.640 align:middle line:84%
If I make an error,
please shout at me.

00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:32.330 align:middle line:84%
OK, so we've got
our tree diagram.

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We've got our sample space.

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We've got our
probability function.

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What's the next thing we need?

00:28:37.905 --> 00:28:42.280 align:middle line:90%


00:28:42.280 --> 00:28:42.930 align:middle line:90%
Do we remember?

00:28:42.930 --> 00:29:01.630 align:middle line:90%


00:29:01.630 --> 00:29:14.000 align:middle line:84%
So we've got, step 1, tree;
step 2, the probabilities;

00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:16.360 align:middle line:90%
3 was the events of interest.

00:29:16.360 --> 00:29:21.774 align:middle line:90%


00:29:21.774 --> 00:29:23.785 align:middle line:84%
So what are the events
we care about here?

00:29:23.785 --> 00:29:32.270 align:middle line:90%


00:29:32.270 --> 00:29:33.790 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:29:33.790 --> 00:29:35.750 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Winning the
tournament [INAUDIBLE].

00:29:35.750 --> 00:29:36.115 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Pardon?

00:29:36.115 --> 00:29:38.870 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Winning the tournament
and winning the first game.

00:29:38.870 --> 00:29:40.662 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: OK,
winning the tournament

00:29:40.662 --> 00:29:43.400 align:middle line:90%
and winning the first game.

00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:49.910 align:middle line:84%
So A was-- yep, A was
winning the tournament.

00:29:49.910 --> 00:29:53.330 align:middle line:90%
B was winning the first game.

00:29:53.330 --> 00:29:54.055 align:middle line:90%
Is that all?

00:29:54.055 --> 00:29:56.413 align:middle line:90%


00:29:56.413 --> 00:29:58.330 align:middle line:84%
Are there any other
events that we care about?

00:29:58.330 --> 00:30:00.920 align:middle line:90%


00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:01.610 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:30:01.610 --> 00:30:03.440 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: A intersect B.

00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:04.760 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yes, exactly.

00:30:04.760 --> 00:30:12.340 align:middle line:84%
So we also want A intersect B.
We also care about the event

00:30:12.340 --> 00:30:14.330 align:middle line:84%
where you win the first
battle and the series.

00:30:14.330 --> 00:30:15.000 align:middle line:90%
Why is that?

00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:20.470 align:middle line:90%


00:30:20.470 --> 00:30:21.780 align:middle line:90%
Would you like to explain?

00:30:21.780 --> 00:30:23.980 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:25.640 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, exactly.

00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:28.370 align:middle line:84%
So ultimately, we want this
conditional probability,

00:30:28.370 --> 00:30:31.990 align:middle line:84%
the probability of A
given B. And if we go back

00:30:31.990 --> 00:30:36.220 align:middle line:84%
to our definition, the
probability of A given B

00:30:36.220 --> 00:30:39.130 align:middle line:84%
is the probability of
A intersect B divided

00:30:39.130 --> 00:30:41.620 align:middle line:90%
by the probability of B.

00:30:41.620 --> 00:30:44.170 align:middle line:84%
So as it turns out,
we don't really

00:30:44.170 --> 00:30:49.120 align:middle line:84%
need A. The two probabilities
we really need are these two,

00:30:49.120 --> 00:30:50.475 align:middle line:90%
are the two events I suppose.

00:30:50.475 --> 00:30:53.400 align:middle line:90%


00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:58.390 align:middle line:90%
So finally-- 4, answer.

00:30:58.390 --> 00:31:00.610 align:middle line:90%
What is our answer?

00:31:00.610 --> 00:31:05.540 align:middle line:84%
Well, probability of A
given B, as we just said,

00:31:05.540 --> 00:31:09.840 align:middle line:84%
is the probability of
A intersect B divided

00:31:09.840 --> 00:31:17.140 align:middle line:84%
by probability of B. What are
each of these probabilities?

00:31:17.140 --> 00:31:19.710 align:middle line:90%


00:31:19.710 --> 00:31:22.290 align:middle line:84%
Well, which events-- or
sorry, which outcomes

00:31:22.290 --> 00:31:23.780 align:middle line:90%
are in the event A intersect B?

00:31:23.780 --> 00:31:32.520 align:middle line:90%


00:31:32.520 --> 00:31:37.200 align:middle line:84%
It's W, W in A
intersect B. Yeah?

00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.840 align:middle line:90%
Win, loss, win-- also yes.

00:31:40.840 --> 00:31:43.920 align:middle line:90%
Win, loss, loss-- nope.

00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:45.940 align:middle line:84%
And all of these, he
lost the first game.

00:31:45.940 --> 00:31:47.380 align:middle line:90%
So these are also not in it.

00:31:47.380 --> 00:31:52.120 align:middle line:84%
So we care about
these two outcomes.

00:31:52.120 --> 00:32:00.570 align:middle line:84%
So this is going to be, by the
sum rule, one third plus 1/18.

00:32:00.570 --> 00:32:03.310 align:middle line:84%
So that doesn't
look much like an 8.

00:32:03.310 --> 00:32:03.810 align:middle line:90%
Oh, well.

00:32:03.810 --> 00:32:06.320 align:middle line:90%


00:32:06.320 --> 00:32:08.350 align:middle line:90%
Now what's the probability of B?

00:32:08.350 --> 00:32:16.020 align:middle line:90%


00:32:16.020 --> 00:32:16.520 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:32:16.520 --> 00:32:17.312 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: One half.

00:32:17.312 --> 00:32:20.640 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, it's just
one half, either by symmetry,

00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.860 align:middle line:84%
or you can actually look
at what those outcomes are.

00:32:22.860 --> 00:32:25.855 align:middle line:90%
It's these top three.

00:32:25.855 --> 00:32:34.515 align:middle line:90%


00:32:34.515 --> 00:32:38.800 align:middle line:84%
And if we do this arithmetic,
we've got 7/18 divided by one

00:32:38.800 --> 00:32:40.163 align:middle line:90%
half, which is 7/9.

00:32:40.163 --> 00:32:46.160 align:middle line:90%


00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:49.580 align:middle line:84%
So the probability that Ash wins
the entire series given that he

00:32:49.580 --> 00:32:51.813 align:middle line:84%
won the first battle
is going to be 7/9.

00:32:51.813 --> 00:32:54.668 align:middle line:90%


00:32:54.668 --> 00:32:58.250 align:middle line:84%
So far this is pretty
straightforward, fairly routine

00:32:58.250 --> 00:33:00.006 align:middle line:90%
mathematical-- well, arithmetic.

00:33:00.006 --> 00:33:03.260 align:middle line:90%


00:33:03.260 --> 00:33:08.245 align:middle line:84%
But what if, instead, we asked
for the probability of B given

00:33:08.245 --> 00:33:08.745 align:middle line:90%
A?

00:33:08.745 --> 00:33:31.720 align:middle line:90%


00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:33.176 align:middle line:90%
What is that probability?

00:33:33.176 --> 00:33:44.860 align:middle line:90%


00:33:44.860 --> 00:33:46.840 align:middle line:84%
Well, numerically,
we can compute it

00:33:46.840 --> 00:33:48.000 align:middle line:90%
in exactly the same way.

00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.500 align:middle line:84%
It's going to be the probability
of the intersection divided

00:33:50.500 --> 00:33:51.958 align:middle line:84%
by, this time, the
probability of A

00:33:51.958 --> 00:33:53.890 align:middle line:84%
rather than the
probability of B.

00:33:53.890 --> 00:33:56.230 align:middle line:84%
But still, by symmetry,
that probability

00:33:56.230 --> 00:33:58.160 align:middle line:90%
is going to be one half.

00:33:58.160 --> 00:33:59.593 align:middle line:90%
So this is also going to be 7/9.

00:33:59.593 --> 00:34:04.440 align:middle line:90%


00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.013 align:middle line:90%
But what exactly does it mean?

00:34:06.013 --> 00:34:13.260 align:middle line:90%


00:34:13.260 --> 00:34:13.830 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:34:13.830 --> 00:34:16.199 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: The probability that--

00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:17.620 align:middle line:90%
he already won the series.

00:34:17.620 --> 00:34:19.305 align:middle line:84%
What was the probability
that he won the first battle?

00:34:19.305 --> 00:34:21.120 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah,
so the answer was,

00:34:21.120 --> 00:34:23.620 align:middle line:84%
given that he already won the
series, what's the probability

00:34:23.620 --> 00:34:26.790 align:middle line:90%
that he won the first battle?

00:34:26.790 --> 00:34:32.380 align:middle line:84%
Now, this might sound a little
bit weird to some of you.

00:34:32.380 --> 00:34:35.139 align:middle line:84%
Like, if we know that
he's won the series,

00:34:35.139 --> 00:34:36.489 align:middle line:90%
everything's already happened.

00:34:36.489 --> 00:34:39.989 align:middle line:84%
He either won the
battle or he didn't.

00:34:39.989 --> 00:34:44.040 align:middle line:84%
But when we're modeling
probability questions,

00:34:44.040 --> 00:34:48.389 align:middle line:84%
we don't really care about any
temporal relations or anything

00:34:48.389 --> 00:34:50.539 align:middle line:90%
like that, or even causal ones.

00:34:50.539 --> 00:34:56.560 align:middle line:90%


00:34:56.560 --> 00:34:59.260 align:middle line:90%
It's all just numerical.

00:34:59.260 --> 00:35:02.930 align:middle line:84%
You can think of it a
bit like an inference.

00:35:02.930 --> 00:35:05.612 align:middle line:90%
You've got some uncertainty.

00:35:05.612 --> 00:35:08.600 align:middle line:84%
Maybe you're told that
he won the battle.

00:35:08.600 --> 00:35:10.590 align:middle line:84%
Or, sorry, you're told
that he won the series.

00:35:10.590 --> 00:35:14.330 align:middle line:84%
You want to update your belief
that maybe he won the first

00:35:14.330 --> 00:35:16.280 align:middle line:90%
battle, maybe he didn't.

00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.070 align:middle line:84%
And maybe you're not
entirely confident in it.

00:35:19.070 --> 00:35:23.408 align:middle line:84%
But you'd like to estimate
how confident you should be.

00:35:23.408 --> 00:35:25.075 align:middle line:84%
That might be one way
to think about it.

00:35:25.075 --> 00:35:27.890 align:middle line:90%


00:35:27.890 --> 00:35:31.250 align:middle line:84%
So in a sense, it's like looking
at a backwards probability,

00:35:31.250 --> 00:35:34.100 align:middle line:84%
that something in the past has
happened given that we observed

00:35:34.100 --> 00:35:37.040 align:middle line:90%
something in the future.

00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:43.190 align:middle line:84%
So in general, they won't
always be the same like this.

00:35:43.190 --> 00:35:45.500 align:middle line:84%
You can relate the
probability of B

00:35:45.500 --> 00:35:47.490 align:middle line:84%
given A to the
probability of A given B.

00:35:47.490 --> 00:35:50.360 align:middle line:90%
They won't always be equal.

00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:51.715 align:middle line:90%
Let's see how to relate them.

00:35:51.715 --> 00:35:55.550 align:middle line:90%


00:35:55.550 --> 00:35:59.963 align:middle line:84%
It just so happens that in
this case, these two things--

00:35:59.963 --> 00:36:03.220 align:middle line:90%


00:36:03.220 --> 00:36:07.030 align:middle line:84%
these two things had
the same probability.

00:36:07.030 --> 00:36:10.510 align:middle line:84%
So that's really the core
reason why they were equal.

00:36:10.510 --> 00:36:13.580 align:middle line:84%
But more generally,
we have the following.

00:36:13.580 --> 00:36:19.780 align:middle line:90%


00:36:19.780 --> 00:36:20.905 align:middle line:90%
This is called Bayes' rule.

00:36:20.905 --> 00:36:26.140 align:middle line:90%


00:36:26.140 --> 00:36:32.180 align:middle line:84%
You can think of it as it's just
the product rule in disguise.

00:36:32.180 --> 00:36:40.750 align:middle line:84%
So the probability of B given
A equals the probability--

00:36:40.750 --> 00:36:44.920 align:middle line:84%
oops, why don't I split
this into two lines--

00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:52.180 align:middle line:84%
probability of A given
B, probability of B

00:36:52.180 --> 00:36:57.140 align:middle line:90%
divided by probability of A.

00:36:57.140 --> 00:36:59.980 align:middle line:84%
So in the example we just
saw, these two are the same.

00:36:59.980 --> 00:37:02.760 align:middle line:90%
So they just cancel.

00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.990 align:middle line:84%
But more generally, you want
to multiply by the quotient.

00:37:06.990 --> 00:37:10.928 align:middle line:84%
And you can think of this as
the product rule in disguise.

00:37:10.928 --> 00:37:12.720 align:middle line:84%
Like if you just move
this probability of A

00:37:12.720 --> 00:37:16.957 align:middle line:84%
over to this side,
now you're just

00:37:16.957 --> 00:37:19.290 align:middle line:84%
computing the probability of
the intersection of A and B

00:37:19.290 --> 00:37:20.530 align:middle line:90%
on both sides.

00:37:20.530 --> 00:37:23.280 align:middle line:90%
Does that make sense?

00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.720 align:middle line:90%
But it can often be useful--

00:37:26.720 --> 00:37:28.720 align:middle line:84%
even though it's not
really saying anything new,

00:37:28.720 --> 00:37:31.140 align:middle line:84%
it can often be useful to
think about it in this way.

00:37:31.140 --> 00:37:35.610 align:middle line:84%
If you want to reverse the
direction of an inference,

00:37:35.610 --> 00:37:38.190 align:middle line:84%
you want to multiply by
the quotient of the two

00:37:38.190 --> 00:37:40.190 align:middle line:84%
probabilities of the
events that you care about.

00:37:40.190 --> 00:37:45.672 align:middle line:90%


00:37:45.672 --> 00:37:51.180 align:middle line:84%
And one particularly
useful consequence of this

00:37:51.180 --> 00:37:52.530 align:middle line:90%
is the following.

00:37:52.530 --> 00:37:56.970 align:middle line:84%
So suppose we have
two events, B and C.

00:37:56.970 --> 00:38:00.470 align:middle line:84%
And we're trying to condition
them both on the same event.

00:38:00.470 --> 00:38:04.010 align:middle line:90%


00:38:04.010 --> 00:38:10.890 align:middle line:84%
So what is the
probability of C given A--

00:38:10.890 --> 00:38:16.775 align:middle line:84%
or B given A divided by the
probability of C given A?

00:38:16.775 --> 00:38:21.780 align:middle line:90%


00:38:21.780 --> 00:38:23.550 align:middle line:84%
And in particular,
often we would

00:38:23.550 --> 00:38:26.410 align:middle line:84%
take C to be the complement
of B or something like that.

00:38:26.410 --> 00:38:29.910 align:middle line:84%
And that will then help us to
compute this probability of B

00:38:29.910 --> 00:38:35.100 align:middle line:84%
given A. So as it
turns out, this

00:38:35.100 --> 00:38:36.840 align:middle line:84%
is going to be the
probability of A given

00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:43.590 align:middle line:84%
B times the probability
of B divided

00:38:43.590 --> 00:38:49.470 align:middle line:90%
by probability of A given C--

00:38:49.470 --> 00:39:04.630 align:middle line:90%
oops-- probability of C.

00:39:04.630 --> 00:39:06.470 align:middle line:84%
So does that make
sense to everybody?

00:39:06.470 --> 00:39:14.200 align:middle line:90%


00:39:14.200 --> 00:39:18.610 align:middle line:84%
And the reason that this in
particular might be useful--

00:39:18.610 --> 00:39:20.770 align:middle line:84%
in order to compute
the probability of B,

00:39:20.770 --> 00:39:27.070 align:middle line:84%
if we use B complement to
C, this right-hand side

00:39:27.070 --> 00:39:29.320 align:middle line:84%
here does not depend
on the probability

00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.300 align:middle line:84%
of A. We don't have to
compute the probability of A.

00:39:32.300 --> 00:39:34.972 align:middle line:84%
So maybe if A is some
really nasty event

00:39:34.972 --> 00:39:37.180 align:middle line:84%
and we don't actually want
to compute its probability

00:39:37.180 --> 00:39:39.200 align:middle line:84%
but we can still
condition on it,

00:39:39.200 --> 00:39:41.950 align:middle line:84%
we might still be able to use
this formula more easily than we

00:39:41.950 --> 00:39:44.020 align:middle line:90%
could use this one.

00:39:44.020 --> 00:39:46.100 align:middle line:84%
Does that make
sense to everybody?

00:39:46.100 --> 00:39:51.312 align:middle line:90%


00:39:51.312 --> 00:39:57.830 align:middle line:84%
So let's take a look at a couple
of applications of Bayes' rule.

00:39:57.830 --> 00:40:02.760 align:middle line:90%


00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:07.710 align:middle line:84%
Or actually, first--
mm, first, maybe I

00:40:07.710 --> 00:40:11.820 align:middle line:84%
should give you a brief
lesson in statistics.

00:40:11.820 --> 00:40:24.480 align:middle line:84%
So terminology-- the
probability of A given B,

00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:41.540 align:middle line:84%
this would often be called
the likelihood of A given B.

00:40:41.540 --> 00:40:45.030 align:middle line:84%
So if any of you have ever seen
maximum likelihood estimations

00:40:45.030 --> 00:40:47.580 align:middle line:84%
or anything like that,
that's where this comes from.

00:40:47.580 --> 00:40:49.940 align:middle line:84%
Or this is where that
comes from, sorry.

00:40:49.940 --> 00:40:52.540 align:middle line:90%


00:40:52.540 --> 00:41:13.540 align:middle line:84%
Probability of B we call
the prior probability of B.

00:41:13.540 --> 00:41:20.230 align:middle line:84%
And the left-hand side, the
probability of B given A,

00:41:20.230 --> 00:41:38.050 align:middle line:84%
is the posterior of B.
Actually, we don't usually

00:41:38.050 --> 00:41:39.485 align:middle line:90%
specify it with that.

00:41:39.485 --> 00:41:39.985 align:middle line:90%
Oops.

00:41:39.985 --> 00:41:44.200 align:middle line:90%


00:41:44.200 --> 00:41:45.790 align:middle line:84%
So this is how
you would normally

00:41:45.790 --> 00:41:49.260 align:middle line:84%
talk about it in statistics
or something like that--

00:41:49.260 --> 00:41:52.630 align:middle line:84%
the likelihood of A given
B, the prior probability,

00:41:52.630 --> 00:41:54.870 align:middle line:84%
and the posterior
probability-- because basically

00:41:54.870 --> 00:41:58.510 align:middle line:84%
what you're doing is you're
starting with some prior.

00:41:58.510 --> 00:42:00.360 align:middle line:84%
If you don't know
anything, this is

00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:03.870 align:middle line:84%
what you think the
probability of B should be.

00:42:03.870 --> 00:42:08.890 align:middle line:84%
And now you make
some observation A.

00:42:08.890 --> 00:42:10.650 align:middle line:84%
And so now you
update, and you get

00:42:10.650 --> 00:42:15.940 align:middle line:84%
a posterior probability of B
conditioned on that observation.

00:42:15.940 --> 00:42:16.850 align:middle line:90%
Does that make sense?

00:42:16.850 --> 00:42:22.920 align:middle line:90%


00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:29.075 align:middle line:84%
OK, so why don't we take a look
at a couple of examples then?

00:42:29.075 --> 00:42:37.560 align:middle line:90%


00:42:37.560 --> 00:42:39.313 align:middle line:84%
Hopefully everybody
is OK with those.

00:42:39.313 --> 00:42:43.500 align:middle line:90%


00:42:43.500 --> 00:42:46.665 align:middle line:84%
So first example, suppose
I've got two coins.

00:42:46.665 --> 00:42:49.280 align:middle line:90%


00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:50.820 align:middle line:90%
I've got one fair coin.

00:42:50.820 --> 00:42:52.850 align:middle line:84%
I toss this coin, and
it'll come up heads

00:42:52.850 --> 00:42:56.920 align:middle line:84%
with 50% probability,
tails with 50% probability.

00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:58.620 align:middle line:90%
And I've also got a trick coin.

00:42:58.620 --> 00:43:01.070 align:middle line:90%
It's double heads.

00:43:01.070 --> 00:43:02.350 align:middle line:90%
I flip it, I always get heads.

00:43:02.350 --> 00:43:06.236 align:middle line:90%


00:43:06.236 --> 00:43:09.650 align:middle line:84%
Suppose I pick one of these
coins uniformly at random,

00:43:09.650 --> 00:43:13.495 align:middle line:84%
I flip that coin, and
it comes up heads.

00:43:13.495 --> 00:43:16.895 align:middle line:90%


00:43:16.895 --> 00:43:19.280 align:middle line:84%
What is the probability
that I picked the fair coin

00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:21.475 align:middle line:84%
to begin with, as opposed
to the biased one?

00:43:21.475 --> 00:43:27.080 align:middle line:90%


00:43:27.080 --> 00:43:28.095 align:middle line:90%
Any ideas?

00:43:28.095 --> 00:43:30.595 align:middle line:84%
Does anybody have any guesses
as to what the probability is?

00:43:30.595 --> 00:43:36.470 align:middle line:90%


00:43:36.470 --> 00:43:40.100 align:middle line:84%
Who wants to just
draw the tree diagram?

00:43:40.100 --> 00:43:40.800 align:middle line:90%
A few people.

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:42.650 align:middle line:84%
People aren't as
enthusiastic about it

00:43:42.650 --> 00:43:43.890 align:middle line:90%
as they were on Tuesday.

00:43:43.890 --> 00:43:46.170 align:middle line:90%
That's slightly unfortunate.

00:43:46.170 --> 00:43:48.100 align:middle line:90%
Let's do it anyway.

00:43:48.100 --> 00:43:54.180 align:middle line:84%
Now, let's make precise the
events that we care about.

00:43:54.180 --> 00:44:01.545 align:middle line:84%
So let's let H be the event
that we flipped heads.

00:44:01.545 --> 00:44:06.280 align:middle line:90%


00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:13.185 align:middle line:84%
And F is the event
picked the fair coin.

00:44:13.185 --> 00:44:23.506 align:middle line:90%


00:44:23.506 --> 00:44:25.390 align:middle line:84%
So what is the
probability that we're

00:44:25.390 --> 00:44:32.170 align:middle line:84%
trying to compute in terms
of these two quantities?

00:44:32.170 --> 00:44:33.280 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.590 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Probability
of F given H.

00:44:35.590 --> 00:44:37.950 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Probability
of F given H, yes.

00:44:37.950 --> 00:44:44.370 align:middle line:90%


00:44:44.370 --> 00:44:49.740 align:middle line:84%
OK, so how might
we compute this?

00:44:49.740 --> 00:44:51.450 align:middle line:84%
People didn't seem
too enthusiastic

00:44:51.450 --> 00:44:52.510 align:middle line:90%
about the tree diagram.

00:44:52.510 --> 00:44:53.885 align:middle line:84%
So what else could
we do instead?

00:44:53.885 --> 00:45:02.760 align:middle line:90%


00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:04.535 align:middle line:84%
Does anybody see a way
to use Bayes' rule?

00:45:04.535 --> 00:45:08.760 align:middle line:90%


00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:09.780 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:45:09.780 --> 00:45:11.080 align:middle line:90%
Or just a stretch?

00:45:11.080 --> 00:45:11.580 align:middle line:90%
Sorry.

00:45:11.580 --> 00:45:13.044 align:middle line:90%
[CHUCKLES]

00:45:13.044 --> 00:45:16.935 align:middle line:90%


00:45:16.935 --> 00:45:17.435 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:45:17.435 --> 00:45:21.824 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: The probability
of H [INAUDIBLE].

00:45:21.824 --> 00:45:24.510 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, the
probability of H given F

00:45:24.510 --> 00:45:25.450 align:middle line:90%
is easy.

00:45:25.450 --> 00:45:27.270 align:middle line:90%
That's 50%.

00:45:27.270 --> 00:45:30.850 align:middle line:84%
So that's an easy
known quantity.

00:45:30.850 --> 00:45:35.000 align:middle line:84%
So if we use Bayes' rule, that
might make it easier to compute.

00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.550 align:middle line:90%


00:45:37.550 --> 00:45:43.730 align:middle line:84%
So actually, why don't we use
the slightly more complicated

00:45:43.730 --> 00:45:45.180 align:middle line:90%
version of Bayes' rule?

00:45:45.180 --> 00:45:47.810 align:middle line:84%
So let's compute the
ratio of the probability

00:45:47.810 --> 00:45:50.270 align:middle line:84%
that we picked the fair
coin given that we observed

00:45:50.270 --> 00:45:56.060 align:middle line:84%
a heads versus the probability
of picking the biased coin given

00:45:56.060 --> 00:45:59.270 align:middle line:90%
that we observed a heads.

00:45:59.270 --> 00:46:09.230 align:middle line:84%
So the probability of F given
H over probability of not F

00:46:09.230 --> 00:46:15.235 align:middle line:90%
given H. So what was that?

00:46:15.235 --> 00:46:32.810 align:middle line:90%


00:46:32.810 --> 00:46:37.380 align:middle line:84%
So Bayes' rule is about
flipping the order.

00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:39.380 align:middle line:84%
So instead of F
conditioned on H,

00:46:39.380 --> 00:46:44.760 align:middle line:84%
we want H conditioned on
F, multiplied by what?

00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:51.250 align:middle line:90%


00:46:51.250 --> 00:46:51.750 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:46:51.750 --> 00:46:52.780 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Probability of F.

00:46:52.780 --> 00:46:54.447 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah,
probability of f.

00:46:54.447 --> 00:46:58.600 align:middle line:90%


00:46:58.600 --> 00:47:01.090 align:middle line:84%
And on the bottom, we
can do the same thing.

00:47:01.090 --> 00:47:15.796 align:middle line:84%
Probability of H given not F
times the probability of not F.

00:47:15.796 --> 00:47:19.750 align:middle line:84%
So this expression is
much easier to work with.

00:47:19.750 --> 00:47:21.480 align:middle line:84%
What's the probability
of H given F?

00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:26.710 align:middle line:90%


00:47:26.710 --> 00:47:27.490 align:middle line:90%
Yep?

00:47:27.490 --> 00:47:28.292 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: One half.

00:47:28.292 --> 00:47:29.625 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: One half, yeah.

00:47:29.625 --> 00:47:33.970 align:middle line:90%


00:47:33.970 --> 00:47:35.970 align:middle line:84%
What about the probability
of H given not F?

00:47:35.970 --> 00:47:38.530 align:middle line:90%


00:47:38.530 --> 00:47:39.100 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:47:39.100 --> 00:47:39.870 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: One.

00:47:39.870 --> 00:47:40.745 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: One.

00:47:40.745 --> 00:47:43.170 align:middle line:90%


00:47:43.170 --> 00:47:45.545 align:middle line:90%
And probability of F and not F?

00:47:45.545 --> 00:47:50.460 align:middle line:90%


00:47:50.460 --> 00:47:52.650 align:middle line:84%
Those are each one
half by assumption.

00:47:52.650 --> 00:47:58.060 align:middle line:90%


00:47:58.060 --> 00:47:59.760 align:middle line:90%
So those just cancel.

00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.835 align:middle line:90%
And we are left with one half.

00:48:02.835 --> 00:48:07.405 align:middle line:90%


00:48:07.405 --> 00:48:11.290 align:middle line:84%
So now, what is
this probability?

00:48:11.290 --> 00:48:22.590 align:middle line:90%


00:48:22.590 --> 00:48:26.226 align:middle line:84%
We computed the ratio of this
probability to its complement.

00:48:26.226 --> 00:48:29.040 align:middle line:90%


00:48:29.040 --> 00:48:31.595 align:middle line:84%
So what does that tell
us the probability is?

00:48:31.595 --> 00:48:36.240 align:middle line:90%


00:48:36.240 --> 00:48:36.777 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:48:36.777 --> 00:48:37.610 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: One third.

00:48:37.610 --> 00:48:38.985 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN:
One third, yeah.

00:48:38.985 --> 00:48:55.520 align:middle line:90%


00:48:55.520 --> 00:49:02.792 align:middle line:84%
So observe here that
if our prior changes,

00:49:02.792 --> 00:49:06.920 align:middle line:84%
if the chance that we are
picking the fair coin to begin

00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:12.310 align:middle line:84%
with changes, this posterior
probability also changes.

00:49:12.310 --> 00:49:15.626 align:middle line:90%


00:49:15.626 --> 00:49:23.738 align:middle line:84%
So if I originally pick the fair
coin with very high probability

00:49:23.738 --> 00:49:28.760 align:middle line:84%
and then I observe a heads,
do you think the probability

00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.090 align:middle line:84%
that the posterior
probability should

00:49:32.090 --> 00:49:33.595 align:middle line:90%
be the same, higher, or lower?

00:49:33.595 --> 00:49:41.445 align:middle line:90%


00:49:41.445 --> 00:49:42.700 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Just a question.

00:49:42.700 --> 00:49:43.400 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Oh, yeah?

00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:44.065 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: How did
you get a third?

00:49:44.065 --> 00:49:45.620 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Oh, question.

00:49:45.620 --> 00:49:47.860 align:middle line:90%
How did we get a third?

00:49:47.860 --> 00:49:52.490 align:middle line:84%
So the ratio of this to
its complement is one half.

00:49:52.490 --> 00:49:53.842 align:middle line:90%
They sum to 1.

00:49:53.842 --> 00:49:55.050 align:middle line:90%
So they're one third and 2/3.

00:49:55.050 --> 00:50:02.110 align:middle line:90%


00:50:02.110 --> 00:50:03.330 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:50:03.330 --> 00:50:06.580 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Can you write the
numerical values of H and F?

00:50:06.580 --> 00:50:11.440 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: The
numerical values of H and F.

00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:15.970 align:middle line:90%
So H and F are events.

00:50:15.970 --> 00:50:18.950 align:middle line:90%
They're not numbers exactly.

00:50:18.950 --> 00:50:24.190 align:middle line:84%
So H is the event that
whichever coin I flipped,

00:50:24.190 --> 00:50:27.676 align:middle line:90%
it got a heads on it.

00:50:27.676 --> 00:50:33.100 align:middle line:84%
And F is the event that the
coin I picked was the fair one.

00:50:33.100 --> 00:50:35.290 align:middle line:90%
So they're not really numbers.

00:50:35.290 --> 00:50:40.230 align:middle line:84%
They're just sets of outcomes
that could have happened.

00:50:40.230 --> 00:50:40.730 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:50:40.730 --> 00:50:41.850 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
the assumptions.

00:50:41.850 --> 00:50:43.183 align:middle line:90%
Can you go over the assumptions?

00:50:43.183 --> 00:50:45.474 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN:
Oh, the assumptions.

00:50:45.474 --> 00:51:00.455 align:middle line:84%
So pick fair or biased
uniformly, and then flip it.

00:51:00.455 --> 00:51:03.450 align:middle line:90%


00:51:03.450 --> 00:51:07.450 align:middle line:84%
So "fair" means it comes up
with 50/50 heads or tails.

00:51:07.450 --> 00:51:09.200 align:middle line:90%
Biased, it's a two-headed coin.

00:51:09.200 --> 00:51:15.600 align:middle line:90%


00:51:15.600 --> 00:51:16.450 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:51:16.450 --> 00:51:17.520 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Could you
re-explain where

00:51:17.520 --> 00:51:18.665 align:middle line:90%
the one third came from again?

00:51:18.665 --> 00:51:21.207 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Explain where
the one third came from again.

00:51:21.207 --> 00:51:28.080 align:middle line:84%
So the probability of F given
H over not F given H, these

00:51:28.080 --> 00:51:29.710 align:middle line:90%
are complementary probabilities.

00:51:29.710 --> 00:51:31.500 align:middle line:90%
They should sum to 1.

00:51:31.500 --> 00:51:37.845 align:middle line:84%
So we've figured that the
ratio right is one half.

00:51:37.845 --> 00:51:40.470 align:middle line:90%


00:51:40.470 --> 00:51:45.050 align:middle line:84%
So if we want them to sum to 1,
then they should be one third

00:51:45.050 --> 00:51:47.420 align:middle line:90%
and 2/3.

00:51:47.420 --> 00:51:49.580 align:middle line:90%
Does that make sense?

00:51:49.580 --> 00:51:51.380 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

00:51:51.380 --> 00:51:53.810 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:51:53.810 --> 00:51:54.590 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:51:54.590 --> 00:51:57.720 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] do we care
which direction it's biased,

00:51:57.720 --> 00:51:58.220 align:middle line:90%
or--

00:51:58.220 --> 00:51:59.178 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Sorry?

00:51:59.178 --> 00:52:01.160 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: If it's
biased [INAUDIBLE]

00:52:01.160 --> 00:52:02.370 align:middle line:90%
do we care [INAUDIBLE]?

00:52:02.370 --> 00:52:03.840 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Oh, question.

00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:06.710 align:middle line:84%
If it's biased, do we care in
which direction it's biased?

00:52:06.710 --> 00:52:07.485 align:middle line:90%
Yes, absolutely.

00:52:07.485 --> 00:52:11.450 align:middle line:84%
[CHUCKLES] So if it's a
double-tailed coin instead

00:52:11.450 --> 00:52:15.060 align:middle line:84%
of a double-heads coin,
if I observe a heads,

00:52:15.060 --> 00:52:18.890 align:middle line:84%
it must be the fair coin because
the double-tails coin cannot get

00:52:18.890 --> 00:52:20.270 align:middle line:90%
a heads.

00:52:20.270 --> 00:52:22.000 align:middle line:84%
So then my
probability is just 1.

00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:33.630 align:middle line:90%


00:52:33.630 --> 00:52:36.670 align:middle line:84%
OK, are people reasonably
happy with this example?

00:52:36.670 --> 00:52:38.045 align:middle line:84%
Shall we move on
to a second one?

00:52:38.045 --> 00:52:41.880 align:middle line:90%


00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:44.950 align:middle line:90%
OK, second example--

00:52:44.950 --> 00:52:46.180 align:middle line:90%
COVID testing.

00:52:46.180 --> 00:52:49.920 align:middle line:84%
Woo-hoo, everybody loves
COVID testing, right?

00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:51.870 align:middle line:84%
Oh, I suppose you--
most of you probably

00:52:51.870 --> 00:52:55.680 align:middle line:84%
weren't here when there were
those daily or near-daily nasal

00:52:55.680 --> 00:52:57.420 align:middle line:90%
swabs, right?

00:52:57.420 --> 00:52:58.725 align:middle line:90%
Well, those were fun times.

00:52:58.725 --> 00:53:01.800 align:middle line:90%


00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.120 align:middle line:84%
So in the next
couple of examples,

00:53:04.120 --> 00:53:09.210 align:middle line:84%
we're going to see some rather
counterintuitive behavior that

00:53:09.210 --> 00:53:12.163 align:middle line:90%
arises from Bayes' rule.

00:53:12.163 --> 00:53:16.540 align:middle line:84%
So just as we were
discussing last time,

00:53:16.540 --> 00:53:20.310 align:middle line:84%
you want to throw away
intuitive reasoning

00:53:20.310 --> 00:53:24.220 align:middle line:90%
and just go with the numbers.

00:53:24.220 --> 00:53:35.380 align:middle line:90%
So suppose 10% of MIT has COVID.

00:53:35.380 --> 00:53:42.446 align:middle line:90%


00:53:42.446 --> 00:53:46.296 align:middle line:84%
And everybody has to
take a COVID test.

00:53:46.296 --> 00:54:01.100 align:middle line:84%
They have a
false-positive rate of 30%

00:54:01.100 --> 00:54:14.020 align:middle line:90%
and false-negative rate of 10%.

00:54:14.020 --> 00:54:18.830 align:middle line:84%
So false-positive rate
means if I am healthy

00:54:18.830 --> 00:54:22.130 align:middle line:84%
and I take a COVID test,
there's a 30% chance

00:54:22.130 --> 00:54:23.630 align:middle line:84%
that it's going to
be wrong and it's

00:54:23.630 --> 00:54:26.330 align:middle line:90%
going to say that I have COVID.

00:54:26.330 --> 00:54:30.720 align:middle line:84%
So it's falsely reporting
a positive result.

00:54:30.720 --> 00:54:32.390 align:middle line:84%
And false negative
is the opposite.

00:54:32.390 --> 00:54:34.790 align:middle line:84%
So if I'm sick and
I take a COVID test,

00:54:34.790 --> 00:54:37.700 align:middle line:84%
there is a 10% chance that
it does not detect it,

00:54:37.700 --> 00:54:39.790 align:middle line:90%
and it reports that I'm healthy.

00:54:39.790 --> 00:54:42.650 align:middle line:90%
Does this setup make sense?

00:54:42.650 --> 00:54:43.150 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:54:43.150 --> 00:54:45.490 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Are the false
positives included in the 10%?

00:54:45.490 --> 00:54:47.300 align:middle line:90%
Or is the 10% the actual--

00:54:47.300 --> 00:54:49.700 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN:
Oh, question was,

00:54:49.700 --> 00:54:51.710 align:middle line:84%
are the false positives
included in the 10%?

00:54:51.710 --> 00:54:53.920 align:middle line:84%
Or is the 10% when
you actually have it?

00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.280 align:middle line:84%
So this 10% is
conditioned on being sick.

00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:01.990 align:middle line:84%
The conditional probability
that it gets it wrong is 10%.

00:55:01.990 --> 00:55:04.690 align:middle line:84%
And the false-positive rate
is conditioned on being--

00:55:04.690 --> 00:55:07.430 align:middle line:84%
oh, sorry, false negative is
conditioned on being healthy.

00:55:07.430 --> 00:55:09.940 align:middle line:84%
False positive is
conditioned on being sick.

00:55:09.940 --> 00:55:11.830 align:middle line:90%
No.

00:55:11.830 --> 00:55:12.823 align:middle line:90%
No, positive is sick.

00:55:12.823 --> 00:55:14.240 align:middle line:84%
Yeah, it was right
the first time.

00:55:14.240 --> 00:55:14.770 align:middle line:90%
Sorry.

00:55:14.770 --> 00:55:17.470 align:middle line:90%
I'm confused.

00:55:17.470 --> 00:55:21.170 align:middle line:84%
Yeah, so these are both talking
about conditional probabilities.

00:55:21.170 --> 00:55:22.730 align:middle line:84%
Conditioned on being
healthy or sick,

00:55:22.730 --> 00:55:25.147 align:middle line:84%
what's the probability that
the test is accurate or wrong?

00:55:25.147 --> 00:55:29.390 align:middle line:90%


00:55:29.390 --> 00:55:32.070 align:middle line:90%
So let's define some events.

00:55:32.070 --> 00:55:35.193 align:middle line:90%
Let's say that H is healthy.

00:55:35.193 --> 00:55:40.080 align:middle line:90%


00:55:40.080 --> 00:55:42.016 align:middle line:90%
And S can be its complement--

00:55:42.016 --> 00:55:44.890 align:middle line:90%


00:55:44.890 --> 00:55:45.390 align:middle line:90%
sick.

00:55:45.390 --> 00:55:48.180 align:middle line:90%


00:55:48.180 --> 00:55:54.570 align:middle line:84%
Plus is going to
be positive result.

00:55:54.570 --> 00:56:05.134 align:middle line:84%
And minus is going to
be a negative result.

00:56:05.134 --> 00:56:11.940 align:middle line:84%
So suppose I take this COVID
test and it comes out positive.

00:56:11.940 --> 00:56:13.715 align:middle line:84%
What's the probability
that I have COVID?

00:56:13.715 --> 00:56:22.020 align:middle line:90%


00:56:22.020 --> 00:56:23.522 align:middle line:84%
So first, what is
the probability

00:56:23.522 --> 00:56:24.730 align:middle line:90%
that we're trying to compute?

00:56:24.730 --> 00:56:34.350 align:middle line:90%


00:56:34.350 --> 00:56:34.850 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:56:34.850 --> 00:56:35.975 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Probability of S.

00:56:35.975 --> 00:56:41.510 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Probability
of S. Unconditionally?

00:56:41.510 --> 00:56:44.533 align:middle line:90%


00:56:44.533 --> 00:56:45.950 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: If
[INAUDIBLE] positive.

00:56:45.950 --> 00:56:49.740 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah,
so S given positive.

00:56:49.740 --> 00:56:53.340 align:middle line:84%
The unconditional probability
of S is just 10% by assumption.

00:56:53.340 --> 00:56:57.230 align:middle line:84%
What we're actually looking
for is the probability

00:56:57.230 --> 00:57:01.010 align:middle line:84%
that I'm sick given that I
tested positive because that's

00:57:01.010 --> 00:57:02.530 align:middle line:90%
the observation that we made.

00:57:02.530 --> 00:57:05.780 align:middle line:90%


00:57:05.780 --> 00:57:07.375 align:middle line:90%
So how would we compute this?

00:57:07.375 --> 00:57:10.248 align:middle line:90%


00:57:10.248 --> 00:57:12.415 align:middle line:84%
Well, let's do the same
thing we just did over here.

00:57:12.415 --> 00:57:19.070 align:middle line:90%


00:57:19.070 --> 00:57:26.236 align:middle line:84%
Let's look at the ratio of this
probability to its complement

00:57:26.236 --> 00:57:29.170 align:middle line:90%
and apply Bayes' rule.

00:57:29.170 --> 00:57:33.550 align:middle line:84%
So we're going to flip
this conditional here--

00:57:33.550 --> 00:57:38.260 align:middle line:84%
positive given sick
times probability of sick

00:57:38.260 --> 00:57:45.850 align:middle line:84%
divided by probability of
positive given healthy times

00:57:45.850 --> 00:57:47.985 align:middle line:90%
probability of healthy.

00:57:47.985 --> 00:57:53.770 align:middle line:90%


00:57:53.770 --> 00:57:58.160 align:middle line:84%
Now, those four probabilities
are probabilities that we know.

00:57:58.160 --> 00:57:58.770 align:middle line:90%
What are they?

00:57:58.770 --> 00:58:06.820 align:middle line:90%


00:58:06.820 --> 00:58:09.795 align:middle line:84%
What's the probability of
plus given that I'm sick?

00:58:09.795 --> 00:58:13.480 align:middle line:90%


00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:15.114 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:58:15.114 --> 00:58:16.090 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: 90.

00:58:16.090 --> 00:58:18.340 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, 90%.

00:58:18.340 --> 00:58:22.380 align:middle line:90%
So let's write that as 0.9.

00:58:22.380 --> 00:58:28.110 align:middle line:84%
What's the prior
probability that I'm sick?

00:58:28.110 --> 00:58:29.050 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:58:29.050 --> 00:58:29.657 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: 10.

00:58:29.657 --> 00:58:30.490 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: 10.

00:58:30.490 --> 00:58:30.990 align:middle line:90%
10%.

00:58:30.990 --> 00:58:33.840 align:middle line:90%


00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:37.890 align:middle line:84%
And now what's the probability
of a positive result conditioned

00:58:37.890 --> 00:58:38.600 align:middle line:90%
on being healthy?

00:58:38.600 --> 00:58:45.630 align:middle line:90%


00:58:45.630 --> 00:58:46.660 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

00:58:46.660 --> 00:58:47.580 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: 0.3.

00:58:47.580 --> 00:58:51.720 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, that's
the false positive rate--

00:58:51.720 --> 00:58:55.470 align:middle line:84%
0.3 times-- and what's the
probability that I'm healthy,

00:58:55.470 --> 00:58:57.095 align:middle line:84%
the prior probability
that I'm healthy?

00:58:57.095 --> 00:59:04.855 align:middle line:90%


00:59:04.855 --> 00:59:07.230 align:middle line:84%
Well, that's just going to be
the complement of the event

00:59:07.230 --> 00:59:08.050 align:middle line:90%
that I'm sick.

00:59:08.050 --> 00:59:14.436 align:middle line:90%
So that's going to be 0.9.

00:59:14.436 --> 00:59:17.070 align:middle line:90%
So these 0.9's cancel.

00:59:17.070 --> 00:59:18.910 align:middle line:90%
This is going to be one third.

00:59:18.910 --> 00:59:22.340 align:middle line:90%


00:59:22.340 --> 00:59:26.670 align:middle line:84%
So I am one third as likely
to be sick as healthy.

00:59:26.670 --> 00:59:28.790 align:middle line:84%
So the probability that
I'm sick conditioned

00:59:28.790 --> 00:59:32.160 align:middle line:84%
on getting the positive result
is actually only 1 in 4.

00:59:32.160 --> 00:59:35.210 align:middle line:90%


00:59:35.210 --> 00:59:43.690 align:middle line:84%
So probability S given
plus equals one fourth.

00:59:43.690 --> 00:59:48.950 align:middle line:90%


00:59:48.950 --> 00:59:52.340 align:middle line:84%
Does that make
sense to everybody?

00:59:52.340 --> 00:59:56.480 align:middle line:84%
So it might seem a
little bit weird, right?

00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:58.640 align:middle line:90%
This test is a pretty good one.

00:59:58.640 --> 01:00:01.280 align:middle line:84%
It's usually giving
the right answer.

01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:03.240 align:middle line:90%
But I took the test.

01:00:03.240 --> 01:00:06.900 align:middle line:84%
I got a positive result. But
I'm still probably healthy.

01:00:06.900 --> 01:00:07.720 align:middle line:90%
Why is that?

01:00:07.720 --> 01:00:11.300 align:middle line:90%


01:00:11.300 --> 01:00:13.490 align:middle line:84%
Can anybody explain
what's going on here?

01:00:13.490 --> 01:00:14.210 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:00:14.210 --> 01:00:18.130 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: There's a slim
chance that you have COVID.

01:00:18.130 --> 01:00:19.970 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, exactly.

01:00:19.970 --> 01:00:22.940 align:middle line:84%
So there's a very slim chance
that I had COVID to begin with.

01:00:22.940 --> 01:00:25.910 align:middle line:84%
So it's actually much higher now
that I've got a positive result.

01:00:25.910 --> 01:00:31.840 align:middle line:84%
But the prior was overwhelmingly
in favor of being healthy.

01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:34.780 align:middle line:84%
And so it's still
very likely that I'm

01:00:34.780 --> 01:00:39.625 align:middle line:90%
healthy, just slightly less so.

01:00:39.625 --> 01:00:44.200 align:middle line:84%
So often, people
underestimate the impact

01:00:44.200 --> 01:00:47.776 align:middle line:90%
of the prior in this way.

01:00:47.776 --> 01:00:51.620 align:middle line:84%
Of course, in the real world,
you generally don't do this.

01:00:51.620 --> 01:00:55.180 align:middle line:84%
So if you get a positive result,
you can be more confident in it

01:00:55.180 --> 01:00:58.932 align:middle line:84%
because normally you only
test when you have symptoms.

01:00:58.932 --> 01:01:02.600 align:middle line:84%
So the probability
that you're sick,

01:01:02.600 --> 01:01:05.022 align:middle line:84%
given that you tested positive
and you have symptoms,

01:01:05.022 --> 01:01:07.355 align:middle line:84%
that's probably going to be
much higher than one fourth.

01:01:07.355 --> 01:01:15.340 align:middle line:90%


01:01:15.340 --> 01:01:18.480 align:middle line:90%
Are people happy with that?

01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:19.470 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:01:19.470 --> 01:01:24.743 align:middle line:84%
OK, why don't we look at another
interesting application called

01:01:24.743 --> 01:01:25.493 align:middle line:90%
Simpson's paradox?

01:01:25.493 --> 01:01:35.742 align:middle line:90%


01:01:35.742 --> 01:01:39.660 align:middle line:84%
So there's actually kind of a
funny story behind this one.

01:01:39.660 --> 01:01:45.390 align:middle line:84%
So about 50 years ago,
Berkeley, UC Berkeley,

01:01:45.390 --> 01:01:51.390 align:middle line:84%
got sued because it was claimed
that they were being very sexist

01:01:51.390 --> 01:01:54.630 align:middle line:90%
in their admissions policies.

01:01:54.630 --> 01:02:01.500 align:middle line:84%
And the claim was that the
admissions rate was much higher

01:02:01.500 --> 01:02:04.620 align:middle line:90%
for men than it was for women.

01:02:04.620 --> 01:02:07.440 align:middle line:90%
So that's clearly bad, right?

01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.900 align:middle line:84%
But then Berkeley
counterclaimed by saying

01:02:09.900 --> 01:02:11.860 align:middle line:84%
that if you look at each
individual department,

01:02:11.860 --> 01:02:13.440 align:middle line:90%
it's actually the opposite.

01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:19.112 align:middle line:84%
Women are being admitted with
much higher rates than men.

01:02:19.112 --> 01:02:23.300 align:middle line:90%
So what's going on?

01:02:23.300 --> 01:02:24.510 align:middle line:90%
Was somebody lying?

01:02:24.510 --> 01:02:25.645 align:middle line:90%
Can these both be true?

01:02:25.645 --> 01:02:29.030 align:middle line:90%


01:02:29.030 --> 01:02:31.910 align:middle line:90%
Any ideas?

01:02:31.910 --> 01:02:33.180 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:02:33.180 --> 01:02:36.130 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Maybe the
sizes of the departments.

01:02:36.130 --> 01:02:38.400 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah, exactly.

01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:43.370 align:middle line:84%
So the observation was that
the sizes of the departments

01:02:43.370 --> 01:02:45.396 align:middle line:90%
could be very different.

01:02:45.396 --> 01:02:49.310 align:middle line:90%
And what else?

01:02:49.310 --> 01:02:50.677 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:02:50.677 --> 01:02:53.660 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

01:02:53.660 --> 01:02:56.150 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah,
so the admissions rates--

01:02:56.150 --> 01:02:58.490 align:middle line:84%
the overall admissions
rates for the departments

01:02:58.490 --> 01:03:01.410 align:middle line:90%
can also be very different.

01:03:01.410 --> 01:03:06.830 align:middle line:84%
And so maybe there's
some departments--

01:03:06.830 --> 01:03:08.880 align:middle line:84%
let's take a look at
a very simple example.

01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:13.503 align:middle line:84%
So suppose we have two
departments, EE and CS.

01:03:13.503 --> 01:03:18.146 align:middle line:90%


01:03:18.146 --> 01:03:22.965 align:middle line:84%
And maybe both of them
mildly favor women.

01:03:22.965 --> 01:03:25.554 align:middle line:90%


01:03:25.554 --> 01:03:29.150 align:middle line:84%
But one of them is much
more popular with men.

01:03:29.150 --> 01:03:31.130 align:middle line:84%
One of them is much
more popular with women.

01:03:31.130 --> 01:03:35.510 align:middle line:84%
And they have very different
admissions rates generally.

01:03:35.510 --> 01:03:38.080 align:middle line:90%


01:03:38.080 --> 01:03:43.930 align:middle line:84%
So maybe we have a hundred
men and a hundred women

01:03:43.930 --> 01:03:48.430 align:middle line:84%
applying to this
two-department UC Berkeley.

01:03:48.430 --> 01:04:00.850 align:middle line:84%
And maybe we have 99 women
and one man apply to CS.

01:04:00.850 --> 01:04:03.280 align:middle line:84%
And in double E,
it's the opposite--

01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:06.270 align:middle line:90%
one woman and 99 men.

01:04:06.270 --> 01:04:11.479 align:middle line:90%


01:04:11.479 --> 01:04:18.120 align:middle line:84%
And maybe in CS, we're
a bunch of snobs.

01:04:18.120 --> 01:04:19.110 align:middle line:90%
We hate everybody.

01:04:19.110 --> 01:04:21.920 align:middle line:90%
We take one applicant.

01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:24.020 align:middle line:90%
So maybe we take--

01:04:24.020 --> 01:04:28.765 align:middle line:90%
one woman is accepted.

01:04:28.765 --> 01:04:29.890 align:middle line:90%
Everybody else is rejected.

01:04:29.890 --> 01:04:33.040 align:middle line:90%


01:04:33.040 --> 01:04:35.670 align:middle line:84%
And double E, on the other
hand, has no standards at all.

01:04:35.670 --> 01:04:38.120 align:middle line:84%
They'll just take
anybody with a pulse.

01:04:38.120 --> 01:04:40.020 align:middle line:84%
But unfortunately, one
of these men is dead.

01:04:40.020 --> 01:04:44.005 align:middle line:84%
So they take one
woman and 98 men.

01:04:44.005 --> 01:04:51.217 align:middle line:90%


01:04:51.217 --> 01:04:53.300 align:middle line:84%
So now, if you look at the
individual department's

01:04:53.300 --> 01:04:59.760 align:middle line:84%
admissions rates, CS
has accepted a woman.

01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:03.480 align:middle line:84%
So their admissions rate
for women is non-zero.

01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:04.760 align:middle line:90%
They haven't accepted any men.

01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:07.940 align:middle line:84%
So they've got a zero
admissions rate for men.

01:05:07.940 --> 01:05:11.500 align:middle line:90%
So it's higher for women.

01:05:11.500 --> 01:05:15.230 align:middle line:84%
And in double E, they've
accepted all of the women

01:05:15.230 --> 01:05:16.460 align:middle line:90%
but not all of the men.

01:05:16.460 --> 01:05:18.520 align:middle line:90%
So again, it's higher for women.

01:05:18.520 --> 01:05:21.672 align:middle line:84%
But if you look at
what's happened overall,

01:05:21.672 --> 01:05:25.800 align:middle line:84%
we've got two women being
accepted and 98 men.

01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:29.272 align:middle line:90%


01:05:29.272 --> 01:05:32.410 align:middle line:84%
So you can argue that,
rather than being

01:05:32.410 --> 01:05:37.460 align:middle line:84%
a problem with the University
or the departments,

01:05:37.460 --> 01:05:42.012 align:middle line:90%
it's more of a systemic problem.

01:05:42.012 --> 01:05:44.560 align:middle line:84%
Maybe they're
encouraging men and women

01:05:44.560 --> 01:05:47.210 align:middle line:84%
to apply to different
departments at different rates.

01:05:47.210 --> 01:05:49.820 align:middle line:90%
And it's all a bit messy.

01:05:49.820 --> 01:05:53.630 align:middle line:90%
And also, this is 50 years ago.

01:05:53.630 --> 01:05:56.140 align:middle line:84%
So they only really
considered men and women.

01:05:56.140 --> 01:06:01.760 align:middle line:84%
Didn't really consider anybody
who identified as anything else.

01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:04.220 align:middle line:84%
But we're not saying
anything about that.

01:06:04.220 --> 01:06:06.770 align:middle line:84%
This is just to
illustrate the maths.

01:06:06.770 --> 01:06:10.800 align:middle line:84%
So hopefully it's not
terribly offensive.

01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:16.200 align:middle line:84%
But yeah, even though,
for each department,

01:06:16.200 --> 01:06:18.490 align:middle line:84%
the women are doing
better than men,

01:06:18.490 --> 01:06:21.030 align:middle line:84%
the men are doing
much better overall.

01:06:21.030 --> 01:06:24.718 align:middle line:84%
So that's what we call
Simpson's paradox.

01:06:24.718 --> 01:06:26.510 align:middle line:84%
Does anybody have any
questions about that?

01:06:26.510 --> 01:06:33.930 align:middle line:90%


01:06:33.930 --> 01:06:38.353 align:middle line:90%
OK, so last example.

01:06:38.353 --> 01:06:42.450 align:middle line:90%


01:06:42.450 --> 01:06:46.530 align:middle line:84%
Has anybody seen
The Dragon Prince?

01:06:46.530 --> 01:06:47.860 align:middle line:90%
A couple of hands.

01:06:47.860 --> 01:06:52.230 align:middle line:90%
OK, well, so last example.

01:06:52.230 --> 01:06:55.200 align:middle line:84%
Suppose a cake has gone
missing from the bakery.

01:06:55.200 --> 01:07:00.460 align:middle line:84%
And Barius the baker
has a prime suspect.

01:07:00.460 --> 01:07:02.375 align:middle line:84%
He thinks that Prince
Ezran stole the cake.

01:07:02.375 --> 01:07:05.640 align:middle line:90%


01:07:05.640 --> 01:07:10.610 align:middle line:84%
And he wants to present
evidence to the king.

01:07:10.610 --> 01:07:16.340 align:middle line:84%
He would like to tell the king
that this deviant is always

01:07:16.340 --> 01:07:18.360 align:middle line:84%
stealing jelly tarts
from my bakery.

01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:21.590 align:middle line:84%
That makes it much more likely
that he stole the cake, right?

01:07:21.590 --> 01:07:23.930 align:middle line:84%
Jelly tart thieves
are 10 times as likely

01:07:23.930 --> 01:07:25.585 align:middle line:90%
as randos to steal cakes.

01:07:25.585 --> 01:07:28.250 align:middle line:90%


01:07:28.250 --> 01:07:30.170 align:middle line:90%
That seems fairly reasonable.

01:07:30.170 --> 01:07:32.210 align:middle line:84%
Does anybody think that
this is a good reason

01:07:32.210 --> 01:07:37.490 align:middle line:84%
to admit the jelly tart
thievery into evidence?

01:07:37.490 --> 01:07:41.190 align:middle line:84%
Who thinks that it's
not a compelling reason?

01:07:41.190 --> 01:07:41.690 align:middle line:90%
No?

01:07:41.690 --> 01:07:43.790 align:middle line:90%
Who has no idea?

01:07:43.790 --> 01:07:44.820 align:middle line:90%
More hands.

01:07:44.820 --> 01:07:45.830 align:middle line:90%
OK.

01:07:45.830 --> 01:07:51.030 align:middle line:84%
So maybe Prince Ezran's
counterclaim is, well,

01:07:51.030 --> 01:07:55.020 align:middle line:84%
if you look at all jelly tart
thieves, only one in, say,

01:07:55.020 --> 01:07:58.340 align:middle line:84%
2,500 of them actually
go on to steal cakes.

01:07:58.340 --> 01:08:06.070 align:middle line:84%
So even though the probability
of being a cake thief has

01:08:06.070 --> 01:08:08.770 align:middle line:84%
increased dramatically
from the baseline in terms

01:08:08.770 --> 01:08:12.610 align:middle line:84%
of a multiplicative factor, it
can't actually have increased

01:08:12.610 --> 01:08:18.130 align:middle line:84%
very much because it went from
1 in 25,000 to 1 in 2,500.

01:08:18.130 --> 01:08:23.029 align:middle line:84%
So the probative value
here is essentially 0.

01:08:23.029 --> 01:08:25.899 align:middle line:84%
You're trying to prove guilt
beyond a reasonable doubt.

01:08:25.899 --> 01:08:31.160 align:middle line:84%
And so a 1-in-2,500-chance
increase is kind of negligible.

01:08:31.160 --> 01:08:34.580 align:middle line:84%
But on the other hand, if
you admit this into evidence,

01:08:34.580 --> 01:08:36.923 align:middle line:84%
the king is going to be
biased against Ezran.

01:08:36.923 --> 01:08:38.840 align:middle line:84%
He's going to be like,
oh, this kid's a thief.

01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:39.680 align:middle line:90%
This is terrible.

01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:43.289 align:middle line:84%
We got to punish him, regardless
of whether he stole the cake.

01:08:43.289 --> 01:08:45.819 align:middle line:90%


01:08:45.819 --> 01:08:48.200 align:middle line:90%
So who's right?

01:08:48.200 --> 01:08:49.609 align:middle line:90%
Is the baker right?

01:08:49.609 --> 01:08:51.510 align:middle line:90%
Or is the suspect right?

01:08:51.510 --> 01:08:55.090 align:middle line:90%


01:08:55.090 --> 01:08:56.220 align:middle line:90%
Who thinks baker is right?

01:08:56.220 --> 01:09:00.100 align:middle line:90%


01:09:00.100 --> 01:09:03.420 align:middle line:90%
Who thinks suspect is right?

01:09:03.420 --> 01:09:04.220 align:middle line:90%
Who thinks neither?

01:09:04.220 --> 01:09:05.544 align:middle line:90%
[CHUCKLES]

01:09:05.544 --> 01:09:08.850 align:middle line:90%


01:09:08.850 --> 01:09:10.415 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, I've got a few hands.

01:09:10.415 --> 01:09:10.915 align:middle line:90%
OK.

01:09:10.915 --> 01:09:14.490 align:middle line:90%


01:09:14.490 --> 01:09:18.330 align:middle line:84%
Well, both parties
here are trying

01:09:18.330 --> 01:09:24.705 align:middle line:84%
to reason about a
conditional probability.

01:09:24.705 --> 01:09:27.069 align:middle line:84%
What is that
conditional probability?

01:09:27.069 --> 01:09:34.649 align:middle line:90%


01:09:34.649 --> 01:09:35.460 align:middle line:90%
Anybody?

01:09:35.460 --> 01:09:40.229 align:middle line:90%


01:09:40.229 --> 01:09:43.200 align:middle line:84%
Well, maybe we should start
by writing out some events.

01:09:43.200 --> 01:09:53.690 align:middle line:84%
So let's let J be the event
suspect steals jelly tarts.

01:09:53.690 --> 01:09:59.070 align:middle line:90%


01:09:59.070 --> 01:10:01.545 align:middle line:84%
C can be the event
suspect steals cake.

01:10:01.545 --> 01:10:10.220 align:middle line:90%


01:10:10.220 --> 01:10:13.645 align:middle line:84%
And X can be the
event cake was stolen.

01:10:13.645 --> 01:10:22.580 align:middle line:90%


01:10:22.580 --> 01:10:25.460 align:middle line:84%
So both the baker
and the suspect

01:10:25.460 --> 01:10:29.000 align:middle line:84%
were making claims about
conditional probabilities.

01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:30.710 align:middle line:84%
What specific
conditional probability

01:10:30.710 --> 01:10:33.670 align:middle line:84%
in terms of these events were
they making claims about?

01:10:33.670 --> 01:10:48.255 align:middle line:90%


01:10:48.255 --> 01:10:48.755 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:10:48.755 --> 01:10:50.547 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Can you
repeat the assumptions?

01:10:50.547 --> 01:10:51.505 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Sorry?

01:10:51.505 --> 01:10:53.380 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Can you
repeat the assumptions?

01:10:53.380 --> 01:10:54.480 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN:
Repeat the assertions?

01:10:54.480 --> 01:10:55.397 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Assumptions.

01:10:55.397 --> 01:10:56.960 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN:
Oh, the assumptions.

01:10:56.960 --> 01:10:59.120 align:middle line:84%
So the assumptions
were that a cake has

01:10:59.120 --> 01:11:00.710 align:middle line:90%
gone missing from the bakery.

01:11:00.710 --> 01:11:04.390 align:middle line:90%
The baker has a prime suspect.

01:11:04.390 --> 01:11:08.830 align:middle line:84%
And the baker wants to admit
into evidence that this suspect

01:11:08.830 --> 01:11:11.960 align:middle line:90%
is always stealing jelly tarts.

01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:17.470 align:middle line:84%
And the reasoning is
that jelly tart thieves

01:11:17.470 --> 01:11:21.195 align:middle line:84%
are much more likely to steal
cakes than random other people.

01:11:21.195 --> 01:11:24.145 align:middle line:90%


01:11:24.145 --> 01:11:28.400 align:middle line:84%
And the suspect counters
by saying, well, sure,

01:11:28.400 --> 01:11:31.750 align:middle line:84%
but only 1 in 2,500 jelly tart
thieves is actually a cake

01:11:31.750 --> 01:11:34.465 align:middle line:90%
thief.

01:11:34.465 --> 01:11:41.572 align:middle line:84%
So the actual increase
is less than 1 in 2,500.

01:11:41.572 --> 01:11:44.030 align:middle line:84%
So what are the probabilities
that they're reasoning about?

01:11:44.030 --> 01:11:46.010 align:middle line:84%
What are the conditional
probabilities?

01:11:46.010 --> 01:11:49.295 align:middle line:90%


01:11:49.295 --> 01:11:49.795 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:11:49.795 --> 01:11:51.046 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

01:11:51.046 --> 01:11:54.790 align:middle line:90%


01:11:54.790 --> 01:11:56.800 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah.

01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:58.160 align:middle line:90%
Well, you're both right.

01:11:58.160 --> 01:12:01.470 align:middle line:84%
Sorry, it's--
[CHUCKLES] geometry.

01:12:01.470 --> 01:12:09.610 align:middle line:84%
They're both trying to reason
about probability of C given J.

01:12:09.610 --> 01:12:12.180 align:middle line:84%
So we're conditioning on the
suspect having stolen jelly

01:12:12.180 --> 01:12:13.180 align:middle line:90%
tarts.

01:12:13.180 --> 01:12:17.085 align:middle line:84%
And they're both trying
to make claims about,

01:12:17.085 --> 01:12:19.445 align:middle line:84%
what is the probability
of C conditioned on that?

01:12:19.445 --> 01:12:25.794 align:middle line:90%


01:12:25.794 --> 01:12:30.810 align:middle line:84%
So, well, the baker is
arguing that probability of C

01:12:30.810 --> 01:12:39.383 align:middle line:84%
given J divided by probability
of C given not J is high.

01:12:39.383 --> 01:12:44.050 align:middle line:90%


01:12:44.050 --> 01:12:49.033 align:middle line:84%
So because this is about 10, J
is very relevant to the case.

01:12:49.033 --> 01:12:50.075 align:middle line:90%
So it should be admitted.

01:12:50.075 --> 01:12:53.241 align:middle line:90%


01:12:53.241 --> 01:13:00.380 align:middle line:84%
The suspect is saying that
probability of C given J is low.

01:13:00.380 --> 01:13:03.390 align:middle line:90%


01:13:03.390 --> 01:13:08.460 align:middle line:84%
So J cannot actually
dramatically increase

01:13:08.460 --> 01:13:10.990 align:middle line:90%
the probability.

01:13:10.990 --> 01:13:13.750 align:middle line:84%
The increase is going to be
less than this probability.

01:13:13.750 --> 01:13:18.240 align:middle line:90%


01:13:18.240 --> 01:13:19.050 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:13:19.050 --> 01:13:25.440 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] single
person, a single piece.

01:13:25.440 --> 01:13:31.260 align:middle line:84%
If this were an actual event,
wouldn't these probabilities

01:13:31.260 --> 01:13:34.630 align:middle line:84%
only really work in
aggregate [INAUDIBLE]?

01:13:34.630 --> 01:13:39.070 align:middle line:90%


01:13:39.070 --> 01:13:42.450 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah,
so that's a good point.

01:13:42.450 --> 01:13:45.240 align:middle line:84%
So the point was
that we're talking

01:13:45.240 --> 01:13:48.420 align:middle line:84%
about one individual suspect,
one individual cake, one

01:13:48.420 --> 01:13:49.950 align:middle line:90%
individual case.

01:13:49.950 --> 01:13:55.000 align:middle line:84%
So as we were saying before
when we first started looking

01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:59.000 align:middle line:84%
at Bayes' rule, either
it happened or it didn't.

01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:01.570 align:middle line:84%
You could say that it doesn't
make a whole lot of sense

01:14:01.570 --> 01:14:04.100 align:middle line:90%
to talk about probabilities.

01:14:04.100 --> 01:14:09.820 align:middle line:84%
But you're trying to convince
the king or a jury or somebody.

01:14:09.820 --> 01:14:13.180 align:middle line:84%
So this is kind
of similar to when

01:14:13.180 --> 01:14:16.882 align:middle line:84%
you present DNA evidence in
court or something like that.

01:14:16.882 --> 01:14:18.340 align:middle line:84%
The fact that
there's a match means

01:14:18.340 --> 01:14:19.930 align:middle line:84%
that there's
overwhelming probability

01:14:19.930 --> 01:14:21.850 align:middle line:84%
that the suspect was
at the crime scene

01:14:21.850 --> 01:14:23.080 align:middle line:90%
or something like that.

01:14:23.080 --> 01:14:28.180 align:middle line:84%
So you do still talk
about probabilities.

01:14:28.180 --> 01:14:30.760 align:middle line:84%
But you could think of it as
like, how confident are you

01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:34.600 align:middle line:84%
in the inference that the
suspect did something?

01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:36.712 align:middle line:90%
Does that make sense?

01:14:36.712 --> 01:14:38.430 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Yeah.

01:14:38.430 --> 01:14:39.390 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: OK.

01:14:39.390 --> 01:14:52.522 align:middle line:90%


01:14:52.522 --> 01:14:57.600 align:middle line:84%
So if you were the judge
in this case determining

01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:00.360 align:middle line:84%
what should be
presented to the king,

01:15:00.360 --> 01:15:01.820 align:middle line:90%
what would your verdict be?

01:15:01.820 --> 01:15:05.340 align:middle line:90%


01:15:05.340 --> 01:15:09.040 align:middle line:84%
Do we allow jelly tart
thievery into evidence or no?

01:15:09.040 --> 01:15:10.355 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Draw a tree diagram.

01:15:10.355 --> 01:15:11.355 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Pardon?

01:15:11.355 --> 01:15:12.951 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Draw a tree diagram.

01:15:12.951 --> 01:15:14.951 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: [CHUCKLES]
Draw a tree diagram.

01:15:14.951 --> 01:15:16.784 align:middle line:84%
Well, that's not actually
necessary anymore.

01:15:16.784 --> 01:15:19.270 align:middle line:84%
We've already figured out
what the probabilities are.

01:15:19.270 --> 01:15:24.720 align:middle line:84%
The question is, is the
probative value good enough

01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:28.270 align:middle line:84%
to justify putting
it into evidence?

01:15:28.270 --> 01:15:31.110 align:middle line:84%
Or is the probative
value small enough

01:15:31.110 --> 01:15:34.780 align:middle line:84%
that the bias is going
to be more of a factor?

01:15:34.780 --> 01:15:35.550 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:15:35.550 --> 01:15:41.385 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] the
evidence about the jelly part

01:15:41.385 --> 01:15:45.460 align:middle line:84%
because, also, like, an
MIT student, for instance,

01:15:45.460 --> 01:15:47.760 align:middle line:84%
given an amazing
student, there's

01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:51.880 align:middle line:84%
a very low chance of them
being a cake thief [INAUDIBLE].

01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:55.600 align:middle line:90%


01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:57.070 align:middle line:84%
I guess this is
what I'm wondering

01:15:57.070 --> 01:16:01.390 align:middle line:84%
about an individual instance
where it doesn't really

01:16:01.390 --> 01:16:02.210 align:middle line:90%
count for them.

01:16:02.210 --> 01:16:05.530 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah,
so it will not generally

01:16:05.530 --> 01:16:06.590 align:middle line:90%
capture the full story.

01:16:06.590 --> 01:16:08.740 align:middle line:84%
And this is why
lawyers in a courtroom

01:16:08.740 --> 01:16:13.610 align:middle line:84%
are trying to find all kinds of
evidence to bolster their cases.

01:16:13.610 --> 01:16:15.730 align:middle line:84%
So, yeah, something like
that might be something

01:16:15.730 --> 01:16:20.440 align:middle line:84%
that the defense
would want to present.

01:16:20.440 --> 01:16:22.940 align:middle line:84%
Or the prosecution
might be like, oh,

01:16:22.940 --> 01:16:24.530 align:middle line:84%
but even though
it's an MIT student,

01:16:24.530 --> 01:16:29.070 align:middle line:84%
it's an MIT EECS student who do
steal cakes all the time, so--

01:16:29.070 --> 01:16:31.658 align:middle line:84%
[CHUCKLES] I'm
getting some nods.

01:16:31.658 --> 01:16:32.700 align:middle line:90%
That's mildly concerning.

01:16:32.700 --> 01:16:34.496 align:middle line:90%
[LAUGHING]

01:16:34.496 --> 01:16:35.440 align:middle line:90%


01:16:35.440 --> 01:16:39.610 align:middle line:84%
So, yeah, it's going to be
very difficult to capture

01:16:39.610 --> 01:16:41.680 align:middle line:90%
the entire picture.

01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:44.560 align:middle line:84%
For right now, we're just
trying to limit the scope to,

01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:46.730 align:middle line:84%
these are the things
that are known.

01:16:46.730 --> 01:16:48.560 align:middle line:90%
We know that a cake is stolen.

01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:51.330 align:middle line:84%
We know that this suspect
steals jelly tarts.

01:16:51.330 --> 01:16:52.180 align:middle line:90%
But that's it.

01:16:52.180 --> 01:16:54.930 align:middle line:84%
We want to try and
figure out what

01:16:54.930 --> 01:17:00.450 align:middle line:84%
the probative value of this
evidence is just based on those.

01:17:00.450 --> 01:17:03.390 align:middle line:90%
Does that make sense?

01:17:03.390 --> 01:17:08.400 align:middle line:84%
So who thinks the jelly
tarts should be admitted?

01:17:08.400 --> 01:17:09.155 align:middle line:90%
Who thinks no?

01:17:09.155 --> 01:17:11.700 align:middle line:90%


01:17:11.700 --> 01:17:15.760 align:middle line:84%
OK, I'm getting more hands
this time, less abstentions.

01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:18.835 align:middle line:90%
Does anybody want to say why?

01:17:18.835 --> 01:17:19.335 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:17:19.335 --> 01:17:23.770 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Probability of C given
[INAUDIBLE] low [INAUDIBLE]

01:17:23.770 --> 01:17:26.340 align:middle line:84%
low probability of
C given [INAUDIBLE].

01:17:26.340 --> 01:17:29.392 align:middle line:84%
So that could account for an
inflated probability as well.

01:17:29.392 --> 01:17:32.130 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah,
so the observation

01:17:32.130 --> 01:17:35.800 align:middle line:84%
was the probability of C
given not J is also very low.

01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:37.770 align:middle line:84%
And in fact, it is
much lower than C

01:17:37.770 --> 01:17:43.500 align:middle line:84%
given J. So that's where
the ratio there, probability

01:17:43.500 --> 01:17:48.390 align:middle line:84%
of C given J over C given
not J, is coming from.

01:17:48.390 --> 01:17:51.330 align:middle line:84%
Probability of C
given J is 1 in 2,500.

01:17:51.330 --> 01:17:54.650 align:middle line:84%
Probability of C given
not J is 1 in 25,000.

01:17:54.650 --> 01:17:57.350 align:middle line:84%
So that's where you're
getting this factor of 10.

01:17:57.350 --> 01:18:00.920 align:middle line:84%
So you agree with the
defense, that it should not

01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:04.220 align:middle line:90%
be admitted into evidence.

01:18:04.220 --> 01:18:06.270 align:middle line:84%
Does anybody have
any counterclaims?

01:18:06.270 --> 01:18:10.460 align:middle line:90%


01:18:10.460 --> 01:18:12.020 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:18:12.020 --> 01:18:14.660 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So wouldn't
you consider the part

01:18:14.660 --> 01:18:19.443 align:middle line:84%
where the thief also steals
where the cake is stolen before?

01:18:19.443 --> 01:18:20.360 align:middle line:90%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah.

01:18:20.360 --> 01:18:21.234 align:middle line:90%
[CHUCKLES]

01:18:21.234 --> 01:18:23.853 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

01:18:23.853 --> 01:18:25.770 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Yeah,
so that's a good point.

01:18:25.770 --> 01:18:27.728 align:middle line:84%
We've kind of forgotten
about something, right?

01:18:27.728 --> 01:18:29.038 align:middle line:90%
[CHUCKLES]

01:18:29.038 --> 01:18:32.990 align:middle line:90%


01:18:32.990 --> 01:18:34.115 align:middle line:90%
The cake was stolen, right?

01:18:34.115 --> 01:18:35.532 align:middle line:84%
We don't care that
the probability

01:18:35.532 --> 01:18:36.810 align:middle line:90%
of cakes being stolen is low.

01:18:36.810 --> 01:18:37.540 align:middle line:90%
It happened.

01:18:37.540 --> 01:18:40.640 align:middle line:90%
[LAUGHS] Right?

01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:46.380 align:middle line:84%
So we don't really care about
these probabilities at all.

01:18:46.380 --> 01:18:48.255 align:middle line:84%
What is the actual
probability we care about?

01:18:48.255 --> 01:18:52.960 align:middle line:90%


01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:57.690 align:middle line:84%
What we really want is
probability of C given, what?

01:18:57.690 --> 01:19:02.530 align:middle line:90%


01:19:02.530 --> 01:19:04.630 align:middle line:90%
Yeah?

01:19:04.630 --> 01:19:07.450 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Given that they
stole the jelly tarts

01:19:07.450 --> 01:19:08.367 align:middle line:90%
and they stole a cake?

01:19:08.367 --> 01:19:10.450 align:middle line:84%
BRYNMOR CHAPMAN: Well, not
that they stole a cake,

01:19:10.450 --> 01:19:11.710 align:middle line:90%
but that a cake was stolen.

01:19:11.710 --> 01:19:12.460 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:19:12.460 --> 01:19:21.460 align:middle line:84%
So C given J and X. So that's
what we really care about.

01:19:21.460 --> 01:19:26.345 align:middle line:84%
The fact that the cake is
stolen is really important.

01:19:26.345 --> 01:19:28.220 align:middle line:84%
If you don't know whether
the cake is stolen,

01:19:28.220 --> 01:19:29.553 align:middle line:90%
why are you even having a trial?

01:19:29.553 --> 01:19:32.770 align:middle line:90%


01:19:32.770 --> 01:19:35.770 align:middle line:84%
And as it turns out,
this probability

01:19:35.770 --> 01:19:37.230 align:middle line:90%
is something like 80%.

01:19:37.230 --> 01:19:40.960 align:middle line:90%


01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:43.795 align:middle line:84%
Jelly tart thieves found in
bakeries with missing cakes,

01:19:43.795 --> 01:19:45.170 align:middle line:84%
usually they're
the guilty party.

01:19:45.170 --> 01:19:48.600 align:middle line:90%


01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:52.900 align:middle line:84%
So, yeah, I've kind of made this
a little bit more palatable.

01:19:52.900 --> 01:19:58.630 align:middle line:84%
But this is based on an
actual courtroom case.

01:19:58.630 --> 01:20:01.470 align:middle line:84%
This is the kind of
thing that people--

01:20:01.470 --> 01:20:04.770 align:middle line:84%
people try and use and end
up misusing probabilities

01:20:04.770 --> 01:20:06.790 align:middle line:84%
and conditional
probabilities all the time.

01:20:06.790 --> 01:20:09.990 align:middle line:84%
This was actually from a very
high profile case, the OJ

01:20:09.990 --> 01:20:15.180 align:middle line:84%
Simpson case, where both the
defense and the prosecution

01:20:15.180 --> 01:20:18.270 align:middle line:84%
attorneys, they're
supposed to be experts.

01:20:18.270 --> 01:20:20.250 align:middle line:84%
But they were both
making bogus claims

01:20:20.250 --> 01:20:23.610 align:middle line:90%
about conditional probabilities.

01:20:23.610 --> 01:20:26.590 align:middle line:84%
It's very easy to make
these kinds of mistakes.

01:20:26.590 --> 01:20:29.133 align:middle line:90%
So fall back on fundamentals.

01:20:29.133 --> 01:20:31.300 align:middle line:84%
When you're in doubt, fall
back on the fundamentals.

01:20:31.300 --> 01:20:33.570 align:middle line:84%
Even if you're not, it's
probably a good idea anyway.

01:20:33.570 --> 01:20:36.190 align:middle line:84%
OK, feel free to come up
if you have any questions.

01:20:36.190 --> 01:20:39.380 align:middle line:84%
And otherwise, we will
see you next week.

01:20:39.380 --> 01:20:44.000 align:middle line:90%