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PROFESSOR: Maybe a few of you
were expecting a quiz today.

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But I actually said
in class on Friday

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that I wouldn't give
the quiz this week.

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So sticking with that,
I'm not giving it.

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It was to be on
the Wilson notes.

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Well, if we can fit
it in later, we might.

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But I want you to
focus on your projects,

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because the reading is
not very heavy this week.

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First is his chapter on
cultural determinism.

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So we'll talk about
that today, and then

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the remaining matters
on Friday and Monday.

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Sorry, that left projector--

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the bulb won't come on,
at least not from here.

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This is how Alcock
starts this chapter

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on cultural determinism.

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He quotes this sociology book.

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"Human biology does nothing
to structure human society."

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And that's common belief
among sociologists

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and cultural anthropologist,
as we shall see.

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They don't like sociobiology.

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And some of that is still true.

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The arguments, I think,
are more against biology

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in general, when it
concerns evolution

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applied to human beings.

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Dennett in '95 called it
"Darwin's dangerous idea."

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[CHUCKLING] It's not just
due to interpretations

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that are common among
followers of religions.

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It's also found in academia,
in these groups I mentioned,

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and educators as well.

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But there are certain
errors that are

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repeated in their statements.

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And one is, you could say,
the Arab false dichotomy.

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So what is the dichotomy?

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They're saying they favor
one side, not the other side.

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It's either culture or biology.

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Either learned or innate.

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Either nature or nurture.

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We've talked about this before.

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It's actually always both.

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The same is true for culture,
evolutionary influences,

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and cultural influences
on human behavior.

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It's just a
nature-nurture issue.

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They also confuse proximate
and evolutionary or ultimate

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hypotheses.

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That's also very common
in their statements.

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Alcock tells the story of
Frank Boas and his students.

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Boas was very well known.

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He calls him the first modern
cultural anthropologist

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of note.

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And he asserted his belief
in the autonomy of culture

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from biology, thereby,
according to Alcock,

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freeing the study
of human behavior

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from evolutionary biology,
which had become admittedly

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tainted by many people who
associated it with racism,

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social Darwinism, and eugenics.

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They were, as you know from
reading earlier in the book,

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used by critics of sociobiology.

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So Boas, at least
according to his students,

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promoted this idea that
the cultural practices

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are limitless and essentially
arbitrary in nature.

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And one of those students
became very well known--

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Margaret Mead.

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I remember meeting a friend
of mine in high school--

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a girl who had
mapped out her career

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based on the career
of Margaret Mead.

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She was going to become a
cultural anthropologist.

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She was going to travel, give
lectures, get paid for them,

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and so on and so forth--
just like Margaret Mead.

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I don't know how
that turned out.

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[LAUGHTER]

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Anyway, this was the book.

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Margaret Mead wrote
this book entitled,

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Coming of Age in Samoa.

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It was written '28,
or published in '28.

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It was very widely quoted.

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It certainly was well
known up to about 1975.

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And I think it's declined
somewhat since then.

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And there are good
reasons for that.

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So let's look at why would
people be interested in Samoa?

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Because she claimed
that the society

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there was very different
from American society.

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She said they were
sexually free.

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There was no conflict
between kids and parents.

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They were allowed to do
whatever they wanted.

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There was no rape,
and so on so forth.

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One of these idyllic societies.

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Well, she was only
there for 12 weeks,

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and interviewed a group
of young women there.

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She quickly learned
enough of the language.

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She could communicate
with them, but that was

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the extent of her actual study.

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Well, Derek Freeman
went there much later.

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And it led to a book in 1983.

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He spent-- I don't
remember how long,

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but it was a couple
of years, I think.

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And he wrote a book in
1983, very critical of Mead.

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So let's just go through
Margaret Mead's claims

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that turned out to
be much too extreme.

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So we want to know, how did she
come to believe those claims?

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Why did she make errors?

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And we've already
talked about Frank Boas

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and what he believed.

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And she was his student and
she promoted those ideas

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in this book.

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She claimed that Samoan
society is very different

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from our society, having
very relaxed attitudes

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towards premarital
sex by young women.

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And that used to be much
stricter at the time she

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wrote that book--

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far stricter than it is now
in modern American society.

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She also claimed an
absence of rape, freedom

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from emotional turbulence
during adolescence.

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And remember, these
were adolescent girls

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she was interviewing.

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So this is what she had done.

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At age 23, because
of being told by

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other cultural anthropologists
about Samoan society,

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she wanted to verify
what they were believing.

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So she based the study on
interviewing 25 young women.

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Now those 25 women,
many of them--

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most of them-- were still alive
when Derek Freeman went there.

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So he talked to
the very same women

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when they were much older.

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And as Freeman
described, she didn't

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stay in Samoa for really
extensive observations.

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She just believed what
the girls told her.

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And they were often kidding her.

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[CHUCKLING] She heard
what she wanted to hear.

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She wasn't critical
in her method.

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And this belief of Boas is
what she wanted to promote.

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There's certainly
the same issues

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faced by sociobiologists
since then,

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when they have applied the
ideas and methods to humans.

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That's what got E.O. Wilson,
we say, in such trouble.

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He was in trouble because he
put a chapter on human society--

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the very last
chapter of the book--

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applying sociobiology
ideas to humans.

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I mean, the bulk of the book
is about animal behavior--

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animal social behavior
in particular.

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So this is how I would
summarize it all.

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She tried to do a
scientific study.

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She was young,
inexperienced, 23 years old.

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She made big mistakes.

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But her book became very
popular and had a wide influence

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despite those errors.

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And the errors didn't really
become well known until--

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and I don't think
they're well known

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now except among academics.

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And that took many years.

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So they obviously-- these
cultural anthropologists--

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had a blank-slate
view of human nature.

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And we have talked
about how that conflicts

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with sociobiological views.

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But what do blank-slate
views of human nature

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actually predict about social
structure and practices?

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And as we summarize
that, just note

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that it's easy to make these
ideas believable about humans,

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but not for animals.

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It's much more hard to
make these predictions

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about animals.

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There's two new things here
about this whole discussion.

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One is Gould's claim that--

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he was criticized
by sociobiologists

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for talking so much about
biological determinism

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that he changed it to
biological potentiality.

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So he claimed that
a human has a brain

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capable of a full range
of human behaviors

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and predisposed towards none.

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He was a biologist--

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an evolutionary biologist--
writing regularly

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in the magazine Natural History.

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And he was very well known.

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And he sort of becomes a
whipping boy in Alcock's book.

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The problem is, there was
a lack of rigorous tests

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of the predictions of
cultural determinism.

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And Alcock tries to suggest
some predictions that the critic

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should be testing.

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And giving you where he
does that, he basically

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says human behavior should
differ greatly and arbitrarily

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from society to society.

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And he gives examples of that.

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Do you think that's true?

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Should societies
differ arbitrarily?

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Well, there's got to be
some constraints, right?

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But they claim there's no
inheritance of behavior

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in humans, only in animals.

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Or at least not--

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you know, when you
start thinking about it,

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does that mean they
don't believe that we

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inherit the ability to walk?

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I don't think so.

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But actually, most
of them do believe

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we have to learn to walk, as I
pointed out a number of times--

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even though it's actually
a fixed-action pattern,

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as many other things
are in human, as well as

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in animal, behavior.

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So Alcock tries to apply that.

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And I think it's pretty
interesting when you actually

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make the predictions and you
look from society to society.

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And we find out that there
are wide differences.

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But they're not arbitrary,
random differences at all.

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So read that, and you will see
exactly what I'm talking about.

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I'm not going to
go over them now.

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It's very clear
in Alcock's book.

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And you should be familiar with
how difficult those predictions

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are to test.

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I'm sorry-- they're
not difficult to test,

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they're difficult to
verify, any of them.

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OK.

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We might not want to say that
it's completely arbitrary.

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I don't know if any of
them would claim that.

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But the way they talk--

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maybe it's partly
in the strength --

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the vehemence-- of
their opposition

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to sociobiology that they
make these strong claims.

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All right.

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Let's talk about
male-female attraction,

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because this is something
that sociobiologists

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have dealt with.

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And they have dealt with it,
as you know, in many animals.

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We talked about
sexual selection.

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We've shown examples of it
from, especially, bird behavior.

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There's a whole program on
WGBH on love and animals,

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and many, many examples,
not just from birds,

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about things males will do
to be chosen by females--

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a little bit on the other
side, although often it's

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more on that than on
the male mate choice.

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I just want you to note
that when we go over this,

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it's not what's fashionable
that matches what men actually

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prefer in a mate.

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And yet, what men
actually prefer

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is the only thing of real
interest to sociobiologists--

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not what they say, not
what modern fashion

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dictates, and so forth.

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There's a very easy
example of that.

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Look at the difference
between women

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that are pictured in
fashion magazines and women

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that are pictured in the
male pinup magazines,

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or whatever you
want to call them.

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Big differences.

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OK.

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Also, we should note that
there are societal differences.

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For example, in the
poorer societies,

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women that are heavier--

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that is, a higher
body mass index,

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and we'll talk about
that in a minute,

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may indicate greater wealth,
and therefore be attractive.

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When I first went
to India, I realized

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that it doesn't apply so much
to the very wealthy in India.

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But if you deal with
the bulk of the people,

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women that are heavier
are often preferred,

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because it indicates that
they must have more resources.

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You think that would
apply even more to men--

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men being heavier.

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But they always talk
about the women.

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All right.

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In Alcock, and we'll
take a look at--

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I didn't actually copy
the table for the slides.

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But many of you
have looked at it.

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You've read this chapter.

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Table 7-1.

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It's on page 138.

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He goes through attributes in
women that men find attractive.

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And what is their meaning?

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What is their signal value?

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What is that property of
a woman's body signal?

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And he says all the
attributes listed

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indicate health, fertility,
sexual maturity, and youth?

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OK?

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They're all, together,
predictors of lifetime

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reproductive potential.

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And you must keep in mind
when you look at these things,

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that there's always a range.

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There's always exceptions
to the general rule.

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Sociobiological hypotheses
are not about "always,"

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and they're not
disproved by "sometimes."

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So this first attribute is
smooth, unblemished skin,

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indicates youthfulness
and good health.

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And he lists-- he gives
references for studies

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of that, that have been done.

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Symmetrical faces and limbs.

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Indicates developmental
stability, good genes,

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good nutritional experience
during development .

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Then one he calls
facial averageness.

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Indicates optimum normal
development and resistance

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to parasites.

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[LAUGHTER]

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Prominent-- you
know, you don't think

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much if you don't have that
much trouble with parasites.

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But it's big problems
for many groups,

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and certainly was
in our evolution.

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Prominent cheekbones.

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Indicates sexual maturity.

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Cheekbones of mature women
are quite different than when

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they were younger.

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Small chin, small nose,
large eyes, full lips.

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Indicates high estrogen
levels during development

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and youthfulness.

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Waste-to-hip ratio of 0.7.

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Indicates current high estrogen
levels, ample fat reserves,

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in good health,
higher probability

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of becoming pregnant, lower
probability of early mortality.

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There have been many studies
of that and arguments about it.

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But the average in
what men prefer always

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comes out to be above 0.7.

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I remember reading one of the
very early studies of that.

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It was done by a
woman from India--

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very nice study, where she
made this whole science

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into a quantitative science.

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Large, firm, symmetrical
breasts indicates

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developmental stability,
youthfulness, and immune system

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competence.

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And a body mass index--

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in this table he says 20
to 24, the preferred range

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is actually 17 to 24.

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Indicates high fertility
and low mortality rates.

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And you notice, that
is a big range--

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17 to 24.

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We'll talk a little more
about this body mass index.

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But right here--

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I pulled a table
out of Wikipedia.

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I'd point out here
at the top, there's

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variability in measures
of the relative importance

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of different factors,
especially in these two--

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body mass index and
the waist-to-hip ratio.

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So we'll talk a little
more about that.

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But these are the
usual classifications--

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from severely underweight,
and underweight to normal,

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and then over.

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And notice the normal
range is pretty big--

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18 and 1/2 to 25.

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How do you compute
your body mass index?

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You might all be curious
what your body mass index is.

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Well, notice it's in
kilograms per meter squared--

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meter of height.

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OK.

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So you have to convert your
weight in pounds to kilograms

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to get this measure.

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And you convert your
height to meters.

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And then you come out
with these numbers.

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And most of you, I'm sure,
will fall in this range.

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You can have to 25.

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And yes, I'm not underweight.

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I'm actually in this range.

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I'm at the low end.

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[LAUGHTER]

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OK.

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And then, notice
all these categories

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for being overweight.

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Overweight, obese class
one, obese class two,

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severely obese, morbidly obese,
super obese, and hyper obese.

00:22:08.283 --> 00:22:09.700 align:middle line:84%
And notice, these
are the weights.

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Someone that's 5'
11", 1.8 meters.

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OK, so if they're 5' 11"--

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very tall woman, average man--

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these are the weights
they have to be

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to have that body mass index.

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And the males always prefer, as
I pointed out before, 17 to 24.

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So they prefer women to
be from at the top end

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of the underweight range
to near the top of normal.

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So then he cites this
British study, 1998,

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of preferences shown by
British male undergraduates.

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This is the title.

00:23:08.140 --> 00:23:11.570 align:middle line:84%
Optimum Body Mass Index and
Maximum Sexual Attractiveness.

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And they claim-- and this
shows you the controversy--

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because there have been many
studies of waist-to-hip ratio

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as the big factor
for attractiveness.

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They found that the BMI
was a much better predictor

00:23:28.675 --> 00:23:31.760 align:middle line:84%
than the waist-to-hip
ratio, even

00:23:31.760 --> 00:23:34.820 align:middle line:84%
though other studies haven't
shown such a difference.

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In fact, the ratio has
often been reported

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to be the most important.

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So I'm going to go through one
of those interesting studies

00:23:43.360 --> 00:23:45.260 align:middle line:90%
next.

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I think there's
plenty of evidence

00:23:47.360 --> 00:23:49.770 align:middle line:90%
that both factors are important.

00:23:49.770 --> 00:23:54.120 align:middle line:84%
But in their study,
the range was 17 to 24.

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And I point out
the numbers there

00:23:58.590 --> 00:24:02.950 align:middle line:90%
for both those type of values.

00:24:02.950 --> 00:24:06.000 align:middle line:90%
But there are exceptions.

00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:14.350 align:middle line:84%
And one is the group of
Yomibato, South American tribe.

00:24:14.350 --> 00:24:16.930 align:middle line:84%
It was found that they
tend to prefer females

00:24:16.930 --> 00:24:18.865 align:middle line:90%
with a figure that's heavier--

00:24:18.865 --> 00:24:25.200 align:middle line:84%
with a larger waist-to-hip ratio
than what is preferred by most

00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:32.010 align:middle line:84%
men in what we call
advanced cultures--

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advanced technically,
educationally, so forth.

00:24:37.550 --> 00:24:41.610 align:middle line:90%
And I didn't bring the pictures.

00:24:41.610 --> 00:24:45.500 align:middle line:84%
They show silhouettes
of the kind of women.

00:24:45.500 --> 00:24:47.480 align:middle line:84%
Basically these men
in the test were

00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:53.110 align:middle line:84%
shown little drawings of
women, mostly front view,

00:24:53.110 --> 00:24:54.530 align:middle line:90%
so you can see their shape.

00:24:54.530 --> 00:24:57.500 align:middle line:84%
And they chose the
slightly heavier

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than what people in the
USA or Europe would choose.

00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:04.700 align:middle line:90%
So he suggests--

00:25:04.700 --> 00:25:06.650 align:middle line:84%
I think his argument
is a little bit fuzzy,

00:25:06.650 --> 00:25:08.775 align:middle line:90%
and it hasn't been fully tested.

00:25:08.775 --> 00:25:12.980 align:middle line:84%
But he points out
that obesity was

00:25:12.980 --> 00:25:17.650 align:middle line:84%
all but impossible in
pre-colonial Amerindian groups.

00:25:17.650 --> 00:25:20.403 align:middle line:84%
These were American and American
Indian groups in South America.

00:25:20.403 --> 00:25:23.190 align:middle line:90%


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Being underweight was
probably more common.

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And if a woman was
slightly overweight,

00:25:28.540 --> 00:25:31.040 align:middle line:84%
he suggests that there
was a greater probability

00:25:31.040 --> 00:25:34.320 align:middle line:90%
of her being fertile.

00:25:34.320 --> 00:25:36.170 align:middle line:84%
And also the
probability would be

00:25:36.170 --> 00:25:39.040 align:middle line:84%
greater that she doesn't have
a problem with parasites,

00:25:39.040 --> 00:25:45.800 align:middle line:84%
which are common down in
there, with their living style.

00:25:45.800 --> 00:25:48.850 align:middle line:84%
And, of course, that suggestion
should apply to other groups.

00:25:48.850 --> 00:25:50.035 align:middle line:90%
That should be more tested.

00:25:50.035 --> 00:25:56.570 align:middle line:90%


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And it should at least be
true for groups that have been

00:25:59.030 --> 00:26:00.580 align:middle line:90%
isolated from modern societies.

00:26:00.580 --> 00:26:04.670 align:middle line:90%


00:26:04.670 --> 00:26:06.030 align:middle line:90%
We don't know.

00:26:06.030 --> 00:26:07.870 align:middle line:90%
He's probably right about this.

00:26:07.870 --> 00:26:11.890 align:middle line:84%
But, you know, you need to
test any of these ideas.

00:26:11.890 --> 00:26:13.940 align:middle line:84%
But you could also
just say, well, OK,

00:26:13.940 --> 00:26:19.010 align:middle line:84%
one exception doesn't
disprove the general finding.

00:26:19.010 --> 00:26:20.440 align:middle line:84%
And even though
that's true, when

00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:23.313 align:middle line:84%
you get a consistent finding
like that in one society,

00:26:23.313 --> 00:26:24.730 align:middle line:84%
there's got be
some reason for it.

00:26:24.730 --> 00:26:29.350 align:middle line:84%
And so it's worthy of
more investigation.

00:26:29.350 --> 00:26:32.290 align:middle line:84%
But not just with the Yomibato,
but with other groups where

00:26:32.290 --> 00:26:33.835 align:middle line:90%
similar conditions apply.

00:26:33.835 --> 00:26:37.410 align:middle line:90%


00:26:37.410 --> 00:26:43.060 align:middle line:84%
OK, now this is a study
where they paid attention

00:26:43.060 --> 00:26:45.900 align:middle line:90%
to both of these measures.

00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:47.040 align:middle line:90%
This is the article.

00:26:47.040 --> 00:26:50.110 align:middle line:84%
Male Preferences for
Female Waist-to-Hip Ratio

00:26:50.110 --> 00:26:53.800 align:middle line:84%
and Body Mass Index in the
Highlands of Papua New Guinea.

00:26:53.800 --> 00:26:58.830 align:middle line:90%


00:26:58.830 --> 00:27:01.400 align:middle line:84%
It was published in the
American Journal of Physical

00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:03.510 align:middle line:90%
Anthropology a few years ago.

00:27:03.510 --> 00:27:08.220 align:middle line:90%


00:27:08.220 --> 00:27:14.060 align:middle line:84%
They were using 100 men in three
villages in this remote region.

00:27:14.060 --> 00:27:16.270 align:middle line:84%
They were asked to
judge attractiveness

00:27:16.270 --> 00:27:21.440 align:middle line:84%
of women who had undergone
micrograph surgery to reduce

00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.350 align:middle line:90%
their waste-to-hip ratio.

00:27:23.350 --> 00:27:25.480 align:middle line:84%
They had undergone a
kind of plastic surgery.

00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.410 align:middle line:90%


00:27:28.410 --> 00:27:32.060 align:middle line:84%
So what they do is, they
take the fatty tissue,

00:27:32.060 --> 00:27:34.710 align:middle line:84%
the adipose tissue,
from the waist,

00:27:34.710 --> 00:27:36.700 align:middle line:84%
and reshape the
buttocks with it.

00:27:36.700 --> 00:27:40.220 align:middle line:84%
So the weight-- the average
weight, anyway-- of these women

00:27:40.220 --> 00:27:42.740 align:middle line:90%
doesn't change much.

00:27:42.740 --> 00:27:43.785 align:middle line:90%
But their shape changes.

00:27:43.785 --> 00:27:46.570 align:middle line:90%


00:27:46.570 --> 00:27:48.880 align:middle line:84%
They get more of an
hour-glass figure.

00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.610 align:middle line:84%
And the men consistently chose
post-operative photographs

00:27:52.610 --> 00:27:56.370 align:middle line:84%
as being more attractive than
pre-operative photographs

00:27:56.370 --> 00:27:57.160 align:middle line:90%
of the same women.

00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:00.030 align:middle line:90%


00:28:00.030 --> 00:28:01.980 align:middle line:84%
And it didn't seem
to be the body mass

00:28:01.980 --> 00:28:03.270 align:middle line:90%
index that made a difference.

00:28:03.270 --> 00:28:06.980 align:middle line:84%
These are the actual
numbers from the study.

00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:11.650 align:middle line:90%
And they did it twice.

00:28:11.650 --> 00:28:17.110 align:middle line:84%
These are the two groups of
women undergoing the surgery.

00:28:17.110 --> 00:28:22.955 align:middle line:84%
This gives the
patients' ethnicity.

00:28:22.955 --> 00:28:24.740 align:middle line:90%
And you can see that varied.

00:28:24.740 --> 00:28:28.410 align:middle line:90%


00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:35.800 align:middle line:84%
And in this group, you
can see that the body mass

00:28:35.800 --> 00:28:36.685 align:middle line:90%
index was not--

00:28:36.685 --> 00:28:41.233 align:middle line:90%


00:28:41.233 --> 00:28:42.900 align:middle line:84%
one group actually
went up a little bit,

00:28:42.900 --> 00:28:45.150 align:middle line:84%
the other group went down a
little bit-- the body mass

00:28:45.150 --> 00:28:45.940 align:middle line:90%
index.

00:28:45.940 --> 00:28:48.450 align:middle line:84%
But the waist- to-hip
ratios that you can see,

00:28:48.450 --> 00:28:51.293 align:middle line:90%
were consistently reduced.

00:28:51.293 --> 00:28:59.520 align:middle line:90%


00:28:59.520 --> 00:29:00.020 align:middle line:90%
All right.

00:29:00.020 --> 00:29:03.170 align:middle line:90%
So that was the data they had.

00:29:03.170 --> 00:29:05.720 align:middle line:84%
And the men were
tested on photographs.

00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:07.760 align:middle line:84%
These are the nature
of the photographs.

00:29:07.760 --> 00:29:09.740 align:middle line:90%
So here's pre-op.

00:29:09.740 --> 00:29:12.080 align:middle line:90%
Here's post-op.

00:29:12.080 --> 00:29:15.590 align:middle line:90%
And this is the oblique view--

00:29:15.590 --> 00:29:16.850 align:middle line:90%
pre-op and post-op.

00:29:16.850 --> 00:29:19.295 align:middle line:84%
So it shows what the
surgeons were doing.

00:29:19.295 --> 00:29:20.545 align:middle line:90%
And these are the preferences.

00:29:20.545 --> 00:29:23.130 align:middle line:90%


00:29:23.130 --> 00:29:27.160 align:middle line:84%
Much greater preference
for the post-operative--

00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:31.310 align:middle line:90%
similarly for that view.

00:29:31.310 --> 00:29:33.820 align:middle line:84%
So that was one study
that, because they were

00:29:33.820 --> 00:29:35.940 align:middle line:90%
the very same women involved--

00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:39.500 align:middle line:84%
the only thing that was
changing in an obvious way

00:29:39.500 --> 00:29:43.970 align:middle line:84%
was simply that
shape that affected

00:29:43.970 --> 00:29:46.090 align:middle line:90%
their waste-to-hip ratio.

00:29:46.090 --> 00:29:50.063 align:middle line:84%
The body mass index,
when it did go down,

00:29:50.063 --> 00:29:51.480 align:middle line:84%
didn't seem to
make any difference

00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:52.780 align:middle line:90%
in that particular study.

00:29:52.780 --> 00:29:56.770 align:middle line:90%


00:29:56.770 --> 00:30:00.520 align:middle line:84%
So what about preferences shown
by females choosing mates.

00:30:00.520 --> 00:30:02.330 align:middle line:90%
This has been studied also.

00:30:02.330 --> 00:30:09.040 align:middle line:84%
And as we know from when we were
talking about Scott's chapters,

00:30:09.040 --> 00:30:11.450 align:middle line:84%
that females tend to
make their decisions

00:30:11.450 --> 00:30:12.870 align:middle line:90%
by different kinds of means.

00:30:12.870 --> 00:30:16.000 align:middle line:90%


00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:18.615 align:middle line:84%
It doesn't mean that physical
attractiveness does not

00:30:18.615 --> 00:30:19.490 align:middle line:90%
make some difference.

00:30:19.490 --> 00:30:22.710 align:middle line:84%
But it is often not nearly
as important for women

00:30:22.710 --> 00:30:24.760 align:middle line:90%
as it is for a man.

00:30:24.760 --> 00:30:26.830 align:middle line:84%
And there's reasons--
evolutionary reasons--

00:30:26.830 --> 00:30:27.800 align:middle line:90%
for that.

00:30:27.800 --> 00:30:31.375 align:middle line:90%
Women prefer resource potential.

00:30:31.375 --> 00:30:34.010 align:middle line:90%


00:30:34.010 --> 00:30:36.140 align:middle line:84%
And so you'd predict
that, well, they

00:30:36.140 --> 00:30:38.457 align:middle line:84%
might prefer slightly
older men, more likely

00:30:38.457 --> 00:30:40.165 align:middle line:90%
to have more resources.

00:30:40.165 --> 00:30:42.875 align:middle line:90%


00:30:42.875 --> 00:30:49.150 align:middle line:84%
They are more likely to prefer
rich men, and so forth--

00:30:49.150 --> 00:30:51.820 align:middle line:90%
men with property.

00:30:51.820 --> 00:30:54.602 align:middle line:84%
Most men at the age when
these choices are made

00:30:54.602 --> 00:30:56.435 align:middle line:84%
don't actually have
property in our society.

00:30:56.435 --> 00:30:59.180 align:middle line:90%


00:30:59.180 --> 00:31:01.960 align:middle line:84%
But anyway, that's how I
would expect them to differ.

00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:10.780 align:middle line:84%
And if you look at the
term "maximum reproductive

00:31:10.780 --> 00:31:13.940 align:middle line:84%
potential," it just
has a different meaning

00:31:13.940 --> 00:31:15.820 align:middle line:90%
for women and men.

00:31:15.820 --> 00:31:18.535 align:middle line:84%
And this is the difference
in age preferences--

00:31:18.535 --> 00:31:21.200 align:middle line:90%


00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.650 align:middle line:90%
the mean age.

00:31:22.650 --> 00:31:24.015 align:middle line:90%
This is the age difference--

00:31:24.015 --> 00:31:27.310 align:middle line:90%


00:31:27.310 --> 00:31:30.380 align:middle line:90%
male greater than female.

00:31:30.380 --> 00:31:33.090 align:middle line:84%
It's only these to the
left of that vertical line

00:31:33.090 --> 00:31:37.480 align:middle line:84%
there, where in
actual marriages,

00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.210 align:middle line:84%
the male is younger
than the female.

00:31:41.210 --> 00:31:43.700 align:middle line:84%
These are all the ones
where the male is older.

00:31:43.700 --> 00:31:48.850 align:middle line:84%
And note that the peak
is roughly three years.

00:31:48.850 --> 00:31:51.410 align:middle line:84%
That's a consistent
finding in these studies.

00:31:51.410 --> 00:31:53.640 align:middle line:90%
But notice also a huge range.

00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.220 align:middle line:90%


00:31:57.220 --> 00:31:59.130 align:middle line:90%
It goes up, of course.

00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:02.230 align:middle line:84%
Some women will
marry a man that's

00:32:02.230 --> 00:32:03.630 align:middle line:90%
more than twice their age.

00:32:03.630 --> 00:32:06.490 align:middle line:84%
And this does occur, so
all that kind of data

00:32:06.490 --> 00:32:08.870 align:middle line:90%
is on this type of curve.

00:32:08.870 --> 00:32:13.970 align:middle line:84%
But you can see, it's a
small, small percentage there.

00:32:13.970 --> 00:32:17.540 align:middle line:84%
So it's explained--
it's predicted--

00:32:17.540 --> 00:32:21.310 align:middle line:84%
by this expectation that
women are looking more

00:32:21.310 --> 00:32:25.500 align:middle line:84%
for potential or
actual resources.

00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:26.030 align:middle line:90%
All right.

00:32:26.030 --> 00:32:29.130 align:middle line:90%


00:32:29.130 --> 00:32:36.470 align:middle line:84%
Humans also have this tendency
to stay and act within groups.

00:32:36.470 --> 00:32:38.660 align:middle line:84%
And different groups may
compete with each other,

00:32:38.660 --> 00:32:39.525 align:middle line:90%
sometimes violently.

00:32:39.525 --> 00:32:45.330 align:middle line:90%


00:32:45.330 --> 00:32:49.250 align:middle line:84%
Remember the story
of Romeo and Juliet.

00:32:49.250 --> 00:32:57.500 align:middle line:84%
So I want to try to specify a
list of evolutionary fitness

00:32:57.500 --> 00:33:01.320 align:middle line:84%
benefits of these
groupism feelings.

00:33:01.320 --> 00:33:04.270 align:middle line:90%
Why do we like to measure--

00:33:04.270 --> 00:33:07.220 align:middle line:84%
to choose someone
within our group--

00:33:07.220 --> 00:33:09.960 align:middle line:84%
especially if you think
of earlier society

00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.090 align:middle line:90%
during our evolution.

00:33:12.090 --> 00:33:13.090 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:33:13.090 --> 00:33:16.530 align:middle line:84%
And these are the things
I could come up with.

00:33:16.530 --> 00:33:18.796 align:middle line:84%
Higher probability
of finding a mate.

00:33:18.796 --> 00:33:21.320 align:middle line:90%


00:33:21.320 --> 00:33:26.380 align:middle line:84%
Higher probability of
rescue and survival

00:33:26.380 --> 00:33:29.630 align:middle line:90%
if you stay within that group.

00:33:29.630 --> 00:33:34.060 align:middle line:84%
Higher probability of better
defense against predators.

00:33:34.060 --> 00:33:35.050 align:middle line:90%
If there's a predator--

00:33:35.050 --> 00:33:40.360 align:middle line:84%
people in the same group get
together, help each other--

00:33:40.360 --> 00:33:44.480 align:middle line:84%
not as likely to
help the outsider.

00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.950 align:middle line:84%
Higher probability
of a better defense

00:33:46.950 --> 00:33:50.840 align:middle line:90%
against hostile human groups.

00:33:50.840 --> 00:33:55.790 align:middle line:84%
Advantages in food acquisition,
gathering, hunting, sharing

00:33:55.790 --> 00:33:57.330 align:middle line:90%
and specialization.

00:33:57.330 --> 00:33:59.880 align:middle line:84%
These are all advantages
of being in a group.

00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:02.090 align:middle line:84%
Help in child-rearing
and education.

00:34:02.090 --> 00:34:05.330 align:middle line:90%


00:34:05.330 --> 00:34:08.650 align:middle line:84%
And advantages in learning from
older, more experienced group

00:34:08.650 --> 00:34:10.960 align:middle line:90%
members.

00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.608 align:middle line:84%
It's much easier within
your group than for someone

00:34:14.608 --> 00:34:15.400 align:middle line:90%
from another group.

00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.250 align:middle line:90%


00:34:18.250 --> 00:34:20.780 align:middle line:84%
Of course, now we've
formalized education so much.

00:34:20.780 --> 00:34:23.854 align:middle line:84%
We cross these
boundaries all the time.

00:34:23.854 --> 00:34:29.239 align:middle line:84%
At least during our
evolution, these probably all

00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.510 align:middle line:90%
would be true--

00:34:31.510 --> 00:34:34.400 align:middle line:84%
which would simply
explain why we've evolved

00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:35.525 align:middle line:90%
these kinds of feelings.

00:34:35.525 --> 00:34:39.580 align:middle line:90%


00:34:39.580 --> 00:34:40.080 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:34:40.080 --> 00:34:46.929 align:middle line:84%
Then we get to his
appendix questions

00:34:46.929 --> 00:34:52.330 align:middle line:84%
about the biological basis
for reciprocity among humans.

00:34:52.330 --> 00:34:53.735 align:middle line:84%
The claim is it
remains unproven.

00:34:53.735 --> 00:34:57.200 align:middle line:90%


00:34:57.200 --> 00:35:00.350 align:middle line:84%
Here the statement is
that general self interest

00:35:00.350 --> 00:35:02.750 align:middle line:84%
and an ability to see
beyond the short term,

00:35:02.750 --> 00:35:06.170 align:middle line:84%
may be all that's required
to generate such behavior.

00:35:06.170 --> 00:35:09.590 align:middle line:84%
So what's the misunderstanding
in that kind of statement?

00:35:09.590 --> 00:35:11.090 align:middle line:90%
It's very simple.

00:35:11.090 --> 00:35:15.410 align:middle line:84%
They confuse proximate
and ultimate issues.

00:35:15.410 --> 00:35:19.530 align:middle line:84%
As we know from before, you
have to deal with those things

00:35:19.530 --> 00:35:20.500 align:middle line:90%
separately.

00:35:20.500 --> 00:35:23.940 align:middle line:84%
Understand that they're
separate kinds of issues.

00:35:23.940 --> 00:35:28.860 align:middle line:90%


00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:30.680 align:middle line:84%
What about the
idea of languages?

00:35:30.680 --> 00:35:33.420 align:middle line:84%
Languages vary greatly
among human societies.

00:35:33.420 --> 00:35:35.690 align:middle line:84%
So if someone claims
that this fact clearly

00:35:35.690 --> 00:35:38.260 align:middle line:84%
demonstrates the greater
importance of culture

00:35:38.260 --> 00:35:40.910 align:middle line:84%
than biology in the
control of human behavior,

00:35:40.910 --> 00:35:43.740 align:middle line:84%
how does a sociobiologist
deal with that?

00:35:43.740 --> 00:35:45.610 align:middle line:90%
Very simply.

00:35:45.610 --> 00:35:49.390 align:middle line:84%
The important issue is
language versus no language,

00:35:49.390 --> 00:35:52.390 align:middle line:84%
not the details of a
particular language.

00:35:52.390 --> 00:35:55.110 align:middle line:84%
That's where Chomsky made
a great contribution,

00:35:55.110 --> 00:36:01.880 align:middle line:84%
pointing out the form of grammar
that's the same in one language

00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:03.200 align:middle line:90%
after another after another.

00:36:03.200 --> 00:36:08.860 align:middle line:90%


00:36:08.860 --> 00:36:13.010 align:middle line:84%
So we're born with an innate
ability to learn any language.

00:36:13.010 --> 00:36:14.400 align:middle line:90%
That's what we inherit.

00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:19.380 align:middle line:90%


00:36:19.380 --> 00:36:25.770 align:middle line:84%
And here's one of Stephen
Jay Gould's statements.

00:36:25.770 --> 00:36:29.090 align:middle line:84%
"Men are not programmed by
genes to maximize matings,

00:36:29.090 --> 00:36:34.110 align:middle line:84%
nor are women devoted to
monogamy by inalterable nature.

00:36:34.110 --> 00:36:37.870 align:middle line:84%
We can speak only of capacities,
not requirements or even

00:36:37.870 --> 00:36:40.050 align:middle line:90%
determining propensities.

00:36:40.050 --> 00:36:44.540 align:middle line:84%
Therefore, our biology
does not make us do it."

00:36:44.540 --> 00:36:46.100 align:middle line:84%
So how do you deal
with that kind

00:36:46.100 --> 00:36:47.450 align:middle line:90%
of criticism of sociobiology?

00:36:47.450 --> 00:36:53.520 align:middle line:90%


00:36:53.520 --> 00:36:55.640 align:middle line:84%
He's pitting culture
against biology.

00:36:55.640 --> 00:36:57.380 align:middle line:90%
Culture versus biology.

00:36:57.380 --> 00:37:02.570 align:middle line:84%
It's not an either/or
matter at all.

00:37:02.570 --> 00:37:04.710 align:middle line:84%
As we pointed out, both
are always involved.

00:37:04.710 --> 00:37:15.120 align:middle line:90%


00:37:15.120 --> 00:37:17.800 align:middle line:90%
OK, now this is interesting.

00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.340 align:middle line:90%
This is a critique of Alcock.

00:37:20.340 --> 00:37:22.260 align:middle line:84%
In the final paragraph
of chapter seven,

00:37:22.260 --> 00:37:25.570 align:middle line:84%
he sums up his conclusions
about the unlikely philosophy

00:37:25.570 --> 00:37:29.570 align:middle line:84%
that Gould, Mead and many social
scientists and some feminists

00:37:29.570 --> 00:37:33.690 align:middle line:84%
would have us accept, largely
on ideological grounds.

00:37:33.690 --> 00:37:35.860 align:middle line:84%
But then he suddenly
shifts the argument.

00:37:35.860 --> 00:37:38.930 align:middle line:90%
And listen to what he says.

00:37:38.930 --> 00:37:41.970 align:middle line:84%
"That this position has
any residual credibility

00:37:41.970 --> 00:37:45.660 align:middle line:84%
can be attributed largely to
the power of wishful thinking

00:37:45.660 --> 00:37:50.430 align:middle line:84%
that some special meaning
accrues to human existence."

00:37:50.430 --> 00:37:52.210 align:middle line:90%
And this is a quote now.

00:37:52.210 --> 00:37:55.880 align:middle line:84%
"It is not easy to accept that
evolution is a meaningless tale

00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.830 align:middle line:90%
told by an idiot."

00:37:57.830 --> 00:37:59.530 align:middle line:90%
His conclusion is then stated.

00:37:59.530 --> 00:38:01.860 align:middle line:84%
"Indeed most people
find it hard to believe

00:38:01.860 --> 00:38:05.570 align:middle line:84%
the blind evolutionary
processes have created

00:38:05.570 --> 00:38:07.850 align:middle line:84%
us, a creature whose
unconscious ultimate

00:38:07.850 --> 00:38:10.710 align:middle line:84%
goal is no different
from that of the slime

00:38:10.710 --> 00:38:14.630 align:middle line:84%
mold, the aardvark, the pine
tree, and the earthworm.

00:38:14.630 --> 00:38:19.780 align:middle line:84%
Although this point is
evidently unpalatable,

00:38:19.780 --> 00:38:22.670 align:middle line:90%
it is true nevertheless."

00:38:22.670 --> 00:38:26.330 align:middle line:84%
So my criticism of
Alcock here is just

00:38:26.330 --> 00:38:28.850 align:middle line:84%
his very narrow
definition of what

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you mean by an ultimate goal.

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There's the ultimate reason
we evolved this way--

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certainly this very simple rule
of maximizing genetic fitness.

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So is it really a meaningless
tale told by an idiot?

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In my view, what is really
incredible and amazing

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is that the simple and repeated
process of genetic spread

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and change, following
the biological law

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of natural selection, has
led to such complex creatures

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with such cognitive capacities,
and with such an ability

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to ponder the nature of
the world and its beings.

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And beyond that, I would
add that conscious beings--

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the sociobiologist,
the evolutionist,

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they have no explanation
for even the existence

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of consciousness.

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It's outside their realm,
as I pointed out before.

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OK, here's a final topic.

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We have four minutes.

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Romantic love.

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Is the phenomenon
of romantic love--

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the falling-in-love experience--

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an invention of
medieval court life,

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as has been repeatedly
asserted in literature?

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And it's a very popular belief
after it was first proposed.

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Does it only occur
in certain cultures?

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So I want to state a
sociobiological hypothesis

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concerning its origins.

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Because you're working
on another homework,

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on your topics, I'm not going
to give this as a homework.

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I'm going to give you
what I would say about it.

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First of all, I would say
that the idea was invented

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by people who could not accept
the role of innate motivations

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in humans at all.

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And there are many
people like that.

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OK.

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Does it occur only
in certain cultures?

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It appears to occur in all
cultures to some degree.

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And there are many cultures
that have marriages

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that are made by the--
basically all the decisions are

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by the parents
and the relatives.

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But even in those cultures,
they end up having to separate--

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well, this was an
arranged marriage

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and that is a love marriage.

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They separate them.

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And you find that in
all these cultures,

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because falling in
love still happens.

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Fortunately, in societies
where the marriages are decided

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by parents, they often work
out better than marriages here,

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where the rate of divorce
is now greater than 50%.

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But let's state a
sociobiological hypothesis

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about the origins
of that feeling.

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It's clearly instinctive.

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If you haven't
experienced it, you

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will realize when it does
occur, that it's an innate--

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something's happening to you.

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Does it occur only
in young people?

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No.

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Are prominent leaders
in the community exempt?

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There's plenty of examples in
the news where that's not true.

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If it has evolved as a
human fixed-action pattern,

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it's got to be adaptive in
a sociobiological sense.

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Like many evolved tendencies,
it can produce conflicts,

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not only in the society
but within the individual.

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And this can cause what we
call cognitive dissonance which

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the individual will
struggle to resolve

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in one way or the other.

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So consider why it
must have had to evolve

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in early human groups.

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Think of the close
bonds acquired

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in growing up in
an extended family,

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within which there were very
bad consequences of inbreeding.

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It was necessary
for genetic fitness

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to have a motivation that
could occur in strength

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after sexual maturity--

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strong enough to
cause a young person

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to leave his natal group.

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And the result was
what they often

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call "roaming in
search of a mate"--

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a very common tradition.

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Usually the male-- but
not always just the male--

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will go off in search of a mate.

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He leaves home till he finds
a woman he can fall for.

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You also have secret
liaisons, eloping,

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all the other characteristics of
the falling-in-love phenomena,

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including behaving
stupidly, irrationally,

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disregarding long-established
habits, and everything.

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It has a biological reason.

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And then I'll let
you just read these.

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I've put a few summaries
of recent research,

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and they're very easy to find.