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ATUL J. BUTTE: So I can
and have in the past

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talked for about 6
hours on this subject.

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Today, we're just going to
talk about the first of these,

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microbiology for the
[? bioinformaticist. ?]

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And if we have time, then we
can talk about gene measurement

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techniques, not
just microarrays,

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but all sorts of
different technologies

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depending on how
fast or slow we go.

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So let's just get started then.

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So I have about 10 slides
of basic biology, OK?

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If I see you start to yawn,
then we'll just go faster.

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There's a lot that we can cover.

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So how many of you remember
this kind of thing?

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Do you remember this?

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Do you remember this?

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Do you remember this?

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OK, so we can go pretty fast.

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So obviously, the key
problem in biology

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or in all of life
science is that organisms

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need to produce proteins for
a variety of different things

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that they need to do
over their lifetime.

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So the goal is proteins,
but the organisms

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have to make the same
proteins again and again

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in a very set
pattern type of way.

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Some of these proteins
are important.

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They're enzymes that
catalyze reactions.

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These reactions would otherwise
take 10,000 years to complete.

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Because you have the
enzyme [INAUDIBLE],,

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it can take 10,000
microseconds instead.

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Structural support--
otherwise, a bag of water

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would just collapse.

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These are things that are going
to hold the cell wall together,

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to give it some shape.

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And certainly, we have
hormones to signal

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from one part of an organism
to another part of the organism

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or for one organism
to another organism.

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So the key problem in life
science over the past 50 years

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is how to encode
the instructions

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for making these specific
proteins because they

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have so many disparate
shapes, disparate lengths,

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characteristics.

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How does the organism
know or how do the cells

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know how to make these proteins?

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And the first step is
obviously nucleotides.

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That's the most basic element
of these blueprints that

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goes into making the proteins.

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So have adenine, cytosine,
guanine, and thymine, H, C, G,

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T. And as we all know,
50 years ago we've

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learned that these were actually
arranged in a chain, actually

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two anti-parallel chains where
the As base pair with a Ts

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and the Cs go along with the Gs.

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And these are not
just arbitrary chains,

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but these are chains
with polarity.

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So you have a start and
an end to one chain.

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It's lined up with the start
and the end to the other chain.

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And this is the double helix.

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This naturally
forms a double helix

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if you melt this to
the right temperature.

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If you heat the DNA,
it starts to denature.

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But if you cool it
again, it'll start

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to come back together again.

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It'll re-nature.

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So it's a natural
formation depending

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on the temperature
of the bonds here,

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the temperature needed
to break these bonds.

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And so you get an idea of
what this double helix looks

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like here.

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So now, let's take a step back.

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We have the DNA.

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We know that's going
to be the end point,

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but we haven't had to
even sequence the As,

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Gs, and Ts, and Cs to make
genomic or genetic diagnoses.

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So even for the past
more than 50 years,

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we've been able to
make genetic diagnoses

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even before sequencing
was invented.

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How?

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Well, obviously,
you can actually

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look at the
chromosome structure.

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So you can get a blood
sample from any human,

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isolate the white blood
cells, which still has DNA,

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and stain them in
a particular way,

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take a photograph, a
photomicrograph of that,

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cut out the chromosomes,
and line them up.

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And so people have been
doing this for decades,

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more than half a century.

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And basically, these
chromosomes have

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been numbered based on the
original estimates of the size

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of these chromosomes.

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So chromosome 1 is
thought to be the biggest.

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Chromosome 22 is thought
to be the smallest,

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but it turns out that 21 is
actually smaller than 22.

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And there's a couple other
missed pairings like this now

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that we have the exact length.

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But this is how we've been
able to make genetic diagnoses.

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Each chromosome,
so each chromosome

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is a single double strand
of DNA from end to end.

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And obviously, it's wound
and coiled and rewound

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and recoiled in such a degree
that this looks nothing

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like a double helix only because
we're at a big picture here.

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We're at least five
orders of magnitude

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up in terms of
magnification from actually

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visualizing a double helix.

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Now, like I said, we've
been able to make diagnoses

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for more than 50 years using--

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come on in-- in genomics.

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Anyone want to guess
what this diagnosis is?

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Let's keep this
interactive here.

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

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ATUL J. BUTTE: This is Down
syndrome or trisomy 21.

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So you can see, obviously,
it's highlight here

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with the little arrow.

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But there's three copies
of chromosome 21 here.

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And that happens to
be a viable phenotype.

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You can born with this.

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And you can actually
live for quite some time,

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though you have marked
phenotypic problems

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or phenotypic issues.

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You can live with that.

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This is trisomy 21.

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There's two other
chromosomes that you

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can have an entire trisomy
of and still survive

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one way or another.

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Now, we have 22 pairs
of chromosomes here.

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AUDIENCE: Interruption.

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ATUL J. BUTTE: Yes.

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AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] question.

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Explain the following fact.

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So this [INAUDIBLE].

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How come with
exception of testicular

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cancer Down syndrome
people don't get cancer?

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ATUL J. BUTTE: OK.

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AUDIENCE: Look at the
genes, figure it out.

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[INAUDIBLE] who
don't get cancer.

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ATUL J. BUTTE: So
like I was saying,

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we have 22 pairs of chromosomes
that are ideally paired,

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although we can get
trisomies rarely.

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We also have a pair
of sex chromosomes.

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Either you have two Xs
or you have an X and a Y.

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And those are the
normal conditions.

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There are abnormal
conditions as well,

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but these are the
sex chromosomes here.

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Most of the Y pairs
with a piece of the X,

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but the Y has some
unique material.

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And the X certainly has
a lot of unique material

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that doesn't pair at all.

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There's some very
important things on the Y,

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for example, a piece of
the androgen receptor

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and things like that.

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The coding for that is
on the Y chromosome.

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So this is what an actual
photograph looks like.

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And this is the idealized
version of this ideogram.

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The bands essentially
are actually

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quite specific with
a particular stain.

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When a particular
stain is applied,

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when you apply
different stains, you

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get different banding patterns.

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And it turns out
these bands actually

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have a lot to do
with the base pair

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composition of those regions.

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For example, GC-rich, or regions
that have a lot of Gs and Cs,

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will turn out to be one color
versus the As and the Ts.

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So now, we've seen the big
picture from the chromosome.

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We started with the DNA
and the nucleotides.

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And we've already covered
the double helices.

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So just as an introduction,
I got only 10 slides

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of basic biology
refresher, and then we'll

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get to some interesting stuff.

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So how do we get from the
DNA to the genes, right?

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Because even though we have 3.5
billion base pairs, only 1.5%

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of that codes for the proteins.

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We said the proteins
were the final goal.

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And out of the 3.5 billion
base pairs, only 1 and 1/2%

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actually are in a
coding region per se.

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So let's talk about what we
call a coding region exactly.

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This line here,
this red line here,

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represents the double helix.

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That represents the
As, Cs, Ts, and Gs.

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And the structure of a gene is
such that there's a piece here,

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which is going to serve as
our blueprint for the protein

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called an open reading frame.

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It's got a start initiation.

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It's got an end
or a termination.

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And this piece of that is going
to be spliced in and spliced

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out as part of this blueprint.

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And we'll talk about the
splicing in a second.

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The piece of the double helix
that's upstream or before this,

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towards the 5 prime end,
it's called upstream.

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And the piece of
the double helix

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that's after this
termination codon,

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it's called downstream
when it's on 3 prime end.

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Now, here's the
most crucial point.

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We all love diagramming
these things like this,

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but there is no
punctuation in the genome.

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There's no highlighter.

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There's no caps lowercase.

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There's no italics bold.

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All you have are
the letters, right?

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So one of the
hardest problems is

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trying to figure out this
structure from the letters

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because there's no flashing
arrow that says, here is

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where the gene begins.

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All you have are the
As, Ts, Gs, and Cs.

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And it's only informatics that
actually deciphers this, OK?

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So we have algorithms that
people use commonly now that

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have been trained on manual
experiments and the results

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of where this gene began
and that gene began.

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They learn the patterns.

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They code it into algorithms,
and the algorithms

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run on the entire genome
to try to make predictions.

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But in the end, they're
still only predictions

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of where these genes are, and
they're still commonly wrong.

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So each gene, a gene,
encodes instructions

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to make a single protein.

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The DNA is called,
before, is upstream.

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And a lot of the regulatory
elements for this gene

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are actually in the
upstream component.

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So let's say more than they are
in the downstream component.

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Regarding the splicing,
imagine if an architect made

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a series of blueprints,
but the architect said,

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well, if you don't want
the Jacuzzi in your house,

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you can take this page out.

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If you only want a one car
garage instead of a two car

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garage, you could
take this page out.

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That's what the splicing is.

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You start with a
whole set of what

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could be in the plans and
pieces could be taken out

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or pieces could be left in.

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That's what the exons
and introns can serve as.

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The introns get spliced out.

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They can be thrown out.

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And exons remain
to actually be part

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of the blueprint,
which we'll talk about

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in the next few slides.

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Different tissues may splice
in and out different components

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here.

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It's not always the case.

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Even though I'm drawing
it here as exon, intron,

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exon, in a different
part of the same organism

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that intron might be left in.

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That's still a mystery
as to exactly why

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that happens in some tissues,
not in other tissues.

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And even the
mechanism, the proteins

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that are involved in cutting
and splicing these things,

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are reasonably well-defined.

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It's not clear why
is it sometimes

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specific to one
tissue versus another.

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These are called alternative
spliced products.

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If I have the same open reading
frame from start to end--

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that's how we define
an open reading frame--

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if I have the exon intron
exon in one blueprint,

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but just the two
exons in the other,

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those are alternative
splice products.

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And because they're two
different blueprints,

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you're going get two
different houses or two

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different proteins at the end.

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So we talked about the code at
the start, a code at the end.

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And again, the biological
system can figure out

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the promoter regions, where is
the boundary between the intron

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and exon, where the start,
where is the end using

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just the sequence syntax.

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There's no highlighter.

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There's no bold or
uppercase, lowercase.

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So we have really 3.5
billion base pairs,

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but only 35,000 genes.

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And the reason why--

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this was an early
estimate of 3%.

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It's actually only 1.5% of the
genome, so only around 60 or 70

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or 80 megabases or million bases
out of the 3.5 billion base

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pairs.

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So what makes up the rest?

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If I just showed you the
structure of the gene--

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here is the gene that I
just showed you, let's say.

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What makes up the
space between genes?

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Well, we're not going
to call it junk here,

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but the 50% of the
regions between genes

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are repeated elements.

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So in other words, there are
at least four different types

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of repeated elements.

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And those four are repeated
many times in the genome.

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That makes up 50% of
the genome itself.

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Now, these repeated elements--

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so the repeated sequences
are interesting.

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Because early on, when we had
to actually-- when people were

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using DNA in a forensic type
of way, the number of repeats

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can be different
between individuals.

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So what do I mean by that?

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So here is one type
of repeated element.

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This is a LINE, or Long
Interspersed Nuclear Element.

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It doesn't matter what
it is, but here you

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see 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
maybe 6, 7, 8 copies

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of this line between
this gene and this gene.

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So you might have 998 repeats
between these two parts,

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but I might have 997 of them.

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And if you do that
between a whole bunch

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of different areas
of the genome,

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you can actually measure it.

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You can actually
find differences.

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You can do simple things,
like figure out is a child

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a descendent of one
or both parents.

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You can certainly tell, to some
certain degree of confidence,

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whether a sample
left at a crime scene

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is from this individual
versus the random population.

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So just counting these repeats
is actually pretty useful.

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Even though today we have
much more accurate ways

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of figuring out
whether a sample came

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from one person
versus another, this

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is actually what was first
used almost 20 years ago

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in the forensic view of DNA.

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So these are the
repeated elements here.

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And the number of repeats can be
different between individuals.

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Now, the repeat--

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AUDIENCE: Another
[INAUDIBLE] idea.

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Look at the number and
placement of these repeats.

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And as you learn
about [INAUDIBLE],,

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you can measure comprehensively
especially these genomes.

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We have thousands of
[INAUDIBLE] in the public.

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And we actually
determine what is it

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about the spacing or number of
these repeats that does or does

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not influence the expression.

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Do they have a purpose
given that they're

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[? matured ?] quite widely
throughout the species?

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ATUL J. BUTTE: So the
repeats themselves are also

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interesting for one other thing.

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They repeat, so it makes
you think that these

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are copies of an original.

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And in fact, when we look at
the sequence of these repeated

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elements, we can tell what
the original looked like

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and how deviant is this
sequence from the original.

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So how can we tell that?

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So what a repeat exactly is
a repeat codes for machinery

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to make a copy of itself.

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That's all a repeat is.

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So let me be really clear.

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The repeated elements making
up 50% of the genome codes

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for the machinery that goes
back and makes a copy of itself.

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That's why it's going to
persist in the genome, right?

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If all you need is one or
a couple of these things,

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eventually they're going
to come back and make

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copies of themselves
as the genome goes on

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through evolution.

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Now, it turns out all of
these repeated elements

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are broken today in humans.

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None of them work
today in humans.

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That's not true in
other organisms.

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Repeats are still alive
and well in the mouse,

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but not in humans.

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In fact, they're
all dead in humans.

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Why?

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AUDIENCE: You mean
they don't work in--

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ATUL J. BUTTE: They can't work.

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None of them are working.

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They cannot go back and
make copies anymore.

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None of them code
for that anymore.

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AUDIENCE: OK.

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Generally, evolutionary
what we see

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is the first of
these classes are

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repeats that populate a
certain branch in a tree.

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ATUL J. BUTTE: Absolutely,
I have a whole thing

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on this if we get to it, OK?

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AUDIENCE: Oh, all right.

00:14:06.390 --> 00:14:07.682 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: If we get to it.

00:14:07.682 --> 00:14:09.352 align:middle line:90%


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So just think about that, OK?

00:14:10.560 --> 00:14:12.960 align:middle line:84%
So these different types of
nuclear-- these different

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repeated sequences
are all different ways

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to code for that machinery.

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That's all it is.

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We're the smartest
organisms on this planet

00:14:21.300 --> 00:14:24.330 align:middle line:84%
or so we like to think, so we
must have the largest genome,

00:14:24.330 --> 00:14:25.620 align:middle line:90%
right?

00:14:25.620 --> 00:14:26.550 align:middle line:90%
Absolutely wrong.

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So we have 3.5 million bases.

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So it turns out with 3.5 million
bases and only four letters

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A, G, T, C, you can fit your
entire genome on a CD-ROM.

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You don't even need
a DVD for this.

00:14:41.790 --> 00:14:44.700 align:middle line:84%
You can easily fit-- with
no additional compression,

00:14:44.700 --> 00:14:48.000 align:middle line:84%
you can fit your entire genome
in 750 megabytes, which is

00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.550 align:middle line:90%
what a typical CD-ROM can hold.

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So just think about
that for a second.

00:14:52.870 --> 00:14:55.590 align:middle line:84%
So look at these other organisms
and what their genome sizes

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are, the E. coli.

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So E. coli is a common bacteria
that lives in your gut.

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It can be friendly.

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It can also be pathogenic--
has 4 million basis.

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Yeast, which is
used to make bread--

00:15:05.780 --> 00:15:07.130 align:middle line:90%
12 million bases.

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But even the pea,
the garden pea--

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you got peas in your
salad maybe for lunch--

00:15:13.310 --> 00:15:17.510 align:middle line:84%
has more of a genome
than we do, 4.8 billion.

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Maize and wheat-- wheat
has 17 billion base pairs.

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And we have 3
billion base pairs.

00:15:25.898 --> 00:15:27.440 align:middle line:84%
So the size of the
genome has nothing

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to do with the intelligence
of the organism

00:15:29.232 --> 00:15:30.500 align:middle line:90%
at all it turns out.

00:15:30.500 --> 00:15:33.170 align:middle line:84%
So where are these
genomes different?

00:15:33.170 --> 00:15:36.420 align:middle line:84%
A lot of the difference is in
the space between the genes.

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So here are four organisms.

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Here's human, the same 50,000
base pairs I just showed you

00:15:41.060 --> 00:15:42.330 align:middle line:90%
on the previous slide.

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And here are four genes
within 50,000 base pairs

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and a whole bunch of
repeats in the middle.

00:15:46.620 --> 00:15:47.960 align:middle line:90%
Here's yeast.

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And you can see how many genes
there are and very few spaces.

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So it's much more compact.

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Here's maize.

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And wheat would
be the same thing.

00:15:55.890 --> 00:15:58.970 align:middle line:84%
And 50,000 base pairs,
there's only one gene there.

00:15:58.970 --> 00:16:00.260 align:middle line:90%
And here's E. coli.

00:16:00.260 --> 00:16:03.800 align:middle line:84%
In 50,000 bases, not
only is it so compact,

00:16:03.800 --> 00:16:05.930 align:middle line:84%
but there's actually
genes on both sides

00:16:05.930 --> 00:16:07.760 align:middle line:90%
of the genome, both strands.

00:16:07.760 --> 00:16:10.820 align:middle line:84%
And they can even
overlap it turns out.

00:16:10.820 --> 00:16:13.370 align:middle line:84%
Then we talk about that
more specifically here.

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This is a genome for
plasmodium falciparum, which

00:16:16.490 --> 00:16:19.130 align:middle line:90%
is the organism that causes--

00:16:19.130 --> 00:16:20.030 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Malaria?

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ATUL J. BUTTE: --malaria,
still the number one

00:16:22.160 --> 00:16:24.710 align:middle line:84%
infectious disease
killer in the world.

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This is chromosome 2.

00:16:25.790 --> 00:16:28.130 align:middle line:90%
And you see the arrows here.

00:16:28.130 --> 00:16:30.020 align:middle line:84%
The arrows represent
which strand

00:16:30.020 --> 00:16:31.760 align:middle line:90%
of the DNA the gene is on.

00:16:31.760 --> 00:16:34.670 align:middle line:84%
They don't all have to
be on the same strand,

00:16:34.670 --> 00:16:36.170 align:middle line:90%
making the problem even harder.

00:16:36.170 --> 00:16:38.030 align:middle line:90%
And they can overlap.

00:16:38.030 --> 00:16:41.660 align:middle line:84%
There's many instances of a
gene where another gene exactly

00:16:41.660 --> 00:16:42.890 align:middle line:90%
overlaps.

00:16:42.890 --> 00:16:47.700 align:middle line:84%
It makes a hard to measure one
versus the other it turns out.

00:16:47.700 --> 00:16:50.127 align:middle line:90%
So this is the central dogma.

00:16:50.127 --> 00:16:51.960 align:middle line:84%
We'll talk about central
dogmas in a second,

00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:54.180 align:middle line:84%
but this is basically the
meat of how this happens.

00:16:54.180 --> 00:16:55.222 align:middle line:90%
It serves as a blueprint.

00:16:55.222 --> 00:16:57.270 align:middle line:90%
As we all know, the DNA--

00:16:57.270 --> 00:17:01.590 align:middle line:84%
when the cell decides
to make this protein,

00:17:01.590 --> 00:17:04.349 align:middle line:84%
somehow the DNA
unravels in such a way

00:17:04.349 --> 00:17:06.869 align:middle line:84%
to expose just
the smallest piece

00:17:06.869 --> 00:17:10.050 align:middle line:84%
of the 1.5% of the genome that's
going to code for the protein

00:17:10.050 --> 00:17:11.369 align:middle line:90%
it wants to make.

00:17:11.369 --> 00:17:14.293 align:middle line:84%
And so the DNA is kept
locked up and nice and safe

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in the nucleus, the
center of the cells.

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And the proteins have to be
made in exterior of the cells.

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So a temporary copy is made
of the DNA that goes out.

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And it's going to be worked
on to make the protein.

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And the temporary copy is
called RNA or, specifically,

00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:29.220 align:middle line:90%
messenger RNA.

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And so when you
unravel, a messenger RNA

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is actually made in
an opposite sequence,

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or this is actually built in
the opposite complementarity

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of the DNA.

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So if there's an A there,
there's a T here, et cetera.

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That gets exported out
actively out of the nucleus

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and goes into the cytoplasm
where it's made into a protein.

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And to me, this is the
most interesting part

00:17:52.530 --> 00:17:54.120 align:middle line:90%
of the whole thing.

00:17:54.120 --> 00:17:58.410 align:middle line:84%
Somehow nature realized that
you can't just make proteins

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with the four letters.

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You have As, Ts, Cs, and Gs.

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And proteins are made
up of 21 amino acids--

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not 20, 21 amino acids.

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The 21st is actually one that
was just discovered about 10

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years or so ago it turns out.

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And the coding for that
one breaks all the rules.

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And we could talk about that
if people are interested.

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But there's 20 amino
acids, let's say.

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And I have four letters.

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Obviously, if I made one
amino acid for one letter,

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I couldn't do it.

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If I had two letters, I got
four things in this one and four

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things in this one.

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That would code
for 16 amino acids,

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but I have 20 to choose from.

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So I need three letters to code
for at least 20 amino acids.

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So that's what's known
as the genetic code.

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I'm blanking on the term.

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So each position can be one
of the four nucleotides.

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And nature evolved into using
three nucleotides to code

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for a single amino acid.

00:18:51.460 --> 00:18:53.820 align:middle line:84%
So that messenger
RNA comes in here.

00:18:53.820 --> 00:18:55.920 align:middle line:84%
And one of the
most amazing pieces

00:18:55.920 --> 00:19:00.390 align:middle line:84%
of nanotechnology, this
ribosome, looks at the strand

00:19:00.390 --> 00:19:01.800 align:middle line:90%
as it's coming in.

00:19:01.800 --> 00:19:05.310 align:middle line:84%
And it's able to link that
strand with other amino acids

00:19:05.310 --> 00:19:09.480 align:middle line:84%
that are held in place by these
transfer RNAs that recognize

00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:11.260 align:middle line:90%
these triplet sequences.

00:19:11.260 --> 00:19:14.130 align:middle line:84%
So if there's a
particular A, A, T,

00:19:14.130 --> 00:19:17.610 align:middle line:84%
the tRNA that recognizes
A, A, T, or rather

00:19:17.610 --> 00:19:20.550 align:middle line:84%
the opposite of that, which is
holding the right amino acid,

00:19:20.550 --> 00:19:21.630 align:middle line:90%
comes into place.

00:19:21.630 --> 00:19:27.180 align:middle line:84%
And the ribosome attaches it to
build a growing protein chain.

00:19:27.180 --> 00:19:29.970 align:middle line:84%
So in comes the RNA,
out comes the protein.

00:19:29.970 --> 00:19:32.580 align:middle line:84%
The micro machinery
for this is astounding

00:19:32.580 --> 00:19:34.090 align:middle line:90%
when you think about it.

00:19:34.090 --> 00:19:38.160 align:middle line:84%
Remember, this is happening
many, many times per second

00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:39.090 align:middle line:90%
in all of your cells.

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You don't have to
think about it.

00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:41.850 align:middle line:90%
It hardly ever fails.

00:19:41.850 --> 00:19:45.220 align:middle line:84%
If it failed, we just
couldn't do anything.

00:19:45.220 --> 00:19:46.630 align:middle line:90%
So here is this genetic code.

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So there's 64 different
positions here.

00:19:49.060 --> 00:19:51.480 align:middle line:84%
And so you see
something like UUU.

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So Us are used in the
RNA instead of Ts.

00:19:54.120 --> 00:19:55.620 align:middle line:84%
It's just a slight
difference there.

00:19:55.620 --> 00:19:57.780 align:middle line:90%
UUU is code for phenylalanine.

00:19:57.780 --> 00:19:59.520 align:middle line:90%
UCC codes for serine.

00:19:59.520 --> 00:20:00.930 align:middle line:84%
And that's the
code, essentially.

00:20:00.930 --> 00:20:03.870 align:middle line:84%
Now, obviously, these
four different codes

00:20:03.870 --> 00:20:05.160 align:middle line:90%
code for serine.

00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:08.472 align:middle line:84%
It doesn't actually matter
what the third base pair is.

00:20:08.472 --> 00:20:10.180 align:middle line:84%
It's the first two
are what are specific.

00:20:10.180 --> 00:20:11.680 align:middle line:84%
So there's degeneracies
in this code

00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:13.620 align:middle line:84%
because we don't have
to choose from 64.

00:20:13.620 --> 00:20:18.210 align:middle line:84%
We only have 20 or 21
amino acids to choose from.

00:20:18.210 --> 00:20:20.293 align:middle line:84%
So this is actually
the central dogma here.

00:20:20.293 --> 00:20:21.960 align:middle line:84%
And these are all the
different concepts

00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:23.160 align:middle line:90%
we've talked about so far.

00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:24.630 align:middle line:84%
We talked about
nucleotides, which

00:20:24.630 --> 00:20:26.700 align:middle line:90%
are held in a double helix.

00:20:26.700 --> 00:20:29.385 align:middle line:84%
One single double helix
makes up a chromosome.

00:20:29.385 --> 00:20:31.950 align:middle line:84%
A chromosome holds
the genes or DNA.

00:20:31.950 --> 00:20:35.370 align:middle line:84%
And the entire set of all these
genes is called the genome.

00:20:35.370 --> 00:20:37.920 align:middle line:84%
The genes code
for messenger RNA.

00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:40.680 align:middle line:84%
The transfer RNAs
bring the amino acids,

00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:43.230 align:middle line:84%
and the ribosome operates on
that to make the proteins.

00:20:43.230 --> 00:20:45.120 align:middle line:84%
We'll talk about signal
sequence in a second.

00:20:45.120 --> 00:20:47.340 align:middle line:84%
The amino acids are joined
together to make proteins.

00:20:47.340 --> 00:20:50.910 align:middle line:84%
And this sequence of arrows
here is called a central dogma.

00:20:50.910 --> 00:20:54.630 align:middle line:84%
Even though the arrows
work bidirectionally now,

00:20:54.630 --> 00:20:58.290 align:middle line:84%
this is the original
central dogma.

00:20:58.290 --> 00:21:00.840 align:middle line:84%
Now, another fascinating
part is this.

00:21:00.840 --> 00:21:04.410 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes the cell
needs to make something

00:21:04.410 --> 00:21:08.530 align:middle line:84%
that would be quite
detrimental to the cell.

00:21:08.530 --> 00:21:10.950 align:middle line:84%
So for example, there are
cells in your pancreas

00:21:10.950 --> 00:21:15.390 align:middle line:84%
that need to make things
to digest the food we eat.

00:21:15.390 --> 00:21:16.890 align:middle line:90%
I just went to the truck.

00:21:16.890 --> 00:21:18.810 align:middle line:90%
I had a little dumpling.

00:21:18.810 --> 00:21:21.930 align:middle line:84%
Now, I need to break
down that protein.

00:21:21.930 --> 00:21:23.790 align:middle line:84%
And it turns out I
can break down protein

00:21:23.790 --> 00:21:25.840 align:middle line:90%
with something called trypsin.

00:21:25.840 --> 00:21:27.840 align:middle line:84%
Trypsin will help me break
down proteins as well

00:21:27.840 --> 00:21:32.940 align:middle line:84%
as many other things, but those
things are proteins themselves.

00:21:32.940 --> 00:21:35.460 align:middle line:90%
So here's the quandary here.

00:21:35.460 --> 00:21:37.080 align:middle line:84%
My pancreatic
cells, how are they

00:21:37.080 --> 00:21:41.250 align:middle line:84%
going to make this trypsin
without digesting itself?

00:21:41.250 --> 00:21:44.010 align:middle line:84%
How do I make proteins
that are going to kill me

00:21:44.010 --> 00:21:45.600 align:middle line:90%
if I need to make them?

00:21:45.600 --> 00:21:49.080 align:middle line:84%
Well, so what happens
is the first few base

00:21:49.080 --> 00:21:52.590 align:middle line:84%
pairs of the sequence, in fact,
the first few amino acids that

00:21:52.590 --> 00:21:55.050 align:middle line:84%
get spit out by
the ribosome, might

00:21:55.050 --> 00:21:57.360 align:middle line:84%
code for what's called
a signal peptide.

00:21:57.360 --> 00:22:01.020 align:middle line:84%
And the ribosome might
see this and say, hold on.

00:22:01.020 --> 00:22:04.600 align:middle line:84%
The thing I'm about
to make could kill me.

00:22:04.600 --> 00:22:06.610 align:middle line:90%
I need to stop here.

00:22:06.610 --> 00:22:08.640 align:middle line:84%
And what happens is
somehow the ribosome

00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.160 align:middle line:84%
makes its way to a
safer place to make

00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:13.770 align:middle line:84%
the proteins called the
Endoplasmic Reticulum,

00:22:13.770 --> 00:22:15.180 align:middle line:90%
or the ER.

00:22:15.180 --> 00:22:16.920 align:middle line:90%
So this is the ribosome.

00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:18.250 align:middle line:90%
Here's the RNA coming in.

00:22:18.250 --> 00:22:20.063 align:middle line:90%
Here's a growing protein chain.

00:22:20.063 --> 00:22:21.480 align:middle line:84%
And all of a sudden
this red piece

00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:24.688 align:middle line:84%
here gets recognized by the
accessory part of the ribosome,

00:22:24.688 --> 00:22:25.980 align:middle line:90%
the signal recognition peptide.

00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:26.940 align:middle line:90%
It says, hold on.

00:22:26.940 --> 00:22:28.528 align:middle line:90%
Don't keep going here.

00:22:28.528 --> 00:22:30.570 align:middle line:84%
Because if I even have
just one molecule of this,

00:22:30.570 --> 00:22:33.442 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to start degrading
the proteins within the cell.

00:22:33.442 --> 00:22:34.650 align:middle line:90%
So the whole thing goes over.

00:22:34.650 --> 00:22:38.370 align:middle line:84%
It starts to spit the
protein chain into this hole

00:22:38.370 --> 00:22:41.820 align:middle line:84%
into the endoplasmic reticulum
where that can actually then

00:22:41.820 --> 00:22:43.595 align:middle line:90%
be built safely.

00:22:43.595 --> 00:22:44.970 align:middle line:84%
This is in a
separate compartment

00:22:44.970 --> 00:22:46.710 align:middle line:90%
that can be exported.

00:22:46.710 --> 00:22:48.600 align:middle line:84%
It's a pretty
sophisticated piece

00:22:48.600 --> 00:22:50.220 align:middle line:90%
of nanotechnology, this thing.

00:22:50.220 --> 00:22:53.040 align:middle line:84%
It knows, because it's given
the right codes, to not

00:22:53.040 --> 00:22:55.380 align:middle line:84%
digest itself because it
might need to make something

00:22:55.380 --> 00:22:57.660 align:middle line:90%
quite toxic to the cell.

00:22:57.660 --> 00:22:59.370 align:middle line:84%
There are signal
recognition peptides

00:22:59.370 --> 00:23:01.650 align:middle line:84%
like this likely for a lot
of different compartments

00:23:01.650 --> 00:23:03.210 align:middle line:90%
in the cell.

00:23:03.210 --> 00:23:04.680 align:middle line:90%
Don't build this into the ER.

00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:06.510 align:middle line:90%
Build it somewhere else.

00:23:06.510 --> 00:23:09.030 align:middle line:84%
The complete catalog of
those is still unknown,

00:23:09.030 --> 00:23:10.770 align:middle line:84%
but would be quite
valuable to know.

00:23:10.770 --> 00:23:13.390 align:middle line:90%


00:23:13.390 --> 00:23:18.340 align:middle line:84%
So how did the cell
decide to make this gene?

00:23:18.340 --> 00:23:21.340 align:middle line:84%
This area of research is called
transcriptional regulation.

00:23:21.340 --> 00:23:24.640 align:middle line:84%
So why does this cell decide
to make that messenger RNA?

00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:27.140 align:middle line:84%
No one knows for
sure in any one case

00:23:27.140 --> 00:23:29.800 align:middle line:84%
how we actually get
the DNA to unfold

00:23:29.800 --> 00:23:32.830 align:middle line:84%
in just the right way for these
things to actually be built,

00:23:32.830 --> 00:23:34.150 align:middle line:90%
but we love to theorize.

00:23:34.150 --> 00:23:36.500 align:middle line:84%
And we love to draw
pictures like this.

00:23:36.500 --> 00:23:38.980 align:middle line:84%
And you'll even see pictures
like this in The New England

00:23:38.980 --> 00:23:40.180 align:middle line:90%
Journal of Medicine now.

00:23:40.180 --> 00:23:42.860 align:middle line:84%
This is a commonly accepted
way to draw a gene.

00:23:42.860 --> 00:23:44.720 align:middle line:90%
So here's the start of a gene.

00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.860 align:middle line:84%
The arrow here means that this
is where the gene, a copy,

00:23:47.860 --> 00:23:49.240 align:middle line:90%
is going to be taken off.

00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:50.830 align:middle line:90%
And this is the upstream region.

00:23:50.830 --> 00:23:52.690 align:middle line:84%
And these boxes
represent things that

00:23:52.690 --> 00:23:56.230 align:middle line:84%
can bind to that upstream
region to turn on or turn off

00:23:56.230 --> 00:23:57.560 align:middle line:90%
this whole process.

00:23:57.560 --> 00:24:00.620 align:middle line:84%
So the GR here represents
the Glucocorticoid Receptor.

00:24:00.620 --> 00:24:03.625 align:middle line:84%
So when this cell sees
steroids, the steroids

00:24:03.625 --> 00:24:05.500 align:middle line:84%
are going to bind to
glucocorticoid receptor,

00:24:05.500 --> 00:24:08.200 align:middle line:84%
and the glucocorticoid
receptor is going to bind here.

00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:10.390 align:middle line:84%
And this picture here shows
that with the hormone,

00:24:10.390 --> 00:24:13.210 align:middle line:84%
with steroids, this
gets turned off.

00:24:13.210 --> 00:24:15.520 align:middle line:90%
They put a little X here.

00:24:15.520 --> 00:24:17.560 align:middle line:84%
And here, this is
saying without,

00:24:17.560 --> 00:24:21.370 align:middle line:84%
so with no steroids present,
these two are actually

00:24:21.370 --> 00:24:22.540 align:middle line:90%
bound in the natural state.

00:24:22.540 --> 00:24:24.790 align:middle line:84%
But when you have that plus
a glucocorticoid receptor,

00:24:24.790 --> 00:24:25.840 align:middle line:90%
the thing gets turned on.

00:24:25.840 --> 00:24:29.170 align:middle line:84%
So you can imagine things,
in fact other proteins--

00:24:29.170 --> 00:24:32.290 align:middle line:84%
the glucocorticoid receptor
is another protein--

00:24:32.290 --> 00:24:36.130 align:middle line:84%
come back to the DNA
and bind to the regions

00:24:36.130 --> 00:24:39.800 align:middle line:84%
upstream of the genes to turn
on and turn off other genes.

00:24:39.800 --> 00:24:43.690 align:middle line:84%
So the whole thing is one
amazing repetitive cascade.

00:24:43.690 --> 00:24:46.150 align:middle line:84%
Genes code for
proteins, some of which

00:24:46.150 --> 00:24:48.880 align:middle line:84%
do their job, some of
which come back to the DNA

00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:51.400 align:middle line:84%
and turn on other genes
or turn off other genes.

00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:54.140 align:middle line:84%
And this cycle
goes on endlessly.

00:24:54.140 --> 00:24:59.470 align:middle line:84%
And we just know the smallest
fraction of these cycles.

00:24:59.470 --> 00:25:02.620 align:middle line:84%
Remember, we're drawing nice
pretty boxes like this here.

00:25:02.620 --> 00:25:05.230 align:middle line:84%
There is no boldface,
no highlighter,

00:25:05.230 --> 00:25:07.300 align:middle line:84%
nothing upstream
that tells us this is

00:25:07.300 --> 00:25:08.650 align:middle line:90%
where it's going to bind.

00:25:08.650 --> 00:25:10.720 align:middle line:90%
All we have are the letters.

00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:13.570 align:middle line:84%
And a lot of slow motion
biology goes into figuring out

00:25:13.570 --> 00:25:15.257 align:middle line:90%
where these binding sites are.

00:25:15.257 --> 00:25:17.590 align:middle line:84%
And we love to think that we
have algorithms to do this.

00:25:17.590 --> 00:25:19.900 align:middle line:90%
Some work and some don't.

00:25:19.900 --> 00:25:22.150 align:middle line:84%
Huge area of research here
if we could figure out

00:25:22.150 --> 00:25:25.450 align:middle line:84%
this immense network
of transcription.

00:25:25.450 --> 00:25:27.550 align:middle line:84%
What can start the
process even though these

00:25:27.550 --> 00:25:29.320 align:middle line:90%
are going on endlessly?

00:25:29.320 --> 00:25:32.080 align:middle line:84%
Whole bunches, whole
different actions, on cells

00:25:32.080 --> 00:25:34.730 align:middle line:84%
can actually trigger
specific responses.

00:25:34.730 --> 00:25:37.300 align:middle line:84%
So for example, hormone
action on receptors--

00:25:37.300 --> 00:25:38.500 align:middle line:90%
I just had lunch.

00:25:38.500 --> 00:25:40.630 align:middle line:84%
My pancreas is now
making insulin.

00:25:40.630 --> 00:25:42.370 align:middle line:90%
That insulin is a small protein.

00:25:42.370 --> 00:25:44.710 align:middle line:84%
It's getting exported out
of my pancreatic cells

00:25:44.710 --> 00:25:46.150 align:middle line:90%
into my bloodstream.

00:25:46.150 --> 00:25:48.970 align:middle line:84%
That insulin is going to
now go to the muscle and fat

00:25:48.970 --> 00:25:51.280 align:middle line:84%
because my stomach is
taking in all this sugar

00:25:51.280 --> 00:25:53.650 align:middle line:90%
from what I just ate.

00:25:53.650 --> 00:25:56.120 align:middle line:84%
I need to store that
sugar somewhere.

00:25:56.120 --> 00:25:58.840 align:middle line:84%
So the insulin is going from
the pancreas into the blood

00:25:58.840 --> 00:26:02.410 align:middle line:84%
and triggering a response
as I speak in my liver

00:26:02.410 --> 00:26:03.920 align:middle line:90%
fat and muscle cells.

00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.210 align:middle line:84%
So there might be a receptor
up here, another protein.

00:26:07.210 --> 00:26:09.460 align:middle line:84%
The insulin comes and binds
and triggers a whole bunch

00:26:09.460 --> 00:26:11.800 align:middle line:84%
of things to turn on and turn
off different genes being

00:26:11.800 --> 00:26:13.450 align:middle line:90%
expressed.

00:26:13.450 --> 00:26:15.250 align:middle line:90%
Shock or stress to the cell--

00:26:15.250 --> 00:26:17.230 align:middle line:84%
I just walked over
here from Children's.

00:26:17.230 --> 00:26:20.050 align:middle line:90%
It is frickin' cold out there.

00:26:20.050 --> 00:26:21.550 align:middle line:84%
A whole bunch of
things just started

00:26:21.550 --> 00:26:25.750 align:middle line:84%
to be transcribed in my
genome, new source of or lack

00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:26.510 align:middle line:90%
of nutrients.

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If you have yeast and you
put in one type of sugar,

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all of a sudden it starts
to make things to deal

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with that type of sugar.

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If you change it to a
different source of sugar,

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those genes go down.

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Another set of genes go up.

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So that could
start a whole bunch

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of genes being transcribed.

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Internal derangements
of a cell, this

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is actually two
different ways to make

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a transcriptional program.

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If I fly from here
to San Francisco,

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I'm going to be hit
with cosmic rays.

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And more than
likely, one of them

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is going to hit one of my cells.

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And all of a sudden, if it hits
something in the wrong place,

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I might start to make a gene
that I shouldn't be making.

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But even better,
if my cell detects

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that it's making something
it shouldn't be making,

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it might just decide
to kill itself, save me

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the problem of having cancer.

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So those are two different
ways internal derangements can

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actually trigger these things.

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Sometimes cells can
decide to kill themselves

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for the benefit of the organism.

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And that's another common
way to start these programs.

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And of course,
the list of things

00:27:19.090 --> 00:27:21.310 align:middle line:84%
that can trigger a
transcriptional program

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is endless.

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It's infinite, right?

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I can go like this, and I've
just triggered some genes

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in my hand, for example.

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Anything could start
these things going.

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Any questions so far?

00:27:35.230 --> 00:27:39.550 align:middle line:84%
I have about three or four
slides left on biology.

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Is this stuff you
all already knew?

00:27:41.260 --> 00:27:43.150 align:middle line:84%
Are you learning
anything at all so far?

00:27:43.150 --> 00:27:46.480 align:middle line:90%
Perhaps, OK.

00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.330 align:middle line:84%
So this is a little
bit more esoteric now,

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this idea of temporal programs.

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So one of the more
important places

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where genes are getting
turned on and turned off

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is during the development
of an organism.

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So in our 10 months
of gestation when

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we go from fertilized egg to
actually leaving the womb,

00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:06.670 align:middle line:84%
whole bunches of
genes are getting

00:28:06.670 --> 00:28:10.570 align:middle line:84%
turned on and turned off in a
pretty well-defined program.

00:28:10.570 --> 00:28:12.490 align:middle line:84%
And the picture
I'm showing here is

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the difference between
development and--

00:28:19.210 --> 00:28:20.710 align:middle line:84%
I guess-- so the
terms they use here

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are segmentation
versus homeosis.

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Take a look at this
picture, for example.

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These are two houses built
in San Francisco in 1857.

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And they both started
with the same blueprint.

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And they both started
out-- they're essentially

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the same house right
next to each other.

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But after more than 100
years, the two houses

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look very different
from each other.

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So this is given as an
example on this cell paper

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as basically saying,
the genes that

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are involved in the development
of a particular tissue

00:28:47.830 --> 00:28:51.730 align:middle line:84%
might not be the same ones that
refine the tissue after it's

00:28:51.730 --> 00:28:54.670 align:middle line:84%
been built. So the
same tissue can

00:28:54.670 --> 00:28:58.180 align:middle line:84%
have two different programs
on two different time scales

00:28:58.180 --> 00:29:01.143 align:middle line:90%
in terms of gene expression.

00:29:01.143 --> 00:29:03.560 align:middle line:84%
Now, let's talk about this
process of making the messenger

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RNA because this is important.

00:29:05.060 --> 00:29:09.170 align:middle line:84%
Most common, our most
impressive way to measure genes

00:29:09.170 --> 00:29:12.590 align:middle line:84%
now happens to do a
lot with messenger RNA.

00:29:12.590 --> 00:29:16.010 align:middle line:84%
mRNA can be transcribed at
several hundred nucleotides

00:29:16.010 --> 00:29:17.490 align:middle line:90%
per minute.

00:29:17.490 --> 00:29:20.540 align:middle line:90%
That's not that fast, actually.

00:29:20.540 --> 00:29:24.140 align:middle line:84%
So if you have a gene that's
10,000 base pairs long,

00:29:24.140 --> 00:29:27.620 align:middle line:84%
I'm only doing 100 a minute,
maybe a couple 100 minute.

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It could take me hours
to transcribe one gene.

00:29:32.330 --> 00:29:34.340 align:middle line:84%
So in thinking
about this process,

00:29:34.340 --> 00:29:36.860 align:middle line:84%
this actually puts it
into a real time scale

00:29:36.860 --> 00:29:39.560 align:middle line:84%
that we can know and love
here in terms of minutes.

00:29:39.560 --> 00:29:42.080 align:middle line:84%
So the gene
dystrophin, dystrophin

00:29:42.080 --> 00:29:43.145 align:middle line:90%
is involved in muscle.

00:29:43.145 --> 00:29:45.410 align:middle line:84%
It turns out dystrophin
has defects that

00:29:45.410 --> 00:29:47.287 align:middle line:90%
can lead to muscular dystrophy.

00:29:47.287 --> 00:29:49.370 align:middle line:84%
Dystrophin is involved
with how muscles are formed

00:29:49.370 --> 00:29:50.360 align:middle line:90%
and contract.

00:29:50.360 --> 00:29:55.732 align:middle line:84%
One dystrophin gene can
take 20 hours to transcribe.

00:29:55.732 --> 00:29:57.440 align:middle line:84%
So how are we able to
make enough of this

00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:02.690 align:middle line:84%
if it takes 20 hours
to make, any ideas?

00:30:02.690 --> 00:30:04.430 align:middle line:84%
If it takes 20
hours for me to make

00:30:04.430 --> 00:30:08.210 align:middle line:84%
one transcript of dystrophin
and I need to make a bunch,

00:30:08.210 --> 00:30:10.180 align:middle line:90%
how am I going to do that?

00:30:10.180 --> 00:30:11.692 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:30:11.692 --> 00:30:14.150 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: You have to have
a whole bunch of ribosomes,

00:30:14.150 --> 00:30:14.720 align:middle line:90%
but what?

00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.730 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Multiple
copies of the gene.

00:30:16.730 --> 00:30:18.688 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: OK, you
can have multiple copies

00:30:18.688 --> 00:30:20.990 align:middle line:84%
of the gene in the genome,
but there's one other way

00:30:20.990 --> 00:30:24.200 align:middle line:90%
that you haven't thought of.

00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:27.110 align:middle line:84%
Look, I'm telling
you it takes 20 hours

00:30:27.110 --> 00:30:29.690 align:middle line:84%
at the start of the pipe to
the end of the pipe, right?

00:30:29.690 --> 00:30:31.400 align:middle line:84%
Now, I'm not telling
you how fast I'm

00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:32.690 align:middle line:90%
shoving things into the pipe.

00:30:32.690 --> 00:30:36.517 align:middle line:84%
I can have one of the things
making the [INAUDIBLE] right

00:30:36.517 --> 00:30:38.600 align:middle line:84%
behind the next, behind
the next, behind the next.

00:30:38.600 --> 00:30:42.830 align:middle line:84%
So I could just stream off
thousands of copies at a time,

00:30:42.830 --> 00:30:43.760 align:middle line:90%
right?

00:30:43.760 --> 00:30:46.640 align:middle line:84%
I don't have to wait for one
to be done to start the next.

00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:48.440 align:middle line:84%
I can have them
all go in one base

00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:49.880 align:middle line:84%
pair off of each other,
a couple of base pairs

00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:50.640 align:middle line:90%
off from each other.

00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:52.170 align:middle line:84%
That's how I can
make more or fewer.

00:30:52.170 --> 00:30:53.705 align:middle line:84%
But I still need
all the ribosomes

00:30:53.705 --> 00:30:54.830 align:middle line:90%
to make them into proteins.

00:30:54.830 --> 00:30:57.410 align:middle line:90%
You're absolutely right.

00:30:57.410 --> 00:30:59.780 align:middle line:90%
So that's an important concept.

00:30:59.780 --> 00:31:02.570 align:middle line:84%
Even though they are long,
it doesn't tell you really

00:31:02.570 --> 00:31:06.168 align:middle line:84%
how many we can make
given any unit time.

00:31:06.168 --> 00:31:08.210 align:middle line:84%
If the cell really wants
to make a bunch of them,

00:31:08.210 --> 00:31:09.627 align:middle line:84%
it could probably
figure out a way

00:31:09.627 --> 00:31:12.440 align:middle line:84%
to do it by just lining
up the polymerases

00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:14.820 align:middle line:90%
to make copies of the gene.

00:31:14.820 --> 00:31:17.060 align:middle line:84%
Now, it turns out
a lot of messenger

00:31:17.060 --> 00:31:20.390 align:middle line:90%
RNA happens to end with poly(A).

00:31:20.390 --> 00:31:21.780 align:middle line:90%
So what do I mean by this?

00:31:21.780 --> 00:31:25.400 align:middle line:84%
So as that little polymerase
is working on the DNA streaming

00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:32.090 align:middle line:84%
off a copy of the mRNA, when
it's done it seems to stutter.

00:31:32.090 --> 00:31:36.560 align:middle line:84%
So it adds a whole bunch of
A, A, A, A, As at the end.

00:31:36.560 --> 00:31:38.900 align:middle line:90%
Lucky for us--

00:31:38.900 --> 00:31:41.758 align:middle line:84%
I'm sure there's some
biological reason for this,

00:31:41.758 --> 00:31:43.550 align:middle line:84%
but it happens to be
very fortunate for us.

00:31:43.550 --> 00:31:47.600 align:middle line:84%
Because if we have something
that sticks to this wall that's

00:31:47.600 --> 00:31:52.280 align:middle line:84%
just made of T, T, T, T, T, it's
going to bind to the A, A, A,

00:31:52.280 --> 00:31:54.080 align:middle line:84%
A, A. And all of a
sudden, we can now

00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:57.500 align:middle line:84%
have a big filter for
all the messenger RNAs.

00:31:57.500 --> 00:32:00.650 align:middle line:84%
All we had to do is stream the
messenger RNAs past my little

00:32:00.650 --> 00:32:03.140 align:middle line:84%
thing stuck to the
wall with the poly(T)s,

00:32:03.140 --> 00:32:05.000 align:middle line:84%
and it's going to
bind to the poly(A)s.

00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:06.980 align:middle line:84%
That's how we can fish
out all the messenger

00:32:06.980 --> 00:32:09.560 align:middle line:84%
RNAs from the
general pool of RNAs

00:32:09.560 --> 00:32:12.080 align:middle line:84%
that might be out there because
not all RNAs are actually

00:32:12.080 --> 00:32:14.180 align:middle line:90%
coding for proteins.

00:32:14.180 --> 00:32:17.330 align:middle line:84%
And in general, this
is how we detect RNAs.

00:32:17.330 --> 00:32:20.000 align:middle line:84%
You can take the
sequence of RNAs

00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.920 align:middle line:84%
and build the reverse
complement of it.

00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.400 align:middle line:84%
So everywhere there's a G,
put a C in my detection.

00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.010 align:middle line:84%
And if there's an A, put a
T. If there's a C, put a G.

00:32:28.010 --> 00:32:30.140 align:middle line:84%
So we can use the
reverse complement

00:32:30.140 --> 00:32:32.120 align:middle line:84%
to help us tell whether
this sequence is

00:32:32.120 --> 00:32:34.370 align:middle line:84%
there or not depending on
how we designed the probe.

00:32:34.370 --> 00:32:38.030 align:middle line:84%
And we're going to
talk about that.

00:32:38.030 --> 00:32:39.530 align:middle line:84%
So this is, I think,
the last slide.

00:32:39.530 --> 00:32:41.650 align:middle line:84%
So why are we trying to do
this whole Genome Project?

00:32:41.650 --> 00:32:44.140 align:middle line:84%
Why was it important to actually
complete the Genome Project?

00:32:44.140 --> 00:32:46.060 align:middle line:84%
[? Eric ?] [? Weiner ?]
basically uses this analogy

00:32:46.060 --> 00:32:48.185 align:middle line:84%
that knowing all the genes
is equivalent to knowing

00:32:48.185 --> 00:32:50.800 align:middle line:84%
the periodic table of
the elements for biology.

00:32:50.800 --> 00:32:54.880 align:middle line:84%
So around 1850s,
1860s, 1870s, Mendeleev

00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:57.648 align:middle line:84%
came up with the way of lining
up all the elements in such

00:32:57.648 --> 00:32:59.440 align:middle line:84%
a way to be able to
predict characteristics

00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:00.770 align:middle line:90%
of those elements.

00:33:00.770 --> 00:33:03.480 align:middle line:84%
Now, back then, most of
this was empty spaces

00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.980 align:middle line:84%
because they hadn't seen some
of these rare elements before.

00:33:05.980 --> 00:33:09.460 align:middle line:84%
But they knew, by golly, there
has to be an element right here

00:33:09.460 --> 00:33:11.050 align:middle line:90%
that's inert, for example.

00:33:11.050 --> 00:33:13.482 align:middle line:84%
Or there's got to be an
element here that's magnetic.

00:33:13.482 --> 00:33:15.940 align:middle line:84%
They can make these predictions
even though they didn't see

00:33:15.940 --> 00:33:17.107 align:middle line:90%
what was actually there yet.

00:33:17.107 --> 00:33:18.220 align:middle line:90%
They hadn't discovered it.

00:33:18.220 --> 00:33:21.307 align:middle line:84%
The same way, the periodic
table for biology for genomics

00:33:21.307 --> 00:33:22.390 align:middle line:90%
isn't going to be a table.

00:33:22.390 --> 00:33:23.980 align:middle line:84%
It might be a tree
because that's

00:33:23.980 --> 00:33:25.480 align:middle line:84%
how these genes are
actually formed,

00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:27.380 align:middle line:90%
through duplication events.

00:33:27.380 --> 00:33:29.800 align:middle line:84%
And so the idea is
maybe we can predict

00:33:29.800 --> 00:33:31.930 align:middle line:84%
that there must be something
in the genome that's

00:33:31.930 --> 00:33:32.597 align:middle line:90%
binding to this.

00:33:32.597 --> 00:33:34.555 align:middle line:84%
So there must be something
in the genome that's

00:33:34.555 --> 00:33:35.710 align:middle line:90%
responsible for that.

00:33:35.710 --> 00:33:37.210 align:middle line:84%
Now that we have
the entire catalog,

00:33:37.210 --> 00:33:39.340 align:middle line:84%
we can start to fish
those things out.

00:33:39.340 --> 00:33:40.840 align:middle line:84%
And what this whole
course is is how

00:33:40.840 --> 00:33:43.360 align:middle line:90%
this is relevant to medicine.

00:33:43.360 --> 00:33:45.220 align:middle line:84%
So most of the figures
I've shown you here

00:33:45.220 --> 00:33:46.502 align:middle line:90%
are from this book Genomes.

00:33:46.502 --> 00:33:48.085 align:middle line:84%
In fact, there's a
second edition now.

00:33:48.085 --> 00:33:49.630 align:middle line:84%
It might be one of
the required reading

00:33:49.630 --> 00:33:50.797 align:middle line:90%
or something for the course.

00:33:50.797 --> 00:33:51.730 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

00:33:51.730 --> 00:33:53.772 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: But it's
freely available at NCBI.

00:33:53.772 --> 00:33:55.720 align:middle line:90%
Definitely know this.

00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.300 align:middle line:84%
So I would-- and in fact, all
the figures are there, too,

00:33:58.300 --> 00:34:00.092 align:middle line:84%
if you're interested
in adding these things

00:34:00.092 --> 00:34:01.210 align:middle line:90%
to reports and stuff.

00:34:01.210 --> 00:34:03.460 align:middle line:84%
I highly recommend
this more than anything

00:34:03.460 --> 00:34:06.400 align:middle line:84%
else only because it's very
readable, lots of great figures

00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.920 align:middle line:84%
to help explain these processes,
and it's very cutting edge,

00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:10.510 align:middle line:84%
starts with
proteomics, mass spec,

00:34:10.510 --> 00:34:13.570 align:middle line:84%
microarrays, the whole works,
much better than other books,

00:34:13.570 --> 00:34:15.400 align:middle line:90%
relevant books in this field.

00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.320 align:middle line:84%
And the Department of
Medicine at this website

00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:18.280 align:middle line:90%
has a primer on this.

00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:19.659 align:middle line:90%
It's starting to get old now.

00:34:19.659 --> 00:34:20.679 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.492 align:middle line:84%
You guys received
another email OK?

00:34:23.492 --> 00:34:25.659 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: This is
starting to get a little old,

00:34:25.659 --> 00:34:26.909 align:middle line:90%
but it's still quite relevant.

00:34:26.909 --> 00:34:30.130 align:middle line:84%
Some of that stuff will
never go out of date.

00:34:30.130 --> 00:34:33.627 align:middle line:84%
OK, so I got another, let's
say, 45 minutes or so?

00:34:33.627 --> 00:34:34.210 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Yup.

00:34:34.210 --> 00:34:34.960 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: OK.

00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.969 align:middle line:90%


00:34:37.969 --> 00:34:41.840 align:middle line:84%
Let's talk about gene
measurement techniques.

00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:45.900 align:middle line:84%
I will come up with something
different for Tuesday.

00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:48.030 align:middle line:84%
So what I'm going
to talk about now--

00:34:48.030 --> 00:34:49.940 align:middle line:90%
so any questions so far?

00:34:49.940 --> 00:34:50.440 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:54.830 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] time
scale for the transcription?

00:34:54.830 --> 00:34:56.530 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Sure.

00:34:56.530 --> 00:35:01.730 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Does
anybody know like said

00:35:01.730 --> 00:35:05.330 align:middle line:84%
you can line up multiple
transcription [INAUDIBLE]

00:35:05.330 --> 00:35:07.940 align:middle line:84%
to combat these slower
[INAUDIBLE],, right?

00:35:07.940 --> 00:35:09.750 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Yup.

00:35:09.750 --> 00:35:14.220 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: And I guess assuming
that transcription complex

00:35:14.220 --> 00:35:16.832 align:middle line:90%
binds to the start--

00:35:16.832 --> 00:35:17.790 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Exactly.

00:35:17.790 --> 00:35:20.690 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: --and
then faster than it

00:35:20.690 --> 00:35:25.430 align:middle line:84%
moves along the strain,
what's the lower limit?

00:35:25.430 --> 00:35:28.630 align:middle line:84%
I guess the [INAUDIBLE] what's
the fastest these things move?

00:35:28.630 --> 00:35:30.130 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: So
what's the fastest

00:35:30.130 --> 00:35:32.140 align:middle line:90%
that gene can be transcribed?

00:35:32.140 --> 00:35:32.950 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Yeah.

00:35:32.950 --> 00:35:36.370 align:middle line:84%
I mean because you've got the
first transcription complex

00:35:36.370 --> 00:35:37.823 align:middle line:90%
just move out of the way.

00:35:37.823 --> 00:35:38.906 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Absolutely.

00:35:38.906 --> 00:35:39.610 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, exactly.

00:35:39.610 --> 00:35:42.287 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:35:42.287 --> 00:35:44.620 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: You could
probably do the math and figure

00:35:44.620 --> 00:35:45.490 align:middle line:90%
this out, OK?

00:35:45.490 --> 00:35:45.580 align:middle line:90%


00:35:45.580 --> 00:35:46.760 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I think that's
a great project, actually.

00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:47.170 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Right.

00:35:47.170 --> 00:35:47.670 align:middle line:90%
So--

00:35:47.670 --> 00:35:48.687 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Helps with a--

00:35:48.687 --> 00:35:49.270 align:middle line:90%
no, seriously.

00:35:49.270 --> 00:35:49.660 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Absolutely.

00:35:49.660 --> 00:35:50.743 align:middle line:90%
You can model this, right?

00:35:50.743 --> 00:35:50.842 align:middle line:90%


00:35:50.842 --> 00:35:53.217 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] a sound
basis understand everything

00:35:53.217 --> 00:35:57.280 align:middle line:84%
we know about the initiation
of the [? transcriptual ?]

00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:58.810 align:middle line:84%
site and moving
on and the letting

00:35:58.810 --> 00:36:00.970 align:middle line:84%
go, all the things
that have to happen.

00:36:00.970 --> 00:36:04.060 align:middle line:84%
And there are quite
detailed documentations

00:36:04.060 --> 00:36:06.530 align:middle line:84%
of the [? characteristics ?]
and processes.

00:36:06.530 --> 00:36:10.002 align:middle line:84%
What is the upper bound for
transcription and translation?

00:36:10.002 --> 00:36:12.460 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Well, basically,
the model, the whole thing,

00:36:12.460 --> 00:36:14.050 align:middle line:90%
is a pipe or a channel.

00:36:14.050 --> 00:36:16.870 align:middle line:84%
And I already told you
the length of this thing,

00:36:16.870 --> 00:36:19.120 align:middle line:84%
how long it takes
to make dystrophin.

00:36:19.120 --> 00:36:22.265 align:middle line:84%
You just have to model how
fast I can put the next one in.

00:36:22.265 --> 00:36:23.860 align:middle line:84%
You might be able
to model it based

00:36:23.860 --> 00:36:27.430 align:middle line:84%
on just looking at the size
of the polymerase and maybe

00:36:27.430 --> 00:36:29.248 align:middle line:84%
how many base pairs
it's covering up.

00:36:29.248 --> 00:36:30.790 align:middle line:84%
Maybe it's got to
move out of the way

00:36:30.790 --> 00:36:32.123 align:middle line:90%
before the next one can come in.

00:36:32.123 --> 00:36:34.040 align:middle line:84%
You can model it just
like that, for example.

00:36:34.040 --> 00:36:35.320 align:middle line:84%
It would be quite
interesting to see

00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.270 align:middle line:84%
how that matches up with
the actual published

00:36:37.270 --> 00:36:39.340 align:middle line:90%
numbers for it.

00:36:39.340 --> 00:36:41.600 align:middle line:84%
My bet is that's probably
still not the rate

00:36:41.600 --> 00:36:42.850 align:middle line:90%
limiting step in this process.

00:36:42.850 --> 00:36:44.350 align:middle line:84%
That's another
interesting question.

00:36:44.350 --> 00:36:46.763 align:middle line:90%
What's the slow part here?

00:36:46.763 --> 00:36:47.680 align:middle line:90%
I'm not actually sure.

00:36:47.680 --> 00:36:49.650 align:middle line:84%
It probably depends on
the genes, actually.

00:36:49.650 --> 00:36:51.400 align:middle line:84%
There are some genes
that are only-- there

00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:55.660 align:middle line:84%
are some important proteins that
are only 10 amino acids long.

00:36:55.660 --> 00:36:59.380 align:middle line:84%
Insulin, for example, is
one with 50 amino acids.

00:36:59.380 --> 00:37:02.990 align:middle line:84%
So some of those can be
spit out pretty quick.

00:37:02.990 --> 00:37:06.010 align:middle line:84%
And then you got some that are
huge like dystrophin and titin,

00:37:06.010 --> 00:37:08.020 align:middle line:90%
some of these others.

00:37:08.020 --> 00:37:10.480 align:middle line:90%
Any other questions so far?

00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:15.000 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] in
terms of [INAUDIBLE],, what

00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.780 align:middle line:90%
in terms of bind [INAUDIBLE]?

00:37:16.780 --> 00:37:18.530 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: So
again, remember, there's

00:37:18.530 --> 00:37:20.120 align:middle line:90%
no nice line there.

00:37:20.120 --> 00:37:21.510 align:middle line:90%
It's got to be in the sequence.

00:37:21.510 --> 00:37:23.120 align:middle line:84%
So there are specific
sequences that

00:37:23.120 --> 00:37:26.030 align:middle line:84%
are known to be
intron-exon boundaries,

00:37:26.030 --> 00:37:28.130 align:middle line:90%
but clearly they're not 100%.

00:37:28.130 --> 00:37:30.380 align:middle line:84%
Because in other cells,
that same sequence

00:37:30.380 --> 00:37:32.600 align:middle line:84%
might result in
another transcript.

00:37:32.600 --> 00:37:34.910 align:middle line:84%
So there are
intron-exon boundaries

00:37:34.910 --> 00:37:38.120 align:middle line:84%
about the start of the intron
and the end of the intron.

00:37:38.120 --> 00:37:40.737 align:middle line:84%
And it turns out one end of
it complements the other side.

00:37:40.737 --> 00:37:42.320 align:middle line:84%
So these things are
actually taken out

00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.935 align:middle line:90%
in a loop type of form.

00:37:44.935 --> 00:37:46.310 align:middle line:84%
So the thing that
cuts this thing

00:37:46.310 --> 00:37:48.653 align:middle line:84%
out lines up the
mRNA in such a way

00:37:48.653 --> 00:37:51.320 align:middle line:84%
that's able to put the start and
end together and just basically

00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.660 align:middle line:84%
snip the whole
thing out like that.

00:37:53.660 --> 00:37:57.300 align:middle line:84%
I can refer you to pictures
in the genome exactly on this.

00:37:57.300 --> 00:37:58.460 align:middle line:90%
But again, it's not 100%.

00:37:58.460 --> 00:38:00.800 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
like GA, for instance,

00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.230 align:middle line:84%
is one of the dinucleotides
that sometimes

00:38:03.230 --> 00:38:08.840 align:middle line:90%
initiates the splicing complex.

00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:11.045 align:middle line:84%
But often it
doesn't, meaning it's

00:38:11.045 --> 00:38:13.310 align:middle line:90%
a very common dinucleotide.

00:38:13.310 --> 00:38:19.880 align:middle line:84%
So [INAUDIBLE] the syntax that
determines the splicing is not

00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:20.760 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE].

00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.160 align:middle line:84%
So we have some heuristics
which work some of the time.

00:38:25.160 --> 00:38:28.500 align:middle line:84%
We have not reverse
engineered [INAUDIBLE]

00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:30.380 align:middle line:90%
the alternative splicing code.

00:38:30.380 --> 00:38:31.880 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: You
think about this.

00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:35.000 align:middle line:84%
This is a massive decryption
effort in the end.

00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.160 align:middle line:84%
All we have are the
As, Ts, Cs, and Gs.

00:38:37.160 --> 00:38:39.890 align:middle line:84%
One level of coding
is the triplet codon

00:38:39.890 --> 00:38:42.440 align:middle line:84%
for the amino acids, but
another more interesting one

00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:43.968 align:middle line:90%
is the grammar here.

00:38:43.968 --> 00:38:45.260 align:middle line:90%
Where is the start of the gene?

00:38:45.260 --> 00:38:45.980 align:middle line:90%
Where is the end of the gene?

00:38:45.980 --> 00:38:46.580 align:middle line:90%
When do I splice it?

00:38:46.580 --> 00:38:47.663 align:middle line:90%
And when do I splice that?

00:38:47.663 --> 00:38:50.750 align:middle line:84%
What are all the transcriptional
regulatory elements?

00:38:50.750 --> 00:38:52.602 align:middle line:90%
That's the Holy Grail here.

00:38:52.602 --> 00:38:53.560 align:middle line:90%
That is the Holy Grail.

00:38:53.560 --> 00:38:56.630 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]?

00:38:56.630 --> 00:38:58.157 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: We know those.

00:38:58.157 --> 00:38:59.990 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: But it doesn't
always work either.

00:38:59.990 --> 00:39:00.920 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Absolutely.

00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:01.430 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:39:01.430 --> 00:39:02.180 align:middle line:90%
So I'll give you--

00:39:02.180 --> 00:39:04.130 align:middle line:90%
I'll tell you exactly why.

00:39:04.130 --> 00:39:07.320 align:middle line:84%
The code for the start, there's
only one code for start,

00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.880 align:middle line:84%
AUG, but there's
three codes to stop.

00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:14.360 align:middle line:84%
It turns out one of
the codes to stop,

00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:18.560 align:middle line:84%
if there's another code
100 base pairs later,

00:39:18.560 --> 00:39:22.500 align:middle line:90%
that makes the 21st amino acid.

00:39:22.500 --> 00:39:25.000 align:middle line:84%
So in other words, you can't
even just look at the triplets.

00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.525 align:middle line:84%
It's in the context
of other things, too.

00:39:27.525 --> 00:39:30.040 align:middle line:90%
It makes things messy again.

00:39:30.040 --> 00:39:32.290 align:middle line:84%
It's so nice and neat
with just triplet codons.

00:39:32.290 --> 00:39:35.590 align:middle line:84%
But that stop plus something
else 100 base pairs later

00:39:35.590 --> 00:39:41.000 align:middle line:84%
gives, actually, the 21st
amino acid, selenocysteine.

00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:42.990 align:middle line:90%
That's life, messy.

00:39:42.990 --> 00:39:45.110 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So people
discovered the selenocysteine.

00:39:45.110 --> 00:39:46.860 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: People
for the life of them

00:39:46.860 --> 00:39:47.860 align:middle line:90%
couldn't figure out why.

00:39:47.860 --> 00:39:50.300 align:middle line:84%
How are you making
selenocysteine proteins?

00:39:50.300 --> 00:39:52.760 align:middle line:84%
There's only four in
humans, one of which

00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:54.650 align:middle line:84%
is involved in
the thyroid, which

00:39:54.650 --> 00:39:56.900 align:middle line:84%
is why a whole bunch of
endocrinologists look at this.

00:39:56.900 --> 00:40:01.340 align:middle line:84%
It metabolizes thyroid hormone
into one form to another,

00:40:01.340 --> 00:40:05.810 align:middle line:90%
thyroxine to triiodothyronine.

00:40:05.810 --> 00:40:07.553 align:middle line:84%
That enzyme has
a selenocysteine.

00:40:07.553 --> 00:40:08.970 align:middle line:84%
And people couldn't
figure out why

00:40:08.970 --> 00:40:11.000 align:middle line:84%
it was coding for
selenocysteine because it

00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:12.870 align:middle line:90%
looked like a stop codon their.

00:40:12.870 --> 00:40:14.870 align:middle line:84%
Well, you could start to
figure these things out

00:40:14.870 --> 00:40:16.345 align:middle line:84%
once you have the
whole genome now.

00:40:16.345 --> 00:40:17.720 align:middle line:84%
You can look at
these exceptions.

00:40:17.720 --> 00:40:25.070 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
the function

00:40:25.070 --> 00:40:26.925 align:middle line:90%
of [INAUDIBLE] mice and humans.

00:40:26.925 --> 00:40:28.400 align:middle line:90%
What [INAUDIBLE]?

00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.650 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: OK,
let's be very specific.

00:40:30.650 --> 00:40:35.900 align:middle line:84%
The repeats code for a
protein that comes back,

00:40:35.900 --> 00:40:40.130 align:middle line:84%
looks for the sequence,
and actually integrates

00:40:40.130 --> 00:40:44.390 align:middle line:84%
the sequence somewhere
else in the genome.

00:40:44.390 --> 00:40:48.200 align:middle line:84%
It repeats code for
protein like any other gene

00:40:48.200 --> 00:40:50.480 align:middle line:84%
that finds its
sequence and puts it

00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.850 align:middle line:90%
in somewhere else in the genome.

00:40:52.850 --> 00:40:57.110 align:middle line:84%
But for that to happen the code
for the protein has to work.

00:40:57.110 --> 00:41:02.087 align:middle line:84%
If it's damaged beyond
repair, the thing can't work.

00:41:02.087 --> 00:41:03.420 align:middle line:90%
And sometimes it makes mistakes.

00:41:03.420 --> 00:41:04.872 align:middle line:90%
So the thing's coming back.

00:41:04.872 --> 00:41:05.580 align:middle line:90%
I made a protein.

00:41:05.580 --> 00:41:06.498 align:middle line:90%
It's coming back.

00:41:06.498 --> 00:41:08.040 align:middle line:84%
It's trying to make
a copy of itself.

00:41:08.040 --> 00:41:10.248 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes it grabs the wrong
thing to make a copy of.

00:41:10.248 --> 00:41:12.790 align:middle line:84%
So that's why we have copies of
lots of things in the genome.

00:41:12.790 --> 00:41:14.010 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:41:14.010 --> 00:41:16.972 align:middle line:90%


00:41:16.972 --> 00:41:18.180 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Good question.

00:41:18.180 --> 00:41:20.280 align:middle line:84%
It's able to recognize
its own sequence,

00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.535 align:middle line:90%
but it's not at all perfect.

00:41:23.535 --> 00:41:25.785 align:middle line:84%
But what we can say about
the difference between human

00:41:25.785 --> 00:41:29.160 align:middle line:84%
and mouse is that the
mouse has those sequences

00:41:29.160 --> 00:41:31.540 align:middle line:84%
for that protein, a
reverse transcriptase.

00:41:31.540 --> 00:41:35.010 align:middle line:84%
It has codes for it that
seem to be fully functional.

00:41:35.010 --> 00:41:38.550 align:middle line:84%
And in a human, there are none
that are still functional.

00:41:38.550 --> 00:41:40.920 align:middle line:90%
That's what we're saying.

00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.390 align:middle line:84%
It's very curious why
that is, this whole area

00:41:45.390 --> 00:41:49.578 align:middle line:84%
of genomic archaeology that
you can do with the genome now.

00:41:49.578 --> 00:41:51.120 align:middle line:84%
In fact, what Zach
was saying earlier

00:41:51.120 --> 00:41:54.750 align:middle line:84%
is that we have so many
millions of repeats

00:41:54.750 --> 00:41:58.260 align:middle line:84%
that we can look to see how
deviant they are from a working

00:41:58.260 --> 00:41:59.430 align:middle line:90%
copy.

00:41:59.430 --> 00:42:02.160 align:middle line:84%
And so we can age
each of the repeats.

00:42:02.160 --> 00:42:03.870 align:middle line:90%
This one's 40 million years old.

00:42:03.870 --> 00:42:05.350 align:middle line:90%
This one's 50 million years old.

00:42:05.350 --> 00:42:07.870 align:middle line:84%
Because if it's got four
places where it's different

00:42:07.870 --> 00:42:10.170 align:middle line:84%
and this one only has
two, the one with four

00:42:10.170 --> 00:42:12.960 align:middle line:84%
is probably older than
the one with two, right?

00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:16.417 align:middle line:84%
So like that, we can age
all of these repeats.

00:42:16.417 --> 00:42:18.000 align:middle line:84%
And it turns out a
whole bunch of them

00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.810 align:middle line:84%
were made at a certain point in
time and then they dropped off.

00:42:20.810 --> 00:42:21.810 align:middle line:90%
Again, no one knows why.

00:42:21.810 --> 00:42:23.280 align:middle line:84%
I'll show you the graph
in the second here.

00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:24.600 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So we can
assume that the genome is

00:42:24.600 --> 00:42:25.600 align:middle line:90%
growing all the time.

00:42:25.600 --> 00:42:29.128 align:middle line:84%
So the [INAUDIBLE]
much bigger than that.

00:42:29.128 --> 00:42:30.420 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Or smaller, too.

00:42:30.420 --> 00:42:33.210 align:middle line:84%
There's ways to get rid
of these things, too.

00:42:33.210 --> 00:42:36.100 align:middle line:84%
If you do too much damage,
the thing can't reproduce.

00:42:36.100 --> 00:42:36.940 align:middle line:90%
And that's it.

00:42:36.940 --> 00:42:38.590 align:middle line:90%
It's the end of the line.

00:42:38.590 --> 00:42:41.400 align:middle line:84%
The most mind blowing thing
that the Genome Project has

00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:44.250 align:middle line:84%
done for me personally
is that, now, I

00:42:44.250 --> 00:42:48.180 align:middle line:84%
realize there's only one
life form on this planet.

00:42:48.180 --> 00:42:49.680 align:middle line:90%
It's DNA.

00:42:49.680 --> 00:42:52.913 align:middle line:84%
Everything else
is a side effect.

00:42:52.913 --> 00:42:55.080 align:middle line:84%
That DNA is doing everything
it can to actually keep

00:42:55.080 --> 00:42:56.850 align:middle line:90%
its code going.

00:42:56.850 --> 00:42:57.870 align:middle line:90%
That's all there's is.

00:42:57.870 --> 00:42:59.078 align:middle line:90%
There's a great book called--

00:42:59.078 --> 00:43:00.210 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: The Self Machine.

00:43:00.210 --> 00:43:01.140 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: The Self
Machine, of course,

00:43:01.140 --> 00:43:03.640 align:middle line:84%
but there's also a more recent
one called-- it's on genomes.

00:43:03.640 --> 00:43:07.260 align:middle line:90%
It's a paperback.

00:43:07.260 --> 00:43:09.780 align:middle line:84%
The Autobiography of a
Genome I think it's called.

00:43:09.780 --> 00:43:10.807 align:middle line:90%
It's like 23 chapters.

00:43:10.807 --> 00:43:13.140 align:middle line:84%
And basically, they just pick
one gene from each chapter

00:43:13.140 --> 00:43:13.785 align:middle line:90%
and make a story.

00:43:13.785 --> 00:43:14.130 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Oh, yes.

00:43:14.130 --> 00:43:14.910 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE:
It's a great book.

00:43:14.910 --> 00:43:15.952 align:middle line:90%
I recommend reading that.

00:43:15.952 --> 00:43:17.613 align:middle line:90%
It's a lay kind of reading.

00:43:17.613 --> 00:43:18.780 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Yeah, [INAUDIBLE].

00:43:18.780 --> 00:43:20.160 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: It was on a
bestseller list for a while.

00:43:20.160 --> 00:43:21.118 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: That's right.

00:43:21.118 --> 00:43:25.610 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Autobiography of
a Genome I think it's called,

00:43:25.610 --> 00:43:26.854 align:middle line:90%
something like that.

00:43:26.854 --> 00:43:28.813 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:43:28.813 --> 00:43:30.480 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Some
chapters were harder

00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.313 align:middle line:84%
to write than others,
I think, for this guy.

00:43:32.313 --> 00:43:34.245 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:43:34.245 --> 00:43:38.325 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: It's just a question
about [INAUDIBLE] age,

00:43:38.325 --> 00:43:42.090 align:middle line:90%
you know, and aging [INAUDIBLE].

00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:48.450 align:middle line:84%
Given that you can pretty
much get rid of or add to or--

00:43:48.450 --> 00:43:51.090 align:middle line:84%
it seems like dating
genes according

00:43:51.090 --> 00:43:54.810 align:middle line:84%
to [INAUDIBLE]
number of mutations

00:43:54.810 --> 00:43:56.190 align:middle line:90%
against mutation frequency.

00:43:56.190 --> 00:44:02.890 align:middle line:84%
And it seems kind of invalid
now that we know that there are

00:44:02.890 --> 00:44:03.513 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE].

00:44:03.513 --> 00:44:05.680 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Are you saying
that because of these kinds

00:44:05.680 --> 00:44:11.380 align:middle line:84%
of influences just
looking at, let's say,

00:44:11.380 --> 00:44:13.690 align:middle line:84%
the refresh rate of
synonymous substitutions

00:44:13.690 --> 00:44:16.090 align:middle line:84%
versus non-synonymous
substitutions,

00:44:16.090 --> 00:44:19.610 align:middle line:90%
it's not a good clock anymore?

00:44:19.610 --> 00:44:21.070 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: I guess.

00:44:21.070 --> 00:44:22.480 align:middle line:90%
I guess I'm doing--

00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.735 align:middle line:84%
what I'm driving at
is it seems like one

00:44:25.735 --> 00:44:29.485 align:middle line:84%
of the main-- one of the
underlying points that you've

00:44:29.485 --> 00:44:32.890 align:middle line:84%
been making is that
there's a lot of change

00:44:32.890 --> 00:44:35.170 align:middle line:84%
and a lot of mistakes
that can be introduced

00:44:35.170 --> 00:44:37.690 align:middle line:84%
from a variety of
sources, none of which

00:44:37.690 --> 00:44:41.200 align:middle line:84%
have to be all that
magnificent or catastrophic.

00:44:41.200 --> 00:44:43.810 align:middle line:90%
It's every day types of things.

00:44:43.810 --> 00:44:48.730 align:middle line:84%
And yet, on the other hand,
when we're talking about,

00:44:48.730 --> 00:44:50.605 align:middle line:84%
well, this gene's
probably over because it

00:44:50.605 --> 00:44:51.995 align:middle line:90%
has four mutations, not two--

00:44:51.995 --> 00:44:52.870 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Right.

00:44:52.870 --> 00:44:54.170 align:middle line:90%
It's all based on--

00:44:54.170 --> 00:44:55.280 align:middle line:90%
that's a great point.

00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:58.570 align:middle line:84%
We can age these things because
we think we know models.

00:44:58.570 --> 00:45:03.850 align:middle line:84%
So given a fixed rate of
nucleotide substitution

00:45:03.850 --> 00:45:06.220 align:middle line:84%
where people have tried to
calculate numbers for that,

00:45:06.220 --> 00:45:07.300 align:middle line:90%
we can make a premise.

00:45:07.300 --> 00:45:09.970 align:middle line:84%
But if that's not true,
then it's not going to hold.

00:45:09.970 --> 00:45:11.800 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So first, if
you have a transpose

00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:14.530 align:middle line:84%
that on the [? box ?] right in
the middle of the gene, then

00:45:14.530 --> 00:45:16.900 align:middle line:84%
that would be
invalid when you look

00:45:16.900 --> 00:45:19.130 align:middle line:84%
at the rate of the mutation
processing [INAUDIBLE]..

00:45:19.130 --> 00:45:21.100 align:middle line:90%
It got a new puzzle.

00:45:21.100 --> 00:45:23.740 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE] like a new
to maybe kind of compare.

00:45:23.740 --> 00:45:26.515 align:middle line:84%
The model [? is wrong. ?] But
if you have a stretch, I mean--

00:45:26.515 --> 00:45:27.390 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Right.

00:45:27.390 --> 00:45:29.723 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: --a stretch, it's
more or less the same except

00:45:29.723 --> 00:45:32.650 align:middle line:84%
for some [INAUDIBLE],,
then a lot of these--

00:45:32.650 --> 00:45:36.850 align:middle line:84%
not catastrophic, but more
violent changes has to happen.

00:45:36.850 --> 00:45:39.220 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: It's all
a matter of time scales.

00:45:39.220 --> 00:45:41.320 align:middle line:84%
These things are making
copies of themselves

00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:44.090 align:middle line:90%
over millions of years.

00:45:44.090 --> 00:45:46.420 align:middle line:84%
It's not a day to day
kind of thing at all.

00:45:46.420 --> 00:45:49.930 align:middle line:84%
The cell in my lung can
make a copy of itself

00:45:49.930 --> 00:45:51.700 align:middle line:84%
and move it somewhere
in the genome.

00:45:51.700 --> 00:45:53.660 align:middle line:84%
On the grand scheme
of things, who cares?

00:45:53.660 --> 00:45:55.180 align:middle line:90%
It's not in my sperm cells.

00:45:55.180 --> 00:45:57.160 align:middle line:90%
It's not going to go on.

00:45:57.160 --> 00:45:59.650 align:middle line:84%
So it's got to happen in the
right cell at the right time.

00:45:59.650 --> 00:46:01.192 align:middle line:84%
Across millions of
years these things

00:46:01.192 --> 00:46:02.980 align:middle line:84%
are happening when
you think about it.

00:46:02.980 --> 00:46:04.565 align:middle line:84%
It's got to be in
the right cell, too.

00:46:04.565 --> 00:46:06.940 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: When you look at
the [INAUDIBLE] between genes,

00:46:06.940 --> 00:46:10.360 align:middle line:84%
is there anything to say that
the rate of the mutations

00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:13.487 align:middle line:84%
would be about the same
all regions of [INAUDIBLE]??

00:46:13.487 --> 00:46:14.320 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Yeah.

00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.195 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Actually, one
of [INAUDIBLE] study.

00:46:16.195 --> 00:46:17.080 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:46:17.080 --> 00:46:19.705 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Yeah, I think the
rates are definitely different

00:46:19.705 --> 00:46:22.900 align:middle line:84%
between different regions only
because some of these processes

00:46:22.900 --> 00:46:25.060 align:middle line:90%
have different rates.

00:46:25.060 --> 00:46:27.670 align:middle line:84%
Remember the banding pattern
I showed you in the AT-rich?

00:46:27.670 --> 00:46:30.970 align:middle line:84%
That corresponds to what regions
are rich in AT and rich in GC.

00:46:30.970 --> 00:46:33.700 align:middle line:84%
Some processes occur at
different rates between them

00:46:33.700 --> 00:46:35.935 align:middle line:84%
because there are
tighter bonds there.

00:46:35.935 --> 00:46:37.288 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:46:37.288 --> 00:46:38.830 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: It
might, but we don't

00:46:38.830 --> 00:46:39.580 align:middle line:90%
have anywhere to model it.

00:46:39.580 --> 00:46:40.090 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: That we don't know.

00:46:40.090 --> 00:46:41.410 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: We don't
have any way to model it.

00:46:41.410 --> 00:46:44.080 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
when the genome was first

00:46:44.080 --> 00:46:48.580 align:middle line:84%
presented in 2000 with
[INAUDIBLE],, people [INAUDIBLE]

00:46:48.580 --> 00:46:50.920 align:middle line:84%
stopped seeing the
genes in junk DNA.

00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.950 align:middle line:84%
But if you look at
the plate of sequences

00:46:53.950 --> 00:46:59.800 align:middle line:84%
from [INAUDIBLE] of DNA from
[INAUDIBLE] phylogenetic tree,

00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:02.170 align:middle line:84%
the percentages
are quite similar

00:47:02.170 --> 00:47:04.090 align:middle line:90%
for the intergenic region.

00:47:04.090 --> 00:47:06.820 align:middle line:84%
That's what the [INAUDIBLE]
region tells us.

00:47:06.820 --> 00:47:11.260 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE] speaking,
this stuff is important

00:47:11.260 --> 00:47:16.720 align:middle line:84%
whether it is to keep selfishly
some [INAUDIBLE] to survive

00:47:16.720 --> 00:47:19.000 align:middle line:84%
or because it's actually
necessary to the organism's

00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:19.973 align:middle line:90%
function.

00:47:19.973 --> 00:47:21.890 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Let me
just show this one slide

00:47:21.890 --> 00:47:24.140 align:middle line:84%
because you're asking so
many questions about repeats.

00:47:24.140 --> 00:47:25.580 align:middle line:84%
And this sort of
summarizes a lot.

00:47:25.580 --> 00:47:29.238 align:middle line:84%
So 3 million repeat copies
started as working elements.

00:47:29.238 --> 00:47:30.530 align:middle line:90%
That's how they can model this.

00:47:30.530 --> 00:47:33.650 align:middle line:84%
There's 3 million
repeats in the genome.

00:47:33.650 --> 00:47:39.590 align:middle line:84%
So measure how far are they away
from a working copy of them.

00:47:39.590 --> 00:47:41.480 align:middle line:84%
Because through time,
these mutations just

00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:43.910 align:middle line:84%
happen randomly presumably
at a fixed rate,

00:47:43.910 --> 00:47:46.070 align:middle line:90%
but not necessarily so.

00:47:46.070 --> 00:47:49.360 align:middle line:84%
Most of the repeats predate
the mammalian radiations,

00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:50.990 align:middle line:84%
so before mammals
were even formed.

00:47:50.990 --> 00:47:52.407 align:middle line:84%
Most of these
repeats are actually

00:47:52.407 --> 00:47:54.500 align:middle line:90%
older than that in the genomes.

00:47:54.500 --> 00:47:56.750 align:middle line:84%
But there's no evidence
for transposon activity

00:47:56.750 --> 00:47:58.910 align:middle line:84%
in the last 50 million
years since we've

00:47:58.910 --> 00:48:01.070 align:middle line:90%
diverged from monkeys.

00:48:01.070 --> 00:48:03.110 align:middle line:84%
None of these things
have been alive.

00:48:03.110 --> 00:48:07.010 align:middle line:84%
But they're still alive and
well in the mouse and the rat.

00:48:07.010 --> 00:48:07.895 align:middle line:90%
So not-- go ahead.

00:48:07.895 --> 00:48:08.770 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Is that it?

00:48:08.770 --> 00:48:10.710 align:middle line:84%
I mean, what's sort
of the breakdown

00:48:10.710 --> 00:48:12.800 align:middle line:90%
of how many species are still--

00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.763 align:middle line:84%
I mean are monkeys still doing
this or they're [INAUDIBLE]??

00:48:15.763 --> 00:48:17.430 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: I don't
think we know yet

00:48:17.430 --> 00:48:19.880 align:middle line:84%
because the monkey genomes
are just being finished now.

00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:23.515 align:middle line:84%
So we can better answer
this question every month.

00:48:23.515 --> 00:48:24.890 align:middle line:84%
By the end of this
course, you'll

00:48:24.890 --> 00:48:27.170 align:middle line:84%
be able to answer it better than
today because these genomes are

00:48:27.170 --> 00:48:27.773 align:middle line:90%
coming online.

00:48:27.773 --> 00:48:30.065 align:middle line:84%
Literally, this is just only
two years old information.

00:48:30.065 --> 00:48:31.085 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:48:31.085 --> 00:48:32.210 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: What's that?

00:48:32.210 --> 00:48:34.345 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Severely [INAUDIBLE].

00:48:34.345 --> 00:48:35.720 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE:
You're never going

00:48:35.720 --> 00:48:37.700 align:middle line:84%
to be done sequencing every
organism on the planet,

00:48:37.700 --> 00:48:40.033 align:middle line:84%
but I think we will have a
better estimate now than when

00:48:40.033 --> 00:48:41.960 align:middle line:84%
this paper came out if
you choose to do this.

00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:44.690 align:middle line:84%
Here's the graph that
I like to think of.

00:48:44.690 --> 00:48:46.940 align:middle line:84%
So the different bars
here, the different colors

00:48:46.940 --> 00:48:49.220 align:middle line:84%
represent the different
repeat elements.

00:48:49.220 --> 00:48:52.520 align:middle line:84%
The lines, the signs,
they're just different codes.

00:48:52.520 --> 00:48:55.310 align:middle line:84%
And here are less
than 1% substitution

00:48:55.310 --> 00:48:56.780 align:middle line:90%
from a working copy.

00:48:56.780 --> 00:48:59.720 align:middle line:84%
And here's 34% substitution
from working copy.

00:48:59.720 --> 00:49:01.790 align:middle line:84%
And you can read that
as millions of years

00:49:01.790 --> 00:49:05.100 align:middle line:84%
basically, going back
hundreds of millions of years.

00:49:05.100 --> 00:49:08.810 align:middle line:84%
And you can see at 7%
substitution there's a peak.

00:49:08.810 --> 00:49:11.420 align:middle line:84%
And then it drops and then a
slight peak, and then it drops.

00:49:11.420 --> 00:49:13.070 align:middle line:90%
So these aren't fixed at all.

00:49:13.070 --> 00:49:16.130 align:middle line:84%
It makes you wonder what
happened on the planet

00:49:16.130 --> 00:49:18.920 align:middle line:90%
at this point and in evolution.

00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:20.660 align:middle line:84%
Why were all of
these things alive,

00:49:20.660 --> 00:49:22.340 align:middle line:84%
for example, then
all of a sudden

00:49:22.340 --> 00:49:24.740 align:middle line:90%
they died off down to zero?

00:49:24.740 --> 00:49:27.650 align:middle line:84%
So it's amazing when you think
about that only because they

00:49:27.650 --> 00:49:28.970 align:middle line:90%
model these as working copies.

00:49:28.970 --> 00:49:31.910 align:middle line:84%
And how do they diverge
from those working copies?

00:49:31.910 --> 00:49:32.660 align:middle line:90%
It's fascinating.

00:49:32.660 --> 00:49:36.530 align:middle line:84%
Genomic archaeology, this was
not a field three years ago.

00:49:36.530 --> 00:49:39.872 align:middle line:90%


00:49:39.872 --> 00:49:41.330 align:middle line:84%
The relevance in
medicine still has

00:49:41.330 --> 00:49:43.913 align:middle line:84%
to be determined, though, which
is why we're going to move on.

00:49:43.913 --> 00:49:49.400 align:middle line:90%


00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.318 align:middle line:84%
OK, so I've got about
20 minutes left.

00:49:51.318 --> 00:49:53.360 align:middle line:84%
Let's see how much of gene
measurement techniques

00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:54.100 align:middle line:90%
I can cover here.

00:49:54.100 --> 00:49:55.190 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:49:55.190 --> 00:49:56.940 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: I'm
going till 2:00, right?

00:49:56.940 --> 00:49:57.650 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:49:57.650 --> 00:49:59.610 align:middle line:90%
Let's say 30 minutes.

00:49:59.610 --> 00:50:01.880 align:middle line:84%
So the gene measurement
techniques I'm going to talk

00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.040 align:middle line:84%
about today are-- well,
one's how do we measure DNA?

00:50:05.040 --> 00:50:06.110 align:middle line:90%
How do we measure RNA?

00:50:06.110 --> 00:50:08.455 align:middle line:90%
And how do we measure proteins?

00:50:08.455 --> 00:50:09.830 align:middle line:84%
If you can get
this, you're going

00:50:09.830 --> 00:50:13.560 align:middle line:84%
to know 95% of what you
need to in this area.

00:50:13.560 --> 00:50:14.700 align:middle line:90%
Let's start with DNA.

00:50:14.700 --> 00:50:18.140 align:middle line:84%
So DNA sequencing was
invented back in the mid-'70s.

00:50:18.140 --> 00:50:21.180 align:middle line:84%
And when we measure DNA,
we're sequencing it.

00:50:21.180 --> 00:50:24.170 align:middle line:84%
So we want to know the
sequence of As, Gs, Ts, and Cs.

00:50:24.170 --> 00:50:26.540 align:middle line:84%
And so how did we get all 3
and 1/2 billion base pairs--

00:50:26.540 --> 00:50:29.450 align:middle line:84%
basically, just slightly
more automated ways than what

00:50:29.450 --> 00:50:31.260 align:middle line:90%
I'm going to show you here.

00:50:31.260 --> 00:50:34.430 align:middle line:84%
So what you can do is, if
you have a DNA sample--

00:50:34.430 --> 00:50:36.770 align:middle line:84%
remember, it's As,
Gs, Ts, and Cs--

00:50:36.770 --> 00:50:40.020 align:middle line:84%
we have tools to
make copies of them.

00:50:40.020 --> 00:50:42.860 align:middle line:84%
In fact, we can borrow the
enzymes that the cell uses.

00:50:42.860 --> 00:50:45.530 align:middle line:84%
And in a test tube, I can
take my As, Gs, Ts, and Cs

00:50:45.530 --> 00:50:47.480 align:middle line:90%
and make copies of them.

00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:49.700 align:middle line:84%
The process of making
copies is a technique

00:50:49.700 --> 00:50:52.160 align:middle line:84%
called Polymerase
Chain Reaction, or PCR.

00:50:52.160 --> 00:50:55.887 align:middle line:84%
All PCR does is make copies
of things and amplify them.

00:50:55.887 --> 00:50:57.470 align:middle line:84%
If you have one, you
make it into two.

00:50:57.470 --> 00:50:58.580 align:middle line:90%
Then those two become four.

00:50:58.580 --> 00:50:59.660 align:middle line:90%
Four become eight, et cetera.

00:50:59.660 --> 00:51:02.243 align:middle line:84%
And it grows to be pretty big,
something that you can actually

00:51:02.243 --> 00:51:03.470 align:middle line:90%
visualize.

00:51:03.470 --> 00:51:07.550 align:middle line:84%
So now, basically the way
this technique works is this.

00:51:07.550 --> 00:51:13.550 align:middle line:84%
As I'm making a copy
of one strand of DNA,

00:51:13.550 --> 00:51:16.200 align:middle line:90%
let's stop the reaction.

00:51:16.200 --> 00:51:19.410 align:middle line:84%
So as I'm making a copy-- let's
say I have 100 base pairs.

00:51:19.410 --> 00:51:20.870 align:middle line:90%
Let's stop the reaction.

00:51:20.870 --> 00:51:24.020 align:middle line:84%
And I stopped it after I have
a whole bunch of copies going.

00:51:24.020 --> 00:51:27.320 align:middle line:84%
So some of the copies are going
to be 50 when I stopped it.

00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:28.600 align:middle line:90%
Some are going to be 99.

00:51:28.600 --> 00:51:29.600 align:middle line:90%
Some are going to be 98.

00:51:29.600 --> 00:51:30.600 align:middle line:90%
Some are going to be 97.

00:51:30.600 --> 00:51:33.770 align:middle line:84%
So I'm going to have a whole
variety of lengths of copies

00:51:33.770 --> 00:51:35.830 align:middle line:90%
of that gene of that sequence.

00:51:35.830 --> 00:51:37.910 align:middle line:90%
It might not even be a gene.

00:51:37.910 --> 00:51:42.295 align:middle line:84%
So then let's start it up
again, but the last base pair

00:51:42.295 --> 00:51:43.670 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to add
to that copy I'm

00:51:43.670 --> 00:51:46.430 align:middle line:90%
going to make a fluorescent.

00:51:46.430 --> 00:51:49.310 align:middle line:84%
And we'll make it fluorescent
in such a way that I'm

00:51:49.310 --> 00:51:52.700 align:middle line:84%
going to make four colors,
one color for A, one for T,

00:51:52.700 --> 00:51:56.540 align:middle line:84%
one for C, one for
G. So I have four

00:51:56.540 --> 00:51:59.420 align:middle line:84%
different fluorescent colors
that I could incorporate

00:51:59.420 --> 00:52:02.360 align:middle line:84%
into the nucleotide, the last
nucleotide I'm going to put

00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.440 align:middle line:90%
on this particular sequence.

00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.190 align:middle line:84%
So now, I have a whole
variety of lengths,

00:52:07.190 --> 00:52:10.730 align:middle line:84%
and the last base pair might
be a fluorescent color.

00:52:10.730 --> 00:52:14.210 align:middle line:84%
Then what I can do is I can
put that whole mix of length

00:52:14.210 --> 00:52:16.460 align:middle line:90%
of DNAs and put them in a gel.

00:52:16.460 --> 00:52:19.640 align:middle line:84%
I want to actually activate
an electric current.

00:52:19.640 --> 00:52:22.460 align:middle line:84%
The DNA starts to
fall because DNA gets

00:52:22.460 --> 00:52:24.680 align:middle line:90%
pulled based on its charge.

00:52:24.680 --> 00:52:27.740 align:middle line:84%
But as you would guess,
the smaller sequences

00:52:27.740 --> 00:52:29.960 align:middle line:84%
get pulled faster
because it's easier

00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:31.670 align:middle line:90%
to move than the larger ones.

00:52:31.670 --> 00:52:35.570 align:middle line:84%
Even by one base pair you
can separate them this way.

00:52:35.570 --> 00:52:36.950 align:middle line:90%
It's called gel electrophoresis.

00:52:36.950 --> 00:52:39.770 align:middle line:84%
That's why a one base pair
difference we can see on a gel

00:52:39.770 --> 00:52:42.148 align:middle line:84%
depending on the charge and
all of this kind of thing.

00:52:42.148 --> 00:52:43.940 align:middle line:84%
So then what you do is
you put a laser down

00:52:43.940 --> 00:52:45.120 align:middle line:90%
at the bottom of the gel.

00:52:45.120 --> 00:52:47.480 align:middle line:84%
So it used to be
we'd run the gel out.

00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:49.910 align:middle line:84%
And if it went off
past the end, you'd

00:52:49.910 --> 00:52:52.610 align:middle line:84%
swear because you just
ruined your sequence.

00:52:52.610 --> 00:52:53.180 align:middle line:90%
You lost it.

00:52:53.180 --> 00:52:55.070 align:middle line:84%
It's in the puddle at
the bottom of the gel.

00:52:55.070 --> 00:52:58.400 align:middle line:84%
But now, we want it to happen
this way because we set up

00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:01.850 align:middle line:84%
a laser at the end that
excites whatever fluorescent

00:53:01.850 --> 00:53:03.740 align:middle line:90%
is coming down there.

00:53:03.740 --> 00:53:06.980 align:middle line:84%
And depending on the color,
we can just read it off.

00:53:06.980 --> 00:53:08.090 align:middle line:90%
Oh, here's a red peak.

00:53:08.090 --> 00:53:08.990 align:middle line:90%
Here's a blue peak.

00:53:08.990 --> 00:53:12.230 align:middle line:90%
Here's a green peak.

00:53:12.230 --> 00:53:14.090 align:middle line:84%
So we have a whole
bunch of these peaks,

00:53:14.090 --> 00:53:16.100 align:middle line:90%
and then software looks at this.

00:53:16.100 --> 00:53:18.560 align:middle line:84%
In fact, the most commonly
used software for this

00:53:18.560 --> 00:53:21.410 align:middle line:84%
is something called phrap and
phred, which is an open source,

00:53:21.410 --> 00:53:22.520 align:middle line:90%
freely available program.

00:53:22.520 --> 00:53:23.937 align:middle line:84%
People don't even
use the software

00:53:23.937 --> 00:53:24.980 align:middle line:90%
that came with the thing.

00:53:24.980 --> 00:53:27.350 align:middle line:84%
They wrote their own,
and it's open source.

00:53:27.350 --> 00:53:29.990 align:middle line:84%
It looks at the peaks,
and then makes the call.

00:53:29.990 --> 00:53:31.100 align:middle line:90%
I see this peak here.

00:53:31.100 --> 00:53:32.780 align:middle line:84%
I think it's a G. I
see this peak here.

00:53:32.780 --> 00:53:35.810 align:middle line:84%
I think it's a C.
There's going to be

00:53:35.810 --> 00:53:37.610 align:middle line:90%
immediate problems with this.

00:53:37.610 --> 00:53:41.330 align:middle line:84%
First, despite how
fancy this looks,

00:53:41.330 --> 00:53:45.300 align:middle line:84%
we still can't do more than
300 base pairs with this.

00:53:45.300 --> 00:53:48.170 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
some flaws related

00:53:48.170 --> 00:53:50.132 align:middle line:90%
to the size of the [INAUDIBLE].

00:53:50.132 --> 00:53:51.590 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: They
all, in theory,

00:53:51.590 --> 00:53:55.280 align:middle line:84%
should be just one
base pair apart,

00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:57.240 align:middle line:84%
but there's all
sorts of reasons.

00:53:57.240 --> 00:53:58.700 align:middle line:84%
So why are they
some jumbled here

00:53:58.700 --> 00:54:00.170 align:middle line:84%
and some they're
spaced out here?

00:54:00.170 --> 00:54:02.360 align:middle line:90%
As you let the thing go--

00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:04.247 align:middle line:84%
it's not a linear
thing, the spacing.

00:54:04.247 --> 00:54:06.080 align:middle line:84%
So as you let it go,
it gets wider and wider

00:54:06.080 --> 00:54:07.260 align:middle line:90%
and wider in general.

00:54:07.260 --> 00:54:11.780 align:middle line:84%
But sometimes the copying
process itself can have errors.

00:54:11.780 --> 00:54:12.690 align:middle line:90%
Let me be clear.

00:54:12.690 --> 00:54:14.150 align:middle line:84%
If the sequence
I'm starting with

00:54:14.150 --> 00:54:16.220 align:middle line:84%
has a whole bunch
of Gs in a row,

00:54:16.220 --> 00:54:17.840 align:middle line:90%
sometimes it gets confused.

00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:20.840 align:middle line:84%
And it just happens to
make one the wrong length.

00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.750 align:middle line:84%
So if I have a lot of
repeats, in the sequence

00:54:23.750 --> 00:54:26.960 align:middle line:84%
I'm trying to sequence,
I'm going to have problems.

00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.260 align:middle line:84%
And I just told you 50%
of the genome is repeats.

00:54:30.260 --> 00:54:31.265 align:middle line:90%
It's not easy.

00:54:31.265 --> 00:54:32.507 align:middle line:90%


00:54:32.507 --> 00:54:34.340 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Different
sequences might actually

00:54:34.340 --> 00:54:36.410 align:middle line:84%
have different proficiencies
in these reactions.

00:54:36.410 --> 00:54:37.243 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Yeah.

00:54:37.243 --> 00:54:39.807 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: And so that might
cause some slight shifts.

00:54:39.807 --> 00:54:41.390 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: But
basically, we can't

00:54:41.390 --> 00:54:45.352 align:middle line:84%
do more than 300 to 400 base
pairs than this, beyond this.

00:54:45.352 --> 00:54:46.560 align:middle line:90%
And this is state of the art.

00:54:46.560 --> 00:54:48.490 align:middle line:90%
This is the state of the art.

00:54:48.490 --> 00:54:52.870 align:middle line:84%
So to go from this to 3
and 1/2 billion base pairs,

00:54:52.870 --> 00:54:55.250 align:middle line:90%
you do it 300 at a time.

00:54:55.250 --> 00:54:55.750 align:middle line:90%
That's it.

00:54:55.750 --> 00:54:58.030 align:middle line:90%
There's no more magic than this.

00:54:58.030 --> 00:54:59.270 align:middle line:90%
There's also another problem.

00:54:59.270 --> 00:55:01.660 align:middle line:84%
What if I have two
peaks in the same spot?

00:55:01.660 --> 00:55:04.690 align:middle line:90%


00:55:04.690 --> 00:55:05.190 align:middle line:90%
Remember?

00:55:05.190 --> 00:55:06.930 align:middle line:90%
I have two chromosomes.

00:55:06.930 --> 00:55:08.680 align:middle line:84%
On one chromosome, it
might be one letter.

00:55:08.680 --> 00:55:10.388 align:middle line:84%
On the other, it might
be another letter.

00:55:10.388 --> 00:55:11.910 align:middle line:84%
Happens all the
time, 1 in 1,000 it

00:55:11.910 --> 00:55:13.500 align:middle line:84%
turns out, which
we'll talk about.

00:55:13.500 --> 00:55:14.610 align:middle line:90%
That's a polymorphism.

00:55:14.610 --> 00:55:16.182 align:middle line:90%
It could be this or that.

00:55:16.182 --> 00:55:18.765 align:middle line:84%
So that's how you can read it
by looking at the peaks as well.

00:55:18.765 --> 00:55:22.310 align:middle line:90%


00:55:22.310 --> 00:55:23.290 align:middle line:90%
That's basically it.

00:55:23.290 --> 00:55:27.725 align:middle line:84%
You terminate the chain with
the fluorescent nucleotide.

00:55:27.725 --> 00:55:29.350 align:middle line:84%
And you just line
them up, and you just

00:55:29.350 --> 00:55:32.110 align:middle line:90%
read them off at the bottom.

00:55:32.110 --> 00:55:34.032 align:middle line:84%
And phred basically
makes the calls here.

00:55:34.032 --> 00:55:36.490 align:middle line:84%
The software looks at the peaks
and makes it the best guess

00:55:36.490 --> 00:55:38.510 align:middle line:90%
here.

00:55:38.510 --> 00:55:41.320 align:middle line:84%
So all of these peaks,
not just the letters--

00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:45.370 align:middle line:84%
I told you the letters
would fit on a CD-ROM.

00:55:45.370 --> 00:55:47.230 align:middle line:84%
If you wanted to
keep the tracings,

00:55:47.230 --> 00:55:50.410 align:middle line:84%
you're going to need a
hell of a lot of storage,

00:55:50.410 --> 00:55:53.665 align:middle line:84%
on the order of hundreds of
terabytes for just one human.

00:55:53.665 --> 00:55:55.540 align:middle line:84%
But they're all stored,
and they're all saved

00:55:55.540 --> 00:55:57.115 align:middle line:90%
for the Human Genome Project.

00:55:57.115 --> 00:55:59.740 align:middle line:84%
Because people go back and say,
well, this peak wasn't so high.

00:55:59.740 --> 00:56:01.540 align:middle line:84%
I don't think this
is the right letter.

00:56:01.540 --> 00:56:02.950 align:middle line:84%
But for the Human
Genome Project,

00:56:02.950 --> 00:56:05.158 align:middle line:84%
not only do we have all 3
and 1/2 billion base pairs,

00:56:05.158 --> 00:56:07.480 align:middle line:84%
we also have an assessment
of how good of a call

00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.985 align:middle line:84%
it was for each letter
based on these peaks.

00:56:09.985 --> 00:56:13.600 align:middle line:90%


00:56:13.600 --> 00:56:16.270 align:middle line:84%
So how do we get to the
entire Human Genome Project?

00:56:16.270 --> 00:56:17.450 align:middle line:90%
You automate the process.

00:56:17.450 --> 00:56:19.240 align:middle line:84%
So this is a picture of the
Genome Center, the Whitehead

00:56:19.240 --> 00:56:20.140 align:middle line:90%
Institute.

00:56:20.140 --> 00:56:23.500 align:middle line:84%
And basically, it's a whole
bunch of robots just going off

00:56:23.500 --> 00:56:25.690 align:middle line:90%
setting these things going.

00:56:25.690 --> 00:56:28.390 align:middle line:84%
Most of the genome was
sequence in just the 12 months

00:56:28.390 --> 00:56:30.400 align:middle line:84%
prior to the finish
of the genome.

00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:32.710 align:middle line:84%
Even though the process had
been going on for 10 years,

00:56:32.710 --> 00:56:34.690 align:middle line:84%
it takes time to
develop these machines,

00:56:34.690 --> 00:56:36.730 align:middle line:84%
develop the technology,
and more importantly

00:56:36.730 --> 00:56:39.255 align:middle line:84%
to develop the strategy, which
we'll talk about in a second.

00:56:39.255 --> 00:56:40.630 align:middle line:84%
And then the
machines were built.

00:56:40.630 --> 00:56:41.830 align:middle line:84%
And basically, they
could do the whole genome

00:56:41.830 --> 00:56:43.480 align:middle line:90%
in 12 months at the end.

00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:46.810 align:middle line:84%
You could see the number of
genes that were in draft form

00:56:46.810 --> 00:56:50.410 align:middle line:84%
grew exponentially until the
end even though it started back

00:56:50.410 --> 00:56:52.750 align:middle line:90%
in the mid-'90s.

00:56:52.750 --> 00:56:57.220 align:middle line:84%
The Whitehead can run
100,000 sequencing reactions

00:56:57.220 --> 00:56:59.290 align:middle line:90%
every 12 hours.

00:56:59.290 --> 00:57:01.870 align:middle line:84%
Multiply that by 300
base pairs for each,

00:57:01.870 --> 00:57:04.160 align:middle line:84%
and you can get on the order
of 3 million base pairs.

00:57:04.160 --> 00:57:08.470 align:middle line:84%
Let's say if I do 300,
that's going to be three--

00:57:08.470 --> 00:57:12.520 align:middle line:84%
30 million base pairs, let's
say, every 12 hours now.

00:57:12.520 --> 00:57:14.770 align:middle line:84%
Robots pick all the colonies
because these things

00:57:14.770 --> 00:57:16.300 align:middle line:90%
are grown up in bacteria.

00:57:16.300 --> 00:57:19.040 align:middle line:84%
OK, here we go, 60 million
nucleotides per day

00:57:19.040 --> 00:57:21.220 align:middle line:84%
is the current estimate
of what they can sequence.

00:57:21.220 --> 00:57:24.770 align:middle line:84%
And we couldn't do it
even five years ago.

00:57:24.770 --> 00:57:27.820 align:middle line:84%
So then you have all of these
little, little, little pieces

00:57:27.820 --> 00:57:31.090 align:middle line:90%
of 300 base pairs.

00:57:31.090 --> 00:57:33.640 align:middle line:84%
And somehow, you need to
put this entire jigsaw

00:57:33.640 --> 00:57:35.980 align:middle line:90%
puzzle back together.

00:57:35.980 --> 00:57:38.690 align:middle line:84%
So there's essentially
two ways you can do this.

00:57:38.690 --> 00:57:42.220 align:middle line:84%
You can start with some
strategy and say, well, I'm

00:57:42.220 --> 00:57:44.590 align:middle line:84%
just going to take this
piece of this chromosome

00:57:44.590 --> 00:57:45.430 align:middle line:90%
and sequence that.

00:57:45.430 --> 00:57:46.805 align:middle line:84%
Then let's move
to the next piece

00:57:46.805 --> 00:57:49.390 align:middle line:84%
and sequence that and take
that and take that and just

00:57:49.390 --> 00:57:52.030 align:middle line:84%
have some structure in
mind as to the order you're

00:57:52.030 --> 00:57:54.100 align:middle line:84%
going to do it and keep
tract of the pieces.

00:57:54.100 --> 00:57:56.530 align:middle line:84%
And then how they're
going to go back.

00:57:56.530 --> 00:57:58.990 align:middle line:84%
The opposite approach is
called shotgun sequencing.

00:57:58.990 --> 00:58:01.810 align:middle line:84%
And that's basically saying,
take the entire genome,

00:58:01.810 --> 00:58:05.530 align:middle line:84%
split it up into these
300 base pair fragments,

00:58:05.530 --> 00:58:07.090 align:middle line:90%
and split it up again.

00:58:07.090 --> 00:58:08.770 align:middle line:84%
Take the whole genome
and split up again

00:58:08.770 --> 00:58:12.670 align:middle line:84%
into 300 base pair fragments
using some other way.

00:58:12.670 --> 00:58:15.230 align:middle line:84%
So the place where I'm going
to cut it for this method

00:58:15.230 --> 00:58:17.230 align:middle line:84%
are going to be different
than the ways I cut it

00:58:17.230 --> 00:58:18.130 align:middle line:90%
for this method.

00:58:18.130 --> 00:58:21.220 align:middle line:84%
Sequence the whole mess
and just see what overlaps.

00:58:21.220 --> 00:58:22.930 align:middle line:84%
Basically, this
piece of this puzzle

00:58:22.930 --> 00:58:24.972 align:middle line:84%
seems to go on this piece
of that kind of puzzle.

00:58:24.972 --> 00:58:27.670 align:middle line:84%
And you basically put the whole
pieces together like that.

00:58:27.670 --> 00:58:31.638 align:middle line:84%
Now, that assumes a lot
of computational power.

00:58:31.638 --> 00:58:33.430 align:middle line:84%
You got to keep all
these things in memory.

00:58:33.430 --> 00:58:35.860 align:middle line:84%
You got to line them up and
see which ones work best.

00:58:35.860 --> 00:58:38.688 align:middle line:84%
So the best approach in
the end was a hybrid.

00:58:38.688 --> 00:58:40.480 align:middle line:84%
You don't just put all
the pieces together,

00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:43.030 align:middle line:84%
but you also keep some idea
of the scaffolding, where

00:58:43.030 --> 00:58:45.940 align:middle line:84%
you got the pieces from, instead
of just doing it randomly

00:58:45.940 --> 00:58:46.720 align:middle line:90%
like this.

00:58:46.720 --> 00:58:49.480 align:middle line:84%
So like most things in life,
the hybrid worked the best.

00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:52.000 align:middle line:90%


00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:53.663 align:middle line:84%
So here are all the
pieces cut one way.

00:58:53.663 --> 00:58:55.330 align:middle line:84%
Here are all the
pieces cut another way.

00:58:55.330 --> 00:58:58.085 align:middle line:84%
And this is basically saying,
well, A1 to A2 has no overlap,

00:58:58.085 --> 00:58:58.960 align:middle line:90%
so we're stuck there.

00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:00.500 align:middle line:90%
We don't know how they join.

00:59:00.500 --> 00:59:03.240 align:middle line:84%
But A2 and A3 might
have some overlap.

00:59:03.240 --> 00:59:05.740 align:middle line:84%
And there's B here, and then
you basically put them together

00:59:05.740 --> 00:59:07.390 align:middle line:90%
based on the pieces.

00:59:07.390 --> 00:59:10.420 align:middle line:84%
And hopefully, you have
some overlaps between them.

00:59:10.420 --> 00:59:13.970 align:middle line:84%
This A goes with this A, but
we also see B and B here.

00:59:13.970 --> 00:59:15.460 align:middle line:90%
Here's B1 fits right here.

00:59:15.460 --> 00:59:17.350 align:middle line:84%
And B3 fits like there,
et cetera, et cetera.

00:59:17.350 --> 00:59:19.240 align:middle line:84%
That's how these
things are joined.

00:59:19.240 --> 00:59:23.418 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] you
look for overlap [INAUDIBLE]??

00:59:23.418 --> 00:59:25.960 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Obviously, you're
going to need a whole bunch.

00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:26.700 align:middle line:84%
You're going to
need a whole bunch.

00:59:26.700 --> 00:59:28.120 align:middle line:90%
And so there's a lot of holes.

00:59:28.120 --> 00:59:30.200 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: So there's only 300
base pairs [? information. ?]

00:59:30.200 --> 00:59:30.790 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: And again--

00:59:30.790 --> 00:59:31.707 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

00:59:31.707 --> 00:59:34.700 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Again, I told you
50% of the genome is repeats.

00:59:34.700 --> 00:59:36.220 align:middle line:84%
So statistically
speaking, you're

00:59:36.220 --> 00:59:39.190 align:middle line:84%
going to get a whole bunch that
look like they fit together.

00:59:39.190 --> 00:59:41.770 align:middle line:84%
That's why this doesn't
work that easily right

00:59:41.770 --> 00:59:44.800 align:middle line:84%
out of the box because you
have three small pieces that

00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:46.700 align:middle line:90%
look so much like each other.

00:59:46.700 --> 00:59:48.460 align:middle line:84%
So that's why hybrid
approach works

00:59:48.460 --> 00:59:51.460 align:middle line:84%
best if you remember that this
piece came from chromosome 1

00:59:51.460 --> 00:59:54.310 align:middle line:84%
on this band on this
thing, actually you then

00:59:54.310 --> 00:59:57.680 align:middle line:84%
can put it somewhere
physically in the genome.

00:59:57.680 --> 01:00:00.310 align:middle line:84%
So for a human they had
10 4-processor machines,

01:00:00.310 --> 01:00:02.980 align:middle line:84%
so 4 gigabytes of RAM
each, and a 16-processor

01:00:02.980 --> 01:00:04.210 align:middle line:90%
with 64 gigabytes.

01:00:04.210 --> 01:00:07.210 align:middle line:90%
That took 10,000 CPU hours.

01:00:07.210 --> 01:00:09.190 align:middle line:84%
That's a huge amount
of computational power

01:00:09.190 --> 01:00:11.680 align:middle line:84%
just to put all the pieces
together for the human.

01:00:11.680 --> 01:00:16.020 align:middle line:84%
The overlaps take memory,
600 gigabytes of RAM.

01:00:16.020 --> 01:00:18.552 align:middle line:84%
And in the end, hybrid of
putting it on a physical map

01:00:18.552 --> 01:00:19.260 align:middle line:90%
is the way to go.

01:00:19.260 --> 01:00:20.440 align:middle line:90%
Let's see if I have that there.

01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:22.398 align:middle line:84%
So now, we're at a state
where you can actually

01:00:22.398 --> 01:00:25.060 align:middle line:84%
go to websites, like this one
at the University of California

01:00:25.060 --> 01:00:27.787 align:middle line:84%
Santa Cruz, which is probably
one of the more popular ones,

01:00:27.787 --> 01:00:29.620 align:middle line:84%
and you can just start
to browse the genome.

01:00:29.620 --> 01:00:30.720 align:middle line:84%
So if you just
pick-- you can even

01:00:30.720 --> 01:00:33.053 align:middle line:84%
hit a button to take you to
a random spot on the genome.

01:00:33.053 --> 01:00:35.310 align:middle line:84%
Here's an arbitrary
region of chromosome 19.

01:00:35.310 --> 01:00:36.780 align:middle line:84%
It shows you where
the bands are,

01:00:36.780 --> 01:00:38.640 align:middle line:84%
where the GC-rich
regions are, what

01:00:38.640 --> 01:00:41.970 align:middle line:84%
you would see on a karyotype,
where the predicted genes are,

01:00:41.970 --> 01:00:45.060 align:middle line:84%
where actually people have
seen different pieces of gene

01:00:45.060 --> 01:00:46.150 align:middle line:90%
in messenger RNA.

01:00:46.150 --> 01:00:49.350 align:middle line:84%
So you can start to tell where
the introns and exons are,

01:00:49.350 --> 01:00:51.600 align:middle line:84%
where the polymorphisms
are, all in one screen.

01:00:51.600 --> 01:00:53.600 align:middle line:84%
And there's actually two
different commonly used

01:00:53.600 --> 01:00:54.642 align:middle line:90%
browsers for this.

01:00:54.642 --> 01:00:56.100 align:middle line:84%
And I think the
next screen is just

01:00:56.100 --> 01:01:00.690 align:middle line:90%
a blow up of the UCSC browser.

01:01:00.690 --> 01:01:04.920 align:middle line:84%
This is like a running thing
of the GC content here.

01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:06.300 align:middle line:90%
So that gets us to this.

01:01:06.300 --> 01:01:08.520 align:middle line:84%
So now, I already
started to hint at this.

01:01:08.520 --> 01:01:11.070 align:middle line:84%
Let's say, off the
automated sequencer,

01:01:11.070 --> 01:01:12.932 align:middle line:90%
you see peaks like this.

01:01:12.932 --> 01:01:15.390 align:middle line:84%
Or here, I see a little bit of
a hump here and a little bit

01:01:15.390 --> 01:01:17.100 align:middle line:84%
of a hump here or
here, here exactly,

01:01:17.100 --> 01:01:19.860 align:middle line:84%
two humps that are
exactly the same size.

01:01:19.860 --> 01:01:20.910 align:middle line:90%
That makes me think--

01:01:20.910 --> 01:01:22.740 align:middle line:84%
I mean, the program
puts a little n here

01:01:22.740 --> 01:01:25.037 align:middle line:84%
because I don't know
which it is, an A or a T.

01:01:25.037 --> 01:01:27.120 align:middle line:84%
But what that really could
mean is that that could

01:01:27.120 --> 01:01:28.950 align:middle line:84%
be a polymorphism, that
that human actually

01:01:28.950 --> 01:01:31.290 align:middle line:84%
has both letters, one
on one chromosome, one

01:01:31.290 --> 01:01:34.360 align:middle line:90%
on the other chromosome.

01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:36.400 align:middle line:84%
And so if you have
a chunk of DNA

01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:38.400 align:middle line:84%
that you're interested
in finding polymorphisms,

01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.520 align:middle line:84%
you can get that gene or get
that chunk of DNA, sequence

01:01:41.520 --> 01:01:44.370 align:middle line:84%
in 100 humans, and just see
what the different letters are

01:01:44.370 --> 01:01:45.270 align:middle line:90%
in that sequence.

01:01:45.270 --> 01:01:46.445 align:middle line:90%
That's one way to do it.

01:01:46.445 --> 01:01:48.570 align:middle line:84%
But they found a whole
bunch of these polymorphisms

01:01:48.570 --> 01:01:50.940 align:middle line:84%
just by doing the
Genome Project.

01:01:50.940 --> 01:01:53.880 align:middle line:84%
The Genome Project was
sequencing 30 or so humans.

01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:56.010 align:middle line:84%
And there are going to be
differences in 30 people.

01:01:56.010 --> 01:01:59.650 align:middle line:84%
So a whole bunch of them
were found that way as well.

01:01:59.650 --> 01:02:02.220 align:middle line:84%
So you can either do this
while sequencing the genome.

01:02:02.220 --> 01:02:04.200 align:middle line:84%
You find arbitrary
polymorphisms.

01:02:04.200 --> 01:02:05.700 align:middle line:84%
Or if I'm interested
in this gene

01:02:05.700 --> 01:02:07.200 align:middle line:84%
because I think it's
involved in asthma,

01:02:07.200 --> 01:02:08.908 align:middle line:84%
I want to see if there
are polymorphisms,

01:02:08.908 --> 01:02:11.220 align:middle line:84%
I can go after that gene and
sequence it the same way.

01:02:11.220 --> 01:02:13.887 align:middle line:84%
Both ways are going to look like
this on an automated sequencer,

01:02:13.887 --> 01:02:14.670 align:middle line:90%
two peaks there.

01:02:14.670 --> 01:02:17.420 align:middle line:90%


01:02:17.420 --> 01:02:19.840 align:middle line:84%
You can also use microwaves,
which we'll skip this one.

01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:23.960 align:middle line:84%
But you can use an array to help
you find these SNPs as well.

01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:25.950 align:middle line:84%
So I think you're going
to have electron SNPs.

01:02:25.950 --> 01:02:26.590 align:middle line:90%
If someone--

01:02:26.590 --> 01:02:30.280 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Joel Hirschhorn, who
is an expert for Whitehead,

01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:33.830 align:middle line:84%
told you about SNPs and
problems of interpreting

01:02:33.830 --> 01:02:34.660 align:middle line:90%
SNP [INAUDIBLE].

01:02:34.660 --> 01:02:36.910 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: So I think
this is my last slide on DNA

01:02:36.910 --> 01:02:37.810 align:middle line:90%
measurements.

01:02:37.810 --> 01:02:39.940 align:middle line:84%
And I'm just going to
end on clinical uses

01:02:39.940 --> 01:02:42.490 align:middle line:90%
since this is genomic medicine.

01:02:42.490 --> 01:02:45.250 align:middle line:84%
So again, SNPs are Single
Nucleotide Polymorphisms.

01:02:45.250 --> 01:02:48.400 align:middle line:84%
At a particular arbitrary
spot in that genome,

01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:50.800 align:middle line:84%
you have an A. I
have a T, let's say.

01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.050 align:middle line:84%
And it's usually just
one thing or another.

01:02:53.050 --> 01:02:55.540 align:middle line:84%
Rarely, there's places where
there's three combinations.

01:02:55.540 --> 01:02:57.700 align:middle line:90%
Usually, it's one or the other.

01:02:57.700 --> 01:03:00.040 align:middle line:84%
That happens, on average,
rough estimate-- about 1

01:03:00.040 --> 01:03:02.563 align:middle line:84%
in 1,000 base pairs
can be a polymorphism.

01:03:02.563 --> 01:03:04.480 align:middle line:84%
So if you do the math,
that's maybe 3 million,

01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:06.700 align:middle line:84%
10 million different
spots in the genome

01:03:06.700 --> 01:03:09.380 align:middle line:84%
where you could have
one letter or another.

01:03:09.380 --> 01:03:12.400 align:middle line:84%
And figuring out the
association of those letters

01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:15.280 align:middle line:84%
to differences in
susceptibility to disease

01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:18.010 align:middle line:90%
is another Holy Grail now.

01:03:18.010 --> 01:03:19.970 align:middle line:84%
If you have diabetes,
I don't have diabetes.

01:03:19.970 --> 01:03:20.710 align:middle line:90%
You have these letters.

01:03:20.710 --> 01:03:21.310 align:middle line:90%
I have these letters.

01:03:21.310 --> 01:03:22.727 align:middle line:84%
Maybe those letters
have something

01:03:22.727 --> 01:03:24.555 align:middle line:90%
to do with it is the basic idea.

01:03:24.555 --> 01:03:25.930 align:middle line:84%
Now, here's one
particular figure

01:03:25.930 --> 01:03:27.730 align:middle line:84%
from an article in The New
England Journal of Medicine

01:03:27.730 --> 01:03:29.110 align:middle line:90%
just to give you an idea.

01:03:29.110 --> 01:03:31.420 align:middle line:84%
There's one particular
gene called HLA.

01:03:31.420 --> 01:03:36.670 align:middle line:84%
And this is specifically HLA-B.
It's a particular HLA gene.

01:03:36.670 --> 01:03:40.300 align:middle line:84%
And you can have one
particular polymorphism

01:03:40.300 --> 01:03:42.405 align:middle line:90%
on both your chromosomes.

01:03:42.405 --> 01:03:44.030 align:middle line:84%
You can have a mix
of one or the other,

01:03:44.030 --> 01:03:46.280 align:middle line:84%
or you can have the most
common form of this.

01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:48.740 align:middle line:84%
So there's a common
form of the letter.

01:03:48.740 --> 01:03:51.920 align:middle line:84%
This is a rare form, or we
could have a mix of the two.

01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:55.930 align:middle line:84%
And this one particular gene,
if you're infected with HIV,

01:03:55.930 --> 01:04:00.430 align:middle line:84%
that one spelling determines
your conversion to AIDS.

01:04:00.430 --> 01:04:02.180 align:middle line:84%
It can actually
have a huge impact.

01:04:02.180 --> 01:04:06.610 align:middle line:84%
So if you have this rare form
of the polymorphism on both

01:04:06.610 --> 01:04:07.990 align:middle line:84%
your chromosomes,
homozygous, you

01:04:07.990 --> 01:04:12.850 align:middle line:84%
can go from having HIV to AIDS
very quickly within 10 years.

01:04:12.850 --> 01:04:15.020 align:middle line:84%
If you don't have it, if
both your chromosomes have

01:04:15.020 --> 01:04:17.780 align:middle line:84%
the more common form,
you can go on and on.

01:04:17.780 --> 01:04:21.710 align:middle line:84%
And some people never get
AIDS as far out as 18 years.

01:04:21.710 --> 01:04:25.040 align:middle line:84%
And if you have the mix, you're
somewhere in between here.

01:04:25.040 --> 01:04:27.760 align:middle line:84%
So associations of
SNPs with diseases

01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.247 align:middle line:84%
are exceedingly
common to find now.

01:04:30.247 --> 01:04:32.080 align:middle line:84%
In fact, every other
week in The New England

01:04:32.080 --> 01:04:34.122 align:middle line:84%
Journal of Medicine, this
is what you're reading.

01:04:34.122 --> 01:04:36.550 align:middle line:84%
It's going to be some
association with this spelling

01:04:36.550 --> 01:04:38.272 align:middle line:90%
versus that disease.

01:04:38.272 --> 01:04:40.480 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: What's the most
frequent form in this case?

01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:41.230 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: The
most frequent is going

01:04:41.230 --> 01:04:43.090 align:middle line:90%
to be no HLA, in the black one.

01:04:43.090 --> 01:04:44.080 align:middle line:90%
Yup.

01:04:44.080 --> 01:04:45.580 align:middle line:90%
So let me ask you.

01:04:45.580 --> 01:04:50.140 align:middle line:84%
How much do you think it
costs to measure a SNP?

01:04:50.140 --> 01:04:53.320 align:middle line:84%
So if I have one arbitrary
spot in all of our genomes

01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:55.780 align:middle line:84%
that I want to measure,
whether there's A,

01:04:55.780 --> 01:04:57.760 align:middle line:84%
T, C, or G in any
arbitrary genome,

01:04:57.760 --> 01:04:59.290 align:middle line:90%
how much do you think it costs?

01:04:59.290 --> 01:05:00.880 align:middle line:84%
Not how much the lab
charges, how much

01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:03.430 align:middle line:84%
do you think it costs to
measure one base pair?

01:05:03.430 --> 01:05:04.750 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

01:05:04.750 --> 01:05:05.740 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: How
much does it cost?

01:05:05.740 --> 01:05:06.400 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: I already [INAUDIBLE].

01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:07.358 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Guesses?

01:05:07.358 --> 01:05:08.620 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

01:05:08.620 --> 01:05:10.000 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE:
You already guess?

01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:10.500 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

01:05:10.500 --> 01:05:13.450 align:middle line:84%
So we come up with the
answer of $0.05 to $0.10.

01:05:13.450 --> 01:05:15.683 align:middle line:84%
It's probably going to
$0.01 in the next few years,

01:05:15.683 --> 01:05:16.225 align:middle line:90%
pretty cheap.

01:05:16.225 --> 01:05:17.050 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Stole
your thunder, sorry.

01:05:17.050 --> 01:05:19.030 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Stole
my thunder, all right.

01:05:19.030 --> 01:05:21.070 align:middle line:90%
Oh, yeah.

01:05:21.070 --> 01:05:23.290 align:middle line:84%
Last thing on SNPs, you
didn't take this, did you?

01:05:23.290 --> 01:05:23.950 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: I did, too.

01:05:23.950 --> 01:05:26.117 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Damn, I'll
stop giving you my slides.

01:05:26.117 --> 01:05:30.843 align:middle line:90%


01:05:30.843 --> 01:05:31.760 align:middle line:90%
How much time we have?

01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:33.560 align:middle line:90%
OK.

01:05:33.560 --> 01:05:37.108 align:middle line:84%
Let's talk about
gene expression.

01:05:37.108 --> 01:05:38.900 align:middle line:84%
Let's talk about
microarrays, fourth slide,

01:05:38.900 --> 01:05:40.700 align:middle line:84%
and then we'll
talk about protein.

01:05:40.700 --> 01:05:42.080 align:middle line:90%
So we recovered DNA.

01:05:42.080 --> 01:05:44.270 align:middle line:84%
Now, we're working our
way out of the nucleus.

01:05:44.270 --> 01:05:46.950 align:middle line:84%
Now, let's talk about
the messenger RNA.

01:05:46.950 --> 01:05:48.650 align:middle line:84%
So like we said,
if the cell decides

01:05:48.650 --> 01:05:49.850 align:middle line:84%
to make a particular
protein, it's

01:05:49.850 --> 01:05:51.920 align:middle line:84%
going to start making the
blueprints for that protein,

01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:52.705 align:middle line:90%
the messenger RNA.

01:05:52.705 --> 01:05:56.840 align:middle line:84%
It turns out it's very
easy to measure these now.

01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:59.570 align:middle line:84%
The most common way to measure
them is using a microarray.

01:05:59.570 --> 01:06:02.330 align:middle line:84%
All a microarray is
is a 2 centimeter

01:06:02.330 --> 01:06:04.670 align:middle line:84%
by 2 centimeter, about the
size of your thumbnail,

01:06:04.670 --> 01:06:08.120 align:middle line:84%
it's a man-made grid of DNA
where each spot in the grid

01:06:08.120 --> 01:06:10.910 align:middle line:84%
is looking for one
particular RNA.

01:06:10.910 --> 01:06:14.138 align:middle line:84%
And so the density
is about 500 by 500.

01:06:14.138 --> 01:06:16.430 align:middle line:84%
So that's on order of a
quarter million different spots

01:06:16.430 --> 01:06:17.457 align:middle line:90%
on these arrays.

01:06:17.457 --> 01:06:19.040 align:middle line:84%
And suffice it to
say, you can measure

01:06:19.040 --> 01:06:23.720 align:middle line:84%
the entire genome of transcripts
with one array today.

01:06:23.720 --> 01:06:25.787 align:middle line:84%
And the way this works
is have to get the tissue

01:06:25.787 --> 01:06:26.870 align:middle line:90%
that you're interested in.

01:06:26.870 --> 01:06:28.520 align:middle line:84%
You can't just do
this from blood

01:06:28.520 --> 01:06:30.253 align:middle line:84%
unless you're
interested in blood.

01:06:30.253 --> 01:06:31.670 align:middle line:84%
If you're interested
in the brain,

01:06:31.670 --> 01:06:33.050 align:middle line:84%
you've got to get the
brain tissue to figure out

01:06:33.050 --> 01:06:34.342 align:middle line:90%
what genes are turned on there.

01:06:34.342 --> 01:06:36.380 align:middle line:84%
It might expose it
to certain influence.

01:06:36.380 --> 01:06:38.263 align:middle line:90%
Get the RNA, so isolate it.

01:06:38.263 --> 01:06:40.430 align:middle line:84%
Remember, most of them are
sticky with the little A.

01:06:40.430 --> 01:06:42.830 align:middle line:84%
We just have to get the
Ts and pull them out.

01:06:42.830 --> 01:06:46.370 align:middle line:84%
Make them fluorescent by
making copies of them.

01:06:46.370 --> 01:06:48.140 align:middle line:84%
Remember, I showed
you that technique.

01:06:48.140 --> 01:06:50.082 align:middle line:84%
You can make a copy of
something using the PCR

01:06:50.082 --> 01:06:52.040 align:middle line:84%
and just have it put
fluorescent ones in there,

01:06:52.040 --> 01:06:53.248 align:middle line:90%
and it'll become fluorescent.

01:06:53.248 --> 01:06:55.527 align:middle line:84%
Let it sit on this
man-made grid overnight.

01:06:55.527 --> 01:06:56.360 align:middle line:90%
Come in the morning.

01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:57.140 align:middle line:90%
Wash it off.

01:06:57.140 --> 01:06:58.478 align:middle line:90%
Light it up with the laser.

01:06:58.478 --> 01:07:00.020 align:middle line:84%
The laser lights up
the fluorescence,

01:07:00.020 --> 01:07:01.710 align:middle line:84%
and you basically
take a picture.

01:07:01.710 --> 01:07:03.080 align:middle line:90%
And you get a TIFF image.

01:07:03.080 --> 01:07:06.140 align:middle line:84%
If you scan in pictures at home,
you know what a TIFF image is.

01:07:06.140 --> 01:07:07.170 align:middle line:90%
But these are huge.

01:07:07.170 --> 01:07:09.650 align:middle line:84%
These are on order of 10
megabytes, these files.

01:07:09.650 --> 01:07:11.402 align:middle line:84%
And then the biology
takes a pause.

01:07:11.402 --> 01:07:12.860 align:middle line:84%
The informatics
comes in and starts

01:07:12.860 --> 01:07:14.510 align:middle line:90%
to quantitate each of these.

01:07:14.510 --> 01:07:17.870 align:middle line:84%
It's quantitative to 4
to 5 orders of magnitude,

01:07:17.870 --> 01:07:19.410 align:middle line:90%
and it's not perfect.

01:07:19.410 --> 01:07:21.697 align:middle line:90%
There's a lot of noise.

01:07:21.697 --> 01:07:23.030 align:middle line:90%
Most people like this technique.

01:07:23.030 --> 01:07:25.070 align:middle line:84%
Again, these are also
commodity items today.

01:07:25.070 --> 01:07:27.800 align:middle line:84%
You can get one of these for the
entire genome for about $300,

01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:31.400 align:middle line:84%
$350 bucks today
on [? Longwood. ?]

01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:33.620 align:middle line:84%
The quantitative, there's
at least two different ways

01:07:33.620 --> 01:07:34.220 align:middle line:90%
to do this.

01:07:34.220 --> 01:07:36.320 align:middle line:84%
There's an absolute
measurement technique

01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:37.560 align:middle line:90%
and a relative technique.

01:07:37.560 --> 01:07:38.518 align:middle line:90%
So what does that mean?

01:07:38.518 --> 01:07:41.390 align:middle line:84%
How much of this gene is
present is one technique.

01:07:41.390 --> 01:07:44.090 align:middle line:84%
How much is this gene is present
relative to this other tissue

01:07:44.090 --> 01:07:45.020 align:middle line:90%
is another technique.

01:07:45.020 --> 01:07:47.657 align:middle line:84%
And the relative one uses
two fluorescent colors.

01:07:47.657 --> 01:07:49.490 align:middle line:84%
The absolute one uses
one fluorescent color.

01:07:49.490 --> 01:07:51.290 align:middle line:84%
It depends on what's the
nature of the spots are,

01:07:51.290 --> 01:07:53.123 align:middle line:84%
but we're not going to
go into those details

01:07:53.123 --> 01:07:54.800 align:middle line:90%
unless you really want to.

01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:58.580 align:middle line:84%
The important point is that the
genes are chosen arbitrarily.

01:07:58.580 --> 01:08:00.560 align:middle line:84%
Statisticians hate
this aspect of it.

01:08:00.560 --> 01:08:03.500 align:middle line:84%
These are not drawn from some
master normal distribution

01:08:03.500 --> 01:08:04.310 align:middle line:90%
here.

01:08:04.310 --> 01:08:07.010 align:middle line:84%
This year's chips are different
than last year's chips

01:08:07.010 --> 01:08:08.560 align:middle line:84%
because we know
more of the genes.

01:08:08.560 --> 01:08:11.060 align:middle line:84%
Next year's chips are going to
be different than this year's

01:08:11.060 --> 01:08:11.540 align:middle line:90%
chips.

01:08:11.540 --> 01:08:13.248 align:middle line:84%
So every year, these
things are changing.

01:08:13.248 --> 01:08:15.620 align:middle line:84%
There's not ever going to
be one fixed genome here.

01:08:15.620 --> 01:08:17.870 align:middle line:84%
And you need the
functional tissue.

01:08:17.870 --> 01:08:20.180 align:middle line:84%
There are some diseases
that are easy to study

01:08:20.180 --> 01:08:21.920 align:middle line:90%
with microarrays, like cancer.

01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:23.615 align:middle line:84%
If you have a solid
tumor, the patient

01:08:23.615 --> 01:08:24.740 align:middle line:90%
goes to the operating room.

01:08:24.740 --> 01:08:25.790 align:middle line:90%
The tumor gets taken out.

01:08:25.790 --> 01:08:26.873 align:middle line:90%
You have a hunk of tissue.

01:08:26.873 --> 01:08:27.930 align:middle line:90%
You can extract the RNA.

01:08:27.930 --> 01:08:29.502 align:middle line:84%
You can find a lot
of genes this way.

01:08:29.502 --> 01:08:31.460 align:middle line:84%
And so that's why most
of the microarray papers

01:08:31.460 --> 01:08:32.959 align:middle line:90%
involve cancer.

01:08:32.959 --> 01:08:35.000 align:middle line:84%
A slightly harder
disease to study

01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:37.160 align:middle line:84%
might be something
like diabetes.

01:08:37.160 --> 01:08:40.880 align:middle line:84%
Diabetes affects the liver,
muscle, fat, pancreas, maybe

01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:42.178 align:middle line:90%
brain simultaneously.

01:08:42.178 --> 01:08:43.970 align:middle line:84%
You might want to get
all of those tissues.

01:08:43.970 --> 01:08:45.740 align:middle line:84%
And let me tell you,
we don't normally

01:08:45.740 --> 01:08:48.590 align:middle line:84%
do biopsies of these things
when we diagnose diabetes.

01:08:48.590 --> 01:08:51.529 align:middle line:84%
Well, we could use
animal models, et cetera.

01:08:51.529 --> 01:08:53.330 align:middle line:84%
Slightly harder disease
to study would be

01:08:53.330 --> 01:08:54.680 align:middle line:90%
something like schizophrenia.

01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:56.763 align:middle line:84%
I know the functional
tissue, but just

01:08:56.763 --> 01:08:59.180 align:middle line:84%
which part of the brain am I
going to actually get and put

01:08:59.180 --> 01:08:59.960 align:middle line:90%
on this array?

01:08:59.960 --> 01:09:02.240 align:middle line:84%
I can't take an entire
human brain to do this.

01:09:02.240 --> 01:09:03.537 align:middle line:90%
Is it this part or this part?

01:09:03.537 --> 01:09:05.120 align:middle line:84%
So I even know the
tissue, but I don't

01:09:05.120 --> 01:09:06.859 align:middle line:84%
know where I'm going
to put the array, what

01:09:06.859 --> 01:09:08.120 align:middle line:90%
I'm going to put on the array.

01:09:08.120 --> 01:09:10.010 align:middle line:84%
And then one harder
disease to study

01:09:10.010 --> 01:09:11.870 align:middle line:84%
would be something
like hypertension.

01:09:11.870 --> 01:09:15.529 align:middle line:84%
What's the functional tissue
in high blood pressure?

01:09:15.529 --> 01:09:16.372 align:middle line:90%
Is it the heart?

01:09:16.372 --> 01:09:17.330 align:middle line:90%
Is it the blood vessel?

01:09:17.330 --> 01:09:19.620 align:middle line:84%
Is it the smooth muscle
of the blood vessel?

01:09:19.620 --> 01:09:21.979 align:middle line:84%
What exactly am I going
to put on the array

01:09:21.979 --> 01:09:23.819 align:middle line:84%
to learn what genes
are up and down?

01:09:23.819 --> 01:09:26.415 align:middle line:84%
So this is not the
panacea for all diseases.

01:09:26.415 --> 01:09:28.790 align:middle line:84%
If you want to know what genes
are functionally involved,

01:09:28.790 --> 01:09:31.130 align:middle line:84%
you have to be able to think
about the functional tissue

01:09:31.130 --> 01:09:32.300 align:middle line:90%
here.

01:09:32.300 --> 01:09:34.100 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

01:09:34.100 --> 01:09:36.920 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: How long after death
can you do this [INAUDIBLE]??

01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:37.760 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: The
easy way to answer

01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:39.635 align:middle line:84%
that is that people have
been able to get RNA

01:09:39.635 --> 01:09:42.524 align:middle line:90%
from paraffin-embedded tissues.

01:09:42.524 --> 01:09:44.149 align:middle line:84%
And they think that
they're successful,

01:09:44.149 --> 01:09:45.950 align:middle line:84%
but most people flash
freeze these things.

01:09:45.950 --> 01:09:47.810 align:middle line:84%
If you're in the OR with
the tumor getting taken out,

01:09:47.810 --> 01:09:49.760 align:middle line:84%
most people just put it
into [? monosodium ?]

01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:50.330 align:middle line:90%
right then and there.

01:09:50.330 --> 01:09:51.830 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: The
slightly longer answer

01:09:51.830 --> 01:09:54.680 align:middle line:84%
is RNA does degrade as opposed
to DNA, which can stick around.

01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:59.350 align:middle line:84%
And that's why they can do
Jurassic Park-like stunts.

01:09:59.350 --> 01:10:01.880 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: But there's
a reason why RNA degrades,

01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:03.650 align:middle line:90%
because we degrade it.

01:10:03.650 --> 01:10:06.090 align:middle line:84%
A lot of viruses are
just strands of RNA.

01:10:06.090 --> 01:10:07.760 align:middle line:84%
So that's on our
interest to degrade it.

01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:10.640 align:middle line:84%
So we have RNA, so
we exude RNAses.

01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:11.930 align:middle line:90%
It's much harder to work--

01:10:11.930 --> 01:10:13.983 align:middle line:84%
I mean, high school
students work with DNA.

01:10:13.983 --> 01:10:16.400 align:middle line:84%
If you've ever done this in
your high school where they go

01:10:16.400 --> 01:10:19.210 align:middle line:84%
get blood from an
abattoir-- and they just

01:10:19.210 --> 01:10:20.210 align:middle line:90%
basically get the blood.

01:10:20.210 --> 01:10:21.835 align:middle line:84%
And you can look at
the strands of DNA.

01:10:21.835 --> 01:10:24.200 align:middle line:84%
You can't do that with RNA
because we all have RNAses.

01:10:24.200 --> 01:10:25.895 align:middle line:84%
We're going to degrade
it immediately.

01:10:25.895 --> 01:10:27.020 align:middle line:90%
So you have to wear gloves.

01:10:27.020 --> 01:10:28.460 align:middle line:84%
You have to use special
techniques, et cetera.

01:10:28.460 --> 01:10:30.418 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: But sometimes
studies [INAUDIBLE] you

01:10:30.418 --> 01:10:31.790 align:middle line:90%
have hours after death.

01:10:31.790 --> 01:10:36.130 align:middle line:84%
And definitely, a muscle
tissue four hours after death

01:10:36.130 --> 01:10:40.950 align:middle line:84%
has a different [INAUDIBLE]
factor [INAUDIBLE],,

01:10:40.950 --> 01:10:44.140 align:middle line:84%
for instance, [INAUDIBLE]
in many other [INAUDIBLE]..

01:10:44.140 --> 01:10:47.490 align:middle line:84%
And so if you really
want to do it reasonably,

01:10:47.490 --> 01:10:50.040 align:middle line:84%
then basically as close
to get the moment of death

01:10:50.040 --> 01:10:51.558 align:middle line:90%
is where you want to be.

01:10:51.558 --> 01:10:53.600 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: This is
what these arrays actually

01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:54.030 align:middle line:90%
look like.

01:10:54.030 --> 01:10:55.550 align:middle line:84%
This is the whole
human genome array

01:10:55.550 --> 01:10:57.980 align:middle line:84%
from a company called Affymetrix
that makes these things.

01:10:57.980 --> 01:11:00.540 align:middle line:84%
And they actually make a
96-well format of this.

01:11:00.540 --> 01:11:03.287 align:middle line:84%
So here are 96 microarrays
in just one plate.

01:11:03.287 --> 01:11:05.120 align:middle line:84%
So you can imagine how
much data you get out

01:11:05.120 --> 01:11:08.180 align:middle line:84%
of this with 10 megabytes of
each for each of these images,

01:11:08.180 --> 01:11:11.080 align:middle line:84%
huge amount of data
being collected this way.

01:11:11.080 --> 01:11:13.490 align:middle line:84%
And we're not going to talk
about the differences here.

01:11:13.490 --> 01:11:15.960 align:middle line:90%
And we'll not talk about that.

01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:18.535 align:middle line:84%
So you can use these microarrays
to tell which genes are up.

01:11:18.535 --> 01:11:20.660 align:middle line:84%
So for example, if I have
a whole bunch of patients

01:11:20.660 --> 01:11:23.660 align:middle line:84%
and half of them had
one type of leukemia

01:11:23.660 --> 01:11:25.668 align:middle line:84%
and half had another
type of leukemia,

01:11:25.668 --> 01:11:27.710 align:middle line:84%
leukemia means a whole
bunch of white blood cells

01:11:27.710 --> 01:11:28.680 align:middle line:90%
go up in the blood.

01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:31.057 align:middle line:84%
So you get easy
access to that tissue.

01:11:31.057 --> 01:11:33.140 align:middle line:84%
And you can find genes
that are up in one and down

01:11:33.140 --> 01:11:36.020 align:middle line:84%
and the other or down in one and
up in the other, et cetera, et

01:11:36.020 --> 01:11:36.770 align:middle line:90%
cetera.

01:11:36.770 --> 01:11:38.930 align:middle line:84%
In the end, you can get
lists of genes very easily.

01:11:38.930 --> 01:11:41.420 align:middle line:90%
Now, we all commonly do this.

01:11:41.420 --> 01:11:43.790 align:middle line:84%
And this core facility is
basically in every hospital.

01:11:43.790 --> 01:11:46.070 align:middle line:84%
If you're a clinician at the
Brigham and Women's Hospital,

01:11:46.070 --> 01:11:48.020 align:middle line:84%
you can take your sample
down to the core facility,

01:11:48.020 --> 01:11:49.520 align:middle line:84%
and they'll give
you back the text

01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:52.080 align:middle line:84%
file-- this gene, this amount,
this gene, this amount.

01:11:52.080 --> 01:11:54.890 align:middle line:84%
It's just a matter of asking
the right questions now.

01:11:54.890 --> 01:11:56.900 align:middle line:84%
But the list of
genes isn't enough.

01:11:56.900 --> 01:11:58.730 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes you want to
go back and validate

01:11:58.730 --> 01:12:00.772 align:middle line:84%
that a gene is actually
where it's supposed to be

01:12:00.772 --> 01:12:02.610 align:middle line:84%
or what you thought
was actually happening.

01:12:02.610 --> 01:12:05.260 align:middle line:84%
And there's two ways to do
this, in situ hybridization

01:12:05.260 --> 01:12:07.400 align:middle line:90%
and real-time PCR.

01:12:07.400 --> 01:12:09.500 align:middle line:84%
So these are usually
inserted after you've

01:12:09.500 --> 01:12:11.360 align:middle line:90%
done a microarray analysis.

01:12:11.360 --> 01:12:13.310 align:middle line:84%
In situ hybridization
is very easy.

01:12:13.310 --> 01:12:15.770 align:middle line:84%
I take the same RNA
that I'm looking for,

01:12:15.770 --> 01:12:18.020 align:middle line:84%
make the exact reverse
complement of it,

01:12:18.020 --> 01:12:19.820 align:middle line:90%
and make it fluorescent again.

01:12:19.820 --> 01:12:21.890 align:middle line:84%
And I'll make enough
of it that I can then

01:12:21.890 --> 01:12:25.350 align:middle line:84%
stain a sample, a
tissue sample, with that

01:12:25.350 --> 01:12:27.230 align:middle line:84%
and then light it up
to make a picture.

01:12:27.230 --> 01:12:29.300 align:middle line:84%
So wherever that
transcript was, this

01:12:29.300 --> 01:12:31.475 align:middle line:84%
is going to stick to it
after I've washed it off.

01:12:31.475 --> 01:12:32.600 align:middle line:90%
And it's going to light up.

01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.642 align:middle line:84%
And I can take glorious
pictures like this.

01:12:34.642 --> 01:12:36.350 align:middle line:84%
So I can use different
colors to light up

01:12:36.350 --> 01:12:37.725 align:middle line:90%
one RNA versus another.

01:12:37.725 --> 01:12:40.100 align:middle line:84%
And that might help me tell
that it's in the right tissue

01:12:40.100 --> 01:12:41.720 align:middle line:90%
that I thought it was.

01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:45.715 align:middle line:90%
Real-time PCR, it's even--

01:12:45.715 --> 01:12:47.840 align:middle line:84%
it's actually a little bit
harder to conceptualize,

01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:52.010 align:middle line:84%
but basically real-time PCR uses
that polymerase chain reaction

01:12:52.010 --> 01:12:57.200 align:middle line:84%
technique to actually detect
one sequence as compared

01:12:57.200 --> 01:12:59.322 align:middle line:90%
to a control sequence.

01:12:59.322 --> 01:13:01.280 align:middle line:84%
So it gives me a more
quantitative measurement.

01:13:01.280 --> 01:13:02.750 align:middle line:84%
This gives me a
nice picture that I

01:13:02.750 --> 01:13:05.930 align:middle line:84%
can put on the cover of
Nature, but RT PCR actually

01:13:05.930 --> 01:13:07.940 align:middle line:84%
gives me a number
that actually can then

01:13:07.940 --> 01:13:10.130 align:middle line:84%
be used to validate the
microarray findings.

01:13:10.130 --> 01:13:11.270 align:middle line:90%
It was three times higher.

01:13:11.270 --> 01:13:12.950 align:middle line:90%
It was four times higher.

01:13:12.950 --> 01:13:14.450 align:middle line:84%
It's basically using
a PCR technique

01:13:14.450 --> 01:13:17.660 align:middle line:84%
to see how fast do I get
a detectable amount using

01:13:17.660 --> 01:13:21.200 align:middle line:84%
the repetitive the exponential
growth aspects of PCR.

01:13:21.200 --> 01:13:24.460 align:middle line:90%


01:13:24.460 --> 01:13:27.280 align:middle line:84%
So now, let's get into proteins
because we're coming close

01:13:27.280 --> 01:13:29.000 align:middle line:90%
to the end of the hour here.

01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:31.120 align:middle line:84%
So again, the Holy Grail
is get to proteins.

01:13:31.120 --> 01:13:34.570 align:middle line:84%
We all essentially
use microarrays

01:13:34.570 --> 01:13:39.843 align:middle line:84%
as a proxy for proteins,
but we don't have an array.

01:13:39.843 --> 01:13:42.010 align:middle line:84%
The same kind of array that
we have for microarrays,

01:13:42.010 --> 01:13:43.840 align:middle line:84%
we just don't have
it for proteins.

01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:45.280 align:middle line:90%
Why?

01:13:45.280 --> 01:13:49.120 align:middle line:84%
Because proteins are
much harder to measure.

01:13:49.120 --> 01:13:52.000 align:middle line:84%
The RNA, basically,
is As, Ts, Cs, Gs.

01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:53.350 align:middle line:90%
And it's essentially a strand.

01:13:53.350 --> 01:13:55.630 align:middle line:84%
And sometimes it
buckles and has twists,

01:13:55.630 --> 01:13:58.780 align:middle line:84%
but it's pretty easy to measure
using these microarrays.

01:13:58.780 --> 01:14:02.230 align:middle line:84%
Proteins can be positively
charged, negatively charged.

01:14:02.230 --> 01:14:03.580 align:middle line:90%
They can love water.

01:14:03.580 --> 01:14:04.840 align:middle line:90%
They can hate water.

01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:05.840 align:middle line:90%
They can be big.

01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:06.740 align:middle line:90%
They can be small.

01:14:06.740 --> 01:14:08.410 align:middle line:84%
If you look at it this way,
it looks like one thing.

01:14:08.410 --> 01:14:10.900 align:middle line:84%
If you look at it this way,
it looks like another thing.

01:14:10.900 --> 01:14:13.630 align:middle line:84%
So there's no easy
consistent way

01:14:13.630 --> 01:14:17.200 align:middle line:84%
to measure proteins
like there is for RNA.

01:14:17.200 --> 01:14:20.290 align:middle line:84%
Just to give you an idea, here
is a commonly used technique

01:14:20.290 --> 01:14:25.840 align:middle line:84%
called 2D Polyacrylamide Gel
Electrophoresis, or 2D-PAGE.

01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:29.530 align:middle line:84%
Take one sample, a
gemish of proteins.

01:14:29.530 --> 01:14:31.330 align:middle line:84%
All the proteins
are radioactive,

01:14:31.330 --> 01:14:34.420 align:middle line:84%
and I'm going to spread them
out this way based on the size.

01:14:34.420 --> 01:14:37.390 align:middle line:84%
Remember, if I put a
charge, the smaller things

01:14:37.390 --> 01:14:39.050 align:middle line:90%
move down faster.

01:14:39.050 --> 01:14:40.430 align:middle line:90%
So here's size.

01:14:40.430 --> 01:14:41.770 align:middle line:90%
And here's pH.

01:14:41.770 --> 01:14:43.450 align:middle line:84%
Here's the pH that
they like to hang out

01:14:43.450 --> 01:14:46.700 align:middle line:84%
in, two different things, two
different aspects of proteins.

01:14:46.700 --> 01:14:50.990 align:middle line:84%
And in the one gemish, I
have all of these spots.

01:14:50.990 --> 01:14:55.640 align:middle line:84%
And if I do this again, they're
going to be slightly different.

01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:58.480 align:middle line:84%
If I do a third time, it'll
be slightly different.

01:14:58.480 --> 01:14:59.470 align:middle line:90%
This is a picture.

01:14:59.470 --> 01:15:02.410 align:middle line:84%
This is the most irreducible
thing you can imagine.

01:15:02.410 --> 01:15:04.570 align:middle line:90%
The gel is set just right.

01:15:04.570 --> 01:15:06.530 align:middle line:84%
It might just come
out a different way.

01:15:06.530 --> 01:15:08.530 align:middle line:84%
So we wish that we
could look at this

01:15:08.530 --> 01:15:10.690 align:middle line:84%
and say, oh, it's got
this size and this pH.

01:15:10.690 --> 01:15:12.160 align:middle line:90%
It's got to be this protein--

01:15:12.160 --> 01:15:13.790 align:middle line:90%
can't do that at all.

01:15:13.790 --> 01:15:18.160 align:middle line:84%
So then what we'll do is we'll
cut out one of these spots

01:15:18.160 --> 01:15:20.110 align:middle line:84%
and use the next
technique to figure out

01:15:20.110 --> 01:15:21.880 align:middle line:90%
what protein might be in there.

01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:24.160 align:middle line:84%
But literally, people
look at these pictures

01:15:24.160 --> 01:15:26.590 align:middle line:84%
and they say, well, here's
a picture from cancer.

01:15:26.590 --> 01:15:27.910 align:middle line:90%
Here's not cancer.

01:15:27.910 --> 01:15:30.160 align:middle line:84%
And oh, I see this spot here,
and I don't see it here.

01:15:30.160 --> 01:15:32.980 align:middle line:84%
Maybe it's a
protein of interest.

01:15:32.980 --> 01:15:35.470 align:middle line:84%
And there's a whole informatics
trying to figure out

01:15:35.470 --> 01:15:37.720 align:middle line:84%
and automate and image
process these things,

01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:39.288 align:middle line:90%
but they're terrible.

01:15:39.288 --> 01:15:40.330 align:middle line:90%
This is not reproducible.

01:15:40.330 --> 01:15:42.970 align:middle line:84%
Look how these spots
are streaky, right?

01:15:42.970 --> 01:15:44.920 align:middle line:90%
I mean, it's just a mess.

01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:48.760 align:middle line:84%
Each spot has dozens,
hundreds of proteins in there.

01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:51.280 align:middle line:90%
Here's one paper I picked.

01:15:51.280 --> 01:15:53.140 align:middle line:84%
These guys looked at
all of these spots

01:15:53.140 --> 01:15:55.332 align:middle line:84%
and sequenced all of
them just to identify

01:15:55.332 --> 01:15:56.540 align:middle line:90%
all these different proteins.

01:15:56.540 --> 01:15:58.370 align:middle line:90%
So they've numbered each one.

01:15:58.370 --> 01:16:00.250 align:middle line:90%
So back in '99, this is the--

01:16:00.250 --> 01:16:02.140 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE] actually
in this building.

01:16:02.140 --> 01:16:03.557 align:middle line:84%
I'm laughing at
this, but, I mean,

01:16:03.557 --> 01:16:05.890 align:middle line:84%
it's a huge amount
of work to do this.

01:16:05.890 --> 01:16:09.070 align:middle line:84%
So from that one spot, we
might want to figure out

01:16:09.070 --> 01:16:10.510 align:middle line:90%
what proteins are there.

01:16:10.510 --> 01:16:12.460 align:middle line:84%
And this is a technique
that most people use.

01:16:12.460 --> 01:16:17.360 align:middle line:84%
It's this technique
called mass spectrometry.

01:16:17.360 --> 01:16:20.277 align:middle line:84%
And so the way this works
is you get this little spot.

01:16:20.277 --> 01:16:22.360 align:middle line:84%
Still, there's a whole
bunch of peptides in there.

01:16:22.360 --> 01:16:25.310 align:middle line:84%
Even though we separated
them a lot in these two axes,

01:16:25.310 --> 01:16:26.920 align:middle line:84%
there's a bunch
of proteins here.

01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:30.340 align:middle line:84%
And if you actually shoot
it into this detector--

01:16:30.340 --> 01:16:33.250 align:middle line:84%
so basically, what mass
spectrometry does is is it

01:16:33.250 --> 01:16:35.470 align:middle line:84%
takes a spot and
hits it with a laser.

01:16:35.470 --> 01:16:38.260 align:middle line:84%
And the things come
flying off of there.

01:16:38.260 --> 01:16:40.870 align:middle line:84%
And the way that
they fly off of there

01:16:40.870 --> 01:16:45.010 align:middle line:84%
depends a lot on the
size of the protein

01:16:45.010 --> 01:16:47.690 align:middle line:90%
and the charge of the protein.

01:16:47.690 --> 01:16:50.080 align:middle line:84%
So basically, in the
end through all of this,

01:16:50.080 --> 01:16:55.460 align:middle line:84%
you basically have one axis
here, mass divided by charge.

01:16:55.460 --> 01:16:58.240 align:middle line:84%
And I have peaks, basically,
that are coming off

01:16:58.240 --> 01:16:59.050 align:middle line:90%
of the detector.

01:16:59.050 --> 01:17:00.370 align:middle line:84%
Oh, there's a whole
bunch of stuff at this.

01:17:00.370 --> 01:17:01.030 align:middle line:90%
Now, there's nothing.

01:17:01.030 --> 01:17:01.947 align:middle line:90%
There's a whole bunch.

01:17:01.947 --> 01:17:06.130 align:middle line:84%
There's nothing, like
that, mass versus charge.

01:17:06.130 --> 01:17:08.050 align:middle line:84%
So the way this works
is what you can do

01:17:08.050 --> 01:17:11.980 align:middle line:84%
is, these proteins here,
you can digest them.

01:17:11.980 --> 01:17:15.760 align:middle line:84%
Remember how these
are long proteins.

01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:17.980 align:middle line:84%
That same enzyme that I
have in my pancreas that's

01:17:17.980 --> 01:17:21.100 align:middle line:84%
still working on my lunch, I
can use it to my advantage.

01:17:21.100 --> 01:17:24.070 align:middle line:84%
I could take a spot and
digest these peptides

01:17:24.070 --> 01:17:27.340 align:middle line:90%
into successfully--

01:17:27.340 --> 01:17:30.020 align:middle line:84%
to have sequentially
shorter protein.

01:17:30.020 --> 01:17:33.250 align:middle line:84%
So here's one protein
that's 40 amino acids long.

01:17:33.250 --> 01:17:34.150 align:middle line:90%
Here's one with 39.

01:17:34.150 --> 01:17:34.960 align:middle line:90%
Here's 138.

01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:35.830 align:middle line:90%
Here's 137.

01:17:35.830 --> 01:17:36.857 align:middle line:90%
Here's 136.

01:17:36.857 --> 01:17:38.440 align:middle line:84%
And basically, I do
this in such a way

01:17:38.440 --> 01:17:41.050 align:middle line:84%
so that all of these
peptides get broken up

01:17:41.050 --> 01:17:45.190 align:middle line:84%
into a series of
smaller peptides.

01:17:45.190 --> 01:17:46.560 align:middle line:90%
Why am I doing all this?

01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:47.560 align:middle line:90%
Why am I doing all this?

01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:50.140 align:middle line:90%
Because this is the trick.

01:17:50.140 --> 01:17:53.320 align:middle line:84%
If I want a protein
that's 30 amino acids long

01:17:53.320 --> 01:17:56.830 align:middle line:84%
and one the same protein, but
it's only 29 amino acids long,

01:17:56.830 --> 01:18:02.530 align:middle line:84%
the difference in size
is the last amino acid.

01:18:02.530 --> 01:18:06.850 align:middle line:84%
Then to go from 29 to 28,
the difference in size there

01:18:06.850 --> 01:18:08.690 align:middle line:90%
is that amino acid.

01:18:08.690 --> 01:18:11.140 align:middle line:84%
So if I've basically
successfully cut

01:18:11.140 --> 01:18:12.970 align:middle line:84%
this one amino acid
at a time and have

01:18:12.970 --> 01:18:14.860 align:middle line:84%
a whole range of
these, then I've

01:18:14.860 --> 01:18:18.100 align:middle line:84%
got the difference in
sizes to help me tell

01:18:18.100 --> 01:18:19.900 align:middle line:90%
what that last amino acid was.

01:18:19.900 --> 01:18:21.010 align:middle line:90%
And that's how we use it.

01:18:21.010 --> 01:18:22.720 align:middle line:84%
We just look at the
difference in peaks,

01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:25.950 align:middle line:84%
the difference between the
peaks is what we measure here.

01:18:25.950 --> 01:18:27.480 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]?

01:18:27.480 --> 01:18:29.310 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: No, not at all.

01:18:29.310 --> 01:18:30.505 align:middle line:90%
It's a mess, right?

01:18:30.505 --> 01:18:31.380 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

01:18:31.380 --> 01:18:32.790 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: It's a ratio.

01:18:32.790 --> 01:18:34.620 align:middle line:84%
So there's a bunch
of peaks here,

01:18:34.620 --> 01:18:37.320 align:middle line:84%
but that same peptide might
be somewhere else, too,

01:18:37.320 --> 01:18:39.360 align:middle line:84%
if it happened to
get an extra charge.

01:18:39.360 --> 01:18:40.410 align:middle line:90%
Absolutely.

01:18:40.410 --> 01:18:41.700 align:middle line:90%
It's not perfect at all.

01:18:41.700 --> 01:18:44.670 align:middle line:84%
It's not perfect at all, a
whole new area here that's

01:18:44.670 --> 01:18:46.740 align:middle line:90%
dying for new algorithms.

01:18:46.740 --> 01:18:47.980 align:middle line:90%
You do it your best shot.

01:18:47.980 --> 01:18:49.170 align:middle line:90%
You look at the peaks here.

01:18:49.170 --> 01:18:52.740 align:middle line:84%
There's naive ways to do it,
but they're not perfect at all.

01:18:52.740 --> 01:18:54.480 align:middle line:84%
And of course,
there's some proteins

01:18:54.480 --> 01:18:56.830 align:middle line:84%
that love to have
variable amounts of charge

01:18:56.830 --> 01:18:58.180 align:middle line:90%
more than others.

01:18:58.180 --> 01:19:00.353 align:middle line:84%
So some things are easier
to detect than others.

01:19:00.353 --> 01:19:02.145 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: But I mean,
the technique itself,

01:19:02.145 --> 01:19:08.820 align:middle line:84%
there are known methods of
how amino acids [INAUDIBLE]

01:19:08.820 --> 01:19:11.377 align:middle line:84%
species themselves that
they take [INAUDIBLE]..

01:19:11.377 --> 01:19:13.710 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: We know the
size of each amino acid, each

01:19:13.710 --> 01:19:15.130 align:middle line:90%
of the 20, 21 amino acids.

01:19:15.130 --> 01:19:17.910 align:middle line:84%
So we can tell if there's
a difference of peak here.

01:19:17.910 --> 01:19:19.850 align:middle line:84%
But remember, there
are multiple proteins.

01:19:19.850 --> 01:19:21.690 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
is not infallible,

01:19:21.690 --> 01:19:22.920 align:middle line:84%
but there's characteristic
[INAUDIBLE]..

01:19:22.920 --> 01:19:23.490 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE:
Absolutely, that's

01:19:23.490 --> 01:19:25.063 align:middle line:90%
why we're able to use it at all.

01:19:25.063 --> 01:19:26.730 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: And there's
libraries of that.

01:19:26.730 --> 01:19:27.370 align:middle line:90%
There's a lot of--

01:19:27.370 --> 01:19:28.410 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Exactly.

01:19:28.410 --> 01:19:29.830 align:middle line:90%
In fact, we can predict.

01:19:29.830 --> 01:19:31.710 align:middle line:84%
We can look at every
protein in the database

01:19:31.710 --> 01:19:33.870 align:middle line:84%
and predict what it
would look like when

01:19:33.870 --> 01:19:36.720 align:middle line:90%
applied with trypsin to cut it.

01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:38.317 align:middle line:90%
What would the peaks look like?

01:19:38.317 --> 01:19:39.900 align:middle line:84%
And you can actually
make predictions.

01:19:39.900 --> 01:19:41.665 align:middle line:84%
And you basically
take your pattern

01:19:41.665 --> 01:19:43.290 align:middle line:84%
and compare it to
the computer pattern.

01:19:43.290 --> 01:19:44.460 align:middle line:90%
This might be predicted.

01:19:44.460 --> 01:19:45.420 align:middle line:90%
This is the actual.

01:19:45.420 --> 01:19:47.220 align:middle line:84%
And the computer,
the algorithm here

01:19:47.220 --> 01:19:49.988 align:middle line:84%
basically says,
this is the protein.

01:19:49.988 --> 01:19:52.530 align:middle line:84%
Now, there's another important
point here I want to bring up.

01:19:52.530 --> 01:19:56.250 align:middle line:90%
This is not quantitative.

01:19:56.250 --> 01:19:59.250 align:middle line:84%
This helps you identify
a protein in a sample,

01:19:59.250 --> 01:20:00.600 align:middle line:90%
but it's not quantitative.

01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:02.490 align:middle line:84%
It doesn't tell you
how much there is.

01:20:02.490 --> 01:20:04.830 align:middle line:84%
There's all sorts of
newer, fancier techniques

01:20:04.830 --> 01:20:06.900 align:middle line:84%
to compare this to
some other sample

01:20:06.900 --> 01:20:09.300 align:middle line:84%
to try to get some kind of
quantitative measurement.

01:20:09.300 --> 01:20:11.790 align:middle line:84%
But the way this is commonly
used, it's just identifying.

01:20:11.790 --> 01:20:15.060 align:middle line:84%
It's not quantitative,
[INAUDIBLE]..

01:20:15.060 --> 01:20:17.050 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: Just a point,
in The Science Times,

01:20:17.050 --> 01:20:18.633 align:middle line:84%
in The New York Times
this week, there

01:20:18.633 --> 01:20:21.670 align:middle line:84%
was an article I saw
about a test, a diagnostic

01:20:21.670 --> 01:20:23.227 align:middle line:90%
for cervical cancer [INAUDIBLE].

01:20:23.227 --> 01:20:24.310 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Absolutely.

01:20:24.310 --> 01:20:25.480 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: They don't know how.

01:20:25.480 --> 01:20:26.290 align:middle line:90%
It's just a tumor.

01:20:26.290 --> 01:20:27.550 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: I think
I have that picture.

01:20:27.550 --> 01:20:28.177 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: OK.

01:20:28.177 --> 01:20:29.010 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Yeah.

01:20:29.010 --> 01:20:30.100 align:middle line:90%
Here, here's the one.

01:20:30.100 --> 01:20:31.480 align:middle line:90%
So here's ovarian cancer--

01:20:31.480 --> 01:20:32.500 align:middle line:90%
same thing, right?

01:20:32.500 --> 01:20:35.230 align:middle line:84%
So these guys use a
particular chip to do this,

01:20:35.230 --> 01:20:37.545 align:middle line:84%
but the chip is the
smallest piece of it.

01:20:37.545 --> 01:20:39.670 align:middle line:84%
It's basically still a mass
spec that's on the end.

01:20:39.670 --> 01:20:43.030 align:middle line:84%
Here is unaffected, unaffected,
cancer one, cancer two.

01:20:43.030 --> 01:20:44.617 align:middle line:84%
Here are all the
different bands.

01:20:44.617 --> 01:20:46.450 align:middle line:84%
And they say, to hell
with identifying them.

01:20:46.450 --> 01:20:48.080 align:middle line:90%
Here's the pattern.

01:20:48.080 --> 01:20:48.580 align:middle line:90%
Oh, wow.

01:20:48.580 --> 01:20:51.130 align:middle line:84%
I see a band here, a band
here, but no band here.

01:20:51.130 --> 01:20:53.330 align:middle line:90%
This must be diagnostic.

01:20:53.330 --> 01:20:54.580 align:middle line:90%
I'll easily answer back.

01:20:54.580 --> 01:20:58.390 align:middle line:84%
I mean, we're in danger of
overfitting the data here.

01:20:58.390 --> 01:21:01.720 align:middle line:84%
You have hundreds of thousands
of peaks here and only

01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:03.430 align:middle line:90%
four samples.

01:21:03.430 --> 01:21:06.808 align:middle line:84%
How hard is it to find them
that will answer your question?

01:21:06.808 --> 01:21:09.100 align:middle line:84%
I tend to believe these things
when they have something

01:21:09.100 --> 01:21:10.747 align:middle line:90%
to do with the biology.

01:21:10.747 --> 01:21:13.330 align:middle line:84%
If we go ahead and identify and
there's some causal mechanism,

01:21:13.330 --> 01:21:13.992 align:middle line:90%
that's great.

01:21:13.992 --> 01:21:16.450 align:middle line:84%
But others are going to be very
happy with this, especially

01:21:16.450 --> 01:21:19.210 align:middle line:84%
since we have no other test
for ovarian cancer today.

01:21:19.210 --> 01:21:20.905 align:middle line:84%
That's fine-- or
cervical cancer.

01:21:20.905 --> 01:21:22.600 align:middle line:84%
For cervical cancer,
we do Pap smears.

01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:23.680 align:middle line:84%
For ovarian cancer,
we have nothing.

01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:24.910 align:middle line:84%
If there is something
in the blood,

01:21:24.910 --> 01:21:27.243 align:middle line:84%
it's better than nothing is
what they would answer back.

01:21:27.243 --> 01:21:29.790 align:middle line:90%


01:21:29.790 --> 01:21:31.840 align:middle line:84%
So here's basically the
peak differences here.

01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:33.240 align:middle line:90%
So they say, here's this peak.

01:21:33.240 --> 01:21:33.948 align:middle line:90%
Here's this peak.

01:21:33.948 --> 01:21:35.700 align:middle line:84%
We think that's an
arginine or-- that's

01:21:35.700 --> 01:21:37.620 align:middle line:90%
basically how this works.

01:21:37.620 --> 01:21:39.000 align:middle line:84%
You use the
differences in peaks.

01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:42.460 align:middle line:84%
These things are
called peak lists.

01:21:42.460 --> 01:21:44.650 align:middle line:84%
Quantitative, we're
not going to go there,

01:21:44.650 --> 01:21:47.080 align:middle line:84%
but, basically, you can take
one sample and another sample

01:21:47.080 --> 01:21:50.920 align:middle line:84%
and grow the one
sample in heavy water.

01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:53.770 align:middle line:90%
Instead of H2O, we'll use H3O.

01:21:53.770 --> 01:21:56.530 align:middle line:84%
And that extra H, it's not
extra-- well, actually--

01:21:56.530 --> 01:21:57.580 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

01:21:57.580 --> 01:21:58.966 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: It's--

01:21:58.966 --> 01:22:00.058 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Deuterium.

01:22:00.058 --> 01:22:01.600 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: It's
deuterium, right.

01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:03.662 align:middle line:84%
So it's not just
deuterium, but you can also

01:22:03.662 --> 01:22:04.870 align:middle line:90%
use other different isotopes.

01:22:04.870 --> 01:22:06.453 align:middle line:84%
But basically, you
have the same atom.

01:22:06.453 --> 01:22:09.520 align:middle line:84%
Like, carbon can
have 12 protons,

01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:11.410 align:middle line:84%
or you can have
12 plus a neutron.

01:22:11.410 --> 01:22:13.030 align:middle line:84%
You can have all
sorts of other things

01:22:13.030 --> 01:22:15.998 align:middle line:84%
in the nucleus of the
atom that could change

01:22:15.998 --> 01:22:18.040 align:middle line:84%
how it looks on mass spec
because you're changing

01:22:18.040 --> 01:22:18.998 align:middle line:90%
the mass just slightly.

01:22:18.998 --> 01:22:21.332 align:middle line:84%
And then you can tell which
sample it came from and then

01:22:21.332 --> 01:22:22.490 align:middle line:90%
try to quantitate that way.

01:22:22.490 --> 01:22:25.340 align:middle line:84%
But again, the
charge could change.

01:22:25.340 --> 01:22:27.530 align:middle line:84%
So one protein's
not in one spot.

01:22:27.530 --> 01:22:28.930 align:middle line:90%
It's in a whole bunch of slots.

01:22:28.930 --> 01:22:31.660 align:middle line:84%
You need to sum them all
up, and they're overlapping.

01:22:31.660 --> 01:22:35.110 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] trypsin
[INAUDIBLE] peptide one

01:22:35.110 --> 01:22:37.852 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE] then--

01:22:37.852 --> 01:22:39.310 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: OK,
let me be clear.

01:22:39.310 --> 01:22:41.530 align:middle line:84%
The trypsin cuts into
manageable fragments.

01:22:41.530 --> 01:22:43.807 align:middle line:84%
And there's another
fragmenter in front

01:22:43.807 --> 01:22:45.640 align:middle line:84%
of the machine that's
actually cutting it up

01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:47.290 align:middle line:90%
into these one amino acids.

01:22:47.290 --> 01:22:47.800 align:middle line:90%
Go ahead.

01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:50.095 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: You have [INAUDIBLE]
different ways [INAUDIBLE]..

01:22:50.095 --> 01:22:50.887 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Yes.

01:22:50.887 --> 01:22:55.510 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] and you
have maybe [INAUDIBLE] number

01:22:55.510 --> 01:22:56.290 align:middle line:90%
of [? charges-- ?]

01:22:56.290 --> 01:22:56.830 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Absolutely.

01:22:56.830 --> 01:22:57.490 align:middle line:90%
That's right.

01:22:57.490 --> 01:23:02.600 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
pretty much [INAUDIBLE]

01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:04.555 align:middle line:90%
on what exactly [INAUDIBLE].

01:23:04.555 --> 01:23:05.930 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE:
Well, the thing is

01:23:05.930 --> 01:23:08.270 align:middle line:84%
the only hard part
is that you don't

01:23:08.270 --> 01:23:10.430 align:middle line:90%
know where the protein is.

01:23:10.430 --> 01:23:12.170 align:middle line:84%
You see a whole
bunch of spots there.

01:23:12.170 --> 01:23:13.640 align:middle line:84%
And you see that
it's here, but it

01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:16.980 align:middle line:84%
could be on either side of the
spectrum you're looking at.

01:23:16.980 --> 01:23:19.410 align:middle line:84%
And if you let the
machine run long enough,

01:23:19.410 --> 01:23:21.710 align:middle line:84%
you get a huge
amount of data off

01:23:21.710 --> 01:23:27.420 align:middle line:84%
of that machine, an
unmanageable amount of peaks.

01:23:27.420 --> 01:23:29.690 align:middle line:84%
And we can look at
and isolate one peak.

01:23:29.690 --> 01:23:33.560 align:middle line:84%
Here, let me-- I think from
this peak, we go to this peak.

01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:35.390 align:middle line:84%
From that peak, we
go to this peak.

01:23:35.390 --> 01:23:38.450 align:middle line:84%
We've zoomed in so far
to get the differences,

01:23:38.450 --> 01:23:40.670 align:middle line:84%
but it could be elsewhere
depending on the charge.

01:23:40.670 --> 01:23:43.250 align:middle line:90%


01:23:43.250 --> 01:23:44.570 align:middle line:90%
It's doable.

01:23:44.570 --> 01:23:47.570 align:middle line:84%
People do get great results
off of this, but by no means

01:23:47.570 --> 01:23:50.270 align:middle line:84%
is the informatics
done in this field yet.

01:23:50.270 --> 01:23:52.010 align:middle line:84%
And as more people
use this technique,

01:23:52.010 --> 01:23:54.550 align:middle line:84%
it's screaming for
new algorithms.

01:23:54.550 --> 01:23:56.000 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: A quick statement--

01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:59.270 align:middle line:84%
is it obvious to everybody that
the concentration of protein

01:23:59.270 --> 01:24:03.110 align:middle line:84%
is not the same as
concentration of RNA?

01:24:03.110 --> 01:24:05.900 align:middle line:90%
Everybody should know that.

01:24:05.900 --> 01:24:06.560 align:middle line:90%
In fact--

01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:07.435 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Right.

01:24:07.435 --> 01:24:10.130 align:middle line:84%
Like I was saying, we're
using it as a proxy.

01:24:10.130 --> 01:24:11.690 align:middle line:90%
But let's be clear.

01:24:11.690 --> 01:24:14.960 align:middle line:84%
If the cell has a whole
bunch of this protein there

01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:18.950 align:middle line:84%
and it's happy with that amount
and it's not going anywhere,

01:24:18.950 --> 01:24:21.273 align:middle line:90%
it doesn't need to make more.

01:24:21.273 --> 01:24:22.940 align:middle line:84%
That's the simplest
example of something

01:24:22.940 --> 01:24:25.835 align:middle line:84%
where there might be zero RNA,
but a whole lot of protein.

01:24:25.835 --> 01:24:28.400 align:middle line:90%


01:24:28.400 --> 01:24:30.447 align:middle line:84%
If that protein's
degrading really fast,

01:24:30.447 --> 01:24:32.030 align:middle line:84%
then the cell might
need to make more.

01:24:32.030 --> 01:24:33.897 align:middle line:84%
But there's a massive
disconnect here.

01:24:33.897 --> 01:24:36.230 align:middle line:84%
Some things are going to be
correlating, a lot of things

01:24:36.230 --> 01:24:37.880 align:middle line:90%
are not.

01:24:37.880 --> 01:24:39.833 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].

01:24:39.833 --> 01:24:41.750 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: All these
things about proteins

01:24:41.750 --> 01:24:42.840 align:middle line:90%
which we don't know--

01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:45.206 align:middle line:90%
depends on the protein.

01:24:45.206 --> 01:24:46.850 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: I just
have a question.

01:24:46.850 --> 01:24:48.410 align:middle line:90%
I'm just not sure.

01:24:48.410 --> 01:24:50.890 align:middle line:84%
When you do small molecules
[INAUDIBLE] compare

01:24:50.890 --> 01:24:54.110 align:middle line:84%
the [INAUDIBLE] you
eliminate the charges,

01:24:54.110 --> 01:24:56.953 align:middle line:84%
is there any equivalent
way that we could prepare--

01:24:56.953 --> 01:24:58.620 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: To
eliminate the charges?

01:24:58.620 --> 01:24:59.830 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Yeah.

01:24:59.830 --> 01:25:01.830 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: You asking
a detail I don't know.

01:25:01.830 --> 01:25:04.020 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: No, because
that's the reason why

01:25:04.020 --> 01:25:08.467 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE] small molecule
[INAUDIBLE] proxy [INAUDIBLE]..

01:25:08.467 --> 01:25:09.550 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Absolutely.

01:25:09.550 --> 01:25:11.842 align:middle line:84%
But the thing is is that it's
picking up charge, right?

01:25:11.842 --> 01:25:12.925 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: Yeah, of course.

01:25:12.925 --> 01:25:14.140 align:middle line:90%
It is a charge, ultimately.

01:25:14.140 --> 01:25:17.463 align:middle line:84%
But the reason why
[INAUDIBLE] use

01:25:17.463 --> 01:25:18.630 align:middle line:90%
that as a proxy [INAUDIBLE].

01:25:18.630 --> 01:25:19.713 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Absolutely.

01:25:19.713 --> 01:25:21.930 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
is not [INAUDIBLE]..

01:25:21.930 --> 01:25:22.170 align:middle line:90%
ATUL J. BUTTE: Yeah.

01:25:22.170 --> 01:25:24.087 align:middle line:84%
The biggest problem,
though, is that these are

01:25:24.087 --> 01:25:25.380 align:middle line:90%
longer than small molecules.

01:25:25.380 --> 01:25:27.930 align:middle line:84%
I mean, these are
much larger masses.

01:25:27.930 --> 01:25:28.890 align:middle line:90%
That's the problem.

01:25:28.890 --> 01:25:32.658 align:middle line:84%
And the proteins
themselves, if you just

01:25:32.658 --> 01:25:34.950 align:middle line:84%
chopped off the thing that's
holding the charge or that

01:25:34.950 --> 01:25:35.640 align:middle line:90%
loves--

01:25:35.640 --> 01:25:37.663 align:middle line:84%
if you just chopped off
the polar part of it,

01:25:37.663 --> 01:25:39.330 align:middle line:84%
it's going to have
different properties.

01:25:39.330 --> 01:25:42.090 align:middle line:84%
That next peak could
be wildly different.

01:25:42.090 --> 01:25:43.230 align:middle line:90%
It totally depends on that.

01:25:43.230 --> 01:25:46.650 align:middle line:84%
AUDIENCE: But for my microarray
lecture is, why is it,

01:25:46.650 --> 01:25:50.370 align:middle line:84%
if they, in fact, as [INAUDIBLE]
explain it, protein function,

01:25:50.370 --> 01:25:53.490 align:middle line:84%
protein synthesis
is not in a 1 to 1

01:25:53.490 --> 01:25:56.640 align:middle line:84%
relationship with RNA
synthesis [INAUDIBLE]

01:25:56.640 --> 01:26:01.170 align:middle line:84%
so successful in
defining disease classes

01:26:01.170 --> 01:26:05.840 align:middle line:84%
and the [INAUDIBLE] just
based on RNA expression?

01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:08.630 align:middle line:90%


01:26:08.630 --> 01:26:10.730 align:middle line:84%
Why is it-- why
should we [INAUDIBLE]??

01:26:10.730 --> 01:26:14.510 align:middle line:90%


01:26:14.510 --> 01:26:16.817 align:middle line:90%
Or could it?

01:26:16.817 --> 01:26:19.150 align:middle line:84%
ATUL J. BUTTE: I think this
is my-- this or the next one

01:26:19.150 --> 01:26:21.315 align:middle line:90%
is the last slide here.

01:26:21.315 --> 01:26:23.440 align:middle line:84%
Now, despite it being hard
to measure these things,

01:26:23.440 --> 01:26:24.898 align:middle line:84%
there are definitely
companies that

01:26:24.898 --> 01:26:26.680 align:middle line:84%
are trying to make
protein chips here.

01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:28.810 align:middle line:84%
One way to detect
proteins is to have

01:26:28.810 --> 01:26:30.173 align:middle line:90%
an antibody against a protein.

01:26:30.173 --> 01:26:31.840 align:middle line:84%
That's how people
have been doing things

01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:33.347 align:middle line:90%
like Western blots for decades.

01:26:33.347 --> 01:26:34.930 align:middle line:84%
And you can radiolabel
them and stuff.

01:26:34.930 --> 01:26:37.390 align:middle line:84%
So you can make a plate
here where each well

01:26:37.390 --> 01:26:41.680 align:middle line:84%
has an antibody against
one particular protein.

01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:44.300 align:middle line:84%
Or you could make-- for example,
people make a cytokine array.

01:26:44.300 --> 01:26:46.000 align:middle line:84%
So this array just
basically-- each spot

01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:47.292 align:middle line:90%
looks for a different cytokine.

01:26:47.292 --> 01:26:49.000 align:middle line:84%
You can buy these
things, but you

01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:51.760 align:middle line:84%
can't do this comprehensively
like can with microarrays.

01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:52.900 align:middle line:90%
That's the point.

01:26:52.900 --> 01:26:54.970 align:middle line:84%
If you look across
all possible proteins

01:26:54.970 --> 01:26:57.805 align:middle line:84%
plus alternative splice
products in proteins,

01:26:57.805 --> 01:27:00.190 align:middle line:90%
you just can't do it today.

01:27:00.190 --> 01:27:02.490 align:middle line:84%
You can do functional
assays as well.

01:27:02.490 --> 01:27:05.620 align:middle line:90%
I mean, it's antibody array.

01:27:05.620 --> 01:27:06.120 align:middle line:90%
That's it.

01:27:06.120 --> 01:27:08.100 align:middle line:84%
So we talked about
sequencing, polymorphisms.

01:27:08.100 --> 01:27:09.570 align:middle line:90%
We skipped SAGE.

01:27:09.570 --> 01:27:11.940 align:middle line:84%
Most people are using
microarrays now.

01:27:11.940 --> 01:27:13.320 align:middle line:90%
We didn't even cover wafers.

01:27:13.320 --> 01:27:15.180 align:middle line:90%
Let's cover wafers in a second--

01:27:15.180 --> 01:27:17.160 align:middle line:84%
2D-PAGE, mass spec
protein arrays.

01:27:17.160 --> 01:27:18.780 align:middle line:84%
Let me at least
cover the wafer thing

01:27:18.780 --> 01:27:25.110 align:middle line:90%
because it's worth knowing that.

01:27:25.110 --> 01:27:27.000 align:middle line:90%
It's all slides.

01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.375 align:middle line:90%
So the wafers blow my mind.

01:27:29.375 --> 01:27:31.000 align:middle line:84%
And that's why I like
to end with this.

01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:33.120 align:middle line:84%
So those companies that
make these microarrays,

01:27:33.120 --> 01:27:34.530 align:middle line:84%
they don't just make
them one at a time.

01:27:34.530 --> 01:27:36.697 align:middle line:84%
They make them the same way
computer chips are made.

01:27:36.697 --> 01:27:38.850 align:middle line:84%
They're made 40 at
a time in a wafer,

01:27:38.850 --> 01:27:40.578 align:middle line:90%
and then they're just cut out.

01:27:40.578 --> 01:27:42.120 align:middle line:84%
So there's a company
called Perlegen,

01:27:42.120 --> 01:27:43.320 align:middle line:84%
which is owned by
that other company

01:27:43.320 --> 01:27:45.112 align:middle line:84%
Affymetrix, that
basically said, why are we

01:27:45.112 --> 01:27:46.320 align:middle line:90%
making 40 of the same array?

01:27:46.320 --> 01:27:49.560 align:middle line:84%
Let's just make a
wafer one big array.

01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:51.870 align:middle line:84%
And with that, you
have so many spots.

01:27:51.870 --> 01:27:54.300 align:middle line:84%
You have 60 million
spots in one wafer.

01:27:54.300 --> 01:27:55.560 align:middle line:90%
It's about 5 inches.

01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:58.077 align:middle line:84%
I'm drawing it like this,
but it's really this small.

01:27:58.077 --> 01:27:59.160 align:middle line:90%
You can see the size here.

01:27:59.160 --> 01:27:59.827 align:middle line:90%
This is a wafer.

01:27:59.827 --> 01:28:01.830 align:middle line:84%
A 5 inch square has
60 million probes.

01:28:01.830 --> 01:28:03.938 align:middle line:84%
So even two years
ago, they showed

01:28:03.938 --> 01:28:05.730 align:middle line:84%
how you can use these
wafers to re-sequence

01:28:05.730 --> 01:28:07.290 align:middle line:90%
an entire chromosome.

01:28:07.290 --> 01:28:08.680 align:middle line:90%
And that was one paper.

01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:10.710 align:middle line:84%
You think about
how many years it

01:28:10.710 --> 01:28:13.090 align:middle line:84%
took to sequence of first
chromosome, the Human Genome

01:28:13.090 --> 01:28:13.590 align:middle line:90%
Project.

01:28:13.590 --> 01:28:17.130 align:middle line:84%
They can just do that now over
a weekend because they basically

01:28:17.130 --> 01:28:22.000 align:middle line:84%
have each spot is a moving
window of 25 base pairs.

01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:23.140 align:middle line:90%
So what do I mean by that?

01:28:23.140 --> 01:28:24.557 align:middle line:84%
They took the
smallest chromosome.

01:28:24.557 --> 01:28:25.920 align:middle line:90%
I think it was, like, 22, 23.

01:28:25.920 --> 01:28:27.450 align:middle line:84%
They took the
smallest chromosome,

01:28:27.450 --> 01:28:30.180 align:middle line:84%
and they took the
first 25 nucleotides.

01:28:30.180 --> 01:28:31.347 align:middle line:90%
And they put it in one spot.

01:28:31.347 --> 01:28:33.763 align:middle line:84%
And then the middle one they
said, well, it could be an A,

01:28:33.763 --> 01:28:35.340 align:middle line:84%
T, C, or G. So
that's four spots.

01:28:35.340 --> 01:28:37.660 align:middle line:84%
Now, let's move to the
next one, to the next one.

01:28:37.660 --> 01:28:40.740 align:middle line:84%
So they have a moving window
of 25 nucleotides going

01:28:40.740 --> 01:28:43.710 align:middle line:84%
from one end to the other
end of the chromosome

01:28:43.710 --> 01:28:45.893 align:middle line:90%
across a series of wafers.

01:28:45.893 --> 01:28:47.310 align:middle line:84%
And once they have
that done, they

01:28:47.310 --> 01:28:49.435 align:middle line:84%
can just take anyone's
blood and just basically get

01:28:49.435 --> 01:28:50.640 align:middle line:90%
the entire pattern now.

01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:51.690 align:middle line:84%
And they don't
have to say, well,

01:28:51.690 --> 01:28:53.440 align:middle line:84%
I think there's a SNP
here or a SNP there.

01:28:53.440 --> 01:28:55.558 align:middle line:84%
They just know all the
SNPs now because it's just

01:28:55.558 --> 01:28:57.600 align:middle line:84%
a matter of how many humans
you put on the array.

01:28:57.600 --> 01:28:59.490 align:middle line:90%
And it's just blood.

01:28:59.490 --> 01:29:05.550 align:middle line:84%
The big issue-- each scan, the
TIFF image, takes 10 terabytes.

01:29:05.550 --> 01:29:07.650 align:middle line:84%
We were just learning
about gigabytes.

01:29:07.650 --> 01:29:10.740 align:middle line:84%
Terabyte is 1,000 of those,
and this is 10 of them

01:29:10.740 --> 01:29:13.770 align:middle line:90%
for just one of these wafers.

01:29:13.770 --> 01:29:16.140 align:middle line:84%
So it's well-known
that life science data

01:29:16.140 --> 01:29:19.260 align:middle line:84%
is growing much faster than
this famous Moore's law.

01:29:19.260 --> 01:29:21.300 align:middle line:84%
Moore's law is from
Gordon Moore from Intel

01:29:21.300 --> 01:29:24.390 align:middle line:84%
that said that microprocessor
power doubles every 18 months.

01:29:24.390 --> 01:29:27.370 align:middle line:84%
Life science data is growing
way faster than that.

01:29:27.370 --> 01:29:29.100 align:middle line:84%
This is just one
example of this.

01:29:29.100 --> 01:29:30.750 align:middle line:84%
They've publicly
stated that they

01:29:30.750 --> 01:29:33.240 align:middle line:84%
can sequence all SNPs
in a human in 10 days,

01:29:33.240 --> 01:29:34.600 align:middle line:90%
not just the ones we know about.

01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:36.070 align:middle line:90%
They just know all of them.

01:29:36.070 --> 01:29:37.800 align:middle line:84%
And this is just one
of many companies.

01:29:37.800 --> 01:29:39.720 align:middle line:84%
There's many in
the 95 Beltway here

01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:42.180 align:middle line:84%
that are doing the same
thing as competition.

01:29:42.180 --> 01:29:43.770 align:middle line:84%
So remember how I
was joking around

01:29:43.770 --> 01:29:45.960 align:middle line:84%
that you could fit your
entire genome on a CD-ROM?

01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:47.760 align:middle line:84%
It is absolutely
conceivable that we

01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:51.990 align:middle line:84%
can have this within the next
one or two years if we want it.

01:29:51.990 --> 01:29:53.833 align:middle line:84%
The technology is
there to do this.

01:29:53.833 --> 01:29:56.250 align:middle line:84%
They certainly have the hard
drive space there at Perlegen

01:29:56.250 --> 01:29:57.562 align:middle line:90%
to do it.

01:29:57.562 --> 01:29:58.770 align:middle line:90%
All right, I think that's it.

01:29:58.770 --> 01:30:01.490 align:middle line:84%
And we should end since
we're a little bit over.