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JOHN SOUTHARD: So
these are the variables

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you'd have to take
into account if you're

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going to capture
the reality of bed

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configurations and the usual
flow depth, flow velocity,

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sediment size.

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The fluid density is important.

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The fluid viscosity
is important.

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And then there's sediment
density and gravity.

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Now, I have to make a
few comments about it.

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The particles have weight.

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And that's a combination
from the density and gravity

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that makes weight.

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But also, density,
fluid density--

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sediment density itself
is important by itself.

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And I want to show you now--

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let's see how lucky I am here.

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Yeah.

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They act together.

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And obviously,
weight is important.

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That makes the sediment
negatively buoyant.

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But particle density
gives the particle

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inertia going through the fluid.

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So if you had a turbulent
fluid, the particle

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tends to go by itself and not
be affected by the turbulence.

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And here's the
thought experiment.

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Did I tell you about
thought experiments?

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I love thought experiments.

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Einstein loves
thought experiments.

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His whole theory of
relativity was based

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on some thought experiments.

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I saw Einstein once.

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What do you think of that?

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1952, in Princeton.

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He was walking on a
sidewalk near his home,

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and I was sitting there in the
car, and I watched him walk by.

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So look, you're in a
zero-gravity spaceship

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up there in space.

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And you have a big tank of
water, closed-in tank of water.

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And you have a way of shooting
a particle into the tank

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and watching what
happens with it.

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Now, the particle
has no weight at all.

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But the difference
in density still

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is important because
it has inertia.

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And if the flow in
there were turbulent,

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and you shoot the particle, it
would try to take its own path,

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not affected by the turbulence.

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And I showed you this.

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I think I showed you this.

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It's to remind you about what
buoyancy is in the first place.

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And here's one of my
all-time heroes, Archimedes.

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So rho s And g together account
for the motion of the particle.

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And we don't need to worry about
the weight per unit volume.

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Rho s and g take care of
the weight per unit volume,

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so we don't need
to worry about it.

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So what's most
important for us are,

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I think, depth velocity
and sediment size.

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And there are various ways
of non-dimensionalizing.

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And this one, I
think, is useful.

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This is different from the
PowerPoint number three

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you had, different in some ways.

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But anyway, there it is.

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So we can use the three
dimensionless variables,

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flow depth, flow velocity,
and sediment size,

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nondimensionalized.

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But what I'm going
to do-- and you

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can make a three-dimensional
diagram out of it,

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section this way, section
this way, section that way,

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and I'm going to show
you some results.

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It's non-dimensional.

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But the graphs that
I'm showing you have--

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these variables are normalized
to 10-degree water temperature

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so that it all comes
out nicely on the graph.

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And I'm going to make some
more comments about that soon.

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So here's the sections.

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All the diagrams are
normalized to 10 degree.

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I don't expect you
to see a lot of this.

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But I'm going to show you the
next slide in more detail.

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This is a flow depth versus--

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so what you see is for low
velocities, there's no movement.

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Then you have ripples.

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Then you have dunes.

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Then you have upper plane bed.

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But these lines down here
are for equal Froude number,

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Froude number about 1.

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And beyond that,
you get anti-dunes.

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And if you made dunes
way down here somewhere,

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you'd find that the
dunes and the anti-dunes

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would interact with
each other somehow.

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And I've never done
that in the lab.

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I can't tell you what
it would look like.

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This is one of my
favorite slides.

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This is another
section, U versus--

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velocity versus sediment size.

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This is for a flow depth of
about 0.25 to 0.4 meters,

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so a lot of data.

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Almost all these data
come from the laboratory,

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my laboratory, a lot of
other people's laboratories.

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And it plots very nicely,
interestingly, I think.

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For fine sediments,
you find ripples,

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and then they change to upper
plane bed at a certain point.

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I told you that
already, I guess.

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For another range of
sediment sizes about in here,

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ripples go into dunes, and
the dunes go into plane bed.

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But beyond about
half millimeter,

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there are no more ripples.

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Ripples don't form, only dunes.

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As soon as you go from no
motion, you develop dunes.

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And the anti-dunes would be
way up in here somewhere.

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This is Froude
number 1 right here.

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Does that make sense to you?

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And I think I have a cartoon
of this in your notes,

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which shows this.

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And let me go back here.

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What I like about this is you
can fit a curve, a very natural,

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normal curve with no scatter.

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It really works, which means
we're doing something right.

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I have a colleague
named Dave Rubin.

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We've been together
for a long, long time.

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And he picked up on this.

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And he and Dave McCulloch made--
this is a little complicated.

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But this is the
three-dimensional graph

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that I just told you about.

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But it extends up to
a considerable depth.

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And you get stuff out in here.

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These are sections
through that graph.

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And you have to imagine
volumes of existence fields.

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And as far as I know,
nobody's improved

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upon that, which seems
strange because it's

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really important to think about
greater flow depths, not just

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the typical flow depth like
this in laboratory channels.

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It's seldom greater
than about a meter

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because you have to have an
enormous, enormous channel

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to make different things.

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So now, we're limiting ourselves
for water on Earth, gravity,

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and sediment particles, quartz
density, sediment density,

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and water.

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But you can easily adjust
this for different gravity.

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And I'll make a few comments
pretty soon about Mars.

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But there are zillions
of planets out there

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in the universe that would
have flowing liquids,

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moving sediment particles
under some gravity.

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And there are some constraints.

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There aren't too many liquids
that have different densities

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and viscosities.

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You can use motor
oil and honey, I

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suppose, to have
higher viscosities.

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But condensed matter
liquids don't have

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a great range of densities.

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But just keep in mind that
this is just one little thing

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on Earth, and we have a
wide range in the universe

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that we're not going
to know anything about.

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Oh, and here's an issue.

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I don't know whether you've
been thinking about this.

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It's the boundary shear stress
that moves the sediment.

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So why don't we use the
boundary shear stress

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on that graph instead
of depth and velocity?

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But there's a problem here.

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Now, this is an old, old, old
slide that I made in 1975.

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And I was calling it flatbed
instead of upper plane bed.

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And this is a graph of bed shear
stress versus mean velocity.

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And it doesn't just go
up, monotonically upward.

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There's that little bump there.

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And the next slide
explains it more.

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So this is the boundary
shear stress versus velocity.

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And here's that
curve I showed you.

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And there's a range of
boundary shear stresses

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for which you can have 1, 2,
3 different flow velocities.

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Now, why would that be?

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Can you think about
why that would be?

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Strain your brain
a little bit here.

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I don't get any responses,
so I may go on ahead.

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So as you increase the velocity
over rugged bed forms, dunes,

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and ripples, the
boundary shear stress,

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the total boundary sheer stress
is high because of all that form

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drag.

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Remember form drag?

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But then the dunes
wash out to plane bed.

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And all of a sudden, there's no
form drag, only skin friction.

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So you'd expect to have
overlap in the graphs.

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This is just to glance at.

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And there's a cartoon of it.

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There's an area, a
couple of areas in here,

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for which there is
overlap of data.

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It gets really messy in here.

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And that's just
because we're dealing

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with a non-monotonically
increasing value of the flow

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stress, of the stress.

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And there it is.

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You have to live with it.

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So do you get around it?

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So when?

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AUDIENCE: From the
three-dimensional graph

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that you showed, are those
just for subaqueous dunes?

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Or are they also
applied to eolian?

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JOHN SOUTHARD:
They're for water--

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well, water or they would be
good for any other liquid.

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But let me point this out.

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I forgot to point it out.

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These graphs are
for a given ratio

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of Rho s over Rho,
density ratio.

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That was one of the
dimensionless variables.

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There were three, velocity,
flow velocity, and water depth

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and sediment size.

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But there's another one.

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This is all for that density
ratio, quartz sand and water,

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for example.

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So you have a whole
different diagram

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with whole different
existence fields, similar

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but not the same, if you have
a different density ratio.

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Now, we made some experiments
with tungsten grains.

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We bought a ton of
tungsten particles.

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Tungsten has density
almost as high as gold.

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And we made bed forms.

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This is a project I
did in South Africa

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with some colleagues
in South Africa.

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I don't have a copy
of the publication.

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If I had, I would have tried
to put something in here.

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But anyway, that's the
way you could do it,

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is to somehow partition the
drag so that you look only

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at the skin friction part.

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And there are various
techniques that

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have been developed for drag
partitioning, and none of them

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works perfectly.

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Some of them work OK.

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But if you didn't do that,
if you didn't do that,

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then you can't use total
boundary shear stress.

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It's just a point that
you need to know about.

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This has probably
occurred to you.

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Are ripples and dunes different?

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Well, obviously they are.

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They're different in size.

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They're different in behavior.

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And they're different
in origin as well.

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And there's something
called a spectral gap.

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Current ripples
in water on Earth

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are seldom bigger than
about a decimeter.

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Dunes, however, are seldom
less than about a half meter,

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even in shallow flows.

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So there's a gap, a spectral
gap, in sizes there.

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Ripple spacing is almost
independent of flow depth.

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You can have flows that
are half meter deep,

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and you make ripples.

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You can have flows that
are 10 meters deep,

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and you have the same
ripples down there,

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if you have the same
near bed flow velocity.

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Dunes, on the other
hand, the dune spacing

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goes as the water
depth by something

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like a factor of 5 to 10.

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So they really do
change with water depth

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considerably, which is
good for interpretation

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because if you can back out
dune size from your outcrop,

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then you'd have something to
say about the water depth.

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This is something
I'd like to address.

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And I've been thinking
about it for years.

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There have been various papers
written by various people

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on making stability analyses to
explain the dynamics of ripples

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and dunes.

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You start with a planar bed,
and you have a flow over it,

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and you make a
little disturbance.

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And sometimes that disturbance
generates bedforms.

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And you saw that
when I was talking

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about the incipient
ripples earlier, last time.

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But sometimes it gets washed
out again, and it's unstable.

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And so you have to do
that kind of thinking

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to try to account for why there
are ripples in the first place

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and why there are dunes
in the first place.

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And I'm not addressing that.

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But you should be
aware that's a problem.

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How about Mars?

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I'm going to come
back to Mars because

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these planetary
sedimentologists have

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to worry about things on Mars.

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And so you could redo
this diagram just the way

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it was, but plug in different
gravity, which you can do.

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And here are the results that
I figured out a long time ago.

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From one kind of
bed form to another

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takes place at lower velocity on
Mars by a factor of about 0.74.

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And if you look at the change
from one kind of bed form

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to another takes place larger
by a factor of about 1.36.

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That's, I think, my
almost total contribution

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to planetary sedimentology.

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No, there's going to be
another one coming along,

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too, that I'll mention later.

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So now we're on to
oscillatory flow bed forms,

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which are just as important.

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How do you make oscillatory
bed forms in the laboratory?

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We've done this.

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It's a tank, a horizontal
tank, sediment bed.

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And you have a wave generator,
either paddle back and forth,

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or you could have a
piston going up and down,

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and the waves go down
to the other end.

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And what you have to do
is put in a total wave

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absorber at the other
end, so you don't get

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reflected waves, because then
you'd have standing waves.

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And we don't want that.

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But you can also do this.

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And we did this big
time in building

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N9, back about 20 years
ago with Bill Arnold

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and one of his students.

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You can have a liquid
pendulum in which you

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take a tank with reservoirs,
and you move the level of water

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in the reservoirs back and
forth with some sort of piston.

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And it works.

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And you can make nice
bed forms that way.

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This looks very clever.

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You have still water and
a thing that moves back,

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oscillates back and forth, and
you can make ripples with it.

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But the ripples aren't
the same as the others.

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So people have written
papers about that.

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They have to admit
that it doesn't really

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work for natural environments.

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But they've done it.

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So this is the first order here.

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This is the big message, if you
want to look at it that way.

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Details later.

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So as you keep increasing
the oscillatory velocity--

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there's no current
involved here.

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You have straight to
two-dimensional ripples,

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regular straight
two-dimensional.

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And then at a certain
point-- and I'm

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going to get into this
more in a couple of slides.

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They're small, but they
get three-dimensional.

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And then they get
larger and larger

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into large three-dimensional.

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And finally, at the
highest velocities,

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you get a plane bed again.

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That's the basic message
here, what goes on.

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But we'll try to go beyond that.

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So here we go again.

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We're going to make another
dimensional analysis.

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And so just-- assuming
that you're doing it.

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And so we're going to use
either oscillation period

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T, orbital diameter d0,
or maximum velocity,

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orbital velocity, Um.

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And it turns out-- and I'm going
to show it in the next slide--

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those three are not
independent of one another.

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There's a relationship,
Um T equals pi d0.

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So only two of them can
be chosen independently.

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And what we're going to do
is choose period and velocity

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for that.

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But I just want you to be aware
that those are the only two

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you need to account for
what waves do on the bottom.

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And so you get another
three-dimensional graph.

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I keep giving you these
three-dimensional graphs,

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oscillatory velocity Um,
oscillation period T,

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sediment size d.

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And this is what
I mentioned here,

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that you have this relationship,
which I'm not proving to you.

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But there it is.

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Now, you can section
various ways.

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There's three ways
you can section.

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And it gets a
little complicated.

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But I have to point out
that in a laboratory tank

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or channel with waves--

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I'm sorry.

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Let me start again.

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If you had an oscillatory flow
duct, like that liquid pendulum

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thing, you're at
liberty to specify

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any orbital diameter,
any orbital velocity,

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any wave period you want.

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But real waves don't work that
way because the way waves work,

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there's a certain range.

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There's only a certain
range of those variables

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that are actually
produced at the bed

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under shoaling water waves.

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So if you think of that
three-dimensional graph,

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there's some volume in there,
which is realistic for waves.

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And the other areas are
not realistic for waves,

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even though you can make
them in a laboratory.

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That's how we have
to live with that.

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But in this permissible
volume, if I can call it

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that, there are
existence fields,

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three-dimensional
existence fields,

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same way there was for
unidirectional flow.

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Does that make sense to you?

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You can picture in the--
there's this volume in there

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that things could be
happening under waves.

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And there's various
kinds of small

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versus large, straight crested
versus three-dimensional are

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going to be in there somewhere.

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Every ripple you
can possibly make

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would be in this
three-dimensional diagram.

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But the trouble
is not every point

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in the diagram is occupied
by a bed configuration.

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That's what I just
pointed out to you.

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So how do you get
data on these things?

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Well, experimental tanks and
channels have been done often.

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There's a size limit.

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You can build an enormous,
enormous wave channel

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and make real waves.

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And they had one at the US Army
Corps of Engineers Waterways

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Experiment Station.

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They had one of
these enormous tanks.

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But you're still limited.

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Out in nature, there are plenty
of 10 to 15 second wave periods.

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And you can't make one
of those in a laboratory.

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So there's a definite limit.

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Or you can make observations
of shallow ocean.

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And there's been
studies to do that.

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But it's tough because
it has to endure storms.

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You have to record
the stuff somehow.

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You have to wait a long time
until a storm comes along.

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But people try to do it, and
it's a valuable thing to do.

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So this is a graph that
I took from my notes.

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It's just one section, a
velocity period section,

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for sand size about point 0.01,
0.02 millimeters of fine sand.

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And let me tell you
some things about this.

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These downward sloping
lines are contours

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of equal d0, which has to
be in there because you've

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collapsed a three-dimensional
down into two dimensions.

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And these planes of equal
d0 would come out as lines

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through the graph.

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I'm not showing you all the
nature of the data points.

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But all of the solid
diamonds and the open circles

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are relatively low velocities
and oscillation periods.

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And then the ones up in here
the squares, the open squares,

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solid squares, and
some other things,

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are for much larger oscillation
ripples that get produced.

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And I've tried to contour.

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These are-- and I don't
think-- did I say this?

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Yeah, dashed curves,
ripple spacing.

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I tried to contour
the ripple spacing.

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And they increase
very regularly up

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from lower left to upper right.

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But there's another curve
in here, the solid curve.

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And that's an important curve.

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Everything below that curve
is two-dimensional bedforms.

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And up above that is
three-dimensional bedforms.

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It's not a definite cutoff.

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It's not like one of those
boundaries in ripples and dunes

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in your directional flow.

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There's a gradation.

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There's a range in here
around that line in which

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the ripples start to be
three-dimensional and then

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become three-dimensional.

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I made that long ago.

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And I never followed up
and made others like it.

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But there it is.

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Some pictures-- it probably
won't surprise you, ripples,

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oscillation ripples,
small-scale oscillations,

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typically straight-crested
and regular.

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There are tuning
forks, often, you see.

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This is from the
Moenkopi near Vegas.

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It's a nice section, a lot
of interesting stuff in it.

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And there again you have a
tuning fork junction and still

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another from the same place.

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I don't know where that's from.

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That's a lens cap up
on the top, but again,

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straight-crested regular.

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They're rounded off at the top.

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And I'm not sure why.

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This is classic, classic
small-scale straight-crested

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oscillation ripples from
the Ferron sandstone

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member of the Mancos and
looking straight down on it.

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There's a pen or a pencil
for scale over there

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and a similar kind of thing
from the Cardium up in Alberta.

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Now, what's going on here?

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Explain that to me.

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The hint, of course,
is that we're dealing

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with oscillation ripples.

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So what do you make of that?

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I have to challenge
you guys now and then.

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Well, what I should have
done is put the next slide in

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and turn it upside down
because if you did that,

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it would just look
oscillation ripples.

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This is a slab that
came off something,

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and it fell upside down.

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That's what a ripple bed
looks like upside down.

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I've never seen that,
except just in one place.

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And now, on a
broader scale, this

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is a big flat tidal sandbar
off the coast of Eastham

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in Cape Cod, in Mass Bay.

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And you see, if you looked
at just a little area here,

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it would look sort of
like what we were doing.

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But when you look at all
the whole field there,

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there's a lot of sinuosity and
tuning fork junctions and things

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like that.

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There are a whole series of
these bars, one here, one here.

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You can count four or five
bars at spring low tide

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where the water is lowest.

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It's an amazing place.

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Some ripples-- you can see,
this one looks symmetrical.

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This one is
asymmetrical, but you

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can see the laminae inside the
ripples, indicating the ripples.

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We're moving in one direction,
shifting in one direction.

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And that can happen.

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That can happen in oscillatory
flow, even when it's

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purely oscillatory.

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And I'll tell you
more about that.

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They can get really big.

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We made this in an oscillatory
flow duct with a long period.

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And they're big.

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These are centimeters here.

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This is an amazing photograph.

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I didn't take it.

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My long-term colleague
and mentor, John Harms,

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gave me this slide,
copied this slide for me.

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And this is a half a meter,
I think, half a meter scale.

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And these are big.

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They're a meter plus scale.

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They're probably in
coarse sand, I'm guessing.

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They're very
straight-pressed and regular.

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And I've never seen one
of those in my doings.

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But he showed it.

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Now, this my favorite outcrop.

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It's a win.

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AUDIENCE: Does the spacing
between the oscillatory ripples

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vary with flow depth
the same way you

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have with unidirectional flow?

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And can you backtrack?

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JOHN SOUTHARD: Well, go back
to the graph with all the data

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points on it, remember.

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And we contoured the spacing.

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So it varies with both
variables, not just one.

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That's a rock hammer.

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You see the rock hammer.

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And if you look at that, you can
recognize there are hummocks,

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and there are swales.

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And they're isotropic
in the sense

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that they don't bend one
way or bend the other way.

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And I remember looking
at this outcrop-- it's

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a little bigger than what
I took the picture of--

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and you can sense that
the hummocks are arranged

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in a hexagonal pattern.

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And in the middle of the
hexagon, there's a swale.

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And I even, in one place-- and
I can't point it out to you--

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there's a place where
within the swale,

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there's a little miniature
hummock right in the swale.

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It's amazing, my
favorite outcrop.

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But I went back here some years
afterward, maybe 8 or 10 years.

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It had fallen apart,
a tragic loss.

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It had fallen apart.

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And it's not there anymore.

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I don't remember where
I took this photo.

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There's a rock hammer there.

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But it's, again, hummocky
swale, although it

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has some lineation to it, and
it's somewhat asymmetrical.

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And this I want you
to keep this in mind

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when we talk about
combined flow bedforms.

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It's not that great
a picture, but it

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shows some interesting things.

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Here's a close-up from
straight down on a hummock.

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And you can convince
yourself that it's

00:25:36.990 --> 00:25:39.910 align:middle line:84%
three-armed, one this way,
one that way and one that way,

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with a peak to it.

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And I think this
was from somewhere--

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somewhere in Canada, I was
looking at it with Roger Walker,

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but I can't remember where.

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This is another one
of my favorite chunks.

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I carried this
out of the outcrop

00:25:54.030 --> 00:25:56.910 align:middle line:84%
from the wood canyon in
the Southern Nopah Range.

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And here's the scale, a
hummock here, a swale,

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a hummock over here.

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And the whole bed, presumably,
was like that hummocky swale,

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on a medium scale, a
couple of decimeters.

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And if you look closely--

00:26:11.223 --> 00:26:12.890 align:middle line:84%
and this is getting
ahead of ourselves--

00:26:12.890 --> 00:26:15.470 align:middle line:84%
the stratification
here is medium scale

00:26:15.470 --> 00:26:16.768 align:middle line:90%
hummocky cross-stratification.

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And I'm going to say a
lot more about that coming

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up soon in the next session.

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Now, I'm going to take a
shortcut here and show you

00:26:26.370 --> 00:26:30.290 align:middle line:84%
a couple of graphs that show
that there are things called

00:26:30.290 --> 00:26:33.690 align:middle line:84%
orbital ripples, spacing
consistently just a little less

00:26:33.690 --> 00:26:37.690 align:middle line:84%
than the orbital diameter,
through a transition in what

00:26:37.690 --> 00:26:40.930 align:middle line:84%
are called suborbital, and
orbital ripples, largely

00:26:40.930 --> 00:26:44.770 align:middle line:84%
independent of the
spacing, but it

00:26:44.770 --> 00:26:47.650 align:middle line:90%
is dependent on particle size.

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You get, in fine sand,
only in fine sands,

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and in very long
excursion distances,

00:26:55.890 --> 00:27:01.330 align:middle line:84%
you get ripples that look
like current ripples.

00:27:01.330 --> 00:27:04.090 align:middle line:84%
This is from a classic paper
written by my colleague,

00:27:04.090 --> 00:27:07.930 align:middle line:84%
Ed Clifton, way back--
he died a few years ago--

00:27:07.930 --> 00:27:09.970 align:middle line:90%
in which he plotted--

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and I think I have the
axis, lambda-- that's

00:27:17.300 --> 00:27:19.920 align:middle line:84%
the spacing-- over
the square root of D.

00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:23.100 align:middle line:84%
I don't know why he did that
because it's not dimensionless.

00:27:23.100 --> 00:27:29.380 align:middle line:84%
And the horizontal axis is
the d0 over D. Let me go back.

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And so there's a trend here.

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And those are the
orbital ripples.

00:27:34.020 --> 00:27:36.180 align:middle line:84%
And then it breaks
through some messiness

00:27:36.180 --> 00:27:41.300 align:middle line:84%
and comes out to a big
group of anorbital ripples.

00:27:41.300 --> 00:27:44.260 align:middle line:84%
These are data from both
laboratory and field.

00:27:44.260 --> 00:27:45.700 align:middle line:90%
It's not the only one.

00:27:45.700 --> 00:27:48.260 align:middle line:90%
I can skip that.

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In a more recent study-- this
is from Pat Wiberg and her

00:27:51.140 --> 00:27:55.700 align:middle line:84%
colleague back in the late
'90s, the same kind of--

00:27:55.700 --> 00:28:01.920 align:middle line:84%
they plotted spacing
over D and d0 over D,

00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:03.200 align:middle line:90%
so it's a real dimensionless.

00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:04.700 align:middle line:84%
And you can see, there's
a whole bunch of points

00:28:04.700 --> 00:28:06.580 align:middle line:84%
here, both from
field and laboratory

00:28:06.580 --> 00:28:09.780 align:middle line:90%
data that are orbital ripples.

00:28:09.780 --> 00:28:10.920 align:middle line:90%
They go with the space.

00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.160 align:middle line:90%
They go with the spacing.

00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:14.690 align:middle line:84%
But there's a whole
bunch out here,

00:28:14.690 --> 00:28:16.310 align:middle line:90%
which are totally separate.

00:28:16.310 --> 00:28:18.170 align:middle line:90%
Those only field data.

00:28:18.170 --> 00:28:20.070 align:middle line:84%
And those are an
anorbital ripples.

00:28:20.070 --> 00:28:21.950 align:middle line:84%
So it seems strange,
doesn't it, that you

00:28:21.950 --> 00:28:24.630 align:middle line:84%
can make both orbital
ripples and anorbital ripples

00:28:24.630 --> 00:28:27.750 align:middle line:84%
in the lab, but the only
ones you see in the field

00:28:27.750 --> 00:28:29.830 align:middle line:90%
are anorbital ripples.

00:28:29.830 --> 00:28:32.950 align:middle line:84%
There's another
example from a paper

00:28:32.950 --> 00:28:37.270 align:middle line:84%
we wrote in 2005, in
which these are the--

00:28:37.270 --> 00:28:41.090 align:middle line:84%
I won't go into details, but
these are the vortex ripples,

00:28:41.090 --> 00:28:43.650 align:middle line:84%
and these are the
orbital ripples.

00:28:43.650 --> 00:28:48.670 align:middle line:84%
And those down in the left-hand
corner are anorbital ripples.

00:28:48.670 --> 00:28:51.870 align:middle line:84%
So this summarizes what
I'm trying to tell you here

00:28:51.870 --> 00:28:53.590 align:middle line:90%
without a lot of details.

00:28:53.590 --> 00:28:54.930 align:middle line:90%
But somehow they're different.

00:28:54.930 --> 00:28:57.590 align:middle line:84%
There's some of instability
that makes them different.

00:28:57.590 --> 00:29:00.870 align:middle line:90%


00:29:00.870 --> 00:29:03.012 align:middle line:84%
I've wondered for a long
time, and my colleagues

00:29:03.012 --> 00:29:04.470 align:middle line:84%
have also wondered
at the same time

00:29:04.470 --> 00:29:08.230 align:middle line:84%
with me, about whether
anorbital ripples are really

00:29:08.230 --> 00:29:11.150 align:middle line:84%
just reversing current
ripples because suppose

00:29:11.150 --> 00:29:15.010 align:middle line:84%
you have a very long orbital
diameter and a fairly

00:29:15.010 --> 00:29:16.850 align:middle line:84%
substantial velocity
over the bed.

00:29:16.850 --> 00:29:20.810 align:middle line:84%
So for the 10, 15, 20 seconds
that the flow flows this way,

00:29:20.810 --> 00:29:22.510 align:middle line:84%
current ripples
want to try to form.

00:29:22.510 --> 00:29:23.630 align:middle line:90%
They're opportunistic.

00:29:23.630 --> 00:29:25.910 align:middle line:84%
They form whenever the
current velocity is right.

00:29:25.910 --> 00:29:26.947 align:middle line:90%
And then it reverses.

00:29:26.947 --> 00:29:28.030 align:middle line:90%
You go back the other way.

00:29:28.030 --> 00:29:29.490 align:middle line:90%
They're still there.

00:29:29.490 --> 00:29:31.350 align:middle line:84%
But they flip over
and grow some more.

00:29:31.350 --> 00:29:33.230 align:middle line:84%
And you go back and
forth and back and forth,

00:29:33.230 --> 00:29:37.650 align:middle line:84%
and you end up with anorbital
ripples that are basically

00:29:37.650 --> 00:29:40.570 align:middle line:84%
current ripples that can't make
up their minds which way to go,

00:29:40.570 --> 00:29:42.370 align:middle line:84%
if you want to look
at it that way.

00:29:42.370 --> 00:29:44.070 align:middle line:84%
I'm not sure I'm
right about that.

00:29:44.070 --> 00:29:45.778 align:middle line:84%
And I've talked with
colleagues about it,

00:29:45.778 --> 00:29:49.570 align:middle line:84%
and there's some agreement among
us that that's the way it works.

00:29:49.570 --> 00:29:51.650 align:middle line:84%
Now, there's something
called ladder-back ripples

00:29:51.650 --> 00:29:55.710 align:middle line:84%
or cross-ripples, which,
to me, are mysterious.

00:29:55.710 --> 00:29:56.470 align:middle line:90%
Look at that.

00:29:56.470 --> 00:29:57.630 align:middle line:90%
I forget where I took that.

00:29:57.630 --> 00:29:58.550 align:middle line:90%
That's my scale.

00:29:58.550 --> 00:30:01.770 align:middle line:90%
So I took that picture.

00:30:01.770 --> 00:30:05.870 align:middle line:84%
And you can see, there's some
major oscillation ripples.

00:30:05.870 --> 00:30:09.290 align:middle line:84%
And then in the troughs,
there are some minor, smaller

00:30:09.290 --> 00:30:10.150 align:middle line:90%
oscillation ripples.

00:30:10.150 --> 00:30:12.300 align:middle line:84%
They're almost the
same size, I guess.

00:30:12.300 --> 00:30:13.820 align:middle line:90%
Here's another example.

00:30:13.820 --> 00:30:15.740 align:middle line:84%
That's a watch for
scale in the middle.

00:30:15.740 --> 00:30:19.640 align:middle line:84%
So these are the main
oscillation ripples.

00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.440 align:middle line:84%
But look at all the
smaller ones in the--

00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.060 align:middle line:84%
now, is that because
of something,

00:30:24.060 --> 00:30:26.720 align:middle line:84%
how it works under
these conditions?

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Or is it you made the
large ripples first,

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and then things changed,
and you got oscillation

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from the other direction,
which seems to me to possibly.

00:30:34.260 --> 00:30:38.060 align:middle line:84%
And I don't know how
you tell the difference.

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So here's the two
ways you maybe could

00:30:41.540 --> 00:30:44.780 align:middle line:84%
make them, non-parallel
oscillations

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or a single component
under certain conditions.

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And that's what I
want to get to next.

00:30:48.520 --> 00:30:51.620 align:middle line:90%


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Ed Clifton, who I mentioned,
organized some data

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from various places, shoaling
waves, waves coming in,

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shoaling, finally
breaking on the shore.

00:31:01.780 --> 00:31:04.660 align:middle line:84%
And out in the
fairly deep water,

00:31:04.660 --> 00:31:09.182 align:middle line:84%
you get active, long-crested
or oscillation ripples

00:31:09.182 --> 00:31:09.890 align:middle line:90%
we're looking at.

00:31:09.890 --> 00:31:11.190 align:middle line:90%
Then they get irregular.

00:31:11.190 --> 00:31:14.630 align:middle line:84%
Then you get cross-ripples for
reasons I have no idea why.

00:31:14.630 --> 00:31:19.330 align:middle line:84%
And then when the waves
break and run up the beach,

00:31:19.330 --> 00:31:22.190 align:middle line:84%
you get what you call
lunate megaripples.

00:31:22.190 --> 00:31:24.670 align:middle line:84%
They're not oscillation
ripples anymore.

00:31:24.670 --> 00:31:27.990 align:middle line:90%


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I have no idea how this formed,
pentagonal oscillation ripples,

00:31:32.470 --> 00:31:35.550 align:middle line:90%
no idea how it formed.

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I took that when
Palmeiro was just

00:31:38.750 --> 00:31:41.900 align:middle line:84%
finishing his doctoral
thesis up there in St. Johns,

00:31:41.900 --> 00:31:43.790 align:middle line:84%
in Newfoundland,
and we went across

00:31:43.790 --> 00:31:46.303 align:middle line:84%
to Bell Island and a lot
of interesting stuff.

00:31:46.303 --> 00:31:46.970 align:middle line:90%
And there it is.

00:31:46.970 --> 00:31:50.670 align:middle line:90%
I don't know anything about it.

00:31:50.670 --> 00:31:53.770 align:middle line:84%
So now, this may be
counterintuitive to you,

00:31:53.770 --> 00:31:58.390 align:middle line:84%
but oscillation ripples formed
in purely oscillatory flow--

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AUDIENCE: What if one of the
orientations of variables was

00:32:04.510 --> 00:32:06.472 align:middle line:90%
3D, and one was 2D?

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JOHN SOUTHARD: Are you talking
about the pentagonal ripples

00:32:08.930 --> 00:32:10.770 align:middle line:90%
now?

00:32:10.770 --> 00:32:13.850 align:middle line:84%
Maybe there are three or
more different oscillation

00:32:13.850 --> 00:32:16.250 align:middle line:84%
components, maybe
something like that.

00:32:16.250 --> 00:32:16.932 align:middle line:90%
I don't know.

00:32:16.932 --> 00:32:17.890 align:middle line:90%
AUDIENCE: It's so cool.

00:32:17.890 --> 00:32:18.210 align:middle line:90%
JOHN SOUTHARD: I know.

00:32:18.210 --> 00:32:19.190 align:middle line:90%
It's amazing.

00:32:19.190 --> 00:32:22.450 align:middle line:84%
So ripples formed under
purely oscillatory flow

00:32:22.450 --> 00:32:24.770 align:middle line:90%
aren't always symmetrical.

00:32:24.770 --> 00:32:26.810 align:middle line:84%
Now, way back in
hour one, I told you

00:32:26.810 --> 00:32:29.610 align:middle line:84%
about how under
shoaling waves, there's

00:32:29.610 --> 00:32:33.570 align:middle line:90%
fast and short, slow and long.

00:32:33.570 --> 00:32:36.010 align:middle line:84%
The water doesn't go
anywhere on a net basis,

00:32:36.010 --> 00:32:39.310 align:middle line:84%
but because sediment transport
rate is so steeply climbing,

00:32:39.310 --> 00:32:42.210 align:middle line:84%
a function of the flow
velocity, that you end up

00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:45.330 align:middle line:84%
getting net transport
towards shore,

00:32:45.330 --> 00:32:48.870 align:middle line:84%
and you can get asymmetrical,
purely oscillatory flow.

00:32:48.870 --> 00:32:51.050 align:middle line:84%
It seems counterintuitive,
but it happens.

00:32:51.050 --> 00:32:53.230 align:middle line:84%
Now, a little bit on the
eolian bed configurations--

00:32:53.230 --> 00:32:55.730 align:middle line:84%
I'm not going to
say a lot about it.

00:32:55.730 --> 00:32:59.050 align:middle line:84%
I mentioned barchans
early on when we talked

00:32:59.050 --> 00:33:01.530 align:middle line:90%
about sediment transport.

00:33:01.530 --> 00:33:02.750 align:middle line:90%
Those are miniature.

00:33:02.750 --> 00:33:03.510 align:middle line:90%
These are major.

00:33:03.510 --> 00:33:05.740 align:middle line:90%
These are big, big ones.

00:33:05.740 --> 00:33:07.680 align:middle line:90%
I forgot where that is even.

00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.020 align:middle line:84%
And here's a more distant view
from the air of an isolated

00:33:12.020 --> 00:33:13.860 align:middle line:90%
barchan.

00:33:13.860 --> 00:33:16.660 align:middle line:84%
So I'm not going to say
anything more about barchans.

00:33:16.660 --> 00:33:20.500 align:middle line:84%
Read Bagnold's book if you
want to know about barchans.

00:33:20.500 --> 00:33:23.700 align:middle line:84%
So classic wind ripples-- now,
at first glance, you look at

00:33:23.700 --> 00:33:26.080 align:middle line:84%
and say, oh, they're
oscillation ripples underwater.

00:33:26.080 --> 00:33:28.760 align:middle line:84%
But they're very
distinctive in their shape.

00:33:28.760 --> 00:33:31.757 align:middle line:84%
They're asymmetrical, and they
have grain-size segregation

00:33:31.757 --> 00:33:34.340 align:middle line:84%
that's very different from what
you'd find in oscillatory flow

00:33:34.340 --> 00:33:37.420 align:middle line:90%
ripples.

00:33:37.420 --> 00:33:39.080 align:middle line:90%
They can get fairly good size.

00:33:39.080 --> 00:33:41.180 align:middle line:84%
Here are some that are
getting up pretty big.

00:33:41.180 --> 00:33:43.460 align:middle line:84%
There's not a scale in
there, except for the bush,

00:33:43.460 --> 00:33:44.480 align:middle line:90%
unfortunately.

00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.060 align:middle line:90%
I should have put a scale in.

00:33:46.060 --> 00:33:52.440 align:middle line:84%
But they're decked with smaller
scale wind ripples as well.

00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:53.940 align:middle line:84%
Now, if you look
at the dunes, there

00:33:53.940 --> 00:33:57.040 align:middle line:84%
are a lot of active coastal
dunes along the coast of Oregon,

00:33:57.040 --> 00:33:57.840 align:middle line:90%
for example.

00:33:57.840 --> 00:34:00.605 align:middle line:84%
I'm out there with
my colleagues.

00:34:00.605 --> 00:34:02.480 align:middle line:84%
They take me out there
to show me this stuff.

00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.800 align:middle line:84%
And you can see
the stoss surface

00:34:04.800 --> 00:34:10.239 align:middle line:84%
of the dune, strong eolian
transport, no ripples, plane bed

00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.600 align:middle line:84%
transport, reach the
crest, and the grains that

00:34:13.600 --> 00:34:16.760 align:middle line:84%
are deposited at the crest
slide down the crest.

00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:21.280 align:middle line:84%
This is a view of the same
dune with-- here's a slip face

00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:24.080 align:middle line:84%
at angle of repose,
and the grains slide

00:34:24.080 --> 00:34:28.400 align:middle line:84%
down as little miniature grain
flows out onto the-- this

00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.380 align:middle line:84%
is an earlier dune that
this one is overriding.

00:34:31.380 --> 00:34:34.280 align:middle line:90%


00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.840 align:middle line:84%
Now I have to say some things
about combined-flow bedforms,

00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:39.480 align:middle line:84%
but I'm not happy
with it because I

00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:41.040 align:middle line:90%
don't know much about it.

00:34:41.040 --> 00:34:43.100 align:middle line:84%
I don't think anybody
knows much about it.

00:34:43.100 --> 00:34:45.340 align:middle line:84%
It's a jungle, when
you think about it.

00:34:45.340 --> 00:34:49.020 align:middle line:84%
You have all the things that
go on in unidirectional flow,

00:34:49.020 --> 00:34:51.195 align:middle line:84%
everything that's going
on in oscillatory flow,

00:34:51.195 --> 00:34:53.320 align:middle line:84%
and everything in between,
when you combine the two

00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.560 align:middle line:84%
flows in various ways, and
you get an enormous variety

00:34:56.560 --> 00:34:58.400 align:middle line:84%
of bed configurations,
and therefore,

00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.760 align:middle line:84%
an enormous variety of
sedimentary structures.

00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:02.870 align:middle line:90%
And it's a jungle.

00:35:02.870 --> 00:35:06.790 align:middle line:84%
It's a dog's breakfast, as
John Grotzinger likes to say.

00:35:06.790 --> 00:35:09.530 align:middle line:90%


00:35:09.530 --> 00:35:14.030 align:middle line:90%
So that's the topic.

00:35:14.030 --> 00:35:16.690 align:middle line:84%
How do you make combined-flow
bed configurations?

00:35:16.690 --> 00:35:19.250 align:middle line:90%
Well, you can do it in the lab.

00:35:19.250 --> 00:35:24.170 align:middle line:84%
If you have a unidirectional
flow and a parallel oscillation,

00:35:24.170 --> 00:35:25.510 align:middle line:90%
it's pretty easy to do.

00:35:25.510 --> 00:35:28.650 align:middle line:84%
And we've done it
in our laboratory.

00:35:28.650 --> 00:35:33.250 align:middle line:84%
But if they're at right angles,
it might be doable in the lab.

00:35:33.250 --> 00:35:35.890 align:middle line:84%
I once thought about
writing a proposal

00:35:35.890 --> 00:35:39.970 align:middle line:84%
to build a flow channel with
flow and reservoir tanks

00:35:39.970 --> 00:35:40.990 align:middle line:90%
on the side.

00:35:40.990 --> 00:35:43.743 align:middle line:84%
And you can rock the
channel back and forth

00:35:43.743 --> 00:35:45.910 align:middle line:84%
to make an oscillation while
the current is flowing.

00:35:45.910 --> 00:35:46.630 align:middle line:90%
I never did it.

00:35:46.630 --> 00:35:50.250 align:middle line:84%
But I thought it would
be a cool idea to do.

00:35:50.250 --> 00:35:50.990 align:middle line:90%
It didn't do it.

00:35:50.990 --> 00:35:52.365 align:middle line:84%
Oh, wait a minute,
wait a minute.

00:35:52.365 --> 00:35:54.770 align:middle line:84%
And the third would
be to-- if you

00:35:54.770 --> 00:35:57.473 align:middle line:84%
have more than one
oscillatory component

00:35:57.473 --> 00:35:58.890 align:middle line:84%
plus the unidirectional
flow, this

00:35:58.890 --> 00:36:00.430 align:middle line:90%
would be very difficult to do.

00:36:00.430 --> 00:36:02.020 align:middle line:90%
And I think it's been done.

00:36:02.020 --> 00:36:03.760 align:middle line:90%
And I'm not into the literature.

00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.380 align:middle line:84%
You'd have to have a big wave
tank with wave makers here,

00:36:07.380 --> 00:36:10.000 align:middle line:84%
and wave makers over here,
and wave makers over here.

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.500 align:middle line:84%
Plus, you'd have to pump water
from one side of the tank

00:36:12.500 --> 00:36:14.060 align:middle line:84%
to the other and
produce the current.

00:36:14.060 --> 00:36:16.160 align:middle line:90%
And that's a big job.

00:36:16.160 --> 00:36:18.540 align:middle line:84%
And I don't think much
has been done on it.

00:36:18.540 --> 00:36:22.420 align:middle line:84%
So here we go again, another
dimensional analysis.

00:36:22.420 --> 00:36:25.740 align:middle line:84%
You need not just
max orbital velocity,

00:36:25.740 --> 00:36:29.820 align:middle line:84%
you need directional flow
velocity and period, period

00:36:29.820 --> 00:36:30.720 align:middle line:90%
and size.

00:36:30.720 --> 00:36:33.160 align:middle line:84%
So here you have four
variables instead of three.

00:36:33.160 --> 00:36:35.420 align:middle line:84%
Well now, I cannot, and I
don't think anybody can,

00:36:35.420 --> 00:36:38.360 align:middle line:84%
visualize a
four-dimensional diagram.

00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.798 align:middle line:84%
I think that's beyond
our capabilities.

00:36:40.798 --> 00:36:42.340 align:middle line:84%
So what you'd have
to think about is,

00:36:42.340 --> 00:36:44.340 align:middle line:84%
you make one of those
three-dimensional graphs

00:36:44.340 --> 00:36:47.860 align:middle line:84%
for every value of
the fourth variable.

00:36:47.860 --> 00:36:49.040 align:middle line:90%
And you could do that.

00:36:49.040 --> 00:36:50.460 align:middle line:84%
It's an enormous
job, and it would

00:36:50.460 --> 00:36:52.740 align:middle line:84%
take a lifetime
of experimentation

00:36:52.740 --> 00:36:54.440 align:middle line:90%
to fill in a graph like that.

00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:59.480 align:middle line:90%


00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:05.700 align:middle line:84%
So this is from before
and from earlier.

00:37:05.700 --> 00:37:10.800 align:middle line:84%
And now, we're dealing with
this oscillatory velocity,

00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:13.780 align:middle line:84%
versus oscillation period,
versus sediment size.

00:37:13.780 --> 00:37:15.240 align:middle line:84%
And you'd have to
do one of those

00:37:15.240 --> 00:37:18.200 align:middle line:84%
for every value of
unidirectional flow added

00:37:18.200 --> 00:37:19.200 align:middle line:90%
on to it.

00:37:19.200 --> 00:37:20.460 align:middle line:90%
It gets really messy.

00:37:20.460 --> 00:37:23.258 align:middle line:90%


00:37:23.258 --> 00:37:24.300 align:middle line:90%
We don't have to do this.

00:37:24.300 --> 00:37:27.282 align:middle line:84%
There's another way of-- there's
a velocity symmetry value,

00:37:27.282 --> 00:37:28.240 align:middle line:90%
but it's not important.

00:37:28.240 --> 00:37:29.260 align:middle line:90%
Don't worry about.

00:37:29.260 --> 00:37:30.520 align:middle line:90%
I'm not going to say anything.

00:37:30.520 --> 00:37:33.900 align:middle line:84%
So we're far from
filling these diagrams.

00:37:33.900 --> 00:37:36.760 align:middle line:90%
It's just the way it is.

00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:38.580 align:middle line:90%
Here's some nice papers.

00:37:38.580 --> 00:37:43.120 align:middle line:84%
In case you're interested, you
can pursue some of these papers.

00:37:43.120 --> 00:37:45.920 align:middle line:90%
Ours is one of them.

00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.920 align:middle line:84%
There was a student, one
of Bill Arnott's students

00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.600 align:middle line:84%
from University of
Ottawa, Simone Dumas,

00:37:52.600 --> 00:37:56.920 align:middle line:84%
came down to build and
operate a giant flow

00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.250 align:middle line:84%
channel, oscillatory
flow channel,

00:37:59.250 --> 00:38:03.130 align:middle line:84%
with unidirectional
flow as well.

00:38:03.130 --> 00:38:06.910 align:middle line:84%
She and I built this thing with
some help from other employees.

00:38:06.910 --> 00:38:10.890 align:middle line:84%
She was the person
who was the best arc

00:38:10.890 --> 00:38:13.850 align:middle line:84%
welder of any of the employees
and students I've ever had.

00:38:13.850 --> 00:38:16.610 align:middle line:84%
Now, I teach these people how to
do that because we build things.

00:38:16.610 --> 00:38:20.610 align:middle line:90%
And she was really good at it.

00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:24.850 align:middle line:84%
So here are some of the
ripples that she got.

00:38:24.850 --> 00:38:27.950 align:middle line:84%
This is for-- small-scale
bed forms range from,

00:38:27.950 --> 00:38:30.970 align:middle line:84%
as you might imagine,
symmetrical to somewhat 3D

00:38:30.970 --> 00:38:34.550 align:middle line:84%
to very 3D and on into
basic current ripples.

00:38:34.550 --> 00:38:37.730 align:middle line:84%
And you can do the same kind
of thing for large ripples,

00:38:37.730 --> 00:38:41.770 align:middle line:84%
again, symmetrical for almost
purely oscillatory flow.

00:38:41.770 --> 00:38:43.890 align:middle line:84%
They get a little
three-dimensional,

00:38:43.890 --> 00:38:45.870 align:middle line:84%
and they're somewhat
asymmetrical.

00:38:45.870 --> 00:38:52.110 align:middle line:84%
Then they get to be
more three-dimensional,

00:38:52.110 --> 00:38:54.610 align:middle line:84%
and then you finally get to
dunes and your directional flow.

00:38:54.610 --> 00:38:56.340 align:middle line:84%
So that's a way
of looking at it.

00:38:56.340 --> 00:38:59.240 align:middle line:84%
She made these conclusions
based on all the experiments,

00:38:59.240 --> 00:39:01.400 align:middle line:84%
all the runs she
made in the duct.

00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.900 align:middle line:84%
And this is her graph, which
is a good one, oscillatory flow

00:39:04.900 --> 00:39:07.860 align:middle line:84%
velocity versus
unidirectional flow velocity.

00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:11.540 align:middle line:84%
And this is for a particular
size, 0.14 millimeters size,

00:39:11.540 --> 00:39:14.800 align:middle line:84%
8 second period, which is pretty
realistic of things in nature.

00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.260 align:middle line:84%
And you can see, you
get no movement, lots

00:39:18.260 --> 00:39:20.900 align:middle line:90%
of rugged bedforms, plane bed.

00:39:20.900 --> 00:39:23.140 align:middle line:84%
And she has these
lines, but she explains

00:39:23.140 --> 00:39:27.220 align:middle line:84%
in the text of the paper
that those are gradations.

00:39:27.220 --> 00:39:29.760 align:middle line:84%
There's a gradation between
symmetric large ripples,

00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.920 align:middle line:84%
asymmetric large ripples,
asymmetric small ripples,

00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.157 align:middle line:84%
and symmetric small ripples
with no definite boundaries.

00:39:36.157 --> 00:39:37.740 align:middle line:84%
So this is one of
these diagrams where

00:39:37.740 --> 00:39:39.657 align:middle line:84%
we don't have a lot of
nice boundaries the way

00:39:39.657 --> 00:39:44.520 align:middle line:84%
we did in unidirectional flow,
which we have to live with.

00:39:44.520 --> 00:39:47.240 align:middle line:84%
This was one that I
did with Bill Arnott.

00:39:47.240 --> 00:39:49.400 align:middle line:84%
And we published a
paper earlier than that.

00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.420 align:middle line:84%
And it shows the same kind
of thing with data points.

00:39:52.420 --> 00:39:54.280 align:middle line:90%
And there's another one--

00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:55.700 align:middle line:90%
oh, there's not another one.

00:39:55.700 --> 00:39:59.800 align:middle line:84%
There's one in the addendum,
which I didn't include here,

00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.940 align:middle line:84%
a more recent paper
by Perillo et al,

00:40:02.940 --> 00:40:05.040 align:middle line:84%
Mauricio Perillo,
my young colleague,

00:40:05.040 --> 00:40:09.480 align:middle line:84%
and they did a very similar kind
of duct and similar experiments.

00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:10.900 align:middle line:90%
Look at this.

00:40:10.900 --> 00:40:14.060 align:middle line:84%
And they produced just
the same kind of graph.

00:40:14.060 --> 00:40:16.900 align:middle line:84%
But it's nice to look at
because it has colors in it.

00:40:16.900 --> 00:40:18.780 align:middle line:84%
And that's in the
addendum there.

00:40:18.780 --> 00:40:20.280 align:middle line:84%
I'm pretty sure
it's in the addendum

00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.260 align:middle line:84%
if you want to look
at it sometime.

00:40:23.260 --> 00:40:26.280 align:middle line:84%
Photo to come, but I
don't have any photos.

00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:30.240 align:middle line:84%
I've never taken a photo of
what I think to be or are

00:40:30.240 --> 00:40:33.040 align:middle line:84%
know to be a
combined-flow bed form.

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And that's just the way it is.

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There are photographs
from the experiments.

00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:40.060 align:middle line:90%
And I don't have access to them.

00:40:40.060 --> 00:40:43.020 align:middle line:84%
I tried to get them, couldn't
get them easily enough.

00:40:43.020 --> 00:40:47.160 align:middle line:90%
So now, it is getting late.

00:40:47.160 --> 00:40:49.977 align:middle line:84%
And it's time to
start on number four.

00:40:49.977 --> 00:40:52.060 align:middle line:84%
So now, we're dealing with
sedimentary structures.

00:40:52.060 --> 00:40:53.970 align:middle line:84%
We're going to look
at rocks now and see

00:40:53.970 --> 00:40:56.170 align:middle line:90%
what the structures are like.

00:40:56.170 --> 00:40:58.770 align:middle line:84%
Now, I don't want to insult
your intelligence, but a stratum

00:40:58.770 --> 00:41:02.050 align:middle line:84%
or stratum, distinctive
layer of deposited sediment.

00:41:02.050 --> 00:41:03.370 align:middle line:90%
And it can be tabular.

00:41:03.370 --> 00:41:05.330 align:middle line:90%
It can be non-tabular.

00:41:05.330 --> 00:41:13.610 align:middle line:84%
And there's a conventional
lamina versus bed.

00:41:13.610 --> 00:41:14.830 align:middle line:90%
This is a terrible term.

00:41:14.830 --> 00:41:16.890 align:middle line:84%
Never used this
term, laminations.

00:41:16.890 --> 00:41:19.390 align:middle line:84%
It's either lamination or
laminae, one or the other,

00:41:19.390 --> 00:41:20.970 align:middle line:90%
but not laminations.

00:41:20.970 --> 00:41:22.590 align:middle line:90%
This is the editor.

00:41:22.590 --> 00:41:25.090 align:middle line:84%
This is the copy editor in
me speaking-- no, really, I'm

00:41:25.090 --> 00:41:25.590 align:middle line:90%
serious.

00:41:25.590 --> 00:41:26.590 align:middle line:90%
A lot of people say that.

00:41:26.590 --> 00:41:28.460 align:middle line:84%
And you know the difference
between texture and structure,

00:41:28.460 --> 00:41:28.960 align:middle line:90%
right?

00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.370 align:middle line:84%
We're dealing with structures
here, not textures.

00:41:32.370 --> 00:41:36.670 align:middle line:84%
Modes of deposition-- this is
pretty simple to understand.

00:41:36.670 --> 00:41:38.588 align:middle line:84%
You can have fallout
without traction.

00:41:38.588 --> 00:41:39.630 align:middle line:90%
Clearly, you can do that.

00:41:39.630 --> 00:41:41.250 align:middle line:90%
And this happens many times.

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Or you can have
fallout with traction.

00:41:42.987 --> 00:41:45.070 align:middle line:84%
Particles are coming down,
being added to the bed,

00:41:45.070 --> 00:41:47.400 align:middle line:90%
so we get aggradation.

00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:49.150 align:middle line:84%
Differential transport
is a little tricky.

00:41:49.150 --> 00:41:50.195 align:middle line:90%
I want to show you that.

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And of course, there's
mass deposition,

00:41:51.820 --> 00:41:54.580 align:middle line:84%
like debris flows
grinding to a halt, which

00:41:54.580 --> 00:41:58.620 align:middle line:84%
is outside the scope
of this presentation.

00:41:58.620 --> 00:42:01.180 align:middle line:84%
So here's the flow,
a non-uniform flow.

00:42:01.180 --> 00:42:04.480 align:middle line:84%
It's deepening and slowing
as it goes downstream.

00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.020 align:middle line:84%
You have a flow velocity
U, a sediment transport

00:42:07.020 --> 00:42:10.040 align:middle line:90%
rate Qs at both sections.

00:42:10.040 --> 00:42:12.180 align:middle line:84%
But you can see that the
sediment transport rate

00:42:12.180 --> 00:42:14.760 align:middle line:90%
is greater here than down here.

00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.460 align:middle line:84%
So sediment must be
being stored on the bed.

00:42:17.460 --> 00:42:18.360 align:middle line:90%
That make sense?

00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:19.700 align:middle line:90%
That's bookkeeping.

00:42:19.700 --> 00:42:24.780 align:middle line:90%
And so that's-- well.

00:42:24.780 --> 00:42:26.460 align:middle line:84%
Deposition, you
have to think of,

00:42:26.460 --> 00:42:30.740 align:middle line:84%
it can be one or both
of two of those factors.

00:42:30.740 --> 00:42:33.680 align:middle line:84%
And we'd like to know how to
figure out which is which.

00:42:33.680 --> 00:42:35.160 align:middle line:84%
I don't think
that's an easy job.

00:42:35.160 --> 00:42:38.380 align:middle line:84%
But you have to be aware
that's how deposition works.

00:42:38.380 --> 00:42:41.720 align:middle line:84%
Mass deposition-- I'm going to
not go through this very fast.

00:42:41.720 --> 00:42:43.620 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to go
through this very fast.

00:42:43.620 --> 00:42:45.280 align:middle line:90%
Debris flows are important.

00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:50.840 align:middle line:84%
The bouma A, the lowest part
of a turbidity current deposit,

00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:52.088 align:middle line:90%
here's the bouma sequence.

00:42:52.088 --> 00:42:53.880 align:middle line:84%
You probably know about
the bouma sequence.

00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.200 align:middle line:90%
This part down here is massive.

00:42:57.200 --> 00:42:58.500 align:middle line:90%
And it involves mass flow.

00:42:58.500 --> 00:43:02.560 align:middle line:84%
We did some experiments on that
once with a master's student.

00:43:02.560 --> 00:43:04.660 align:middle line:84%
So here's another
way of looking at it.

00:43:04.660 --> 00:43:09.920 align:middle line:84%
If you have flow of a thick mass
of sediment, but it's flowing,

00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:14.060 align:middle line:84%
the shear stress, the shear,
is least up in the top.

00:43:14.060 --> 00:43:16.960 align:middle line:84%
So that means it will
freeze earlier at the top

00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:20.600 align:middle line:84%
and freeze gradually downward,
until finally, the whole thing

00:43:20.600 --> 00:43:24.440 align:middle line:84%
is a plug of sediment,
immobile, which I think

00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:26.320 align:middle line:90%
is a nice way of looking at it.

00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:30.280 align:middle line:84%
So we can deal with
planar lamination.

00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.220 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes people call planar
lamination plane-parallel.

00:43:33.220 --> 00:43:35.080 align:middle line:84%
Don't call it
horizontal lamination

00:43:35.080 --> 00:43:36.642 align:middle line:90%
because it's not horizontal.

00:43:36.642 --> 00:43:38.100 align:middle line:84%
It may have started
out horizontal.

00:43:38.100 --> 00:43:38.940 align:middle line:90%
It may not have.

00:43:38.940 --> 00:43:40.440 align:middle line:84%
But when you see
it, it's usually

00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:43.680 align:middle line:90%
not, so planar lamination.

00:43:43.680 --> 00:43:45.680 align:middle line:90%
It's called planar lamination.

00:43:45.680 --> 00:43:50.570 align:middle line:84%
Two kinds-- one, obviously, you
get a flow dropping sediment

00:43:50.570 --> 00:43:52.710 align:middle line:90%
without further traction.

00:43:52.710 --> 00:43:55.570 align:middle line:84%
And if the surface
is planar, it's

00:43:55.570 --> 00:43:57.810 align:middle line:84%
going to be building
up a deposit,

00:43:57.810 --> 00:43:59.890 align:middle line:90%
planar laminated deposit.

00:43:59.890 --> 00:44:02.690 align:middle line:84%
But you can also-- and I think
I've made this clear to you

00:44:02.690 --> 00:44:04.290 align:middle line:84%
already-- you can
have deposition

00:44:04.290 --> 00:44:07.250 align:middle line:84%
during traction,
active traction,

00:44:07.250 --> 00:44:09.850 align:middle line:90%
in the plane bed regime.

00:44:09.850 --> 00:44:15.410 align:middle line:84%
And so you build up a planar
laminated bed during transport.

00:44:15.410 --> 00:44:17.693 align:middle line:84%
I think this is from
Bill Arnott's field area.

00:44:17.693 --> 00:44:19.610 align:middle line:84%
I was on his thesis
committee, and we went out

00:44:19.610 --> 00:44:22.410 align:middle line:84%
for a glorious week in
Montana at his field area

00:44:22.410 --> 00:44:27.150 align:middle line:84%
after he passed his thesis
defense, and nice lamination.

00:44:27.150 --> 00:44:28.670 align:middle line:90%
That's a 15-centimeter scale.

00:44:28.670 --> 00:44:34.530 align:middle line:84%
So these laminae are a
fraction of a centimeter thick,

00:44:34.530 --> 00:44:36.530 align:middle line:90%
which is very typical.

00:44:36.530 --> 00:44:38.190 align:middle line:84%
It gets a little
more complicated.

00:44:38.190 --> 00:44:40.990 align:middle line:84%
I think this is in the same
section we were looking at,

00:44:40.990 --> 00:44:42.870 align:middle line:84%
and planar laminated,
planar laminated.

00:44:42.870 --> 00:44:46.220 align:middle line:84%
But looking here, you can see
some vague foresets in here.

00:44:46.220 --> 00:44:49.193 align:middle line:84%
So something happened to the
current, and it decreased.

00:44:49.193 --> 00:44:50.860 align:middle line:84%
And then it started
up again, and that's

00:44:50.860 --> 00:44:52.440 align:middle line:90%
how I interpret that anyway.

00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.700 align:middle line:90%
It's a little tricky.

00:44:54.700 --> 00:44:56.660 align:middle line:84%
A couple more slides--
you've probably seen

00:44:56.660 --> 00:44:58.320 align:middle line:90%
planar lamination in the field.

00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.860 align:middle line:90%


00:45:01.860 --> 00:45:05.660 align:middle line:84%
So there's an idea
floating around,

00:45:05.660 --> 00:45:08.560 align:middle line:84%
and one of my grad
students, Chris Paolo,

00:45:08.560 --> 00:45:10.540 align:middle line:84%
was partly
responsible for this--

00:45:10.540 --> 00:45:14.020 align:middle line:84%
the idea that the bed
isn't perfectly planar.

00:45:14.020 --> 00:45:16.460 align:middle line:84%
There's very low
amplitude, very long

00:45:16.460 --> 00:45:21.300 align:middle line:84%
spacing features that move
along the plane bed surface

00:45:21.300 --> 00:45:23.060 align:middle line:90%
in the upper plane bed regime.

00:45:23.060 --> 00:45:25.540 align:middle line:84%
And this is what makes
the laminae as they go by,

00:45:25.540 --> 00:45:27.860 align:middle line:84%
little laminae, about a
centimeter, about a couple

00:45:27.860 --> 00:45:30.100 align:middle line:90%
of millimeters thick.

00:45:30.100 --> 00:45:34.020 align:middle line:90%
I can believe it.

00:45:34.020 --> 00:45:37.460 align:middle line:84%
Now, I don't need to tell you
this, difference in grain size

00:45:37.460 --> 00:45:38.360 align:middle line:90%
within a lamina.

00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.980 align:middle line:90%
That's how you see them.

00:45:40.980 --> 00:45:42.480 align:middle line:84%
Now, here's an
interesting question.

00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.680 align:middle line:84%
I've tried to do this in
the field, next time you're

00:45:44.680 --> 00:45:46.860 align:middle line:84%
in the field and looking
at plane planar lamination.

00:45:46.860 --> 00:45:48.520 align:middle line:84%
How far can you trace
a given laminate

00:45:48.520 --> 00:45:52.400 align:middle line:84%
before it disappears, replaced
by another, changes in some way?

00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:56.680 align:middle line:84%
And typically, it's something
like from well less than a meter

00:45:56.680 --> 00:46:00.720 align:middle line:84%
to as much as a few meters, if
you have a nice enough outcrop.

00:46:00.720 --> 00:46:04.440 align:middle line:90%
It's nice to play around with.

00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:07.440 align:middle line:84%
Now, there's something called
parting-step lineation.

00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.600 align:middle line:84%
You may have heard of
parting-step lineation.

00:46:09.600 --> 00:46:15.040 align:middle line:84%
So you have a lithified
plane-bedded succession.

00:46:15.040 --> 00:46:17.820 align:middle line:84%
And when it's brings up to
the surface, it's weathered.

00:46:17.820 --> 00:46:18.680 align:middle line:90%
It splits.

00:46:18.680 --> 00:46:21.300 align:middle line:84%
It often splits
along bedding planes,

00:46:21.300 --> 00:46:24.680 align:middle line:84%
bedding surfaces that happen
to be-- during plane bed--

00:46:24.680 --> 00:46:28.200 align:middle line:84%
that are weaker
than the surrounding

00:46:28.200 --> 00:46:30.320 align:middle line:90%
strata above and below it.

00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.720 align:middle line:90%
And the nice thing about it--

00:46:35.720 --> 00:46:41.920 align:middle line:84%
this is from the sidewalk going
to a tea plantation in Sochi.

00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:46.850 align:middle line:84%
And you can see because of
the orientation of the grains

00:46:46.850 --> 00:46:49.470 align:middle line:84%
as they're being transported
under plane bed conditions,

00:46:49.470 --> 00:46:50.990 align:middle line:90%
produce an anisotropy.

00:46:50.990 --> 00:46:54.510 align:middle line:84%
And then when it parts
along a bedding surface,

00:46:54.510 --> 00:46:58.050 align:middle line:84%
that anisotropy shows up
as these parting steps.

00:46:58.050 --> 00:46:59.678 align:middle line:90%
It's pretty understandable.

00:46:59.678 --> 00:47:00.470 align:middle line:90%
Here's another one.

00:47:00.470 --> 00:47:01.928 align:middle line:84%
I can't remember
where that's from.

00:47:01.928 --> 00:47:04.890 align:middle line:90%


00:47:04.890 --> 00:47:10.270 align:middle line:84%
So that's all I'm going to
say about parting lineation.

00:47:10.270 --> 00:47:15.410 align:middle line:84%
But now we get into another
major part of the presentation.

00:47:15.410 --> 00:47:17.370 align:middle line:84%
How do you interpret
the flow conditions

00:47:17.370 --> 00:47:20.330 align:middle line:84%
by looking at the
cross-stratified bed?

00:47:20.330 --> 00:47:22.890 align:middle line:84%
That's a major
undertaking, and I need

00:47:22.890 --> 00:47:25.530 align:middle line:90%
to make some comments about it.

00:47:25.530 --> 00:47:26.730 align:middle line:90%
There's a forward problem.

00:47:26.730 --> 00:47:28.510 align:middle line:84%
You know about forward problems
and inverse problems, right?

00:47:28.510 --> 00:47:30.990 align:middle line:84%
The forward problem is
you have a flowover bed.

00:47:30.990 --> 00:47:32.650 align:middle line:90%
It forms bed configurations.

00:47:32.650 --> 00:47:35.490 align:middle line:84%
During aggradation, sedimentary
structures are formed,

00:47:35.490 --> 00:47:36.910 align:middle line:90%
and you get stratification.

00:47:36.910 --> 00:47:39.970 align:middle line:84%
But the inverse
problem is trickier.

00:47:39.970 --> 00:47:41.488 align:middle line:84%
You see the
stratification, and you

00:47:41.488 --> 00:47:43.530 align:middle line:84%
try to figure out what
the bed configuration was.

00:47:43.530 --> 00:47:45.030 align:middle line:84%
And then from the
bed configuration,

00:47:45.030 --> 00:47:47.070 align:middle line:84%
you want to know
plus aggregation,

00:47:47.070 --> 00:47:48.430 align:middle line:90%
what was the flow like?

00:47:48.430 --> 00:47:50.182 align:middle line:84%
That's what you
want to back out.

00:47:50.182 --> 00:47:52.390 align:middle line:84%
That's the whole purpose of
doing this kind of thing,

00:47:52.390 --> 00:47:54.590 align:middle line:84%
is make interpretations
like that.

00:47:54.590 --> 00:47:56.270 align:middle line:90%
And it's not easy.

00:47:56.270 --> 00:47:57.030 align:middle line:90%
Why?

00:47:57.030 --> 00:47:59.510 align:middle line:84%
It can be difficult
or impossible

00:47:59.510 --> 00:48:02.510 align:middle line:90%
because there's local erosion.

00:48:02.510 --> 00:48:04.730 align:middle line:90%
Time gets unrecorded.

00:48:04.730 --> 00:48:08.530 align:middle line:84%
And so local deposit geometry,
which existed at one time,

00:48:08.530 --> 00:48:09.530 align:middle line:90%
isn't there anymore.

00:48:09.530 --> 00:48:13.790 align:middle line:84%
So that's a universal problem
that we have to deal with.

00:48:13.790 --> 00:48:16.230 align:middle line:84%
Anyway, here are
a few more thought

00:48:16.230 --> 00:48:18.830 align:middle line:90%
experiments coming along.

00:48:18.830 --> 00:48:23.030 align:middle line:84%
I got to quit in a few minutes,
but let me just go through this.

00:48:23.030 --> 00:48:24.250 align:middle line:90%
How could you do this?

00:48:24.250 --> 00:48:28.530 align:middle line:84%
You could set up a flow over the
bed to make a bed configuration.

00:48:28.530 --> 00:48:30.670 align:middle line:84%
And that's been done
many, many times.

00:48:30.670 --> 00:48:33.930 align:middle line:84%
You can add sediment above,
at a constant or varying rate,

00:48:33.930 --> 00:48:36.490 align:middle line:84%
while flow velocity is
either constant or varying,

00:48:36.490 --> 00:48:40.360 align:middle line:84%
and you degrade a bed
under varying conditions.

00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:43.305 align:middle line:84%
And then you can section
the deposit vertically

00:48:43.305 --> 00:48:45.680 align:middle line:84%
downstream, cross-stream
orientation, parallel to the bed

00:48:45.680 --> 00:48:47.440 align:middle line:84%
if you wanted to,
and you can see

00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.120 align:middle line:90%
what the structures look like.

00:48:49.120 --> 00:48:52.600 align:middle line:84%
But if this was made by
differential transport,

00:48:52.600 --> 00:48:54.580 align:middle line:84%
it might be difficult
to figure this out.

00:48:54.580 --> 00:48:57.040 align:middle line:84%
But anyway, that's the kind
of thinking you have to do.

00:48:57.040 --> 00:48:58.680 align:middle line:84%
So another thing you
could do is what's

00:48:58.680 --> 00:49:00.940 align:middle line:90%
called synthetic aggregation.

00:49:00.940 --> 00:49:02.880 align:middle line:84%
We've done some of
this in the laboratory.

00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.360 align:middle line:84%
You set up a flow and
make a bed configuration.

00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.800 align:middle line:84%
Then you make time-series
maps of the bed,

00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:14.920 align:middle line:84%
and you artificially
aggrade them in time steps,

00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:17.760 align:middle line:84%
and you end up with a
cross-stratified deposit.

00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:20.520 align:middle line:84%
And it does pretty
much mimic what

00:49:20.520 --> 00:49:22.920 align:middle line:84%
would happen if you
actually degraded

00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.080 align:middle line:84%
the bed, which of course,
is very difficult.

00:49:26.080 --> 00:49:28.000 align:middle line:84%
I guess you could
stack them by computer.

00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.720 align:middle line:84%
This is fairly easy in the
sidewall, transparent sidewall,

00:49:31.720 --> 00:49:32.660 align:middle line:90%
of a channel.

00:49:32.660 --> 00:49:35.060 align:middle line:84%
But it's not easy if you're
looking at a whole area.

00:49:35.060 --> 00:49:35.893 align:middle line:90%
How would you do it?

00:49:35.893 --> 00:49:38.650 align:middle line:84%
You'd have to do a sonar
profile, sonar profile, sonar

00:49:38.650 --> 00:49:40.210 align:middle line:90%
profile, and then stack them up.

00:49:40.210 --> 00:49:41.210 align:middle line:90%
It could be done.

00:49:41.210 --> 00:49:43.670 align:middle line:84%
And I don't know how
much it's been done.

00:49:43.670 --> 00:49:46.370 align:middle line:90%
We did some of it.

00:49:46.370 --> 00:49:48.490 align:middle line:84%
In the natural flow
environment, the obvious thing

00:49:48.490 --> 00:49:51.450 align:middle line:84%
is to go out to some
station out offshore,

00:49:51.450 --> 00:49:53.730 align:middle line:84%
in the shallow offshore,
and instrument it

00:49:53.730 --> 00:49:56.550 align:middle line:84%
with some of permanent
tripod structure,

00:49:56.550 --> 00:50:01.010 align:middle line:84%
looking down at the bed,
and also measuring the flow.

00:50:01.010 --> 00:50:03.030 align:middle line:84%
And there have been
some good studies.

00:50:03.030 --> 00:50:05.490 align:middle line:84%
But that's really
difficult because it

00:50:05.490 --> 00:50:07.230 align:middle line:90%
has to resist big storms.

00:50:07.230 --> 00:50:09.690 align:middle line:84%
And there are all kinds
of technological problems

00:50:09.690 --> 00:50:11.067 align:middle line:90%
in actually making it work.

00:50:11.067 --> 00:50:12.150 align:middle line:90%
But there is some of that.

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And that's very valuable to do.

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So I think that's a
good place to quit.

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It's after 4:00.

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I'm going to point out that
facies models-- you probably

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know about facies models,
models for interpreting

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sedimentary environments.

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This is a nice
statement, well worded

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in the introduction of the SEPM
Special Publication 84 in 2005.

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A model is a point
of comparison,

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a guide for further
observations,

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serves as a base for
hydrodynamic interpretation,

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and it acts as a predictor, a
predictor for new situations.

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That's really valuable
to be able to do.

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And what we're dealing
with here is a kind

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of a subset of facies models.

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And that's depositional models.

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Look at a particular
bed in a given facies.

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What can you back
out of that bed

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in terms of making
interpretations of flow

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conditions and sedimentation?

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And I think that that's
all I'm going to deal with.

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Next time, I'm going to start
in with cross-stratification,

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which is really the main
thing in this presentation.

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And so that'll be
two weeks from now,

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remember, two weeks,
same time, same place.

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And I'll finish up
the presentation

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talking about
cross-stratification

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in various kinds of
flow environments

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with lots of pictures.

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See you then.

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